[00:20] Is there a way to get ssh to start after/when it boots? [01:13] Am I able to edit the Bug Description of bug 1499636, to include that it was Android version 5.1.1? [01:13] bug 1499636 in Canonical System Image "Asus Nexus 7 (flo) ubuntu-device-flash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499636 [02:16] JonathanFerguson: yes. however, if you want to straight flash a device with ubuntu-device-flash currently, you're going to have to flash the device to stock android 4.4 first. the android 5 kernel/recovery makes flashing not work with ubuntu-device-flash [02:16] anyway, it's late here. later :) [02:18] JonathanFerguson: boot to bootloader, flash android 4.4 onto the device, boot into android 4.4, reboot to bootloader, and then use ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap [02:18] and now, i'm really gone [02:31] If I install ubuntu touch on my phone do I have to do something special to set my phone back up with my carrier? [02:34] amazoniantoad: is that a carrier locked phone? [02:34] Stanley00: I didn't know such a thing existed. It's the s4 active [02:34] at&t [02:39] amazoniantoad: I'm not sure if ubuntu touch can be installed on locked phone. So just assume it's unlocked then. [02:40] Stanley00: well where can I get an update about ubuntu touch? I just want to know how it is coming along and see how functional it is before I commit to it [02:40] amazoniantoad: normally, a full adb backup of your phone and an official rom + the official flashing tools are always needed incase there's any problem while install ubuntu-touch [02:41] amazoniantoad: maybe you can check the changelog in this channel's topic [02:41] Stanley00: will it be the full ubuntu OS? Like could I still install the same software I install on my desktop pc on the touch OS? I want to throw it on my touchscreen laptop [02:41] Stanley00: ah [02:43] amazoniantoad: ubuntu-touch is different to ubuntu-desktop at the moment. the recommend way to install apps is through app store, and there're just a few apps there, you can check the app list here https://uappexplorer.com/ [02:43] 503 error [02:43] Well that's a shame [02:44] amazoniantoad: there's also apt-get way, but it consider a hack, and not for daily use [02:44] amazoniantoad: ah, sorry about that 503 :( [02:45] Stanley00: Is there any way to get a real desktop on the touch? Kind of like what windows has done. Where you can go through the simpler GUI or switch to the Desktop mode [02:46] amazoniantoad: just connect a mouse or keyboard to ubuntu phone and it will switch to *window* mode automatically [02:46] amazoniantoad: the Ubuntu ON AIR Community Q&A is a good place as well [02:46] or planet.ubuntu.com [02:46] developers post there from time to time [02:46] as well as normal userd [02:46] *users [02:47] Stanley00: well that's troublesome if you install it on a touchscreen laptop [02:47] Hope I can manually change it [02:47] ahoneybun: thanks for the info [02:48] I have the Nexus 4 loaded with Ubuntu and mess with it on some days, (not my daily driver atm [02:48] amazoniantoad: doesn't laptop already have a keyboad? and yes, you can change that manually too [02:48] amazoniantoad: you can load it in a LXD on Ubuntu 15.04 and onwards [02:49] *LXC [02:49] I'm so pumped for this thing [02:49] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC [02:49] haha [02:49] I used a month or so ago and it worked OK [02:49] amazoniantoad: if it is a laptop? why not just install the desktop version of ubuntu then? [02:49] might be better now [02:50] Stanley00: it is actually a tablet/ultrabook [02:50] The keyboard slides out [02:50] Stanley00: sony vaio duo 11 [02:53] amazoniantoad: yeah, but ubuntu-touch and ubuntu-desktop is two different thing now. You need to wait for a while for ubuntu-touch coverage. Me recommend is that you just install ubuntu-desktop on your tablet. [03:38] having a device with better hardware and screen would be AMAZING for the US [03:45] i just ordered bq 4.5 black [03:46] from nearby webshops, 3-5 days delivery [03:47] lotuspsychje: congratz! :3 [03:47] tnx Stanley00 [03:47] Stanley00: did alot change since bq started? [03:48] lotuspsychje: I'm not sure, maybe not so much for an end-user like me. [03:49] ok :p [04:01] lotuspsychje: the company or Ubuntu? [04:04] ahoneybun: bq aquarius 4.5 ubuntu touch [04:04] lotuspsychje: your asking how the software changed then [04:04] ahoneybun: yes [04:04] did alot changed since bq launched [04:05] battery life n such [04:05] the platform has gotten a lot more stable I think, and a few features like Hotspot have been added [04:05] I hear the MX4 has great battery life, I don't have the BQ or MX4 to test [04:05] would be really useless in the US [04:06] ah right [04:06] im from europe :p [04:06] yep lots of options there [04:07] only the Nexus 4 or 5 here [04:10] lotuspsychje: well, battery life is almost double on BQ since OTA4 or 5, it's long before MX4 launched [04:10] Does any of you use rc-proposed or devel? [04:12] mikekay: /me on rc-proposed now [04:13] Okay. Some apps (e.g. Document Viewer and System Settings) are not full screen. Do you know why? Is that by design? [04:14] nice Stanley00 [04:18] mikekay: I don't know. What apps? can you give a screenshot? [04:18] Yeah. Give me a sec. [04:23] Here: http://oi59.tinypic.com/27xe6gi.jpg [04:24] so that's on a tablet [04:24] The device is a Nexus 7. [04:24] Yes. It may be part of the "side stage feature". [04:25] This landed on proposed a few months ago, and doesn't seem to ever be updated. [04:28] mikekay: nexus7 works best with devel-prposed [04:28] I thought I saw somethings land [04:28] Devel-proposed is depreciated [04:28] Plus it was the same there as well. [04:28] mikekay: im running devel-proposed like a charm on my n7 [04:29] Anyway, there seems to be no way to fullscreen this app. I am not sure whether to file a bug report right now. [04:29] mikekay: well, I just have an ubuntu phone, not sure how it'll work on tablet :( [04:30] I am pretty sure it is depreciated on the tablet. [04:30] Let me check. [04:34] mikekay: that tinypic is normal [04:34] Can't find it atm. But it was on the mailing list in like august. [04:34] mikekay: its because a tablet should be in landscape mode [04:34] mikekay: its the same on devel-proposed [04:34] Yeah, but the app takes only half the screen. [04:35] like i say [04:35] thats normal [04:35] same for hotmail, system settings [04:35] etc [04:35] nexus7 is a smaller device so [04:35] on a bigger tablet this all would make sense [04:35] I see. Is there any way to make them full screen? If not, it seems like a bug. [04:36] its not a bug [04:36] its normal behaviour [04:38] Ok, understood. I presume the app developer determines whether their app is "side stage" compatible. Right? [04:38] i think so yes [04:38] (Assuming the feature is called side stage). [04:38] not sure whats the correct name of this [04:41] Side Stage is the name. [04:44] Yeah, it seems that app developers chose side stage functionality. Pity that the UI doesn't allow for side stage'd apps to become fullscreen -- e.g. via a leftward drag. [04:45] mikekay: yeah for pdf that would be great [04:46] did you try turn unlock on pdf [04:46] and turn device [04:55] try out devel-proposed mikekay === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:43] Help needed [05:45] Amrut: ask [05:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12615760/ [05:46] blank screen with blinking cursor [05:46] No problem while using the live cd [05:47] Amrut: sounds like a question for #ubuntu [05:47] Shows login page if I insert CD (ASUS Motherboard / P5RD1-VM ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Chipset Support CD Rev.163.05 – 64-bit computing support – M802) [05:47] Amrut: join #ubuntu [05:47] ok thanks [07:44] how can install ubuntu cope apps on 15.10? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/daily [07:58] hmmm, how do i flash a mx4? [07:58] 2015/10/01 09:57:39 Device is |k95v2| [07:58] Device k95v2 not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/meizu.en [07:58] ogra: ↑ ? [08:00] tsdgeos: from this url https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices, mx4 has code name m75/arale, not k95v2 [08:00] Stanley00: well it came from us in a box saying mx4 [08:01] i'd hope canonical to know what it's shipping me [08:02] but maybe not :/ [08:02] tsdgeos: well, google said that codename actually is a MX4, but maybe with flyme 0s [08:02] *Flyme OS* [08:02] that looks like it [08:02] it has lots of chinese in it [08:03] wonder if i need to flash android into it first [08:03] tsdgeos: in that case, it may be different than MX4 ubuntu edition, but I'm not sure about this. [08:04] it not the "Ubuntu Edition" for sure, we don't get the "official" release devices to play with [08:04] but still get to install the stuff into it [08:06] tsdgeos: I found this one, looks like a bad news for you, http://news.softpedia.com/news/buying-a-meizu-mx4-with-android-to-flash-ubuntu-is-not-a-good-idea-485495.shtml [08:09] Stanley00: that's for non canonical people, we know how to flash it [08:09] just needed to find someone to tell me how :D [08:10] tsdgeos, what buttons has one to push for ubuntu core apps ppa to has 15.10 builds? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/daily [08:10] guest56723: no idea sorry [08:11] popey: maybe? ↑ [08:11] tsdgeos, yep it's probably popey s fault [08:11] thanks tsdgeos [08:12] tsdgeos: first, you may need to unlock boot loader, repartition with mtk flash tool, and then you may need to make a channel for it, as in this mailling list? https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg13078.html [08:13] tsdgeos: disclaim, I'm just an end user. Do it at your own risk :3 [08:13] I got to go now, see you later. And good luck. [08:13] Stanley00: i got the instructions already, do not worry [08:34] uh, webbrowser-app locked my pc :/ (x11/nouveau) === locutus__ is now known as LocutusOfBorg1 === dbarth_ is now known as dbarth [09:14] Would anyone be kind enough to confirm a bug for me? [09:14] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1501668 [09:14] Ubuntu bug 1501668 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "ListItem leadingActions have odd behaviour" [Undecided,New] === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [10:21] Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy International Coffee Day! 😃 🍵 === Zic is now known as Zic_ === Zic_ is now known as Zic__ === Zic__ is now known as Zic [10:27] How do I copy an arbitrary file, requested by an engineer/triager, off the phone? I couldn’t find the answer at [10:27] I guess it’s an adb command… [10:29] mpt, cp the file to ~/Desktop (then open nautilus) [10:30] guest42315, well, sure, I could cp if I knew where the phone is on the fileystem :-) [10:31] use the usb cable, connect the phone to pc and it will auto mount [10:32] Yes it does [10:32] you can then access desktop pictures videos etc from nautilus [10:32] guest42315, right, but the file I want to copy is in /var/, which is (for good reason) not exposed in Nautilus [10:32] adb shell [10:33] cp /var/random_file ~/Desktop [10:33] done [10:33] or use pull [10:34] I thought “adb pull /var/log/system-image/client.log client.log” would help, but it just says “error: closed” [10:34] adb pull [] - copy file/dir from device [10:34] mpt, enable developer mode on the phone [10:34] remote object '/var/log/system-image/client.log' does not exist [10:34] Developer Mode is on :-) [10:35] The file does exist, because inside adb shell I can run “less” on it [10:36] try pull after connected? [10:36] “remote object '/var/log/system-image/client.log' does not exist” [10:37] try the easy way.. just cp /var/log/system-image/client.log ~/Desktop [10:37] then see in the ~/Desktop folder on the phone from nautilus [10:38] “cp: cannot create regular file ‘/home/phablet/Desktop/’: Not a directory” [10:38] o_O [10:38] It has a point … I’ll try Documents/ [10:38] try that [10:38] wey-hey! that worked. Thanks guest42315 [10:39] mpt, :D yay [10:40] Ah, I spoke too soon [10:41] Nautilus shows the file in the folder, but it can’t be read by anything. For example, gedit says “Unexpected error: libmtp error: Unknown error.”. And trying to copy it, Nautilus says “libmtp error: Could not get file from device.” [10:42] that's weird :/ [10:42] mpt, what Ubuntu version do you use? [10:42] 14.04 [10:42] the libmtp there doesn't know about your device [10:42] I just uploaded a SRU which update the list of devices [10:43] but that's not accepted/built yet [10:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmtp/+bug/1376212 [10:43] Ubuntu bug 1376212 in libmtp (Ubuntu Trusty) "BQ Aquaris E4.5 Android Phone not recognised by libmtp" [High,In progress] [10:43] ahhhhhhh [10:43] thanks seb128 :-] [10:43] mpt, you can get working versions from https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools [10:43] meanwhile [10:44] I smell a yak [10:55] Hello, this is with reference to this bug about proxy on ubuntu phone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1452291. I am suffering heavily due to this bug. There is a workaround given somewhere where I edit the environment file to get the internet working. But even that works only for apps that use the webview, so I think it's just a chromium thing that fortunately got passed on here. [10:55] Ubuntu bug 1452291 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu RTM) "Browser cannot use system proxy settings" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:59] I want to know, how deep into the ubuntu phone might I have to go to be able to fix this. Ideally, I'd like all apps to use a default proxy rather than try to connect straight to the internet, but I would be happy if I'm even able to get my app working, and can offer some snippets for any other app to start using. [11:17] mpt, hey, I commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1391077 with some questions (basically I think unity8 doesn't provide what we need to implement the design so wonder what's the best fallback option until that's done) [11:17] Ubuntu bug 1391077 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Inappropriate notification of system update" [Low,New] === dbarth__ is now known as dbarth [11:55] Hi. I've got a new mx4 and im trying to have a play with it. ive enabled writable mode. any calls to systemctl give me an error about failing to get a dbus connection. is there a special way of accessing it? [11:57] looks like it's still using service [11:58] awesome :D [12:00] robjh, it's using upstart [12:00] jgdx: good to know, thank you :) [12:01] robjh, what's the job you wanna handle? [12:01] sshd [12:02] i always forget my phone at work, if i can ssh to it, i can shut it down xD === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:03] robjh, sudo initctl list # [12:06] the ssh service is running, i dont think its enabled on boot though [12:15] hahaha its working! xD [12:17] Hi I have been fruitlessly following this guide http://a25.co/ubuntu-phone-how-to-install-android/ in an effort to put android on the BQ Aquarius E4.5 (for the time being) and keep hitting a brick wall [12:17] Would anyone here know if I can use the firmware I have downloaded for the Android version of this device using simple fastboot/adb commands [12:18] The BQ flash tool is pretty poor [12:19] ogra, ^ you know? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:22] All I know it worked when I had E5 :P [12:22] :-) === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:09] seb128, sorry i hadn't seen your branch fixing the desktop file lookup, glad to see a fix for that bug :) [13:10] seb128, i'll get your branch landed now so it's in ota7 [13:10] seb128, but... that code won't work for apps in the libertine container, so i'll figure out why my branch didn't work and get that landed post ota7 [13:11] that's why i used UAL to get the desktop file, it should work for all apps, even in the containers :) [13:11] kenvandine, sure, I've no idea how libertine and the api you used work [13:11] I just went for the easy change [13:11] understood [13:11] and that works great for today :) [13:12] :-) [13:12] btw any reason you didn't include some of my fixes in the recent update? [13:12] maybe that id doesn't include the pkg and version? [13:12] like the cmake hackery to files listed in qtcreator [13:12] i haven't landed anything in settings... [13:12] not recently [13:12] you did while I was on holidays [13:12] some weeks ago [13:12] ah [13:13] i was keeping landings down to a few branches at a time [13:13] k [13:13] sorry :) [13:13] no worry, I just noticed it was still pending [13:13] i need to do another landing [13:13] and it's a no change for runtime [13:13] so seems like easy to include [13:13] right, that's probably why i deferred it [13:14] kenvandine, and yeah, the non-click packages appid is not versioned [13:14] it's unity8-dash iirc for the dash [13:14] right... so i guess the id in this case isn't versioned [13:14] so i need to resolve that [13:14] should be an easy fix [13:15] but not important for ota7 [13:15] right [13:17] i recently discovered the ubuntu_app_launch_application_info and have found it very useful in my work on containers and content-hub :) [13:17] seb128, i have a branch that shows legacy apps in the container in the peer picker :) [13:18] kenvandine, great! [13:29] Hello, this is with reference to this bug about proxy on ubuntu phone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1452291. I am suffering heavily due to this bug. There is a workaround given somewhere where I edit the environment file to get the internet working. But even that works only for apps that use the webview, so I think it's just a chromium thing that fortunately got passed on here. [13:29] Ubuntu bug 1452291 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu RTM) "Browser cannot use system proxy settings" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:30] I want to know, how deep into the ubuntu phone might I have to go to be able to fix this. Ideally, I'd like all apps to use a default proxy rather than try to connect straight to the internet, but I would be happy if I'm even able to get my app working, and can offer some snippets for any other app to start using. === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [13:54] oSoMoN, thoughts on the bug above? why is the proxy not just used [13:56] sil2100: do we have new click framework name for what's in the overlay PPA? [13:56] mhall119: there's 15.04 and the 15.04.1 framework [13:57] pmcgowan, jnxd: as pointed out by mpt in the bug report, this is an issue in network-manager [13:57] And that's basically it [13:57] sil2100: ok, so 15.04.1 has the Ubuntu.Components 1.3? [13:57] mhall119: yeah, OTA-7 will be the first stable image to ship with this framework [13:58] oSoMoN, on desktop as well? seems odd [13:59] pmcgowan, yes, we can’t expect every single application out there to check for system settings to use the proxy, this should be transparent for apps [13:59] oSoMoN, agreed just surprised its not already that way [14:00] It’s been that way for eleven years and counting :-] [14:00] oSoMoN: Is there ANYTHING that can be done, apart from wait? It renders my phone more or less useless. [14:01] jnxd, unfortunately I’m not aware of any way to work around this issue, but network-managers devs would know [14:01] cyphermox, awe_ ^^ === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [14:02] proxy currently has nothing to do with NM [14:03] if oxide doesn't follow proxy settings, that's bug and I'd argue a pretty important one at that, too [14:03] pmcgowan, oSoMoN: at least on GNOME, almost all my apps are using the same proxy settings, which I had set in the the Network part of GNOME Settings [14:05] so every single app has to implement proxy settings? that’s insane [14:05] this should be transparent [14:05] pmcgowan: oSoMoN: on the desktop, applications are all able to seemlessly use proxy settings because they all use some library or framework which understands it, such as libsoup. [14:05] cyphermox: from what I gather of oxide, it is the thing that allows chromium to work. All apps using webview are working. [14:05] jnxd: so apps work but not the browser? [14:06] even browser works, but the proxy settings had to be done through terminal in /etc/environment [14:06] ah [14:06] however, apps like telegram, or the scopes don't work [14:06] that certainly clarifies it [14:06] jnxd, ah, thanks, I hadn’t understood that [14:07] I'm not surprised gsettings won't help you here [14:07] the youtube scope is peculiar: it seemingly can gather metadata about videos, but cannot play them [14:08] so the bug probably should be updated to have a task for each bit that doesn't work [14:08] yes, definitely [14:08] and we'd need a different wishlist bug for "implement proxy controls in system settings" [14:08] There pretty surely needs to be a GUI, preferably one that can change per connection [14:10] jnxd: one day you'll have the per-connection part in NM, but there isn't proxy integration yet, not even on desktop [14:10] cyphermox: I realize that [14:10] maybe it's doable on the phone some other way, but it probably should go through NM, it would be the logical way to do it [14:11] cyphermox: I'm sorry I'm illiterate in these regards :/ [14:11] no worries [14:12] jnxd: the proxy situation is complicated === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:12] nobody had the time to spend on properly fixing that in NM -- it's on the todo list upstream though [14:13] cyphermox: But it's important, at least as far as my college experience goes. [14:13] oh, you have that issue in college? [14:13] that's unexpected, it usually is far more common in large enterprises [14:14] cyphermox: yes. both my masters and bachelors institutes use proxy settings [14:14] ah [15:16] Hey all! I have a quick question about scope development. [15:17] bretth, shoot! [15:17] Is it possible to set up some cards or categories to not go to the preview screen when clicked? [15:18] bretth, no, only the apps scope is allowed to do this AFAIK [15:19] Saviq ^ [15:20] bretth, correct, the apps scope is an unfortunate exception, otherwise users would not know if tapping on a result would get them more info or take them somewhere else completely [15:22] That makes sense. Then, is there a way to set up multiple preview layouts and have different categories go to different layouts? [15:24] bretth: you can add extra metadata to the result, and in your preview function just change what widgets you show based on that [15:25] That works. Thanks for the help! === LjL is now known as Lucco === Lucco is now known as LjL [15:56] Would anyone be kind enough to check and/or confirm a UI bug for me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1501668 [15:56] Ubuntu bug 1501668 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "ListItem leadingActions have odd behaviour" [Undecided,New] [16:04] mcphail, is that the same as bug 1486008 ? [16:04] bug 1486008 in Ubuntu UX "[sdk] leading actions width is too small making it very difficult to press" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1486008 [16:04] mcphail, not seeing it here the item always deletes [16:04] ahayzen: don't _think_ so. Easily big enough to press [16:05] pmcgowan: that is interesting. Are you on dev channel? [16:05] mcphail, the bug is that the *mousearea* is too small .. visually yes its too small but it infact dismisses rather than selecting [16:05] mcphail, and yeah its not scheduled to land until OTA7, we're blocking on music and weather because of it :-/ [16:06] ahayzen: maybe that is it, then [16:07] ahayzen: definiy seems to follow the behaviour in my bug report though. Clickiness depends on how far the item is dragged [16:07] mcphail, or are you saying that if you don't drag it far enough you don't even get a chance to click ? [16:08] ahayzen: you get a chance to click, but the icon just disappears after the click. The "delete" action doesn't happen [16:08] ah yeah that sounds like the same thing, i think [16:09] ahayzen: nice to see it might be fixed already, then. Cheers! [16:09] hopefully :-) === LjL is now known as cntrational [16:35] ayy [16:36] Damn, another day without ubuntu phone, tomorrow it is ^^ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:16] can the released version of mir display x-windows? [17:18] and on an unrelated note; has super tux been ported yet? [17:19] yes [17:19] there is some work on xMir [17:27] i did a google for an x11 hello world program and found this: http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~mcbryan/5229.03/mail/35.htm I've got it to compile but so far i've had no luck running it :p [17:28] you wont, the phone doesn't have X11 on it === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [17:30] thats why i asked if the released version of mir can display x-windows [17:35] no version of mir can. xmir can translate X calls to be displayed on mir [17:36] the xmir package is built from the xorg-server source package, not from mir source :) [17:37] oooh okay [17:37] and xmir is not part of the phone images yet. [17:43] trying to break the device like this is a lot of fun :p [17:43] It is! [17:43] until it breaks :) [17:43] it'll either succeed, or i'll accidentally end up running xfce [17:45] if it breaks, then i get to learn all about fixing it xD [17:53] seb128, i just noticed that falldown now has a setting for tilt sensitivity, you can adjust it now! [17:54] im poking unity with a pointy kill command to see what happens. it just restarts [17:57] is there something i can read about writing a scope? [18:03] i found this https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/scopes/cpp/current/ [18:03] robjh: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/tutorials/ [18:03] ahh, thank you :) [18:05] kenvandine, nice! [18:11] seb128, now maybe i can beat your highscore :) [18:13] I'm hav trouble with Telepathy. I've uninstalled, but on every update its updates are included (which obviously reinstalls it again). [18:13] Has somebody seen that before? [18:16] Robert_Zenz, updates are image based and do not honor apt changes [18:17] pmcgowan, so the apps that came bundled with the phone will always be updated even if I remove them? [18:19] awe_, is there a planned silo for that PropertiesChanged bug? [18:19] (for ota7?) === pat_ is now known as Guest97502 [18:23] mterry, just starting on it now. Silo for vivid expected hopefully tomorrow... [18:24] awe_, sweet. If you need any help (like testing or whatever) let me know [18:24] thanks, will do === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === Guest97502 is now known as pmcgowan [19:08] qmuxd cannot connect to /dev/smdcntl0. (Connection timed out) anyone have an idea why? [19:10] awe_: I am pretty stuck with this issue... ^ [19:12] Here is strace of qmuxd https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/57wdijyv/ [19:13] Can I already import contacts from .vcf? :P [19:14] *this is the correct paste for qmuxd, the other one was rmt_storage... https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jgxCAVLL/ [19:19] hey mariogrip [19:19] hay [19:19] anyone with a nexus 10 ? [19:20] i doubt anyone has booted a nexus 10 recently [19:20] mariogrip: how's the oneplus one? [19:20] it's not top of the list [19:20] damn [19:20] mariogrip: I saw ~200 people in a pub last night queueing for a OnePlus 2 invite [19:20] I see there is a devel and devel-proposed channel [19:20] it was ridiculous [19:20] in a hipster part of london [19:21] * ahoneybun notes popey is a hipster [19:21] maybe I'm just jealous because we don't get demand like that ;) [19:21] haha [19:21] I am _so_ not a hipster :) [19:21] OnePlus Two is stupid [19:21] OnePlus One is better [19:21] wuut, the Opt is awesome :D [19:21] one word [19:21] NFC [19:22] hahah, when was last time u use nfc? [19:22] everyday [19:22] well, then [19:22] I have NFC stickers around the house and in my car [19:22] and Android Pay [19:23] might be the reason I can't use Ubuntu [19:23] well, for me i never use nfc so the two is perfect [19:23] Touch anyway [19:23] usb c <3 [19:23] mariogrip, it looks like the open to the device succeeds; I only see errors for hsictl0 [19:24]