[08:32] eliasps, [08:32] eliasps, what about javascript? [08:34] darkxst it is resolved now, top icons extension doesn't scare icons correctly in gnome-shell 3.18 with a custom theme. I wanted to tweak the code so it would, I couldn't figure out how, so I played with numbers to fix it and I did. :) [08:34] scale* not scare [08:35] does your theme change the size of the top bar? that would cause issues [08:35] Yes, it does. [08:36] thats not really supported in gnome-shell [08:36] I just changed this let iconSize = Panel.PANEL_ICON_SIZE * scaleFactor to this let iconSize = Panel.PANEL_ICON_SIZE * scaleFactor*4/3 [08:37] now they are displayed fine. [08:37] I meant gnome-shell won't pick up on size changes automatically [08:39] When I change the panel's size, every icon on it (from the menus, the other extensions, the one of the focused window) is scaled correctly, except that one of the top-icons extension. Anyway, it's ok now. [08:39] On another matter, should I create a debdiff between vinagre from debian and the one I built (copied) to send you? [08:42] I also built gnome-characters from scratch. It's not in debian nor Ubuntu. But I'm sure there are many unnecessary files in debian/ by comparing it to other gnome packages, so I won't send it. I need to get familiar with those. [08:52] eliasps, re vinagre, yes just take the debian source add a "copied from debian" changelog, and send me the debdiff [08:52] eliasps, how did you generate the debian/ folder for gnome-characters? [08:53] bzr dh-make [08:54] I changed the watch file for the upstream source, the copyright in debian and the control for the dependencies, added links and all. Don;t know what to do more. [08:57] eliasps, take a look at packaging for the other gjs apps, gnome-weather, gnome-maps etc [08:57] the end result should be similar to those [09:01] darkxst, http://pastebin.com/g22XPeVF also added my name because the other's were doing it. Is it ok? [09:01] Ok on gnome-characters, I'll prepare it and send it to you. [09:03] When you have the time, can you explain to me what one should do if patches can't apply. On many packages, when running quilt push -a (or -f) I get many hunk failures. [09:03] Is it because the code changed in the new version and the patch is for the old one? [09:03] eliasps, no, make a new changelog entry above the debian one [09:04] Ok. [09:04] eliasps, usually its upstream code changes, you need manually apply the failed hunks after running quilt push -f [09:04] when youa re done then quilt refresh [09:05] I see, I will do that! It happens in the majority of packages. [09:05] usually they are pretty simple to fix, just code changes that confuse diff/patch and friends [09:10] I'll give it a shot. [09:11] vinagre's version should be 3.18.0-1~wily0 right? [09:11] without the 1ubuntu1 [09:14] darkxst here: http://pastebin.com/prbz3MSX I hope it's right this time. [09:16] eliasps, yes thats good [09:16] I'll upload gnome-characters on a personal PPA of mine once I'm done with it and send you a link to take a look and check what needs to be done to make it into staging. [09:19] ok [09:19] Thanks for all the mentoring! [09:20] gnome-builder could use packaging also! [09:21] I tried that too, if (and that's a big if) I didn't make anything wrong, some dependencies are unmet. One or two -dev libs versions. [09:21] which libs? [09:21] But I'll try it again. [09:21] Wait, I need to check [09:25] libpeas-dev (1.12.1-2ubuntu1) is one of them, that version is from the official archive. It needs 1.14 or higher. [09:26] eliasps, I uploaded libpeas yesterday, thats at 1.16 noww [09:26] Great! [09:26] if there are other gnome libs that need updating, update them [09:26] but if its clang/llvm type stuff run in the opposite direction [09:27] libgtksourceview-3.0-dev > 3.17.7 [09:27] eliasps, is at 3.18.0-1~wily0 [09:27] http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/wily318.html [09:28] wait, I'll try to install it on my pc again [09:30] upgrading... [09:30] OK, same on that one. I'll upload it into a personal PPA and sent the link. I'll check on the dependencies and I'll let you know! [09:32] eliasps, If I am not around ricotz can review for you [09:33] Ok! :) [09:39] eliasps, vinagre uploaded [09:41] Great! [09:41] darkxst this is what I'm getting on gnome-builder: [09:41] Requested 'libgit2-glib-1.0 >= 0.23.4' but version of libgit2-glib is 0.22.8 [09:41] No package 'libpeas-1.0' found [09:42] libpeas missing a builddep? [09:42] libgit2 needs an update [09:43] This is install from the repo: libpeas-1.0-0 1.16.0-1~wily1 [09:46] eliasps, you need a builddep on libpeas-dev to get the .pc files [09:46] Maybe it's this that should get updated instead? libpeas-dev [09:46] i'll sync libgit2 to ppa in a moment [09:47] eliasps, yes build-dep on libpeas-dev, the actual libpeas-1.0-0 dep gets generated automatically then [09:53] Yes, the only one now is libgit2. [09:53] eliasps, that is coming [09:54] So when the time to fill the debian/control build-deps, I'll skip libpeas-1.0-0 and put libpeas-dev directly, right? [09:54] NB: libgit2 and libgit2-glib are different libraries, IIRC [09:54] (one wraps the other) [09:57] mgedmin, yes you are correct! [09:57] eliasps, yes [09:58] waiting for libgit2 to build, so can sync libgit2-glib [10:10] darkxst did you get Alfredo's email yesterday? About the brand. [10:10] And hi guys [10:11] Inoki, hi and yes [10:11] just replied before [10:11] hi [10:13] kk, glad we got a positive response. That's all I wanted. Oh, btw, if I want to make suggestions on what could be included in future releases, where can I do that. [10:13] Inoki, what suggestions? [10:13] generally file a bug [10:14] then raise it on the mailing list [10:14] It's basically just one suggestion: to provide a complete gnome experience, with ALL gnome apps included by default, like Polari, gnome-clocks and the rest. Currently I have to install all that manually and if we are to provide a pure gnome experience, that would be the way to go. We could provide those instead of alternatives. [10:15] we don't seed an irc client at all? [10:15] Polari isn't installed by default. [10:15] other apps we have been seeding as they mature [10:16] Inoki, I meant there is no IRC app at all, on our images [10:16] Inoki, file 1 bug per app [10:16] There could be, Polari is a nice gnome app. [10:16] There is also that gnome-xchat thing for IRC (not default), in my opinion easier to use than polari. [10:16] that you would like to see seeded [10:16] I don't like gnome-xchat [10:17] but xchat itself doesnt exactly integrate well [10:17] darkxst: wouldn't it be easier to file a general bug against ubuntu-gnome-desktop^ with all apps to be included? [10:17] 1 bug per app = many redundant bugs [10:18] Currently I use Pidgin (manually installed) [10:18] Also, one general bug/suggestion would be easier for others to follow. [10:19] So yea, the goal is to provide a pure gnome experience and that doesn't go w/o core gnome apps. [10:19] Inoki, pidgin used to be seeded, but was dropped for some reason [10:19] Inoki, do it in one bug if you want, but do check what fedora and debian are doing [10:20] I'll do that once on my own laptop, so I can properly test everything. [10:20] I think we already seed more gnome apps than fedora does [10:21] do we have dedicated ppl for apps like Empathy? To iron out stuff... [10:22] Inoki, ubuntu-desktop team [10:22] kk, I'll have a look. [10:22] Gotta run now, ttyl [10:23] I'm a member of that team, but probably the only community member, everyone else are Canonical employees [10:24] They could change that and employ you no? That's what I would do. In any case, one last thing before I go: if I need to file a bug against the tray not showing items properly, which package? [10:29] eliasps, libgit2-glib is publishing now, should be good to go in 10mins or so [10:30] darkxst good, once it's done I'll install gnome-builder and build it for wily. [10:42] I have to be afk for 15'. I'll build gnome-builder when I get back [10:50] darkxst it got installed [10:50] and seems like a great app to be building stuff too! [10:51] eliasps, ok [10:52] * darkxst off for the night [10:53] Bye! [10:56] eliasps, and away for the weekend, back monda [10:56] monday [10:56] Have fun! I'll check with other members of the gnome3-team for the packages. [10:57] eliasps, try ricotz for new packages, Noskcaj for updates [10:57] Ok, thanks! [11:02] hi [11:02] darkxst, somethings seems off with the libgit2 package [11:03] ricotz, what? [11:03] the hard dep on libcurl4-openssl-dev [11:03] i think this should be "libcurl4-openssl-dev | libcurl4-dev" [11:04] otherwise it is not installable [11:05] it should use libcurl4-gnutls-dev even [11:10] ricotz, how did libgit2-glib build if its uninstallable [11:10] darkxst, think about other packages/deps like liboauth-dev [11:15] ricotz, oh I see] [11:19] ricotz, will push fix, then sleep [11:20] darkxst, thanks! [11:24] ricotz, done, I'll be back monday or so [11:24] darkxst, have fun! :) [11:25] darkxst, hmm, I am going to fix it later [11:25] shall do, big weekend of live music, a b;day party and mtb'ing [11:25] you already at sleep ;) [11:26] (I am you didnt fix it) [11:26] (I mean you didnt fix it) [11:30] ricotz, apparently I really should just sleep, night [11:55] darkxst, done [13:03] ricotz are you there? [13:31] hi all [13:52] Excuse me, While Gnome and Ubuntu are most popular, why Ubuntu-Gnome have 54 ranking in distrowatch? [13:53] because nobody cares about distrowatch? ;) [13:54] Nice! [13:55] haha :) [14:02] Can I download kernels from this link? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [14:06] eliasps, kind of [14:08] ricotz I just have some question on building a package. I should use dh_make after I create the makefile. Should I change anything in there? [14:09] eliasps, with "makefile" you mean debian/rules? [14:10] ricotz yes, and the original one. I suppose I shouldn't touch anything outside of debian/ [14:10] yes, do not have to touch anything outside of debian if upstream is fine [14:11] you should better read some debian packaging guides [14:11] so I just generate the debian/ and then edit the necessary files in there. [14:11] I have. [14:11] and after that I build [14:11] yes [14:12] using "dpkg-buildpackage" or "debuild" [14:12] What about all those *.ex files in debian/? Mind that the package is meant for gnome3-staging [14:13] Are there any guidelines on those? [14:13] "*.ex" files? [14:13] when running dh_make, which generates debian/ [14:14] what is the source you are working on? [14:14] gnome-builder [14:14] it creates a bunch of files .ex for instance gnome-builder.cron.d.ex [14:14] init.d.ex [14:15] eliasps, you can get rid of them [14:15] Ok, thank you. [14:16] copyright, rules, control, changelog are a basic essiential ones [14:16] do i have to edit the rules? [14:16] if there are shared libraries you need to handle them and create separate binaries [14:16] of course you need to edit rules [14:17] I have already edited the changelog, control and copyright. I'm a bit confused on that one. [14:17] Anyway, I'll search it more. [14:17] Thank you for your help! [14:17] did you check if there is nobody else working on gnome-builder? [14:18] eliasps, better look at existing packages [14:18] Only with darkxst. We were discussing about it earlier and I told him I'll give it a shot. [14:18] All dependencies are met. [14:18] like anjuta or devhelp [14:18] ah ok, this is what libgit2 updates were for? [14:19] I have updated 4 so far, I'm working on others too. But I thought I give it a shot about building from scratch since I haven't done it. [14:19] Yes. [14:19] ok [14:20] He just told me to ask you regarding new packages. Thank you! [14:29] hi again :) [14:32] eliasps, make sure to use a version scheme like "*-0ubuntu1~wily0" [14:33] should I also put -0ubuntu1 on it? Since it's not in the Ubuntu archives. [14:33] since if the package is new or the version is higher than what is in debian this is what should be used [14:33] It's not in debian either. Ok,I'll use that. [14:33] that is what i asked for [14:34] Yes, I'm just doublechecking [14:34] eliasps, you can build things locally with e.g. pbuilder-dist [14:34] "pbuilder-dist wily create" [14:35] pbuilder-dist wily build gnome-*.dsc [14:35] I use sbuild, every build I've done says it's successful. [14:36] ok [14:36] bbl [15:45] eliasps, gnome-builder is already in debain [15:45] debian [15:46] https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/gnome-builder_3.16.3-1.html [15:49] ricotz thanks, I was using this to track packages: http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/wily318.html [15:49] eliasps, it is stuck in debian's new queue [15:50] I'll update it from that then. [15:53] * ricotz syncs 3.16.3-1 from debian [15:54] eliasps, which packages are you working on? [15:55] cheese, evince, gnome-boxes, gnome-calculator and gnome-characters.. [15:56] https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/gnome-characters_3.16.2-1.html [15:57] Thank you [15:58] I see todo is there too. So no actual initial builds required. [15:58] * ricotz pushed gnome-characters 3.16.2-1 [16:19] bbl [21:39] hi