[00:00] <_denis_> you find it running uname
[00:01] <_denis_> chance
[00:01] <Huscurian> daftykins: I'm deleting my stuff on the usb
[00:01] <Huscurian> I already saved it on my desktop
[00:01] <chance> 3.19.0-28-generic I think??
[00:02] <daftykins> Huscurian: you got any other storage than that? if it's really important it'd be handy to be off the target PC
[00:02] <_denis_> ok chance let me have a research :)
[00:03] <daftykins> !pm
[00:03] <chance> Thanks _denis_
[00:04] <_denis_> Linux kernel 2.6 or above (up to 3.13)
[00:04] <_denis_> chance
[00:04] <_denis_> you haven't read this in the amd official page, don't you?
[00:05] <_denis_> your 3.19 is NOT SUPPORTED
[00:05] <Huscurian> daftykins: sorry about that
[00:05] <daftykins> np
[00:05] <Huscurian> I moved the .iso to the usb flashdrive
[00:05] <chance> Oh. Ok. Can I not get it then?
[00:06] <daftykins> _denis_: i think that's inaccurate
[00:06] <_denis_> well, you can and may work
[00:06] <_denis_> but it was not designed to work with that
[00:06] <_denis_> so.... to have better success possibilities
[00:07] <_denis_> you can downgrade your kernel
[00:07] <daftykins> nah you must have an outdated page up
[00:07] <daftykins> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+64
[00:08] <daftykins> that for me refers to catalyst 15.9 which works with the 15.04 kernel fine
[00:08] <daftykins> i'm assuming that link works, otherwise just follow through the download page wizard picking ubuntu 64-bit beside the choice for your card
[00:08] <daftykins> there's also an install guide at - http://www2.ati.com/relnotes/amd-catalyst-graphics-driver-installer-notes-for-linux-operating-systems.pdf
[00:09] <daftykins> chance: see the above ^ bear in mind there's also the package 'fglrx' and 'fglrx-updates' in the built in repos you can try too
[00:09] <Huscurian> daftykins: I'm almost done with backing up my stuff
[00:11] <_denis_> what ubuntu version are you running?
[00:11] <_denis_> chance
[00:11] <jmacdonald> hi. i'm wondering the proper syntax to put a device into promiscuous mode in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:12] <chance> _denis_ 14.04.3
[00:13] <_denis_> chancecan you upgrade with the ubuntu utility to 14.04.04 LTS?
[00:13] <_denis_> chance can
[00:14] <chance> daftykins: I've tried using the built in fglrx but when I do, my games just don't launch, and when I try to switch back to the default, it makes me have low resolution and I cant change it or the driver.
[00:14] <Huscurian> daftykins: OK...  what next?
[00:14] <PudgePacket> I have a script that i removed the .sh extension from. When I execute it, how does bash know it's a script and not a binaryu
[00:14] <daftykins> Huscurian: i already mentioned using universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com to put the ISO onto the flash drive
[00:14] <daftykins> (from Windows)
[00:15] <daftykins> chance: right - and fglrx-updates ?
[00:15] <_denis_> chance , upgrade to 14.04.4 LTS
[00:15] <chance> _denis_: I don't know how to do that haha
[00:15] <_denis_> just
[00:15] <daftykins> _denis_: that's rubbish advice
[00:15] <chance> I don't know who to listen to lmao
[00:16] <daftykins> not that guy, trust me
[00:16] <Coded1> anyone else having problems with ubuntu-desktop-next?
[00:16] <daftykins> chance: go read the PDF i linked above and grab the appropriate download from AMD if you want to try that one
[00:16] <_denis_> I am not taking the responsibility to tell another man to try installing a driver that doesn't have lister that OS version in the compatibility list
[00:16] <daftykins> chance: be sure to read the uninstall part so you know how to get yourself out of trouble ;)
[00:16] <daftykins> _denis_: whatever page you were looking at was outdated
[00:17] <Coded1> I've installed 15.10 beta2 and when I install "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop-next" it fails at "bluetooth-touch"
[00:17] <_denis_> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+64
[00:17] <Huscurian> daftykins: I'm installing it via UUI
[00:17] <daftykins> !wily | Coded1
[00:17] <Coded1> daftykins: ty
[00:18] <_denis_> if i were you I would just have a combination of OS and kernet that is listed in the driver download page
[00:18] <_denis_> I would NOT try strange mixes
[00:18] <_denis_> because a black screen is annoying
[00:19]  * daftykins chuckles
[00:19] <_denis_> so, chance, i suggest you to upgrade to 14.04.4
[00:19] <nicomachus> Getting an error trying to extract a .rar, all it says is "an error occurred while extracting files". Any way to get a more verbose error message so I can see what the problem is?
[00:19] <_denis_> you do it using the software
[00:19] <_denis_> provided with ubuntu
[00:19] <daftykins> nicomachus: got unrar-nonfree or which installed?
[00:20] <nicomachus> I have unrar, yes.
[00:20] <nicomachus> just double-checked.
[00:20] <_denis_> "software updates"
[00:20] <daftykins> which one though
[00:20] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[00:20] <nicomachus> whichever one "apt-get install unrar" gives me
[00:20] <nicomachus> is there another...?
[00:21] <chance> _denis_ so after I do that, I should be good to get the driver?
[00:21] <Bashing-om> _denis_: Fully updated system : lsb_release -a >> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS  .
[00:21] <_denis_> theorically yes, your os will be in the compatibility page
[00:22] <daftykins> nicomachus: good lord, i was pretty specific with 'unrar-nonfree'
[00:22] <nicomachus> well since that's not a valid package, I assumed you meant something else.
[00:23] <daftykins> hmm must've been removed
[00:23] <nicomachus> "Package unrar-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[00:23] <nicomachus> aka, unrar. what I have installed.
[00:23] <_denis_> Bashing-om where are you reading?
[00:23] <daftykins> oh unrar-free exists though XD
[00:23] <nicomachus> shoulda been more specific...
[00:23] <chance> _denis_ alright well I'll go do that quick and come back if I have any problems.
[00:23] <daftykins> nicomachus: haha, good one - you're getting no help now :)
[00:24] <nicomachus> if you dish it, you should be able to take it. I do appreciate your help, just not the snark.
[00:24] <Bashing-om> _denis_: My terminal . the .4 point release is yet in the future .
[00:24] <daftykins> nicomachus: you're out of luck tonight :)
[00:24] <Huscurian> daftykins: the USB is installed already with Ubuntu
[00:25] <nicomachus> still the same error.
[00:25] <daftykins> Huscurian: nice, just need to boot from it then
[00:25] <_denis_> chance i think i will quit in half an hour
[00:25] <Huscurian> So restart the PC, go into BIOS?
[00:26] <daftykins> Huscurian: not necessarily no, a single key press might give a boot menu
[00:27] <_denis_> please, chance, make sure to download the driver from here: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+64
[00:27] <daftykins> oh look where i linked ages ago
[00:27] <daftykins> :)
[00:27] <Bashing-om> _denis_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule .. Does not indicate there will be a .4 point release .
[00:28] <daftykins> i vote it's a typo by AMD
[00:28] <_denis_> is it? repeated 2 times?
[00:28] <daftykins> well since it doesn't exist it's a good sign
[00:29] <_denis_> yep, it is the .1
[00:29] <_denis_> WAIT chance !!!!
[00:31] <Huscurian> daftykins: I'm going to reboot the PC
[00:31] <Huscurian> and see if I can boot up Ubuntu
[00:31] <daftykins> ok
[00:42] <_denis_> damn you, wifi driver!
[00:43] <CalebW> Anybody on?
[00:43] <cfedde> some
[00:43] <_denis_> hi
[00:43] <CalebW> I have Ubuntu 14.04 and one of my cpus is running at 100%, but I'm not doing anything...
[00:44] <_denis_> clean install?
[00:44] <daftykins> check with 'top' and sort by CPU
[00:44] <CalebW> What is cupsd?
[00:45] <daftykins> printer daemon
[00:45] <CalebW> Why would that be running? I'm not connected...
[00:45] <daftykins> the printer daemon is always there
[00:46] <CalebW> It doesn't need to be running at 100%
[00:46] <daftykins> yeah i get that part
[00:46] <daftykins> do you have a printer?
[00:47] <CalebW> Yes
[00:47] <_denis_> model?
[00:47] <CalebW> HP ENVY 4500
[00:47] <daftykins> so jump on http://localhost:631 and see if something's up
[00:47] <daftykins> that's a laptop not a printer
[00:47] <destinydriven> hey guys, I'm running ubuntu 15.04 on an HP Pavillion CTO Quad 6100. I recently upgraded my RAM from 8GB to 16GB and immediately started noticing that the PC would do random reboots but especially at boot time.  I'd get this error ACPI PCC probe failed
[00:47] <destinydriven> sometimes, the PC reboots several times before I get the login screen
[00:48] <CalebW> What's a laptop?
[00:48] <daftykins> destinydriven: i don't think that message is necessarily related
[00:48] <daftykins> well, or a model of computer - the Envy part you just said
[00:48] <_denis_> destinydriven perform a memory check with memtest
[00:48] <destinydriven> daftykins, when I remove 8GB, it still happens but less often
[00:48] <CalebW> It's a printer
[00:48] <destinydriven> _denis_, memory checks out fine
[00:48] <CalebW> I'm looking right at it
[00:48] <destinydriven> I even tested the memory on another laptop
[00:49] <nicomachus> destinydriven: possibly stupid question, but you shut down the PC and switched it off before swapping the RAM, right?
[00:49] <daftykins> and it's called envy o0 weird.
[00:49] <destinydriven> nicomachus, yeah I did that
[00:49] <daftykins> you'd know 'cause it'd be fried
[00:50] <_denis_> daftykins have you connected the printer to the pc?
[00:50] <nicomachus> or short the RAM port and throw random ACPI errors.
[00:50] <daftykins> _denis_: i am not the person asking.
[00:50] <destinydriven> I also did some research and saw that it might be related to some nvidia graphics (which I don't have, running AMD)
[00:50] <_denis_> ops, autoscoll. sorry
[00:51] <CalebW> So on the webpage I have a job waiting to complete
[00:51] <orion_> ==
[00:51] <daftykins> CalebW: i reckon it's stuck spooling
[00:51] <destinydriven> you think the RAM port is damaged?
[00:51] <daftykins> i'd say that was a stretch of a claim
[00:51] <CalebW> I tried to cancel it, but it says it can't because it's already canceled
[00:52] <_denis_> destinydriven does it happend only with ubuntu?
[00:52] <destinydriven> _denis_, sadly no, it's worse when I run windows on it
[00:52] <daftykins> CalebW: try deleting it after stopping the service / rebooting
[00:53] <destinydriven> I did try wiping the PC and installed windows 8.1 on it just to see what would happen
[00:53] <_denis_> so... the problem cannot be software
[00:53] <wakeatnight> whats a good way to get a precompiled, latest, realtime kernel for 15.04? thanks
[00:53] <orion_> Konqueror see HTML5 no sound, how to solve?
[00:54] <CalebW> I managed to purge all jobs, thanks for helping
[00:54] <daftykins> destinydriven: disk issue?
[00:54] <CalebW> Now my battery should last longer
[00:54] <daftykins> CalebW: definitely :D
[00:54] <_denis_> destinydriven don't you think at an hardware damage when you see that two completely different software beware the same way?
[00:54] <destinydriven> daftykins, disk is fine. Brand new SSD
[00:54] <daftykins> just because it's new doesn't mean anything
[00:55] <tonyarkles> ok, I'm having the strangest problem
[00:55] <tonyarkles> I'm trying to install 14.04.3-amd64-desktop
[00:55] <destinydriven> the thing is HP recommends max 8GB for that model
[00:55] <tonyarkles> i've checked the md5sum on my ISO and it matches
[00:55] <daftykins> destinydriven: easiest way, assuming you're certain on memtest doing multiple passes without incident - i'd pull the drives and run a live session for a bit
[00:55] <tonyarkles> but when I install it, I get 32-bit kernel and userland
[00:55] <_denis_> destinydriven, can i suggest you running a live version of an os after removing the HDD?
[00:56] <daftykins> tonyarkles: must've been an incorrectly marked file on a mirror
[00:56] <tonyarkles> daftykins: the md5sum matches though?!
[00:56] <destinydriven> _denis_, I tried running ubuntu live and the problem doesn't surface
[00:56] <daftykins> tonyarkles: maybe they hashed their own files
[00:56] <daftykins> *shrug*
[00:56] <daftykins> just grab another?
[00:56] <Huscurian> daftykins: I'm on "Trying Ubuntu"
[00:56] <krabador> if i would, from terminal, copy all files types in a folder, to another, all but not a particular extension?
[00:56] <Huscurian> I didn't install it since it asks for 6.6 GB
[00:57] <tonyarkles> daftykins: i'm hesistant because i'm tethered and burning my data plan
[00:57] <CalebW> tonyarkles: just go to like a public library
[00:57] <CalebW> or some other free hotspot like MCdonalds
[00:58] <tonyarkles> hahahaha I'd love to
[00:58] <tonyarkles> genuinely in the middle of nowhere right now
[00:58] <daftykins> tonyarkles: sadly we have not yet perfected beaming bits to your system, so i'm not quite sure what you expect us to do about that?
[00:58] <_denis_> destinydriven so...... you have those problems only when you run an os from hdd, right?
[00:58] <CalebW> Then sorry, but you'll have to settle for 32 bit then
[00:59] <orion_>  Konqueror see HTML5 no sound, how to solve?
[00:59] <destinydriven> _denis_, yes apparently
[00:59] <daftykins> Huscurian: you'll need to make some space on the drive yeah, you can resize C: from within Windows - or just have more space from where you had X:
[00:59] <Huscurian> I have space within X:\
[01:00] <daftykins> you'll need to delete that partition
[01:00] <Huscurian> Would it be doable to install from there?
[01:00] <daftykins> Huscurian: run 'gparted' and make space.
[01:00] <Huscurian> OK, one second
[01:00] <daftykins> *to* not from, from is coming from the flash drive
[01:00] <_denis_> destinydriven have you a working for sure HDD?
[01:00] <destinydriven> _denis_, so you think it's the SSD that's the issue?
[01:00] <tonyarkles> daftykins: I'm just so confused is all
[01:00] <_denis_> it might be that
[01:00] <Huscurian> So I delete the partition in the X:\, not the flah?
[01:00] <Huscurian> flash*
[01:00] <destinydriven> _denis_, yeah the HDD is in perfect condition. Passes SMART test
[01:01] <_denis_> destinydriven a not properly working hdd is a pain, i have experimented that
[01:01] <wakeatnight> when installting lowaltency kernel from repos, do I have to uninstall my current kernel (I think not, just run update-grub afterwards?) and remove fglrx?
[01:01] <tonyarkles> daftykins: and it matches the MD5SUMS from releases.ubuntu.com
[01:01] <daftykins> Huscurian: you look at the hard disk with gparted, because that's where Windows is and ubuntu will need to go beside it
[01:01] <tonyarkles> so in theory downloading it again from there should result in the exact same file?
[01:01] <Huscurian> Ah, I see.
[01:01] <daftykins> tonyarkles: yeah so don't...
[01:01] <_denis_> smart test mean nothing or so on
[01:02] <destinydriven> _denis_, I can deal with the random reboots at boot time   . . it's when I'm working on something and then it happens abruptly
[01:02] <destinydriven> that's the part that annoys me
[01:02] <Huscurian> daftykins: I am in gparted.  I see dev/sda1, sda2, sda3 and unallocated.
[01:02] <Huscurian> Unallocated is 2.46 MiB
[01:02] <Huscurian> sda3 is 108.64
[01:02] <Huscurian> sda is 3.05 GiB
[01:02] <daftykins> destinydriven: i'd change the SATA cables :)
[01:02] <_denis_> abruptly?
[01:02] <Huscurian> sda2 is 3.05GiB I mean
[01:02] <tonyarkles> daftykins: how do I get a 64-bit install though? like... is this a known thing where the 14.04.3-amd64-desktop iso installs  32-bit binaries?
[01:03] <CalebW> So you
[01:03] <Huscurian> sda3 is what I want though
[01:03] <Huscurian> To install Ubuntu
[01:03] <CalebW> you'll want to shrink sda3
[01:03] <destinydriven> _denis_, ok I will try that. I have two HDD so I will try with the other cable
[01:03] <daftykins> tonyarkles: no it's not, i have no idea what you've managed to find - but going on and on about it when the answer is to download something else, i don't feel like we're going to make any progress here...
[01:03] <tonyarkles> daftykins: I'm just curious what you'd recommend I download?
[01:04] <tonyarkles> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.3/
[01:04] <daftykins> either a torrent or pick another mirror
[01:04] <wileee> tonyarkles, find the daily 14.04 use a link from there.
[01:04] <_denis_> destinydriven if the problem is not the hdd it might be a power fail
[01:04] <tonyarkles> wileee: ahhhh interesting!
[01:04] <tonyarkles> i didn't know there were dailies
[01:04] <tonyarkles> thanks!
[01:04] <_denis_> it seems strange
[01:04] <wileee> lts yes
[01:04] <destinydriven> power fail?
[01:04] <destinydriven> like a problem with the power board?
[01:04] <Huscurian> daftykins: should I delete X:\
[01:04] <_denis_> yes
[01:05] <Huscurian> and make more space for Ubuntu or move Ubuntu into X:
[01:05] <destinydriven> ouch
[01:05] <daftykins> Huscurian: ubuntu will never be part of a drive letter, only Windows uses driver letters :) yes you can delete it, all it did was hold the WUBI install before right?
[01:05] <_denis_> it wouldn't be this strange as a behaviour
[01:05] <Huscurian> daftykins: correct.
[01:05] <destinydriven> I'll try swapping the cables first
[01:05] <Huscurian> OK, deleting it
[01:05] <daftykins> destinydriven: well the problem would continue, you'd need only one disk attached
[01:06] <destinydriven> daftykins, yeah that's the plan.  the other cable would be too short anyway
[01:06] <Huscurian> OK, by installing Ubuntu, it should create its own partition, correct?
[01:06] <Huscurian> Would this enable a dual boot?
[01:07] <daftykins> yes and yes
[01:07] <Huscurian> OK
[01:07] <Huscurian> I'm going to install right now
[01:07] <daftykins> as long as when you booted it booted with a purple screen and a little logo
[01:07] <destinydriven> daftykins, _denis_ I'm gonna go try this now. Will report back possibly tomorrow. Need to run it for a while to monitor
[01:07] <destinydriven> thanks again to all
[01:07] <Huscurian> daftykins: it came with a purple screen, and has a purple/orange background
[01:07] <_denis_> no problem :)
[01:08] <Huscurian> Everything's running fune graphically
[01:08] <Huscurian> fine*
[01:08] <_denis_> just a auggestions
[01:08] <_denis_> destinydriven
[01:08] <destinydriven> _denis_, yeah
[01:08] <daftykins> !efi | Huscurian just have a quick glance at this and be sure it booted either with the white text on black background or the purple one with the little logo at the bottom
[01:08] <_denis_> detach everything from your PC
[01:08] <destinydriven> I only have mouse
[01:08] <_denis_> amd
[01:08] <Huscurian> daftykins: I booted from a white text with black background
[01:08] <Huscurian> It had 3 different options
[01:09] <_denis_> and*
[01:09] <Huscurian> 1) Try Ubuntu
[01:09] <Huscurian> 2) Install Ubuntu
[01:09] <Huscurian> and the 3rd option, not sure
[01:09] <_denis_> one HDD at time
[01:09] <_denis_> each time in different slot
[01:09] <Huscurian> It also specified e for edit command, and c for command line
[01:09] <destinydriven> _denis_, the other HDD only has user data.
[01:09] <daftykins> Huscurian: ah, it sounds like it's booted in EFI mode - which isn't going to work with windows 7 beside it
[01:10] <_denis_> i suggest you to just use one HDD
[01:10] <_denis_> pick an USB drive
[01:10] <Huscurian> daftykins: when I boot into BIOS, it said UEFI
[01:10] <_denis_> and put there your important data
[01:10] <Huscurian> And then when I entered the screen, it showed that white text/black background
[01:10] <destinydriven> yeah, I can use an external enclosure
[01:10] <daftykins> Huscurian: yeah there should be a boot menu with two choices, the flash drive as EFI and without EFI
[01:10] <_denis_> finding out the broken part will be easier
[01:11] <Huscurian> Yeah, it had the two
[01:11] <Huscurian> Which one should I pick?
[01:11] <destinydriven> _denis_, cool.   I'm gonna try this right now.
[01:11] <Huscurian> The one without EFI?
[01:11] <destinydriven> later
[01:11] <daftykins> Huscurian: yep, the installer will then detect 7 properly and install alongside it
[01:12] <Huscurian> BRB.
[01:12] <Huscurian> Going to reboot, K?
[01:12] <_denis_> remember destinydriven : the less hdd and usb attacched devices: the easier will be the broken part hunt
[01:12] <_denis_> you ARE going to find it destinydriven
[01:13] <_denis_> and if you don't..... well, you know that the problem is elsewhere: possibly the power board
[01:14] <_denis_> i'm leaving destinydriven
[01:14] <_denis_> see you tomorrow (hopefully)
[01:19] <nicomachus> daftykins: if you're interested, it turned out to be a .zip masquerading as .rar
[01:23] <daftykins> not really :)
[01:23] <^Ocean^> okay, im running a fresh clean install of 14.04 lts, trying to get php runnign for userdir  have userdir working,  but when i try an navigate to a .php file, i get raw text, no php code is executed.
[01:23] <^Ocean^> phpmyadmin works fine.
[01:24] <^Ocean^> followed ever lamp how-to and cant get php files to execute, and nothing in error logs
[01:24] <^Ocean^> im stumped
[01:24] <daftykins> sounds like you didn't install the apache module
[01:24] <daftykins> or you've not got the correct entries on that enabled site's config
[01:25] <nicomachus> daftykins: honestly, there's no need to be a jerk like that all the time. It turns people away. I know you do this all volunteer and everyone here appreciates all the help you give, but it's *possible* to do it without being a jerk. Whether you care or not is fine, but it does have an effect.
[01:25] <Huscurian> daftykins: I checked the BIOS.
[01:25] <Huscurian> There's the EFI option and the Legacy ROM option.
[01:25] <Huscurian> I used Legacy ROM, then found that there's only UEFI for the flashdrive
[01:26] <daftykins> hahaha
[01:27] <highdivr> |-}
[01:27] <^Ocean^> im wondering what im missing
[01:27] <daftykins> Huscurian: what are you booted into right now?
[01:27] <^Ocean^> its just a test box on a lan,  no vhosts or anything
[01:28] <gshmu> uname -r is 3.19, how to disable update kernel
[01:29] <mozzarella> guys help
[01:29] <Huscurian> daftykins: I'm booted into insecure boot mode, Legacy ROM, and the flashdrive as UEFI
[01:29] <Huscurian> It came with the white text/black background
[01:29] <gshmu> I don't need to install 3.13 kernel version, I'm using synaptic to lock version, but didn't work
[01:29] <mozzarella> I don't know how to remove the on-screen keyboard
[01:30] <daftykins> Huscurian: so ubuntu live session right now? can you open the terminal application and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" and paste the link it creates here?
[01:31] <Huscurian> It's Try Ubuntu right now.
[01:31] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: you definitely put the php module on for apache, if it's apache yes?
[01:31] <daftykins> gshmu: 'update kernel' ?
[01:32] <gshmu> daftykins: disable update old version kernel
[01:32] <^Ocean^> daftykins: yup
[01:32] <Huscurian> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12607552/
[01:32] <daftykins> gshmu: but you get security fixes in the updates?
[01:33] <gshmu> daftykins: I using newly version kernel
[01:33] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: i definitely think either your site config is wrong, missing a setting - or perhaps it needs a restart (apache)
[01:33] <mozzarella> I don't know how to remove the on-screen keyboard
[01:34] <gshmu> daftykins: I'm using v3.19, I need update v3.19, but v3.13 don't
[01:34] <^Ocean^> daftykins: iv been following every tutorial on lamp for ubuntu 14.10 and cant find anything miss-configured
[01:34] <daftykins> Huscurian: ah so you've actually got 3 disks, yeah that win7 install definitely looks legacy and not EFI, so it's not going to install right until you can fight it into booting the ubuntu flash drive as legacy :)
[01:34] <^Ocean^> and nothing in the log files reveal anything wrong
[01:34] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: where's the test browser running from? is it perhaps pulling cached responses?
[01:35] <Huscurian> daftykins: so I have to fight the Win 7 legacy to have it dual boot with ubuntu?  Any thoughts as to how to do it?
[01:36] <daftykins> Huscurian: well just poke around your EFI and try to make sure it's got legacy boot enabled and preferred, secure boot and EFI boot off... ensure win7 still boots like that, then try getting a boot menu which should list the flash drive twice - is it an Asus/MSI/gigabyte motherboard do you know?
[01:37] <Huscurian> ASUS Rog Extreme Z mobo
[01:38] <Huscurian> daftykins: I'll see about having a secure boot, use Legacy, and see if I can get EFI removed.
[01:38] <Huscurian> I'll wait until you can confirm any new info before I leave.
[01:38] <Huscurian> This way I don't have to do "Try Ubuntu" and reinstall HexChat every instance.
[01:38] <^Ocean^> daftykins: cleard chache on browser, also tested from 2 seperate box's
[01:39] <daftykins> Huscurian: could just jump on webchat.freenode.net when you do
[01:39] <daftykins> no need to install a client so much
[01:39] <Huscurian> what does webchat.freenode.net have?
[01:39] <Huscurian> Does it have an #ubuntu channel or?
[01:39] <^Ocean^> whats off, i dont think Apache is reading the conf files, i have a servername defiend in the default.conf and Apache still errors telling me it cannot resolve servers fqn
[01:40] <daftykins> Huscurian: a browser client to come on here
[01:40] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: did you say you've got this on 14.04?
[01:40] <daftykins> (cat /etc/issue)
[01:40] <^Ocean^> 14.10
[01:40] <Huscurian> daftykins: thanks.
[01:40] <Huscurian> OK, rebooting.
[01:40] <Huscurian> BRB
[01:41] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: are you sure? because that's EOL.
[01:41] <^Ocean^> 14.10 is EOL ? thats the one the ubuntu page served upto me as the stable LTS release
[01:42] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: you have it wrong then, run "cat /etc/issue" and you'll get confirmation
[01:42] <^Ocean^> oh my bad its 14.04.3 LTS
[01:43] <daftykins> ok good stuff
[01:43] <daftykins> 14.04 changed the config approach a fair bit, so a lot of files are spread about now
[01:43] <daftykins> if you have any parts getting ignored, it could be they're in the wrong file
[01:44] <user23> i has joined
[01:44] <ubuntu___> gabrielschulhof: hello, was the sig killed?
[01:44] <^Ocean^> hmm,   now im really confused lol, its a stock install.   installed linux, installed lamp and expexted it to work more or less out of box haha
[01:44] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: i've got a few web servers on 14.04 working just fine, must've been some step that went wonky
[01:45] <^Ocean^> iv repeated the steps a few times,  usinga  few diff how-tos
[01:45] <daftykins> they must be pretty rubbish guides :)
[01:46] <daftykins> are you putting php just in /var/www/html/ right now?
[01:46] <nhyl> guys, please help me ... I cant unlock my drive on startup after i install nvidia driver (ubuntu bootup splash shows up with enter password thing, but i cant enter anything), i have to go to recovery mode, then there is a textconsole with "please unlock /dev/sda something" where i can type the password, then i can continue with normal boot, nvidia logo shows up for 1sec and i'm on the normal login screen. This works but it's really ann
[01:46] <nhyl> oying to select recovery mode everytime i start the pc... how can i fix this? i need the prop nvidia drivers for gaming etc
[01:47] <daftykins> nhyl: which ones did you install?
[01:48] <Huscurian> daftykins: I tried to log into the flash drive without UEFI, tinkered around but no secure boot.
[01:48] <Huscurian> I booted in insecure mode, still got the white text/black background.
[01:49] <nhyl> daftykins, 352.41 is the graphics drivers (it says tested, also happening when i install the 340 driver), ubuntu version is 15.10 beta2, but it also happenend on 15.04 etc
[01:49] <^Ocean^> daftykins tried there and in ~user/
[01:49] <daftykins> nhyl: ok, unfortunately wily help isn't in here, it's in #ubuntu+1 - but i think using encryption with that is a no go.
[01:49] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: so you've defined a site file which has the document root in ~/ ?
[01:50] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: pastebin your default site from /etc/apache/sites-available/
[01:50] <nhyl> daftykins, yeah but it is happening also when i install the lts version or 15.04, so i dont think the beta version is the problem right?
[01:50] <wbill> goodevening isit normal when i do a finger to see a tty listed as root is that safe/secure?
[01:50] <daftykins> nhyl: maybe not but can't help you with unreleased releases
[01:51] <ubuntu___> DOes the bcmwl source also build firmware?
[01:52] <wbill> the listing in finger is *tty1 and *ttymxc0
[01:53] <russ5811> anyone know of any problems with usb 3.0 speeds in 15.04?
[01:53] <ubuntu___> It's like watching a fibbonaci sequence.
[01:53] <Kramerboy> Hello, I am using nvidia-352 and nvidia-prime and only have one resoultion of 1920x1080 when launching any OpenGL game. However, I am able to switch resolutions in the Display settings. Is there anything I can do to fix this problem? Some examples of not being able to switch resolutions in-game are Briquolo and SuperTuxKart.
[01:54] <Rexter> Russ5811, Linux started supporting USB 3.0 in the September 2009 release of the 2.6.31 kernel, and Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala was the first version of Ubuntu to support USB 3.0.
[01:54] <ubuntu___> Something like gallium on every chipset. Looks like a fib.
[01:55] <daftykins> russ5811: why what're you having issues with?
[01:55] <ubuntu___> As far as usb speeds goes same thing.
[01:56] <ubuntu___> It is fairly stable. Inside its a swirl of words like gentoo. So someobody has to be doing something to keep ubuntu running. I downloaded updates and it quickly reaches 36GB of jumble.
[01:57] <ubuntu___> I'd like to see if a human really codes any of it.
[01:58] <daftykins> ubuntu___: none of what you're saying is relevant here i'm afraid, this is a support channel only - chat is over in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:58] <ubuntu___> Does the bcmwl-kernel-source include firmware of is b43fwcutter still required?
[01:59] <daftykins> i can link you to the broadcom page but can't answer your questions
[01:59] <daftykins> !broadcom
[01:59] <Huscurian> daftykins: I wonder if you received my messages earlier.
[01:59] <russ5811> daftykins: I'm transferring about 800GB of data from an SSD to a usb 3.0 external hdd. it's definitely a usb 3.0 port. my speeds are maxing out at 70mb/s
[02:00] <daftykins> Huscurian: oh yeah, hmm nothing to add really - installing whilst booted as EFI won't result in being able to use both together - could convert it afterwards i guess, but that'd be a hassle
[02:00] <daftykins> russ5811: could be limited by the hard disk if it isn't a good one
[02:01] <Huscurian> Yeah, that's true.  I have tried partitioning the drive to X:]
[02:01] <Huscurian> and when I saved it, I rebooted and found that Windows and Ubuntu were dual booted.
[02:01] <russ5811> it's a seagate...just bought it an hour ago
[02:01] <daftykins> Huscurian: why bother? ubuntu can't be installed to windows NTFS formatted drives
[02:01] <srged> How can I boost my alfa card which has a 5bdi antenna? should i buy a 9dbi antenna or better an amplifier?
[02:01] <Huscurian> What kind of drives could Ubuntu be installed to?
[02:01] <daftykins> srged: that's not ubuntu support, ##networking might be better
[02:02] <daftykins> Huscurian: they must be partitions formatted with Linux file systems such as ext4
[02:02] <ubuntu___> daftykins do you know anything about it?
[02:02] <daftykins> ubuntu___: 'it' ?
[02:02] <ubuntu___> Does the bcmwl-kernel-source include firmware of is b43fwcutter still required?
[02:03] <Huscurian> If I partition as ext4, could it still allow a dual boot?
[02:03] <daftykins> ubuntu___: did you miss the bit where i said i can't answer that, but could link you to the broadcom page?
[02:03] <ubuntu___> sure
[02:04] <daftykins> Huscurian: none of this needs to be done because the ubuntu installer would do it, but your problem is larger - as if you're booting EFI it's not going to work
[02:04] <daftykins> Huscurian: so what brand of motherboard is this?
[02:04] <Huscurian> I am not booting EFI
[02:04] <russ5811> daftykins: thanks for trying to help. i appreciate it.
[02:04] <Huscurian> It's been booted as Legacy.  I also booted from PNY, not UEFI PNY
[02:04] <daftykins> Huscurian: ah so it's working!
[02:04] <Huscurian> I had to do a boot override.
[02:04] <ubuntu___> that is what highlights are used for
[02:04] <Huscurian> But it still booted me into insecure mode.
[02:05] <daftykins> Huscurian: insecure doesn't matter, only windows 8 and 10 use secure boot
[02:05] <Huscurian> OK
[02:05] <Huscurian> Then I noticed that I have Ubuntu OS, a NTFS partition.  Should I delete that and change it to ext4?
[02:05] <daftykins> ubuntu___: i thought it was pretty obvious, you talking about broadcom... me talking about broadcom...
[02:06] <daftykins> Huscurian: where do you see that?
[02:06] <ubuntu___> it is exploitable daftykins
[02:06] <Huscurian> GParted
[02:06] <Huscurian> I want to use that.
[02:06] <ubuntu___> many presumptions are exploitable daftykins
[02:06] <Huscurian> It's /dev/sda3, 108.64 GiB
[02:06] <Huscurian> Sorry, my bad.
[02:06] <daftykins> Huscurian: i saw you have two SSDs and a 2TB disk, all you need to do is run the installer now and pick some empty space to put it on
[02:06] <^Ocean^> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/bjCchgQN
[02:07] <daftykins> Huscurian: you need to leave the spot you want to install to as empty space, don't create a partition there
[02:07] <ubuntu___> the joker can have the whole town on moral exploit daftykins , happy comic book day
[02:07] <Huscurian> All right.  There's 3 partitions right now.
[02:07] <ubuntu___> the days are evil daftykins
[02:07] <daftykins> ubuntu___: you're chatting what to me, is a bunch of irrelevant rubbish - so i'd appreciate you stopping now if you don't mind.
[02:07] <Huscurian> But unallocated has 2.46 MiB.
[02:07] <Huscurian> This would not be a problem?
[02:08] <ubuntu___> daftykins: preferr beeps?
[02:08] <daftykins> Huscurian: can you use the print-screen key then firefox to throw a screenshot up on imgur.com ?
[02:08] <Huscurian> Sure
[02:08] <daftykins> ubuntu___: i prefer hearing support questions only, or nothing.
[02:09] <ubuntu___> daftykins: can this thing playthrough the speakers from line in?
[02:10] <daftykins> 'this thing' ?
[02:10] <Huscurian> Pming you
[02:10] <Huscurian> daftykins: Check your message.
[02:11] <daftykins> Huscurian: it's not really sensitive data
[02:11] <Huscurian> Ah OK
[02:11] <Huscurian> http://imgur.com/Rn7Bu4C then this is the link
[02:12] <ubuntu___> daftykins: are you a slow learner?
[02:12] <Huscurian> daftykins: I want to put Ubuntu into Ubuntu OS because it has the memory.
[02:12] <daftykins> ubuntu___: congrats, ignored for being an asshole
[02:12] <daftykins> Huscurian: hmm, one sec just matching up your image with the earlier pastebin
[02:13] <daftykins> so many disks :D
[02:13] <Huscurian> daftykins: sure
[02:14] <daftykins> Huscurian: alright i think what i've getting is that /dev/sdb is your second 120GB SSD with Windows on it, then /dev/sda which you screenshot'd there is the one that maybe WUBI was on - but is no longer
[02:14] <daftykins> *i'm getting
[02:14] <Kramerboy> Hello, I am using nvidia-352 and nvidia-prime under Ubuntu 15.04 and only have one resoultion of 1920x1080 when launching any OpenGL game. However, I am able to switch resolutions in the Display settings. Is there anything I can do to fix this problem? Some examples of not being able to switch resolutions in-game are Briquolo and SuperTuxKart.
[02:14] <Huscurian> wubi used to be on sda3 but is no longer there.
[02:14] <daftykins> mmm that 117GB space
[02:14] <Huscurian> Yeah
[02:15] <daftykins> so what's sda2?
[02:15] <Huscurian> I want to make sure that Ubuntu can be installed there
[02:15] <daftykins> 3GB is a bit small
[02:15] <Huscurian> That's a secondary drive and won't be doable
[02:15] <daftykins> and then sda1 looks like the boot partition from a windows 7 install
[02:15] <Huscurian> And sda2/sda3 used to be whole partitions
[02:15] <Huscurian> But I split them in the middle eto give Ubuntu OS more memory
[02:16] <ubuntu___> link the site
[02:16] <daftykins> ah ok, so you don't need sda2? "Tertiary Drive"
[02:16] <Huscurian> Yeah
[02:16] <Huscurian> I just want sda3 to hold Ubuntu
[02:17] <Huscurian> I right-clicked and it said Format to.  I can format it to ext4
[02:17] <daftykins> right, this disk setup is a bit messy right now - because sda1 is the boot data for the win7 install on sdb :(
[02:17] <Huscurian> Yeah
[02:17] <daftykins> how old is the windows 7 install?
[02:17] <daftykins> did you just put it on today, or?
[02:17] <Huscurian> About 3-4 years ago, I believe
[02:17] <daftykins> ah ok so you've got plenty of important stuff there
[02:17] <Huscurian> Yeah
[02:17] <daftykins> right, use gparted and delete both sda2 and sda3
[02:17] <daftykins> then hit the green tick to apply
[02:18] <Huscurian> If I delete, would it affect the partition?
[02:18] <Huscurian> For windows 7?
[02:18] <daftykins> nope because the boot data is sda1 and the windows install is on sdb - the whole other disk
[02:19] <Huscurian> Ok, deleted the partitions
[02:19] <Huscurian> Green tick is next to the red arrow crooked to the left, right?
[02:19] <daftykins> nah it's further right from it
[02:19] <daftykins> unless it moved it when the option became available
[02:20] <Huscurian> I deleted them
[02:20] <Huscurian> And when I went to the green "Check", it said "Apply all Operations"
[02:20] <Huscurian> Is this the one you're referring to?
[02:20] <daftykins> yep
[02:20] <daftykins> that'll do the trick
[02:20] <Huscurian> z
[02:20] <daftykins> it should've reloaded gparted now and it should see that just sda1 is on sda
[02:20] <daftykins> (once you click close)
[02:20] <Huscurian> OK
[02:21] <daftykins> now you can close gparted and run the installer
[02:21] <daftykins> (the icon on the desktop of course)
[02:22] <Huscurian> I'm trying to access gparted right now
[02:22] <daftykins> Huscurian: well, we were done with it anyway really
[02:22] <Huscurian> OK
[02:22] <Huscurian> Then install
[02:23] <Huscurian> It says
[02:23] <daftykins> yep, now during this you need to make sure when the partitioning stage comes, that you select "Something else"
[02:23] <daftykins> it'll talk about installing beside Windows, but "Something else" will be the one to pick
[02:23] <Huscurian> "The machine's firmware has started the installer in UEFI but it loks like there may be existing operating system already installed using "BIOS compatibility mode".
[02:24] <daftykins> o0
[02:24] <Huscurian> It goes on to give tow buttons: "Go Back", "Continue in UEFI mode"
[02:24] <daftykins> ah sounds like it didn't boot as legacy at all then :(
[02:24] <user_> ok
[02:24] <Huscurian> Yeah, sounds like it.  I did boot from Legacy ROM and forced a boot of PNY, not UEFI PNY but..
[02:24] <Huscurian> It seems like it still is in UEFI mode
[02:25] <daftykins> mmm how annoying
[02:25] <Huscurian> Yep, very annoying
[02:25] <daftykins> i don't think you ever mentioned the motherboard brand?
[02:25] <Huscurian> One sceond
[02:25] <Huscurian> let me get my technical manual
[02:26] <user_> why
[02:26] <Huscurian> OK
[02:27] <Huscurian> daftykins: mobo brand is Maximus IV Extreme-Z
[02:27] <daftykins> ah so it's an Asus
[02:27] <daftykins> ok, so F8 is usually the boot menu key
[02:27] <Huscurian> Yes, it is
[02:27] <Huscurian> OK
[02:27] <daftykins> but you did already see the flash drive listed with no EFI in it, just make sure it's not in a USB 3 port
[02:28] <Huscurian> It's not.
[02:28] <daftykins> then try it again perhaps
[02:28] <Huscurian> I'll try again and see what happens
[02:28] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: sorry i got distracted there, can you pastebin the output of " dpkg -l | grep apache" ?
[02:28] <Huscurian> See you in a sec
[02:28] <Jaglor>  daftykins: Why can it not be in a USB3 port?
[02:29] <daftykins> it was just a thought of why it could be misbehaving, i don't have any reason in mind
[02:31] <chaos7theory> Is there an Ubuntu release that's a rolling release yet?
[02:31] <daftykins> don't think so
[02:33] <^Ocean^> daftykins: any ideas what im missing ?
[02:33] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: well can you pastebin the above command?
[02:33] <Huscurian> daftykins: I did the F8 boot and used PNY
[02:34] <daftykins> still white text on black?
[02:34] <Huscurian> I entered and found that I'm at the Ubuntu screen with the white logo, text, and black background
[02:34] <Huscurian> but not the white text/ black background with the white box
[02:34] <daftykins> ah har
[02:34] <daftykins> so it asked you to pick a language?
[02:34] <Huscurian> I don't think so
[02:35] <daftykins> if you run the installer it might show the warning again if it's EFI booted
[02:35] <Huscurian> daftykins: trying the installer right now
[02:35] <^Ocean^> daftykins sorry which command ?
[02:36] <trelane> this may sound like an idiotic question, but do I have to do anything additional with /etc/network/interfaces in 14.04 to bring them up on boot other than just specifying them?  I manually brought them up with ifup after boot fine, but they aren't starting on boot.
[02:36] <Huscurian> daftykins: I pressed Continue and no UEFI error showed up just yet.
[02:36] <trelane> is there something in /etc/default, or similar I'm missing?
[02:36] <daftykins> Huscurian: hmm might be in luck
[02:36] <Huscurian> It's still running, the Continue button is darkened.
[02:36] <ctunoku> Um... I was dual-booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu (through grub), and when I upgraded to Windows 10, I got a grub rescue prompt. I tried Boot-repair, but it doesn't seem to have done anything. URL is http://paste.ubuntu.com/12607774/. Any advice?
[02:36] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: "dpkg -l | grep apache" on a http://paste.ubuntu.com please
[02:36] <Huscurian> daftykins: just might be!  :P
[02:37] <Huscurian> OK
[02:37] <Huscurian> I'm at the screen.
[02:37] <Huscurian> It says the computer has multiple OS on it
[02:37] <daftykins> excellent
[02:37] <Huscurian> Install Ubuntu alongside it?
[02:37] <daftykins> and it should have the 'something else' at the bottom
[02:37] <Huscurian> It does
[02:37] <Huscurian> Click on that?
[02:38] <daftykins> yep
[02:38] <daftykins> then next
[02:38] <^Ocean^> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/Seeppsrs
[02:38] <Huscurian> OK, it shows the spaces
[02:38] <daftykins> Huscurian: at the lower left, does it have a box referring to where to install GRUB? with /dev/sda selected ?
[02:38] <Huscurian> sda1 and sdc1 are Windows 7 loaders
[02:38] <wileee> ctunoku, You upgraded the live usb?
[02:39] <ctunoku> wileee: I'm not sure, what do you mean?
[02:39] <Huscurian> It says it should be installed to dev/sda ATA OCZ VERTEX PLUS (120.0 GB)
[02:39] <Huscurian> Device for boot loader installation:
[02:39] <daftykins> Huscurian: sounds good, do you know how much RAM you have?
[02:39] <Huscurian> Is what it asks for
[02:39] <Huscurian> 16GB ram
[02:39] <daftykins> ok and are you likely ever to use sleep or hibernate?
[02:40] <Huscurian> No.  It'll sleep by itself and I never sleep or hibernate much
[02:40] <Huscurian> I have to say something.  sda1 and sdc1 are windows 7 loaders
[02:40] <daftykins> it won't be able to sleep unless you partition the disk correctly now
[02:40] <Huscurian> But sdb1 is not.
[02:40] <daftykins> yeah that's ok
[02:40] <daftykins> i spotted this all before
[02:40] <daftykins> your disk layout is quite a mess, but it won't prevent things from working
[02:41] <Huscurian> OK
[02:41] <Huscurian> then sda right?
[02:41] <^Ocean^> daftykins: and i have modded php5.conf and commented out the lines to disable php execution in userdir
[02:41] <daftykins> so essentially sleep won't be an option unless you make a specific partition for ubuntu the size of your RAM (or larger)
[02:41] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: hrmm perhaps your modifications have caused this
[02:41] <wileee> ctunoku, hmm, sorry, just a bit of a mess, I see efi in sda and msdos on others, no real help here.
[02:41] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: have you run "a2enmod php" ?
[02:42] <Huscurian> daftykins: one second
[02:43] <^Ocean^> daftykins: yup, its enabled
[02:44] <^Ocean^> php works in /var/www/html/
[02:44] <^Ocean^> just not in ~
[02:44] <daftykins> oh i thought you said it didn't
[02:44] <daftykins> why are you trying to make it work in a user dir anyway? :)
[02:44] <daftykins> want easy scp access?
[02:45] <Huscurian> OK
[02:45] <Huscurian> I did a GB to MB converter
[02:45] <daftykins> oh you don't need to bother with any of that
[02:45] <Huscurian> 16384MB.  "New partition table?"
[02:46] <daftykins> no no, just select the unallocated space and create an 18,000MB partition and make it swap
[02:46] <^Ocean^> daftykins: well i guess i could log in as root, and upload all my pages to /var/www/html/  figured it would be better to work as a normal user...  never had an issue getting it working before, but last time i set up apache and php it was ubuntu 10
[02:46] <ctunoku> wileee: Ah, OK
[02:46] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: no you don't need to do that either, i'm shocked all your guides have been this bad :)
[02:47] <Huscurian> daftykins: I pressed + and found "Create Partition"
[02:47] <daftykins> ^Ocean^: add your user (not root, the normal user) to the group 'www-data' then chown your /var/www/html/ as www-data:www-data, change the group permissions to write, then your user can write to the standard document root
[02:47] <Huscurian> I added 18000 MB as you indicated.  It says Type for this new partition: Logical.  Location for Partition: Beginning of space.
[02:47] <daftykins> Huscurian: sounds good
[02:47] <daftykins> yep
[02:47] <Huscurian> Use as: Ext4 journaling file system
[02:47] <Huscurian> All good?
[02:47] <daftykins> nah use as swap
[02:48] <Huscurian> What about mount point?
[02:48] <Huscurian> Ok
[02:48] <daftykins> mount point will disappear once swap is selected
[02:48] <Huscurian> I clicked on "Swap area"
[02:48] <Huscurian> OK
[02:48] <daftykins> then hit ok
[02:48] <Huscurian> OK
[02:48] <Huscurian> sda5 swap showed up
[02:48] <Huscurian> 17998 MB
[02:48] <daftykins> now create another, this time select 20480 MB and make it ext4 with / as the mount point
[02:49] <tonyarkles> wileee: unetbootin was only overwriting the boot files and not the iso...
[02:49] <tonyarkles> the iso was just fine
[02:49] <Huscurian> OK, and stays the same for type: Logical, Location for new partiton: "Beginning of space"?
[02:49] <tonyarkles> after doing a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[02:49] <Huscurian> I did the / for mount
[02:49] <daftykins> tonyarkles: ugh unetbootin's fault all along eh? i always avoid that one for the dramas it causes
[02:49] <tonyarkles> evertyhing worked
[02:50] <tonyarkles> daftykins: yup
[02:50] <ubuntu___> I want to use this for networking but there is always something broke.
[02:50] <tonyarkles> i can't believe it
[02:50] <daftykins> Huscurian: yep logical again, start of space
[02:50] <tonyarkles> at least i wasn't going insane :D
[02:50] <Huscurian> Great
[02:50] <daftykins> tonyarkles: :D
[02:50] <Huscurian> OKing it now
[02:50] <tonyarkles> someone was gaslighting me instead
[02:50] <rust> anyone interested here to talk about deep web ?
[02:50] <daftykins> Huscurian: and finally one more, all of the remaining space... ext4 and /home
[02:50] <Huscurian> sda6 ext4 is now showing up
[02:50] <daftykins> rust: no this is a support channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:51] <Huscurian> Got it
[02:51] <Huscurian> sda7 ext4 /home is made
[02:51] <daftykins> Huscurian: ok you're all set to hit the next button to keep installing now, should ask you the usual stuff like username, computer name, password - i'd recommend selecting to *NOT* install/download updates during installation
[02:51] <Huscurian> sda6 and sda7 are checked
[02:52] <Huscurian> is that normal?
[02:52] <daftykins> that'll be for the format bit i expect
[02:52] <daftykins> yeah fine
[02:52] <daftykins> 'cause they're new :)
[02:52] <Huscurian> OK
[02:52] <Huscurian> :)  Installing
[02:52] <Huscurian> I didn't click on download updates while installing
[02:52] <daftykins> cool
[02:52] <Huscurian> saysd, changes will be made to sda5, 6, and 7
[02:52] <Huscurian> I'm continuing...
[02:52] <daftykins> yep
[02:53] <Huscurian> All right
[02:53] <Huscurian> It's running rightn ow
[02:53] <Huscurian> Install Now button is greyed out
[02:53] <Huscurian> Map of US
[02:53] <Huscurian> Keyboard layout
[02:53] <Huscurian> Well, it seems like I'm on the right track
[02:54] <daftykins> yep, only thing left is to see it boot to a menu to pick ubuntu + windows 7 come the end
[02:54] <daftykins> (with the flash drive out of course)
[02:54] <daftykins> Huscurian: fwiw anyone who knows what they're doing will look at the disk layout and think "what the hell?!" but eh, it'll work ;)
[02:55] <Huscurian> daftykins: haha.
[02:55] <daftykins> Huscurian: personally i would've had just one of those SSDs connected when installing windows so that it had put all its' files on the single drive, not spread across two like it is now
[02:55] <daftykins> bit late now :>
[02:55] <Ragter> I have some questinos about btrfs. Is there anyone here who can help me out with it?
[02:55] <Huscurian> daftykins: when I build a new PC, it'll be setup to accept Windows and Linux the right way :P
[02:56] <Huscurian> OK
[02:56] <Huscurian> I did the username, password, computer name.
[02:57] <Huscurian> "Welcome to Ubuntu"
[02:58] <Huscurian> "Installing system"
[02:58] <daftykins> now the waiting game
[02:58] <Huscurian> daftykins: thanks for being so much help!
[02:58] <Huscurian> :)  Of course...  the patience game
[02:58] <daftykins> hehe, you're not out of the woods yet - but no problem
[02:58] <Huscurian> I hope I am out of the woods lol
[03:02] <Huscurian> Ubuntu is more secure than Windows 7?
[03:02] <daftykins> that's an awkward one to ask really
[03:02] <Huscurian> Yeah, it is.  Just curious though
[03:02] <daftykins> recent media events have shown that all OSs are vulnerable to people finding exploits in it all
[03:03] <Huscurian> Interesting.
[03:03] <daftykins> and there'll always be problems no matter what you run, so to my mind - you just run the OS you prefer picking up after the most
[03:03] <Huscurian> Yeah
[03:03] <Huscurian> That's a good way to put it
[03:03] <Huscurian> I wanted to learn more about using linux with a distro years ago.  This would be my first time breaking myself in
[03:04] <Huscurian> So I'm pretty happy with it right now.
[03:04] <daftykins> :)
[03:04] <Huscurian> Sometime down the road when I'm more developed as a programmer, I may go Fedora
[03:04] <Huscurian> complete with software development programs
[03:04] <Bashing-om> Huscurian: My 2 cents, wait, you will only get happier with linux .
[03:05] <Huscurian> Bashing-om: so strictly speaking, over time, I'll like Linux more?
[03:06] <Bashing-om> Huscurian: I am prejudiced . In my opinion linux is a programmers' dream, and 'buntu in particular .
[03:07] <Huscurian> Bashing-om: Interesting.  You're a programmer yourself?
[03:08] <bazhang> could we move this to the chat channel please
[03:09] <Huscurian> My bad.  The chat channel is where?  #ubuntu-chat?
[03:09] <daftykins> -offtopic
[03:09] <Bashing-om> Huscurian: In the past I have run sussie, slackware and knoppix .. when I was introduced to ubuntu. I was sold . support and documentation .
[03:09] <Huscurian> got it
[03:09] <bazhang> -discuss or -offtopic both work, thanks
[03:10] <Huscurian> Yeah, sorry for being off-topic
[03:17] <Huscurian> daftykins: installation is done.  It's now asking me to "Continue Testing" or "Restart Now"
[03:17] <Huscurian> It should come across a dual boot screen, correct?
[03:17] <daftykins> hit continue testing then shutdown, remove the flash drive then power back on
[03:17] <daftykins> should go to a menu kinda like the white text on black background one, yeah
[03:17] <Huscurian> OK./
[03:17] <Huscurian> I'll do that and let you know if it works.
[03:18] <Huscurian> BRB
[03:21] <Archyme> I have a thumb drive named "thumb 1". I get a "no such file or directory" error when I try cd thumb 1, cd thumb_1 etc... What am I missing?
[03:21] <daftykins> Archyme: use tab complete?
[03:22] <nemith> Archyme: cd "thumb 1
[03:22] <nemith> "
[03:22] <nemith> or cd thumb\ 1
[03:23] <Archyme> nemith, thanks that worked... i wasn't aware i needed the \
[03:23] <Archyme> daftykins, thanks for your help as well!
[03:23] <daftykins> :)
[03:23] <Archyme> I will now change the name to "thumb1" and learn never to use spaces!
[03:24] <daftykins> good stuff :D
[03:25] <Archyme> is a "\" always required before a space?
[03:25] <huscurian> daftykins: no dual boot
[03:26] <huscurian> I restarted, press F8, then joined OCZ Vertex Plus myself
[03:26] <huscurian> I then entered Ubuntu via a purple background with "*Ubuntu"
[03:26] <daftykins> what does it do when you don't interrupt at all?
[03:26] <huscurian> It jsut takes me straight to Windows 7
[03:26] <daftykins> ah ok
[03:26] <daftykins> well that's easily resolved i should think
[03:27] <huscurian> How do we get this resolved?
[03:27] <huscurian> Jsut set Vertex Plus as the first boot?
[03:27] <huscurian> Because it did show Windows 7 (loader) in the Ubuntu boot screen
[03:27] <daftykins> does it not give you a menu when doing that?
[03:27] <daftykins> oh right
[03:27] <daftykins> yeah, so you could just swap the SATA cables too
[03:27] <daftykins> whichever you prefer
[03:27] <huscurian> OK
[03:28] <huscurian> I'll just set the boot via BIOS, restart, and eventually have it that way myself
[03:28] <daftykins> *nod*
[03:30] <Guest80960> hi
[03:32] <daftykins> lo
[03:34] <OneM_Industries> How do I search by name of process in top(the command)
[03:34] <OneM_Industries> ?
[03:35] <daftykins> why search in top?
[03:35] <daftykins> ps -ef | grep <process>
[03:37] <Jaglor> OneM_Industries: 'h' in top will get you to help where you can determine if you are looking for a sort or a locate
[03:37] <OneM_Industries> Thank you~
[03:37] <OneM_Industries> !*
[03:38] <OneM_Industries> I am attempting to work on another Ubuntu box via SSH, and I need to find a process ID so I can kill it.
[03:39] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: and which are you after?
[03:39] <OneM_Industries> Ah ha!
[03:39] <OneM_Industries> Found an killed!
[03:39] <OneM_Industries> and*
[03:39] <daftykins> yay
[03:41] <Jaglor> OneM_Industries: top is usually not the most direct path for that
[03:41] <toothe> anyone gotten GHDL working?
[03:41] <toothe> installed*
[03:42] <OneM_Industries> Note to devs: if you make a program have repeating error codes, do not use the beeper to display the error codes.
[03:43] <daftykins> (i don't think the devs are reading ;) )
[03:43] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, true.
[03:43] <Jaglor> At least no devs that do that  ;)
[03:44] <toothe> i manually added a repo, but it doesn't seem to install.
[03:44] <toothe> I get a 404, not found error.
[03:45] <daftykins> PPA you mean?
[03:45] <daftykins> maybe it's bad / for another version
[03:51] <lex_> helo all I am trying to install lubuntu and i need to manually enter the repository url.  If i want to use "ftp.ussg.iu.edu" what  do use for directory example "/linux/ubuntu/dists/trusty/"  ?
[03:53] <daftykins> lex_: why specifically that one?
[03:54] <lex_> It seems to work when i click on it,  i am getting stuck when it tries download.
[03:54] <daftykins> does lubuntu not have the GUI program to switch repos?
[03:54] <daftykins> or mirrors, rather
[03:55] <lex_> It limits me to Greatbriton and i am getting timed out,
[03:55] <lex_> what do i put for archive mirror directory?
[03:55] <lex_> ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu/dists/trusty/
[03:59] <daftykins> lex_: tried http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ ?
[03:59] <daftykins> handy repo configurator ;)
[04:03] <lex_> it gave me this deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main
[04:03] <lex_> it doe snot worl
[04:03] <lex_> This is what i use for the mirror host:  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:04] <lex_> I used this for the directory : /ubuntu/ trusty main
[04:04] <aurorauser> how would I rename a bunch of files that have the same prefix
[04:04] <aurorauser> like 192.168.1.3.bat, 192.168.1.3.exe, 192.168.1.3.doc
[04:05] <aurorauser> to 192.168.1.4.bat, etc
[04:05] <huscurian> daftykins: already set the boot.  :)  Now I'm satisfied.
[04:05] <huscurian> Question.  Am I out of the woods?  :P
[04:06] <daftykins> huscurian: if both boot, sure
[04:07] <huscurian> daftykins: I'll check Windows 7 when I get back from my walk
[04:21] <huscurian> is there a linux version for adobe flash player?
[04:21] <huscurian> nvm
[04:31] <Abe> huscurian: yes there is
[04:31] <Fudge> HI WHERE DO YOU PASS BOOT PARAMTERS, JSUT AT THE BOOT MENU FROM LIVE MEDIA OR DO YOU HAVE TO PUSH ESCAPE FIRST ETC
[04:40] <daftykins> Fudge: whatever brings up the menu so you can hit 'e' to edit, please don't use caps
[04:40] <Fudge> oh,sorry didnt realise
[04:41] <Fudge> right so 'e' offers the prompt. great, thanks for that
[04:42] <daftykins> well it edits the line, once you've got the menu up
[04:42] <daftykins> really depends whether you're booting media EFI or legacy
[04:43] <Abe> Hey I hate watching movies when the music in movies are  always is so freakin loud and the voices are so quietly that you can't hear anything... Is there a method of equalizing it???? using a lubuntu atm
[04:45] <Abe> always have to force the volume up and down on my speakers which is very annoying :(
[04:45] <daftykins> it's probably a case of listening to a surround feed on stereo
[04:45] <Fudge> daftykins:  this is a travelmate 2300 so no EFI
[04:45] <Fudge> Abe:  try kodi maybe, they have plugins to normalise the entire movie
[04:46] <Fudge> think the ppa is ppa:xbmc-team/ppa
[04:46] <Abe> thank you Fudge kodi is a program? just have to install it?
[04:46] <wafflejock> yeah Abe the term you're looking for is normalizing or normalising the volume level, it basically makes quiet stuff louder and louder stuff quieter to even things out
[04:46] <wafflejock> Abe: kodi is a program it's the new version of something that used to be called xbmc
[04:47] <Abe> yes I need something like that so just adding the ppa and then sudo apt-get isntall what?
[04:47] <Abe> kodi right?
[04:48] <Abe> ok thx very much I am going to try it out right now
[04:48] <Fudge> yes, kodi is the meta package which will bring everything in, i suggest you goole for youtube kodi demo or something Abe
[04:48] <daftykins> no Kodi doesn't have any EQ yet
[04:48] <daftykins> no point going there :)
[04:48] <Abe> ok daftykins how to equalize anybody experience the same problem like me?
[04:49] <wafflejock> daftykins: Fudge said it has some normalization option, never used that option myself but normalization should solve the problem
[04:49] <daftykins> mmm i don't think so
[04:49] <Abe> so should I go with Kodi yes or No?
[04:49] <daftykins> you can try but i don't think it'll do the job for you
[04:50] <daftykins> can you confirm you're playing something with a 5.1 track decoded to stereo?
[04:50] <Abe> No it's all just stereo not surround
[04:51] <Abe> back in the day when I used Windows I found an option like that can't remember what it was called though
[04:51] <wafflejock> Abe: ah VLC has some compressor options in the tools
[04:51] <daftykins> okie dokie
[04:53] <Abe> well I am not watching stuff over the vlc player just Internet. so I need something that equalizes basically everything ?
[04:53] <wafflejock> Abe: http://www.torrent-invites.com/showthread.php?t=194840 <-- that has instructions to get you to the menu that has the controls.... don't think you'll find something that sits on top of pulse to do it really... maybe... who knows
[04:54] <wafflejock> hmmm http://askubuntu.com/questions/95716/automatically-adjust-the-volume-based-on-content maybe
[04:54] <daftykins> oh sounds like the source is at fault to begin with
[04:55] <Abe> LADSPA plugin... have to try it out...
[04:56] <Abe> wait wait
[04:56]  * daftykins waits
[04:57] <Abe> does lubuntu even use pulseaudio?
[04:57] <Abe> ^^
[04:57] <daftykins> pass
[04:58] <Abe> wait have to look on that lubuntu pc
[05:01] <Abe> ok it is ok I'll try it out
[05:03] <john> ok I'm sitting on that lubuntu pc now
[05:03] <Guest23008> so I'm Abe just with different Nickname
[05:04] <Guest23008> what do you guys think about that here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72679/is-there-any-sound-enhancers-equalizer
[05:04] <Guest23008> pulseaudio equalizer?
[05:05] <Fudge> i couldnt find in my logs where i was told sorry
[05:05] <Fudge> look on the wiki for kodi
[05:06] <Guest23008> daftykins: said kodi wouldn't help
[05:06] <Fudge> I am pretty sure it has the feature, I was told about it and used it but cant find in my logs what it is called, kodi.wiki up to you if you wwant to look further into it
[05:08] <Guest23008> Fudge: when u used it. did it help? did you used the programm of the same reason?
[05:08] <Guest23008> for*
[05:08] <Fudge> i was already using it and yes it helped, but that was xbmc and ive just started using it again and it has changed to being called kodi, it is skin dependant, i suggest you have a play with it and some reading
[05:09] <Guest23008> ok I will take a look at it thank you
[05:09] <shoerain> does pulse audio have a sound test suite? left/right speakers, upper/lower ranges? i'm on 14.04
[05:16] <johndoe2> hello there :) any chance that ubuntu has changed mod_proxy/apache2 2.4.7 source code and has disabled one's ability to set ProxyAddHeaders Off ? I'm on a virgin 14.04, 64bit.
[05:18] <wafflejock> johndoe2: not sure about that but are you sure you enabled mod_proxy and mod_proxy_http if you need that?
[05:18] <Huscurian> daftykins: I rebooted.  I made it to Windows 7.  Thanks for everything.  I'm now out of the woods.
[05:18] <daftykins> 8D
[05:19] <daftykins> success is sweet
[05:19] <Huscurian> Very sweet
[05:19] <Guest23008> fuuu I added an outdated ppa now it doesn't want to go away with apt-add-repository --remove :/
[05:20] <daftykins> !ppapurge
[05:20] <daftykins> try ^
[05:20] <Guest23008> daftykins: I did this too it's still there :/
[05:20] <Guest23008> wait I get it somehow
[05:22] <Guest23008> thats what I added add-apt-repository ppa:psyke83/ppa
[05:22] <johndoe2> wafflejock yes, everything is fine, except for the fact that httpd creates X-Forwarded-* headers when it forwards the request to the ProxyPass. I'm sniffing the traffic using ngrep, and that's the point where those headers are created.
[05:23] <Huscurian> daftykins: when they come out with a new update, you do sudo apt-get update ubuntu right?
[05:27] <daftykins> Huscurian: you mean like 15.10 ? nope
[05:28] <Huscurian> daftykins: yes.  So how does one update Ubuntu when it comes out?
[05:28] <daftykins> the update manager program will spot it and offer it
[05:28] <shooter2kill> Hey all my question today is i have a progam that i installed called lan messenger it was a i386 program that i couldnt get to work how do i go about removing that
[05:28] <Huscurian> Is that Software Updater?
[05:28] <Huscurian> I looked for a update manager but there's none
[05:28] <daftykins> yeah, when the time comes it'll be obvious
[05:29] <hateball> Huscurian: you can issue do-release-upgrade in a terminal if that's more to your liking
[05:29] <Huscurian> so 'sudo do-release-upgrade' and that's it?
[05:29] <Huscurian> What does it do?  It upgrades Ubuntu when it offers itself on the spot right away?
[05:29] <nathanesau1> I'm currently installing ubuntu 14.04 but don't see a progress bar for the install. Any ideas on how I can find out whether or not the install is working?
[05:30] <daftykins> just rely on the GUI prog offering you it once it gets released
[05:30] <Huscurian> OK
[05:30] <daftykins> nathanesau1: is the window overlapping the bottom of the screen maybe?
[05:30] <jokersmile_woo> just got alsamixer working.  no sound in youtube. lubuntu 15.04.
[05:31] <ryan_56> i had the same issue with my PC, my laptop installed fine but my PC went black and didn't progress, just going to format the USB
[05:31] <jokersmile_woo> acer apsire v5 122p 0869
[05:31] <nathanesau1> like this @daftykins http://postimg.org/image/p4gu82b8h/
[05:31] <Guest23008> Hello again I'm trying to remove the ppa from deleting it here /etc/apt/sources.list.d but I don't have permissions :/ how do I gain permissions to do it?
[05:32] <daftykins> nathanesau1: weird it doesn't have the lower portion with the progress bar, tried dragging from the bottom edge?
[05:32] <daftykins> Guest23008: you can either run nautilus with gksu, or do it via the terminal with sudo
[05:33] <nathanesau1> yes - cant do so. will ubuntu prompt me when install is finished?
[05:33] <daftykins> nathanesau1: it might not even be doing anything, tough call
[05:35] <daftykins> personally i'd look for a disk light, or check CPU usage
[05:35] <daftykins> you should be able to run the system monitor from there
[05:35] <Guest23008> sudo worked duh ^^
[05:35] <Guest23008> thx daftykins
[05:35] <daftykins> np :)
[05:35] <shooter2kill> Hey all i installed a program called lan messenger i wish to remove it but dont know how can anyone help please
[05:36] <daftykins> shooter2kill: dpkg -l | grep messenger
[05:36] <daftykins> see if you get any results with the package name
[05:36] <nathanesau1> should i just end the ubiquity process and restart it?
[05:36] <daftykins> nathanesau1: that should work ja
[05:37] <shooter2kill> dafty do i need to do sudo apt-get remove dpkg -l | grep messenger
[05:38] <daftykins> no identify the package first with just the portion i typed
[05:38] <shooter2kill> ok
[05:38] <shooter2kill> nothing comes up
[05:38] <daftykins> try a few combinations of 'lan' etc to see if it comes up at all
[05:38] <daftykins> hard to tell what the name might be
[05:38] <daftykins> if you installed it recently, it might be in your apt history.log too
[05:39] <shooter2kill> could you show me how to do that...
[05:39] <daftykins> "dpkg -l | grep lan"
[05:40] <daftykins> or you can have a read then of /var/log/apt/history.log
[05:41] <nathanesau1> @daftykins I did that and its working i think (i have the progress bar now)
[05:41] <daftykins> \o/
[05:41] <daftykins> definitely sounds more normal :)
[05:41] <shooter2kill> yea cant see anything with the dpkg -l | grep lan
[05:41] <daftykins> shooter2kill: mmm try the log
[05:41] <shooter2kill> ok
[05:41] <shooter2kill> is the log under usr
[05:42] <daftykins> see the path above
[05:42] <shooter2kill> got ya
[05:50] <Guest23008> Sorry Kodi is not what I am looking for. this is a media player not specifically an equalizer
[05:51] <Guest23008> I have to look more into that Ladspa plugin
[05:52] <AldenIsZen> Anyone have a reccomendation for a decent inexpensive VPN?
[05:53] <penos> wuts VPN
[05:55] <daftykins> AldenIsZen: not really on topic for here
[05:56] <shooter2kill> dafty i cant find anything with lan that looks like lan messenger in that log mate
[05:56] <daftykins> hmm, you sure it installed at all?
[05:56] <daftykins> i'd just leave it maybe :) probably isn't large enough to do any harm
[05:56] <daftykins> or maybe synaptic package manager could be an easier way to spot it
[05:57] <shooter2kill> thing is ...it isnt working but i get a message at startup that says its on ..lol
[05:57] <daftykins> o0
[05:58] <daftykins> shooter2kill: hmm, is it called lmc? "dpkg -l | grep lmc"
[05:58] <shooter2kill> the prob with the progam is that its a i386 package i tried to get working ...on my 64bit machine that didnt work
[05:58] <daftykins> (just guesses based on googling)
[05:58] <shooter2kill> cool cool
[05:58] <shooter2kill> trying
[05:59] <shooter2kill> ok
[05:59] <shooter2kill> that seem to work
[05:59] <daftykins> should be a package name on the left given
[06:00] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/638339/how-to-launch-lan-messenger-in-ubuntu-14-04
[06:00] <shooter2kill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12608989/
[06:00] <daftykins> should be as simple as "sudo apt-get purge lmc" if not, "sudo apt-get purge lmc:i386"
[06:01] <daftykins> try the link above for if it helps run it though
[06:01] <shooter2kill> ok great thanks
[06:01] <shooter2kill> yea i did all that
[06:01] <shooter2kill> but didnt work had someone on here helping me ....but after a long battle we couldnt get it to run
[06:01] <daftykins> ah ok :)
[06:02] <shooter2kill> ok that seem to work mate.
[06:02] <shooter2kill> when trying to remove a program should i be using the "remove" or purge
[06:03] <daftykins> remove leaves config files left, purge will take out any config files too
[06:03] <daftykins> so it depends if you want the 'backup' of the configs to remain
[06:06] <shooter2kill> i see
[06:06] <shooter2kill> so a total remove ...use purge
[06:06] <shooter2kill> so had a drop out
[06:06] <shooter2kill> so a total remove ...use purge
[06:07] <Qwertie> Is it possible to upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 now?
[06:07] <daftykins> Qwertie: feel like living dangerously?
[06:07] <shooter2kill> is 15 a beta
[06:07] <daftykins> probably, with "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[06:07] <maxtimbo> hey, so I have an ssd with like 250gb and a 3.5" with 3T. I want to make it so the system has all the programs and configs on the ssd amd all the files like saves, images, documents, etc, on the 3.5". How should I go about doing this? Ubuntu15.04, btw.
[06:07] <daftykins> wouldn't recommend it though :)
[06:08] <daftykins> maxtimbo: install to the SSD, format the HDD as ext4, then just mount/symlink it to your media paths, e.g. ~/Pictures ~/Video etc
[06:09] <shooter2kill> dafty im running 14.10 should i be using 15?
[06:09] <Qwertie> daftykins, I cant wait >.< I want libre office 5
[06:09] <Guest23008> That equalizer works but it doesn't make quiet things louder and louder thing more quiet
[06:10] <maxtimbo> daftykins, I've never heard of symlink before. I'll look into it. Thanks
[06:10] <Guest23008> I tried pulseaudio-equalizer
[06:10] <daftykins> shooter2kill: are you sure? 14.10 has been EOL for a number of months
[06:11] <daftykins> "cat /etc/issue" or "lsb_release -d" to confirm
[06:11] <the_map> what is "EOL"?
[06:12] <daftykins> !eol
[06:12] <the_map> thanks
[06:12] <shooter2kill> sorry 14.04
[06:13] <shooter2kill> im running 14.04 LTS
[06:13] <daftykins> yeah that's good 'til 2019
[06:13] <shooter2kill> ok sweet thanks
[06:14] <shooter2kill> what is the difference and why is there a 15 ?
[06:15] <daftykins> LTSs come every 2 years, (16.04 release 2016.April will be the next) the other releases are kinda experimental
[06:15] <sweb> i need filesystem can i store milions of files without limitation
[06:16] <daftykins> sweb: wikipedia would be a fine resource for picking file system based on limitations
[06:16] <shooter2kill> i see thanks that makes it easy so for me i should be looking at the LTS versions
[06:16] <shooter2kill> so im guessing 16.04 is a LTS
[06:17] <daftykins> yeah, LTS is where most people should be really. sometimes too new hardware requires newer releases to work properly though
[06:17] <shooter2kill> arhhh ok im with ya
[06:18] <brian|lfs> hello everyone question I did a Ubuntu server 15.04 install and have an encrypted swap on an lvm along with home and another partition
[06:19] <brian|lfs> when I boot up with the defualt kernel I"m unable to put my password in for my hhome and othher partition
[06:19] <brian|lfs> but am able to get in with recovery
[06:19] <brian|lfs> do I need to change all my lvms in fstab to UUIDs maybe?
[06:19] <brian|lfs> I'm rather confused
[06:25] <shooter2kill> daftykings: can you recommend anything on line i should be reading to understand ubuntu (linux) better
[06:26] <shooter2kill> for example i woul d have never know that to remove the program meant typing dpkg -l | grep lmc how does one learn this better
[06:30] <daftykins> shooter2kill: well technically that part was just to confirm it was that package installed
[06:31] <daftykins> not so sure on some guides tbh, i've just picked up things over the last 10+ years
[06:31] <daftykins> there's always the free edx.org Linux course i recommend people check out
[06:34] <shooter2kill> wow thats cool
[06:34] <shooter2kill> other thing i wanted to know more about was this.....
[06:35] <shooter2kill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12609090/
[06:35] <neck> Hi
[06:35] <aavrug> hello everyone
[06:36] <neck> I would like install winstricks in ubuntu 14.10 64 bits
[06:36] <aavrug> can any one tell me how to know memory allocation recursively of a directory?
[06:36] <neck> I have had everything that u have on the web
[06:37] <daftykins> shooter2kill: off topic distros there unfortunately
[06:37] <shooter2kill> off topic?
[06:37] <neck> what can I do to install correctly wine
[06:38] <shooter2kill> BackTrack or Kali are not talked about in here because its not ubuntu?
[06:38] <daftykins> correct
[06:39] <shooter2kill> i see
[06:46] <jquery> Hello
[07:01] <wafflejock> aavrug: can use the disk usage analyzer GUI
[07:01] <wafflejock> aavrug: alternatively I like ncdu for the terminal
[07:01] <aavrug> wafflejock, i got an alternate
[07:01] <aavrug> du -hs /dir/*
[07:01] <shooter2kill> hi all can i please get some advice on the best VMware for ubuntu thanks
[07:02] <aavrug> wafflejock, thanks
[07:02] <wafflejock> aavrug: yup np
[07:04] <shooter2kill> so im after virtual machine software for ubuntu can i be recommended softeare
[07:04] <shooter2kill> software
[07:05] <daftykins> vmware is pay for, you can try virtualbox instead
[07:05] <wafflejock> shooter2kill: haven't really done a lot of comparison but I use virtualbox and it's fine
[07:05] <shooter2kill> thanks waffle ...looks pretty good that will do thanks mate
[07:06] <wafflejock> np
[07:25] <vlt> Hello. What tool can I use to convert *.wps files to something readable like PDF?
[07:27] <jrix> Привет есть кто?
[07:28] <locksmith2> hi
[07:28] <locksmith2> zaderastvte
[07:28] <SCHAAP137> good morning
[07:29] <SCHAAP137> zdravsvujtye
[07:29] <Jackevansevo> vlt: a quick google shows there's a few online conversion tools, I've not had any experience with them though....
[07:29] <locksmith2> zrvjrdkski
[07:31] <the_map> locksmith2: can I buy a vowe?
[07:31] <the_map> *vowel
[07:32] <jrix> whether it is possible to find somewhere description of the main solutions for businesses running Linux? such as squid + Sams
[07:32] <vlt> Jackevansevo: But what tool can _I_ use? On my ubuntu machine? I can't send data to an online service to convert it.
[07:34] <Jackevansevo> vlt: can the file be opened in libreoffice/openoffice/wpsOffice and then be converted to PDF?
[07:35] <vlt> Jackevansevo: Unfortunately not :-/
[07:53] <akik> vlt: you ask for a tool and then say you can not use a tool
[07:55] <momken> Hello
[07:56] <momken> Whenever I attach my usb3 8GB flash drive to my PC I get this message:
[07:58] <momken> http://postimg.org/image/85ejxjkan/
[07:59] <momken> after seeing "dmesg | tail" I get this error: [  338.257304] FAT-fs (sdc1): IO charset iso8859-1 not found
[07:59] <momken> What is the problem? I could read it before, but after changing my mainboard I can't read it anymore
[08:10] <momken> Hello again. I updated my Ubuntu (security bug fixes) and it solved. Weird!!!
[08:14] <elosz_> any editors available for ubuntu such that i can directly edit file over my ssh connection? kind of what like notepad++ provides
[08:14] <elosz_> I mean i want to edit and save file directly on server instead of using scp to move it back and forth
[08:15] <Guest52686> oarli italiano
[08:16] <auronandace> !it | Guest52686
[08:17] <auronandace> elosz_: you can use terminal editors like nano, vim or emacs
[08:17] <elosz_> auronandace: something other than that:p
[08:20] <auronandace> elosz_: nano has almost no learning curve, it is about as basic as you can get for a file editor and it would be more efficient to use a terminal based editor over an ssh conection
[08:21] <elosz_> auronandace: yeah am using nano as of now. But I am accustomed to gedit
[08:21] <auronandace> elosz_: if your server has a gui then i guess you could use vnc over ssh
[08:22] <elosz_> i'll see auronandace .ty
[08:22] <auronandace> !vnc | elosz_
[08:24]  * ImQ009 sighs
[08:24] <ImQ009> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1082418
[08:24] <ImQ009> This bricked my laptop. Again
[08:24] <ImQ009> I thought this would've been fixed already :|
[08:26] <auronandace> ImQ009: no offence but how can you brick something again? if it got bricked then it becomes tottaly useless
[08:26] <ImQ009> auronandace, Okay, half-bricked :P
[08:29] <pHuNk3r5> hey guys running 15.04, restarted my laptop and the sound suddenly ain't working.  It has just updated the linux kernel may that be the cause?  alsamixer and the sound bar at top says there is sound
[08:33] <auronandace> !sound | pHuNk3r5
[08:34] <pHuNk3r5> auronandace, yeah it's okay realised it's just not playing in my browser
[08:57] <[Tahinihummus]> Hi all! could anybody explain me what do I have to do to install this https://github.com/rastersoft/panther_launcher ?
[08:57] <[Tahinihummus]> i dont quite understand... do I have to download the zip file, unzip it... then what? the instructions at the bottom of the page are not very clear, at least to me
[08:59] <k1l> [Tahinihummus]: its all explained on the site you linked. just scroll down. get to the directory where you unzipped it.
[08:59] <dionysus69> Test
[09:00] <k1l> [Tahinihummus]: or find a .deb package for it
[09:07] <lrdc> i want to change my keyboard shortcut, "menu key" into ctrl. can I do this with custom shortcut? http://i.imgur.com/mtx4UWw.png
[09:12] <pyro_serpent> hello
[09:13] <pyro_serpent> i need a little help
[09:13] <cfhowlett> !help | pyro_serpent
[09:15] <pyro_serpent> when I use goog chrome (not chromium) I face screen tearing issues. I have also posted about this on ubuntu forums. shall i post the link to that question here ?
[09:15] <pyro_serpent> *google
[09:17] <hateball> pyro_serpent: what GPU + driver are you using?
[09:18] <hateball> pyro_serpent: and where is the tearing noticeable, in videos or just scrolling static pages?
[09:18] <pyro_serpent> intel built in with my dell n5110 laptop
[09:18] <pyro_serpent> scrolling pages and youtube videos
[09:18] <pyro_serpent> when I play on my pc the screen tearing isnt there, nor in firefox
[09:20] <hateball> pyro_serpent: you could try enabling hardware rending in chrome I guess, see http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/enable-hardware-acceleration-in-chrome.html
[09:21] <pyro_serpent> I tried enabling hardware acceleration. No luck
[09:21] <hateball> pyro_serpent: No luck enabling, or no luck it working properly after?
[09:22] <pyro_serpent> no luck working properly even after enabling hardware acceleration. still screen tearing is present
[09:23] <pyro_serpent> here is the post on ubuntu forum, with a screenshot of my hardware http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2296026
[09:24] <carpediembaby> Hello, I have ubuntu 14.04 installed and the trackpad doesn't work anymore. It seems to be the case after an update. It sometimes comes back after a restart but now it seems to have been permanently gone. Could someone helps me restore the trackpad functionality?
[09:25] <linocisco> hi which photo editor software to resize image and change resolution?
[09:25] <linocisco> GIMP only?
[09:25] <hateball> pyro_serpent: well, if you browse to "chrome://gpu" does it say everything is enabled?
[09:25] <jpds> linocisco: Shotwell should do it
[09:26] <pyro_serpent> let me check, one min
[09:26] <cfhowlett> imagemagick
[09:26] <linocisco> jpds, I have shotwell. it can't resize to desired dimension
[09:28] <linocisco> cfhowlett, same. can't help
[09:29] <pyro_serpent> this is what it says: Graphics Feature Status
[09:29] <pyro_serpent> Canvas: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
[09:29] <pyro_serpent> Flash: Hardware accelerated
[09:29] <pyro_serpent> Flash Stage3D: Hardware accelerated
[09:29] <pyro_serpent> Flash Stage3D Baseline profile: Hardware accelerated
[09:29] <pyro_serpent> Compositing: Hardware accelerated
[09:29] <hateball> !screenshot
[09:29] <hateball> pyro_serpent: ^
[09:29] <cfhowlett> linocisco, imagemagick explicitly resizes ... http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/resize/
[09:30] <nutzz> I don't know why but I can't access any site from my browser, but I am able to connect and talk form irc. Is there a problem with my connection or with my computer?
[09:30] <SCHAAP137> nutzz: sounds like a DNS issue
[09:32] <pyro_serpent> here is what it says in chrome://gpu :http://imgur.com/sSFvkSW
[09:32] <nutzz> SCHAAP137: What should I do in orner to properly diagnose the problem and fix it?
[09:34] <aczx> (15.04) The NVIDIA kernel module on my system is 304.126, the driver component is 304.128, and I don't know how to update the kernel driver.
[09:34] <aczx> Sorry, 304.125, not 304.126.
[09:34] <hateball> pyro_serpent: Hmmm, looks good tho (same as me on this Intel machine). I wonder if upgrading mesa could help any...
[09:34] <Ben64> nutzz: can you access http://98.139.183.24
[09:34] <hateball> aczx: that's terribly outdated, you should have 346 with 15.04. Unless perhaps you are using an older piece of hardware
[09:35] <pyro_serpent> just updated my pc a few minutes back, let me recheck if the problem is still there.
[09:35] <nutzz> Ben64: yes
[09:35] <Ben64> then yep, dns problem
[09:35] <aczx> The GPU is GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
[09:36] <aczx> It's from 2004
[09:37] <aczx> At any rate, it doesn't matter. The kernel and hardware drivers are not matched and I don't know how to fix it, or even if it's possible.
[09:37] <pyro_serpent> its a bit less but the tearing is still there
[09:37] <carpediembaby> I tried the solution from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/262287/synaptic-touchpad-on-laptop-not-working and the trackpad starts working but it is featureless. It removed the configuration settings from "Mouse & Trackpad settings" and there is no scrolling etc.
[09:37] <vlt> akik: Yes, because I’m looking for a tool in #ubuntu ;-)
[09:40] <linocisco> hi all, i am going to draw telecom project and network and server room diagram with office layout. which should I install?
[09:41] <vlt> linocisco: There’s "dia".
[09:41] <CodeChris> linocisco: Libra Office has a program called Draw. But, to be honest with you, I've not found anything that beats MS Visio
[09:42] <cfhowlett> linocisco, libre Draw or Dia
[09:44] <slyfer> use both
[09:44] <linocisco> CodeChris, u r right
[09:44] <linuxnoob> hi, I have a SanDisk extreme usb 3.0 64gb flash drive (for backups) with mounting problems. If I plug it in I get following error: http://pastebin.com/EBPYdJV6.
[09:45] <TJ-> linuxnoob: There's also inkscape, or the Windows program Sketchup (formerly Google Sketchup) that works well on wine
[09:46] <hateball> linuxnoob: You can try removig the dirty flag with ntfsfix -d
[09:46] <aczx> I think I found the issue
[09:46] <linocisco> thanks
[09:46] <TJ-> linocisco: There's also inkscape, or the Windows program Sketchup (formerly Google Sketchup) that works well on wine
[09:47] <aczx> I had added vivid-updates to my repositories, which downloaded the legacy 304.128 driver. However, my kernel module has only gone up to 304.125. I just downgraded by "force version" in Synaptic to use 304.125, which came from the vivid repo.
[09:47] <TJ-> linuxnoob: sorry, tab-completion went wrong there!
[09:47] <bujji> where can i find the chromium installaton directory
[09:47] <akik> vlt: you can download wpsoffice from here http://community.wps.cn/download/ (if the wps file is from wpsoffice)
[09:47] <aczx> I just wonder how I can get the kernel to upgrade to 304.128...
[09:47] <linuxnoob> TJ-, is the operation inside gparted -> partition -> check and repair SAFE?
[09:47] <aczx> I did this for OpelCL and CUDA too
[09:47] <linuxnoob> I get an warning so I guess not, but is this not as safe as removing a flag?
[09:48] <bujji> hello o/
[09:48] <TJ-> linuxnoob: The error tells you the problem. The NTFS MFT mirror is different to the primary MFT. That suggests Windows didn't cleanly close the file-system before you removed the device
[09:48] <vlt> akik: WPS-Office is a thing? I had thought *.wps is from ancient MS Works :-D
[09:48] <linocisco> TJ-, thanks
[09:48] <TJ-> linuxnoob: any repair of NTFS file-systems on Linux is not recommended; always use the Windows tools for that
[09:48] <linuxnoob> I didn't use windows
[09:48] <akik> vlt: Jackevansevo asked whether you can open it in wpsoffice
[09:49] <linuxnoob> TJ-, I copied the files with ubuntu but I used NTFS because I wanted to use it later with windows
[09:49] <vlt> akik: I’ll have to try that. Thank you very much.
[09:50] <linuxnoob> TJ-, ah. ok so I will use the windows tool. ty
[09:51] <TJ-> linuxnoob: It is safer (i.e. more recovery options) to use FAT32 to share file-systems with Windows.
[09:51] <linuxnoob> TJ-, but isn't there still the 4gb restriction?
[09:52] <TJ-> linuxnoob: for single files, yes.
[09:52] <TJ-> linuxnoob: That's Windows for you, I'm afraid!
[09:53] <M4dH4TT3r> im wondering if anyone knows the variable for set prompt in /home/user/.cshrc to change the color of the prompt to red?
[09:53] <TJ-> linuxnoob: I seem to recall there is a Windows ext* driver for Linux file-systems, if thats of any use. Only helps if you are only targeting Windows PCs you control of course.
[09:54] <M4dH4TT3r> yeah its called fs2ext or something like thaty
[09:55] <M4dH4TT3r> do you have any idea what the variable is TJ?
[09:56] <M4dH4TT3r> here come the clones
[09:56] <TJ-> M4dH4TT3r: I don't use c-shell; check its man-pages maybe?
[09:57] <k1l> M4dH4TT3r: what does the csh project say about prompt color?
[09:57] <carpediembaby> So I tried troubleshooting my trackpad issue. It is present in the xinput list. But when I do xinput --test [device id], nothing happens..
[09:57] <M4dH4TT3r> from everything ive read online all info is outdated and doesnt work, ive already tried man pages
[09:58] <M4dH4TT3r> i dont use c shell, its homework
[09:58] <TJ-> M4dH4TT3r: read the source-code then :)
[09:58] <shooter2kill> hey all i install virtualbox and when i try to start the virtualbox it says missing kernel driver
[09:58] <k1l> M4dH4TT3r: c shell is a non standard shell. see their projects support. the chances that a user in here uses it are very low
[09:59] <linuxnoob> TJ-, I tried "ntfsf -d"  because I didn't remove most importand backup files yet and it worked.
[09:59] <k1l> shooter2kill: what gives you "uname -a"?
[09:59] <linuxnoob> hateball, ty. "ntfsfix -d" did a great job
[09:59] <shooter2kill> KLL ??
[09:59] <k1l> shooter2kill: its a terminal comman
[09:59] <k1l> *command
[09:59] <rsv> i am trying to use a webcam, when i plug the webcam i get the message. but when i run camorama - it says /dev/video0 not proper device
[10:00] <DennisZ> Hey guys, is there a way to force-hide titlebars in certain applications (in gnome)?
[10:00] <DennisZ> E.g. firefox has some 1000 px high titlebar with pointless information and a close button..
[10:00] <M4dH4TT3r> looking at their docs now and they say they same non-working info everyone else does
[10:01] <shooter2kill> KLL:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610281/
[10:01] <k1l> M4dH4TT3r: find their support and tell them about it
[10:01] <M4dH4TT3r> % and /n /e dont work anymore
[10:01] <rsv> http://pastebin.ca/3177978
[10:01] <k1l> shooter2kill: so its a 15.04. is the package "linux-generic" installed?
[10:01] <shooter2kill> no idea
[10:02] <shooter2kill> i downloaded it from sofware centre
[10:02] <M4dH4TT3r> i dont have that kinda time kll
[10:02] <k1l> shooter2kill: then do a "sudo apt update && sudo apt install linux-generic"
[10:02] <shooter2kill> ok
[10:02] <k1l> M4dH4TT3r: me neither
[10:02] <zhaotongxue> Hello!
[10:03] <loa> how i can get core dump under ubuntu?
[10:03] <shooter2kill> just so i know while its installing what am i trying to do by installing sudo apt install linux-generic
[10:04] <TJ-> M4dH4TT3r: it's your homework, not ours. I just pulled the source and looked at the csh.c::printprompt() function and also 'grep prompt *' to get an idea. If I can do that in 2 minutes, so can you
[10:04] <k1l> shooter2kill: that is a meta-package. it makes sure you got the latest kernel and the matching kernel-headers. that is needed to build the kernel moduls. it seems like that was the cause it could not build that vbox module
[10:05] <shooter2kill> sweet thanks mate
[10:05] <M4dH4TT3r> TJ if you dont want to help me then just log off, yes its my homework and im seeking help because ive exhausted every resource at my disposal
[10:06] <k1l> shooter2kill: eventually you still need to make yourself a member of the vboxusers group on your system.
[10:06] <k1l> shooter2kill: "sudo adduser $USER vboxusers "
[10:07] <k1l> shooter2kill: after that you need to relogin to the desktop
[10:07] <TJ-> M4dH4TT3r: We've just told you how to find the info you seek. It's not an Ubuntu support issue. Try the CSH project
[10:07] <shooter2kill> oh ok K1l just so ya know what im looking at
[10:07] <M4dH4TT3r> and i did
[10:07] <shooter2kill> http://oi62.tinypic.com/2ajyhd0.jpg
[10:08] <akik> there's the ext2fsd program which provides access to ext3/ext4 partitions from windows
[10:09] <O_OniGiri> Hi guys, I am trying to install elementary OS, but after the installation it does not boot and elementary is nowhere to be found :S Hope someone can help me
[10:09] <k1l> !elementary | O_OniGiri
[10:09] <M4dH4TT3r> thats the one akik
[10:16] <shooter2kill> K1l: hey mate done what ya said same error
[10:16] <k1l> shooter2kill: what is the output of "groups" now?
[10:17] <shooter2kill> not sure what ya asking
[10:17] <shooter2kill> im getting the very same error as i did before
[10:18] <k1l> put the command "groups" into a terminal and get a line of output. please put that into here
[10:18] <shooter2kill> ok
[10:18] <k1l> or tell me if vboxusers is named in that output
[10:18] <shooter2kill> shooter2kill adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare vboxusers
[10:18] <k1l> ok, so that cant be the cause now.
[10:19] <k1l> "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup"  as a command into the terminal.
[10:19] <shooter2kill> cmd not found
[10:20] <k1l> "sudo service vboxdrv setup"
[10:20] <shooter2kill> vboxdrv: unrecognized service
[10:21] <shooter2kill> you think this program would be widley used on ubuntu
[10:22] <GimbleProsthetic> What´s the problem with virtualbox?
[10:22] <k1l> shooter2kill: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms
[10:23] <shooter2kill> gimble i keep getting a error
[10:23] <shooter2kill> http://oi62.tinypic.com/2ajyhd0.jpg
[10:25] <shooter2kill> im creating another VM just have to wait a sec to test but have installed sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms
[10:26] <k1l> shooter2kill: wait, is this inside a vm already?
[10:26] <shooter2kill> no
[10:26] <shooter2kill> im running ubuntu ...with virtualbox on it
[10:27] <shooter2kill> and trying to install a OS on the virtualbox
[10:27] <Ben64> what is the host system
[10:27] <shooter2kill> im running ubuntu
[10:27] <Ben64> more details
[10:29] <shooter2kill> im running ubuntu 14.04 LTS i wanted to running kali also so i installed virtualbox after installing VB i created i ran in and selected what i wanted after pressing the start button on VB i got this errror
[10:29] <shooter2kill> http://oi62.tinypic.com/2ajyhd0.jpg
[10:30] <k1l> shooter2kill: ah wait its 14.04?
[10:30] <shooter2kill> scratches head
[10:30] <shooter2kill> what did you think i was running?
[10:30] <k1l> shooter2kill: make sure the package "linux-generic-lts-vivid" is installed
[10:30] <k1l> shooter2kill: 15.04
[10:31] <Ben64> thats why you should always give as much information as possible
[10:32] <shooter2kill> i thought because 14.04 is the latest lts its the standard thing people would think everyone was running unless stated otherwise
[10:33] <auspetrol> G'day, my install is borked after running an update. Are you guys able to help, or is that more the realm of ##linux?
[10:33] <Ben64> 14.04 comes with kernel 3.13 usually
[10:33] <Ben64> auspetrol: depends
[10:34] <auspetrol> It looks to be graphics related. Hang on, let me paste the error from xsession_errors
[10:34] <shooter2kill> ok so after reading and viewing the screenshot do you know the prob of the error
[10:34] <auspetrol> upstart: logrotate main process (3077) killed by TERM signal
[10:34] <auspetrol> upstart: upstart-dbus-session-bridge main process (3117) ter
[10:34] <auspetrol> minated with status 1
[10:34] <Ben64> auspetrol: give details, so far all you've indicated is that you have an install of linux that isn't working
[10:34] <TJ-> shooter2kill: 14.04 (Trusty) is the latest Long Term Support (LTS), but 15.04 (Vivid) is the latest release - until next month when 15.10 Wily is released
[10:34] <auspetrol> damn app, sorry, hang on
[10:35] <auspetrol> It copied the wrong thing, hate working from my phone
[10:35] <Ben64> auspetrol: and don't paste a bunch of stuff in the channel
[10:35] <auspetrol> Okay, how should i provide the detail? Sorry mate!
[10:35] <shooter2kill> TJ thats fine i only run LTS versions
[10:35] <Ben64> first, explain the issue fully
[10:35] <TJ-> auspetrol: boot the system into Recovery mode (GRUB menu, Advanced > Recovery) then you can check the logs of the failed boot
[10:36] <auspetrol> It boots, but a login kicks me back out again
[10:36] <adsc> a GUI login?
[10:36] <auspetrol> ~/.xsession_errors contains an error about atifgxextension
[10:36] <k1l> shooter2kill: does "sudo modprobe vboxdrv" now work?
[10:36] <TJ-> shooter2kill: To keep up with support for recent hardware on LTS releases, we backport the kernel and GPU support from later releases, hence k1l recommending the "linux-generic-lts-vivid" package - that brings the later kernel
[10:36] <auspetrol> Affirmative
[10:37] <TJ-> auspetrol: Does a Guest login work?
[10:37] <shooter2kill> sudo modprobe vboxdrv does not work
[10:38] <auspetrol> Grr, im sick of my phone kicking me off irc.
[10:38] <TJ-> shooter2kill: What error does it report?
[10:38] <auspetrol> TJ-: no, it doesnt, same symptoms
[10:38] <Ben64> auspetrol: come on, don't make people fight you to get information.
[10:38] <TJ-> auspetrol: Well... that's progress of a sort! at least you know the issue is not user-specific!
[10:39] <Ben64> auspetrol: computer specs, linux version, what did you do before it stopped working, etc
[10:39] <k1l_> shooter2kill: so did you now install the package i requested or not?
 shooter2kill: make sure the package "linux-generic-lts-vivid" is installed
[10:39] <shooter2kill> yes i did
[10:39] <k1l_> shooter2kill: that should have build the kernel module, so there is something really weird on you system
[10:39] <auspetrol> Ben64: core2quad Q6600, 6gb ram (from memory). Linux version is now 15.04. I ran an update and it broke
[10:40] <shooter2kill> very standard system here
[10:40] <auspetrol> Ubuntu version sorry
[10:40] <Ben64> auspetrol: ubuntu? kubuntu? lubuntu? xubuntu? edubuntu? what update
[10:40] <auspetrol> It's been a long day. Ubuntu
[10:41] <k1l_> shooter2kill: close vbox. then run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox"
[10:42] <gtristan> 2 or 3 years ago, I recall trying a dist-upgrade and royally screwing up my system... I have one of those weird laptops with intel/nvidia graphics chipsets (the crappy intel one is listed first on the bus), I usually solve this with this bumblebee ppa
[10:42] <k1l_> shooter2kill: after that command is done put all the output into a pastebin service and show the link here.
[10:42] <TJ-> shooter2kill: did "sudo modprobe vboxdrv" report an error? if it just returned to the command-line silently, that indicates it was succesful. You can check if the module was loaded with "lsmod | grep vbox"
[10:42] <gtristan> Now, I am considering risking it
[10:43] <TJ-> k1l_: just noticed, if -vivid is installed, a reboot is required of course
[10:43] <Ben64> gtristan: newer versions of ubuntu don't need bumblebee
[10:43] <k1l_> gtristan: bumblebee is deprecated. nvidia now ships nvidia-prime which can handle intel and nvidia hybrid setups
[10:43] <gtristan> it would really be great, if it would work... but if I run the risk of having a non-bootable system again, I would rather save myself the hassle
[10:43] <gtristan> so, now I have ubuntu 12.04
[10:44] <k1l_> TJ-: he was already running 3.19 kernel so i think he was just missing headers.
[10:44] <gtristan> and I wonder... is it safe ?
[10:44] <gtristan> hehehe
[10:44] <TJ-> k1l_: ahhh!
[10:44] <Ben64> gtristan: time to upgrade to 14.04
[10:44] <auspetrol> Pastebin.com/BL32xwFK
[10:45] <auspetrol> Is what is in ~/.xsession_errors
[10:45] <gtristan> whewww.... ok I'll prepare a bootable USB first, and backup my home on my external harddisk
[10:45] <gtristan> ... just in case
[10:45] <k1l_> gtristan: of course backups are always a good idea
[10:45] <auspetrol> And the gpu is a Radeon HD 6870
[10:46] <shooter2kill> ok i have unistalled virtualbox and downloaded the .deb file from virtualbox site
[10:46] <Ben64> shooter2kill: why
[10:46] <shooter2kill> im going to try and install it that way and see if that works better
[10:46] <Ben64> don't
[10:46] <auspetrol> I tried an aticonfig --initial, also did a dist-upgrade since it stopped working
[10:46] <k1l_> shooter2kill: *sigh*
 the site is blocked. I am at work so to say. For me the following never failed:
 sudo apt-get install dkms linux-headers-$(uname -r)
 then head over to the virtualbox website and download the .deb package https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
 then do sudo dpkg -i yourpackage.deb (if it fails issue sudo apt-get -f install) . Should work
[10:47] <k1l_> shooter2kill: nice, dont listen to the known supporters in here but what a guys tells you in PM....
[10:48] <shooter2kill> i thought you had given up
[10:48] <TJ-> auspetrol: Try starting the system in 'text' (non-GUI) mode. At the GRUB boot menu highlight the Ubuntu entry, press 'E' to edit it, navigate to the line starting "linux ..", edit the line removing "quiet splash" and add "text" then press Ctrl+X or F10 to boot with that
[10:48] <auspetrol> Roger TJ-, thanks, ill give that a go
[10:48] <Ben64> shooter2kill: k1l_ gave you some things to do, you never reported back
[10:48] <shooter2kill> cause you said "sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox" i thought well i might as well try the .deb
[10:49] <k1l_> shooter2kill: do what you want, i am not interested anymore, since you dont do what i ask you to do.
[10:49] <shooter2kill> that i was doing the same thing
[10:49] <shooter2kill> sighs
[10:49] <k1l_> shooter2kill: thats because we need precise erromessages and dont know what the hell of a mess your system is that such easy things like vbox dont work.
[10:49] <auronandace> shooter2kill: installing a .deb from a website is not the same as using the software in the repo
[10:50] <shooter2kill> ok ok im only new to all this ...
[10:50] <Ben64> installing random debs from wherever a guy in a private chat tells you gets you into problems like this
[10:51] <shooter2kill> i really cant tell the difference between someone that is random and someone that isnt ben64
[10:51] <shooter2kill> how does one tell
[10:51] <Ben64> well if someone PMs you instead of saying it in the channel where people can make sure the information is good, thats a sign
[10:51] <shooter2kill> i thought wanting me to uninstall was what was wanted and i thought well maybe the .deb will be better ..
[10:51] <auronandace> shooter2kill: you listened to somebody from a PM but not the people in the official #ubuntu help channel
[10:52] <shooter2kill> mate i didnt know there was a differene
[10:52] <shooter2kill> difference
[10:52] <auronandace> shooter2kill: now you do know
[10:52] <shooter2kill> listen learnt
[10:52] <shooter2kill> lession
[10:53] <shooter2kill> i was def not trying to be rude sorry if it seemed so
[10:53] <Ben64> well when someone is trying to help you and you ignore them... its pretty rude
[10:53] <auspetrol> TJ-: no dice, replacing quiet splash with text, still cant log into X, i forgot to say I can login over SSH. And that the screen goes blank after typing in my password, like its trying to log me back in, but then returns to the login screen
[10:53] <TJ-> shooter2kill: The dailog box image you showed earlier isn't specific about the underlying cause of the issue, it suggests 2 possibles, so we need to discover the underlying cause. Having an installation that matches what we expect is key to diagnosing it
[10:54] <TJ-> auspetrol: When it started in 'text' mode did you get a console login prompt and were able to login?
[10:54] <shooter2kill> Ben64 i wasnt ignoring i thought i was being asked to uninstall and reinstall i thought i was using my head by thinking install .deb
[10:54] <shooter2kill> i was trying to help with the helping if that makes sence
 shooter2kill: close vbox. then run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox"
[10:55] <auspetrol> TJ-: ehh.. It booted without the splash screen, but it automatically opened X
[10:55] <Ben64> quite clear it doesn't mean go download a deb and install it
[10:55] <TJ-> auspetrol: Hmmm! which release of Ubuntu is it?
[10:55] <shooter2kill> yes once seeing that i thought maybe installing the .deb version is what im doing wrong
[10:55] <auspetrol> TJ-: just updated to 15.04 last night, it's base Ubuntu though, none of the derivatives
[10:56] <TJ-> auspetrol: I assumed 14.04 which uses Upstart init daemon, but if its 15.04 and is using systemd (aha!) then instead of 'text' add "systemd.unit=multiuser.target" and try again :)
[10:56] <shooter2kill> Ben64 as i said i didnt mean anything by it i thought i was doing the right thing
[10:56] <Ben64> shooter2kill: so did you run that yet
[10:56] <shooter2kill> ill do it now ...sorry
[10:57] <TJ-> auspetrol: if you can boot it to a console and log-in, you can control the starting of X ("sudo systemctl start lightdm"  and handle errors without being locked out
[10:57] <auspetrol> Ah, ill give that a go. Although i kind of killed my ttys, i was trying to increase the resolution, found something from the ubuntu forums which said to edit /etc/default/grub and change gfxmode... That's going to be a problem
[10:57] <auspetrol> They are black now... Oops. :/
[10:58] <auspetrol> The resolution i set was listed in vbeinfo :/
[10:58] <TJ-> auspetrol: OK, use the ssh session to edit "/etc/default/grub" and comment out the change you made, then do "sudo update-grub" to install the change, and try rebooting and using the multiuser.target parameter
[10:59] <auspetrol_> roger, i'll do that
[10:59] <TJ-> auspetrol_: getting to a physical console is key to being able to swiftly manage the issue
[10:59] <shooter2kill> ok so this is what happened
[10:59] <shooter2kill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610665/
[11:00] <auspetrol> TJ-: oh yeah, I hear that. I spent an hour trying to get openssh to install inside a chrooted environment from a livecd :/
[11:01] <auspetrol> turns out when you bind dev to chroot/dev, it doesn't also bind dev/pts!
[11:04] <Ben64> shooter2kill: apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic-lts-vivid linux-headers-3.19.0-30 linux-headers-3.19.0-30-generic
[11:05] <auspetrol> TJ-: can you give me that bit to add to grub again, I forgot to save it when I switched clients - sorry!
[11:05] <TJ-> auspetrol: "systemd.unit=multiuser.target"
[11:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:06] <auspetrol> awesome, thanks. give me 5
[11:06] <shooter2kill> Ben64:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610744/
[11:07] <auspetrol> okays, i've got my terminal up, directly logged into root, what did you say to do next?
[11:08] <TJ-> auspetrol: I think the first thing is to try and find clues as to what  upgraded packages were installed last, and whether any caused errors. Shortcut first: "sudo apt-get -f install" in case there are broken packages. Tell us if it reports any
[11:09] <Ben64> shooter2kill: sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms && sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms
[11:10] <auspetrol> negative on the broken packages, that returned no results (which i'm frankly surprised about, this install has been dragged through a fair number of ubuntu versions lol
[11:11] <shooter2kill> ok doing that now
[11:11] <TJ-> auspetrol: well that's good in a way
[11:11] <shooter2kill> ok mate that is done
[11:12] <Ben64> shooter2kill: what was the output
[11:12] <TJ-> auspetrol: Now, check the most recent Xorg log file. Identify its name first with "ls -latr /var/log/" and then pastebin it with "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.<whatever>.log" and tell us the URL
[11:13] <shooter2kill> Ben64:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610803/
[11:13] <wzInPS> hello guys! i just conntect my new hdd...i want to install ubuntu on hdd2...atm im in hdd1(windows 7) and in "Disk Management" should i choose MBR or GPT?
[11:14] <Ben64> shooter2kill: hmm, try just sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms
[11:14] <auronandace> wzInPS: if your new harddisk already has windows on it then you don't want to change the MBR
[11:15] <shooter2kill> ben:shooter2kill@shooter:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms
[11:15] <shooter2kill> shooter2kill@shooter:~$
[11:15] <TJ-> wzInPS: if HDD2 currently has nothing on it, leave it alone with Windows Disk Management. Let the Ubuntu installer do the disk partitioning.
[11:16] <Ben64> shooter2kill: ls -ld /var/lib/dkms/*
[11:16] <wzInPS> auronandace: the new hdd(2) has nothing...im in windows 7 hdd(1) and i want to install ubuntu on hdd(2) - (new installation)
[11:16] <wzInPS> TJ-: oh, okay! so there is no problem! :) thank you again!
[11:17] <TJ-> wzInPS: The installer has a partitioning step that gives several options. Make sure you choose the emtpy drive at that point, of course!
[11:17] <shooter2kill> ben64:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610840/
[11:17] <wzInPS> TJ-: while install, ubuntu will recognise the new hdd?
[11:18] <Ben64> wzInPS: yep
[11:18] <TJ-> wzInPS: Yes. The installer is a full Linux kernel running so it'll recognise all hardware, it jsut has a custom installer GUI with only the apps needed for installing a system.
[11:18] <auspetrol> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610827/ - is this text mode supposed to not enable the network on its own? I had to ifconfig eth0 up and then dhclient eth0 to get it to work... (think those are the commands I used)
[11:18] <Ben64> shooter2kill: ok, can you run virtualbox now
[11:19] <shooter2kill> no i still get the same error
[11:19] <TJ-> auspetrol: ah, assuming it has Network Manager, then you should do "nmcli con" to get the connection IDs, then do "nmcli con up id "Connection Name" :)
[11:19] <wzInPS> TJ-, Ben64: i got win7/ubuntu dual boot on hdd1...and i'll install ubuntu(new) on hdd2...so: on installation i choose "Something else..." ?
[11:19] <Ben64> shooter2kill: find /var/lib/dkms/v* | grep ko$
[11:19] <TJ-> auspetrol: line 460. "[   124.563] (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed. Probably kernel module missing or incompatible"
[11:20] <Ben64> wzInPS: easy way would be to disconnect hdd1 for the install
[11:20] <shooter2kill> no output
[11:20] <auspetrol> TJ-: Ah, my bad. i'm used to doing things the old fashioned way haha
[11:21] <auspetrol> oh, that's odd. should I apt-get purge the fglrx driver and reinstall perhaps?
[11:21] <Ben64> shooter2kill: find /var/lib/dkms/v* | grep log
[11:21] <TJ-> auspetrol: not yet, let's figure out why it failed.
[11:21] <auronandace> wzInPS: if you do disconnect the 1st harddisk for the install it would mean you would have to update grub on the first disk when you reconnect it to pick up your second harddisk installation in grub
[11:21] <wzInPS> Ben64: oh! sounds cool...also i saw this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbwWUO8ImPI
[11:21] <WaziK> Hello, where do I have to write to ask for making build for my device?
[11:21] <TJ-> auspetrol: "dmesg | pastebinit" please
[11:22] <wzInPS> auronandace: hmm...maybe its better not to disconnect it? i dont like grub problems... :/
[11:22] <auspetrol> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610872/
[11:23] <auronandace> wzInPS: no problem, it just means after you login to your 1st ubuntu installation you just need to run sudo update-grub
[11:23] <WaziK> How much do i have to pay to have a build for my device?
[11:24] <auronandace> WaziK: what do you mean?
[11:24] <Ben64> WaziK: if one doesn't exist already, it probably won't
[11:24] <Ben64> WaziK: not sure how you found a device that won't run ubuntu
[11:24] <TJ-> auspetrol: "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk -s 01:00.0 )"
[11:24] <auronandace> WaziK: are you talking about ubuntu touch?
[11:25] <shooter2kill> sorry ben i didnt see your last post
[11:25] <WaziK> I am talking about cyanogenmod. Am I on good irc btw? :D
[11:25] <wzInPS> auronandace: nice, so i just disconnect->install->connectAgain->sudo update-grub(old ubuntu)->end?
[11:25] <Ben64> WaziK: this channel is for Ubuntu support only
[11:25] <auronandace> wzInPS: yup
[11:25] <WaziK> Ou, sorry. Something went wrong :D
[11:25] <shooter2kill> ben64:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610897/
[11:25] <auronandace> !alis | WaziK
[11:26] <Ben64> shooter2kill: pastebin the make.log file
[11:26] <wzInPS> auronandace: okay! and something more: someone told me to creat swapPartition on the end...what does this means?
[11:26] <WaziK> Ok, thank you :)
[11:26] <auspetrol> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610902/
[11:27] <auronandace> wzInPS: swap is needed for hibernation and is helpful if you run out of physical ram
[11:27] <shooter2kill> sorry ben how do i do that
[11:27] <auronandace> wzInPS: for hibernation it must be at least the same size as your ram
[11:27] <auronandace> !partition | wzInPS
[11:27] <TJ-> auspetrol: Right! The command option '-k' asks lspci to list the kernel driver in use. Note there isn't one. So the fix is probably to get that built for the current kernel version. I assume it uses DKMS to do that
[11:27] <wzInPS> auronandace: but what does "at the end" means?
[11:28] <TJ-> auspetrol: "pastebinit <( dkms status )"
[11:28] <auspetrol> well, that'll do it alright!
[11:28] <auronandace> wzInPS: doesn't really matter where the swap patition is located
[11:29] <auspetrol> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610935/
[11:29] <auronandace> wzInPS: gparted gives you a nice graphical representation of where your partitions are located on the disk
[11:29] <wzInPS> auronandace: nice...and last of all: do you suggest me do root and home seseparately?
[11:29] <shooter2kill> ben64: that not what i did a few lines above your last msg?
[11:30] <TJ-> auspetrol: what does "uname -r" show you?
[11:30] <auronandace> wzInPS: depends on your needs, i tend to just have a / partition and almost never bother with swap since i never suspend/hibernate
[11:30] <auspetrol> TJ-: 3.13.0-45-generic
[11:31] <TJ-> auspetrol: Hmmm. You notice your current kernel version is not the same as the DKMS kernel the fglrx module is built for?
[11:31] <TJ-> auspetrol: did you boot to an older kernel version deliberately?
[11:31] <auspetrol> hmm, that's odd. Nah, I didn't - I used the first option, which is just listed as Ubuntu
[11:32] <auronandace> wzInPS: i also prefer to have a separate storage partition that i add to fstab so that all my files are separate from the OS, makes installing new releases a lot easier/safer
[11:32] <TJ-> auspetrol: let's take a detour and check this out then. The DKMS listed kernel version is from 15.04 but your current boot kernel is from 14.04
[11:32] <TJ-> auspetrol: and I think you said you'd just release-upgraded from 14.04 to 15.04?
[11:32] <auspetrol> TJ-: affirmative, sure did
[11:32] <TJ-> auspetrol: so you went 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04 ?
[11:33] <wzInPS> auronandace: is possible to do this separate storage partition after the installation(with only root partition)?
[11:33] <auspetrol> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610970/ < my /boot/grub/grub.cfg doesn't even contain the string 3.19 (if that helps)
[11:33] <auronandace> wzInPS: sure
[11:34] <lift> New Skylake build here and I just fixed some weird graphics flickering issue (on both 3.19 and 4.3) and kworker @ 100% CPU by disabling an acpi interrupt.  Can anyone explain why this worked, and if this was an appropriate solution?
[11:34] <auspetrol> I can't remember what I was on before. To start with, my ubuntu install was prompting me for updates (has been for a while), so I hit install - finally. then it wouldn't boot. so in the hope it would fix it, i logged in and did an apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:35] <wzInPS> auronandace: excellent! really thank you!
[11:35] <wzInPS> i appreciate the work you're doing here guys! ;)
[11:35] <TJ-> auspetrol: dist-upgrade doesn't do a release upgrade. You'd need to do "do-release-upgrade" for that. What does "pastebinit <( lsb_release -a )" report?
[11:36] <lift> nevermind, graphics are still flickering a bit, but not as bad...
[11:37] <auspetrol> TJ-: doesn't it? well, I assumed it upgraded the distribution! ha! teach me to assume! what does dist-upgrade do then? also: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12611024/
[11:37] <TJ-> auspetrol: something is weird here since to have systemd-initd the 15.04 userspace must be installed, but the kernel is still the 14.04 kernel. Let's check that with "pastebinit <( ls /boot/{vmlinuz,initrd}*; dpkg -l 'linux-image*' )"
[11:38] <TJ-> auspetrol: dist-upgrade will install new versions of packages, whereas upgrade will only install fixes to existing versions
[11:38] <akik> lift: can you share what & how you did in disabling the acpi interrupt?
[11:38] <TJ-> auspetrol: hang on! typo, wait
[11:39] <TJ-> auspetrol:  False alarm - as you were, the command is OK
[11:39] <auspetrol> TJ-: haha, know that feeling! http://paste.ubuntu.com/12611053/
[11:39] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | auspetrol
[11:40] <lift> akik: "grep . -r /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/", then look for one with a high count, it will be much higher than everything else (all others were 0), mine was gpe6F.  Then get root and do # echo "disable" > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe6F
[11:40] <TJ-> auspetrol: there's something wrong here; here's the list of Vivid (15.04) kernel versions:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/linux-image
[11:40] <auspetrol> Do I need to run do-release-upgrade then? since I didn't run that earlier?
[11:41] <TJ-> auspetrol: This *is* a bare-metal PC isn't it - not a virtual machine?
[11:41] <auspetrol> TJ-: yep, it's a real PC
[11:41] <noidea_> how do i get mp3 files to play in firefox with gmail
[11:41] <TJ-> auspetrol: for the first time in a very long time I'm stumped. I cannot conceive of how the system can get into that state!
[11:42] <TJ-> k1l_: are you watching? can you cross-check me on this auspetrol issue?
[11:42] <auronandace> noidea_: i don't think gmail is intended for playing mp3s inside your browser
[11:42] <auspetrol> TJ-: well, at least it's not the same old "i forgot my password" issues that you get on a normal helpdesk!
[11:42] <TJ-> Grrrr
[11:44] <k1l_> TJ-: about what cross check?
[11:44] <TJ-> k1l_: auspetrol: summary: lsb_release indicates 15.04 userspace, and it boots using systemd which confirms that. 15.04 uses kernel version 3.19, but the only kernels installed are 3.13, although "dkms status" shows "fglrx-core, 15.200, 3.19.0-30-generic, x86_64: installed"
[11:44] <auronandace> auspetrol: you only got the one 3.16 kernel?
[11:45] <k1l_> TJ-: seems missing linux-generic package
[11:45] <auspetrol> auronandace, 3.13 kernel
[11:45] <k1l_> auspetrol: "apt-cache policy linux-generic"
[11:45] <auronandace> auspetrol: i see 3.16 in there along with the 3.13 ones
[11:45] <TJ-> k1l_: lsb_release: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12611024/  Kernels: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12611053/ dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12610872/
[11:46] <k1l_> could be an issue with the enablement stack installs 14.04.5 etc that they dont get the regular kernel meta package back when upgradeing to non LTS
[11:46] <noidea_> auronandace:  it goes to a player window just no sound
[11:46] <auspetrol> auronandace, oh, really? I'm booting with 3.13 though
[11:46] <TJ-> k1l_: I'm trying to figure out how this could happen, since to get to 15.04 from 14.04 requires 2 release-upgrades (14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04)
[11:47] <TJ-> k1l_: cannot imagine 2 release-upgrades both failing to upgrade the kernels
[11:47] <auronandace> auspetrol: what is your sources.list set to?
[11:47] <k1l_> auspetrol: and a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" please in a pastebin too
[11:47] <TJ-> auspetrol: "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:48] <auspetrol> auronandace, k1l_, TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12611153/
[11:48] <TJ-> auspetrol: k1l_ I don't want to recommend force-installing the 15.04 kernel until we know what is going on here, else we might break it worse
[11:48] <k1l_> there we go. source.list already set to vivid
[11:48] <TJ-> k1l_: can we do 14.04 > 15.04 directly?
[11:49] <k1l_> auspetrol: did you do some upgrades intentionally?
[11:49] <TJ-> k1l_: yes, I expected that. Everything about userspace indicates 15.04, but the kernel is 2 releases old, and how the hell did DKMS build a 3.19 fglrx-core module!?
[11:49] <k1l_> TJ-: iirc no. but if you manually change the sources.list it could go through.
[11:50] <auronandace> noidea_: installed any codecs?
[11:50] <auspetrol> k1l_, my box was prompting me to update - has been for a while - so I did the update. On reboot, I couldn't log in - X login prompt, enter username and pass, black, back to login. So I ran an apt-get dist-upgrade, no dice. That's when I came to you guys
[11:50] <k1l_> TJ-: imho its 2 regular upgrade to 14.10 and 15.04. but since on 14.04.5 is no linux-generic (but that lts linux-generic packages) installed it doesnt install the proper kernels after the upgrade due to that missing meta package.
[11:51] <TJ-> k1l_: Hmmm, yes, that's possible. auspetrol Over to you to solve this mystery of how you went about doing the upgrade! You said earlier you did a "dist-upgrade" - if so, that implies you *also* manually changed "/etc/apt/sources.list" to point to vivid?
[11:51] <auronandace> !mp3 | noidea_
[11:51] <noidea_> auronandace:  i have gstreamer etc
[11:51] <k1l_> TJ-: imho installing the linux-generic should fix at least that kernel mess.
[11:51] <TJ-> k1l_: I think the key here is auspetrol told me he only did "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:51] <auspetrol> TJ-, negative, I didn't change the sources.list, haven't for >6 months
[11:51] <auspetrol> in fact, probably >12 months
[11:52] <TJ-> k1l_: auspetrol Yes, I think that is the way to go. "sudo apt-get install linux--generic"
[11:52] <auronandace> noidea_: there are several gstreamer packages, if you don't have plugins-bad or plugins-ugly then that is likely why you can't play mp3s in firefox
[11:52] <TJ-> k1l_: The system must have the 3.19 headers for DKMS to build the module
[11:52] <noidea_> auronandace:  i have it
[11:52] <auspetrol> TJ-, roger, i'll run the command
[11:52] <TJ-> typo
[11:53] <TJ-> auspetrol: "sudo apt-get install linux-generic"
[11:53] <auspetrol> ah, I was wondering about the double hyphen. it has listed 3.19 as to be installed
[11:53] <auronandace> noidea_: hmm, have you tried downloading it and playing it offline to check if mp3 playback is actually working?
[11:54] <noidea_> auronandace:  yup
[11:54] <auspetrol> well, I feel better about not being able to figure out this issue now! I do pride myself on being fairly linux savvy, but this error was odd!
[11:54] <ioria> TJ- maybe he did something trying to install fglrx...
[11:54] <knob> Good morning!
[11:54] <auronandace> noidea_: most strange, sorry i'm not of much help, i tend to listen to mp3s offline and i use chromium rather than firefox
[11:55] <auspetrol> also, what's the recommended way to enable numlock on boot? do I have to dig out the forum post on what files to edit? or is there a GUI option for it now? I can
[11:55] <auspetrol> I can't be the only one who prefers numlock on boot, surely?
[11:56] <ioria> auspetrol, have you looked at your bios ?
[11:57] <auspetrol> as far as I know it's set to enable numlock on boot - it used to work fine in Windows, when I had it on this machine, it's just Ubuntu hates it for some reason
[11:57] <auspetrol> TJ-: new kernel is installed, is there anything else you would like me to run before reboot?
[11:59] <ioria> !info numlockx
[11:59] <auspetrol> ah, awesome! thanks ioria!
[12:00] <ioria> auspetrol, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[12:01] <auspetrol> saw the first bit: me: "yay! proper option to do it now!" read the bit about doesn't take effect at login console. me: "aww!"
[12:01] <lol> 2.8.8
[12:03] <TJ-> auspetrol: I think you can attempt a reboot :)
[12:04] <auspetrol> TJ-: okay, fingers crossed! :)
[12:05] <icmax> What should I do here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12611331/
[12:05] <TJ-> I'm still puzzled on how DKMS could build a module for v3.19 kernel if that kernel wasn't installed and running!
[12:05] <HackerII> lemmings xchat script
[12:05] <HackerII> oops
[12:05] <auronandace> icmax: did you read it?
[12:06] <auspetrol> moment of truth!!!
[12:06] <icmax> auronandace: Yes. It says the packages are no longer required. But I'm worried whether it may delete anything important.
[12:07] <auronandace> icmax: can you show us the output of: uname -a
[12:07] <icmax> Linux ubuntu-linux 3.19.0-30-generic #33~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 22 09:27:00 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:07] <auspetrol> TJ-, I have a desktop that looks suspiciously like the one I had before! score! :D thanks mate!! and thanks k1l_ and anyone else who had a part in helping!
[12:08] <auronandace> icmax: so all those kernels are older than the one you are running, so it is safe to remove them if you really want to
[12:08] <auspetrol> aaaaaaaand looks like I have no menu bar or launcher on the side (whatever you call that thing). damn. :'(
[12:08] <auronandace> icmax: it is usually good practice to keep a known working kernel as a backup incase you need it
[12:09] <TJ-> auspetrol: Grrr @ Unity. check $HOME/.xsession-errors for clues
[12:09] <icmax> auronandace: So it'd be preferable if I didn't remove these packages?
[12:09] <k1l_> auspetrol: does guest account work properly?
[12:09] <auronandace> icmax: do you know if you have a separate /boot partition?
[12:09] <rory> I have this: if [[ $env =~ (pre)?prod ]]
[12:10] <rory> how do I negate it? bash doesn't like !=~
[12:10] <icmax> auronandace: I think I've only got one /boot partition. But I'm not quite sure...
[12:10] <TJ-> rory: ! predicate before the entire expression
[12:10] <auronandace> icmax: you can fire up gparted to take a look
[12:10] <auspetrol> k1l_, how can I log out of my account without any menu bars?
[12:10] <rory> if ![[ $env =~ (pre)?prod ]] ?
[12:10] <rory> It doesn't like that TJ-
[12:11] <auronandace> icmax: if you do have a small /boot partition then you don't want loads of kernels taking up space
[12:11] <TJ-> rory: "if [[ ! $env =~ (pre)?prod ]]"
[12:11] <auspetrol> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12611383/ < .xsession_errors
[12:11] <rory> if ![[ $env =~ (pre)?prod ]] ?
[12:11] <rory> wc
[12:11] <rory> ty TJ-
[12:12] <auronandace> icmax: it is usually a good idea to have 3 kernels on your system at any one time (fedora automatically does this and removes older ones as newer ones are installed)
[12:12] <icmax> auronandace: How do I check in gparted?
[12:12] <TJ-> auspetrol: no clues there. I don't use Unity but I do see many people report this. Someone else familiar with Unity will beed to step in now
[12:12] <auspetrol> I'm rebooting the PC to check the guest account, not sure how to log out without a logout button lol
[12:12] <auronandace> icmax: have you launched gparted?
[12:13] <icmax> auronandace: Yup.
[12:13] <k1l_> auspetrol: sudo service lightdm restart
[12:13] <ioria> auspetrol, sudo service lightdm restart
[12:13] <auronandace> icmax: what partitions do you see?
[12:14] <icmax> aurondace: I see /dev/sda{1..3}
[12:14] <auronandace> icmax: any of them mounted as /boot?
[12:14] <icmax> auronandace: /dev/sda1 => /boot/efi
[12:15] <lift> akik: I seem to have fixed my intel graphics screen tearing issue with Skylake by turning on compton and using glx as the backend with vsync on.
[12:15] <auspetrol> menus are visible under the guest login. so something odd with my account then!
[12:15] <auronandace> icmax: great, i hate uefi systems.. can you take a screenshot for me please
[12:15] <auspetrol> any ideas?
[12:15] <auronandace> !screenshot | icmax
[12:15] <akik> lift: have you activated the tearfree option?
[12:16] <lift> akik: where's that option at?
[12:16] <ioria> auspetrol, which is the last command you issued (before reboot) ?
[12:16] <k1l_> auspetrol: log into tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1, come back with ctrl+alt+f7), log into your account, then "mv .config .configbackup". then get back to login screen and try to login
[12:16] <auspetrol> ioria: apt-get install linux-generic
[12:16] <akik> lift: you can add it to xorg config
[12:17] <TJ-> auspetrol: I recall someone saying a dmrc file under .config was responsible. Try "find $HOME/.config -name '*dmrc*' "
[12:17] <akik> lift: https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2015/09/06/collection-of-kde-related-configuration-changes/
[12:17] <ioria> auspetrol, do what k1l_ said , if not working urge fglrx*
[12:17] <ioria> +P
[12:17] <TJ-> auspetrol: ioria: I think it's caused because when the kernels were broken X couldn't start due to no fglrx kernel module, and left something in the user config
[12:18] <ioria> TJ- he can purge them... or not ?
[12:18] <auspetrol> ive issued the move command, just waiting for it to finish logging in guest so i can logout and check... forgot no numlock :(
[12:18] <TJ-> ioria: I'd say not... the drivers are OK, it's a bad config entry causing this.
[12:18] <ioria> ok
[12:18] <auspetrol> and we have a winner!!!
[12:19] <icmax> auronandace: http://imgur.com/5dfajrL
[12:19] <TJ-> auspetrol: look for the *dmrc* file in the .config/ you moved, I think that'll be where the problem is
[12:19] <TJ-> auspetrol: moving everything out of .config means many apps have lost access to their own settings
[12:20] <k1l_> auspetrol: ok, so if you want some old settings back look into the .configbackup folder and copy that stuff back to the .config folder.
[12:20] <auronandace> icmax: looks good, you can keep the kernls installed if they don't bother you much
[12:21] <reactormonk> how do I enable otr in empathy in gnome?
[12:21] <icmax> auronandace: What's the unallocated bit?
[12:21] <lift> akik: Makes me wonder why that isn't enabled by default?
[12:22] <lift> akik: that seemed to do the trick, just added that option, rebooted, and no tearing :)
[12:23] <jmacdonald> any snort users kicking around?
[12:23] <auronandace> icmax: nothing to worry about, you won't be missing that 1mb of space
[12:23] <auspetrol> TJ_: should i not be able to just go "find . -name *dmrc*"? or am i doing something stupid? (it *is* stupid time of night after all...)
[12:23] <akik> lift: success!
[12:23] <auspetrol> ah. like i said, stupid.
[12:23] <akik> lift: which application did you test with?
[12:24] <TJ-> auspetrol: Just looked back in the logs to a previous user with the same issue, but they never reported what fixed it
[12:24] <auspetrol> i tried running the find command in the correct directory this time, still no hits though...
[12:24] <icmax> auronandace: Yeah that won't be a problem but I'm wondering why it's unallocated?
[12:24] <lift> akik: mpv and scrolling quickly in a browser and files
[12:24] <TJ-> auspetrol: apparently, in their case, removing "$HOME/.dmrc" didn't help, but you could look at that file, maybe move it to a back-up
[12:25] <auronandace> icmax: if i remember correctly it is to do with how partitions line up with the physical sectors of the disk
[12:25] <auspetrol> TJ-: the moving the .config worked, just not sure what in there is the issue...
[12:25] <auspetrol> should I try copying everything except the unity directories?
[12:26] <auspetrol> (back from the backup to the .config)
[12:26] <TJ-> auspetrol: worth a try for sure
[12:26] <TJ-> auspetrol: I really get annoyed with the patchy logging for user sessions
[12:26] <lift> akik: I was just going ot fall back to using my 770GTX, but I really wanted to use that just for the GPU passthrough for gaming.  Pretty much the ONLY reason I ever need windows is games that aren't supported on Linux.  I decided to make the switch with this new build instead of going to W10.
[12:26] <icmax> auronandace: I've also got another problem with ubuntu. I've seemed to have got it fixed but  do you know what could be the problem? My touchpad doesn't work but when I add the line "blacklist i2c-hid" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf it works fine....
[12:27] <auspetrol> TJ_: fair enough!!
[12:27] <TJ-> icmax: Some devices on the IIC bus mis-report themselves and end up being controlled by the wrong driver. By blacklisting the IIC Human Interface Device driver you avoid that happening
[12:28] <akik> lift: it seems to be a reason for a lot of people, to use windows almost only for gaming
[12:28] <bujji> hello
[12:28] <auronandace> icmax: modprobe is responsible for loading kernel modules, it must be that that particular module interferes with your touchpad, hence why blacklisting it makes your touchpad work
[12:28] <bujji> installaion directory for chrome where can i find
[12:29] <lift> akik: I spend too much time in PuTTY while in windows it seems anyways ;)
[12:29] <akik> lift: and the way windows seems to be going forward, windows 8.1 looks to be the last version i'm installing
[12:29] <bujji> akik: o/
[12:30] <icmax> auronandace: Is it possible that something else might have stopped working at the cost of the touchpad now working by blacklisting i2c-hid ?
[12:30] <auspetrol> TJ_, k1l_, returned everything but unity and unity3d to the new .config folder, works fine
[12:31] <auronandace> icmax: try: modinfo i2c-hid
[12:31] <bujji> akik: where can i find the installation directory in ubuntu for chrome default location
[12:31] <auronandace> icmax: that should give you a description of what that kernel module is for
[12:31] <auspetrol> thanks for all the help, it is much appreciated!!
[12:32] <icmax> auronandace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12611603/
[12:33] <auronandace> icmax: have you noticed anything that doesn't work since you've blacklisted that module?
[12:34] <icmax> auronandace: The only thing I've noticed is that the touchpad now works. Nothing else...
[12:34] <Kinoko> ubottu: Eric^^: i found the solution for luksClose . Whe i mount the container i will never specify the -t ext2 filesistem. Only mount /device /folder :D
[12:35] <EriC^^> Kinoko: great
[12:36] <auronandace> icmax: it appears to be for simple input devices, if no other input devices (keyboards, mice) are not functioning then i'd assume it is fine to keep it blacklisted
[12:36] <Kinoko> Now i will encrypt my music disksss hehe
[12:37] <icmax> auronandace: This is a bug though, correct? I shouldn't have to blacklist i2c-hid. The touchpad should just work. Will this be fixed in later ubuntu releases?
[12:38] <auronandace> icmax: you could check launchpad to see if it has been filed as a bug and the likelyhood of a permanant fix
[12:38] <auronandace> !launchpad | icmax
[12:39] <akik> bujji: dpkg -L google-chrome-stable
[12:39] <decci> Hello
[12:39] <arjun__> Connection problem to a Windows PC from Ubuntu via Remote Desktop Connection(rummania)
[12:39] <decci> I am facing error message /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.10: version `libcrypto.so.10' not found (required by /opt/dell/toolkit/bin/syscfg
[12:40] <decci> Any idea how shall I get libcrypto error fixed
[12:40] <akik> bujji: or find the chrome package name first with dpkg -l | grep chrome
[12:40] <arjun__> Connection problem to a Windows PC from Ubuntu via Remote Desktop Connection(rummania)
[12:40] <decci> http://pastebin.com/DuCbkpRu
[12:41] <TJ-> !find libcrypto.so.10 | decci
[12:41] <TJ-> !find libcrypto.so | decci
[12:42] <decci> TJ-: What package do I need to install it?
[12:42] <bujji> akik: i am getting "ii  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome             1:0.3.1-0ubuntu2.2                      i386         X.Org X server -- VIA display driver"
[12:44] <TJ-> decci: that file (libcrypto.so.10) doesn't exist in Ubuntu.
[12:44] <decci> What package do I need to install it
[12:44] <k1l_> decci: did you talk to dell about that?
[12:45] <decci> k1l_: Dell doesnt have OM packages for Ubuntu. I sent them a mail in poweredge mailing list
[12:46] <akik> bujji: so it looks like you don't have chrome installed
[12:46] <TJ-> decci: I think the Dell packages are either out-of-date of not intended for Ubuntu
[12:48] <k1l_> a lot out of date, imho.
[12:49] <Nilak> hello
[12:50] <aajk> hi all
[12:50] <aajk> can anyone tell me how to enable automatic installation of security updates?
[12:50] <aajk> like how it's asked during installation
[12:53] <TJ-> k1l_: it's not out of date, it's a different SO naming system used on RedHat/Fedora
[12:53] <akik> bujji: actually i noticed that first you asked about chromium and then about chrome. which one are you using?
[12:53] <akik> oh he left already
[12:53] <k1l_> TJ-: decci ah wait. was it that rpm packages again?
[12:53] <kubast2> What are packages like chntpw
[12:53] <cfhowlett> !info chntpw | kubast2
[12:54] <Nilak> is there a place to go for apps etc
[12:54] <auronandace> !software | Nilak
[12:54] <cfhowlett> kubast2, but better to use your terminal: apt show packagenamehere
[12:54] <TJ-> k1l_: I think Dell package their files as rpm and deb, but the files in them are only compiled for a RedHat based distro so the dynamic linker SO names are wrong on Ubuntu
[12:54] <kubast2> *what are packages that are similiar to chntpw
[12:54] <kubast2> it just failed to restart windows server 2008 vm password
[12:55] <kubast2> and I need some alternatives
[12:55] <Nilak> a good place to learn to use terminal?
[12:55] <k1l_> i recall a user some days ago using rpm packages with the same issue.
[12:55] <TJ-> k1l_: it might be as simple as creating that file as a symlink to the Ubuntu .so file, but that will only work if the ABI matches what is expected
[12:56] <decci> Hi
[12:56] <decci> Decci here
[12:56] <decci> Sorry got disconnected
[12:56] <decci> Accessing through mobile
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Nilak, www.fullcirclemagazine.com/downloads       almost every issue has a "command line" article or tutorial
[12:56] <decci> I was able to use alien to convert most of the rpm
[12:57] <decci> To deb
[12:57] <TJ-> decci: the files are only compiled for a RedHat based distro so the dynamic linker SO names are wrong on Ubuntu
[12:59] <decci> But I was able to install most off deb except deng n omilcore
[12:59] <Lumia930> I have a public share folder.. but i need to make one folder inside as read only ...
[12:59] <Lumia930> how to i make that in ubuntu ?
[12:59] <TJ-> decci: that's not an Ubuntu issue; talk to Dell
[12:59] <decci> Libcrypto is something related to libssl
[13:00] <decci> Dell said no
[13:00] <decci> They don't have that
[13:00] <TJ-> decci: Yes, and the ABI naming for libraries used on RedHat is different to that used with Debian/Ubuntu, which is why it fails
[13:00] <decci> I checked at mailing list
[13:00] <k1l_> decci: converting with alien is a try. its not guarantee
[13:00] <k1l_> decci: dell should be able to make proper .deb packages
[13:00] <decci> Hmm
[13:01] <TJ-> decci: The Dell binaries are dynamically linked and were done on a RedHat system. You try to use ththose on a Debian based system and the dynamic library names are different, so the run-time dynamic linking fails
[13:01] <decci> Hm
[13:03] <TJ-> decci: The number in the name after the .so (10) is the Application Binary Interface (ABI) version. That changes each time the symbols (function names + arguments expected) change in the library. So it's not just a case of altering the naming, it probably means the library the executable was linked against on RedHat has different symbols (therefore different ABI) and will therefore not work on Ubuntu
[13:04] <Lumia930> can some one till me how do i make the files and folder as read only ?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !permissions | Lumia930
[13:05] <auronandace> Lumia930: by public share are you talking about samba?
[13:07] <Lumia930> i have samba auronandace
[13:07] <Lumia930> i have created read/write for all ..
[13:08] <Lumia930> but just planning to make one folder alone to be read-only
[13:08] <Browser> Hello, I have a customer display connected through a USB port and it is in /dev/ttyACM0. For any reason, when I send echo "text" > /dev/ttyACM0 I have to send it many times because first I see a "t" then "tex" and like that. If I do tail /dev/ttyACM0 I see all the messages so the device is using like a queue :/. I didn't use to have this problem. If I run wrong command like run sudo -e "test" > /dev/ttyACM0. The screen sh
[13:08] <auronandace> !samba | Lumia930
[13:10] <vita> hello world
[13:37] <tonyarkles> Browser: I've seen similar things before
[13:38] <tonyarkles> is the sign a super old thing?
[13:40] <tonyarkles> Browser: one thing to check is whether or not the sign is trying to use flow control to limit the rate that you are sending to it. Possibly through RTS/CTS wires on the connector, possibly with XON/XOFF software flow control, or possibly through some proprietary control protocol they've made up
[13:45] <mach1nist> I found an uncharacteristically large software update today for my 14.04 LTS, video drivers and a whole bunch of Apache and Mysql updates.  Is there a way I can check to see if this is legit or if my machine is problematic?
[13:46] <auronandace> mach1nist: when was the last time you updated?
[13:46] <mach1nist> Probably a couple days ago
[13:46] <mach1nist> Certainly less than a week
[13:46] <auronandace> mach1nist: you could check your sources.list to see if it is using the correct repos
[13:47] <Pici> mach1nist: personally I install apt-listchanges on all of the servers I manage, so that I can review the changelogs before installing updates.  I'm not sure if the default config will block the upgrade, or just email you, so you may need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt-listchanges after you install it.
[13:49] <Pici> *it still downloads the new packages, but prompts you before you actually install them.
[13:50] <ArchNoob> hello, I'm using ubuntu 14.04 and wondering if i upgrade to any version say, 15. Will I be forced to reinstall all the softwares and apt repos afresh!?
[13:51] <hateball> ArchNoob: No
[13:51] <mach1nist> sources.list urls are all ubuntu, other than two for canonical, looks good?
[13:51] <hateball> !upgrade
[13:51] <hateball> ArchNoob: ^
[13:52] <hateball> ArchNoob: that said, if you're on 14.04 now and not having any major issues... probably better to wait for 16.04 which is another LTS release
[13:52] <ArchNoob> hateball: that's nice to know. How will i preseve them? or what command do i run to upgrade
[13:52] <hateball> ArchNoob: The update manager (or do-release-upgrade) will offer you upgrades, but if you install LTS it is by default set to only notify on new LTS
[13:52] <ArchNoob> hateball: yes, thank you.. and i'm waiting for that release. But how will i upgrade when it comes?
[13:53] <ArchNoob> hateball: aaaaahhh... that's really good.. :)
[13:53] <MrMart_> Hello there
[13:53] <ArchNoob> MrMart_: hello .. :)
[13:54] <auronandace> ArchNoob: you won't need to reinstall everything but they will all be updated to the latest repos, so if you are looking to save bandwidth then i'm not sure what to suggest
[13:55] <geng__> hello
[13:55] <brandon> hello friends
[13:55] <brandon> i would like some help with ubuntu themes
[13:55] <ArchNoob> auronandace: No, I will do anything for the upgrade..! thanks for the reply..
[13:55] <MrMart_> ArchNoob: I'm looking for some help with ubuntu. Am I in the right place? :p
[13:56] <Avenger_q> bleh
[13:56] <k1l_> !details | MrMart_
[13:56] <Avenger_q> what is the more popular themes for ubuntu 14.04? the purple look gets old.
[13:56] <Pinkamena_D> I am trying to remove a process from startup. I have removed entried for it from /etc/init and /etc/init.d but it is still listed in $ initctl list ; can anyone let me know where else to remove it from?
[13:56] <Avenger_q> id like ti find something simple and elegant
[13:57] <k1l_> !themes | Avenger_q
[13:57] <MrMart_> Im looking for some help. I accidentally ran "dpkg-reconfigure -a" and didn't realies until it was to late that this probably was a mistake...I would need some tips on how to undo the changes. For example nginx now throws a 502 at me if i try to reach transmission webgui
[14:02] <ArchNoob> MrMart_: Yes, you are in the right place, The problem is am not the right person :P
[14:02] <TJ-> MrMart_: if you were lucky the reconfiguration caused the original config files to be renamed as backups. You could check with something like "sudo find /etc -name '*.*dpkg*' - I *think* the files are used renamed to something like filename.dpkg-old
[14:03] <EriC^^> MrMart_: in the future a ctrl+c and then killing the dpkg process should help, if you kill it it writes each config after you press enter so it should be ok
[14:04] <auronandace> EriC^^: interrupting dpkg like that sounds rather risky
[14:05] <EriC^^> auronandace: yeah ,i know, i've tried it though
[14:05] <MrMart_> !pastebin /etc/adduser.conf.dpkg-save /etc/ca-certificates.conf.dpkg-old /etc/nginx/sites-available/default.dpkg-dist /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup.dpkg-new /etc/issue.net.dpkg-old /etc/update-motd.d/99-footer.dpkg-bak
[14:05] <TJ-> This is a good example of why using a source-code control tool (e.g. git) on /etc/ is always a great idea
[14:05] <EriC^^> it opens a new process for every question it asks, and if you kill it it just doesn't end up writing anything new to replace the old config
[14:06] <MrMart_> TJ-: This is the output of said command http://pastebin.com/NYtj0XLm
[14:06] <Jaglor> TJ-: never thought of that ... I like it
[14:06] <TJ-> MrMart_: That suggests "/etc/nginx/sites-available/default.dpkg-dist" might be the original file. Try "diff -u /etc/nginx/sites-available/default.dpkg-dist /etc/nginx/sites-available/default" and see what the changes are
[14:08] <TJ-> Jaglor: I have a system service that uses inotify to be informed of changes under /etc/ and then it does a "git add . && git commit -m "Changed on $(date)"  "
[14:08] <caralimon> Hello, my sound does not work in the distro 12.04 , modify the file as alsa- base.conf forums say but just does not work
[14:09] <raypalmer> hi
[14:09] <EriC^^> hello
[14:09] <Jaglor> TJ-: Is that config setup itself on git for usage?  ;)
[14:10] <ubunu>  athi
[14:10] <TJ-> Jaglor: It's totally GNU :p
[14:10] <ubunu> adath bada riawa
[14:11] <MrMart_> TJ-: I din't notice any changes unfortunantley
[14:11] <Jaglor> TJ-: I work with a massive installation base (and play irc on the side) and we should totally be doing something like that
[14:12] <raypalmer> hi
[14:12] <lil_salty> hi
[14:13] <TJ-> Jaglor: for that you want a configuration management system, e.g. Puppet, Vagrant, etc.
[14:14] <raypalmer> hi
[14:14] <Jaglor> TJ-: agreed, but imagine an entrenched infrustructure under constant legal audit swimming upstream four years behind and you'll get the idea
[14:14] <TJ-> Jaglor: I can imagine :)
[14:14] <Jaglor> TJ-: I had a manager once that dared to whisper "docker" and he's no longer a manager  ;)  It proved him unworthy
[14:15] <TJ-> Jaglor: I don't see why; LXC is a great solution for containment
[14:15]  * mahendrak hello.
[14:15] <auronandace> raypalmer: do you have a ubuntu issue?
[14:16] <lil_salty> hello people from other schools
[14:17] <Jaglor> TJ-: I've only recently come out of my own decade long stupor here.  I honestly have never seen LXC and only barely used docker.
[14:18] <frenda> Is it possible to zoom in Unity quickly?
[14:18] <frenda> This is captured using COMPIZ: http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/76948 --> it's in low quality to reduce the size
[14:18] <frenda> "enable enhanced zoom desktop" --> This is a feature for Compiz which allow you to zoom in/out when your capturing desktop by a video recorder such as ffmpeg
[14:18] <frenda> Is there any such facility for UNITY?
[14:18] <TJ-> Jaglor: wonderful tool. Docker is built on top of it. I deploy firefox within it to reduce the potential for vulnerabilities being able to get to the home directory contents
[14:19] <auronandace> frenda: you could install ccsm and try to use that feature but i don't know if this would negatively impact on unity
[14:19] <TJ-> Jaglor: LXC/LXD is used extensively in Ubuntu server installations for creating lightweight VM-type guests without the hypervisor layer
[14:20] <frenda> auronandace: Is ubuntu using Compiz as its window manager?
[14:20] <EriC^^> TJ-: please check http://paste.ubuntu.com/12612679/
[14:20] <auronandace> frenda: indeed
[14:20] <frenda> Ah well
[14:21] <TJ-> EriC^^: looks good: "# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     16715"
[14:21] <EriC^^> TJ-: ok, cool, thanks! :)
[14:21] <Jaglor> TJ-: I'm running my irc client inside my first docker container right now.  Set it up two days ago.  I will have to pick something to test out raw LXC without docker.  Sounds like a nice plan for the morning.
[14:21] <Amoz> In a normal ubuntu-desktop install with Xorg disabled, are there any background processes/daemons I can remove/disable as well to minimize noise in a benchmark setting?
[14:22] <swy> hey all.  I have a ubuntu server that's not booting, root cause is /boot being 100% full due to old kernels.  Have the system booted from boot-repair-disk, with access to my normal volume.  First question: how do I confirm what kernel the system will boot from, as uname -r lists the kernel on the recovery disk.
[14:22] <TJ-> EriC^^: there may be some sectors that report I/O errors that haven't been relocated due to not being able tor ecover their contents. In those cases it is a bit fiddly to identify what data is at the sector in order to manually fix the files affected
[14:22] <EriC^^> TJ-: i see, np
[14:22] <EriC^^> swy: type grep -m1 vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:22] <auronandace> swy: by defult it will use the latest one (the one with the highest number)
[14:22] <TJ-> EriC^^: The problem is the I/O errors may still show up from the kernel, and/or files will have corrupt content
[14:22] <Jaglor> swy: Do you have access from the repair disk to the full partition?  ie. mounted?
[14:23] <EriC^^> swy: and grep DEFAULT /etc/default/grub
[14:23] <brandon_> i feel like a man when i use terminal
[14:23] <swy> Jaglor: yes, it's mounted
[14:23] <EriC^^> TJ-: oh
[14:23] <brandon_> i want to become a script kiddie
[14:23] <brandon_> just like swy
[14:23] <EriC^^> TJ-: it's been happening a couple times when i copy large files from the ext hdd to the hdd
[14:24] <system0x01> Linux. Python. How to read current speed DVD/CD form /dev/sr0 at copy files ?
[14:24] <TJ-> EriC^^: A drive's own relocation functionality is only good when it notices ECC errors on reading a sector, retries and manages to get the good data, and then marks that physical sector bad and copies the data to a spare physical sector. The logical block address (LBA) stays the same as far as the OS is concerned.
[14:24] <Jaglor> swy: EriC^^ and auronandace got you covered then
[14:25] <TJ-> EriC^^: if the drive cannot get the data and ECC to match, it can't relocate the sector on its own, it needs the user to replace the sector's data with known-good
[14:25] <EriC^^> TJ-: oh, ok
[14:25] <auronandace> system0x01: perhaps a question for the people at ##python
[14:25] <EriC^^> TJ-: is there any way to force it to check all sectors and mark them as bad?
[14:26] <EriC^^> ( and i guess lose the data that's on them? )
[14:26] <brandon_> sson i will be a hax0r
[14:26] <knoten> aarrrg
[14:26] <swy> EriC^^: this has been puzzling me: /boot/grub is without a grub.cfg .  gfxblacklist.txt and grubenv are present
[14:26] <TJ-> EriC^^: That has already happened as part of telling the OS it can't return data for the sectors. That's the LBA in the kernel I/O error.
[14:26] <EriC^^> swy: maybe you're using grub1 ? is there a menu.lst?
[14:26] <knoten> how can it be possible that php5-mysql is installed but no mysql module is listed under phpinfo()#
[14:27] <EriC^^> TJ-: oh ok
[14:27] <brandon_> knoten i can help you
[14:27] <swy> EriC^^: negative.  Just those 2 files.
[14:27] <EriC^^> swy: maybe chroot and reinstall grub?
[14:27] <knoten> brandon_: that would be much appreciated!
[14:28] <TJ-> swy: Can you pastebin the root file-system's "/etc/fstab" ?
[14:28] <swy> tried a grub reinstall, but that takes me back to the 100% full /boot issue to be solved.
[14:28] <TJ-> swy: Well that makes sense. IF there's no space left /boot/grub/grub.cfg can't be created
[14:29] <system0x01> python channel inactive
[14:29] <auronandace> system0x01: unfortunately that doesn't make your question a ubuntu support question
[14:30] <TJ-> swy: list the files under the /boot/ directory. You'll see the kernel (vmlinuz-*) and initial ramdisk (initrd.img-*) ... look at the version numbers. That'll tell you what is the most recent
[14:30] <jayjo> is there a way to name my screen sessions something meaningful?
[14:30] <jayjo> Already created I mean
[14:30] <system0x01> yes :)
[14:30] <jayjo> Otherise I would use -S
[14:31] <swy> yeah, I can't touch grub until I clear out old kernels.  Since default=highest, next question is how to purge kernels from a volume that's not the boot disk.  All the guidance I googled up addresses teh boot volume.
[14:31] <brandon_> is ubuntu a gnome shell or unity? whats the difference?
[14:31] <system0x01> i want add a plot function to copy dailog on nautilus - when copy from cd/dvd
[14:31] <ioria> knoten, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24444847/php5-msql-installed-on-ubuntu-but-not-shown-in-phpinfo-php
[14:31] <knoten> hi ioria
[14:32] <auronandace> swy: if your /boot is full then that is where you need to clear the kernels from, not any other partition
[14:32] <EriC^^> swy: you can manually delete the initrd until you have enough space to run sudo apt-get purge linux-image-<kernel version>
[14:32] <swy> auronandace: yep, we're on the same page.
[14:32] <system0x01> only one variable - and plotting will be work
[14:33] <system0x01> the speed in kb/s
[14:33] <TJ-> jayjo: ":sessionname"
[14:33] <swy> EriC^^: if I rm initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic, should I also be purging it's parallel system.map-<version>?
[14:33] <auronandace> brandon_: unity is the default desktop environment tha is based on gnome-shell and compiz
[14:34] <brandon_> thank you
[14:34] <EriC^^> swy: no need, apt-get purge will take care of everything
[14:34] <knoten> ioria: do you have any idea :/?
[14:34] <system0x01> thx for help and good day :)
[14:36] <swy> EriC^^: and does the apt-get purge need to be directed to my normal boot disk?  I wouldn't expect it to purge there by default.
[14:37] <EriC^^> swy: you need to chroot into the install and mount everything, then apt-get will work as usual
[14:41] <knoten> ls
[14:48] <knoten> brandon_, ioria: soo... were you just trolling?
[14:48] <ioria> knoten, did you read the link ?
[14:49] <brandon_> knoten : no sir. i am learning terminal
[14:49] <knoten> ioria: oh, very sorry! i did not see the link. was right after the line break. shame on me
[14:49] <brandon_> knoten : what are some things a new user should be learning?
[14:50] <auronandace> !manual | brandon_
[14:52] <swy> EriC^^: chrooting is not familiar territory to me.  Got a favorite readme to shove me towards?
[14:52] <Jaglor> How do systemd .path objects compare to inotify methods?
[14:52] <auronandace> !chroot | swy
[14:52] <swy> ah, look at the friendly bot in the channel!
[14:54] <EriC^^> swy: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:55] <EriC^^> swy: there's also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[14:56] <ROKO__> ROKO__> hello
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 https://dpaste.de/YgCb
 roko__@Lenovo-Z50-75 ~> ls /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/xvba_drv_video.so
 the file exist
[14:57] <Guest82679> !ls
[14:57] <Guest82679> heh
[15:06] <elieocto> hello all
[15:16] <eurythmia> Hi folks. I have a script to change my desktop background to a random image in a particular directory. I have scheduled this script to run once a minute (for testing purposes) via cron (*/1 * * * * "/path/to/script.sh"). I am running 15.04, and I see cron output in /var/log/syslog that indicates the script is being run, but the background is not changing. Any ideas?
[15:17] <EriC^^> eurythmia: what's the script look like?
[15:17] <MarcGuay> Hello.  Ubuntu 15.04.  When I run "systemctl restart mysqld" I get an error "Failed to restart mysqld.service: Unit mysqld.service failed to load: No such file or directory.".  I'm trying to change the LimitNOFILE/open_files_limit for mysql.
[15:17] <EriC^^> eurythmia: does it work if you open a terminal and run it?
[15:18] <eurythmia> EriC^^, give me a moment, I'll paste my script and crontab somewhere for public viewing
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> eurythmia  if the script doesnt work, try with Shotwel > File > Set as background ... you can select a collection
[15:18] <genii> eurythmia: The previous picture is likely cached.
[15:18] <eurythmia> EriC^^, also: yes, running from terminal it does work.
[15:18] <korsakof> eurythmia: look at your command return value in your script with echo $?
[15:18] <EriC^^> eurythmia: ok, try ctrl+alt+f1, login and type DISPLAY=:0 /path/to/script.sh does it work?
[15:19] <MarcGuay> Seems to be called mysql not mysqld on ubuntu...
[15:20] <eurythmia> EriC^^, no, that doesn't seem to work.
[15:20] <eurythmia> .... brb, in about 10 mins
[15:20] <EriC^^> eurythmia: there's wallch
[15:20] <EriC^^> !info wallch
[15:21] <korsakof> eurythmia: I use variety. http://peterlevi.com/variety/how-to-install/
[15:24] <ioria> MarcGuay, mysqld is the executable... (daemon)   if you     sudo systemctl restart mysql ?
[15:25] <MarcGuay> ioria: That command executes cleanly, no msg.
[15:25] <MarcGuay> I have a feeling the problem lies elsewhere...
[15:25] <ioria> MarcGuay, ok...     sudo systemctl status mysql ?
[15:27] <MarcGuay> ioria: Seems like mysql is running fine.  Is it normal that the same command for mysqld returns inactive/not found?
[15:28] <TheNumb> MarcGuay: yes
[15:28] <MarcGuay> My actual goal is to change the value of the LimitNOFILE mysql variable as described here: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/server-management-using-systemd.html.
[15:28] <TheNumb> MarcGuay: because there's no mysqld.service
[15:28] <TheNumb> There's only /lib/systemd/system/mysql.service
[15:29] <MarcGuay> TheNumb: Ok...
[15:29] <ioria> MarcGuay, mysqld should be the executable... not a service ...
[15:29] <xStark> I need some help
[15:29] <xStark> I'm unable to install Ubuntu
[15:29] <olb00t> ?
[15:29] <TheNumb> xStark: any errors?
[15:30] <MarcGuay> ioria: Ok.  Seems like that info conflicts with the tutorial I'm following.
[15:30] <eurythmia> k, I'm back.
[15:30] <eurythmia> EriC^^, I was using wallch, but it became unreliable and started crashing all the time.
[15:30] <xStark> TheNumb: No errors. When I try to install using the option "Install in Windows 7" Computer restarts, nothing else happens
[15:30] <TheNumb> xStark: don't use that option.
[15:31] <xStark> TheNumb: I have explained the full problem here http://askubuntu.com/questions/679674/help-with-ubuntu-installation-14-04-3-lts
[15:31] <ioria> MarcGuay, can you paste the link ?
[15:31] <MarcGuay> ioria: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/server-management-using-systemd.html, "Configuring MySQL Using systemd" section
[15:31] <xStark> TheNumb: Which option must I use?
[15:32] <TheNumb> !dualboot | xStark
[15:32] <ioria> MarcGuay, it's for RedHat... i think
[15:32] <sabbie> I have a custom ppa installed and recently changed the ssl certificate to a Comodo PositiveSSL. The certificate works in all browsers, but apt is saying: "server certificate verification failed.". What could be the cause of this?
[15:33] <MarcGuay> ioria: I got there from here, which says that Ubuntu 15.04 is using systemd https://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=78102
[15:34] <ioria> MarcGuay, vivid is using systemd ... but ubuntu version of systemd and its own sql package...
[15:35] <eurythmia> EriC^^, I have my script pasted here (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12613243/) and my crontab pasted here (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12613257/)
[15:35] <MarcGuay> ioria: Hmm, ok... Any practical advice on how to proceed?
[15:36] <xStark_Ubuntu> Sorry I lost connection
[15:36] <ioria> MarcGuay, googling...
[15:36] <MarcGuay> :)
[15:36] <xStark_Ubuntu> TheNumb: I'm unable to use the unallocated space on the hard drive that I freed by shrinking Local Disk (C:) to install Ubuntu
[15:38] <ioria> MarcGuay, are you using Mariadb ?
[15:38] <eurythmia> korsakof, EriC^^ : I don't want to use a "wallpaper changing program" because they are too complex, and prone to breakage. Also: why use a big program, when a small one will do?
[15:38] <EriC^^> eurythmia: i think you can't use gsettings from cron
[15:38] <ioria> MarcGuay, https://linuxdevops.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/why-raising-the-mysql-open_files_limit-may-not-work-and-how-to-fix-it/
[15:38] <eurythmia> EriC^^, thanks, I'll google issues/solutions around that.
[15:39] <EriC^^> ok, np
[15:39] <EriC^^> eurythmia: hold on, i can use gsettings from tty1
[15:39] <EriC^^> eurythmia: can you append > /tmp/cron.log 2>&1 to the cron command?
[15:40] <xStark> TheNumb: Literally I'm unable to choose which drive must I shrink in "Something Else" option to obtain space for Ubuntu because all the things present are Windows 7 loaders or Windows recovery environment loaders
[15:40] <TheNumb> xStark: interesting
[15:40] <loa> can somebody explain what change in gnome terminal in 15.04? before i was under 14.04
[15:41] <loa> it looks and feel different.
[15:41] <EriC^^> eurythmia: this seems to have the solution http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10374520/gsettings-with-cron
[15:41] <TheNumb> xStark: well, the best way of doing it is to shrink the volume under windows.
[15:41] <TheNumb> and then reuse the free space
[15:41] <xStark> Windows 7 loader?
[15:41] <MarcGuay> ioria: Thanks
[15:41] <ioria> MarcGuay, good luck
[15:42] <Jaglor> xStark: diskpart as administrator in your windows environment has a volume shrink option that may help you
[15:42] <jayjo> can I copy a files contents to the system clipboard with cat or some other combination?
[15:42] <jayjo> CLI only
[15:43] <xStark> Jaglor: I have shrinked Local Disk (C:) before to obtain unallocated space. When I try to install Ubunty there, Ubuntu classifies the "Unallocated Space" as "Unusable Space"
[15:44] <Jaglor> xStark: That's something I've never seen happen
[15:44] <eurythmia> EriC^^, I was just browsing that questions as well, thanks :-)
[15:44] <xStark> TheNumb and Jaglor: This is the data I get when I select the "Something else" option http://i.imgur.com/zV1lKHU.png
[15:46] <Jaglor> xStark: seems odd that sda2 is marked as a recovery partition  Does that seem right to you?
[15:46] <utu8o> hello is it possible to easily use the liveCD/USB to turn a laptop into a wireless access point receiving connection from WIFI and distributing the link to a wired desktop?
[15:47] <xStark> Jaglor: I've literally been trying for days to install Ubuntu. This is the full info on the problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/679674/help-with-ubuntu-installation-14-04-3-lts
[15:47] <TJ-> xStark: !info xclip | jayjo
[15:47] <TJ-> Grrr
[15:47] <TJ-> !info xclip | jayjo
[15:47] <xStark> Jaglor: I cross checked the data several times. The data that I gave you is perfect
[15:48] <TJ-> !info xsel | jayjo
[15:49] <seb1234> Hi there! Sorry to disturb, its my first time here. I'm looking for some help regarding my ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS laptop
[15:50] <ZombieHyperdrive> seb1234 shoot
[15:50] <seb1234> shoot?
[15:50] <ZombieHyperdrive> tell us whats wrong ;)
[15:51] <seb1234> alright ;)
[15:51] <MarcGuay> What is the correct way to modify /lib/systemd/system/mysql.service?  Edit the file directory or is there a place where it can be overridden/appended to?
[15:51] <Jaglor> xStark: it literally comes back to shrinking the volume in windows and making sure it's done right (ie windows now reports that there is unallocated unused space available for a new partition or volume
[15:51] <stupidnic> I am using a preseed file with mirror/http/proxy set to an apt-cacher server. Later in my preseed file I am calling another local server (outside of apt) via wget and that is also going through the proxy server (which I don't want). Is there a preseed command for specifically setting the apt-cacher for apt calls? Or a setting in apt-cacher to not proxy local addresses?
[15:52] <seb1234> i boot my system and eerything goes normal until the first display for login should be shown. but: diplay goes black. tt4 works. starting a program like firefox it tells me: Glib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size ==0' failed Error: no display specified
[15:53] <xStark> Jaglor: I have created unallocated space before. After I have created unallocated space, I boot into linux from my USB flash drive and attempt to install. But Ubuntu calls the Unallocated Space as "Unusable Space". I will attempt one more time.
[15:53] <ioria> seb1234, sudo service lightdm restart  ?
[15:55] <knoten> ioria: thanks, for the link.
[15:55] <MarcGuay> ioria: In case you're interested, the method that worked for me is the first one mentioned here: https://books.google.ca/books?id=QJNqCQAAQBAJ&pg=PT283&lpg=PT283&dq=ubuntu++/lib/systemd/system/mysql.service&source=bl&ots=TOhwAoTDT5&sig=lTPlri_YnwXwH5FUp9MSDc-R5e4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDkQ6AEwBWoVChMI2oSn1sycyAIVSzc-Ch1bDgRe#v=onepage&q=ubuntu%20%20%2Flib%2Fsystemd%2Fsystem%2Fmysql.service&f=false
[15:55] <seb1234> nope, restart did not work. the typical ubuntu noise came, but display goes black again
[15:55] <MarcGuay> Interesting that they mention the method I tried earlier which didn't work.
[15:55] <ioria> knob, you're welcome
[15:56] <ioria> MarcGuay, good !
[15:57] <ioria> MarcGuay, ls -al .Xauthority ?
[15:57] <ioria> sorry
[15:57] <ioria> seb1234  ls -al .Xauthority ?
[15:57] <ZombieHyperdrive> seb1234 looks like xserver doesnt start
[15:58] <k1l_> seb1234: what did you do before that issue happend?
[15:58] <seb1234> if i'd know that... not even some update
[15:58] <ZombieHyperdrive> Do you have terminal? Try startx?
[15:59] <seb1234> authority is mine -rw--- no one else
[15:59] <k1l_> startx will not work on ubuntu unless you ruin your filepermissions with sudo
[16:00] <k1l_> seb1234: see dmesg and xorg.log in /var/log whats going on with your video driver
[16:00] <k1l_> i assume its not an intel card
[16:00] <ioria> seb1234, did you install some program without apt-get ?
[16:01] <seb1234> terminal does work. alt least. graphics. nvidia geforce GT520M Cuda. does that help?
[16:02] <ioria> seb1234, in the worse scenario, you purge nvidia* .....
[16:02] <seb1234> apt-get not recently... just the normal updates, which was around 2-3 days before now
[16:03] <seb1234> purge the nvidia driver?!
[16:04] <Browser> tonyarkles: I just saw your message about flow control
[16:04] <ioria> seb1234, yes.... but wait for less traumatic solution :-)
[16:05] <seb1234> khil: which part of dsmeg would interest you?
[16:05] <k1l_> seb1234: all of it.
[16:05] <k1l_> use "pastebinit" if you are on cli
[16:05] <eurythmia> EriC^^, perfect. My desktop is now changing as it ought to, thanks.
[16:06] <Browser> tonyarkles: when I run screen /dev/ttyACM0 it works well. It is a customer display. I don't know how to configure the flow control with stty
[16:06] <seb1234> well right now i am using a second pc to chat ere, so i don't know how to transfere all these lines
[16:07] <ioria> seb1234, you don't even get to the login screen ,  right ?
[16:07] <EriC^^> eurythmia: great, np
[16:08] <seb1234> true, i can hear the sound, but nothing to see... then i change to use tty4 to get some info
[16:09] <ioria> seb1234, how did you install the nvidia driver , command line or with Additional driver ?
[16:10] <seb1234> additional one, a friend of mine did the setup. but he's unfortunately not available
[16:11] <ioria> seb1234, sudo lshw -c video | grep driver ?
[16:14] <seb1234> Konfiguration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[16:15] <seb1234> Konfiguration: driver=i915 latency=0
[16:15] <seb1234> external screen does not help by the wa. screen says then: no cable input
[16:15] <ioria> seb1234, you are on an hybrid laptop
[16:16] <seb1234> ?
[16:16] <ioria> seb1234,  intel/ndivia
[16:16] <seb1234> so they bashed themselves?
[16:17] <ioria> seb1234,  apt-cache policy nvidia-prime | grep Installed
[16:19] <seb1234> ioria, no reaction.
[16:19] <pm5000> Hi there, is anyone available to help out with a sound issue I have?
[16:19] <ioria> seb1234,  cat /etc/issue
[16:21] <pm5000> Boy this is quiet for a 2k user chat ._.
[16:21] <seb1234> apt-cache policy nvidia says as output: nvidia: istalliert(installed): keine(none)     Installationskandidat: keine(none)     Versionstabelle: ()
[16:22] <bazhang> chat in #ubuntu-offtopic pm5000
[16:22] <swy> EriC^^: tnx for your help earlier- I got Humpty Dumpty put back together again.
[16:22] <EriC^^> swy: great, np
[16:22] <seb1234>  ioria, cat says Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \1
[16:22] <pm5000> Yeah but I actually have a technical question, thats why I came here, @bazhang
[16:23] <ioria> seb1234,  please, try again    apt-cache policy nvidia-prime | grep Installed
[16:24] <seb1234>        @ioria: nothing...
[16:24] <k1l_> pm5000: nearly 2k users still waiting for a detailed technical question :)
[16:24] <ioria> seb1234,  and    apt-cache policy nvidia-prime     ?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> pm5000  or is that long, that you're still typing?
[16:26] <pm5000> I don't know the rules here, didn't start with one right off the bat. Here goes - Whenever I plug in or unplug headphones, I have to manually switch output devices in order to have the desired functionality of the sound on the system. So I would expect that while I am watching a movie, a youtube clip or whatever, unplugging my headphones would default to the hdmi output and blast the sound via my monitor speaker, but it just
[16:26] <pm5000>  continues outputting to the headphone part..
[16:26] <seb1234> nvidia-prime: installiert: keine (none)    Installationskandidat 0.6.2   Versionstabelle 0.6.2      500 http://source.../ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
[16:26] <bazhang> got pavucontrol and padevchooser installed yet pm5000
[16:27] <k1l_> seb1234: so it was a bumblebee setup? bumblebee is deprecated and the official nvidia nvidia-prime is now used for the hybrid grafix
[16:28] <pm5000> OK.. So I need those packages before that behaviour occurs? Is it as simple as installing them or do I need to configure them somehow?
[16:28] <seb1234> yes, maybe. as said. a friend of mine did the setup. unfortunately he is not here...
[16:29] <ioria> seb1234,  try sudo nvidia-xconfig     and sudo service lighdm start (or restart)   ; if it fails you can 1) purge nvidia* or trying to reinstall ubuntu-desktop (if you use unity)
[16:29] <deweydb_> is there some command to find files that recently had their permissions changed?
[16:30] <seb1234> i've tried lightdm before -does not work... wait a minute for the first idea
[16:31] <ioria> seb1234,  after sudo nvidia-xconfig    you should reboot... (or restart lighdm)
[16:31] <deweydb_> i sort of just blundered a command. i meant to do: find ./ -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; within a specific web folder. but instead i did: find / -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; so folders files being found it root were all getting their permissions changed. i stopped it pretty quickly, and at the time my user was non root, so i didn't effect any root owned files, but i'm not sure if i screwed up permissions on files that i d
[16:31] <deweydb_> id have access to modify?
[16:33] <pm5000> bazhang, I installed the modules, "pavucontrol" seems largely pointless and "padevchooser" does not even start. I presume I need to do some additional stuff. Care to guide me through that? (If you have time?)
[16:34] <bazhang> what about paprefs pm5000
[16:34] <bazhang> !info paprefs | pm5000
[16:35] <jason_rad> trying to get rc.local to run.. I change execution bits 755 .. still does not run.  Anything else I need to do?
[16:35] <seb1234> wait, output tells me: using x config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf"    WARNING: Unable to find Corepointer in x configuration; attempting to add new CorePointer section     WARNING: The CorePointer was not specified explicitely in the layout; using the first mouse device.     WARNING Unable to find CoreKeyboard in X configuration, attempting to add new CoreKeyboard section. WARNING: The CoreKeyboard device was not specified explicitely 
[16:36] <pm5000> bazhang, already got this installed.
[16:36] <hexagonSun_> hello, I'm trying to connect through SSH for an university assingment, however, when I run the command our teacher gave us I get: SSH: command not found. I have installed openssh-server, I am on ubuntu 14.04
[16:37] <seb1234> ...using the first keyboard device.    ---backed up file 'path' as '.original'. New X configuration file written to 'path'
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> hexagonSun_  is openssh-client installed?
[16:38] <seb1234> reboot done.. no changes :(
[16:39] <hexagonSun_> MonkeyDust: I don't think so, I haven't installed myself, how can I install it?
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> hexagonSun_  in ubuntu: sudo apt install openssh-client
[16:39] <TJ-> hexagonSun_: 'ssh' or 'SSH' ?
[16:39] <hexagonSun_> SSH
[16:39] <TJ-> hexagonSun_: the command name  is lower-case
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> hexagonSun_  ah, try lower case
[16:39] <TJ-> hexagonSun_: 99.99% of commands on *nix are lower-case
[16:40] <hexagonSun_> that was it, now I can enter... I really have to stop listening to this teacher of mine...
[16:41] <ioria> seb1234,  you can purge nvidia* if you don't have specific issues...
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> the only uppercase command i know of, is Xephyr
[16:42] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: and X !
[16:42] <pm5000> dunno.. Reading about it online seems you can't really achieve this without writing user scripts
[16:42] <pm5000> anyway, thanks for the help
[16:42] <seb1234> ioria, lightdm start tells me that it's allready running. restart does not work.
[16:42] <vbgunz> hello everyone, I'm having an interesting issue. trying to run crontab from any users shell (including root) results in crontab just hanging on enter. how can I fix this?
[16:43] <TJ-> hexagonSun_: pro-tip: on Debian/Ubuntu there are manual pages for almost every command. you can do "man <name>" to view comprehensive help. E.g. "man ssh"
[16:43] <seb1234> ioria, i will use purge, but I hopefully wont miss any personal data afterwards?
[16:43] <vbgunz> I think I got it, I think I have to launch it with the -e flag
[16:44] <ioria> seb1234,  it doesn't affect data, but maybe some applications
[16:44] <hexagonSun_> TJ-:  thank you
[16:45] <ioria> seb1234,  and remove xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[16:46] <ioria> seb1234,  no, backup it...
[16:47] <Langley> Hello, a bit off topic I know, but can you say if trusty-security and trusty-updates should be enabled in Ubuntu based distros? (elementary os)
[16:47] <bazhang> !elementary | Langley
[16:47] <Langley> Is that a "no"?
[16:47] <bazhang> we dont know what elementary does, ask them
[16:48] <mmmm> what is best webmail that may support linux command line?
[16:48] <HackerII> give mutt a try
[16:49] <mmmm> mutt is client
[16:49] <mmmm> not service
[16:49] <HackerII> ok
[16:49] <CodeChris> You mean a webmail service that supports command line?
[16:49] <CodeChris> Without a client?
[16:50] <Pici> mmmm: mutt with gmail
[16:50] <CodeChris> ^
[16:50] <xubuntu_> teste
[16:50] <mmmm> CodeChris: yes
[16:50] <mmmm> Pici: gmail is the best then?
[16:50] <mmmm> text based
[16:51] <Pici> mmmm: for various definitions of best.
[16:51] <CodeChris> Not sure that exists, you would need a client that supports command line, such as mutt, and connect to a service
[16:51] <mmmm> the service sometimes needs javascript
[16:51] <mmmm> commandline will not support this
[16:51] <Pici> mmmm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MuttAndGmail
[16:51] <CodeChris> Well, gmail does, but not if you connect with a client, such as mutt
[16:52] <mmmm> text based webmail service
[16:52] <TJ-> mmmm: any client that supports IMAPv4 can connect to gmail
[16:52] <CodeChris> I don't think that exists, not without using a client.
[16:52] <CodeChris> You're asking for a website that is basically a terminal. But that doesn't exist I don't think. You need to use a client to do that, like mutt
[16:53] <xubuntu_> oi
[16:53] <seb1234> ioria, sorry for taking so long. I am still on it, but not used to terminal commands
[16:53] <Ancelmo> Boa tarde
[16:53] <Ancelmo> estamos testanto
[16:53] <xubuntu_> teste de comunicacao.
[16:54] <mmmm> gmail and famous webmail servies don't seem text base
[16:54] <mmmm> there may be something more for unix
[16:54] <ioria> seb1234,  did you run sudo apt-get purge nvidia*      ?
[16:54] <CodeChris> Yes, use gmail or anyone else you want, with mutt
[16:55] <seb1234> not yet. but its the next step to do
[16:55] <ioria> seb1234,  cd /etc/X11 and check for xorg.conf  and sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[16:56] <seb1234>  did that so far
[16:57] <ioria> seb1234,  be sure there is no xorg.conf in there
[16:58] <seb1234> deleted just backups and xorg.conf.dates left. The star after nvidia is important?
[16:59] <ioria> seb1234,  yes
[16:59] <seb1234> ioria, deleted the original one. Now just backups and xorg.conf.dates left. The star after nvidia is important?
[16:59] <ioria> seb1234,  yes
[16:59] <seb1234> ioria, thx
[17:01] <seb1234> ioria, done. restart?
[17:01] <ioria> seb1234,  yes
[17:03] <ArchNoob> hello, i have a problem. I was downloading yt videos, chatting in irc (all in terminal) and started sudo bleachbit in terminal (it ran and got stuck) i closed it from the terminal and everything got stuck after a while. I forced restart the system and now ranger command wont work on my home folder. Checked and saw a weird folder called " 9IrmvrfQk" it has a space infront. I can
[17:03] <seb1234> ioria, it's running! but without any addtional graphics, right?
[17:04] <ioria> seb1234,  now you are using nouveau ... i think check in sudo lshw -c video | grep driver
[17:04] <ArchNoob> I can't remove it, not even when i log in from other distro (fedora) with root privileges. What can i do please!?
[17:06] <seb1234> ioria, Konfiguration: driver=i915 latency=0
[17:08] <ioria> seb1234,  can you paste sudo lshw -c video    on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[17:09] <seb1234> ioria, I'll try.
[17:10] <ArchNoob> anyone!? Help..!
[17:10] <ioria> seb1234,  seems you are using Intel now
[17:10] <bazhang> patience ArchNoob
[17:11] <seb1234> ioria, I think it's the onboard graphics, right?
[17:11] <ioria> seb1234,  yes
[17:11] <ArchNoob> bazhang: :) okay..
[17:11] <ioria> seb1234,  then be sure that you don't have any bumblebee packages installed ....
[17:12] <seb1234> why?
[17:12] <ioria> seb1234,  deprecated
[17:12] <seb1234> pasting output
[17:13] <seb1234> paste.ubuntu.com/12614461/
[17:14] <broken_packages> Can someone help me out? I receive this message when doing an 'apt-get upgrade' http://i.imgur.com/RoniWzW.png
[17:14] <ioria> seb1234,  open Additional Driver and see what's in there
[17:14] <dev_> hi
[17:14] <k1l_> broken_packages: is it still there after you run a "sudo apt update"?
[17:14] <h00k> broken_packages: did you do the command it recommends you?
[17:14] <seb1234> ioria, where to find?
[17:15] <broken_packages> k1l_:Yes
[17:15] <ioria> seb1234,  open Dash and type Additional
[17:15] <ioria> seb1234,  open Dash with SuperKey (Windows key)
[17:15] <k1l_> broken_packages: this is a 12.04?
[17:15] <seb1234> so far alright ;)
[17:16] <seb1234> ioria, no results.
[17:16] <broken_packages> h00k:Yes, this is what happens: http://i.imgur.com/UEW9ghS.png
[17:16] <broken_packages> k1l_:yes 12.04LTS
[17:17] <k1l_> broken_packages: you can use a pastebin to show text. paste.ubuntu.com for example
[17:17] <ioria> seb1234,  it means that you don't find Additional Driver Gui ?
[17:17] <broken_packages> k1l_:hard to copy paste because I'm doing so from a weird terminal
[17:18] <bazhang> use pastebinit then broken_packages
[17:18] <guest-ctiXJE> hi
[17:18] <guest-ctiXJE> LOL
[17:18] <seb1234> ioria, nope. but trying my motherlanguage was a success ;)
[17:19] <k1l_> broken_packages: ok. it seems it uses the libc6-dev from the precise repo and got the libc6-dev already from the precise-updates repo. can you show a "cat /ect/apt/sources.list"  (you can replace cat with pastebinit after install to get it paste that directly)
[17:19] <ioria> seb1234,  good ... what's in there ?
[17:19] <broken_packages> bazhang:thanks, but the machine that I'm having a problem with is currently in recovery mode so I'm copying from Hyper-V connection
[17:20] <k1l_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libc6-dev   see the difference when clicking on the repos at the top
[17:20] <seb1234> ioria, 6 different NVIDIA binary drivers - not used. In use: x.org-X-Server: Nouveau
[17:21] <ioria> seb1234,  ok   can you paste lspci   ?
[17:21] <broken_packages> k1l_:I'll need a minute to try and get this output to text so I'm not sending one hundred screenshots
[17:21] <k1l_> broken_packages: if you are already doing it please add "apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-dev"
[17:21] <seb1234> ioria, lcspi?
[17:22] <ioria> seb1234,  lspci
[17:23] <ioria> seb1234,  you can install pastebinit and do    lspci | pastebinit   if you want
[17:23] <seb1234> paste.ubuntu.com/12614626
[17:24] <broken_packages> k1l_:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12614641/
[17:25] <broken_packages> k1l_:sorry I hadn't seen your second request: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12614659/
[17:25] <ioria> seb1234, your nvidia is GF119M [GeForce GT 520M]  but for using it (and switch between Intel and Nvida) you need to install the a nvidia driver and prime...  unless you prefer to use only intel ...
[17:26] <k1l_> broken_packages: erm. a "sudo apt-get install libc6-dev" doesnt work?
[17:27] <ioria> seb1234, ad said is an hybrid system   and you can read some here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics  and here http://askubuntu.com/questions/411439/hybrid-graphics-nvidia-and-onboard-intel
[17:27] <mmmm> how to change dhcp public ip. dhclient -r does not work or me
[17:27] <seb1234> ioria, thanks a lot!! thats good to know. But for the moment i am fine with intel. I don't need that much graphic power at the moment.
[17:28] <ioria> seb1234, ok.... take a look anyway ... is instructive :þ
[17:28] <k1l_> mmmm: public ip like the ip shown to outside internet?
[17:28] <mmmm> k1l_: yes
[17:28] <seb1234> ioria, i will. I did bookmark both pages. Thanks again!
[17:29] <k1l_> mmmm: you cant.
[17:29] <ioria> seb1234, you are welcome
[17:29] <mmmm> k1l_: why?
[17:29] <k1l_> mmmm: because your ISP does that for you
[17:29] <mmmm> i want to renew it
[17:32] <demhlyr> if your isp provides you with a dynamic ip you might be able to change it by restarting your router/modem
[17:33] <amcsi_work> Is it normal for a deploy with composer to take 15 minutes?
[17:34] <loa> can somebody explain what is right way for building packages?
[17:34] <loa> i need recompile package
[17:34] <k1l_> !compile
[17:34] <loa> is this ok? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rebuilding-ubuntu-debian-linux-binary-package/
[17:34] <loa> k1l_, i need recompile one that exists
[17:34] <k1l_> !checkinstall too
[17:35] <k1l_> loa: get the sources per apt-get. then make your changes, then recompile and make your own package
[17:35] <k1l_> !checkinstall
[17:37] <broken_packages> k1l_: No, this is what happens if I try to install libc6-dev - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12614847/
[17:37] <brandon_> broken_packages can you help me?
[17:38] <broken_packages> brandon_:Maybe, what's up?
[17:38] <brandon_> im trying to install directx9 redistro using wine but its saying its not supported by the current version of windows. im emulating windows xp...
[17:38] <brandon_> any ideas sir?
[17:38] <k1l_> brandon_: best ask in #winehq for wine issues
[17:39] <brandon_> thank you
[17:41] <loa> k1l_, but what is right way to replace default packages with my own
[17:41] <loa> k1l_, i rebuild ffmpeg and libav ones... i need --enable-nvenc configure option
[17:41] <iamrohit7> how can i set my default lowest clock speed?
[17:42] <loa> i don't think checkinstall is right way.
[17:42] <loa> k1l_, this way did not work for me https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb
[17:42] <auronandace> loa: why do you need to rebuild them?
[17:42] <baizon> iamrohit7: gpu? cpu?
[17:42] <nemo_> sup
[17:42] <loa> auronandace, i wrote why.
[17:43] <nemo_> exit
[17:43] <iamrohit7> baizon: cpu
[17:44] <auronandace> loa: sorry, i read it but it didn't register. imust be having a slow brain day
[17:44] <ioria> auronandace, he needs a feature for nvidia, i think
[17:45] <baizon> !info cpufreq-set | iamrohit7
[17:45] <baizon> !info cpufrequtils | iamrohit7
[17:46] <iamrohit7> baizon: i tried but it didn't work
[17:46] <baizon> iamrohit7: well, then its not supported by the hardware?
[17:46] <baizon> iamrohit7: or you have to do it in your bios
[17:47] <ioria> loa, have you seen this http://clojurehackers.com/p/Brainiarc7/ffmpeg_libnvenc
[17:48] <loa> ioria, i don't need another one version ffmpeg...
[17:48] <loa> it is not ubuntu way.
[17:48] <brandon_> i am so stupid
[17:48] <brandon_> im so stupid
[17:48] <brandon_> i am dumb
[17:49] <auronandace> brandon_: wine already has directx9
[17:49] <ioria> loa,  if you need to recompile , it wouldn't be anyway 'ubuntu way', i guess
[17:52] <loa> ioria, nvenc is almosts a year in ffmpeg, and there no any precompiled packages with it.
[17:53] <ioria> loa,  i see... but maybe there is a reason...
[17:55] <tonyarkles> Browser: apologies for only being here sporadically
[17:56] <tonyarkles> Browser: stty ixon?
[17:57] <tonyarkles> Browser: or crtscts?
[18:00] <Luke_> Hi
[18:00] <Luke_> Can i get some help
[18:02] <k1l_> broken_packages loa sorry was at dinner
[18:03] <just-now> hi there, is there a way to specify certain configuration details when installing with apt-get install from a ppa?
[18:03] <asher128> just-now, what do you mean with certain configuration details
[18:03] <k1l_> just-now: that depends on the package
[18:04] <k1l_> just-now: if the package launches a interactive installer, yes. as default? no
[18:05] <just-now> i'm trying to solve a vim library pathing problem that seems to have been created upon install. I have liblua5.2.so on my system, but I don't think vim knows where to look when i install. If I were compiling I would be able to specify the location I believe.
[18:05] <Guest80246> Hi! I have a question: how can i fix a problem with type language? en - write on russian, ru (russian) - on english
[18:05] <k1l_> just-now: that sounds like a mess of 3rd party and self compiled packages already
[18:06] <just-now> haha a bit.
[18:06] <Guest80246> i'm use ubuntu first time
[18:06] <geir_> Hi! I need to bind to port 53 but I cant :( Ubuntu says it's in use. Any one know how to fix it?
[18:07] <geir_> (I am root)
[18:08] <akik> geir_: probably dnsmasq has that port already open
[18:09] <geir_> akik: Yes looks like it. Do I need it?
[18:09] <akik> geir_: not necessarily :)
[18:10] <akik> but as dnsmasq gets installed by default nowadays it might have some dependency elsewhere
[18:10] <geir_> I've commented out dns=dnsmasq in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and done service restart network-manager
[18:10] <roller> hi
[18:10] <geir_> but still running and bound to the port :(
[18:10] <roller> where can I upload a pdf file so coworkers can see it?
[18:10] <akik> geir_: stop dnsmasq and see if something breaks
[18:11] <geir_> akik: just kill it?
[18:11] <k1l_> roller: make a samba share if its in the same local network
[18:11] <roller> no, coworkers are waaaay away
[18:11] <roller> maybe that was not the most appropiate wordx
[18:11] <akik> geir_: it looks like networkmanager starts it
[18:12] <k1l_> roller: than use a filehoster you like. or dropbox or or or. but that is not really a ubuntu issue.
[18:12] <geir_> akik: I killed the process, looks like everything is fine :) Thanks
[18:13] <esph> My sister sent me this image of her boot failing (14.04): http://i.imgur.com/kxgZleB.jpg Any ideas? I don't have direct access to the computer.
[18:13] <roller> thx
[18:14] <asher128> esph, file system problem?
[18:14] <asher128> esph, the filesystem needs to be checked with fsck
[18:14] <asher128> esph, as root, recovery mode
[18:16] <esph> @asher128 ah, okay. Didn't know that Ubuntu had something like that. Saves me from having her make a recovery USB
[18:16] <esph> Thanks for the info
[18:17] <mamba_> Hello
[18:18] <esph> @asher128 wait, though, wouldn't there be problems running fsck on a mounted drive?
[18:18] <Paul^^> hello all
[18:19] <mamba_> I'm brand new to Ubuntu and all of this Opensource is a bit overwhelming!
[18:19] <Flong> Yo
[18:19] <Flong> Question for you awesome people!
[18:19] <Flong> I am setting up Ubuntu server in an encrypted LVM
[18:19] <Flong> This server will run OpenBox on my Laptop on my slow ssd
[18:19] <Flong> QEMU will be used as the accelerated VM for clients.
[18:20] <Flong> Linux clients will be x11 forwarded to the host so they have seamless integration.
[18:20] <Flong> Sound good?
[18:20] <Flong> The goal is to be like Qubes but the entire machine can be trashed once it's no longer needed
[18:21] <Paul^^> I tried to re-install grub on a Efi bios pc but it don't go
[18:21] <Flong> Paul^^, EFI = No Trust
[18:21] <Flong> use BIOS
[18:21] <EriC^^> ^lies
[18:21] <Paul^^> Flong, : I must change the bios setting ?
[18:22] <esph> Why trust BIOS?
[18:22] <Flong> esph, No networking support
[18:22] <Flong> most EFI / UEFI have the ability to go online on their own thanks to a full blown TCP/IP Stack
[18:22] <esph> My uefi has that option, but I've disabled it.
[18:23] <Flong> esph, you can't trust it.
[18:23] <Flong> The best option is to ensure the UEFI is never loaded into memory.
[18:23] <Paul^^> I tried much time, with the network disconnect
[18:23] <Flong> Intel AMT doesn't help.
[18:23] <esph> You can say that, but I've not seen evidence of UEFI implementations disregarding those settings
[18:23] <Flong> esph, have you seen evidence of them respecting them?
[18:24] <daftykins> lets get back onto ubuntu support and stop spreading FUD regarding EFI thanks folks, you're welcome to discuss it over in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:24] <EriC^^> i second that motion ^
[18:24] <daftykins> sadly the tinfoil hats must be removed whilst discussing support in here :)
[18:24] <Paul^^> ok, excuse me
[18:24] <EriC^^> Paul^^: can you boot a live usb?
[18:24] <bazhang> Flong, cut it out
[18:25] <Flong> bazhang, no.
[18:25] <Paul^^> EriC^^, : sure , I tried with the classic metod , before mount the /dev/sda2 /mnt
[18:25] <EriC^^> Paul^^: ok type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:25] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[18:26] <Paul^^> after mount other parts of filesystem, the istallation go on without error , but when I re boot start only windows :(
[18:26] <EriC^^> Paul^^: oh, np, it's probably a stubborn bios, it can be fixed though
[18:27] <EriC^^> type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:27] <Paul^^>  nc termbin.com 9999 ??? this command connect the output to termbin.com port 9999
[18:27] <EriC^^> yes, it pastes it there
[18:28] <Paul^^> I'm from another pc now more old witjout efi, I re-installed windows here too, and with live ubuntu re-install grub
[18:29] <EriC^^> ok
[18:30] <dlam> wah anyone know how to get "Qualcomm Atheros Killer E2200 Gigabit Ethernet Controller" to work   ...it always says Ethernet Network disconnected =(
[18:30] <viju> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 12.04. I am using a month old headphone, suddenly it started giving me issues thought there's something wrong with the hardware. I did a speaker test from settings and everything seems fine but as soon as I switch to youtube or some other audio, it doesn't sound right. Any idea?
[18:30] <Paul^^> EriC^^, : however there the first partetition is ntfs , after I have debin and ubuntu and a swap partetition, I usa a mb asus P8H61-M
[18:32] <EriC^^> Paul^^: ok
[18:33] <EriC^^> Paul^^: did you try pressing esc to get a boot options menu when the pc starts?
[18:34] <daftykins> dlam: 15.04?
[18:34] <dlam> 14.04 !
[18:35] <dlam> think i gotta install compat-wireless or something
[18:35] <daftykins> but you said gigabit wired
[18:35] <daftykins> dlam: which kernel? those atheros devices aren't well supported yet, so you likely need a newer mainline kernel to try with it.
[18:35] <dlam> yeah its the wired  (just when i google it)
[18:35] <dlam> 3.13.0-63-generic
[18:36] <daftykins> ok, so you can either install the vivid HWE stack or try something newer from the mainline kernels
[18:36] <daftykins> !mainline
[18:36] <Paul^^> EriC^^ : I don't remenber, but start immediatly windows without the grub prompt
[18:36] <dlam> oooo thank thanks havent tried that yet  daftykins
[18:37] <EriC^^> Paul^^: ok, boot a live usb
[18:37] <CarlenWhite> Quick question,
[18:38]  * daftykins listens for it
[18:38] <CarlenWhite> If I want to use XRDP, what is the desktop I need to punch in?
[18:38] <CarlenWhite> Particularly the Ubuntu desktop.
[18:38] <steve__> hi
[18:41] <Paul^^> eric : ok, wait I change pc
[18:41] <Paul^^> 5 minute
[18:42] <wakeatnight> hi, after installing fglrx on 15.04 I can't exit openbox anymore. that is I can but it just shows a blank screen
[18:42] <wakeatnight> any ideas how to fix this?
[18:42] <AJ_Z0> What kind of a world is it in which I update a binary video driver on years-old OS platform with ancient video card and a rare monitor with no EDID which doesn't even work without a voodoo* config... and it just works?
[18:43] <steve__> exit
[18:43] <daftykins> AJ_Z0: doesn't sound like a support question to me :)
[18:43] <AJ_Z0> wakeatnight: That wasn't meant for you. Just unfortuate timing
[18:44] <wakeatnight> AJ_Z0: ah :)
[18:44] <daftykins> wakeatnight: what do you expect, your greeter to show up again?
[18:44] <wakeatnight> no, my shell
[18:45] <huscurian> Is pepperflash a better alternative to adobe flash?
[18:45] <wakeatnight> I don't use login managers
[18:45] <AJ_Z0> wakeatnight: Sounds like a VTY switching issue. How are you starting openbox?
[18:45] <wakeatnight> huscurian: i think its the developed one
[18:45] <johelish> Hey! Ive had big problems with my boot partition and i read that I could boot with a live cd and use gparted to repartition my boot sector but I can\t!
[18:45] <huscurian> wakeatnight: pepperflash?
[18:45] <wakeatnight> via xinitrc: exec openbox-session
[18:45] <wakeatnight> huscurian: "pepper" in chrome is the one being developed on I think
[18:45] <huscurian> Ah, then what's the alternative for Firefox?
[18:46] <wakeatnight> the regular flashplayer
[18:46] <wakeatnight> but don't quote me on this
[18:46] <daftykins> wakeatnight: ah, pretty common for fglrx to trash TTYs
[18:46] <wakeatnight> I try to avoid flash :/
[18:46] <wakeatnight> daftykins: ah how so?
[18:46] <daftykins> because AMD drivers suck
[18:46] <AJ_Z0> wakeatnight: So you should go back to a long prompt on the VTY from which you ran xinit (or startx), but if not, then try switching to it with ctrl-alt-F1 (or whichever)
[18:46] <daftykins> huscurian: pepperflash is the choice for chrome or chromium, you won't get flash in firefox.
[18:47] <daftykins> pepperflash wrappers exist, but i don't know anything about how well they work
[18:47] <wakeatnight> AJ_Z0: but it is reading input (even though I can't see it)
[18:47] <AJ_Z0> I don't know the current state of fglrx and whatever the AMD driver in Xorgh is called these days, but fglrx has a poor history and you might be better off not using it
[18:47] <wakeatnight> I can press uparrow and enter
[18:47] <wakeatnight> to startx again
[18:48] <wakeatnight> ^
[18:48] <CarlenWhite> XRDP does not like Ubuntu desktop.
[18:48] <AJ_Z0> wakeatnight: That's better than it could be. Does switching VTYs fix this?
[18:48] <wakeatnight> AJ_Z0: I have this problem with radeon: ever so often the screen colours all turn pink, 1000x saturated :/
[18:48] <wakeatnight> and I have to restart it to fix
[18:49] <wakeatnight> I will try later
[18:49] <wakeatnight> but I could also use radeon, just if this issue goes away
[18:49] <wakeatnight> (and if I get tear-free)
[18:49] <wakeatnight> is that asking too much from open source amd driver?
[18:50] <daftykins> yes
[18:50] <AJ_Z0> Yes, it is too much to ask AMD to work on a decent driver or support free software
[18:50] <daftykins> i was under the impression tearfree was intel only
[18:50] <wakeatnight> amd too
[18:51] <daftykins> actually i believe AMD are pushing one of their own drivers, other than radeon and fglrx
[18:51] <huscurian> what about pipelight?
[18:51] <huscurian> Would that be a good alternative to flash?
[18:51] <wakeatnight> why do you need flash so badly?
[18:51] <huscurian> hulu.com requires flash so I can't play any videos on here.
[18:51] <wakeatnight> ah
[18:52] <wakeatnight> and you don't want to use chrome (just for that)
[18:52] <AJ_Z0> Note that I'm going on historical recollections, not the current state of AMD graphics on approximately every platform.
[18:52] <wakeatnight> would work the best I guess
[18:52] <wakeatnight> ?
[18:52] <tgm4883> pipelight isn't an alternative to flash
[18:52] <huscurian> Chrome can't be used on Ubuntu?
[18:52] <daftykins> huscurian: +1 to tgm4883 - not even the same thing. as i said, pepperflash wrappers - or use pepperflash with chromium.
[18:52] <daftykins> sure it can
[18:52] <daftykins> chromium, the open source base, is one package install away
[18:53] <daftykins> apt-get install chromium-browser
[18:53] <ioria> CarlenWhite, you cannot connect , or the Unity Desktop is wrong  ?
[18:53] <huscurian> OK
[18:53] <huscurian> brb
[18:53] <AJ_Z0> Chrom(ium) with pepperflash "works" (including hulu.com last time I used it)
[18:53] <CarlenWhite> Echoed $DESKTOP_SESSION and it gave 'ubuntu'
[18:54] <huscurian> thanks guys
[18:54] <javascript> hello
[18:54] <javascript> I am javascript devoloper
[18:54] <wakeatnight> daftykins: what kind of driver is that?
[18:54] <Guest26548> your have questions?
[18:54] <CarlenWhite> So I threw that in and it just gave a grey screen.
[18:54] <daftykins> wakeatnight: what? i have no info on it.
[18:54] <wakeatnight> oh
[18:54] <daftykins> CarlenWhite: if you're talking about session names, you should be after 'unity' no?
[18:54] <daftykins> wakeatnight: what card is it anyway?
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> unity is in fact gnome, as it is a compiz plugin
[18:55] <daftykins> i don't think that changes the session name ;)
[18:56] <Redial2416> I have a question.  Running 14.04 64, will run perfectly for up to 18 hours, then locks up.  My runtime clock just stops, keyboard won't respond, mouse will move.  Only recourse is hard reboot.
[18:56] <eelstrebor> interesting, i can't get my new nick registered - according to my logs, my mail system rejected the e-mail from freenode because of a reverse lookup failure
[18:56] <k1l_> eelstrebor: talk to #freenode about that
[18:57] <pablo-> hello
[18:57] <k1l_> Redial2416: see the old logs in /var/log/ whats happening
[18:57] <Redial2416> I will check
[18:57] <daftykins> Redial2416: memtest and new CMOS battery
[18:57] <daftykins> :>
[18:57] <ioria> CarlenWhite,  i mean .... you are connecting from a Windows machine , right ? with Remote Desktop
[18:58] <tiblock> Hi. I have system with Celeron 1.0 GHz and AGP 64mb video card. Will ubuntu 14 run there or hardware is not supported at all?
[18:58] <pablo-> I'm from live cd , I'm using irssi , xchat don't go with apt-get install xchat
[18:58] <CarlenWhite> Yep.
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> tiblock  try it with a live dvd or usb
[18:58] <k1l_> tiblock: try Lubuntu. others might not run well
[18:59] <EriC^^> pablo-: you were Paul^^ ?
[18:59] <Paul^^> yes excuse me
[18:59] <ioria> CarlenWhite,  and you installed xrdp on the Ubuntu server machine ....
[18:59] <tiblock> MonkeyDust, k1l_, okay, thank you
[18:59] <EriC^^> Paul^^: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:59] <daftykins> tiblock: i wouldn't waste my time, anything single core simply will not cut it today.
[19:00] <tiblock> daftykins, but person that owns it don't have money for anything else and WinXP is super slow
[19:00] <CarlenWhite> ioria: Yes...?
[19:00] <salih666> hi
[19:00] <Chaser> !requirements | tiblock
[19:00] <CarlenWhite> I'm able to connect to the server with XFCE4, but that's not the ideal situation I want to be in.
[19:00] <daftykins> tiblock: so they'll have to save up and buy something, it's simply game over - i wouldn't give that to my worst enemy
[19:00] <auronandace> tiblock: you may run into a problem with PAE if your processor is too old
[19:01] <daftykins> auronandace: good point, i think lubuntu is meant to be ok in that regard though
[19:01] <tiblock> auronandace, will it be because ubuntu or linux kernel in general?
[19:01] <daftykins> but even lubuntu won't run on that heap
[19:01] <ioria> CarlenWhite,  you can try this and then restart xrdp : echo "gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d" > .xsession    and sudo /etc/init.d/xrdp restart
[19:01] <tiblock> auronandace, i mean will other linux bases OSes work or not any linux at all if there is no PAE?
[19:01] <Paul^^> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/tphK4QLE
[19:02] <EriC^^> Paul^^: ok, you're using msdos ( bios ) not uefi
[19:02] <auronandace> tiblock: ubuntu has enabled PAE by default in the kernel for a few years now, you'll need to use a kernel with PAE not enabled to boot
[19:02] <daftykins> tiblock: what RAM does that thing have?
[19:02] <esph> @tiblock Lubuntu is your best bet for an Ubuntu distro. There are other distros that might work better though; some are specifically aimed at being lightweight or running on older hardware.
[19:02] <EriC^^> Paul^^: do you have csm legacy enabled?
[19:02] <tiblock> auronandace, ah, okay, thank you. Will try live cd now
[19:02] <huscurian> I installed pepperflash via Software Center.  I tried Hulu.  It played back the video but cut short.  Error 3336.
[19:02] <huscurian> is there a sudo command I have to do to make pepperflash work with Chromium?
[19:02] <tiblock> daftykins, 256mb
[19:03] <daftykins> tiblock: ok that's not even going to boot most likely, that really is totally beyond the time of usefulness - promising that person anything is a mistake
[19:03] <auronandace> tiblock: ouch, you are going to struggle with that much ram
[19:03] <daftykins> huscurian: no, proprietary chrome might be better
[19:03] <Paul^^> EriC^^: sorry I don't know what is this stuff
[19:03] <tgm4883> auronandace: why do you always run to that without any evidence whether his CPU supports PAE or not?
[19:03] <Paul^^> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/6pVVUGaD
[19:04] <EriC^^> Paul^^: in the bios, there should be a csm legacy option, to choose legacy instead of uefi
[19:04] <daftykins> tgm4883: it's obvious it doesn't since it's an AGP era celeron
[19:04] <auronandace> tgm4883: i used the word may
[19:04] <huscurian> OK
[19:04] <Paul^^> EriC^^: I must choose csm ?
[19:04] <Redial2416> So I looked at the old logs, appears to be graphics related, last entries are to do with ATI Radeon
[19:04] <tgm4883> auronandace: ah ok, so any time a system won't boot that's going to be your response.....
[19:05] <daftykins> Redial2416: can you pastebin that file?
[19:05] <EriC^^> Paul^^: yes, choose csm legacy or legacy
[19:05] <Redial2416> Yes, one moment
[19:05] <auronandace> tgm4883: considering the age of the machine in question it is very likely correct, it won't be my stock response
[19:05] <EriC^^> Paul^^: wait a sec
[19:05] <Paul^^> EriC^^: I must reboot and look inside the bios
[19:05] <sooli> Hi all
[19:05] <EriC^^> Paul^^: hold on
[19:05] <sooli> I'm thinking moving from OSX to ubuntu 15.04
[19:06] <EriC^^> Paul^^: i think it's already set, cause you said windows was booting automatically, right?
[19:06] <Redial2416> Just to make sure, you want me to drop it in here?
[19:06] <sooli> I'm thinking about moving from OSX to ubuntu 15.04
[19:06] <akik> pae is used when you have lots of memory. what does this have to do with a machine with 256 megs ram?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> sooli, yes we saw that the firstr time
[19:06] <sooli> I need a computer only for coding (ruby / javascript)
[19:06] <Paul^^> Eric: yes, only windows
[19:06] <sooli> BluesKaj: sorry, I thought I was able to modify my sentence
[19:07] <Paul^^> I don't see the grub prompt
[19:07] <daftykins> akik: completely irrelevant interpretation of what PAE kernels are :)
[19:07] <EriC^^> Paul^^: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[19:07] <k1l_> akik: its needed since the kernel depends on it now. its standard on nearly all actuayl hardware.
[19:07] <CarlenWhite> ioria: Tried that session. Same error."
[19:07] <akik> pae is physical address extensions
[19:07] <CarlenWhite> Also sorry for that pause, was waiting for something to finish.
[19:07] <Redial2416> daftykins, you don't really want me to drop that log file here, how to get it to you?
[19:08] <daftykins> Redial2416: paste.ubuntu.com
[19:08] <Paul^^> EriC^^: you mean this procedure : http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[19:08] <daftykins> Redial2416: you can also install 'pastebinit' and run 'pastebinit file'
[19:08] <sooli> I didn't use a linux/GNU system as Desktop for a while ... But it looks good and finaly my OSX is so slow :)
[19:08] <akik> are you saying that since the pae kernel expects a lot of ram, it won't boot on 256 megs ram?
[19:08] <k1l_> akik: no. it has nothing to do with ram
[19:08] <EriC^^> Paul^^: yeah
[19:08] <daftykins> akik: current kernels _require_ PAE support of the CPU, if the CPU doesn't support it, nothing will boot.
[19:09] <tgm4883> akik: you need a CPU that supports PAE it in order to boot a kernel that has PAE enabled
[19:09] <Redial2416> Done
[19:09] <ioria> CarlenWhite,  which error ?
[19:09] <EriC^^> Paul^^: still though, let's try it
[19:09] <daftykins> Redial2416: you should have a link to paste here now, with a number after .com/
[19:09] <Redial2416> One moment
[19:09] <CarlenWhite> No error. Just a grey screen.
[19:09] <Paul^^> Eric: I used that on others pc without eif and all go
[19:10] <EriC^^> Paul^^: yes, your install isn't in uefi mode though, it's in legacy mode
[19:10] <EriC^^> and windows is in legacy mode too
[19:10] <Redial2416> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12616121/
[19:10] <SCHAAP137> i like legacy mode
[19:11] <daftykins> Redial2416: hmm looks ok to me
[19:11] <akik> wikipedia says pae was introduced in pentium pro. does it mean that every processor after pentium pro has the functionality?
[19:11] <EriC^^> Paul^^: did you run sudo mount ... ?
[19:12] <daftykins> akik: no.
[19:12] <quants> Hi guys, I need anti virus and anti spyware on my system, I deal with a lot of data and need the extra protection
[19:12] <Paul^^> EriC^^: root@ubuntu:/# grub-install /dev/sda
[19:12] <Paul^^> Installation finished. No error reported.
[19:12] <daftykins> akik: would you mind taking this topic to ##hardware perhaps? it doesn't really bear relevance to this channel
[19:12] <ioria> CarlenWhite,  should work with unity-2d...
[19:12] <Redial2416> No rhyme or reason to it.  Just all of a sudden locks up.
[19:12] <shamsky> join #russian
[19:12] <daftykins> Redial2416: i'd definitely get a memtest on the go
[19:12] <Paul^^> sda5 the usually procedure
[19:13] <EriC^^> Paul^^: ok, type update-grub
[19:13] <Redial2416> I hate to utter the words, never had the prob on Win7
[19:13] <Paul^^> I have 2 partetition here ext4 , ubuntu & debian
[19:13] <TJ-> Redial2416: do you have the most recent kern.log ?
[19:13] <EriC^^> ah i see
[19:13] <k1l_> akik: PAE is standard since 1995. (that is 20 years ago!). some intel M (Banias family) just dont announce the pae flag but can be foreced to boot pae.
[19:13] <daftykins> Redial2416: and you use both regularly?
[19:13] <Redial2416> Bear with me, noob, I will look
[19:14] <ioria> !info unity-2d
[19:14] <ioria> no
[19:14] <TJ-> Redial2416: is the 18 hours an accurate timing, and always very close to that? Is it the same time each day? Is the PC being used when it freezes? If so, is the same combination of applications running?
[19:14] <CarlenWhite> ioria that just straight up fails.
[19:15] <Paul^^> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/1aA0Xs1q
[19:15] <k1l_> akik: the reason behin PAE is that only with activated PAE nx-bit can be used etc.
[19:15] <Paul^^> before have tried this 2 times but it don't go
[19:15] <CarlenWhite> ioria: http://puu.sh/ksFEI.png
[19:15] <k1l_> akik: so dont get caught by the "more than 4gb ram" myth
[19:15] <Redial2416> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12616242/
[19:16] <SET001> how can I send output of multiple commands in single console and then to be able to kill all that commands with single ctrl+c or something
[19:16] <EriC^^> Paul^^: ok, try grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[19:16]  * huscurian is away
[19:16] <Paul^^> the usually command to re-install grub ; uefi bios of s...
[19:16] <ioria> CarlenWhite,  what client is that ?
[19:16] <SET001> running commands with & can share console but then I have to kill them manually
[19:16] <Redial2416> Yes, I can dual boot, trying to get more used to Ubuntu and throw the Win disks on the fire pile
[19:16] <CarlenWhite> The client I'm using to connect? Windows Remote Desktop.
[19:16] <CarlenWhite> That's the window from XRDP.
[19:16] <Paul^^> EriC^^: : Installation finished. No error reported.
[19:16] <ioria> sure...
[19:17] <EriC^^> Paul^^: ok, type exit and try rebooting
[19:17] <Paul^^> ok, in god we trust :)
[19:17] <ioria> CarlenWhite,  i'm afraid you cannot use unity....
[19:17] <CarlenWhite> Oh well.
[19:18] <SET001> guys... *(
[19:18] <CarlenWhite> XFCE4 will be something I'll bear with.
[19:18] <ioria> CarlenWhite,  until 12.04 you could have used unity-2d...
[19:19] <Redial2416> Never the same time period, usually my ram load is around 16-18%, I have noticed that the crash happens if over 25-33%, may be just coincidence.
[19:19] <auronandace> ioria: they dropped that quite a while back didn't they? it used metacity instead of compiz
[19:20] <ioria> CarlenWhite,  iy you really needs unity, you can install Lubuntu, the unity-2d and use xrdp with unity
[19:20] <ioria> auronandace, think so....
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> i loved metacity for ssh -Y connections
[19:21] <TJ-> Redial2416: I think you're killing the system with the full logging being done by UFW! Change that to minimal logging
[19:21] <Redial2416> I will be happy to, instructions please?
[19:21] <EriC^^> Paul^^: any luck?
[19:21] <Redial2416> Or a link to them
[19:21] <Paul^^> EriC^^, : thank you very much, maybe I was a dumb ... I knew perfectly how re-install grub , maybe I made any error before
[19:21] <EriC^^> Paul^^: great, np
[19:22] <Jordan_U> Paul^^: And just to confirm, can you still boot Windows without issue?
[19:22] <quants> What's the best antivirus I can get for Ubuntu
[19:22] <TJ-> Redial2416: could be the GPU overheating: "[ 6997.432035] radeon 0000:05:00.0: GPU lockup (waiting for 0x0000000000000008 last fence id 0x0000000000000002 on ring 5)"
[19:22] <auronandace> !av | quants
[19:22] <Paul^^> Jordan_U, : I must try to boot windows
[19:23] <Paul^^> another reboot ... ?
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> !find metacity
[19:23] <Paul^^> !find boot
[19:23] <bipul> What is wrong here  bzr dh-make hello-2.7 hello-2.7.tar.gz  bzr: ERROR: command 'dh-make' requires argument TARBALL
[19:23] <Redial2416> I will search for the minimal logging and try that.
[19:23] <Redial2416> Thanks to all that helped
[19:23] <TJ-> Redial2416: UFW Logging: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW#Logging
[19:23] <k1l_> quants: the biggest security issue is the user not running the updates to get the security fixes that ubuntu ships and installing 3rd party stuff.
[19:24] <Jordan_U> Paul^^: I think it's a good idea to reboot and test booting Windows, yes.
[19:26] <Paul^^> ok, I have debin too here , however this uefi bios are a dirty thing from M$ ...
[19:26] <Paul^^> bye bye and thanks , reboot
[19:28] <daftykins> ugh i do not appreciate those silly statements
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> people still think UEFI is a product from MS
[19:29] <daftykins> indeed
[19:30] <EriC^^> uefi is satan in code form
[19:30] <TJ-> UEFI is the best thing since sliced brown bread!
[19:30] <EriC^^> if you run the right algorithm on it, you get 666 O.o
[19:30] <EriC^^> :D
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> and the Evil One appears
[19:31] <esph> Ultimate Evil From Illuminati
[19:31] <esph> I cracked the code, people
[19:31] <EriC^^> lol
[19:31] <TJ-> I guess most folks are too young to remember all the terrible bugs in BIOS systems
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> and we use WUBI to fight the Evil One
[19:33] <auronandace> TJ-: isn't it true though that most manufacturers do a very poor job of implementing uefi so that various linux distros need workarounds to get around buggy implementations
[19:34] <auronandace> kinda defeats the point in having a standard if nobody is going to implement it properly
[19:35] <TJ-> auronandace: actually no... because they mostly use pre-packaged UEFI packages from Phoenix or AMI/Award, and those companies base the code on the Intel Open Source EDK 2 (EFI Development Kit v2). The problems stems from inexperienced/unqualified software engineers at the manufacturers tinkering with the package defualts, and adding 'value-add features' which are often buggy - such as boot menu management
[19:35] <auronandace> TJ-: ahh, thanks for the info
[19:36] <TJ-> auronandace: UEFI is based on the concepted of loadable modules, rather like the Linux kernel. The common core modules are built into the firmware, but you can load additional hardware drivers at boot-time using the EFI shell. Unfortunately, many manufacturers remove the shell - it is *very* powerful, like working in BASH
[19:36] <ioria> Paul^^ is missing in action ...
[19:37] <auronandace> good timing
[19:37] <ioria> no...
[19:37] <TJ-> auronandace: I always install the EDK2 shellx64.efi in the ESP as "/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI" as a fall-back for problems. (that's the Simple Media Boot Path used on removable media)
[19:37] <Paul^^> EriC^^: ok, thanks, I'm from debian now, tested win7 all ok, but....win is slow and heavy ;-)
[19:38] <EriC^^> Paul^^: great :)
[19:38] <Paul^^> and full of backdoors and spyware, etc... as 0-day flash etc...
[19:38] <Jordan_U> Paul^^: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not anti Microsoft rants. Please keep to support related discussion in the future.
[19:38] <auronandace> !yay | Paul^^
[19:39] <TJ-> auronandace: for the shell binary, see https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-ShellBinPkg/tree/master/UefiShell/X64
[19:39] <Paul^^> Here in italy was a trial of hacking team, a society specializated to make backdoor for all OS & smartphone :-(
[19:40] <daftykins> Paul^^: that's not on topic for this channel
[19:41] <auronandace> Paul^^: all your ubuntu issues sorted out now?
[19:41]  * woodruffw test
[19:41] <auronandace> !test | woodruffw
[19:41] <ProbabilityMoon> my screen turns off when I watch full screen videos (e.g. youtube), is there a way to prevent it without disabling "turn screen off when inactive"?
[19:41] <woodruffw> oops, sorry
[19:42] <ProbabilityMoon> I run a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.04, watching videos in Chrome
[19:42] <EriC^^> ProbabilityMoon: i dont think so, you can maybe use a cronjob or something to check if flash is being used and use gsettings to turn it on or off
[19:43] <ProbabilityMoon> hmm ok
[19:43] <ProbabilityMoon> haven't used Ubuntu in a while, but I remember 12.04 not showing this behavior
[19:43] <ProbabilityMoon> it didn't go to sleep when watching full screen videos
[19:43] <ProbabilityMoon> I wonder what changed
[19:43] <ProbabilityMoon> anyway, thanks
[19:44] <daftykins> i'm a bit shocked at that, i thought it was just a failing of xubuntu to go to power save during full screen video
[19:44] <auronandace> perhaps that's an issue with flash in particular
[19:44] <ProbabilityMoon> could be
[19:45] <BadDream> i have the same issue ProbabilityMoon....
[19:45] <BadDream> in xubuntu 14.04
[19:45] <ProbabilityMoon> some people recommend installing Caffeine, but I hate installing third party apps to fix issue that shouldn't be there
[19:46] <ProbabilityMoon> I suppose I have no choice :)
[19:46] <daftykins> ProbabilityMoon: welcome to FOSS land
[19:47] <woodruffw> that took ubottu long enough
[19:47] <ProbabilityMoon> daftykins: lol no, the FOSS solution would be: code your own solution
[19:47] <ProbabilityMoon> like EriC^^ recommended
[19:47] <daftykins> ;)
[19:47] <ProbabilityMoon> but I'm too lazy for that
[19:47] <daftykins> i kind of want to test that really happens on a standard unity desktop now
[19:47] <WUBI> HOW DO I TURN OFF CAPSLOCK?`
[19:48] <ioria> !info xautolock
[19:48] <auronandace> WUBI: silly question: have you tried pressing the caps lock button on your keyboard?
[19:48] <ProbabilityMoon> well it happens on a fresh Ubuntu install with nouveau display driver, playing flash videos in Chrome, so yeah...
[19:48] <Guest14224> ALT + F4
[19:49] <Guest14224> :/
[19:49] <ProbabilityMoon> I tried installing the proprietary Nvidia drivers, but they borked my computer, wouldn't start the graphic login
[19:49] <WUBI> thanks, it worked
[19:49] <ProbabilityMoon> had to ssh into the box from my laptop and remove them manually :)
[19:50] <EriC^^> ProbabilityMoon: i've come to learn that ubuntu/linux is like building legos of some sort, you can't really expect anything to be any way it "should" from the get go, but you're sure to find a program that already does it that you can add
[19:50] <daftykins> WUBI: i hope you're not actually using wubi :(
[19:50] <bongor> I'm having trouble installing grub to an external usb ssd
[19:50] <bprompt> ProbabilityMoon:    if the video is playing in the browser, in this case a flash video, it has no access to disable the screensaver or timeout from the system, so even in 12.04 I'd think it never did it either, though you think it did, since the browser has no access to that part of the system anyway, much less the flash component or any embedded video api, you could from a player, like Kaffeine, or just use smplayer
[19:50] <ioria> ProbabilityMoon, give a look at xautolock. ... not sure but can be useful
[19:50] <bprompt> ProbabilityMoon:   since those player apps installation include access to such system resources and can do the timeout disabling
[19:51] <wileee> bongor, What is the end use?
[19:51] <bongor> To run ubuntu from the ssd with any computer I need it to
[19:51] <wileee> bongor, Is it a msdos rather than gpt setup, the external?
[19:51] <ProbabilityMoon> bprompt: I don't expect it to disable the screensaver, that would be intrusive, just to signal activity, like any other app does
[19:52] <ProbabilityMoon> flash runs as a browser addon, which is essentially run as a separate process, I think
[19:52] <ProbabilityMoon> ioria: thanks will take a look
[19:52] <ioria> ProbabilityMoon, you can use xscreensaver
[19:52] <wileee> bongor, When you installed or install to a disk or whatever you use the something else option and point grub to where you want.
[19:52] <bongor> wileee: what do you mean? it's only ubuntu
[19:53] <bongor> I've installed it a long time ago, i tried to reinstall it manually
[19:53] <bongor> I installed ubuntu a long time ago, grub I tried just now
[19:54] <wileee> bongor, I'm assuming to the mbr, not a big deal, you can mount from a live and install or chroot in, are you familiar with either?
[19:54] <wileee> !grub
[19:54] <auronandace> bongor: when you install ubuntu you install grub at the same time, the installer lets you choose where to put it. why would you do them separately?
[19:55] <bongor> auronandace: because it was a long time ago and I installed grub in a different HDD
[19:55] <bongor> I used the external SSD with this computer all the time
[19:55] <bongor> Now I want to use it in a different computer
[19:55] <bongor> So I'm trying to install grub on the SSD itself
[19:55] <bprompt> ProbabilityMoon:     hmmm video playback doesn't do activity signaling, not even from a player app either, reason why video players provide their own "disable screen timeout" option in their settings, if you were to run it in smplayer o kaffeine or vlc and you do not disable it from there, you'd get the timeout kicking in anyway
[19:55] <WUBI> wubi works good for me
[19:56] <wileee> !wubi
[19:56] <daftykins> WUBI: ok, well as long as you know it's not supported and can cause lots of issues :)
[19:56] <ProbabilityMoon> bprompt: got it, thanks
[19:56] <holms> anyway knows how to launch cron/crontab/crond on ubuntu? trying this in docker... cron -e doesn't work, says illegal option, cron -f works but doesn't do anything, crond is absent, crontab is absent too
[19:57] <Paul^^> in ubuntu 12.04 LTS italian localization I noted 2 little bug : 1- it's about the classic GNU help system 2- another is about irssi configuration
[19:58] <wileee> bongor, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[19:59] <auronandace> Paul^^: you could report them on launchpad
[19:59] <Jordan_U> !bug | Paul^^
[19:59] <auronandace> !launchpad | Paul^^
[19:59] <Paul^^> !bug
[20:00] <auronandace> Jordan_U: would localisation fixes be considered ubuntu bugs or would they be forwarded upstream?
[20:00] <wileee> bongor, Changing computers you may run into graphic issues at times, but can be dealt with, you probably know this. You just need grub in the mbr of the ssd if all else is on it.
[20:01] <Paul^^> the info classic help from GNU don't exist ( don't exist node ) ; and irssi don't support $0 $1 etc... in the internal scripting language ; debian haven't this problem
[20:01] <esph> My sister's laptop fails to boot, and the "recovery mode" kernels also fail to boot, with these errors: http://imgur.com/a/OsiTA Any ideas? I don't have direct access to the computer.
[20:01] <Jordan_U> auronandace: Like any other bug, they would be considered Ubuntu bugs and hopefully the fix (and possibly the bug report itself) would be upstreamed.
[20:02] <daftykins> esph: looks like impending disk failure, i don't think you can do anything useful remotely (other than boot a live session) if any of the data on there is important to her
[20:03] <Jordan_U> esph: Does your sister have backups of all of her important data?
[20:03] <esph> So it really is disk failure?
[20:03] <bongor> wileee: yep, but it doesn't work for some reason
[20:03] <bprompt> esph:     can you/she go back to the recovery screen/menu and pick "root shell" from the menu, and run an "fsck" on the system?    looks like the hdd is going south though
[20:03] <wileee> bongor, Have you gone as far as a chroot?
[20:03] <daftykins> esph: looks pretty bad yeah.
[20:04] <esph> ugh, that's bad
[20:04] <daftykins> bprompt: i think that's unwise because it looks like it's going to just murder the data more
[20:04] <esph> @bprompt like I said, that is the recovery kernel failing to boot
[20:04] <daftykins> esph: can you instruct to use another system to prepare some live media to boot?
[20:04] <daftykins> esph: a quick command from a live session could confirm the hard disk's status
[20:05] <wileee> bongor, If it boots from the computer now you can put it's grub in it's mbr from the running desktop.
[20:05] <bprompt> daftykins:    just wondering the level of cluster error, if fixable, there's a tiny percentage in which could help a bit, is all
[20:05] <daftykins> bprompt: mm maybe, probably worth checking for bad sector state first off though, as if it's too widespread an fsck could murder a lot more :)
[20:06] <bprompt> esph:    right... but yeah, if she has a liveusb or livecd bootable *nix,  it'd a great idea to use that, and mount the hdd from there, and move her important data while she can
[20:06] <esph> @daftykins I was hoping to avoid that, since she doesn't have any USBs that aren't currently in use. I guess I could get her to go buy one...
[20:06] <TJ-> esph: your screenshot only shows logical file-system errors, no actual I/O errors. If that is the entire issue then an fsck -f should fix it
[20:07] <daftykins> but if sector remaps were going on at the firmware level you wouldn't see any?
[20:07] <TJ-> esph: further, the screen shot only shows a problem with a single block (4294967295) which if that is the only one reported, is even better news
[20:07] <daftykins> or might not o0
[20:07] <Jordan_U> daftykins: You'd still see IO errors for reads.
[20:08] <TJ-> daftykins: reallocation can only occur if the data in the 'bad' physical sector can still be read and passes the ECC check
[20:08] <esph> TJ-: see, that's what I thought. I only ever saw the one block in the errors
[20:08] <Jordan_U> esph: Does your sister have backups of all of her important data?
[20:08] <esph> TJ-: any idea how to get to be able to run fsck though? It would be kinda a pain to have her make a liveusb at this point, since she'd have to first go buy one, and then figure out how to make it on OS X.
[20:09] <TJ-> esph: I'd prefer booting from a Live ISO and running smartctl to check the drive health before doing an fsck, but its a close call whether to just go for the fsck!
[20:09] <daftykins> hmm guess i'm remembering logs badly
[20:09] <TJ-> esph: No, you need to boot from a stable device/file-system to do it
[20:10] <esph> Alright, just making sure
[20:10] <bprompt> esph:    well, to be fair, daftykins has a good case, the error messages look mostly like inode OS allocation errors, mostly software, not i/o hardware per se, BUT running an fsck -f;   may modify things that may be salvageable now and not much available after the fsck
[20:10] <daftykins> it's always handy just to see how affected the HDD is before going too far
[20:10] <TJ-> daftykins: When there are I/O errors reported to the kernel 1 of 2 situations has occured: 1) no reallocation can be done because repeated read attempts of the failing sector don't match the sector's ECC or 2) there are no more spare sectors to reallocate to
[20:11] <esph> bprompt: I'll keep that in  mind, thanks
[20:11] <Jordan_U> esph: It's an important question that changes how you should approach this problem, so please answer it. Does your sister have backups of all of her important data from this drive?
[20:11] <esph> Jordan_U: I think not
[20:11] <esph> Though some of it is backed up
[20:11] <daftykins> ooh dear, another one of lifes lessons learnt the hard way then!
[20:11] <esph> Probably some yes some not
[20:11] <daftykins> (might get lucky though)
[20:12] <TJ-> esph: does the PC have any other operating systems on it?
[20:12] <esph> No
[20:12] <daftykins> TJ-: i was aware of the mechanics, just not of what shows up in logs on a Linux machine particularly for each event :)
[20:13] <TJ-> daftykins: OK :) sometimes we don't see reallocation events; some drives don't inform the OS, unfortunately
[20:14] <daftykins> that's why it's all about the SMART data table \o/
[20:14] <Jordan_U> esph: You should figure out how important the data that isn't backed up is to her. If it's very important then this may warrant you or someone else taking a trip in person to make sure that what's still accessible is salvaged as well as possible.
[20:14] <Jordan_U> esph: If it's not terribly important, then you can keep plugging along remotely.
[20:15] <esph> Jordan_U: so you're of the mind that it's a more serious problem? People seem to have different ideas about how bad the problem is. (I'm not calling anyone out here, just curious)
[20:15] <TJ-> esph: Have you asked your sister what happened immediately before this occurred? Was it from a cold boot where the PC had been switched off a while? If so, did it do a clean shutdown last time? Or maybe the PC spontaneously crashed and rebooted?
[20:15] <esph> Jordan_U: of course "safety first" is sensible, if that's what you're saying
[20:16] <TJ-> esph: it's a serious problem there is vital data with no backup, regardless of having a good, or bad, disk
[20:16] <auronandace> esph: if she has important work on it then it would be a plus if it is stored on dropbox or google drive or something similar
[20:16] <esph> TJ-: I know that, but it's difficult to convince people to be responsible with their data, unfortunately. Like I said, I know at least some of her stuff is backed  up.
[20:17] <auronandace> esph: online storage like that is good for backup
[20:17] <TJ-> esph: Ask her how she'd cope if the PC was stolen - I find that the best wake-up call
[20:17] <Jordan_U> esph: That's sort of what I'm saying. Put another way, if her only copy of her wedding photos are on this drive then you should pay a company to do professional data recovery on the drive just to be safe. If she'll be out her most recent additions to her stash of cute cat videos then you should just walk her through re-installing Ubuntu over the phone. If you don't know how important the data she would lose is, you ...
[20:18] <Jordan_U> ... should try to figure that out.
[20:18] <esph> Jordan_U: gotcha
[20:18] <bprompt> esph:     the error messages show mostly software errors, not I/O hardware errors as TJ-  pointed out, BUT, often times errors on hardware are just inherited from hardware errors, it just happens that the software errors surface before if any hardware issues exist, or becomes exacerbated
[20:19] <TJ-> bprompt: if the underlying cause was a hardware error, we'd probably see it on previous kern.log entries, if we could get to them :)
[20:19] <bprompt> TJ-:    yeap, better to have data backed up by then though =)
[20:19] <TJ-> Another great argument for a separate /var/ :)
[20:20] <TJ-> bprompt: agreed, but analysis is always better with data about what happened, rather than guessing after the fact
[20:21] <bprompt> esph:    anyhow, I mean, errors on software are inherited from hardware issues, so.. . either way, data can get corrupted and it does often times, so..... is not light issue :)
[20:21] <esph> TJ-: as for what happened before: The computer failed to suspend (screen just went gray/black, backlight still on), so my sister left it for a while and then turned it off and on, and it didn't boot.
[20:22] <TJ-> esph: OK, that makes me think the problem is just that the in-memory metadata block cache wasn't flushed to disk before the power went off
[20:23] <esph> TJ-: when I say a while, I mean overnight. Don't know if that makes a difference.
[20:23] <TJ-> esph: or, the disk was in the process of writing as power disappeared, resulting in an incomplete write
[20:23] <tiblock> if somebody is curious, loaded into live CD ubuntu 9.04 on celeron 1.0 GHz, 256mb ram, works very well
[20:24] <esph> tiblock: Lubuntu?
[20:24] <daftykins> tiblock: 9.04 is long since EOL though, that would be unsafe online
[20:24] <tiblock> esph, ubuntu
[20:24] <tiblock> daftykins, not a problem since netwrok card is not working for some reason :P
[20:25] <bprompt> tiblock:     1.0ghz should run it smooth, sure
[20:26] <auronandace> tiblock: did you end up trying a recent release, i'd be curious if you hit the PAE issue
[20:26] <tgm4883> auronandace: probably not, since his CPU supports PAE
[20:26] <tiblock> auronandace, i don't have CD disk writer in house, i will try network boot to install 14.04 so googling how to do that ATM
[20:27] <jackia> Hi everybody
[20:27] <bprompt> allo
[20:27] <auronandace> tgm4883: he said it was a celeron, my t40 had a celeron and that had an issue with booting from PAE
[20:28] <jackia> I want to install julia from here, but I dont know what should I do
[20:28] <TJ-> "forcepae"
[20:29] <k1l_> jackia: sudp apt-get install julia"
[20:29] <tgm4883> auronandace: ah, well. Since your celeron had an issue with it, then there's no reason to get any more info from him. I mean, 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' or 'lscpu' is obviously too much for that little CPU to handle
[20:29] <k1l_> jackia: sorry typo: "sudo apt-get install julia"
[20:30] <auronandace> tgm4883: i'm sorry my experienceis not enough to render adequate technical support, thank you for educating me
[20:30] <jackia> K1l_ thanks very much
[20:31] <tgm4883> auronandace: I'm just pointing out (in a rather pointed way since you didn't like my response earlier), that if you want to assist people in here, you should do a bit more legwork rather than just assume all booting issues on older hardware are due to PAE issues.
[20:31] <auronandace> tgm4883: noted
[20:32] <tiblock> I'm curious, what is faster, swap on 40gb HDD or mount swap over 100mbps network to somewhere
[20:33] <daftykins> the HDD
[20:33] <tgm4883> daftykins: +1
[20:33] <daftykins> though i almost typed "more RAM" first
[20:34] <tiblock> will install HDD benchmark and test speed
[20:34] <tgm4883> tiblock: but as others have pointed out earlier, performance on that is going to be  terrible
[20:34] <Jaglor> Only way the network could possibly be faster would be HUGE read/write edge cases and even then...
[20:34] <tiblock> tgm4883, i don't think it will be more bad than WinXP
[20:34] <TJ-> tiblock: local hard drive, even IDE interfaces can shift 10s of Megabytes of data per second, although for random read/writes the network might be faster and lower latency
[20:35] <n_blownapart> anyone ever have trouble installing vagrant on a late ubuntu system? I forget the distro number.
[20:35] <TJ-> 40GB HDD implies an older IDE interface, possibly UDMA66/100
[20:35] <Jaglor> your "somewhere" better be close, have no network collisions and zero system contention
[20:35]  * tgm4883 wonders what performs better, tiblock's machine or ubuntu on a rpi2
[20:36] <TJ-> tgm4883: we cn ask for the BogoMIPS :)
[20:36] <tiblock> tgm4883, i have RPi2, it is muuuuch faster than WinXP on that machine
[20:36] <tgm4883> lol
[20:36] <tgm4883> tiblock: what are you wanting to use this machine for anyway?
[20:37] <tiblock> tgm4883, person that owns this PC needs skype and photos
[20:38] <auronandace> tiblock: the skype in the ubuntu repos is 4.3, a bit old but it works
[20:39] <tgm4883> tiblock: *IF* you can find more ram for that and it supports more RAM you should have them buy more. But it's likely going to be cost prohibitive
[20:39] <TJ-> heads-up: 180Gbps DDoS from compromised Linux servers (check your logs!): https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/resources-web-security-threat-advisories-2015-xor-ddos-attacks-linux-botnet-malware-removal-ddos-mitigation-yara-snort.html
[20:41] <tiblock> clicked "start" in WinXP, it took 23 seconds to open, yay
[20:41] <herrkin> hello community
[20:41] <tiblock> and opening network interfaces was about 5 minutes
[20:41] <herrkin> I have a doubt about partitions
[20:41] <herrkin> my machine is an hp with efi
[20:41] <TJ-> herrkin: what doubt?
[20:42] <herrkin> I have installed ubuntu in it
[20:42] <herrkin> I realized I have more than 7 phisical partitions
[20:42] <TJ-> !enter | herrkin
[20:42] <herrkin> my swap doesnt mount
[20:42] <TJ-> !punctuation | herrkin
[20:42] <EriC^^> TJ-: ubottu is drunk tonight
[20:43] <TJ-> oh well! herrkin please write the issue on one line rather than using Enter key for punctuation, thanks :)
[20:43] <TJ-> EriC^^: So I am, it seems! :D
[20:43] <EriC^^> :D
[20:43]  * TJ- makes a strong coffee
[20:43]  * genii sneaks some
[20:44] <auronandace> herrkin: msdos partitioned drives allows 4 primary partitions, gpt partitioned drives allows more than 4
[20:45] <n_blownapart> still working on vagrant problem above. I get errors on the install.
[20:45] <herrkin> ok, on gparted there are 8 partitions. my machine came with 4 partitions already, I had to install ubuntu so i split the windows one redimentioned so I have some space for ubuntu and there it is. I have then one ext4 for / and a swap partition
[20:45] <EriC^^> herrkin: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:45] <herrkin> but the swap partition never mounts no matter what I do
[20:45] <TJ-> herrkin: swap is often configured as encrypted, that can cause some issues with mounting the swap device sometimes
[20:46] <herrkin> what is that EriC^^
[20:46] <TJ-> herrkin: check "/etc/crypttab" for a crypt_swap entry
[20:46] <EriC^^> herrkin: pastebins the output of blkid
[20:46] <VoidWhisperer> Anyone know a good way to change the launcher background color on ubuntu 14.04 LTS desktop? The launcher background looks ungodly ugly with the rest of my theme. xD
[20:46] <herrkin> ok
[20:46] <jackia> I installed julia with sudo apt-get install  julia , but can't open it
[20:47] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/4mef
[20:47] <EriC^^> herrkin: ok, and free -m | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:48] <jackia> I search julia but cant find anything
[20:48] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/36b6
[20:48] <auronandace> jackia: not sure what you mea by open it, it seems to be a programming language
[20:48] <EriC^^> herrkin: ok and cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:49] <auronandace> jackia: what happens when you type julia in a terminal?
[20:49] <jackia> so where I should give julia my program?
[20:49] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/degj
[20:49] <TJ-> herrkin: "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 "
[20:49] <jackia> thanks auronandace , I give it
[20:49] <TJ-> herrkin: show us "/etc/crypttab"
[20:50] <herrkin> cat that to termin too?
[20:50] <auronandace> jackia: typically programming languages are written in text editors or IDE's
[20:50] <TJ-> herrkin: please
[20:51] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/uzvn
[20:51] <dlam>  ehh there's a  linux-hwe-generic-trusty and a linux-hwe-virtual-trusty:   how do i kno what to pick? generic vs virtual?
[20:51] <jackia> auronandace it is command line , maby later I should install an IDE , thanks for your help
[20:51] <auronandace> jackia: no worries, have fun
[20:51] <herrkin> by the way I have tried mounting the swap manually once and it did but when I restart the machine it wont mount again.
[20:52] <EriC^^> herrkin: are you using an encrypted swap?
[20:52] <TJ-> herrkin: looks like you have too many entries :)
[20:53] <herrkin> I guess so, I don't remember to have that prompted
[20:53] <TJ-> herrkin: and none of them matches the UUID of the swap partition itself
[20:53] <herrkin> but I wanted to encrypt my home
[20:53] <herrkin> ok  good
[20:53] <herrkin> how can I fix that?
[20:53] <EriC^^> herrkin: shouldn't he have an encrypted root too?
[20:53] <TJ-> herrkin: do you know how to use a text editor with root privileges?
[20:54] <herrkin> yes
[20:54] <TJ-> herrkin: OK, open /etc/crypttab in a text edit, as root, delete all but the last line
[20:54] <EriC^^> TJ-: but shouldn't he have an encrypted root too? he's just using an encrypted swap?
[20:54] <TJ-> herrkin: then, on the remaining line replace the UUID=..... part with "UUID=f4ef6653-b73b-45e4-9446-fedda6aca2e1"
[20:54] <herrkin> done
[20:55] <TJ-> EriC^^: Ubuntu installs with encrypted swap by default, to protect it
[20:55] <EriC^^> what? O.o
[20:55] <TJ-> herrkin: save the file
[20:55] <herrkin> done
[20:55] <herrkin> its saved
[20:56] <herrkin> the computer keeps crashing from time to time I guess thats because it cannot use swap.
[20:57] <TJ-> herrkin: Then, at a terminal do "sudo cryptdisks_start cryptswap1" then  "sudo swapon" and then "cat /proc/swaps" to see if that was sufficient to start it
[20:58] <herrkin> swapon gave me a list like the help
[20:58] <TJ-> EriC^^: the reason for encrypting swap is that if it is used to hibernate the system memory image, someone can't examine the memory contents
[20:58] <brw31415> nub here, i have remote access to a 14. LTS ubuntu site, and i am using a chromebook. can it or i use a gui environment?  i installed an ide to ithe linux box.
[20:58] <herrkin> sure there is nothing else missing?
[20:58] <TJ-> herrkin: sorry, that should have been "sudo swapon -a"
[20:58] <fsocietyf> i want to change to Zsh how do i do this in ubuntu?
[20:58] <EriC^^> TJ-: yeah, but it's not default installer behavior!
[20:58] <TJ-> EriC^^: it has been on all the tests I've done since 14.04
[20:59] <fsocietyf> anyone help me out
[20:59] <herrkin> ok it is showing /dev/dm-0
[20:59] <EriC^^> that's odd, i've never had that on my install or any vm i've installed
[20:59] <herrkin> the /proc/swaps
[20:59] <TJ-> EriC^^: I always forget to set it up when I do a manual install
[20:59] <TJ-> herrkin: ok so swap is now active
[20:59] <TJ-> herrkin: at reboot it will start automatically
[20:59] <herrkin> it will start automatically when restart?
[20:59] <herrkin> ok I will try now
[20:59] <cameron> Anyone use slackware
[21:00] <herrkin> thanks a lot, I will be back if I have an issue.
[21:00] <auronandace> !topic | cameron
[21:00] <TJ-> herrkin: I'm not sure how you ended up with 3 entries in crypttab, or how the swap partition UUID had changed so much. Have you been manually recreating the swap with mkswap?
[21:00] <herrkin> I reinstalled ubuntu and kept the swap from the last one
[21:01] <herrkin> then trying to get it running I reformated the swap
[21:01] <herrkin> thats why
[21:01] <TJ-> herrkin: that'd do it :)
[21:01] <herrkin> yes thanks, restarting now
[21:03] <Jaglor> TJ-: Thank you for the git etc inotify idea.  I have it working under systemd now  :)
[21:03] <TJ-> Jaglor: cool :)
[21:04] <TJ-> Jaglor: did you add a git push to a central repo server too?
[21:04] <Jaglor> TJ-: umm, no.  In what instance would that be a good idea?
[21:04] <simon1764> Hi, by triyng to pull the desktop on the panel of the file mager I (accitendially?) pulled it over the trash bin, but the trash bin is empty and I receive a failure message everytime after I open the desktop (btw. I'm using the German version so the desktop is named "Schreibtisch")
[21:05] <brw31415> is it possible to access an ide remotely?
[21:05] <Jaglor> TJ-: I don't know much about git... but I guess if I was running an internal repo...
[21:05] <EriC^^> simon1764: so the Desktop dir disappeared?
[21:05] <auronandace> !vnc | brw31415
[21:06] <herrkin> hey TJ-  restarted, no swap.
[21:06] <EriC^^> simon1764: try ls ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[21:06] <simon1764> @eric
[21:06] <brw31415> thanks!
[21:07] <TJ-> herrkin: really!? has /etc/crypttab changed? has the UUID of the swap partition changed?
[21:07] <herrkin> I restarted the system, it is behaving identically as before it doesn't mount swap EriC^^ , TJ-
[21:08] <herrkin> let me see
[21:08] <EriC^^> herrkin: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:08] <TJ-> herrkin: which Ubuntu release is it?
[21:08] <SET001> how can I send output of multiple commands in single console and then to be able to kill all that commands with single ctrl+c or something? running commands with & can share console but then I have to kill them manually
[21:08] <herrkin> 14.04
[21:08] <TJ-> herrkin: thanks. if something is altering the UUID of the partition on each boot that'd break things
[21:08] <simon1764> @EriC^^  ls ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[21:08] <simon1764> (no results)
[21:08] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/8x53
[21:09] <EriC^^> herrkin: ok, try sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:09] <simon1764> I get an "Unbekannte Fehlermeldung: Fehler beim Holen der Informationen für Datei »/home/3/Schreibtisch«: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden" =
[21:09] <auronandace> SET001: would running them inside a screen/tmux session help? then you could just kill the session and everything in it dies
[21:10] <simon1764> 3 = username
[21:10] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/za0e
[21:10] <herrkin> there is no swap
[21:10] <EriC^^> yikes
[21:10] <herrkin> it doesnt recognize it.
[21:10] <SET001> auronandace, screens is something related to byobu?
[21:10] <herrkin> but if I open gparted its there
[21:10] <TJ-> herrkin: OK, I see the issue.
[21:11] <TJ-> herrkin: start editing /etc/crypttab again
[21:11] <simon1764> so this means unkown error, failure by getting the file /home/§USERNAME/Desktop/ file or dictionary not found
[21:11] <TJ-> herrkin: replace the entire "UUID=...." with "/dev/sda8" and save the file
[21:11] <auronandace> SET001: i'm not conversant with byobu sorry
[21:12] <TJ-> herrkin: now the encrypted swap is working, the partition no longer has a UUID so we have to give its actual device name
[21:12] <EriC^^> simon1764: try find ~/ -iname "Schreibtisch"
[21:12] <herrkin> it says /dev/urandom
[21:12] <herrkin> after the uuid
[21:12] <TJ-> herrkin: no, that's the keyfile source, leave that
[21:12] <herrkin> ok
[21:13] <TJ-> herrkin: it should read something like "cryptswap1 /dev/sda8 /dev/urandom ..."
[21:13] <herrkin> ok file saved
[21:13] <herrkin> swap on again?
[21:13] <simon1764> @EriC^^ now I recreated it with mkdir, so it will re
[21:13] <TJ-> herrkin: try a reboot, lets make sure it works from start
[21:13] <herrkin> ok good rebooting
[21:14] <korsakof__> Why does sda8 disappeared after reboot?
[21:14] <TJ-> korsakof__: ?
[21:15] <korsakof__> Just curious about herrkin case
[21:15] <SET001> auronandace, anyway - can you please make a simple hint on how can I use it in screen?
[21:15] <korsakof__> The second blkid did not contain sda8
[21:16] <TJ-> korsakof__: I think you're referring to the output from 'blkid' - when the sda8 partition was correctly in use it lost the UUID that was there previously, so later runs of 'blkid' won't report anything for it
[21:16] <korsakof__> Thanks!
[21:16] <TJ-> korsakof__: previously no encrpytion was happening so the partition contained a valid swap header that includes a UUID.
[21:16] <simon1764> @EriC^^ It reveals it at /home/$username/Schreibtisch/ but the data which was located at ~/Schreibtisch/Desktop is gone (not dramatical) but somehow strange, I just tried to place the Desktop in the file manager below all other entries and accitenially put it in the trash
[21:16] <herrkin> EriC^^, TJ- , Same thing again
[21:17] <herrkin> it says cryptoswap1 is not found I hit s to skip
[21:17] <simon1764> and the the trash is empty^^
[21:17] <TJ-> herrkin: Grrr! can you "pastebinit <( cat /etc/crypttab; sudo blkid /dev/sda8)"
[21:17] <ubuntu> Hi there, do you read me_
[21:18] <auronandace> SET001: i'm probably not the right person to ask
[21:18] <TJ-> herrkin: "cryptoswap1" with an 'o' in? that's a typo
[21:18] <TJ-> herrkin: it should be 'cryptswap1'
[21:18] <auronandace> SET001: i have very little experience in that area
[21:18] <herrkin> no I dont know exactly
[21:18] <TJ-> herrkin: show us the  "pastebinit <( cat /etc/crypttab; sudo blkid /dev/sda8)" and we'll see
[21:18] <herrkin> ok
[21:19] <Guest70650> hi guys, do you read me?
[21:19] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/dgmh
[21:19] <SET001> auronandace, I was thinking about running all needed commands inside grunt task - it will output to same console and will exit when I kill task but then I thought grunt is an overkill for my task
[21:20] <herrkin> TJ-, sudo blkid /dev/sda8 doesnt output anything
[21:20] <TJ-> herrkin: you forget to delete the "UUID=" part
[21:20] <TJ-> herrkin: Good - we don't want it to :)
[21:21] <herrkin> ok I need to delete uuid too
[21:21] <TJ-> herrkin: the entire line should be "cryptswap1 /dev/sda8 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256"
[21:21] <herrkin> ok restarting again
[21:21] <TJ-> herrkin: we only put UUID= in when we're referring to a device by its UUID.
[21:22] <herrkin> ok, those are new concepts to me I just thought we were replacing one value for another :D thanks
[21:22] <herrkin> rebooting
[21:23] <Guest70650> I'm thinking that I can't connect to IRC channel, do you read me?
[21:23] <auronandace> SET001: sounds like you know a lot more about it than me, sorry i'm not of much help
[21:23] <EriC^^> Guest70650: yeah
[21:23] <Guest70650> oh god thanks!
[21:25] <Guest70650> well guys i have a problem after installing Elementary OS and I'm just a newbie >S anyone can bring me a hand?
[21:25] <auronandace> !elemantary | Guest70650
[21:25] <auronandace> !elementary | Guest70650
[21:26] <Guest70650> Thank u
[21:27] <simon1764> @EriC^^ sorry, timed out, /home/$username/Schreibtisch revealed not results, i recreated the desktop dir with mkdir meanwhile
[21:27] <herrkin> EriC^^, TJ-, Wow, problem still there
[21:27] <pressure679> Are the number of process threads constant?
[21:27] <EriC^^> simon1764: ok, did you have any important stuff you needed?
[21:28] <TJ-> herrkin: That makes no sense; unless the swap service isn't running. Let me check on a 14.04 system as to how it is supposed to start
[21:29] <simon1764> @EriC^^ nope, but still strange that it didn't appear in the trash folder after I accidentially removed it by putting it over the trash bin
[21:29] <herrkin> TJ-, I dont have swap in gparted
[21:29] <EriC^^> simon1764: yeah
[21:29] <herrkin> it says unknown
[21:29] <TJ-> herrkin: can you pastebin /etc/default/cryptdisks
[21:30] <herrkin> I mean the partition is there but its not marked as swap
[21:30] <TJ-> herrkin: that's fine, the partition only contains what looks like random data
[21:30] <TJ-> herrkin: the swap device only shows up as a file-system once the encrypted device /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is active
[21:30] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/3agb
[21:31] <simon1764> @EriC^^ should I try to move the desktop in there again and file a bug report if it happens again?
[21:32] <TJ-> herrkin: can you pastebinit /etc/fstab
[21:32] <EriC^^> simon1764: yeah sure
[21:33] <herrkin> ok
[21:33] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/y362
[21:34] <simon1764> @EriC^^ ok, thanks, maybe it's something that occurs because of the translation of the directories
[21:34] <EriC^^> simon1764: maybe
[21:35] <maxtimbo> hey, I need to make sure a HDD is mounted on boot and create a "mount --bind --verbose" command on boot. This requires super user privileges. How do I do this?
[21:35] <TJ-> herrkin: just so I'm 100% sure, pastebinit /etc/crypttab
[21:35] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/lack
[21:35] <herrkin> lol lack..
[21:40] <maxtimbo> I disabled join/part msgs. Am I still connected?
[21:40] <TJ-> herrkin: OK, so everything is in place, but the mount scripts don't seem to be activating it. Can you check if the crypt device is there: "ls /dev/mapper/" - do you see a "cryptswap1" there?
[21:41] <herrkin> control  cryptswap1
[21:41] <Guest70650> in elementary channels people doesn't answer T_T I've installed this ubuntu based distro erasing everything in my mac disk. well, I turn on my lap and nothing happens, I'm here throw live usb try. I saw the partitions and it exists but my OS can't start by itself. if anyone can help me I will be happy. thanks.
[21:42] <TJ-> herrkin: AHA! the crypt device is there, so this is a mount issue
[21:42] <maxtimbo> Guest70650, you may need to set the bios to run the correct partition first
[21:42] <wileee> Guest70650, elementary OS has their own channel is all.
[21:43] <TJ-> herrkin: how are you determining there is no swap ?
[21:43] <herrkin> I mean the partitions are not marked as swap
[21:43] <Guest70650> maxtimbo: thank you very much, I'm sorry for disturbing you
[21:44] <herrkin> in the first command you asked me there was no /dev/sda8
[21:44] <Guest70650> I'll google it...again
[21:44] <herrkin> when I rebooted this time you asked me for a command, there is no /dev/sda8 there
[21:44] <TJ-> herrkin: the way to check is "cat /proc/swaps"
[21:44] <herrkin> oh and aslso free -m
[21:45] <herrkin> swap 0 0
[21:45] <herrkin> yeah that command shows only the field names
[21:45] <herrkin> no values
[21:45] <TJ-> herrkin: OK, so that confirms you have a mounting issue
[21:46] <TJ-> herrkin: try "sudo swapon -a" and then check again
[21:46] <herrkin> swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: read swap header failed: Invalid argument
[21:47] <TJ-> herrkin: ok, that makes it clearer now!
[21:49] <maxtimbo> is it possible to create a live usb that loads to grub so i can choose between 64 and 32 bit OSs?
[21:49] <TJ-> herrkin: try "sudo cryptmount --swapon cryptswap1"
[21:49] <herrkin> not found
[21:49] <herrkin> command not found
[21:49] <wileee> maxtimbo, any usb multiloader should work.
[21:50] <TJ-> herrkin: what does "which cryptmount" tell you?
[21:50] <herrkin> nothing
[21:50] <TJ-> herrkin: aha!
[21:50] <herrkin> its not installed it seems
[21:51] <TJ-> herrkin: "apt list cryptmount"
[21:52] <herrkin> cryptmount/trusty 4.5-1 amd64
[21:52] <TJ-> herrkin: It should show "cryptmount/trusty,now 4.5-1 amd64 [installed]"
[21:52] <TJ-> herrkin: "sudo apt-get install cryptmount"
[21:52] <TJ-> herrkin: and now you can reboot and it *will* work :)
[21:53] <herrkin> what it didnt install when I install the system?
[21:53] <TJ-> herrkin: actually, hang on!
[21:53] <TJ-> herrkin: lets check the other scripts are there before you reboot
[21:53] <herrkin> Target name "cryptswap1" is not recognized
[21:53] <herrkin> the output of the last command
[21:55] <TJ-> herrkin:  no worries. Your system now seems to be identical to my working systems
[21:55] <TJ-> herrkin: try the reboot :)
[21:56] <herrkin> ok rebooting
[22:00] <herrkin> TJ-, swap is on. the system threw the same error but after a couple of seconds it kept on going
[22:01] <herrkin> finally I checked the swap and its active
[22:01] <TJ-> herrkin: yes, that is expected. Mountall has to wait for the cryptswap1 device to appear
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[22:02] <herrkin> thanks a lot, I hope the laptop wont crash anymore. I guessed it was because of the swap. it kept freezing every time
[22:02] <TJ-> herrkin: the init system tries to run jobs in parallel, so mountall has to wait for the cryptmount service to complete before it can do its job, and you get a warning
[22:02] <herrkin> I couldnt even open 4 tabs on chrome
[22:03] <herrkin> TJ-, is it normal it has 0 used?
[22:03] <TJ-> herrkin: until the kernel needs to swap memory pages out, yes
[22:04] <herrkin> ok, how much is advised to have in swap?
[22:04] <TJ-> herrkin: once demand increases swap should start to be used
[22:04] <herrkin> I have 2gb
[22:04] <herrkin> 4gb of ram
[22:04] <NANOOK> help!
[22:04] <NANOOK> windows is not opening'
[22:04] <TJ-> herrkin: to support hibernation we usually recommend 1.25 x RAM, but if you're not hibernating 0.5 x RAM is fine
[22:04] <NANOOK> wait what?
[22:05] <herrkin> I do hibernating all the time, I just didnt know how much to do use in swap.
[22:05] <herrkin> then I edit the partitions, resize them to make it 1.25 the ram
[22:06] <NANOOK> can is speak to someone else you are making no sense!
[22:06] <SSRI> Can someone help me? I have stupid internet problem. PM me
[22:06] <NANOOK> manager please!
[22:06] <daftykins> NANOOK: you mean Windows the OS, or graphical windows in general?
[22:06] <maxtimbo> NANOOK, they're talking about someone else's issue. State your question with more detail so we might help you. If no one answers right away, just wait and be patient. Please don't flood the chat room
[22:06] <daftykins> SSRI: no, we don't do PMs here - you must ask in the channel
[22:06] <TJ-> herrkin: you'd need to do that, yes. Are you sure it does hibernation? hibernation needs a large swap area. Are you sure you don't put it in S3 Sleep mode (battery keeps RAM contents)
[22:06] <NANOOK> my microsoft got deleted when i tried inspalling ubuntu
[22:06] <bprompt> NANOOK:    may want to restate the issue, so we can see what you mean
[22:06] <daftykins> NANOOK: if it's really gone you'll need to do some data recovery if you want anything back
[22:07] <NANOOK> my windows microsoft was deleted somehow when i was trying to install ubuntu
[22:07] <herrkin> oh I think its just sleep mode TJ-
[22:07] <herrkin> then I dont need that I guess
[22:07] <maxtimbo> enjoy you're new OS and say goodbye to windows
[22:07] <NANOOK> OK WHOS GOING TO PAY FOR MY COUMPUTER REPAIRS???
[22:07] <TJ-> herrkin: Yes, I thought it would be.
[22:07] <daftykins> NANOOK: nobody.
[22:07] <TJ-> NANOOK: you are, by learning not to do the wrong thing :)
[22:07] <NANOOK> im filing a lawsuit
[22:07] <TJ-> !ot | NANOOK
[22:07] <NANOOK> your company broke my computer
[22:07] <daftykins> NANOOK: you are being childish, you have no recourse
[22:08] <NANOOK> wow you are super professional
[22:08] <herrkin> ok thanks a lot again, I will test the machine to see how it behaves now. if it crashes then its temperature or other factor.
[22:08] <TJ-> NANOOK: no, you broke your computer. Either be constructive or use another channel for your comments
[22:08] <NANOOK> expect to hear from my laywer
[22:08] <maxtimbo> NANOOK, good luck with that. You're going to waste your time and money.
[22:08] <NANOOK> fuck off
[22:08] <TJ-> !ops | NANOOK
[22:09] <k1l_> NANOOK: lets focus on solving issues in here
[22:09] <TJ-> genii: thanks
[22:09] <genii> np
[22:09] <TJ-> herrkin: good luck with it, I hope you can use more tabs in the browser now :)
[22:10] <herrkin> TJ- I used to have skype, virtual machines, docker, several tabs in the browser, sublime text, node.js a lot of those at the same time running
[22:11] <TJ-> herrkin: It didn't lose a stick of RAM did it? :D
[22:11] <herrkin> now imgagine how it feels to have a machine that with 2 big web apps freezes
[22:11] <herrkin> no, it didnt.
[22:11] <herrkin> in fact if I switch to windows I can do that
[22:17] <SSRI> http://pastebin.com/cdeiH58g
[22:18] <maxtimbo> It's totally possible to install windows alongside ubuntu without reinstalling Ubuntu, right? I remember that's the way I used to have to do it...
[22:19] <daftykins> maxtimbo: ideally Windows goes on first, you'd not have to repeat either no
[22:19] <TJ-> maxtimbo: Yes; the issue that causes problems on BIOS based PCs is that the last-installed OS takes over as the primary boot-loader. Windows doesn't acknowledge and work with other OSes, whereas Linux generally does via installing GRUB
[22:19] <daftykins> SSRI: depending on where you are, you are likely breaking the law - i personally will not help you with this, i think you should go speak to your neighbour and apologise personally.
[22:21] <maxtimbo> TJ-, so I would have to install grub2 if it hasn't been installed already
[22:21] <TJ-> maxtimbo: If you have Ubuntu you'll have GRUB installed as the boot-loader
[22:22] <maxtimbo> Sounds like only kind of a pain. I think I should be able to manage
[22:23] <TJ-> maxtimbo: if you install Windows after Ubuntu, it will remove grub's boot sector. You'll need a Live ISO to fix that afterwards
[22:24] <TJ-> maxtimbo: you can make it slightly easier by saving a backup of the boot sector before starting the Windows install, to make it quicker/easier to fix after
[22:24] <SSRI> daftykins, I understand, but their son knows what am I doing, i said to him that reason is experimental. So tehnicly whit his premision I aint breaking nothing. Even tho his parents pay the internet, and yes he is older than 18 (23)
[22:25] <daftykins> SSRI: i'm not interested in any of your own justifications, the facts are as i shared - this is wrong i'm afraid.
[22:25] <herrkin> TJ-, I once typed "free -m" using only  chrome visiting facebook. ram was 3gb occupied I killed chrome it went to less than 1gb, incredible.
[22:25] <SSRI> daftykins,  Ok man
[22:25] <maxtimbo> TJ-, cool, thanks. I just wish more steam games worked on Ubuntu as this is the only reason I am even considering Windows right now
[22:26] <TJ-> herrkin: some web applications use ridiculous amounts of memory
[22:26] <Bl4ck_Tig3r> :D
[22:26] <Bl4ck_Tig3r> i see kali linux 2.0 omg very slow
[22:27] <daftykins> Bl4ck_Tig3r: Kali is not supported here nor on topic
[22:27] <daftykins> !kali
[22:30] <maxtimbo> So I need to make sure a HDD is mounted on boot and then create a sym link with the command "sudo mount --bind" I understand I need to create a bash script for this operation, but the sudo part has me unsure because I really don't want to have to put my password in twice to log in...
[22:31] <maxtimbo> What would that script look like and where would I put it?
[22:31] <daftykins> can't you do that from fstab?
[22:32] <maxtimbo> daftykins, can you?
[22:32] <daftykins> not sure
[22:32] <teward> maxtimbo: why do you need the symlink though?
[22:32] <teward> maxtimbo: making sure a HDD is mounted at boot, that's an fstab entry.
[22:33] <teward> maxtimbo: but why would you need a symlink?
[22:33] <daftykins> must say the bind requirement sounds odd
[22:33] <teward> it is
[22:34] <maxtimbo> teward, I have the OS on an SSD and then I have a 3t HDD I want to keep all files, etc on. So I make sym links to Music, Documents, etc...
[22:34] <maxtimbo> because the ssd is pretty small
[22:35] <daftykins> ah so now we know the real task :)
[22:35] <daftykins> nah you're not going about that right, maxtimbo - mount it in fstab then make the symlinks
[22:35] <teward> ^ that
[22:36] <maxtimbo> ok, I get nervous with fstab because I know it's dangerous
[22:36] <teward> maxtimbo: note that if you intend to run executable files on *nix form those directories, you'll need a *nix compatible filesys for the executable bits
[22:36] <teward> maxtimbo: it's dangerous if you do it wrong, but if you do it right, it's the CORRECT way to do it
[22:36] <teward> maxtimbo: you're more likely to break things if you start messing with `mount` in scripts without knowing what you're doing it
[22:37] <maxtimbo> teward, I already formatted the drive to ect4
[22:37] <maxtimbo> ext4*
[22:37] <maxtimbo> ok so how do I do this? -- the correct way
[22:40] <amazoniantoad> I did a hard reset on my ubuntu laptop and now I can't detect my wifi card
[22:40] <amazoniantoad> How can I fix this?
[22:41] <noethics> anyone use f.lux? or equivalent?
[22:41] <daftykins> amazoniantoad: 'hard reset' ?
[22:41] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: Held the power button down until it shut off
[22:41] <daftykins> ah right
[22:41] <daftykins> what kind is it, internal to the laptop?
[22:41] <daftykins> sure it doesn't show up from "lspci" ?
[22:41] <_denis_> hi noethics
[22:42] <noethics> _denis_, hi
[22:42] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: I don't know. Should I run lspci? Or something more specific?
[22:42] <IRCJOE> hello guys i have ubuntu 15.04 but my vnc ( remote desktop has a security that i can not match how can i fix it )
[22:42] <IRCJOE> i dont' need security
[22:42] <SubMind> hello
[22:42] <daftykins> amazoniantoad: yep run that, are you online from that system now? such as with a network cable
[22:42] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: no
[22:42] <korsakof_> TJ-: thanks for herrkin swap debug. I learned a lot with it..
[22:42] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: I can if you need me to be
[22:43] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: I'll be running around the house in between questions to submit data and retrieve it here
[22:43] <daftykins> amazoniantoad: it'd make it easier to share the output of commands online, is all
[22:43] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: will do. please hold
[22:43] <herrkin> korsakof_, yeah me too
[22:44] <_denis_> ksobkowiak, hi
[22:45] <ksobkowiak> hi
[22:45] <_denis_> hi esteeb
[22:45] <_denis_> hi Foxy
[22:46] <Foxy> Hi
[22:46] <IRCJOE> any ideas guys
[22:46] <IRCJOE> i need to remove the type 18 encryption from my remote desktp
[22:47] <jr_> daftykins: here is my laptop. The output is: http://pastebin.com/aNz90r48
[22:47] <_denis_> no, sorry IRCJOE
[22:47] <daftykins> jr_: ok looks good, intel 6235... what interfaces do you see from "ip a" ?
[22:47] <Foxy> I feel very intimidated
[22:48] <IRCJOE> ohh man
[22:48] <Foxy> I'm literally just running xubuntu off of a flash drive right now
[22:48] <Foxy> lmao
[22:48] <korsakof_> IRCJOE: did you tried remmina?
[22:48] <_denis_> why Foxy?
[22:48] <IRCJOE> remmina no i will search on it thanks for the hint
[22:48] <jr_> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/Yne0Lycp
[22:48] <jr_> Foxy: ayyyy lmao
[22:49] <daftykins> jr_: try "sudo modprobe iwlwifi" then repeat "ip a" and you should see an extra interface
[22:50] <jr_> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/YQNAwJji
[22:50] <TJ-> jr_: what does "lspci -nnk -s 02:00.0" report ?
[22:50] <black> hi
[22:50] <daftykins> jr_: "cat /etc/issue" ? (single line so you can paste here)
[22:50] <black> hi guys
[22:51] <jr_> daftykins: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[22:51] <black> guys
[22:51] <daftykins> hmm so bit out of date
[22:51] <daftykins> jr_: see what TJ-'s gives you
[22:51] <black> mother fuckkers
[22:51] <daftykins> !ops | black
[22:51] <jr_> TJ-: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 [8086:088e] (rev 24) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 AGN [8086:4060]
[22:51] <_denis_> hello
[22:51] <TJ-> jr_: thanks... hang on whilst I cross-reference it
[22:51] <jr_> TJ-: thanks
[22:52] <maxtimbo> daftykins, teward I found this link http://code.seanodonnell.com/?id=74
[22:52] <bekks> tonyyarusso: may I pm you for a short question?
[22:52] <teward> maxtimbo: 404
[22:52] <maxtimbo> Is this the right way in your opinion
[22:52] <daftykins> maxtimbo: no
[22:52] <teward> maxtimbo: it's not the right way, no
[22:53] <daftykins> maxtimbo: do it as i mentioned :)
[22:53] <tonyyarusso> bekks: If it's an IRCish question, sure, if it's an Ubuntu question that should stay in channel.
[22:53] <TJ-> jr_ daftykins it's supported: "/lib/modules/3.13.0-62-generic/modules.alias:6116:alias pci:v00008086d0000088Esv*sd00004060bc*sc*i* iwlwifi"
[22:53] <bekks> tonyyarusso: It's an ircish question :)
[22:53] <jr_> TJ-: What do I do with that?
[22:53] <daftykins> TJ-: mmm i think it's missing modules on and old kernel, i was going to go with a dist-upgrade?
[22:54] <TJ-> jr_: try "sudo modprobe --verbose iwlwifi"
[22:54] <daftykins> jr_: i spotted you're on an old kernel anyway so your install is not up to date, i'd run a "sudo apt update && sudi apt dist-upgrade" if i were you
[22:54] <TJ-> daftykins: the issue is no moddeps. "could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.13.0-44-generic/modules.dep.bin'"
[22:54] <daftykins> so they're not there for that (old) kernel
[22:54] <_denis_> hello!
[22:54] <jr_> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/mm5NAsVa
[22:54] <daftykins> what does that mean? :)
[22:55] <daftykins> i was suggesting at least being up to date, no point fixing it for the -44
[22:55] <TJ-> jr_: do "sudo moddep --all"
[22:55] <jr_> daftykins: I think there was an issue with installing the newest kernel...couldnt boot after or something
[22:55] <TJ-> daftykins: there's no database of aliases that match device IDs to driver names
[22:56] <TJ-> jr_: sorry, typo!
[22:56] <jr_> TJ-: command not found
[22:56] <jr_> oh
[22:56] <jr_> lol
[22:56] <TJ-> jr_: do "sudo depmod --all"
[22:56] <daftykins> hmm ok, i'd still dist-upgrade personally but i shall let TJ- work his magic :)
[22:56] <jr_> TJ-: done
[22:56] <TJ-> daftykins: agreed, lets fix the moddeps first though
[22:56] <jr_> daftykins: haha alright
[22:56] <TJ-> jr_: now "sudo modprobe iwlwifi"
[22:57] <TJ-> jr_: this time it should silently return to the command line
[22:57] <jr_> TJ-: done
[22:57] <jr_> yes
[22:57] <daftykins> huzzah
[22:57] <jr_> AYYYY
[22:57] <jr_> its up
[22:57] <TJ-> jr_: ok now "ip -a" you should see the wlan if
[22:57] <jr_> wooooo
[22:57] <TJ-> daftykins: over to you :p
[22:57] <jr_> This is why I love #ubuntu
[22:57]  * TJ- goes for a coffee
[22:57] <jr_> Thanks TJ-
[22:57] <daftykins> ^_^ come to think of it i recall that depmod as a process when installing new kernels
[22:58] <daftykins> jr_: "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade" as before then
[22:58] <jr_> daftykins: o now onto dist upgrade?
[22:58] <jr_> running it now
[22:58] <jfarr> exit
[23:01] <Guest42772> im going to make them pay
[23:03] <_codepoet> Was the ‘open_by_handle_at’ syscall not present in  12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin) ?
[23:03] <bekks> _codepoet: if its a syscall, i bet it was.
[23:04] <_codepoet> I’m trying to use that in auditd, and from what I read, that should’ve been available in kernel 2.something (I lost the page)
[23:04] <_codepoet> but it complains about it not being know. When I switch to 14.x, it’s fine
[23:04] <bekks> _codepoet: it complains when doing what?
[23:04] <_codepoet> Using that syscall in auditd
[23:04] <Guest42772> those developers will pay for the virus they sent me in docker wiget!!!
[23:04] <_codepoet> Restarting audit daemon auditd. Syscall name unknown: open_by_handle_at
[23:04] <Guest42772> i found the key logger!
[23:05] <maxtimbo> daftykins, are spaces important in fstab?
[23:05] <bekks> _codepoet: are you tied to using 12.04?
[23:05] <bekks> maxtimbo: whitespaces, like space, tabs are.
[23:05] <_codepoet> For now yes  - our software is built on a VM made out of 12.04. We’re upgrading but it will be 6 months out
[23:06] <maxtimbo> bekks, my fstab entry: http://pastebin.com/jNjUU2Mz
[23:06] <bekks> Guest42772: which devs, downloaded your "widget" from where?
[23:06] <bekks> maxtimbo: Looks fine.
[23:06] <Guest42772> the repository
[23:06] <Guest42772> bekks i found it all!
[23:07] <bekks> Guest42772: "the repository" doesnt mean much. Provide details.
[23:07] <Guest42772> bekks sudo apt-get install docker or whatever that guy said to do!
[23:07] <Guest42772> i found the keylogger and its going to be analized
[23:07] <_codepoet> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/vivid/en/man2/open_by_handle_at.2.html#contenttoc5 says ‘These system calls first appeared in Linux 2.6.39.  Library support  is
[23:07] <_codepoet>        provided in glibc since version 2.14.’ .. but it doesn’t say if that is what Precise uses or if for some reason it was removed for LTS.
[23:08] <_codepoet> apologies for two lines
[23:08] <bekks> Guest42772: that will install docker itself and no "widget" whatsoever. So provide details on what you are talking about, avoid !, and consider full sentences please.
[23:09] <Guest42772> bekks there was a keylogger installed with it. i have the terminal txt to prove. this is going to be anal
[23:09] <Guest42772> analized
[23:09] <bekks> Guest42772: So provide your "terminal text" in a pastebin please.
[23:10] <bekks> I dont believe there was a keylogger in the repos.
[23:10] <bekks> UNLESS you are using some 3rd party repo.
[23:10] <_denis_> me too
[23:11] <_denis_> packages are pre-compiled, and they SHOLD be controlled before compilation
[23:11] <Guest42772> bekks: brandon@terrafusion:~$ bekks fucks men
[23:11] <Guest42772> bekks: command not found
[23:11] <Guest42772> brandon@terrafusion:~$ sudo apt-get install bekks-small-cock-in-my-mouth
[23:11] <Guest42772> [sudo] password for brandon:
[23:11] <Guest42772> Reading package lists... Done
[23:11] <Guest42772> Building dependency tree
[23:11] <jr_> daftykins: should I restart the computer?
[23:11] <bekks> Guest42772: I told you to use a _pastebin_, not spamming the channel.
[23:11] <_denis_> hi isene
[23:11] <bekks> !ops | Guest42772
[23:12] <Guest42772> bekks : stop this invasion at once
[23:13] <bekks> genii: thx, sorry for the noise. I'll readjust the troll detector.
[23:13] <genii> bekks: np
[23:14] <a_> hey guys. i downloaded the .deb file for google earth and after running the command 'dpkg -i google......' it failed to install. never mind it. now i am trying to install steam and i am getting the following error that is related to google earth: 'The following packages have unmet dependencies: google-earth-stable .....' what to do?
[23:14] <TJ-> _codepoet: it was added in commit becfd1f3754 in March 2011, so you ought to be seeing it in 12.04. Which architecture is the 12.04 ?
[23:14] <daftykins> a_: for steam, "sudo apt-get install steam" is all that should be necessary
[23:14] <_denis_> what?
[23:15] <_codepoet> TJ-: Linux ec2-52-21-5-201.compute-1.amazonaws.com 3.2.0-76-virtual #111-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 13 22:33:42 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:15] <_denis_> has just happened?
[23:15] <_denis_> genii what happened?
[23:15] <a_> daftykins, that's what i am running, but it talk about dependencies related to google earth
[23:15] <a_> it talks*
[23:16] <genii> _denis_: Abusive user was removed.
[23:16] <IRCJOE> guys how can i run remote desktop always just keepit running
[23:16] <wileee> a_, Not uncommon there are web pages addressing fixes per releases of google versions
[23:16] <tiblock> Guys, how do you think, can this card run lubuntu 14.04? http://vgamuseum.ru/gpu/weitek/weitek-power-9100/
[23:16] <_codepoet> Could it be that someone purposely removed the syscall from the  3.2.0-76-virtual kernel for whatever reason? I’m grasping at straws here ;)
[23:16] <a_> wileee, all i want is it to stop talking about google earth so that i will install steam
[23:16] <a_> i don't care about google earth anymore
[23:17] <_codepoet> I just don’t know how to even go about checking for that , to give this customer a definitive answer
[23:17] <_denis_> genii i thought that it was upset
[23:17] <_denis_> he*
[23:18] <wileee> a_, Ah, I see, sorry, what do an update and upgrade show, any held or broken packgs?
[23:18] <daftykins> a_: can you pastebin the actual output to http://paste.ubuntu.com to share here?
[23:18] <TJ-> _codepoet: try "grep 'sys_open_by_handle_at' /proc/kallsyms"
[23:19] <_denis_> a_ try sudo apt-get clean
[23:19] <brandon_> sudo apt-get install bekks-small-cock-inmy-mouth
[23:19] <Browser> Hello. I have a customer display connect through a USB cable in /dev/ttyACM0. When I do: echo "Text" > /dev/ttyACM0 until I don´t do cat /dev/ttyACM0 the text is not displayed. Why do I have to do cat? It used to work without running the cat command. With screen /dev/ttyACM0 it works with the echo command
[23:19] <_codepoet> TJ-: ffffffff811d10c0 T sys_open_by_handle_at  .. and ffffffff811c8b90 T compat_sys_open_by_handle_at
[23:19] <TJ-> _codepoet: so it is there
[23:20] <_codepoet> yeah, I looked at the headers before and saw references
[23:20] <_codepoet> I wonder if auditd is somehow not getting the right headers when it determines if there are proper syscalls?
[23:21] <a_> _denis_, already tried that
[23:21] <TJ-> _codepoet: how about the system libraries? "grep -rn 'open_by_handle_at' /usr/include/*"
[23:21] <a_> daftykins, give me a minute
[23:21] <_codepoet> Is there a way of testing out a syscall, other than grepping for it there? perhaps a tool I can give to this customer and say ‘hey look, your auditd problems are your own, the call is there'
[23:22] <tiblock> oh wow, installed that card in celeron 1.0GHz system, its working
[23:22] <tiblock> 1994 year made card, 2mb memory
[23:22] <_codepoet> TJ-:  yeah, that’s where I looked earlied. A few hits in there http://paste.ubuntu.com/12620079/
[23:22] <_codepoet> s/earlied/earlier/
[23:23] <TJ-> _codepoet: The customer with auditd is using the Ubuntu system you've described?
[23:23] <_codepoet> so all signs point to that its there. Is there a way of suppressing syscalls on the system at all, or do these two locations point to it definitiviely being a problem with Auditd?
[23:23] <_codepoet> TJ-: yes. They’ve installed the same version. http://thecloudmarket.com/image/ami-e2296b8a--ubuntu-images-hvm-ubuntu-precise-12-04-amd64-server-20150204#/definition
[23:24] <_codepoet> I verified their problem exists  on a  fresh install of the same AMI
[23:24] <_codepoet> then when I upgraded to 14, it worked fine
[23:24] <TJ-> _codepoet: I'm looking at the audit source code
[23:25] <TJ-> _codepoet: hang on! are you trying to audit the syscall itself?
[23:25] <_codepoet> I don’t have the version of audit that they’re using, unfortunately. Basically they are saying ‘hey guys, this is a pretty standard syscall  and has been for a bit, and we need it for infosec to be happy’
[23:26] <_codepoet> and it’s turning in to quite the myster for me and my low to mid level sysadmin abilities
[23:26] <_codepoet> s/myster/mystery/
[23:26] <TJ-> _codepoet: "Restarting audit daemon auditd. Syscall name unknown: open_by_handle_at" ... shouldn't it be "sys_open_by_handle_at" ?
[23:27] <_codepoet> TJ-: I tried both. Let me do it again just to be sure I am not crazy
[23:27] <brandon_> who wants to cum on my face?
[23:27] <TJ-> _codepoet: Oh!!!! This is a 64-bit kernel isn't it?
[23:27] <_codepoet> TJ-: Yes
[23:28] <TJ-> _codepoet: Doh! syscalls are 32 bit
[23:28] <brandon_> who wants to fuck me in the ass when i play with terminal?
[23:28] <_denis_> genii
[23:28] <TJ-> _codepoet: in the audit.rules you need "-F arch=b32" or similar
[23:29] <_codepoet> TJ-: ah ,right now its -a always,exit -F arch=b64 -S creat -S open -S openat -S truncate -F exit=-EACCES -k access -S name_to_handle_at
[23:29] <_codepoet> so I need to ‘down bit’ audit for it to work?
[23:29] <_codepoet> on trusty 64 bit, it works fine :/
[23:29] <_codepoet> trying this though!
[23:30] <_codepoet> ignor name_to_handle_at, that was leftover from a debug attempt
[23:30] <TJ-> _codepoet: check out "man 7 audit.rules"
[23:32] <TJ-> _codepoet: it could also be caused by the syscall numbers being different between 64-bit and 32-bit
[23:32] <_codepoet> TJ-: yeah still no dice :( tried with b32, with sys_open_by_handle_at, etc
[23:33] <_codepoet> TJ-: current rule line is:   “-a always,exit -F arch=b32 -S creat -S open -S openat -S truncate -S open_by_handle_at -F exit=-EACCES -k access"
[23:33] <_codepoet> and still get  * Restarting audit daemon auditd --  Syscall name unknown: open_by_handle_at
[23:34] <pigererz> _codepoet: you got it
[23:34] <_codepoet> I wish there was another way that we could test the syscall without including audit, to see if it itself is causing the issue
[23:34] <_codepoet> pigererz: hrm?
[23:35] <_denis_> just write a program
[23:35] <_denis_> _codepoet
[23:36] <_codepoet> I was hoping for something a bit more independent and more GNU so I can have the client do it themselves :P
[23:37] <daftykins> why can't the client just use trusty?
[23:37] <_codepoet> Becuase our software is built on top of precise for at least 6 more month
[23:37] <TJ-> _codepoet: I can reproduce here; working on it
[23:38] <_codepoet> TJ-: woo! I am not crazy!
[23:38] <_codepoet> TJ-: Thanks so much for your time thus far. I owe someone a beer ;)
[23:39] <pigererz> J
[23:39] <TJ-> _codepoet: This is weird; If I do "sudo auditd -f" it works!
[23:40] <_codepoet> that doesn’t look at rules
[23:40] <_codepoet> Afaik
[23:40] <_codepoet> rules come in via the init.d script
[23:41] <pigererz> But me a beer _codepoet
[23:41] <tachibana> help aptoncd is having troubles loading up my .iso file i backed up my system to with it
[23:41] <tachibana> google says the source of the problem is HAL
[23:42] <bekks> tachibana: so pastebin you errors, etc.
[23:42] <TJ-> _codepoet: hmm, maybe that is because the rules aren't read, you're right!
[23:42] <_codepoet> hehe
[23:43] <muka_> I have external usb drive that I want to mount at boot (fstab) but I get errors. After login, when I "mount -a" all works, so it looks like usb dev is not detected while booting. Anyone can help?
[23:43] <brandon_> muka_ suck my sudo cock
[23:44] <brandon_> _codepoet code your fingers into my ass
[23:44] <TJ-> _codepoet: OK, got it by calling auditctl -R manually
[23:44] <_codepoet> with the -S syscall?
[23:44] <_denis_> genii
[23:44] <tachibana> im not getting ANY errors
[23:45] <daftykins> _denis_: stop hassling ops please
[23:45] <TJ-> _codepoet: got it, as it fails now I'm reading the audit.rules! (this is with kernel 4.1 too)
[23:45] <brandon_> _denis_ cry to my small bull sack
[23:45] <tachibana> all i am getting is a blank file browser 'in program' that refuses to laod
[23:45] <tachibana> load my .iso*
[23:45] <brandon_> daftykins i am so horny right now
[23:45] <TJ-> !ops | abuse from brandon_
[23:45] <tachibana> because it doesnt work and therefore cannot 'find' my .iso
[23:46] <TJ-> _codepoet: if I have it failing with 12.04 on kernel 4.1, then it isn't a kernel issue
[23:46] <tachibana> my ubuntu install has ALL updates/upgrades
[23:47] <tachibana> and the software manager has only positive reviews for the app and displays it top priority among backup utilities
[23:47] <_codepoet> yea, I think something else is amiss, but I couldn’t find much online. Either no one uses this syscall, or there is a problem and people have been able to solve it without turning to the internet for help
[23:48] <TJ-> _codepoet: the code fails in src/auditctl.c::set_opt() with "rc = audit_rule_syscallbyname((struct audit_rule *)rule_new, optarg)
[23:48] <TJ-> _codepoet: switch case -1
[23:49] <tachibana> oh i see my problem, it must be all because my .iso must be burned to a CD or dvd media :/
[23:50] <_codepoet> I wish I knew enough about programming in the shell to write something that included the appropriate headers and proved to the client that this is a problem with audit
[23:50] <TJ-> _codepoet: not promising: "lib/deprecated.c:142:int audit_rule_syscallbyname(struct audit_rule *rule," (deprecated!)
[23:50] <tachibana> D:
[23:50] <_codepoet> that particular call is deprecated? odd that it doesnt speak to that
[23:52] <TJ-> _codepoet: that has led to "lib/lookup_table.c:89:int audit_name_to_syscall(const char *sc, int machine)"
[23:53] <_codepoet> im looking at the source now myself
[23:53] <TJ-> _codepoet: which selects on machine arch type to call found = x86_64_syscall_s2i(sc, &res) (if you don't have my suggested arch=b32
[23:54] <_codepoet> yea, I tried both b32 and b64, ala : -a always,exit -F arch=b32 -S creat -S open -S openat -S truncate -S open_by_handle_at -F exit=-EACCES -k access
[23:55] <agliodbs> hey, I'm trying to debug an upstart job which works fine when I run it interactively, but fails silently when I run it under upstart
[23:56] <Jordan_U> agliodbs: Please pastebin your upstart configuration.
[23:56] <agliodbs> there doesn't seem to be any way to capture the output of the daemon I'm trying to start though; upstart buries all logging
[23:57] <TJ-> _codepoet: and the answer. It isn't listed in "lib/x86_64_table.h"
[23:58] <agliodbs> Jordan_U: here's the current version http://pastebin.com/N2qMf8dd
[23:58] <agliodbs> feh, trailing "
[23:59] <agliodbs> fixed that, still the same issue
[23:59] <_codepoet> TJ-: Hrmmm.. then why does it work in trusty? because apt-get installs a newer version there?
[23:59]  * _codepoet goes to try it out