[01:22] <rsalveti> morphis: I'll try writing something up for you tomorrow, but it's all done by the pulseaudio module (once the bt side is connected, there is a property that gets set that enables the data to flow at the audio hal)
[03:37] <imnichol> Sorry if this is has an easy answer, but I've been googling for a bit and haven't found one:  can I buy any Nexus 4 and install Ubuntu on it, or do I have to find a particular version of the N4?
[03:38] <RAOF> Any nexus 4.
[03:39] <ljp> works well on nexus 4. thats what I have
[03:39] <ljp> k
[03:40] <imnichol> Hm awesome.  Like, for example, this one? http://www.amazon.com/LG-Google-Nexus-Unlocked-Phone/dp/B00A9ZER46/ref=sr_1_3?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1443497990&sr=1-3&keywords=nexus+4
[03:41] <imnichol> Not to disbelieve or anything, I'm just surprised that there isn't a catch somewhere ;)
[03:44] <ljp> no catch. I bought a used one off ebay. works just dandy
[04:40] <you_c_this> would there be a safe way to install & setup a NFS share on the Ubuntu phone?
[04:57] <morphis> rsalveti: that would be great!
[06:54] <dholbach> good morning
[06:54] <tathhu> äääääääääääää
[06:54] <tathhu> omg
[06:54] <tathhu> :D
[08:23] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy World Heart Day! 😃  <3
[08:55] <abeato> xavigarcia, ping
[08:57] <xavigarcia> abeato pong
[08:57] <abeato> xavigarcia, hey, question about mpris controls: are they supposed to be enabled when there is no track list? Currently they are after exiting music-app, and play the last played track, with no possibility of changing the track. Does the indicator track CanPlay to enable/disable the controls?
[08:58] <abeato> xavigarcia, in other words, would it make sense to have CanPlay=false when there is no track list?
[08:59] <xavigarcia> abeato: hey, I think you didn't receive my answer :/
[08:59] <xavigarcia> abeato: the sound indicator only does what it gets from MPRIS
[08:59] <abeato> xavigarcia, nop, I did not... :-/
[08:59] <xavigarcia> abeato: so if MPRS returns true it sets the buttons to true
[09:00] <xavigarcia> abeato: I don't know what should we do if there's no playlist
[09:00] <xavigarcia> abeato: should the indicator look if there's a playlist active?
[09:01] <xavigarcia> abeato: to be honest... I don't have an answer to that
[09:01] <xavigarcia> abeato: is this preventing silo 55's landing?
[09:01] <abeato> xavigarcia, well, I guess that tracking "CanPlay" should be enough
[09:01] <abeato> xavigarcia, no
[09:02] <abeato> xavigarcia, I guess it is more a question for design
[09:02] <xavigarcia> abeato: another thing is that the play button (at least on the desktop) executes the player
[09:02] <xavigarcia> abeato: yeah, I guess so
[09:03] <abeato> xavigarcia, hmm, probably it would make sense to do the same in the phone
[09:03] <xavigarcia> abeato: anyway... i think we should confirm with design
[09:03] <abeato> xavigarcia, indeed, who do you discuss this with there?
[09:04] <xavigarcia> abeato: I'm waiting for a new spec updated to reflect some aspects for bluetooth headset
[09:04] <xavigarcia> abeato: not sure if it will also update the player controls or not
[09:04] <xavigarcia> abeato: normally I contact mpt
[09:04] <mpt> o/
[09:05] <abeato> xavigarcia, maybe it would be good to start a discussion about this
[09:05] <abeato> hey mpt ;)
[09:05] <xavigarcia> abeato: sure
[09:05] <abeato> mpt, so we were discussing what the indicator-sound should do when there is no track list
[09:06] <abeato> just be disabled? start music-app?
[09:06] <nhaines> I vote for dump core and corrupt the user partition.
[09:06] <abeato> also, does it make sense that we reset the play list when music-app exits?
[09:06] <abeato> +1 :p
[09:07] <abeato> now that we have background playlists maybe we should not remove the tracks when music-app exits and let indicator-sound control the active list
[09:19] <tathhu> it should definetly install gentoo
[10:57] <NwS> Heya guys, now that Meizu is sold out will they bring a new one soon?
[10:58] <k1l_> imho they are going to re-stock them
[10:58] <NwS> k1l_, any ideas when mate?
[10:58] <NwS> I wanted to grab one -.-" Or maybe a newer model if they make one soon
[10:59] <k1l_> well no. but it was the same with bq. they dont want to make too much devices so they get to sit on thousands if they dont sell well.
[10:59] <k1l_> you could try to ask meizu support/social PR team if they can tell about that
[12:01] <mpt> abeato, obviously not be disabled, because it also includes the volume control
[12:01] <mpt> abeato, if you mean the playback controls specifically, the spec says, abeato, the spec says, “The menu should always show exactly only one set of playback controls, for the player that was playing most recently.”
[12:04] <mpt> (sorry for the unintentional repetition there)
[12:07] <ogra_> pmcgowan, can you please put bug 1393515 on your radar ?
[12:07] <ubot5`> bug 1393515 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu RTM) "browser allows browsing the phone filesystem" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1393515
[12:08] <ogra_> (critical and ignored since 10 months )
[12:09] <pmcgowan> oh my
[12:10]  * ogra_ guesses having the browser check for a "file://" url would be a matter of a few lines for someone familiar with the code like oSoMoN as a quick hack
[12:10] <ogra_> until an actual fix is in place
[12:14] <pmcgowan> ogra_, yeah given you need to unlock the phone and hand it to someone its not the worst, still surprised it sat so long
[12:17] <ogra_> pmcgowan, well, even if i hand the unlocked phone to someone, this person cant read passwords with the filemanager or terminal app because both ask for a PIN first ... the browser doesnt ...
[12:17] <pmcgowan> yep I get that
[12:17] <ogra_> and we can not really make sure that apps from the store actually handle passowrds in a safe manner on disk
[12:18] <JanC> not to mention lots of people don't ever lock their phone  :)
[12:18] <ogra_> well, if there is no PIN at all then filemanager and terminal are open too
[12:18] <ogra_> thats the users fault
[12:18] <ogra_> but if there is one set we should at least be minimally safe
[12:19] <pmcgowan> ogra_, it seems we can fix the confinement without too much work, jamie outlined it and tested it
[12:19] <ogra_> ok
[12:19] <ogra_> fine with me too
[12:19] <JanC> ogra_: thinking about that, are there any checks on third party apps for that sort of things?
[12:20]  * ogra_ is only worried because it started making its way into the press 
[12:20] <JanC> like third party browsers etc.
[12:20] <ogra_> JanC, nope, not at all ...
[12:20] <ogra_> but they are confined ... apps cant see any other apps content or config
[12:20] <ogra_> with the exception of terminal, filemanager and browser
[12:21] <ogra_> a third party browser from the store can only operate under confinement
[12:21] <ogra_> else it wouldnt be in the store
[12:21] <JanC> right
[12:31] <JanC> I checked one (Liri), and it doesn't recognize "file:" at all (not sure if "file:" makes much sense on a phone browser anyway, especially when confined...)
[12:31] <ogra_> yeah
[12:32] <ogra_> it makes sense to allow it in desktop mode
[12:34] <oSoMoN> ogra_, you won’t be minimally safe if the terminal or file manager is already running though
[12:34] <ogra_> true true
[12:35] <oSoMoN> ogra_, I’ll look into intercepting file:// requests as a temp workaround, but the real fix is to confine the browser, I hope I can work on that soon
[12:35] <ogra_> yeah, no doubt about the real fix here
[12:36] <pmcgowan> oSoMoN, I just targeted both, if you can do actual confinement thats best obviously
[12:36] <ogra_> only abbout the timeline :)
[12:36] <oSoMoN> pmcgowan, not for ota7, but would be good to have for ota8
[12:36] <pmcgowan> oSoMoN, seems jamie had it worked out, but browser also needs to become a click?
[12:36] <oSoMoN> pmcgowan, no, I don’t think it does
[12:37] <pmcgowan> ok
[12:37] <oSoMoN> pmcgowan, jdstrand came up with a base apparmor profile, but it needs to be extensively tested, and probably tweaked
[12:38] <pmcgowan> oSoMoN, ack
[14:30] <mz97> while compiling ubuntu touch for acer s500 (soc msm8960) it stops: this is the error ----- Making recovery image ------ usage: mkbootimg        --kernel <filename>        --ramdisk <filename>        [ --second <2ndbootloader-filename> ]        [ --cmdline <kernel-commandline> ]        [ --board <boardname> ]        [ --base <address> ]        [ --pagesize <pagesize> ]        [ --ramdisk_offset <address> ]        [ --dt <filename> 
[14:31] <mz97>  *** [/media/marco/Develop/Android/UbuntuTouch/phablet/out/target/product/swing/recovery.img] Errore 1
[14:31] <mz97> someone can help me?
[14:31] <marcoceppi> mz97: I'm only here because /media/marco triggered my notification ;)
[14:31] <marcoceppi> wish I could help
[14:32] <popey> phablet triggered mine :)
[14:38]  * guest42315 ubuntuonair in 20 min http://ubuntuonair.com/
[14:58] <tathhu> popey :-D
[15:11] <morphis> rsalveti: thanks for the writeup!
[15:12] <rsalveti> morphis: awe_: just sent an email giving a bit more details about HFP
[15:12] <rsalveti> and how that is currently done
[15:12] <rsalveti> let me know if you need more info
[15:12] <awe_> thanks rsalveti!
[15:12] <morphis> rsalveti: if I understand that correctly, all we have to do to enable the audio flow is setting the right ports on the droid card?
[15:14] <morphis> rsalveti: so that the sco.fake source/sink are just there to keep the SCO link up to the remote which is now completely on ofono?
[15:37] <pmcgowan> sil2100, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart-watchdog/+bug/1498133
[15:37] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1498133 in Canonical System Image "Watchdog is too aggressive, can lead to unusable device" [Critical,Confirmed]
[15:38] <ogra_> just install muzzle_1.0.click
[15:50] <Wh0re> Hi there! Where can i find release plan?
[15:51] <ogra_> Wh0re, release plan is: "every 6 weeks"
[15:53] <Wh0re> ogra_, thanks. Thank to all of you.
[15:53] <ogra_> :)
[15:55] <ogra_> if you want to know what is targeted for a specific release you can check https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image ... at the bottom of the right menu there are the milestones (work week 40 (ww40-2015) and work week 46 currently)
[16:03] <TonyBoston> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12612646/
[16:03] <TonyBoston> could anyone have a look at this?
[16:03] <TonyBoston> not sure if I should file a bug report
[16:03] <ogra_> what exactly ?
[16:03] <ogra_> (nothing unusual in there)
[16:03] <TonyBoston> what about the recurring error?
[16:03] <ogra_> the libust noise is "normal"
[16:04] <TonyBoston> ahh okay
[16:04] <TonyBoston> just wondering
[16:04] <ogra_> its a bug and is reported, but not actually doing any harm
[16:04] <ogra_> tedg, when will that ever get fixed ?
[16:04] <ogra_> :)
[16:05] <tedg> ogra_: I already fixed mine, now waiting on the qtubuntu folks to fix theirs
[16:05] <TonyBoston> would be cool if one could report bugs right from the touch
[16:05] <ogra_> yup, it would
[16:06] <TonyBoston> the log app helps a lot now though
[16:08] <dobey> i guess launchpad should work in the browser, but maybe not very touchscreen friendly
[16:48] <nocomp> hi folks
[16:48] <nocomp> i need a tip
[16:48] <nocomp> how do i reverse my mx4 from rc-proposed to rc ?
[16:48] <nocomp> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel ubuntu-touch/rc/meizu.en
[16:48] <nocomp>  ?
[16:53] <ogra_> nocomp, why would you want rc ?
[16:53] <nocomp> i am selling it
[16:53] <nocomp> the guy don t want rc-proposed
[16:53] <ogra_> thats a staging channel for the QA team to do tests in
[16:53] <ogra_> you rather want stable then
[16:53] <ogra_> not rc
[16:53] <nocomp> yes
[16:54] <nocomp> ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
[16:54] <ogra_> right
[16:54] <nocomp> flashing it atm
[16:54] <nocomp> thxxx
[17:03] <dobey> nocomp: if you're reflashing it to sell, you probably want to use --wipe or do it from fastboot with --bootstrap
[17:03] <dobey> you'll also need to use the correct recovery to flash a retail ubuntu phone
[17:07] <nocomp> doanac,
[17:07] <nocomp> dobey,  can you pls give me the proper way?
[17:08] <dobey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working_with_ubuntu-device-flash
[17:10] <nocomp> thxxx
[17:10] <ogra_> for how much did you sell it ?
[17:11] <nocomp> 250 eur
[17:11] <ogra_> not bad
[17:11] <nocomp> yep
[17:11] <nocomp> damm
[17:11] <nocomp> doesn t work
[17:11] <nocomp> i go prepare dinner
[17:11] <nocomp> i ll check after
[17:52] <tathhu> rememeber right recover Y:P