[00:01] <teward> anyone know what the correct upstream project for libkpeople is, if any?  (I asked because it landed on ubuntu-quality ML)
[00:01] <sgclark> hmm
[00:01] <sgclark> let me look
[00:02] <teward> sgclark: thank you.
[00:05] <clivejo> isnt it part of kdepim?
[00:05] <sgclark> teward: project page https://projects.kde.org/projects/frameworks/kpeople has contacts 
[00:05] <sgclark> it is in line to be a framework afaik
[00:07] <clivejo> yeah, its source is here - http://download.kde.org/stable/frameworks/5.14/
[00:09] <clivejo> sgclark: are you backporting frameworks 5.14.0?
[00:10] <sgclark> clivejo: mmhmm. well finished but needs testers
[00:10] <clivejo> my system is wily Im affraid
[00:11] <sgclark> VM can be used :)
[00:12] <sgclark> I am trying to recruit more testers... we are in dire need.
[00:12] <clivejo> LOL I need my CPU for trying to compile and build calligra!
[00:13] <clivejo> but saying that Im not getting anywhere with it!
[00:13] <sgclark> oh lol, then no a vm will not work for you
[00:14] <clivejo> sgclark: any idea why it compiles on my own machine but refuses to work in pbuilder or LP?
[00:15] <sgclark> missing dep? dunno, would need to take a look really.
[00:15] <clivejo> please do have a look, its driving me nuts
[00:15] <clivejo> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/219145287/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.kreport_2.96.1%2Bgit20150928-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[00:16] <teward> sgclark: clivejo: someone on the quality team is linking LP to upstream project pages - the question is where do we link it to
[00:16] <teward> (by 'it' i mean libkpeople)
[00:16] <teward> It's under Kubuntu Members ownership, hence the q
[00:17] <sgclark> teward: my link was the current project page until we move to phabricator, so link to it for now please. Anyway someone from this team can contact me? I would like to keep in touch for when we do move to phabricator. (we being upstream)
[00:18] <teward> sgclark: would you rather me just tell the ubuntu-quality mailing list (ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com) to stop going through KDE and linking Launchpad packages with upstream projects?
[00:18] <teward> and say that that request came from Upstream?
[00:19] <sgclark> I really don't mind if they link.. I think I need context though lol.
[00:20] <teward> sgclark: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-quality/2015-September/006232.html
[00:20] <teward> first message
[00:20] <teward> i later follow up saying i'll poke here
[00:23] <clivejo> oh thats a nice wee diagram - http://api.kde.org/frameworks-api/frameworks5-apidocs/kpeople/html/kpeople-dependencies.html
[00:39] <sgclark> teward: let them know I am taking care of it. https://launchpad.net/libkpeople 
[03:21] <ahoneybun> sgclark: 'plasmashell restart' fixed the issue for now
[03:47] <sgclark> cool
[08:52] <soee> good morning
[08:53] <sick_rimmit> Morning soee
[08:54] <sick_rimmit> I'm just setting up a VM with Kubuntu 15.04 64Bit to do some Testing for sgclark ;-)
[08:54] <soee> yup, was thinking about the same :)
[09:23] <Riddell> thanks sick_rimmit, soee_
[09:32]  * sick_rimmit waves at Riddell
[09:36] <soee_> meh, when installing vivid in VB copying files goes to 21% than vb canceles installation
[10:12] <zokiDimovski> Hi everyone. I have upgraded my machine from 15.04 to 15.10 and I'm experiencing some problems.
[10:12] <zokiDimovski> The first and most annoying is “Configuration file "//.config/kwalletd5rc" not writable. Please contact your system administrator.”
[10:13] <zokiDimovski> This is happening every time I start the desktop.
[10:13] <soee_> zokiDimovski: what permissions have this file and does ot exist ?
[10:13] <soee_> i'v seen some problmes with this file i think
[10:14] <zokiDimovski> The file does not exist. I double check my permission in the home folder. All is good.
[10:15] <Riddell> / sounds like it's not finding the home directory and wrinting it to / instead
[10:16] <zokiDimovski> Is there a way that I can test that?
[10:19] <zokiDimovski> another one...
[10:20] <zokiDimovski> Missing Icons - When launching applications with root permissions (sudo app_name), there are no icons in the application. Tested on dolphin, kate, konsole and systemsettings. Tried to change different icons sets, it's the same result, there are no icons.
[10:45] <sitter> mck182: that wallet thing sounds a bit meh
[10:45] <sick_rimmit> Hangon..
[10:46] <sick_rimmit> I wonder, does the Wallet problem have a relationship with the KWallet upgrade tool.
[10:46] <sick_rimmit> When I installed 15.04 it asked would I like to upgrade Kwallet..
[10:46] <sitter> latest information I saw in the bug report was that the pam causes it
[10:46] <sick_rimmit> I am just wondering perhaps that tool needs to run to create the config file your looking for
[10:46] <sick_rimmit> just a though
[10:47] <howlymowly> hi there ...  short question:  I installed kubuntu 15.10 everything working OK, just when I install AMD fglrx driver my system hangs at startup ... (i think at the moment when the login manager gets aktivated)  is this a known bug? i have a radeon 6850
[10:51] <clivejo> has there been updates to PIM?
[10:53] <clivejo> its very unstable for me right now
[10:53] <sitter> Riddell: how did you get the ubiquity screenshot?
[11:01] <sitter> http://imgur.com/a/718aY
[11:09] <vip> oh, it is not only me having empty spaces in tray ;-)
[11:09] <vip> sitter: maybe vbox?
[11:10] <soee_> vip: one empty space yu mean ?
[11:12] <vip> oh, sometimes I even got two 
[11:12] <vip> (-:
[11:25] <soee_> hmm do i do this wrong: sometimes i need to edit file with sudo using nano nd search some content in it, modify and save. This creates file ~/.nano/search_history that is owned by root
[11:26] <soee_> than if i want to use nano with my user, it can't access this and shows message
[11:26] <soee_> Error reading /home/soee/.nano/search_history: Permission denied
[11:26] <soee_> Press Enter to continue
[11:27] <TJ-> soee_: 'sudo' maintains the current user env settings, including $HOME, so that would be expected to happen
[11:27] <sitter> use vim
[11:28] <soee_> i'm not sure why but i can't get used to vim
[11:28] <TJ-> soee_: sudo -H|--set-home may be what you want
[11:28] <bshah> well never ever use sudo vim/nano foobar
[11:28] <soee_> TJ-: what does it do ?
[11:28] <bshah> but do sudoedit
[11:28] <TJ-> soee_: "man sudo"
[11:29] <bshah> sudoedit is more safe
[11:29] <soee_> oh inteestign
[11:30] <TJ-> I saw a bug recently where sudedit is ignoring the EDITOR env-var, or its not being passed on
[11:30] <sitter> sudo -i is your friend
[11:35] <Neiniel-32> Hi, I am wild tester that responded to the tester call, now I am checking all the bugs I suffered in  15.04 in the 15.10 beta2  (virtualized) or if I find new ones. Will report soon ¬¬ :D 
[11:37] <soee_> Neiniel-32: hiho
[11:38] <soee_> Neiniel-32: Scarlett wants to test first frameworks backports, can you do this ?
[11:40] <Neiniel-32> If I could do it in the virtualized install, just give me instructions I will try to do my best
[11:41] <soee_> Neiniel-32: install Vivid in VirtualBox for example, than add the testing ppa, upgrade system and check if upgrade wnet fine and system is stable etc.
[11:42] <soee_> Neiniel-32: to add frameworsk stagin ppa type: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks
[11:42] <soee_> Neiniel-32: than: sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:42] <Neiniel-32> ok as soon I end to check wich bugs survived the new version, and get out of job I will do that, now I will download the vivid iso and let the pc installing
[11:43] <soee_> Neiniel-32: cool, thank you
[11:43] <Riddell> sitter: virtualbox wasn't working for me so it was a live system, I can double check if you like
[11:44] <Neiniel-32> the mayority of bugs I keep on finding are kde related and not kubuntu, (like the wrong behaviour in the panel with the option windows could cover activated)
[11:44] <soee_> Riddell: today Plasma 5.4.2 tars ?
[11:45] <Riddell> soee_: yes indeed, lots of new icons to come
[11:45] <soee_> :D
[11:45] <Riddell> of course no guarantee that packages will be ready to test today but let's try
[11:46] <soee_> Neiniel-32: such bugs should be reported on bugs.kde.org
[11:46] <sitter> Riddell: would be good
[11:46] <Neiniel-32> yes I now, just not enought time yet, but I will do it
[11:46] <Neiniel-32> *know
[11:55] <sitter> Riddell: also can't break it on laptop
[12:05] <Riddell> sitter: I see it, the image yesterday still had ubiquity	2.21.31, todays has .32
[12:06] <Riddell> which is strange since .32 had transitioned the day before but I guess not quite quick enough
[12:06] <Riddell> sorry for the noise sitter
[12:07] <sitter> -.-
[12:07] <sitter> heart attack for nothing
[12:11] <alvin> I've just installed Kubuntu 15.10 beta2. It still insists on using th de_BE locale for Belgium. There are only 77 German speaking people in this country. Why is this the default?
[12:11] <alvin> Are they perhaps all Kubuntu users?
[12:11] <TJ-> alvin: that sounds like a debian-installer/ubiquity issue 
[12:11] <Riddell> the secret germanic belgium kde conspiracy
[12:12] <Riddell> locale issues like that will be tricky to diagnose, it's all in some low level database we get from debian
[12:14] <alvin> I do install Debian a lot, and I never get that specific locale, but maybe there's some extra configuration here. I thought it would be difficult to find that. It has been there for several releases. Since you can no longer specifically say "I want my time to look like..." it has become more of an issue. You can no longer say: monetary unit is EUR, but you have to choose a locale and hope it's what you want. Instead of thursday, I now see 
[12:14] <alvin> 'Donnerstag'
[12:19] <sitter> alvin: what language do you install with? english?
[12:19] <yofel> might be a kde issues too. Here my env says "LANG=de_DE.UTF-8", which certainly matches my regional settings, but not my language (en_US.UTF-8)
[12:20] <alvin> sitter: Yes. I want English as languate, but EUR as monetary unit, and a 24-hour clock. No AM and PM.
[12:20] <sitter> yofel: LANGUAGE is different from LANG and we can set them independently
[12:20] <sitter> alvin: that's not what I asked
[12:20] <yofel> LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[12:20] <yofel> LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
[12:20] <sitter> when you are at the installer
[12:20] <sitter> what language do you install with
[12:21] <alvin> Trouble is that KDE knows locales that don't really exist. I can choose 'Belgium - English' which resulsts in en_BE.UTF-8, but on the command line, that results in 'setting locale failed'
[12:21] <alvin> sitter: I do install in English
[12:23] <sitter> the setting locale thing is a bug
[12:29] <alvin> sitter: What is a bug? The existence of the en_BE.UTF-8 locale? I can choose that in KDE, but when adding it to (/var/lib/locales/supported.d/local), dpkg-reconfigure says there is no such locale definition.
[12:32] <sitter> that'd be the bug :P
[12:32] <sitter> Riddell: didn't you have someone work on the locale api?
[12:33] <alvin> :-( It's hard to set it right, and the only way to do so more or less is the command line.
[12:34] <Riddell> sitter: only to install language packs using packagekit, and he's not finished it yet
[12:34] <sitter> ok
[12:34] <sitter> that would actually fix the locale not available problem
[12:38] <sitter> Riddell: we need newer frameworks in wily
[12:39] <sitter> the icon loader in that release is fucked
[12:39] <sitter> see kickoff after installation using oxygen
[12:40] <Riddell> um, we have the latest 5.14 release in wily
[12:40] <sitter> so that's broken then
[12:40] <sitter> alvin: de_BE is a bug in ubiquity
[12:41] <alvin> sitter: Thanks. Is there a bug report already?
[12:41] <sitter> no clue
[12:44] <alvin> I'll report it as soon as I do another install
[12:45] <sgclark> morning
[12:46] <sitter> can't reproduce the problem with en_BE
[12:47] <lordievader> Hey sgclark. I was just testing the kf staging ppa.
[12:49] <lordievader> sgclark: Installs fine, by the way.
[12:52] <lordievader> And reboots fine too.
[13:00] <alvin> For reporting a bug against plasmashell, what package do I choose?
[13:02] <TJ-> alvin: i seem to recall something like plasma-workspace - do "dpkg -S 'bin/plasmashell' "
[13:02] <alvin> I don't know if it's a known bug. (Installed beta2) Multi-monitor works, but plasmashell is only started on the left monitor. lordievader told me to kquitapp plasmashell and kstart plasmashell. That brings plasmashell on the second monitor alive, but it goes wrong again next time.
[13:02] <sitter> you don't because you report it on bugs.kde.org
[13:02] <sgclark> Riddell: someone working on the new plasma?
[13:03] <alvin> sitter: Fair enough. Only, I don't know yet if it's Kubuntu-specific or not.
[13:04] <sgclark> thank you everyone that answered my call for testers :)
[13:04] <sitter> alvin: neither do we :P
[13:05] <alvin> I take it there is no such thing as release blockers then?
[13:05] <alvin> I'll go look at the right bug tracker then.
[13:09] <Riddell> sgclark: not yet
[13:09] <sgclark> i'll take it
[13:09]  * Riddell high fives sgclark
[13:10] <soee_> i think we shoudl have ~ 10 testers that will test stuff eahc time we have to release something
[13:10] <soee_> and release after all of them test it
[13:10] <sitter> Riddell: btw http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_stable_kaccounts-integration/
[13:10] <sgclark> yeah we need more than we have for certain. looks like my call worked a little
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:15] <sgclark> hiyas
[13:19] <soee_> hiho
[13:20] <Riddell> sitter: will investigate..
[13:21] <BluesKaj> hi sgclark, soee_
[13:21] <sitter> Riddell: you merged unstable into stable as I recall
 mck182: that wallet thing sounds a bit meh [12:45:16] --> what wallet thing?
[13:47] <Furor-ESP> @soee_ I did that, some packages got updated, a pop up of distro upgrade appear and them dissapear, I tried to reboot, but failed and have to force a restart, after I loging in again, most of apps dissapared from start menu
[13:48] <soee_> popup of distro upgrade ?
[13:51] <Furor-ESP> the notifcation on the system tray that advise you that a distro upgrade is available
[13:51] <Furor-ESP> sorry for my bad explanation
[13:52] <Furor-ESP> I didnt have time to read it completely as it happened fast, what I could asure you its that most of apps are inacesible from start menu and krunner
[13:53] <soee_> but you can search with krunner etc ?
[13:53] <Furor-ESP> https://my.owndrive.com/index.php/s/bgkWLpbYshGXs77
[13:54] <Furor-ESP> no, krunner didn't find any app
[13:56] <Furor-ESP> correction: the apps belonging to system panel appear, others not
[13:56] <Furor-ESP> very strange
[13:56] <soee_> Furor-ESP: oen krunner (ALT+F2)
[13:56] <soee_> *open
[13:56] <Furor-ESP> (like screen lock, samba ..)
[13:56] <soee_> and click on that icon before search field
[13:56] <soee_> see if all those items are checked there
[13:56] <Furor-ESP> done
[13:57] <Furor-ESP> all checked
[13:57] <soee_> type in console: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:57] <soee_> what is the output
[13:58] <Furor-ESP> I am trying to manage how to open the terminal after this happened
[13:58] <Furor-ESP> I could use it with kdesudo also I suppose
[13:59] <soee_> try to switch to different tty
[13:59] <sgclark> type in konsole into runner?
[13:59] <Furor-ESP> all normal apps are missed
[13:59] <Furor-ESP> from krunner and start menu
[13:59] <soee_> well are you sure it didn;t remove them while upgrding ?
[14:00] <sgclark> ctl-alt-f2
[14:00] <sgclark> yeah sounds like kubuntu-desktop got uninstalled
[14:00] <Furor-ESP> I know, but I have to change keys or I will do it on the host operating system
[14:01] <soee_> ah right it is VB :)
[14:01] <soee_> Furor-ESP: right click on the desktop
[14:01] <soee_> and pick: Run Command from menu
[14:02] <Furor-ESP> yes, that way I open krunner
[14:05] <soee_> and can you open Konsole ?
[14:05] <Furor-ESP> but krunner its almost useless right now, I am trying to configure the virtual box to could do a control+alt+f1, give me some minutes
[14:05] <Furor-ESP> no
[14:05] <soee_> Furor-ESP: what if you switch to alternative launcher ?
[14:05] <soee_> it is also empty - does not list apps ?
[14:06] <Furor-ESP> I will check
[14:06] <Furor-ESP> but when the normal one and krunner doesnt list apps...
[14:07] <Furor-ESP> nope
[14:08] <soee_> well i doubt it will remove all apps, there must be something different
[14:09] <Furor-ESP> wtf, now let me execute konsole (as command but app with icon not listed)
[14:10] <Furor-ESP> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop doesn't need to install anything
[14:10] <sgclark> breeze maybe??
[14:11] <Furor-ESP> I put another screenshot in the link I shared before
[14:13] <soee_> Furor-ESP: and you have installed those frameworks from staging ppa ?
[14:13] <Furor-ESP> yes
[14:13] <Furor-ESP> all this happened after I restart after that
[14:15] <sgclark> apt-get upgrade exits cleanly?
[14:20] <sgclark> Furor-ESP: can you point me to the vivid cd you used, I need to try and reproduce.
[14:28] <Furor-ESP> I downloaded a ISO from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/15.04/release/kubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:29] <sgclark> thank you
[14:29] <Furor-ESP> I did all normal updates
[14:29] <Furor-ESP> restart
[14:29] <Furor-ESP> added the staging
[14:29] <Furor-ESP> updates
[14:30] <Furor-ESP> problem trying to restart, forced restart, login and them the problem to locate the apps
[14:30] <Furor-ESP> (missed in menu, and missed in krunner, unless I typed full command as you could see in screenshot)
[14:31] <Furor-ESP> I have to leave for today, to keep on working. Thanks for your patience, hope that test could be usefull
[14:31] <Furor-ESP> Will try to back tomorrow
[14:45] <sgclark> Riddell: first time using new staging-upload script. What does it mean to remember to unpause? was I suppose to pause something? :(
[14:46] <Riddell> pause kci http://kci.pangea.pub/view/mgmt/job/mgmt_pause_integration/
[14:47] <sgclark> meh too late now. sorry did not know
[14:47] <Riddell> I should probably force that in the script
[14:48] <Riddell> then again it's no bad thing to test the merges
[17:16] <marco-parillo> I want to thank the Kubuntu Devs. On identical 1GB VM, each with Plasma 5.4.1, identical FF and Chrome tabs, a just-released distro just spun helplessly, while Wily Beta was also able to run Muon-updates.
[18:40] <clivejo> sgclark: did you get a chance to look over kreport ?
[18:41] <sgclark> clivejo: eek, no I totally got distracted by that launchpad request thing, can I have another link?
[18:41] <clivejo> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/219145287/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.kreport_2.96.1%2Bgit20150928-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[18:44] <sgclark> well it cannot find the header file, of which I conclude it did not get generated?
[18:44] <clivejo> why does it compile locally?
[18:44] <clivejo> but not on LP?
[18:46] <clivejo> dont understand why its failing
[18:46] <sgclark> well it looks like it uses ECM to generate those headers, perhaps a different version of ECM that LP is using? 
[18:47] <sgclark> wild guess here, I have no idea what your local setup is, nor what dependencies LP is using
[18:48] <clivejo> Version: 5.14.0-0ubuntu2 installed locally
[18:51] <clivejo> Ill enable proposed, see it that helps
[21:30] <clivejo> yippeee
[21:34] <soee> do we have Plasma 5.4.2 started to build ?
[21:34] <clivejo> I dont know
[21:35] <sgclark> yes it is in staging
[21:36] <soee> i see no status page for it http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/
[21:36] <sgclark> cuz I have not made one. sorry distracted
[21:37] <soee> ah ok :)
[21:41] <clivejo> sgclark: do you have a weegie login?
[21:43] <sgclark> well it let me loging but no I cannot su to kubuntu
[21:44] <sgclark> so I cannot creat a status page sorry
[21:45] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm onto it
[21:45] <soee> sgclark: but are there some builds that faild or 5.4.2 is ready ?
[21:46] <Riddell> sgclark: you're in sudo group, just ping or another sudoer to reset your password
[21:47] <sgclark> soee: all green but that does not necessarily mean they are done.
[21:48] <Riddell> sgclark: not bad http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.4.2_wily.html :)
[21:48] <sgclark> sorry I got distracted on to another task.
[21:48] <sgclark> thanks Riddell
[21:49] <soee> wow so 1 package only failed ?
[21:49] <sgclark> mmm xinput - isnt that the one not available in debian based distros?
[21:49] <sgclark> Riddell: ^
[21:50] <sgclark> not failed but cmake wants a package that I do not believe we can provide.
[21:54] <sgclark> yep xcb-xinput no exist
[21:58] <sgclark> soee: feel free to test, debian based does not ship with xcb-input so that orange will remain so. 
[21:58] <sgclark> !testers
[21:59] <sgclark> please test staging-plasma
[22:04] <soee> sgclark: and oxygen-fonts ?
[22:07] <sgclark> oh hmm
[22:08] <sgclark> soee: nice catch, I am going blind.
[22:13] <soee> sgclark: and why it is 5.4.1 not 5.4.2 ?
[22:13] <soee> *oxygen-fonts
[22:13] <clivejo> probably in manual
[22:14] <sgclark> that is why it was in manual, all fixed now uploading...
[22:14] <clivejo> nothing to actually compile?
[22:15] <soee> wowo i think this was the fastest plasma build ever
[22:16] <clivejo> sgclark: is an expert :)
[22:16] <soee> true :)
[22:16] <soee> clivejo: beeing an expert  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg :D
[22:16]  * clivejo wonders if sgclark's next job is to backport them
[22:17] <sgclark> yes it is, but working on application backport atm
[22:26] <soee> sgclark: can you tell me what -ppa1 or -ppa2 sufix means in package name ?
[22:26] <Quintasan> soee: first upload to ppa, second upload to ppa and so on
[22:26] <soee> Quintasan: thanks
[22:27] <soee> so package gets it before or after build?
[22:27] <soee> uploader gives that name or LP ?
[22:27] <Quintasan> Uploader
[22:27] <sgclark> yeah it rejected my build, so I made another, but now looking I think possibly Riddell was working on it without saying anything.. 
[22:28] <Quintasan> soee: We just have to somehow differ uploads which only have changes in the packaging. We can't exactly bump the software version number itself.
[22:28] <Riddell> sgclark: I uploaded oxygen-fonts but then got distracted
[22:29] <Riddell> and failed to say so
[22:29] <sgclark> I uploaded another not knowing that sory, oh well it is done
[22:29] <clivejo> naughty Riddell
[22:29] <sgclark> Riddell: did you see my statement about xcb-input? seems debian refuses to enable it
[22:30] <Riddell> sgclark: no, what's that about?
[22:30] <sgclark> I recall this coming up on my CI
[22:31] <sgclark> upstream debian refuses to enable xcb-input. something about buggy and ABI.
[22:31] <Riddell> sgclark: for what?
[22:31] <sgclark> plasma-desktop
[22:32] <sgclark> the orange one lol
[22:32] <Riddell> then let's just add it to cmake-override.json
[22:32] <sgclark> mmm this sounds new
[22:33] <sgclark> is this in packaging or what?
[22:34] <sgclark> Riddell: I don't know where that is sorry
[22:35] <Riddell> it's in kubuntu-automation
[22:35] <Riddell> cmake-ignore.json
[22:36] <Riddell> but I'm curious about debian's objection
[22:37] <sgclark> yeah walcomtablet will never run for us without it
[22:37] <sgclark> perma red on my ci :(
[22:37] <Riddell> something to do with ./kcms/input/CMakeLists.txt
[22:38] <Riddell> I think I'd add it to the packagae, trusting upstream more than some fellow packagers
[22:38] <sgclark> huh?
[22:38] <sgclark> you lost me
[22:39] <Riddell> we want wacom tablet support
[22:39] <Riddell> and if upstream says we want it then we should have it
[22:39] <Riddell> so I'd add it to the packaging
[22:43] <Riddell> hmm but I can't work out what build-dep to add
[22:43] <soee_> sgclark, Riddell: smoth download and upgrade, will reboot now
[22:43] <sgclark> Riddell: the xcb parent would need to be rebuilt with the xinput flag enabled then grab the bits out and put in packaging for those that want it?
[22:44] <sgclark> I may be really confused, my brain is fried
[22:44] <Riddell> ah really
[22:44] <Riddell> well let's just add it to ignores then
[22:44] <Riddell> do you want to add it to cmake-ignore.json or shall I?
[22:45] <sgclark> go ahead
[22:45] <sgclark> I have to afk for a bit
[22:45] <soee> i'm back :)
[22:46] <clivejo> any problems?
[22:47] <soee> clivejo: nope
[22:48] <soee> any idea how can i download 64bit deb from here https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/isv:ownCloud:community:nightly/owncloud-client ?
[22:48] <Riddell> perfect green http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.4.2_wily.html :)
[22:48] <clivejo> cheating :P
[22:48] <soee> Riddell: +1 
[22:49] <soee> ah her eit is https://build.opensuse.org/package/binary/isv:ownCloud:community:nightly/owncloud-client?arch=x86_64&filename=owncloud-client_2.0.2~git-1_amd64.deb&repository=xUbuntu_15.04
[22:50] <soee> woho new updates icon :)
[22:51] <soee> brb
[22:52]  * sgclark blogs for more testers
 Plasmashell is acting odd
 I can't right click on the desktop and the panels don't work
 For switching tasks or anything
 Works for me. What are you running?
 Driver?
 Last update?
 Yea wily
 Wow 132 packages to update
 It Started yesterday I  believe, I just killed xorg and I was fine till a min agao
 But now even a reboot did not fix it
 So I'm updating to see if that fixes it
[23:06] <sgclark> err that is old
[23:06] <soee> if someone will test 5.4.2, please tell me if you also have ~15 sec lag when booting system after sddm
[23:06] <soee> so the proggress bar is 100% than 15 sec lag
[23:13] <Riddell> who was that kubuntusuperbot?
[23:13] <sgclark> arrons telegram bot
[23:13] <sgclark> ahoneybuns
[23:14] <Riddell> hmm
[23:31] <soee> calligra has nice icons
[23:35] <clivejo> in Software and Updates Im getting an unhandled error occurred - org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying
[23:36] <sgclark> is this testing plasma or in general?
[23:40] <clivejo> both
[23:42] <sgclark> ok let me clarify. You installed staging plasma and this popped up or?
[23:43] <clivejo> as I was adding the staging plasma PPA it started
[23:43] <clivejo> so prior to it
[23:43] <sgclark> software and updates - is that muon?
[23:44] <clivejo> oh its not
[23:44] <clivejo> its gtk
[23:44] <clivejo> thats gnome?
[23:50] <sgclark> it is, not sure what it has to do with updates though
[23:51] <clivejo> Ive removed it
[23:51] <clivejo> use the kde one