[03:56] bye all [04:24] hello! [05:04] good morning === denbeiren_ is now known as denbeiren [06:31] Good morning [06:32] hey pitti! [06:35] hey pitti didrocks desktopers [06:36] pitti, how are you? [06:36] re seb128 [06:36] good, thanks! (presentatoin going on) [06:37] pitti, that seems a common theme this week ;-) [06:51] \o/ SNI server side implementation done [06:51] that was something to do that in python… [06:51] (for ubuntu make medium tests) [06:56] bonjour! [06:57] hey larsu, feeling better? [06:58] morning larsu [06:58] seb128: thanks, but not really :/ [06:58] hi seb128 & didrocks :) [06:58] larsu, seb128, didrocks: bonjour et moin! [06:58] hey Sweet5hark1 [06:58] moin moin Sweet5hark1 [07:02] hey Sweet5hark1! [07:12] Ran 52 tests in 1060.444s [07:13] medium tests passing \o/ [07:13] time to commit all those changes in a meaningful way now [07:13] "stuff that makes tests pass" [07:15] larsu: for git diff | wc -l : ~900, yeah, sounds like a good commit message ratio/changes :) [07:16] hehe [08:00] morning morning [08:01] morning! [08:02] hey willcooke Laney [08:02] good morning willcooke, Laney [08:02] how is the u.k today? [08:02] sunny! [08:03] that's a bug, right? [08:03] XD [08:04] ERM [08:05] check telegram [08:05] no sun here [08:06] seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/5.0.2/libreoffice-l10n_5.0.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes and http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/5.0.2/libreoffice_5.0.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes [08:07] Sweet5hark1, looking [08:07] Sweet5hark1, how is the DMB application going btw? [08:07] hi Laney & willcooke [08:07] seb128: DMB not yet. [08:08] Sweet5hark1, did you have a FFE for that update? [08:08] seb128: also, please wait for bug 1495512 to get green light from ubuntu-release I guess. [08:08] bug 1495512 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[FFE] LibreOffice 5.0.2" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1495512 [08:08] Sweet5hark1, you should mention that ffe in the changelog... [08:09] seb128: eh, true. Will bump that. [08:09] morning larsu [08:10] 30/09 18:43:50 seb128, Laney: could you tell SweetShark that he has to subscribe the release team to his FFE reports? [08:10] also bugfix -> no ffe [08:10] Sweet5hark1, no need to bump, just edit/rebuild the source [08:10] that's what the first f means [08:10] right [08:10] I assume that was not bugfix only [08:10] Sweet5hark1, is that update bugfix only? [08:11] seb128, Laney: yeah, upstream bugfixes and very minor packaging bugfix tweaks ... [08:11] Sweet5hark1, k, so no ffe needed, I can just upload what is currently on your p.c.c [08:12] seb128: yeah, thanks. [08:12] yw [08:20] wow, I can't believe we have still bugs like #1484589 [08:21] shrug [08:22] speaking of indicators bugs, the datetime one qengho mentioned yesterday seems fun [08:23] clicking on days from the previous/next month make the calendar go in a change loop and eat cpu [08:23] I filed a bug about that [08:23] few weeks ago [08:23] oh? [08:23] did you try to ping charles? [08:23] probably [08:23] or maybe that's something larsu could have a look to... [08:23] larsu, ^ interested? [08:24] but generally this aspect of having to ping (possibly many times) as well as file a bug isn't the best [08:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1480387 [08:24] Ubuntu bug 1480387 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "Clicking a date to go back or forward a month causes repeated jumps between two dates" [Undecided,New] [08:24] right, but too much going, people don't read all the bug emails [08:24] unsure how differently we could do [08:25] it means that bugs that people in CAnonical (or those with IRC) find get fixed and others don't [08:25] no particular reason they are more important bugs [08:25] that's not really true [08:25] most of the bugs I ping people about are not bugs from Canonicalers [08:25] this one is [08:25] like that can't restore from trash was user filed [08:26] right [08:26] but the criterious is not who filed it [08:26] just bugs that should be fixed for the release [08:26] you're saying that I should have pinged charles because I found the bug [08:26] I agree. People stopped reading bug mail at some point [08:26] it's ridiculous [08:26] we should have a 0-bug policy [08:26] Laney, I didn't say you should, I asked if you did [08:26] but I think people just gave up [08:26] too much noise [08:26] alright :-) [08:26] larsu, yeah, and we are as much responsible for that than others [08:27] of course [08:27] there is no magical solution [08:27] larsu, yeah agreed - too much noise [08:27] it's not really the noise imho [08:27] it's just too much to do [08:27] the constant tagging and reassigning doesn't help much :/ [08:27] and some projects have no active owner [08:27] seb128: yeah, maybe that's a big factor as well - noone feels responsible [08:28] Laney, speaking about IRC ping, I guess https://git.gnome.org/browse/gvfs/commit/?id=7373acf9b15f40f1c01bd2a325b380ba9bc17d19 is on your list? ;-) [08:28] didn't you say you were updating gvfs? [08:28] Laney, I did update, that was commited yesterday [08:29] but that's linked to the trash/monitoring bugs you reported [08:29] so I though maybe you were on it [08:29] I have the commit open in a tab so it is on some kind of list, yeah [08:29] but not one which means I haveto do it if you want to :) [08:29] I just want to make sure we land it in wily [08:29] I was not going to do another gvfs upload, but I can [08:30] for the glib ones I wasn't going to cherry-pick since we will get .1 soon enough [08:30] but for gvfs it makes sense [08:30] k [08:30] well lemme know [08:30] me or you [08:30] YOU CHOOSE! [08:30] ok, I do it [08:30] ;-) [08:30] ♥ [08:30] damn it. I can reproduce :/ [08:30] :-) [08:30] I hate this codebase since the rewrite though [08:30] larsu, the calendar? [08:30] or the sound? [08:30] calendar [08:31] cool [08:31] feel free to bounce to charles though [08:31] let me see if it's something obvious [08:31] but I think that is going to require some nagging, I don't think he's looking at desktop bugs much nowadays [08:31] danke [08:31] reproduce it on the phone :) [08:31] :-) [08:31] do they have the calendar widget there? [08:31] no [08:31] * Laney forgot [08:32] DAMN! [08:32] they do have it in unity8 desktop for a week though [08:32] so they are going to have it in vivid-overlay for pocket desktop I guess [08:32] so they probably care ;-) [08:33] * larsu thinks it's time to unconverge indicators === locutus__ is now known as LocutusOfBorg1 [08:41] xclaesse: any chance https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=800348 or https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1242157 ring any bells? [08:41] Debian bug 800348 in empathy "empathy crash at startup (segmentation violation)" [Serious,Open] [08:41] bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1242157 in empathy "empathy segfaults with GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_task_propagate_boolean: assertion 'task->result_set == TRUE' failed" [Unspecified,New] [08:41] same bug [08:55] tedg: can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/dbus-test-runner/fix-test-race/+merge/270488 today please maybe? [09:47] didrocks: ...you want a cool task? :) [09:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webaccounts-browser-extension/+bug/1498682 [09:48] Ubuntu bug 1498682 in webapps-greasemonkey (Ubuntu) "Remove xul-ext-unity, -webaccounts, -websites-integration from archive" [Undecided,New] [09:48] * didrocks smells a trap [09:48] zap zap zap [09:48] oh that [09:48] of course! [09:48] :D [09:48] told you it was cool [09:48] finishing up current PR review [09:49] and then, on that [09:49] you are the best [09:49] |m| [09:59] Laney: hum, no mention of libufe-xidgetter0 coming from unity-firefox-extension [09:59] I guess it needs as well (not used afterwards…) [09:59] it would be source and all binaries [09:59] webaccounts-browser-extension still ships webaccounts-chromium-extension [10:00] the bug only mention firefox things? [10:00] (I know chromium doesn't have the same issue yet, but I'm not sure if the API isn't broken already) [10:00] Laney: I would do a full cleanswap, thoughts? [10:03] didrocks: I forgot about the chromium version tbh [10:03] hum, no dbarth [10:03] Laney: let me copy/paste that on the bug report [10:05] he's on other channels [10:06] pinged and bug referenced, let's see [10:06] thx [10:18] didrocks: this only affects browser-extension and not the other two, yes? [10:19] Laney: yeah, but let's see once we get the answer, so that I handle the whole batch :) [10:20] good luck [10:28] Laney: and flushed \o/ [10:29] awesome [10:30] want to care for nvidia-graphics-drivers-346 and nvidia-graphics-drivers-346-updates too? :) [10:30] tseliot said they are all taken over by a new version [10:30] * Laney is purging https://udd.debian.org/~laney/less.txt [10:32] Laney: is there any bug ref for it? [10:32] bug:ubuntu-devel-irc-on-2015-10-01-please-trust-me [10:32] ;) [10:33] ok, will be your fault then! [10:33] 01/10 10:57:45 Laney: ok, I can file that request [10:33] you can wait if you want :) [10:33] :) [10:33] well, let's do on IRC [10:34] cleaned [10:34] today is a good day [10:35] spring cleaning :) [10:35] hehe [10:35] NO [10:35] panda has crashed again [10:35] it's now an average day [10:35] :p [10:36] I want to replace it [10:36] what's a similar low power and cheap server? [10:36] pi? [10:37] pi is good [10:37] pi 2 is, I think, about 2 x the "power" [10:37] actually it would be good to have a little more go [10:37] it runs a Debian/Ubuntu mirror which is pretty shit on the panda [10:37] pi 2 has 4 cores at about 1 GHz vs 2 @ 1.2 for Panda [10:38] BBB? [10:39] hum, the e14 website is awful, but I think BBB is single core at 1 Ghz [10:39] seems so [10:39] pi is ubiquitous - safe bet [10:40] new pi is better, you can use Ubuntu on it [10:41] that's proper armhf isn't it? [10:41] yeah [10:41] cool [10:41] arm64 one would be fun too.. [10:42] you can get arm64 servers in the CLOUD!!!!!11one [10:42] not so useful for a local package mirror or to graph my currentcost :P [10:42] ha [10:42] no [10:44] I found that when my Pi2 was in a cheapo case I got off ebay and very busy it would hang, taking it out the case fixed that - so if you are going to be working it hard you might want to bear that in mind [10:46] oh yeah, the panda is just in its box which is open :) [10:47] * Laney buys a naked pi [10:47] I bought from the Pi Hut - they seem good [10:48] The "starter kit" for 50 quid is decent [10:50] got all of that stuff minus the case [10:51] the psu is supposed to be better quality than a generic [10:51] but I dunno [10:51] I have one, and it works well, but I expect they are much of a muchness [10:51] fair cop, we'll see I guess [10:51] larsu, so yeah, made lots of changes but couldn't get it to work.... [10:51] sure I can pick one up in maplin or somewhere [10:52] larsu, then I realised I have a .themes dir in my home dir [10:52] uh oh :/ [10:52] Laney, yeah, certainly [10:52] willcooke: now it does work thoug? [10:52] larsu, Its taken me 15 mins to work that out :D [10:52] larsu, yeah gettting there now [10:52] cool :) [10:53] meanwhlie, I found the root cause of that datetime bug (which is in gtk) [10:53] but we only see it because datetime is a bit chatty [10:53] panel: hey datetime, set the date to 8/30/2015 please [10:54] datetime: ok [10:54] datetime: hey panel, set the date to 8/30/2015 please [10:54] just to make sure and all [10:55] larsu, I though it could be in GTK, datetime didn't change much this cycle [10:55] thanks for debugging it! [10:55] no worries [10:55] what is panel? [10:56] unity-panel-service [10:56] oh right [11:33] bah, GtkCalendar is a mess :/ [11:33] * larsu goes to eat something to think about this [11:34] Good morning. [11:34] morning qengho === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [11:38] larsu: this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1501476 ? [11:38] Ubuntu bug 1501476 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "datetime indicator spins out of control when clicking neighbor-month day" [Undecided,New] === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:17] mvo: hi, would you happen to have an estimate when bug 1267059 would be fixed in trusty? [12:17] bug 1267059 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) ""Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies" does not work " [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1267059 [12:18] pesari: sure [12:18] pesari: later [12:22] haha === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [12:30] good "morning" [12:31] ehehe :) [12:33] (re) [12:41] qengho: yes [12:44] hey andyrock Trevinho [12:44] Sweet5hark, hey, while you were offline doko rejected the libreoffice upload saying you discarded the changes from the 0ubuntu2 upload he did in the archive [12:47] seb128: urgh, ok. updating. great to see major changes being done sidetracking the CVS of the package ... [12:48] woah [12:49] Sweet5hark, talk to doko if you don't like the changes [12:49] nothing force us to take those [12:49] we can resolve the issue differently [12:49] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/log/wily/2015-10-01/12:45:36.log [12:50] urg [12:50] Laney, what did you do?! [12:50] tricked didrocks in crashing britney! [12:51] \o/ [12:51] weird that KeyError in the python script [12:51] * didrocks wonders where it's getting it from, it's $killed$ [12:51] seb128: no the changes see to be ok in principle (at least from changelog) -- I wouldnt have done some of that this late in the cycle. Just slightly annoyed not to have them in git ... [12:57] Sweet5hark, you should said that to doko on #ubuntu-devel [12:59] didrocks: [12:59] laney@wily> rmadison -S -swily,wily-proposed webaccounts-browser-extension ~ webaccounts-chromium-extension | 0.5-0ubuntu2 | wily/universe | arm64 [13:02] weird, you saw as I did the output (removing binaries and source [13:02] * didrocks opened the bug again [13:03] it doesn't list arm64 for that pkg [13:03] oh [13:03] yeah [13:03] don't know why that is though [13:03] weird? [13:03] I can remove it manually if needed [13:03] probably... [13:03] but weird that this was wasn't picked [13:03] wait [13:03] it has an old version [13:03] yeah [13:04] webaccounts-chromium-extension 0.5-0ubuntu4 in wily armhf [13:04] was the last one [13:04] pb why it wasn't picked [13:04] I guess newer version never built [13:04] (checking) [13:04] hum https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webaccounts-browser-extension/0.5-0ubuntu4 [13:04] * didrocks puzzled [13:05] anyway, let's kill explicitely the old version [13:05] thought britney would have noticed that [13:05] yeah… [13:05] I'm remove 0.5-0ubuntu2 in wily [13:05] removing* [13:06] Removing packages from wily: [13:06] webaccounts-chromium-extension 0.5-0ubuntu2 in wily arm64 [13:06] done [13:06] Laney: keep me posted about britney's state [13:06] thanks! [13:06] yw [13:06] Good riddance. [13:06] going to lunch [13:07] ;) [13:07] keen an eye on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html [13:07] enjoy Laney [13:07] yep [13:07] if you remember [13:07] tab opened [13:42] Hi, I think this is the right place to ask, please direct me otherwise ... I used the standard Qt Quick Controls 1.1 template in QtCreator which created this QML http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12631723/ to start off with. However I have noticed that the menubar doesn't function (no LIM/Global Menu or inline one). If you change the QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME to something other than appmenu-qt5 then you get a non LIM/Global menu which is slightly [13:42] glitchy (is sometimes white). [13:42] When investigating I have also found bug 1302084 and bug 1323853 which are both a 1 year+ old, critical and assigned, however this is still present in Vivid. Is there any progress on this bug? Or anything I can do to help fix it? As I feel it could be potentially important when app want to use a menubar in the convergent world. [13:42] bug 1302084 in appmenu-qt5 (Ubuntu) "Menu in the global title bar is missing after a window child in Qt5 applications" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302084 [13:42] bug 1323853 in appmenu-qt5 (Ubuntu) "No menubar for QtQuick.Controls based applications" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1323853 [13:56] Laney: refreshed successfully now [13:57] sorry for the mr spam [13:57] * larsu couldn't figure out the correct gtk branch again [13:58] larsu, no worry ;-) [13:59] seb128: thanks :) I'm not on 100% because of this sickness anyway [14:04] larsu, you changed the gtk dialogs to not have linked buttons on unity right? what does it check for? [14:06] seb128: don't remember what I settled on - I think it's simply a css rule that doesn't style linked buttons in dialogs as linked [14:06] but could be app-specific patches as well [14:06] which would check for !GNOME in XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP [14:06] larsu, looking at bug #1480387 and looking at scrollback [14:06] bug 1480387 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Clicking a date to go back or forward a month causes repeated jumps between two dates" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1480387 [14:07] is this something you and Laney have figured out already? [14:07] larsu, k, no biggy, I was wondering by the apport dialogs look different under sudo (e.g "ubuntu-bug unity" vs "sudo ubuntu-bug unity") [14:07] ah, moved to gtk+ 3.0... a GtkCalendar issue? [14:08] Trevinho, andyrock https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/compiz/compiz.matrix-additions/+merge/273072 present for you :) Just added 2 matrix functions (I use them in my future MPs) [14:09] hikiko: approved [14:09] thanks andyrock ! [14:09] I'll give a look to your "put" branch today [14:11] charles: yes [14:11] charles: it reports a new day twice when clicking on days of the next or previous month [14:11] hikiko: you also need to update the ABI I think === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:12] andyrock: ^ [14:12] charles: which sends two activate message to indicator-datetime [14:12] charles: which then sends two state changes [14:12] Trevinho, sure, how do I update the ABI? [14:12] (sorry I ve never updated it) [14:12] charles: and then the two bounce back and forth between two dates [14:13] hikiko: change the #define COMPIZ_OPENGL_ABI 7 value to 8 I guess [14:13] hikiko: as for the COMPIZ_CORE ABI don't worry as i'll merge this only when wily is ready (otherwise we'd need a FF) [14:14] and I've another branch that does it [14:15] larsu, ok. sounds good [14:15] larsu, at least from my pov ;) [14:16] cool :) [14:16] ok, time to sign off, (started early), see you guys! [14:17] charles: actually it would be even more robust if we only called activate on an actual user interaction [14:17] charles: but there's no way to find that out with GtkCalendar [14:18] hikiko: added a couple of comments [14:39] thanks Trevinho, I am leaving I'll look at them when I be back! bb [15:32] Hello, i'm from Big Bug Bonanza Ubuntu 16.04 LTS article, do i need test bugs on 15.10 (Beta2) or wait release and then start to triage bugs from Launchpad? Thanks for answer. [15:33] Pharmasolin, hi - thank you for dropping by! You can use the beta [15:34] Pharmasolin, if you have a lot of problems with it, then 15.04 would be the next best choice [15:36] i'm currently on 15.04 [15:36] but i have PPA connected i will install on virtualbox 15.10 [15:37] Pharmasolin, good plan [16:43] willcooke: is there already list of bugs that needed to be tested on 15.10? [16:43] "We will create a list of bugs which need to be checked and then ask people to spend a few minutes trying to reproduce a chosen bug on 15.10." [16:43] >http://www.whizzy.org/2015/09/big-bug-bonanza-16-04-lts/ [16:50] Pharmasolin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BigDesktopBugScrub [16:50] Pharmasolin, Step # 3 [16:50] Yes sorry, i'm checking already. [16:51] :) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:07] * Laney waves [17:08] bye Laney! [17:18] Laney, have a nice evening [17:22] Futsal time, back later. [17:24] Trevinho, have fun! [18:00] I call this a day [18:00] have a good night guys [18:07] night [18:28] Sweet5hark, some issues with your lo upload ... did you generate the control file in a wily chroot? [18:28] looking at the diff ... [18:28] doko: yes. [18:28] - g++-5 [hppa ia64 s390 sparc kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386], [18:28] - gcc-5 [hppa ia64 s390 sparc kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386], [18:28] + g++- [hppa ia64 s390 sparc kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386], [18:28] + gcc- [hppa ia64 s390 sparc kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386], [18:29] - libboost-program-options-dev (>= 1.58), [18:29] - libboost-system-dev (>= 1.58), [18:29] the first is odd, but doesn't do any harm. [18:29] doko: will have a look [18:29] looks like the boost stuff then uses the internal copy [18:29] this doesn't sound right [18:31] Sweet5hark, so please figure out the boost issue at least [18:32] doko: sure, already checking ... [18:34] doko: "checking which boost to use... external" -- so at least its not using internal boost. still looking why it changed at all ... [18:44] doko: seems boost-program-options is only needed for orcus? did you forget to regen control after using system orcus? [18:44] let me look [19:10] glad I came back online [19:10] mail server ran out of disk :( [19:11] Laney: /o\ [19:11] need to stop running this myself [19:15] Laney: or run on a bigger disk [19:25] Laney: recommending posteo.de even if they cost a euro per month. [19:33]