[00:06] <superm1> cyphermox: okay cool
[00:13] <superm1> cyphermox: if you want to push what you end up uploading to github, i can pull it into an 'ubuntu' branch to track at the debian packaging branch just so we have it in VCS until they can converge again after a debian FTP master lets it in to debian
[00:17] <RAOF> That is the most awesome bug “grub can't be installed on systems with more than 26 discs” :)
[01:47] <cyphermox> superm1: all I did was add an entry on top of your current git for "upload to wily". I'd really rather we have no delta at all, and I think there is no reason to have any
[01:47] <cyphermox> I made sure we'd still be at a lower version than what will land when it's through new.
[01:48] <cyphermox> i think I still had trouble building the packages because of the state of patches, maybe
[01:49] <cyphermox> superm1: have you tried starting from a clean tree and trying the rebuild the package?
[10:25] <ogra_> uhm, what ?
[10:25] <ogra_> why was ubuntu-core-config rejected ?
[10:26] <Laney> check your mail?
[10:26] <ogra_> didnt get one yet, but now snappy will be broken, half of the changeset was in livecd-rootfs
[10:29] <apw> ogra_, should those two not dep on each other in some way to prevent them migrating separatly if that is the case ?
[10:30] <ogra_> well, i wouldnt like to make livecd-rootfs depend on anything not used for building
[10:30] <apw> ogra_, no more thinking some kind of breaks or something
[10:30] <ogra_> ubuntu-core-config defines what paths on the resulting image are writable ...
[10:31] <ogra_> livecd-rootfs only manageds to build the image, but bits on it wont work now until u-c-c lands
[10:31] <ogra_> -d
[10:31] <apw> yep, i was hoping there was some way to represent this to prevent you getting broken in the future -- does not solve your current situation
[10:32] <ogra_> well, there are also seed changes involved ... its a triple place change :)
[10:32] <ogra_> not so easy to reflect that in packaging
[10:33] <ogra_> i just have to get u-c-c in before the next auto-build ...
[10:34] <ogra_> now if my mail server wouldnt be so broken i could see why it was rejected :P
[10:44] <infinity> ogra_: If you never got your mail, it was rejected for the bogus version number.
[10:44] <ogra_> nipickars !
[10:44] <ogra_> :P
[10:45] <ogra_> and no, i'm still waiting for my IMAP server to drop the load under 25 :P
[10:45] <ogra_> somehow that 200MHz/128MB/4200rpm PATA system starts showing its age
[10:45] <ogra_> :)
[10:45]  * ogra_ has a snappy replacement in the works, but not ready yet
[10:49] <ogra_> there you go :)
[10:49] <ogra_> (and now the mail got through as well)
[10:51] <apw> could someone reject linux-signed for me, i messed up the -v
[10:52] <infinity> apw: Er, no.
[10:53] <infinity> apw: Cause I accepted before you asked.
[10:53] <apw> infinity, never mind, i'll close the bug by hand ... no biggie
[10:53] <infinity> apw: Oh, just for the closure?  Yeah, no big deal.
[12:05] <Laney> that was a quick valgrind review
[13:27] <cyphermox> has anyone heard of a werewolf image yet for the slideshow? it would be nice to get that before the last few days before release :)
[13:30] <doko> chrisccoulson, are the aarch64 changes upstream for thunderbird?
[13:32] <doko> these seem to get dropped in the pending upload
[15:41] <cyphermox> davmor2: would you happen to have time to run your install again on your XPS13 so I know for sure that bcmwl is good now?
[15:44] <davmor2> cyphermox: sure is it in the latest daily or do I need to install something?
[15:44] <cyphermox> daily should be fine, let me check
[15:45] <cyphermox> yup
[15:50] <Laney> cyphermox: for a werewolf I guess you want design (and willcooke might be able to help you find someone)
[15:50] <cyphermox> Laney: ah?
[15:51] <Laney> mostly guessing - i've not been involved in this in the past (IIRC)
[15:52] <cyphermox> Laney: I just know we always tend to do this wayy late in the release ;)
[15:54]  * willcooke speaks to design
[15:55] <Laney> cyphermox: quick, put it on your calendar for 5 months from now
[15:57] <Laney> I almost said "put it on the beta checklist" :)
[15:57] <cyphermox> no, we need that earlier. perhaps there is already something somewhere too, I just have no idea and I figure it was better to point it out now than one week from release
[15:58] <Laney> so put a reminder to yourself to get it sorted early next time?
[15:59] <cyphermox> *earlier*
[15:59] <cyphermox> last time was later than now ;)
[16:08] <Laney> thanks willcooke ;-)
[16:08] <Laney> could you maybe add it to that reminder of yours to get a refreshed slideshow too (at least the welcome page)?
[16:08] <davmor2> cyphermox: step one passes it shows up in additional drivers in live cd, Now I'll reboot and run an install and ensure it is install automagically \o/
[16:11] <cyphermox> davmor2: yay
[16:12] <cyphermox> I did one more upgrade test earlier to make sure modemmanager was good, and it seems to be
[16:12] <davmor2> cyphermox: pfff
[16:12] <cyphermox> if you disagree by all means tell me I did the test wrong ;)
[16:13] <davmor2> cyphermox: you did the test wrong ;) I'll give it go after and confirm for you :)
[16:15] <cyphermox> ahha
[16:21] <Laney> doko: ↑
[16:22] <davmor2> cyphermox: I can haz wifi on the installed system \o/
[16:22] <cyphermox> davmor2: great.
[16:25] <davmor2> cyphermox: can you try something for me on a fresh wily, open firefox, close it, open libreoffice and close it, and then open the dash.  It should be FF on the right and then libreoffice right?   Now open nautilus and close that, it doesn't show up but now FF is on the left of LO right?
[16:26] <cyphermox> ok, just a second
[16:28] <cyphermox> what do you mean by fresh, does it need to be recently-installed?
[16:30] <davmor2> cyphermox: it will likey happen regardless
[16:30] <davmor2> cyphermox: mine was a fresh install so I always go by what I had done :)
[16:30] <cyphermox> davmor2: I can confirm your assessment makes sense, it should be in reverse chronological order; when I do that I initially have just firefox, no libreoffice, and then when I open nautilus I get libreoffice listed in the dash, but not nautilus or firefox anymore
[16:31] <cyphermox> ah, firefox is at the very end of the list behind "6 additional results"
[16:32] <davmor2> cyphermox: weird thought right nautilus shouldn't move another apps position right?
[16:32] <cyphermox> yeah, it should be in the dash, as the very first item
[16:32] <cyphermox> (ie. the latest opened app
[16:33] <cyphermox> I'm not sure where you get that this must be in reverse chronological order though, maybe it's not the case
[16:33] <cyphermox> I don't know what order is would be otherwise though
[16:33] <cyphermox> it certainly isn't alphabetical
[16:35] <davmor2> cyphermox: no no, I opened FF first, so it showed in the dash, I then opened LO, that appeared to the left of FF.  This I expect.  I then opened nautilus, Nautilus didn't show up in the dash but FF was now to the left of the LO not the right as expected
[16:36] <cyphermox> right
[16:36] <cyphermox> well, I get a different order of things and nautilus never gets in the list
[16:36] <cyphermox> but it doesn't make any more sense.
[16:38] <davmor2> cyphermox: that's my point, if you open the dash look at the order, close the dash and open the dash the order doesn't change at least for me it doesn't, it's only after hitting nautilus that it changes
[16:40] <davmor2> cyphermox: it's like opening nautilus randomises your app list
[16:52] <willcooke> cyphermox, Laney - I have a werewolf for you
[16:52] <cyphermox> yay
[16:52] <willcooke> It's in a zip file, so email ok?
[16:52] <cyphermox> of course.
[16:53] <willcooke> cyphermox, on its way
[16:54] <Laney> AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[16:54] <willcooke> :)
[16:59] <Laney> that werewolf is scary
[17:18] <davmor2> cyphermox, jibel: so that is good news, xps upgrade worked well not stalls for modemmanger \o/ and also no issues with wifi in the live system or the installed one \o/
[17:18] <cyphermox> awesome
[17:18] <cyphermox> now to keep fixing everything else ;)
[17:19]  * davmor2 goes off to break some more stuff as cyphermox seems far to pleased with himself
[17:19] <cyphermox> davmor2: did you ever run into that timezone crash?
[17:21] <davmor2> cyphermox: nope but aren't most of the issue for that being reported from russia?
[17:21] <cyphermox> not all
[17:21] <davmor2> cyphermox: fix it!!! I still see the monkey in the help window should be a werewolf by now ;)
[17:21] <cyphermox> heh
[17:22] <cyphermox> zug zug!
[17:23] <davmor2> cyphermox: do we have any ideas when the final artwork is landing I thought it had landed by now?
[17:24] <cyphermox> I don't know
[17:24] <davmor2> infinity, jibel: any ideas on the final artwork? ^
[17:24] <cyphermox> is there an artwork freeze? :)
[17:25] <ogra> just paint it over ...
[17:25] <cyphermox> davmor2: as I understand, we already have the right wallpaper
[17:26] <davmor2> cyphermox: indeed but if you open the help app, from the settings indicator it is the monkey not werewolf icon
[17:26] <cyphermox> right, this will need to be changed, but one thing at a time
[17:26] <cyphermox> also, wow, does that logo look menacing ;)
[17:27] <jibel> davmor2, is it just to update the vervet to a werewolf?
[17:27] <cyphermox> davmor2: so, what settings indicator so we can file a bug about it?
[17:28] <jibel> davmor2, last time infinity used his gimp skills to do the update
[17:28] <cyphermox> jibel: looks like we have a vectorized werewolf now
[18:05] <cyphermox> jibel: want to review my changes?
[18:05] <cyphermox> https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/werewolf/+merge/272961
[18:13] <davmor2> jibel, cyphermox: yeah it's the yelp app I believe just the front page of ubuntu help from the system/settings/session indicator whatever it's called nowadays
[18:14] <cyphermox> yelp?
[18:14] <cyphermox> you mean "about this computer?
[18:14] <cyphermox> nevermind
[18:14] <cyphermox> the help, I see
[18:14] <davmor2> cyphermox: no the one under that that says Ubuntu Help ;)
[18:15] <cyphermox> yep, I see
[18:15] <cyphermox> I have no idea what ships that :)
[18:15] <davmor2> cyphermox: the app itself I believe is yelp
[18:15] <cyphermox> yeah, it rings a bell
[18:15] <davmor2> and it is as I start it from the terminal
[18:16] <davmor2> cyphermox: no idea where it gets the artwork from though
[18:16]  * cyphermox greps
[18:21] <cyphermox> davmor2: the mouse-over image changes are scary
[18:24] <jibel> cyphermox, this is beautiful ;)
[18:27] <cyphermox> weee
[18:28] <cyphermox> scary though :)
[18:28] <cyphermox> we should move the release date a few days forward to hit halloween.
[18:28] <davmor2> cyphermox: This must be lost in translation does Scary mean Awesome in Canada?  You know like bad is good?
[18:28] <cyphermox> davmor2: so, looks like it's ubuntu-docs and already updated to have the right mascot
[18:29] <cyphermox> davmor2: Yes?
[18:29] <davmor2> cyphermox: hmmmm then why it is not displaying the right mascot I wonder
[18:29] <cyphermox> not uploaded yet
[18:29] <davmor2> cyphermox: ah okay
[18:29] <cyphermox> it's unreleased, in the bzr branch
[18:30] <davmor2> cyphermox: ah okay
[18:30] <cyphermox> at least it's ready
[18:30] <davmor2> as long as it isn't forgotten
[18:46] <superm1> cyphermox: i didn't have any issues building in a clean tree back to back
[18:47] <superm1> cyphermox: i agree it would be best to avoid no delta, but if it ends up being a necessary evil, just want to make sure it's tracked
[18:51] <cyphermox> superm1: yep, no problem
[18:52] <cyphermox> so far, no delta, but I'll keep you aware if we need any changes -- hopefully there won't be anything that wouldn't also apply to Debian
[18:53] <superm1> Okay.  Yeah, presumably can just put whatever else is needed in the UNRELEASED entry for Debian for now to do on the next upload once it clears NEW
[19:25] <coreycb> release team,1:5.0.0~rc1-0ubuntu2 re-introduces some binary packages ( ceilometer-agent-{central,compute,ipmi} ) that were dropped in 1:5.0.0~rc1-0ubuntu1
[22:53] <dannf> ^ can someone reject that first libguestfs trusty upload? I forgot to update-maintainer :( 2nd upload fixes.
[22:58] <doko> dannf, done
[22:58] <dannf> doko: thx!