| you_c_this | Is there a way to get ssh to start after/when it boots? | 00:20 |
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| JonathanFerguson | Am I able to edit the Bug Description of bug 1499636, to include that it was Android version 5.1.1? | 01:13 |
| ubot5` | bug 1499636 in Canonical System Image "Asus Nexus 7 (flo) ubuntu-device-flash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499636 | 01:13 |
| dobey | JonathanFerguson: yes. however, if you want to straight flash a device with ubuntu-device-flash currently, you're going to have to flash the device to stock android 4.4 first. the android 5 kernel/recovery makes flashing not work with ubuntu-device-flash | 02:16 |
| dobey | anyway, it's late here. later :) | 02:16 |
| dobey | JonathanFerguson: boot to bootloader, flash android 4.4 onto the device, boot into android 4.4, reboot to bootloader, and then use ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap | 02:18 |
| dobey | and now, i'm really gone | 02:18 |
| amazoniantoad | If I install ubuntu touch on my phone do I have to do something special to set my phone back up with my carrier? | 02:31 |
| Stanley00 | amazoniantoad: is that a carrier locked phone? | 02:34 |
| amazoniantoad | Stanley00: I didn't know such a thing existed. It's the s4 active | 02:34 |
| amazoniantoad | at&t | 02:34 |
| Stanley00 | amazoniantoad: I'm not sure if ubuntu touch can be installed on locked phone. So just assume it's unlocked then. | 02:39 |
| amazoniantoad | Stanley00: well where can I get an update about ubuntu touch? I just want to know how it is coming along and see how functional it is before I commit to it | 02:40 |
| Stanley00 | amazoniantoad: normally, a full adb backup of your phone and an official rom + the official flashing tools are always needed incase there's any problem while install ubuntu-touch | 02:40 |
| Stanley00 | amazoniantoad: maybe you can check the changelog in this channel's topic | 02:41 |
| amazoniantoad | Stanley00: will it be the full ubuntu OS? Like could I still install the same software I install on my desktop pc on the touch OS? I want to throw it on my touchscreen laptop | 02:41 |
| amazoniantoad | Stanley00: ah | 02:41 |
| Stanley00 | amazoniantoad: ubuntu-touch is different to ubuntu-desktop at the moment. the recommend way to install apps is through app store, and there're just a few apps there, you can check the app list here https://uappexplorer.com/ | 02:43 |
| amazoniantoad | 503 error | 02:43 |
| amazoniantoad | Well that's a shame | 02:43 |
| Stanley00 | amazoniantoad: there's also apt-get way, but it consider a hack, and not for daily use | 02:44 |
| Stanley00 | amazoniantoad: ah, sorry about that 503 :( | 02:44 |
| amazoniantoad | Stanley00: Is there any way to get a real desktop on the touch? Kind of like what windows has done. Where you can go through the simpler GUI or switch to the Desktop mode | 02:45 |
| Stanley00 | amazoniantoad: just connect a mouse or keyboard to ubuntu phone and it will switch to *window* mode automatically | 02:46 |
| ahoneybun | amazoniantoad: the Ubuntu ON AIR Community Q&A is a good place as well | 02:46 |
| ahoneybun | or planet.ubuntu.com | 02:46 |
| ahoneybun | developers post there from time to time | 02:46 |
| ahoneybun | as well as normal userd | 02:46 |
| ahoneybun | *users | 02:46 |
| amazoniantoad | Stanley00: well that's troublesome if you install it on a touchscreen laptop | 02:47 |
| amazoniantoad | Hope I can manually change it | 02:47 |
| amazoniantoad | ahoneybun: thanks for the info | 02:47 |
| ahoneybun | I have the Nexus 4 loaded with Ubuntu and mess with it on some days, (not my daily driver atm | 02:48 |
| Stanley00 | amazoniantoad: doesn't laptop already have a keyboad? and yes, you can change that manually too | 02:48 |
| ahoneybun | amazoniantoad: you can load it in a LXD on Ubuntu 15.04 and onwards | 02:48 |
| ahoneybun | *LXC | 02:49 |
| amazoniantoad | I'm so pumped for this thing | 02:49 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC | 02:49 |
| amazoniantoad | haha | 02:49 |
| ahoneybun | I used a month or so ago and it worked OK | 02:49 |
| Stanley00 | amazoniantoad: if it is a laptop? why not just install the desktop version of ubuntu then? | 02:49 |
| ahoneybun | might be better now | 02:49 |
| amazoniantoad | Stanley00: it is actually a tablet/ultrabook | 02:50 |
| amazoniantoad | The keyboard slides out | 02:50 |
| amazoniantoad | Stanley00: sony vaio duo 11 | 02:50 |
| Stanley00 | amazoniantoad: yeah, but ubuntu-touch and ubuntu-desktop is two different thing now. You need to wait for a while for ubuntu-touch coverage. Me recommend is that you just install ubuntu-desktop on your tablet. | 02:53 |
| ahoneybun | having a device with better hardware and screen would be AMAZING for the US | 03:38 |
| lotuspsychje | i just ordered bq 4.5 black | 03:45 |
| lotuspsychje | from nearby webshops, 3-5 days delivery | 03:46 |
| Stanley00 | lotuspsychje: congratz! :3 | 03:47 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx Stanley00 | 03:47 |
| lotuspsychje | Stanley00: did alot change since bq started? | 03:47 |
| Stanley00 | lotuspsychje: I'm not sure, maybe not so much for an end-user like me. | 03:48 |
| lotuspsychje | ok :p | 03:49 |
| ahoneybun | lotuspsychje: the company or Ubuntu? | 04:01 |
| lotuspsychje | ahoneybun: bq aquarius 4.5 ubuntu touch | 04:04 |
| ahoneybun | lotuspsychje: your asking how the software changed then | 04:04 |
| lotuspsychje | ahoneybun: yes | 04:04 |
| lotuspsychje | did alot changed since bq launched | 04:04 |
| lotuspsychje | battery life n such | 04:05 |
| ahoneybun | the platform has gotten a lot more stable I think, and a few features like Hotspot have been added | 04:05 |
| ahoneybun | I hear the MX4 has great battery life, I don't have the BQ or MX4 to test | 04:05 |
| ahoneybun | would be really useless in the US | 04:05 |
| lotuspsychje | ah right | 04:06 |
| lotuspsychje | im from europe :p | 04:06 |
| ahoneybun | yep lots of options there | 04:06 |
| ahoneybun | only the Nexus 4 or 5 here | 04:07 |
| Stanley00 | lotuspsychje: well, battery life is almost double on BQ since OTA4 or 5, it's long before MX4 launched | 04:10 |
| mikekay | Does any of you use rc-proposed or devel? | 04:10 |
| Stanley00 | mikekay: /me on rc-proposed now | 04:12 |
| mikekay | Okay. Some apps (e.g. Document Viewer and System Settings) are not full screen. Do you know why? Is that by design? | 04:13 |
| lotuspsychje | nice Stanley00 | 04:14 |
| Stanley00 | mikekay: I don't know. What apps? can you give a screenshot? | 04:18 |
| mikekay | Yeah. Give me a sec. | 04:18 |
| mikekay | Here: http://oi59.tinypic.com/27xe6gi.jpg | 04:23 |
| ahoneybun | so that's on a tablet | 04:24 |
| mikekay | The device is a Nexus 7. | 04:24 |
| mikekay | Yes. It may be part of the "side stage feature". | 04:24 |
| mikekay | This landed on proposed a few months ago, and doesn't seem to ever be updated. | 04:25 |
| lotuspsychje | mikekay: nexus7 works best with devel-prposed | 04:28 |
| ahoneybun | I thought I saw somethings land | 04:28 |
| mikekay | Devel-proposed is depreciated | 04:28 |
| mikekay | Plus it was the same there as well. | 04:28 |
| lotuspsychje | mikekay: im running devel-proposed like a charm on my n7 | 04:28 |
| mikekay | Anyway, there seems to be no way to fullscreen this app. I am not sure whether to file a bug report right now. | 04:29 |
| Stanley00 | mikekay: well, I just have an ubuntu phone, not sure how it'll work on tablet :( | 04:29 |
| mikekay | I am pretty sure it is depreciated on the tablet. | 04:30 |
| mikekay | Let me check. | 04:30 |
| lotuspsychje | mikekay: that tinypic is normal | 04:34 |
| mikekay | Can't find it atm. But it was on the mailing list in like august. | 04:34 |
| lotuspsychje | mikekay: its because a tablet should be in landscape mode | 04:34 |
| lotuspsychje | mikekay: its the same on devel-proposed | 04:34 |
| mikekay | Yeah, but the app takes only half the screen. | 04:34 |
| lotuspsychje | like i say | 04:35 |
| lotuspsychje | thats normal | 04:35 |
| lotuspsychje | same for hotmail, system settings | 04:35 |
| lotuspsychje | etc | 04:35 |
| lotuspsychje | nexus7 is a smaller device so | 04:35 |
| lotuspsychje | on a bigger tablet this all would make sense | 04:35 |
| mikekay | I see. Is there any way to make them full screen? If not, it seems like a bug. | 04:35 |
| lotuspsychje | its not a bug | 04:36 |
| lotuspsychje | its normal behaviour | 04:36 |
| mikekay | Ok, understood. I presume the app developer determines whether their app is "side stage" compatible. Right? | 04:38 |
| lotuspsychje | i think so yes | 04:38 |
| mikekay | (Assuming the feature is called side stage). | 04:38 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure whats the correct name of this | 04:38 |
| mikekay | Side Stage is the name. | 04:41 |
| mikekay | Yeah, it seems that app developers chose side stage functionality. Pity that the UI doesn't allow for side stage'd apps to become fullscreen -- e.g. via a leftward drag. | 04:44 |
| lotuspsychje | mikekay: yeah for pdf that would be great | 04:45 |
| lotuspsychje | did you try turn unlock on pdf | 04:46 |
| lotuspsychje | and turn device | 04:46 |
| lotuspsychje | try out devel-proposed mikekay | 04:55 |
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| Amrut | Help needed | 05:43 |
| lotuspsychje | Amrut: ask | 05:45 |
| Amrut | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12615760/ | 05:45 |
| Amrut | blank screen with blinking cursor | 05:46 |
| Amrut | No problem while using the live cd | 05:46 |
| lotuspsychje | Amrut: sounds like a question for #ubuntu | 05:47 |
| Amrut | Shows login page if I insert CD (ASUS Motherboard / P5RD1-VM ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Chipset Support CD Rev.163.05 – 64-bit computing support – M802) | 05:47 |
| lotuspsychje | Amrut: join #ubuntu | 05:47 |
| Amrut | ok thanks | 05:47 |
| guest56723 | how can install ubuntu cope apps on 15.10? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/daily | 07:44 |
| tsdgeos | hmmm, how do i flash a mx4? | 07:58 |
| tsdgeos | 2015/10/01 09:57:39 Device is |k95v2| | 07:58 |
| tsdgeos | Device k95v2 not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/meizu.en | 07:58 |
| tsdgeos | ogra: ↑ ? | 07:58 |
| Stanley00 | tsdgeos: from this url https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices, mx4 has code name m75/arale, not k95v2 | 08:00 |
| tsdgeos | Stanley00: well it came from us in a box saying mx4 | 08:00 |
| tsdgeos | i'd hope canonical to know what it's shipping me | 08:01 |
| tsdgeos | but maybe not :/ | 08:02 |
| Stanley00 | tsdgeos: well, google said that codename actually is a MX4, but maybe with flyme 0s | 08:02 |
| Stanley00 | *Flyme OS* | 08:02 |
| tsdgeos | that looks like it | 08:02 |
| tsdgeos | it has lots of chinese in it | 08:02 |
| tsdgeos | wonder if i need to flash android into it first | 08:03 |
| Stanley00 | tsdgeos: in that case, it may be different than MX4 ubuntu edition, but I'm not sure about this. | 08:03 |
| tsdgeos | it not the "Ubuntu Edition" for sure, we don't get the "official" release devices to play with | 08:04 |
| tsdgeos | but still get to install the stuff into it | 08:04 |
| Stanley00 | tsdgeos: I found this one, looks like a bad news for you, http://news.softpedia.com/news/buying-a-meizu-mx4-with-android-to-flash-ubuntu-is-not-a-good-idea-485495.shtml | 08:06 |
| tsdgeos | Stanley00: that's for non canonical people, we know how to flash it | 08:09 |
| tsdgeos | just needed to find someone to tell me how :D | 08:09 |
| guest56723 | tsdgeos, what buttons has one to push for ubuntu core apps ppa to has 15.10 builds? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/daily | 08:10 |
| tsdgeos | guest56723: no idea sorry | 08:10 |
| tsdgeos | popey: maybe? ↑ | 08:11 |
| guest56723 | tsdgeos, yep it's probably popey s fault | 08:11 |
| guest56723 | thanks tsdgeos | 08:11 |
| Stanley00 | tsdgeos: first, you may need to unlock boot loader, repartition with mtk flash tool, and then you may need to make a channel for it, as in this mailling list? https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg13078.html | 08:12 |
| Stanley00 | tsdgeos: disclaim, I'm just an end user. Do it at your own risk :3 | 08:13 |
| Stanley00 | I got to go now, see you later. And good luck. | 08:13 |
| tsdgeos | Stanley00: i got the instructions already, do not worry | 08:13 |
| guest123124 | uh, webbrowser-app locked my pc :/ (x11/nouveau) | 08:34 |
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| mcphail | Would anyone be kind enough to confirm a bug for me? | 09:14 |
| mcphail | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1501668 | 09:14 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1501668 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "ListItem leadingActions have odd behaviour" [Undecided,New] | 09:14 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy International Coffee Day! 😃 🍵 | 10:21 |
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| mpt | How do I copy an arbitrary file, requested by an engineer/triager, off the phone? I couldn’t find the answer at <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Bugs> | 10:27 |
| mpt | I guess it’s an adb command… | 10:27 |
| guest42315 | mpt, cp the file to ~/Desktop (then open nautilus) | 10:29 |
| mpt | guest42315, well, sure, I could cp if I knew where the phone is on the fileystem :-) | 10:30 |
| guest42315 | use the usb cable, connect the phone to pc and it will auto mount | 10:31 |
| mpt | Yes it does | 10:32 |
| guest42315 | you can then access desktop pictures videos etc from nautilus | 10:32 |
| mpt | guest42315, right, but the file I want to copy is in /var/, which is (for good reason) not exposed in Nautilus | 10:32 |
| guest42315 | adb shell | 10:32 |
| guest42315 | cp /var/random_file ~/Desktop | 10:33 |
| guest42315 | done | 10:33 |
| guest42315 | or use pull | 10:33 |
| mpt | I thought “adb pull /var/log/system-image/client.log client.log” would help, but it just says “error: closed” | 10:34 |
| guest42315 | adb pull <remote> [<local>] - copy file/dir from device | 10:34 |
| guest42315 | mpt, enable developer mode on the phone | 10:34 |
| mpt | remote object '/var/log/system-image/client.log' does not exist | 10:34 |
| mpt | Developer Mode is on :-) | 10:34 |
| mpt | The file does exist, because inside adb shell I can run “less” on it | 10:35 |
| guest42315 | try pull after connected? | 10:36 |
| mpt | “remote object '/var/log/system-image/client.log' does not exist” | 10:36 |
| guest42315 | try the easy way.. just cp /var/log/system-image/client.log ~/Desktop | 10:37 |
| guest42315 | then see in the ~/Desktop folder on the phone from nautilus | 10:37 |
| mpt | “cp: cannot create regular file ‘/home/phablet/Desktop/’: Not a directory” | 10:38 |
| guest42315 | o_O | 10:38 |
| mpt | It has a point … I’ll try Documents/ | 10:38 |
| guest42315 | try that | 10:38 |
| mpt | wey-hey! that worked. Thanks guest42315 | 10:38 |
| guest42315 | mpt, :D yay | 10:39 |
| mpt | Ah, I spoke too soon | 10:40 |
| mpt | Nautilus shows the file in the folder, but it can’t be read by anything. For example, gedit says “Unexpected error: libmtp error: Unknown error.”. And trying to copy it, Nautilus says “libmtp error: Could not get file from device.” | 10:41 |
| guest42315 | that's weird :/ | 10:42 |
| seb128 | mpt, what Ubuntu version do you use? | 10:42 |
| mpt | 14.04 | 10:42 |
| seb128 | the libmtp there doesn't know about your device | 10:42 |
| seb128 | I just uploaded a SRU which update the list of devices | 10:42 |
| seb128 | but that's not accepted/built yet | 10:43 |
| seb128 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmtp/+bug/1376212 | 10:43 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1376212 in libmtp (Ubuntu Trusty) "BQ Aquaris E4.5 Android Phone not recognised by libmtp" [High,In progress] | 10:43 |
| mpt | ahhhhhhh | 10:43 |
| mpt | thanks seb128 :-] | 10:43 |
| seb128 | mpt, you can get working versions from https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools | 10:43 |
| seb128 | meanwhile | 10:43 |
| mpt | I smell a yak | 10:44 |
| jnxd | Hello, this is with reference to this bug about proxy on ubuntu phone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1452291. I am suffering heavily due to this bug. There is a workaround given somewhere where I edit the environment file to get the internet working. But even that works only for apps that use the webview, so I think it's just a chromium thing that fortunately got passed on here. | 10:55 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1452291 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu RTM) "Browser cannot use system proxy settings" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:55 |
| jnxd | I want to know, how deep into the ubuntu phone might I have to go to be able to fix this. Ideally, I'd like all apps to use a default proxy rather than try to connect straight to the internet, but I would be happy if I'm even able to get my app working, and can offer some snippets for any other app to start using. | 10:59 |
| seb128 | mpt, hey, I commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1391077 with some questions (basically I think unity8 doesn't provide what we need to implement the design so wonder what's the best fallback option until that's done) | 11:17 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1391077 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Inappropriate notification of system update" [Low,New] | 11:17 |
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| robjh | Hi. I've got a new mx4 and im trying to have a play with it. ive enabled writable mode. any calls to systemctl give me an error about failing to get a dbus connection. is there a special way of accessing it? | 11:55 |
| robjh | looks like it's still using service | 11:57 |
| robjh | awesome :D | 11:58 |
| jgdx | robjh, it's using upstart | 12:00 |
| robjh | jgdx: good to know, thank you :) | 12:00 |
| jgdx | robjh, what's the job you wanna handle? | 12:01 |
| robjh | sshd | 12:01 |
| robjh | i always forget my phone at work, if i can ssh to it, i can shut it down xD | 12:02 |
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| jgdx | robjh, sudo initctl list # | 12:03 |
| robjh | the ssh service is running, i dont think its enabled on boot though | 12:06 |
| robjh | hahaha its working! xD | 12:15 |
| Paddy_NI | Hi I have been fruitlessly following this guide http://a25.co/ubuntu-phone-how-to-install-android/ in an effort to put android on the BQ Aquarius E4.5 (for the time being) and keep hitting a brick wall | 12:17 |
| Paddy_NI | Would anyone here know if I can use the firmware I have downloaded for the Android version of this device using simple fastboot/adb commands | 12:17 |
| Paddy_NI | The BQ flash tool is pretty poor | 12:18 |
| jgdx | ogra, ^ you know? | 12:19 |
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| tathhu | All I know it worked when I had E5 :P | 12:22 |
| Paddy_NI | :-) | 12:22 |
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| kenvandine | seb128, sorry i hadn't seen your branch fixing the desktop file lookup, glad to see a fix for that bug :) | 13:09 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i'll get your branch landed now so it's in ota7 | 13:10 |
| kenvandine | seb128, but... that code won't work for apps in the libertine container, so i'll figure out why my branch didn't work and get that landed post ota7 | 13:10 |
| kenvandine | that's why i used UAL to get the desktop file, it should work for all apps, even in the containers :) | 13:11 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, sure, I've no idea how libertine and the api you used work | 13:11 |
| seb128 | I just went for the easy change | 13:11 |
| kenvandine | understood | 13:11 |
| kenvandine | and that works great for today :) | 13:11 |
| seb128 | :-) | 13:12 |
| seb128 | btw any reason you didn't include some of my fixes in the recent update? | 13:12 |
| kenvandine | maybe that id doesn't include the pkg and version? | 13:12 |
| seb128 | like the cmake hackery to files listed in qtcreator | 13:12 |
| kenvandine | i haven't landed anything in settings... | 13:12 |
| kenvandine | not recently | 13:12 |
| seb128 | you did while I was on holidays | 13:12 |
| seb128 | some weeks ago | 13:12 |
| kenvandine | ah | 13:12 |
| kenvandine | i was keeping landings down to a few branches at a time | 13:13 |
| seb128 | k | 13:13 |
| kenvandine | sorry :) | 13:13 |
| seb128 | no worry, I just noticed it was still pending | 13:13 |
| kenvandine | i need to do another landing | 13:13 |
| seb128 | and it's a no change for runtime | 13:13 |
| seb128 | so seems like easy to include | 13:13 |
| kenvandine | right, that's probably why i deferred it | 13:13 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, and yeah, the non-click packages appid is not versioned | 13:14 |
| seb128 | it's unity8-dash iirc for the dash | 13:14 |
| kenvandine | right... so i guess the id in this case isn't versioned | 13:14 |
| kenvandine | so i need to resolve that | 13:14 |
| kenvandine | should be an easy fix | 13:14 |
| kenvandine | but not important for ota7 | 13:15 |
| seb128 | right | 13:15 |
| kenvandine | i recently discovered the ubuntu_app_launch_application_info and have found it very useful in my work on containers and content-hub :) | 13:17 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i have a branch that shows legacy apps in the container in the peer picker :) | 13:17 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, great! | 13:18 |
| jnxd | Hello, this is with reference to this bug about proxy on ubuntu phone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1452291. I am suffering heavily due to this bug. There is a workaround given somewhere where I edit the environment file to get the internet working. But even that works only for apps that use the webview, so I think it's just a chromium thing that fortunately got passed on here. | 13:29 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1452291 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu RTM) "Browser cannot use system proxy settings" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:29 |
| jnxd | I want to know, how deep into the ubuntu phone might I have to go to be able to fix this. Ideally, I'd like all apps to use a default proxy rather than try to connect straight to the internet, but I would be happy if I'm even able to get my app working, and can offer some snippets for any other app to start using. | 13:30 |
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| pmcgowan | oSoMoN, thoughts on the bug above? why is the proxy not just used | 13:54 |
| mhall119 | sil2100: do we have new click framework name for what's in the overlay PPA? | 13:56 |
| sil2100 | mhall119: there's 15.04 and the 15.04.1 framework | 13:56 |
| oSoMoN | pmcgowan, jnxd: as pointed out by mpt in the bug report, this is an issue in network-manager | 13:57 |
| sil2100 | And that's basically it | 13:57 |
| mhall119 | sil2100: ok, so 15.04.1 has the Ubuntu.Components 1.3? | 13:57 |
| sil2100 | mhall119: yeah, OTA-7 will be the first stable image to ship with this framework | 13:57 |
| pmcgowan | oSoMoN, on desktop as well? seems odd | 13:58 |
| oSoMoN | pmcgowan, yes, we can’t expect every single application out there to check for system settings to use the proxy, this should be transparent for apps | 13:59 |
| pmcgowan | oSoMoN, agreed just surprised its not already that way | 13:59 |
| mpt | It’s been that way for eleven years and counting :-] | 14:00 |
| jnxd | oSoMoN: Is there ANYTHING that can be done, apart from wait? It renders my phone more or less useless. | 14:00 |
| oSoMoN | jnxd, unfortunately I’m not aware of any way to work around this issue, but network-managers devs would know | 14:01 |
| oSoMoN | cyphermox, awe_ ^^ | 14:01 |
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| cyphermox | proxy currently has nothing to do with NM | 14:02 |
| cyphermox | if oxide doesn't follow proxy settings, that's bug and I'd argue a pretty important one at that, too | 14:03 |
| jnxd | pmcgowan, oSoMoN: at least on GNOME, almost all my apps are using the same proxy settings, which I had set in the the Network part of GNOME Settings | 14:03 |
| oSoMoN | so every single app has to implement proxy settings? that’s insane | 14:05 |
| oSoMoN | this should be transparent | 14:05 |
| cyphermox | pmcgowan: oSoMoN: on the desktop, applications are all able to seemlessly use proxy settings because they all use some library or framework which understands it, such as libsoup. | 14:05 |
| jnxd | cyphermox: from what I gather of oxide, it is the thing that allows chromium to work. All apps using webview are working. | 14:05 |
| cyphermox | jnxd: so apps work but not the browser? | 14:05 |
| jnxd | even browser works, but the proxy settings had to be done through terminal in /etc/environment | 14:06 |
| cyphermox | ah | 14:06 |
| jnxd | however, apps like telegram, or the scopes don't work | 14:06 |
| cyphermox | that certainly clarifies it | 14:06 |
| oSoMoN | jnxd, ah, thanks, I hadn’t understood that | 14:06 |
| cyphermox | I'm not surprised gsettings won't help you here | 14:07 |
| jnxd | the youtube scope is peculiar: it seemingly can gather metadata about videos, but cannot play them | 14:07 |
| cyphermox | so the bug probably should be updated to have a task for each bit that doesn't work | 14:08 |
| oSoMoN | yes, definitely | 14:08 |
| cyphermox | and we'd need a different wishlist bug for "implement proxy controls in system settings" | 14:08 |
| jnxd | There pretty surely needs to be a GUI, preferably one that can change per connection | 14:08 |
| cyphermox | jnxd: one day you'll have the per-connection part in NM, but there isn't proxy integration yet, not even on desktop | 14:10 |
| jnxd | cyphermox: I realize that | 14:10 |
| cyphermox | maybe it's doable on the phone some other way, but it probably should go through NM, it would be the logical way to do it | 14:10 |
| jnxd | cyphermox: I'm sorry I'm illiterate in these regards :/ | 14:11 |
| cyphermox | no worries | 14:11 |
| cyphermox | jnxd: the proxy situation is complicated | 14:12 |
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| cyphermox | nobody had the time to spend on properly fixing that in NM -- it's on the todo list upstream though | 14:12 |
| jnxd | cyphermox: But it's important, at least as far as my college experience goes. | 14:13 |
| cyphermox | oh, you have that issue in college? | 14:13 |
| cyphermox | that's unexpected, it usually is far more common in large enterprises | 14:13 |
| jnxd | cyphermox: yes. both my masters and bachelors institutes use proxy settings | 14:14 |
| cyphermox | ah | 14:14 |
| bretth | Hey all! I have a quick question about scope development. | 15:16 |
| davidcalle | bretth, shoot! | 15:17 |
| bretth | Is it possible to set up some cards or categories to not go to the preview screen when clicked? | 15:17 |
| davidcalle | bretth, no, only the apps scope is allowed to do this AFAIK | 15:18 |
| davidcalle | Saviq ^ | 15:19 |
| Saviq | bretth, correct, the apps scope is an unfortunate exception, otherwise users would not know if tapping on a result would get them more info or take them somewhere else completely | 15:20 |
| bretth | That makes sense. Then, is there a way to set up multiple preview layouts and have different categories go to different layouts? | 15:22 |
| dobey | bretth: you can add extra metadata to the result, and in your preview function just change what widgets you show based on that | 15:24 |
| bretth | That works. Thanks for the help! | 15:25 |
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| mcphail | Would anyone be kind enough to check and/or confirm a UI bug for me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1501668 | 15:56 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1501668 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "ListItem leadingActions have odd behaviour" [Undecided,New] | 15:56 |
| ahayzen | mcphail, is that the same as bug 1486008 ? | 16:04 |
| ubot5` | bug 1486008 in Ubuntu UX "[sdk] leading actions width is too small making it very difficult to press" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1486008 | 16:04 |
| pmcgowan | mcphail, not seeing it here the item always deletes | 16:04 |
| mcphail | ahayzen: don't _think_ so. Easily big enough to press | 16:04 |
| mcphail | pmcgowan: that is interesting. Are you on dev channel? | 16:05 |
| ahayzen | mcphail, the bug is that the *mousearea* is too small .. visually yes its too small but it infact dismisses rather than selecting | 16:05 |
| ahayzen | mcphail, and yeah its not scheduled to land until OTA7, we're blocking on music and weather because of it :-/ | 16:05 |
| mcphail | ahayzen: maybe that is it, then | 16:06 |
| mcphail | ahayzen: definiy seems to follow the behaviour in my bug report though. Clickiness depends on how far the item is dragged | 16:07 |
| ahayzen | mcphail, or are you saying that if you don't drag it far enough you don't even get a chance to click ? | 16:07 |
| mcphail | ahayzen: you get a chance to click, but the icon just disappears after the click. The "delete" action doesn't happen | 16:08 |
| ahayzen | ah yeah that sounds like the same thing, i think | 16:08 |
| mcphail | ahayzen: nice to see it might be fixed already, then. Cheers! | 16:09 |
| ahayzen | hopefully :-) | 16:09 |
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| tathhu | ayy | 16:35 |
| tathhu | Damn, another day without ubuntu phone, tomorrow it is ^^ | 16:36 |
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| robjh | can the released version of mir display x-windows? | 17:16 |
| robjh | and on an unrelated note; has super tux been ported yet? | 17:18 |
| popey | yes | 17:19 |
| k1l | there is some work on xMir | 17:19 |
| robjh | i did a google for an x11 hello world program and found this: http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~mcbryan/5229.03/mail/35.htm I've got it to compile but so far i've had no luck running it :p | 17:27 |
| popey | you wont, the phone doesn't have X11 on it | 17:28 |
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| robjh | thats why i asked if the released version of mir can display x-windows | 17:30 |
| dobey | no version of mir can. xmir can translate X calls to be displayed on mir | 17:35 |
| dobey | the xmir package is built from the xorg-server source package, not from mir source :) | 17:36 |
| robjh | oooh okay | 17:37 |
| dobey | and xmir is not part of the phone images yet. | 17:37 |
| robjh | trying to break the device like this is a lot of fun :p | 17:43 |
| popey | It is! | 17:43 |
| dobey | until it breaks :) | 17:43 |
| robjh | it'll either succeed, or i'll accidentally end up running xfce | 17:43 |
| robjh | if it breaks, then i get to learn all about fixing it xD | 17:45 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i just noticed that falldown now has a setting for tilt sensitivity, you can adjust it now! | 17:53 |
| robjh | im poking unity with a pointy kill command to see what happens. it just restarts | 17:54 |
| robjh | is there something i can read about writing a scope? | 17:57 |
| robjh | i found this https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/scopes/cpp/current/ | 18:03 |
| popey | robjh: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/tutorials/ | 18:03 |
| robjh | ahh, thank you :) | 18:03 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, nice! | 18:05 |
| kenvandine | seb128, now maybe i can beat your highscore :) | 18:11 |
| Robert_Zenz | I'm hav trouble with Telepathy. I've uninstalled, but on every update its updates are included (which obviously reinstalls it again). | 18:13 |
| Robert_Zenz | Has somebody seen that before? | 18:13 |
| pmcgowan | Robert_Zenz, updates are image based and do not honor apt changes | 18:16 |
| Robert_Zenz | pmcgowan, so the apps that came bundled with the phone will always be updated even if I remove them? | 18:17 |
| mterry | awe_, is there a planned silo for that PropertiesChanged bug? | 18:19 |
| mterry | (for ota7?) | 18:19 |
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| awe_ | mterry, just starting on it now. Silo for vivid expected hopefully tomorrow... | 18:23 |
| mterry | awe_, sweet. If you need any help (like testing or whatever) let me know | 18:24 |
| awe_ | thanks, will do | 18:24 |
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| mariogrip | qmuxd cannot connect to /dev/smdcntl0. (Connection timed out) anyone have an idea why? | 19:08 |
| mariogrip | awe_: I am pretty stuck with this issue... ^ | 19:10 |
| mariogrip | Here is strace of qmuxd https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/57wdijyv/ | 19:12 |
| tathhu | Can I already import contacts from .vcf? :P | 19:13 |
| mariogrip | *this is the correct paste for qmuxd, the other one was rmt_storage... https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jgxCAVLL/ | 19:14 |
| ahoneybun | hey mariogrip | 19:19 |
| mariogrip | hay | 19:19 |
| ahoneybun | anyone with a nexus 10 ? | 19:19 |
| popey | i doubt anyone has booted a nexus 10 recently | 19:20 |
| ahoneybun | mariogrip: how's the oneplus one? | 19:20 |
| popey | it's not top of the list | 19:20 |
| ahoneybun | damn | 19:20 |
| popey | mariogrip: I saw ~200 people in a pub last night queueing for a OnePlus 2 invite | 19:20 |
| ahoneybun | I see there is a devel and devel-proposed channel | 19:20 |
| popey | it was ridiculous | 19:20 |
| popey | in a hipster part of london | 19:20 |
| * ahoneybun notes popey is a hipster | 19:21 | |
| popey | maybe I'm just jealous because we don't get demand like that ;) | 19:21 |
| popey | haha | 19:21 |
| popey | I am _so_ not a hipster :) | 19:21 |
| ahoneybun | OnePlus Two is stupid | 19:21 |
| ahoneybun | OnePlus One is better | 19:21 |
| mariogrip | wuut, the Opt is awesome :D | 19:21 |
| ahoneybun | one word | 19:21 |
| ahoneybun | NFC | 19:21 |
| mariogrip | hahah, when was last time u use nfc? | 19:22 |
| ahoneybun | everyday | 19:22 |
| mariogrip | well, then | 19:22 |
| ahoneybun | I have NFC stickers around the house and in my car | 19:22 |
| ahoneybun | and Android Pay | 19:22 |
| ahoneybun | might be the reason I can't use Ubuntu | 19:23 |
| mariogrip | well, for me i never use nfc so the two is perfect | 19:23 |
| ahoneybun | Touch anyway | 19:23 |
| mariogrip | usb c <3 | 19:23 |
| awe_ | mariogrip, it looks like the open to the device succeeds; I only see errors for hsictl0 | 19:23 |
| awe_ | never mind | 19:24 |
| awe_ | I missed it | 19:24 |
| mariogrip | hsictl0 is Bluetooth i believe | 19:24 |
| ahoneybun | guess I need a Nexus 7 more then anything popey | 19:26 |
| awe_ | looks like smd is a qualcomm 'shared memory packet driver' ( smdpkt ) | 19:26 |
| awe_ | qmuxd is !FOSS, right? | 19:27 |
| awe_ | my guess is that if it's failed, then something's not write in the device tarball / container boot | 19:27 |
| awe_ | have you tried looking at the radio logcat? | 19:28 |
| awe_ | ( if that works ) | 19:28 |
| mariogrip | logcat -b radio = https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/KPxbhw6M/ | 19:28 |
| mariogrip | but it gets E_RADIO_NOT_AVAILABLE due to qmuxd (mux) | 19:29 |
| dobey | Robert_Zenz: yes, the system is based on image updates. enabling read/write and trying to update with apt will break your phone, and if you try to install other things, you'll probably find yourself with a full / partition fairly fast. also, telepathy is required for SMS to work. if you want to install other packages with apt to play with, you need to use a chroot | 19:30 |
| awe_ | mariogrip, if youre sure about that ( RADIO_UNAVAIL coming from the qmux failure ), then I'd look at the init files inside the container. See if there's anything that touches qmuxd, or the devices involved | 19:30 |
| Robert_Zenz | dobey, uhg, my bad, I meant Telegram... | 19:31 |
| awe_ | also... I'd take a close look at the syslog, especially during the boot sequence | 19:31 |
| awe_ | see if anything jumps out at you and/or is related to the smd driver | 19:31 |
| Robert_Zenz | doanac, I uninstalled Telegram and it keeps coming back... | 19:31 |
| dobey | Robert_Zenz: oh, once you uninstall that, it shouldn't automatically re-appear (but you're not going to free up storage space by removing it) | 19:32 |
| dobey | Robert_Zenz: that's a bug | 19:32 |
| popey | depends how you are measuring "coming back" | 19:32 |
| dobey | Robert_Zenz: please file a bug about it | 19:32 |
| popey | if the icon keeps re-appearing in a system update? | 19:32 |
| dobey | popey: if it reappears in the apps scope after being uninstalled, it's a bug | 19:32 |
| popey | agreed | 19:32 |
| popey | thats why i asked | 19:32 |
| Robert_Zenz | dobey, popey, I uninstalled it, but the system updates keep proposing updates for it (which of course reinstalls it when applied). | 19:33 |
| popey | how did you uninstall it? | 19:33 |
| dobey | that's a bug. individual app updates shouldn't be shown for apps that were uninstalled | 19:33 |
| Robert_Zenz | popey, "normal", long press on icon -> Uninstall. | 19:34 |
| dobey | actuallly, i have a bug open about this already | 19:34 |
| dobey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1314382 | 19:34 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1314382 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Updates shown for pre-installed apps which have been uninstalled" [Low,Confirmed] | 19:34 |
| dobey | so it'd be that bug | 19:35 |
| mariogrip | awe_: here is full syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12634215/ | 19:35 |
| Robert_Zenz | dobey, I'm not sure fi it was pre-installed, but thanks for that. I'll keep an eye on the bug. | 19:38 |
| dobey | Robert_Zenz: what device are you on? | 19:40 |
| dobey | and channel, if you switched to a different image updates channel | 19:40 |
| Robert_Zenz | dobey, Nexus 4.5 and no. | 19:42 |
| dobey | the google nexus 4, or the bq aquaris 4.5? | 19:43 |
| Robert_Zenz | dobey, maybe I should go to bed or something... bq aquaris 4.5, right... | 19:47 |
| dobey | ok, yes, telegram comes installed by default on the ubuntu edition of that phone, i'm pretty sure | 19:47 |
| Robert_Zenz | dobey, okay, than that's the bug you've filed. Thank you very much. | 19:48 |
| awe_ | mariogrip, nothing jumping out at me in the syslog... Again, I'd advise taking a look at whether anything changed in the container boot sequence vs. straight CM | 19:53 |
| awe_ | mariogrip, also in the qmuxd strace output | 19:54 |
| awe_ | I see errors for two /sys files for the modem | 19:54 |
| mariogrip | but, can it be a problem with the kernel? a driver or something | 19:54 |
| awe_ | rmnet_ctl_ch | 19:54 |
| awe_ | so you're using a kernel based off the CM port, right? | 19:55 |
| awe_ | my guess is that it's a missing configuration file | 19:55 |
| awe_ | or it could be something like a bad change to the init.rc involving modem devices, permissions, ... | 19:56 |
| awe_ | my gut tells me it's more along those lines | 19:56 |
| mariogrip | no, im using this https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/android_kernel_oneplus_msm8994 but it has the same config as cm has | 19:56 |
| awe_ | ( ie something wrong in device tarball; not the kernel ) | 19:56 |
| awe_ | but the only way to tell is to either (a) start looking at the driver source | 19:57 |
| mariogrip | I have set all to run with the root user in init.rc so there should not be any permission errors | 19:57 |
| awe_ | or (b) compare a CM image ( or other AOSP image ); and instrument qmuxd there | 19:57 |
| awe_ | I'm just tossing ideas out there | 19:58 |
| mariogrip | yeah | 19:58 |
| awe_ | without a device and/or source code for qmuxd, I'm left at educated guessing | 19:58 |
| awe_ | wish I could offer more | 19:58 |
| mariogrip | yeah, this is been a hard nut to crack... i have been working on it for months xP | 19:59 |
| awe_ | mariogrip, another idea would be to take a look at mako for comparison. It includes qmuxd, and has the smd driver | 20:01 |
| awe_ | again, when we did the mako port, we started with a working rild | 20:01 |
| awe_ | anyways, I have to prep some MPs for OTA7, so gotta get back to it. If I have any other ideas, I'll let you know. You could also reach out on the mailing list, might get some more eyeballs on the problem | 20:03 |
| mariogrip | Yeah, ill try that. that might work due to qmuxd is already working there | 20:03 |
| awe_ | indeed | 20:03 |
| mariogrip | but thanks! :D | 20:03 |
| awe_ | yw | 20:03 |
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| mariogrip | awe_: this seems promising don't it? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aiYnRlja/ | 22:58 |
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