[03:31] <Argaz> hello everyone, is there someone there?
[03:31] <Stanley00> Argaz: I see many here... j/k
[03:33] <Argaz> can someone help, i have a nexus 7 table with 5.1.1. i tried everthing to install ubuntu touch but without vain, any suggestions?
[03:35] <Stanley00> Argaz: what is your version of N7? and you can check here if it's supported https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[03:35] <Argaz> android 5.1.1
[03:36] <Stanley00> Argaz: I mean Nexus version, not android. As N7 has 2 verison 2012 and 2013.
[03:38] <Argaz> 2013 nexus 7 wifi only
[03:38] <Stanley00> Argaz: what did you try to install ubuntu touch then?
[03:39] <Stanley00> Argaz: so, it should work fine with ubuntu-device-flash
[03:39] <Argaz> the table is rooted with multirom and when i try to install ubuntu touch it keeps failing.
[03:43] <Argaz> i used ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu --bootstrap. it comes back with an error saying it can not find channel
[03:45] <Stanley00> Argaz: I'm not sure about the multirom since I've never used it. But about ubuntu-device-flash, are you sure your device is nexus 2013 wifi only? or in other words, did ubuntu-device-flash detect it as codename flo?
[03:47] <Argaz> i am sure when i type ADB device it shows on my the system says it
[03:48] <Stanley00> Argaz: can you try with "ubuntu-device-flash touch --device=flo --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu --bootstrap" ?
[04:05] <shuai> yes
[04:30] <argaz_> this is the error i am getting when trying to install ubuntu touch on nexus 7  tabletwith 5.1.1  Device grouper not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu
[04:30] <argaz_> anyone, please help
[04:31] <argaz_> anyone there?
[04:31] <Stanley00> argaz_: look like your nexus is 2012 version, the offical repo support verison 2013 only
[04:31] <argaz_> is there a fix?
[04:33] <Stanley00> argaz_: you may need to port, no official support atm, you can try searching the xda forum for the port or do it yourself
[04:34] <argaz_> is there an alternate for unbuntu touch, any kind of linux?
[04:35] <Stanley00> argaz_: android is one kind of linux already.
[04:36] <argaz_> i am looking for something similar to ubuntu that has more functionalities
[04:39] <Stanley00> argaz_: I think the multirom app can list many for your N7. Maybe debian or ubuntu desktop will be listed there.
[04:40] <Stanley00> argaz_: I have to go now, and multirom is OT here. Good luck to you.
[04:40] <argaz_> no listing of any kind of linux, thank you for your help
[04:46] <RAOF> argaz_: grouper means you've got a 2012 Nexus 7, which is unsupported.
[04:46] <RAOF> Urgh, sorry. Misread backscroll.
[04:47] <argaz_> is this mean i can not install ubuntu touch on it? if i flash andoid 5.1.1 and downgrad would that work?
[04:49] <RAOF> No.
[04:49] <RAOF> Your hardware is unsupported.
[04:49] <RAOF> It would require code changes (and for you to build your own image) to run Ubuntu Touch on your nexus 7.
[04:59] <argaz_> can ubuntu touch be installed on 10" Rca tablet model # rct6203w46? anyone please
[05:16] <Stanley00> argaz_: you can check if your device is supported via this url https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[07:43] <dholbach> good morning
[07:52] <tathhu> morning :3
[07:52]  * tathhu back to afk :/
[08:33] <MrPickles> hello guys
[08:38] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy International Translation Day! 😃
[08:56] <Sleep_Walker> hi
[08:57] <Sleep_Walker> I guess that you're aware of problems with internet connection when travelling (moving between BTS), right?
[09:47] <binar> Hi, I'd like to try out ubuntu touch on a amd64-system (before going into porting to a ARM system). Should I use aosp_x86-eng or vbox_x86-eng?
[11:19] <binar> trying to compile ubuntu for aosp_arm I  get host SharedLib: libEGL_translator (/home/benedikt-hbo/smartphones/phablet/out/host/linux-x86/obj/lib/libEGL_translator.so)
[11:19] <binar> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
[11:21] <binar> manually adding -L$PHABLET/prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/host/i686-linux-glibc2.7-4.6/sysroot/usr/lib to the gcc-call helps
[11:22] <binar> Is is possible there is something missing in one of the Makefiles?
[12:13] <mcphail> Is anyone else finding the "swipe right then delete" action for many list items isn't working (e.g. bookmarks in browser or alarms in the clock app)?
[12:15] <mcphail> Does anyone know what component I should be searching to find/report bugs?
[12:17] <anpok_> canonical-system-image is one of the major starting points
[12:17] <jgdx> mcphail, uitk provides some (most?) swipe-to-deletes
[12:17] <mcphail> Cheers guys
[12:18] <jgdx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[12:20] <mcphail> Ta. Checking now
[12:29] <mcphail> A lot of bugs open there, but I can't find this one. Can anyone on a dev channel check to see if ti happens for them, just in case it is fixed? If not, I'll file
[12:31] <mcphail> Make a new alarm in the clock app. Slide the alarm to the right, just enough to bring up the trash icon and let it go. Now click on the trash icon. The icon will disappear but the alarm will remain. Now try dragging the alram far enough to the righ so the trash icon reaches the middle of the screen and repeat. this time the alarm delates with the icon
[12:56] <Smilex> Is it possible to install Ubuntu Touch on my Samsung Galaxy S5?
[12:57] <binar> Smilex: no
[12:58] <victor_bq> one question!
[12:58] <ogra_> Smilex, after you created a port (pretty advanced task) it surely is ... i doubt there is any working recent port for it
[12:58] <ogra_> !devices
[12:58] <ubot5`> You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[12:58] <victor_bq> does Krillin and Vegeta support hash numbers?
[12:58] <Smilex> I've looked over the devices list, but I see people have actually done it
[12:59] <victor_bq> one customer asked us about it
[12:59] <ogra_> Smilex, right, but most likely stopped doing it long enough ago that it isnt usable with todays images
[12:59] <Smilex> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je7G5OJ0Y0E <- Here for example.
[12:59] <ogra_> victor_bq, can you be more specific ?
[13:00] <binar> ogra_: do you know if there are any leftovers of those attempts?
[13:01] <ogra_> binar, if there are, they should be linked from the wikipage above
[13:01] <victor_bq> well, a customer obsessed with security asked us about if is possible having hash numbers
[13:01] <victor_bq> just that
[13:01] <Smilex> ogra_: It is still the Linux kernel right? Android is using the same kernel
[13:01] <binar> ogra_: they aren't, just some "Sam W." is mentioned
[13:02] <victor_bq> but I'll ask for more info
[13:02] <ogra_> victor_bq, well, the md5sum and sha*sum tools are definitely installed ....
[13:02] <binar> Smilex: ubuntu touch uses a modified android kernel, which itself is a heavily modified linux kernel
[13:03] <Smilex> binar: Right there you said that Ubuntu uses the android kernel
[13:03] <ogra_> Smilex, it uses the android kernel with ubuntu patches on top ... and it uses the binary drivers from android to get the HW working, for this it runs a very minimal android-hardware-apstraction layer inside of an lxc container ...
[13:04] <binar> ogra_: if there was a link, I wouldn't ask ;-)
[13:04] <ogra_> porting means to build the content of this minimal container from the android source for your device
[13:04] <Smilex> ogra_: I did not know that Android was full of binary blobs
[13:04] <ogra_> it is :)
[13:04] <Smilex> well then it makes sense that it isn't reliable
[13:04] <ogra_> sensor dirvers, graphics drivers ... GPS
[13:05] <binar> ogra_: I would rather say "it is :("
[13:05] <ogra_> nearly everything for the HW is binary
[13:06] <Smilex> ogra_: I guess it was naive of me to think otherwise
[13:10] <binar> How can I use the hardware keyboard inside the ubuntu touch emulator?
[13:11] <ogra_> i dont think thats wired up in any way
[13:14] <binar> ogra_: Ok, thought it would be somehow similiar to the android emulator
[13:14] <ogra_> it is the android emulator underneath
[13:18] <mterry> oSoMoN, sorry for the flood of webbrowser-app bugs  :)  I've just been dogfooding it on desktop and have noticed various nits
[13:21] <binar> ogra_: I assume there's just a keymap missing: <Esc> gives '&', <F3> gives '{', so adding some keys shouldn't be hard. Maybe I'll search for the code later.
[13:21] <ogra_> cool
[13:25] <oSoMoN> mterry, don’t be sorry, dogfooding, feedback and bugs are very welcome!
[13:26] <oSoMoN> thanks for using it (and for your contribution too)
[13:54] <binar> ogra_: I just had to add hw.keyboard=yes to development/tools/emulator/skins/HVGA/hardware.ini
[13:55] <ogra_> HVGA ?
[13:55] <ogra_> i thought it uses EDGE
[13:58] <binar> ogra_: I just dig into ubuntu touch. What do you mean?
[13:59] <ogra_> there shoould be an EDGE skin for the touch emulator
[14:02] <binar> ogra_: ok, using -skin EDGE on the commandline resulting in reading HVGA is odd
[14:09] <binar> ogra_: emulator output is at https://www.cvh-server.de/~bwildenhain/ubuntu/ubuntu-emu-201509301607
[15:04] <kalikiana> rhuddie: FYI found the problem. syntax error.... I hereby declare inline qml my arch enemy because it didn't show an error.... thanks for your help, though
[15:06] <rhuddie> kalikiana, oh great, well at least problem is solved
[15:25] <maggots> hello
[15:25] <maggots> anyone seen maps.me
[15:26] <maggots> offline maps someone should mak an app for ut
[15:27] <maggots> forever alone :(
[15:42]  * justCarakas pats maggots IEW
[16:47] <maggots> any canonical devs in here?
[16:48] <k1l_> yes, but some may be sleeping in their offices :)
[16:48] <davmor2> maggots: yes
[16:48] <mcphail> maggots: you can try the trigger word "appdevs" in #ubuntu-app-devel
[16:49] <k1l_> maggots: but if you ask a specific question people can see if they can help
[16:49] <maggots> basically maps.me have opensourced the app and maps it's basically offline maps don't know if you have heard
[16:50] <k1l_> maggots: then make a app :)
[16:50] <maggots> would make a cool app for the phone since we have nothing like it, google maps is a dud and nokia maps is not great
[16:51] <ogra> sounds like a great first project for you then maggots ;)
[16:51] <maggots> i can't make the app i don't know c++ it a qt/qml app anyway so why dont canonical make one
[16:51] <maggots> i have two apps on the store already
[16:52] <davmor2> maggots: because we have a maps app already why do we need another.
[16:52] <maggots> a very poor (unfinished) game and a web app for proton mail
[16:53] <maggots> i don't know any C++ all i know is python, html javascript and java
[16:53] <maggots> all i'm saying is it's a cool app and if they need maps this is it.
[16:55] <ogra> QML isnt C++ :)
[16:56] <ogra> it is rather javascript ...
[16:56] <maggots> i know but the back end all i know is they os it today
[16:57] <maggots> heres the github page: https://github.com/mapsme/omim
[16:59] <davmor2> maggots: it's just OSM with an algorithm we have several apps in the store that can do that
[17:00] <maggots> yes but lets you download entire countries and view offline do we have that?
[17:01] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, hey, I just filed https://launchpad.net/bugs/1501428 , do you know who I could bug about it?
[17:01] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1501428 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "TrustStoreModel fails to expose application name for non-click app" [Undecided,New]
[17:02] <davmor2> maggots: https://uappexplorer.com/app/osmscout.fransschreuder
[17:05] <maggots> davmor: i downloaded it and it says no map available, dud app
[17:07] <maggots> ok so how would i view .mwm in the sdk? i know nothing about this format
[17:12] <davmor2> maggots: you need to install the map first from the selection of countries and states
[17:23] <maggots> I cant do it someone more Knowledgeable than me will have to do it.
[17:25] <dobey> what is an .mwm?
[17:25] <dobey> btw, #ubuntu-app-devel is probably a better place to ask about app devel :)
[17:25] <ogra> its a suffix
[17:25] <ogra> that someone made up :)
[17:25] <maggots> who knows :(
[17:26] <dobey> it's some file created by maps.me
[17:27] <maggots> they were a paid service now they have OS the code, but it's a mess
[17:28] <dobey> oh well
[17:29] <dobey> the internet is full of messy code
[17:30] <maggots> is it true that ubuntu phone uses the modified android kernel?
[17:32] <dobey> it's how the drivers work, yes
[17:32] <dobey> a minimal android container is used to manage the hardware
[17:32] <maggots> do you have the bq or the mx4?
[17:33] <dobey> i don't. i have a nexus4
[17:33] <maggots> oh nice can you dual boot?
[17:34] <dobey> on devices that are supported both by MultiROM and Ubuntu, yes
[17:34] <dobey> i don't though. this nexus4 only has ubuntu on it.
[20:06] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, i saw your bug link earlier, i might have a fix
[20:06] <kenvandine> waiting for debs to test
[20:07] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, yeah, I was just looking at your merge request, thanks for working on it so promptly, I’ll test on my side as soon as there are debs available
[20:07] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, thx