[01:00] <diddledan> dum de dum
[01:06] <daftykins> dee-da-dee
[01:06] <diddledan> doo be doo
[01:46] <diddledan> so apparently happy birthday isn't copyright to the guys who thought it was
[01:47] <daftykins> indeed!
[01:47] <daftykins> they've got egg on their faces now
[01:47] <daftykins> demanding moneys from folk who didn't need to pay
[01:47] <diddledan> they should have to repay with interest
[01:48] <daftykins> :D
[01:52] <diddledan> google are doing stuff later today
[01:52] <diddledan> DO ALL THE THINGS!
[01:53] <daftykins> oh yeah 29th
[01:53] <daftykins> LG 5x looks alright
[02:06] <diddledan> why do I always read "buffering" with Gs instead of Fs?
[02:06] <diddledan> it seems to me to be more apt I guess
[02:09] <daftykins> they could be s's like ye olde english
[02:09] <daftykins> :D
[02:16] <diddledan> ye sucker
[02:16] <diddledan> something like that
[02:16] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJpoOlCbBrw
[02:17] <diddledan> Alice Tinker: [on TV show] The lesson is taken from the sixth chapter of the Song of Solomon, beginning at the second verse.
[02:17] <diddledan> Alice Tinker: [reading from the newly presented Bible] Ye are the fault of the earth and fainted... sainted. God shall feel... seal your endeavours until ye fit on his right hand. Therefore fight the good fight, for his... fake, and he shall be thy fu...
[02:17] <diddledan> Geraldine Granger: *Succour!* He shall be thy succour.
[02:17] <diddledan> there ya go
[02:19] <daftykins> o0
[02:19] <daftykins> did you read about them finding top secret docs plugging the holes in one of the buildings up at Bletchley? :D
[02:19] <diddledan> no?
[02:21] <daftykins> pretty funny :) turned out all the actual docs were being pushed up to insulate the place as they worked
[02:31] <diddledan> hmm, my lumia just rebooted and is applying an update
[02:31] <diddledan> (it's a cheapo just to see what winphone is like :-p)
[02:32] <daftykins> :D
[02:33] <diddledan> no idea what it's installing, 'cos apparently there's no new builds today
[02:33] <diddledan> (it's enrolled in the insider track)
[02:50] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/jimchines/status/648290101550841856
[07:38] <diplo> Morning all
[08:00] <Moodoo> morning diplo
[08:18] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:19] <Moodoo> morning
[08:23] <zmoylan-pi> and todays fact is...
[08:23] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy World Heart Day! 😃  <3
[08:23]  * JamesTait hugs zmoylan-pi 
[08:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlR0KElxxVg
[08:33] <JamesTait> Oh all right then.
[08:33]  * JamesTait hugs davmor2 as well
[08:34] <davmor2> JamesTait: hugs all round \o/
[08:35]  * zmoylan-pi dresses a hungry bear as a linux geek... :-)
[08:39]  * davmor2 give the bear a jar of honey and hugs him quick, notes zmoylan-pi is next in queue, snatches the honey and throws it to zmoylan-pi and points mouth opened in amazment that someone would snatch the bears honey
[08:41]  * zmoylan-pi catches the honey, unscrews the cap and dumps contents on davmor2 
[08:42] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: it's a winnie the pooh style jar of honey there is no lid :P  and uh oh you're in trouble, better watch out, better make it double :)
[08:43]  * zmoylan-pi then activates the jet powered rocket pants and junior birdmans the hell out of here...
[08:45] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:45] <JamesTait> Hi czajkowski! 👋
[08:50] <davmor2> czajkowski: hello
[08:54] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:54] <czajkowski> how are we all doing today ?
[08:55]  * zmoylan-pi realises that i didn't check easons for latest linux voice mag yesterday and plans walk to dun laoire to get a copy...
[08:55] <czajkowski> bit of a walk
[08:56] <zmoylan-pi> from killiney yes, will be sore when i get home.
[09:04] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: killiney isn't that what they did on south park every week?
[09:07] <czajkowski> davmor2: no kilkenny :)
[09:08] <davmor2> ah I was close :)
[09:27] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:28] <Moodoo> moaning bigcalm
[10:30] <zmoylan-pi> and people could learn from the design of the most awesome ui ever :-) https://twitter.com/cabel/status/648680009381511168
[10:55] <bigcalm> Wow
[10:56] <zmoylan-pi> i know, right? ;-)
[10:57] <directhex> time for canonical to throw unity out again, clearly the new UI paradigm lies before us
[10:58] <zmoylan-pi> now that ui should be called unity as it jams every option onto 1 form :-)
[14:31] <diddledan> dear lord that ui is evil (from zmoylan-pi earlier)
[14:35] <diddledan> lol @ the google doodle of mars
[14:35] <diddledan> that's cute
[15:35] <diddledan> google announcement in 25 minutes?
[15:36] <TwistedLucidity> I AM GOOGLE, I NO LONGER HAVE NEED FOR YOU FRAGILE MEATSACKS. BE GONE.
[15:36] <diddledan> google = skynet?
[15:36] <TwistedLucidity> I doubt Skynet was that evil.
[15:36] <diddledan> I think the military should use google for nukes
[15:37] <diddledan> "ok google. nuke iran"
[15:37] <brobostigon> lol.
[15:37] <TwistedLucidity> This missile sponsored by....
[15:37] <brobostigon> apple
[15:37] <diddledan> and google now will pop up helpful hints like "would you like to nuke russia?"
[15:38] <brobostigon> :)
[15:38] <Myrtti> apparently the phones won't have Qi on them
[15:38] <diddledan> :-(
[15:38] <TwistedLucidity> Self driving cars mayhaps? I'd love one. I hate driving. Especially with all the moron who don't KEEP ****ING LEFT!
[15:38] <Myrtti> I'm mightily disappointed
[15:39] <diddledan> I want a self-driving car, too
[15:39] <brobostigon> my nexus 4 from 3 years ago had/has qi charging. so that would be strange.
[15:39] <diddledan> that way I won't have to finally finish learning to drive
[15:39] <TwistedLucidity> Self driving cars with gattling guns. I can watch it annihilate all the middle-lane hoggers.....
[15:39] <diddledan> "ok google. parp him!"
[15:39] <brobostigon> isnt that a drone?
[15:40] <diddledan> self-driving drones would be a good idea - especially if you can offload targetting too
[15:41] <TwistedLucidity> I need an LED sign on the front of the car that say "GET LEFT, MORON >>>" (in mirror writing, obviously)
[15:41] <diddledan> "a drone attacked moscow. a software fault is blamed"
[15:42] <TwistedLucidity> "A drone attacked Mo's cow. A software fault is blamed"
[15:42] <diddledan> poor cow
[15:42] <zmoylan-pi> and a i am ronnie pickering sign too :-)
[15:45] <ali12341> guys i have an extremely important question
[15:45] <ali12341> what was the thing in the intro to picture box anyway? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVTsnSg-MS4
[15:45] <zmoylan-pi> down the corridor to the left :-)
[15:47] <TwistedLucidity> ali12341: A display case for jewels, trinkets or other high-value knick-knacks?
[15:48] <TwistedLucidity> Oh man, the memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acOnskcyrtA
[15:48] <ali12341> possibly, i'm looking for a more detailed answer, like you'd get on antiques roadshow :)
[15:50] <zmoylan-pi> probably just a portable display case for a religious relic
[15:52] <TwistedLucidity> Well, it's quite clearly a 1835 boite de art, probably made by Crumbleson and Co of Nantwich based on the design. However the class has been placed at some point in the past; probably to try and keep with the fashions. Of no intrinsic value, but of great sentimental worth I'm sure.
[15:53] <zmoylan-pi> phew, i just use it to store these funny eggs my great aunt got in russia...
[15:54] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi, those silly faberge?
[15:54] <zmoylan-pi> sounds right, keeps the cat amused i can tell you
[15:57] <ali12341> seems like you're right anwyay
[15:57] <diddledan> google is streaming here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc-LEG0T_4c
[15:58] <ali12341> "glass jewelry casket" on google images brings up many similar objects
[15:59] <zmoylan-pi> i've seen the like in dublin city centre churches that have relics
[15:59] <diddledan> 17k people watching a white screen
[15:59] <zmoylan-pi> there was a time when the relics were paraded, easter, christmas etc.
[15:59] <zmoylan-pi> it's a smart screen, it's watching back
[15:59] <diddledan> 25k
[16:00] <diddledan> 33
[16:01] <diddledan> video is now dead
[16:02] <diddledan> \o/
[16:02] <diddledan> livestreams ftw
[16:02] <zmoylan-pi> shouldva used facetime
[16:04] <TwistedLucidity> Only 56k watching? That's not many....
[16:05] <diddledan> they should have killed the right-side chat stream - I think that's what's killing my browser
[16:06] <diddledan> aah there's a "hide chat" button /me clicks that hoping that it improves things
[16:06] <TwistedLucidity> Blocked it/Greasemonkey it away/Hack the HTML
[16:08] <TwistedLucidity> C'mon man, get to the point!
[16:09] <TwistedLucidity> OK, a phone. Bored now.
[16:09] <diddledan> lol
[16:10] <TwistedLucidity> G'night all, doggies need their walkies.
[16:13] <popey> he has an odd accent
[16:13] <popey> irish american?
[16:13] <diddledan> no idea. I suck at discerning accents :-)
[16:14] <popey> haha, making excuses why it doesn't have OIS
[16:14] <diddledan> OIS?
[16:15] <popey> Optical Image Stabilisation
[16:15] <diddledan> aah
[16:15] <popey> which works really well on iOS
[16:15] <diddledan> yeah
[16:15] <zmoylan-pi> isn't that your knees? :-)
[16:15] <Myrtti> please tell it has Qi
[16:15] <Myrtti> pppplllleeease
[16:16] <popey> 4k "at normal rate"
[16:16] <popey> bet that means 30fps, not 60
[16:16] <diddledan> bah
[16:16] <diddledan> you're ahead of me
[16:17] <popey> i like that double tap power = camera
[16:17] <popey> thats something sony get right
[16:18] <zmoylan-pi> i think my favourite phone camera was the nokia n70.  had a sliding cover that protected the lens, and when you slid it open it fired up the app...
[16:18] <ali12341> so when r u going to port ubuntu touch to these?
[16:18] <popey> hehe
[16:18] <popey> good question!
[16:18] <Myrtti> N95 ♥
[16:18] <popey> we don't support 64-bit yet, or L, let alone M
[16:19] <davmor2> ali12341: when you buy them for him to port them
[16:19] <ali12341> zmoylan-pi: the N900 had that too, and also a pretty good camera for the time
[16:20] <ali12341> unfortunately it had a terrible LED flash
[16:20] <popey> yeah, my N82 had that open = camera
[16:20] <popey> loved that phone
[16:21] <zmoylan-pi> i could take phone out and fire up the app without looking at it, perfect
[16:21] <popey> yeah
[16:21] <zmoylan-pi> now, it's take out phone, unlock, find app, start app, moment has passed...
[16:22] <ali12341> or just press the camera icon on the lock screen?
[16:23] <zmoylan-pi> still means looking away from what you want to take pic of
[16:25] <popey> so when does 6.0 drop?
[16:27] <Myrtti> and will it drop on Nexus5's
[16:27] <Myrtti> historical pattern would say no
[16:27] <Myrtti> next week and yes
[16:27] <popey> heh
[16:27] <ahayzen> 'doze mode' hah :-)
[16:27] <Azelphur> has the event started yet for the Nexuses?
[16:28] <popey> so not nexus 4
[16:28] <Myrtti> Azelphur: yes?
[16:28] <Azelphur> oO
[16:31] <ali12341> in summary: they made some new hones, they're a little bit better than the old phones
[16:31] <Azelphur> hehe
[16:39] <popey> I like how he is doing this demo with his phone in airplane mode
[16:39] <popey> does he have an ethernet device attached (odd icons in indicator area)
[16:39] <diddledan> haha
[16:39] <diddledan> that's clever
[16:40] <diddledan> aah yes that could be a wired network
[16:40] <diddledan> the <..> is sometimes used for wired
[16:40] <zmoylan-pi> it's a liquid metal terminator... panic.... \o/
[16:40] <diddledan> the tablet is wireless
[16:40] <zmoylan-pi> unpanic \o/
[16:40] <popey> over used phrases in presentations... "go ahead and"
[16:41] <diddledan> haha. demo gods!
[16:41] <popey> :)
[16:42] <diddledan> they didn't sacrifice any goats.
[16:42] <popey> "go ahead and" *drink*
[16:43] <diddledan> K-Rod?
[16:43] <zmoylan-pi> not a big demo, a 2 chicken sacrifice limit
[16:45] <diddledan> I'm waiting to hear what they're doing with the chromecast
[16:45] <popey> JIFF!
[16:45] <diddledan> popey, CIF
[16:45] <zmoylan-pi> that boat has cailed :-)
[16:45] <diddledan> and AJAX. and toilet-duck :-p
[16:47] <zmoylan-pi> and not war rocket ajax?
[16:51] <diddledan> I wonder why they felt the need to have colours on a product that is meant to hide behind the tv?
[16:51] <popey> my father in laws dangles out the side
[16:51] <popey> uh, the tv
[16:51] <diddledan> lol
[16:52] <zmoylan-pi> nice save... :slow handclap: :-P
[16:53] <popey> lemonade
[16:53] <popey> ITYM Yellow
[16:53] <diddledan> I'm not sure it's really lemonade
[16:53] <popey> That's no lemonade I've ever drunk
[16:54] <diddledan> luminous yellow/green
[16:54] <DJones> Melted snow
[16:54] <DJones> and as the eskimo's say, don't eat yellow snow
[16:55] <zmoylan-pi> with all those huskies they never mention brown snow...
[16:55] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi, otherwise known as fudge?
[16:55] <diddledan> yummy :-p
[16:55]  * zmoylan-pi makes note never to touch fudge offered by diddledan...
[16:55] <diddledan> lol
[16:56] <popey> "go ahead and" *drink*
[16:56] <popey> "go ahead and" *drink*
[16:56] <diddledan> popey, you're gonna get drunky monkey
[16:56] <diddledan> "lets talk about" is another one
[16:57] <popey> *drink*
[17:00] <diddledan> let's talk about
[17:03] <popey> *drink* etc
[17:04] <Azelphur> Do we have UK prices for the Nexus 5X/6P yet?
[17:04] <diddledan> go ahead and!
[17:04] <diddledan> they're really going for the gold medal
[17:04] <diddledan> Azelphur, not that I'm aware
[17:05] <DJones> Azelphur: If you buy it through my online shop (which I've still got to set up) it'll cost you £999.99, with free delivery, no contract necessary
[17:05] <Azelphur> lol
[17:05] <Azelphur> I'm hoping it ends up on Amazon so I can purse it
[17:06]  * DJones trys to comprehend a bloke saying "I can purse it" :)
[17:06] <DJones> Thats a badly named system
[17:07] <diddledan> I don't know what that means
[17:08] <DJones> diddledan: How many blokes do you know that would use the word "purse"?
[17:08] <Azelphur> diddledan: http://purse.io
[17:08] <diddledan> none. I mean I don't know what "purse it" means
[17:09] <diddledan> oic
[17:09] <diddledan> silly bitcoins
[17:09] <Myrtti> murse
[17:09] <DJones> Ah bitcoins, randomly generated ether monety
[17:10]  * Azelphur just sits here getting ~40% off all his Amazon purchases, laughs manically.
[17:11]  * DJones makes a note that Azelphur is Goldfinger but with a dog sat on his lap
[17:11] <Azelphur> :)
[17:13] <Myrtti> I just basically hate all the cryptocurrencies with a white hot rage
[17:13] <DJones> Azelphur: What breed is your dog? Looks huskie like from pictures
[17:13] <Azelphur> DJones: wat?
[17:14] <diddledan> I like that pixel c
[17:14] <DJones> Azelphur: Could be getting mixed up,I see so many dogs via twitter/facebook
[17:14] <Azelphur> DJones: probably, I was gonna say I don't have / never have had a dog
[17:14] <DJones> Ah, sorry, getting you mixed up with somebody else
[17:17] <DJones> Azelphur: Was getting you mixed up with knightwise
[17:17] <Azelphur> hehe
[17:18] <Azelphur> they need to hurry up and post them on the play store so I can see pricing :)
[17:18]  * DJones blames popey's (Whyte & McKay's) yellow lemonade
[17:18] <Myrtti> I seriously want to see it on store.google.com that the phones don't have Qi
[17:33] <Azelphur> Myrtti: no qi? :/
[17:42] <diddledan> store.google.com is updated
[17:44] <diddledan> yeah looks like no qi
[17:45] <Azelphur> wow, £579 vs $649
[17:45] <Azelphur> It's literally £150 cheaper in the US, that's insane
[17:45] <diddledan> yeah
[17:45] <Azelphur> (6P 128GB)
[17:46] <diddledan> at least they're not doing the apple pricing strategy where 599$ = 599£
[17:46] <zmoylan-pi> well that's what happens when you tax them with no representation...
[17:46] <Myrtti> no qi.
[17:46] <Azelphur> no qi is a letdown
[17:46] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[17:46] <zmoylan-pi> can you not add qi with a case?
[17:46] <Myrtti> Fairphone 2 looks appealing now
[17:47] <Myrtti> zmoylan-pi: and take the USB C out of the picture?
[17:49] <Azelphur> Yea, I think this may be it for me and Nexus devices. Might get a Sony Xperia Z5 premium
[17:49] <Azelphur> the price point is so ridiculous
[17:49] <diddledan> chromecast is 30£
[17:50] <Myrtti> finally with Spotify
[17:50] <Myrtti> we ordered 2 audios and 1 normal
[17:50] <Azelphur> http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7588&idPhone2=7536 Z5 premium will be pretty much the same price
[17:52] <Azelphur> I assume the US Nexus 6P won't work on UKs 4g bands
[17:52] <Myrtti> why wouldn't it?
[17:53] <Azelphur> Myrtti: no phone I've ever seen has 4G in both UK and US? My nexus 5 doesn't
[17:53] <Myrtti> I can't remember if I got 4G in California
[17:53] <Azelphur> I didn't, even with a friends sim.
[17:53] <Azelphur> We tested it, it don't work :)
[17:56] <Myrtti> I just used my Three sim
[17:56] <Myrtti> it was great
[17:56] <Azelphur> Myrtti: three feel at home won't give you 4g abroad, even if your phones hardware could do it.
[17:56] <Azelphur> Myrtti: I'm a bit of a globetrotter now days :)
[17:58] <popey> they specifically said the devices go on sale in US and UK at the same time and that they support 4g globally.
[17:58] <Azelphur> Oh, that's kinda cool
[17:59] <Azelphur> next time I go to US I could pick one up then, maybe that'd make it worthwhile
[18:00] <popey> Wonder when partners get AOSP 6
[18:02] <popey> so nexus 5 x from £339, 6p from £449
[18:02] <Azelphur> I mean, £428 is slightly more attractive (US price), but honestly it still doesn't stack up against other flagships price wise
[18:02] <popey> I can see why they broke out the gapps too, not only so you can uninstall them, but also so you don't instantly run out of space on day one
[18:04] <Azelphur> If Sony committed to getting Android 6 on the Z5 premium, which I imagine they will, I think that'll be my next phone
[18:04] <popey> directhex isn't having fun with his sony
[18:04] <Azelphur> oh?
[18:05] <popey> which other flagship would you look at?
[18:05] <Azelphur> the S6 is fairly comparable too, and far cheaper
[18:07] <Azelphur> I've been really on the fence about getting a Sony (I boycotted Sony for a long time), and the whole not being a Nexus thing, but I haven't really found anything to fault them yet, hardware wise they seem to just be strides ahead
[18:08]  * directhex is shipping his z3c off for repair
[18:17] <ali12341> the z3 compact is meant to be good
[18:17] <ali12341> if you want decent hardware without a stupidly big screen
[18:20] <daftykins> heh i see i can view the google play store for devices these days, but still not allowed to ship items to the Channel Islands
[18:20] <daftykins> thanks Google!
[18:25]  * zmoylan-pi wonders if i can get away with using nokia asha 302 as a hammer like i did with n70...
[18:38] <popey> Azelphur: yeah, I have a natural aversion to Samsung though
[18:38] <popey> Too cluttered with S junk
[18:38] <popey> I do like the look of the z3c
[18:38] <popey> wifey went for a 2nd hand iphone 5c in the end
[18:38] <popey> I bought one off ebay for 180 quid, went back 2 days later and it's now 280 quid. Hope they fulfill it :S
[18:45] <davmor2> popey: oh hudl finally gets an upgrade to lollipop now that marshmellow is being released :)
[18:48] <Azelphur> popey:  me too
[18:49] <popey> davmor2: it does!?
[18:49] <brobostigon> hudl2 i think, not the first.
[18:49] <popey> yeah, thats what I have
[18:49] <davmor2> brobostigon: that what we have :)
[18:49] <popey> aha, i see the update, but sam has drained it watching youtube videos. need to charge above 50% to get it
[18:49] <ali12341> i got one of these http://www.scan.co.uk/products/45-zte-4g-lte-blade-apex-2-smartphonelcd-screen-quad-core-12ghz-4gb-storage-4g-lte-wifi-bt4-android-
[18:49] <brobostigon> :)
[18:50] <davmor2> popey: hahaha
[18:50] <ali12341> you can't really go wrong for that price
[18:50] <popey> 404
[18:50] <popey> you have an extra 1 also today.
[18:50] <ali12341> link works for me
[18:51] <popey> odd
[18:51] <popey> works now
[18:51] <popey> thats quite a bezel
[18:51] <ali12341> yeah
[18:51] <ali12341> but it;s £50, what do you want?
[18:51] <daftykins> all the things!
[18:51] <popey> well indeed
[18:51] <ali12341> other than the rubbish screen it is roughly equivalent to a moto g
[18:55] <ali12341> has anyone ever tried ringing up, like, google, and saying "my fingerprints have been stolen, how do i change them?"
[18:56] <daftykins> i've tried calling them, that was an exercise in frustration to begin with
[18:56] <daftykins> it took until i said "you do realise you're ignoring everything i say?" to snap the rep out of their script
[18:56] <diddledan> can you even call google?
[18:56] <daftykins> yep!
[18:56] <diddledan> really?
[18:56] <daftykins> cue explaining the Channel Islands to someone from the south
[18:57] <daftykins> :>
[18:57] <diddledan> they don't make that very clear
[18:57] <popey> yeah i called them to get my phone fixed
[18:57] <popey> they were awful
[18:57] <popey> although it seems they're doing paid support now
[18:58] <popey> turns out that works out well for apple customers
[18:58] <daftykins> hmm, so like an applecare equivalent?
[18:58] <popey> yes
[18:58] <popey> for new nexus devices
[18:58] <daftykins> that could well be worth it
[19:04] <Barabossa> hello everyone
[19:05] <diddledan> hmm, bridge of spies looks like an interesting movie
[19:05] <daftykins> lo
[19:05] <diddledan> got tom hanks in it
[19:05] <daftykins> yay TH
[19:06] <diddledan> which means a reprisal of forest gump? :-p
[19:06] <ali12341> 2 forest 2 gump
[19:07] <popey> lulz
[19:10] <Barabossa> total noob here, came to learn about what kernel and foss and gnome and terminal mean
[19:10] <Barabossa> but forget about it, lets talk about forest gump :P
[19:11] <diddledan> hello Barabossa
[19:11] <Barabossa> hi :)
[19:11] <Barabossa> by the way, i live in Barcelona
[19:11] <Barabossa> am i still allowed in this group?
[19:11] <diddledan> sure
[19:11] <Barabossa> will move to london if needed
[19:11] <diddledan> lol
[19:11] <Barabossa> actually i'll move to london anyway
[19:11] <diddledan> no need to move :-)
[19:12] <Barabossa> (not kidding, next week)
[19:12] <Barabossa> have a new job, which is why i'm trying to learn a bit about linux
[19:12] <diddledan> yey
[19:12] <diddledan> well done - job is good
[19:12] <Barabossa> well in london its that or live under a bridge i think
[19:13] <diddledan> hehe
[19:13] <Barabossa> been searching, london bridge seems nice
[19:13] <daftykins> :)
[19:13] <Barabossa> Anyway, let me introduce myself
[19:13] <Barabossa> Name is Jon
[19:13] <diddledan> o/
[19:13] <Barabossa> Belgian, living in Barcelona
[19:14] <Barabossa> 27, no boobs, sorry
[19:14] <diddledan> and moving to london - that's some serious internationalisation :-p
[19:14] <Barabossa> studied politics, best studies to find 0 jobs
[19:14] <Barabossa> so now working in IT/marketing
[19:15] <Barabossa> yeah :D
[19:15] <Barabossa> like to travel around a bit
[19:17] <daftykins> good for you, staying in the same spot can definitely limit things
[19:18] <Barabossa> yeah, i guess
[19:19] <Barabossa> on the other hand, you feel like you never ever belong anywhere
[19:19] <Barabossa> and only keep your best best friends
[19:19] <Barabossa> anyway, how about you guys?
[19:21] <daftykins> i live on the island of Guernsey and do a bit of IT support for small biz
[19:23] <diddledan> interesting - they've made a sequel to olympus has fallen
[19:23] <diddledan> called london has fallen
[19:23] <brobostigon> north cotswolds, accentric, aspie.
[19:24] <diddledan> basing^Hamazingstoke
[19:24] <diddledan> :-p
[19:24] <diddledan> amazingstoke is .. well .. amazing :-D
[19:25] <daftykins> get stoked for amazingstoke
[19:25] <brobostigon> north cotswolds, accentric, human wizard*, aspie.
[19:26] <diddledan> I'll just state that I'm a genius and leave it at that
[19:27] <brobostigon> i used to use the name, leovinus, the biggest genius in all the universe who desgined start ship titanic.
[19:28] <brobostigon> starship titanic*
[19:28] <diddledan> that's available on gog.com now
[19:28] <diddledan> 5.99
[19:28] <brobostigon> book or game?
[19:28] <diddledan> game
[19:28] <brobostigon> or both
[19:29] <brobostigon> great gane, :)
[19:29] <diddledan> I don't know if they have the book too
[19:29] <diddledan> but gog is mainly games - if they have the book it'll be as a bonus to purchasing the game
[19:29] <brobostigon> took me about 6 months to finish, when we firt got it, late 90's.
[19:30] <diddledan> I remember that it included fraunhofer's mp3 codec as a separate installation step
[19:30] <brobostigon> yep.
[19:30] <diddledan> craycray the random things you remember
[19:33] <Barabossa> talking about games; y'all hyped for SteamOS ?
[19:36] <daftykins> i don't think it'll do anything for my usage of PC gaming personally
[19:37] <Barabossa> i agree with you
[19:37] <Barabossa> don't see the point for anyone except buyers of steam machines
[19:38] <Barabossa> or mac users
[19:38] <Barabossa> however, indirectly i hope it will push developers into developing more for linux
[19:39] <brobostigon> used to play doom and quake, but play D&D and magic more now.
[19:40] <diddledan> I don't really play anything
[19:40] <daftykins> mind you i'm more on consoles due to friends being less on the PC
[19:41] <popey> I'm considering a SteamOS box
[19:41] <brobostigon> my aspieness didnt like when i was younger being around other people, so it was computer games and not games that involved other people and groups, but now i am older, i like games like D&D with groups.
[19:42] <Barabossa> :) cool
[19:42] <Barabossa> I like D&D too
[19:42] <brobostigon> :)
[19:42] <Barabossa> though i haven't played it too often
[19:42] <brobostigon> what charecter do you play?
[19:42] <Barabossa> have a dragonborn figurine somewhere
[19:43] <Barabossa> and regarding magic
[19:43] <Barabossa> white mono for the win
[19:43] <Barabossa> will exile your mobs all day long
[19:44] <brobostigon> fireball, :)
[19:44] <Barabossa> haha
[19:44] <Barabossa> yeah, lost against a friend a few weeks ago
[19:44] <Barabossa> with a mono red deck
[19:44] <Barabossa> took him 4 turns
[19:44] <diddledan> for those on virgin - we're not doubling to 300Mbps this year - the october upgrade is to 200: http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2015/09/virgin-media-boosts-top-uk-vivid-cable-broadband-speeds-to-200mbps.html
[19:44] <brobostigon> Barabossa: mine is vintage red.
[19:45] <daftykins> diddledan: mmm and Thursday too so i read
[19:45] <Barabossa> goblins?
[19:46] <brobostigon> Barabossa: vintage as in the deck format, as i use cards in my decks from over the last 15 years, and i use red.
[19:46] <Barabossa> i see
[19:46] <Barabossa> yeah i don't really play vintage
[19:47] <brobostigon> a mixture of, i should say.
[19:47] <Barabossa> cause i gave all my old cards away when i was 18 or so
[19:47] <diddledan> grr. they're not upping the upload speed :-(
[19:47] <diddledan> "the new 200Mbps tier remaining on uploads of 12Mbps"
[19:47] <Barabossa> btw @diddledan what's that with the internet?
[19:47] <diddledan> 12 is pitiful
[19:48] <diddledan> hmm?
[19:49] <Barabossa> i just dont get what its about
[19:49] <diddledan> virgin media is a cable phone/tv/broadband provider - they're upgrading their speed caps
[19:51] <Barabossa> 200 is still pretty good no :P ?
[19:51] <Barabossa> think i have 10 here :P
[19:51] <diddledan> yes 200 is good for internet-to-you but their you-to-internet speed is stuck at 12
[19:53] <Barabossa> ah
[19:53] <Barabossa> the upload
[19:53] <Barabossa> ok :P
[19:53] <Barabossa> yeah 12 is not very amazing
[19:54] <Barabossa> btw, which ISP is do you recommend?
[19:54] <Barabossa> in the UK ?
[19:54] <Barabossa> not that i have a flat yet or so
[19:54] <Barabossa> ill airbnb a bit while looking for one
[19:54] <Barabossa> but would be good to know already
[20:05] <Barabossa> noob question for you guys
[20:05] <Barabossa> do you know how i can install a .tar.xz file?
[20:07] <brobostigon> more context required, please.
[20:07] <Barabossa> hmm ok sorry
[20:08] <Barabossa> trying to install this
[20:08] <Barabossa> https://launchpad.net/synapse-project
[20:09] <Barabossa> if i click on the download button i just get some random code
[20:09] <Barabossa> like not even code
[20:09] <Barabossa> tried before with http://www.sublimetext.com/2
[20:11] <diddledan> virgin are a fairly good provider for mass-market - their headline download speeds are pretty well regarded. alternatively there's bt's infinity product at 80mbps/20mbps split. though if you want power user and don't mind a limit on the amount of data you can transfer in a month then there's aaisp (andrews & arnold) or zen
[20:11] <diddledan> every provider except virgin use bt phone lines to deliver the service via either adsl or fttc/p whereas virgin are a pure cable provider
[20:12] <Barabossa> cool
[20:12] <Barabossa> just checked andrews and arnold
[20:12] <Barabossa> but isnt it weird to be power user but have data limits?
[20:12] <diddledan> yeah
[20:12] <Barabossa> :D haha
[20:12] <Barabossa> ok
[20:13] <Barabossa> so virgin is the fastest i presume?
[20:13] <diddledan> virgin are the fastest unless you can get fttp (fibre all the way into your home)
[20:14] <ali12341> i'm not sure i really trust aaisp tbh
[20:15] <diddledan> oh?
[20:15] <ali12341> they claim that other ISPs are cheap because light users are subsidizing it
[20:15] <ali12341> yet their cheapest package is more expensive than most ISPs unlimited package, while having a smaller limit than most ISPs minimum tier
[20:15] <ali12341> this doesn't make sense
[20:16] <Myrtti> zen is good
[20:16]  * zleap uses zen, definatley recommend them
[20:22] <Barabossa> sorry
[20:22] <Barabossa> steam made pc crash
[20:23] <Barabossa> and ctrl alt delete doesnt work in ubuntu i guess
[20:23] <daftykins> ctrl+alt+F1 would take you to a TTY where you could diagnose :)
[20:23] <daftykins> (if it hadn't fully crashed)
[20:24] <ali12341> !dontzap
[20:24] <ali12341> bah
[20:55] <popey> davmor2: that update isn't Android L
[20:55] <popey> it's still 4.4.2 here.
[20:55] <popey> oh, here comes another one
[20:55] <popey> 1030MB in size
[20:55] <popey> holy hell
[20:56] <zleap> that is a big update
[21:08] <diddledan> popey: another update?
[21:13] <popey> ooh, android 5.1 apparently
[21:16] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8hw7powzmwmsusu/IMG_20150929_220328.jpg?dl=0
[21:16] <daftykins> :D
[21:17] <popey> dem palm rests
[21:18] <popey> also, neomagic :)
[21:18] <daftykins> yip! 800x600 screen
[21:19] <daftykins> i actually used this at Uni in 2005
[21:19] <popey> bad memories of the dell latitude machines with trackball
[21:19] <popey> think they were 486
[21:22] <popey> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Latitude-XP-retro-Intel-486-laptop-/111633453477
[21:22] <popey> hehe, one of them
[21:24]  * popey remembers making a disk image for those which had dos 6.22 and windows 3.11 working _perfectly_
[21:25] <popey> had to dial into the Dell BBS to get drivers.
[21:25] <popey> Happy days
[21:27] <daftykins> ouch :)
[21:27] <daftykins> seems the CD-Rs i have are too small for lubuntu
[21:27] <daftykins> i'm being optimistic with an overburn attempt
[21:27] <diddledan> \o/
[21:28] <diddledan> you need a triple-layer blurry dis
[21:28] <diddledan> disk
[21:28] <daftykins> disc!
[21:28] <diddledan> ops
[21:37] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4cburppnojm19d/IMG_20150929_223539.jpg?dl=0
[21:42] <dogmatic69_> anyone here that was around for my wifi issues, I broke down and bought some eth->wifi AP's off ebay... they work great
[21:42] <dogmatic69_> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201384130690
[21:42] <diddledan> \o/
[21:42] <diddledan> dogmatic69_: cheat :-p
[21:43] <dogmatic69_> cant go wrong for £8
[21:43] <diddledan> nice
[21:43] <dogmatic69_> and it does wifi extend, eg: wifi -> wifi and AP, eth -> wifi
[21:43] <diddledan> I'm guessing not 802.11AC :-p
[21:43] <dogmatic69_> I get 40Mb/s on speedtest.net in the same room
[21:43] <diddledan> that's fairly decent
[21:43] <dogmatic69_> yes
[21:44] <dogmatic69_> actually, it was 49Mbps...
[21:46] <dogmatic69_> quite a nice GUI on the device too. not even broken English on the instruction leaflet..
[21:50] <daftykins> that *is* a rarity!
[21:51] <dogmatic69_> at first I did not even look at the leaflet, but after all the other good I had a look and was shocked. thick paper, glossy images, decent English....
[21:51] <daftykins> i think you should pay them more ;)
[21:52] <dogmatic69_> When I bought them I was thinking, "well, its only £8 if it does not work..."
[21:52] <dogmatic69_> lol
[21:52] <dogmatic69_> shhhh
[22:55] <diddledan> popey: encryption ftw?
[22:55] <diddledan> so edward @snowden is now twittered
[23:39] <Azelphur> popey: fyi https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/3mv0sy/thread_for_european_nexus_fans_any_other/cvijsel
[23:39] <diddledan> I think marketing need to synergise our iot roi with mvp's
[23:39] <popey> nice
[23:40] <Azelphur> so nope, no buying the US version I guess
[23:42] <daftykins> zomg the lubuntu progress bar is at the end!
[23:42] <daftykins> only 2hrs after booting the CD-R
[23:42] <diddledan> and management need to analyse the synergies of our business processes to capitalise on realtime customer stories
[23:42] <daftykins> diddledan: you didn't say cloud yet
[23:42] <diddledan> oh yeah. cloud.
[23:48] <diddledan> and agile
[23:48] <diddledan> probably need some rest in there too
[23:49] <daftykins> oh and 'dynamic'