[05:49] <faceless_polpiem> hello guys
[10:02] <jamespage> thedac, gnuoy: https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/trusty/rabbitmq-server/status-check/+merge/273037
[12:07] <jamespage> thedac, gnuoy: I'm pretty happy with that MP for rmq as a v1 for status - appears to work nicely
[14:30] <thedac> jamespage: I'll review that today. I am working on some bug fixes for rabbit at the moment.
[19:32] <IceyEC> with a juju bundle, if the bundle includes a charm that is already deployed in an environment, will the bundle use the existing charm or deploy a new copy?
[19:41] <trondvh> The documentation for the vmware provider states "which supports VMWare's Hardware Version 8 or better", but it looks like the OVA file is hw version 10? Is there a workaround the get the provider working for ESX 5.1?
[19:52] <beisner> IceyEC, i believe it will use the charm already deployed (cached on the state server), unless you do a juju upgrade-charm.   but, someone confirm i'm not speaking rubbish ... lazypower <?  :D
[19:52] <lazypower> trondvh, I would recommend contacting the mailing list with that question so the core devs who have done the VMWare integration can address that. Our core team is pretty distributed and in EU timezones.
[19:53] <jamespage> thedac, hey - just a minor polishing point but 'messaging' reads better than 'message' - we can push that as a trivial
[19:53] <lazypower> IceyEC, juju-deployer will do so, so long as the charm revision has been updated in the bundle file.
[19:53] <trondvh> lazypower: Ok. Thanks.
[19:54] <lazypower> IceyEC, juju quickstart doesn't seem to diff the environment, but as i understand it support for that is on the roadmap, jsut not a priority at this time, as deployer handles it nicely.
[19:55] <IceyEC> so if I did a juju quickstart, would it look like it would deploy new copies and then the juju-deployer would end up handling the combining?
[19:55] <lazypower> it wont actually deploy
[19:55] <lazypower> it errors if services exist in the topology with names that are defined in the bundle :(
[19:56] <IceyEC> :(
[19:56] <IceyEC> well, thanks anyways lazypower beisner
[19:56] <IceyEC> !
[19:56] <lazypower> however.. deployer!
[19:56] <lazypower> deployer has support for that, and it will upgrade if the charm rev is + whats in the environment
[19:57] <lazypower> s/+/>
[20:03] <IceyEC_> cool lazypower!
[20:06] <thedac> jamespage: ok
[22:29] <thedac> jamespage: actually, I do not have commit privs yet. Do you want MPs for the s/message/messaging change?