[03:28] bye all [04:36] hello [04:54] good morning [05:42] Good morning [05:44] hey pitti , how are you? [05:44] didrocks: j'ai me levé trop tôt, mais bien ! et toi ? [05:47] pitti: pareil, Julie prenait le train, donc levé tôt :p [05:47] mais ça va [05:48] didrocks: je vais rentrer cet après-matin, Netti et moi nous recontrer à Munich [05:49] pitti: tu dois être content ! :) [05:49] pitti: my mission today, is to work on getting coverage a little bit upper again: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/udtc-trusty-tests-collect/1924/label=ps-trusty-desktop-amd64-1/artifact/html-coverage/index.html [05:52] didrocks: wow, that already looks amazing! [05:52] pitti: I'm sure I can push it up :) [05:52] didrocks: I found that anything > 90% quickly falls into the "diminishing returns" category as these are usually weird error handling paths which are ridiculously hard to simulate [05:53] pitti: yeah, I'm just doing the "easy ones", some leftover error conditions that are easy to get in unit tests [05:53] didrocks: oh, you have declarative exclusions? [05:53] didrocks: I didn't see those with python-coverage [05:55] pitti: yeah, I needed those for the dpkg (from python-apt) subprocess [05:55] can't trace those :) [05:57] pitti: http://coverage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/excluding.html [05:57] didrocks: I mean, how do you declare that in python? to ignore a block for coverage I mean [05:57] didrocks: ah, merci ! [05:57] # pragma: no cover [05:57] nice! [05:57] yep :) [05:57] then, you can add other comments [05:58] like # pragram: no cover (in a fork) [05:58] to explain a little bit why you exclude those [05:59] didrocks: so I suppose that's a pragmatic (haha) way to deal with weird error conditions [06:00] pitti: nice pun! yeah, I didn't use it for that, but it's a good idea [06:00] at least to stamp "I know I want to exclude this as it's a weird error conditions" [06:00] * pitti prends le petit-déjeuner, à bientôt ! [06:01] didrocks: I found that otherwise I might be tempted to not check errors properly any more as it might ruin my coverage :) [06:01] pitti: heh, indeed! bon appétit :) [06:42] seb128: bonjour ! [06:42] seb128, Laney: voilà ! des nouvelles paquets de langue, avec evolution-3.16 :) [06:53] salut pitti, ça va ? [06:53] hey desktopers [06:59] pitti, Laney, evolution-3.16 was already in the langpacks from the 22 no? [06:59] seb128: ça va bien, merci ! [06:59] pitti, did the new update restore the missing domains? [07:00] seb128: ah, c'est vrai, j'ai "diff" seulement les paquets *-base [07:00] seb128: it has eog at least, what else was missing? [07:00] pitti, file-roller gedit [07:01] and some others [07:01] seb128: it has these too [07:02] seb128: I diffed the old vs new -base, and there were no removed files aside from evolution-3.12 [07:02] k [07:02] so unresolved mystery [07:03] I wonder if we should have an autopkgtest with a list of expected domains [07:03] for -base we could -- the deltas could contain anything from zero to the full set [07:04] but I guess that wouldn't work well because on base refresh those are removed from the other packages [07:09] Morning. [07:09] Could someone clarify a policy issue for me? [07:09] This bug has been raised against Ubuntu MATE - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/caja/+bug/1500932 [07:10] Ubuntu bug 1500932 in caja (Ubuntu) "Sync caja 1.10.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] [07:10] No, not that one., [07:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1501426 [07:10] Ubuntu bug 1501426 in ubuntu-mate "15.10 Beta 2 fails HTML5 audio test for MP3" [Undecided,Incomplete] [07:11] Which can be resolved post-install by installing restricted-extras. [07:11] Or gstreamer1.0-libav could be added to the seeds. [07:11] What is the position on including gstreamer1.0-libav by default/ [07:12] you better ask on #ubuntu-devel [07:12] Ah, OK. [07:12] there are more people there aware of code/legal issues [07:15] bonjour! [07:15] hey larsu, wie gehts? [07:15] larsu: ça va ? [07:15] seb128: a bit better than yesterday, but still stuffed. How are you? [07:15] hi pitti, wie gehts? [07:16] larsu, I'm good thanks! [07:16] c'est drôle que les personnes françaises parlent allemagne maintenant et les personnes allemagnes parlent français :) [07:18] :-) [07:19] good morning larsu! I hope you will feel better after the week-end ;) [07:20] konnichiwa [07:20] didrocks: good morning and thanks! [07:36] Trevinho, https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/compiz/compiz.matrix-additions/+merge/273072 [07:36] if you have a minute at some point:) [07:36] (no rush) [07:51] morning fellows [07:51] morning willcooke! [07:54] hey willcooke [07:54] feeling better? [07:54] not especially [07:54] should probably actually rest rather than sitting at the computer [07:55] but hey ho [07:56] :/ [07:56] hey willcooke [07:56] willcooke, better to have something to do than nothing and just focussing on the fact you feel unwell, right? [07:57] seb128, yeah, I guess. I could go a nap though [07:57] :0 [08:01] yo [08:02] happy f-r-i-d-a-y! [08:02] hey Laney! [08:02] happy friday ;-) [08:04] hey hey Laney! [08:04] \o [08:05] hey seb128 didrocks & willcooke [08:05] how's it going? [08:05] good! [08:06] good :) [08:06] happy it's friday, but at the same time still feels like I've quite some things I want to get done before w.e, going to be a busy day ;-) [08:06] nice autumn day today [08:06] here as well [08:06] it has been a quite good bugfixing week this week [08:16] woah [08:16] my desktop has booted to an emergency shell [08:16] urg [08:17] haha [08:17] I messed up my fstab yesterday [08:17] /o\ [08:18] Laney: that'll do it [08:20] seb128, didrocks, Laney - can you advise hikiko on which sort of Ubuntu membership to go for... [08:20] Contributing Developers (Ubuntu Membership), per-package uploaders, MOTU and Core Developers [08:20] would PPU be best? [08:20] willcooke, I though popey told her to go for MOTU during the meeting yesterday? [08:21] hikiko, sorry I didn't think the meeting was this week and I hadn't write on the wiki yet :/ [08:21] seb128, yes but it seems that MOTU is for packagers [08:21] yeah, but I'm not sure that's the correct option, so would like your feedback too [08:21] are collectively responsible for the maintenance of packages in the universe and multiverse components [08:21] I would say contributing developer [08:21] that's what I applied for yesterday [08:21] and got rejected :D [08:22] Ubuntu Membership [08:22] or it's different w8 [08:22] popey said something about your page behing a bit short on details [08:22] which is what I pointed out when I saw it as well... [08:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#ContribDev this one [08:22] yes I will add a list of projects in contributions [08:23] willcooke, can you talk to popey [08:23] I don't understand why they bounced her back to apply for MOTU since she doesn't do packaging [08:23] ? [08:23] contributing dev is usually for people on the motu path [08:23] I wouldn't have advised that myself [08:24] but maybe we could consider it?!?!?! [08:24] maybe popey thought I do packaging [08:24] popey, let's rap when you're fre [08:24] e [08:25] yeah, maybe he got confused because your page lacks details? [08:25] :D [08:25] I am improving the wiki [08:25] good idea ;-) [08:28] * davmor2 pictures popey and willcooke rapping something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAIOzM7SsMo [08:28] davmor2, oh no, I'm not falling for that again [08:29] willcooke: No one ever seen what I mean from the age of nnnnnnnnnnnnnn13 [09:11] willcooke: I have no idea what you mean, it's not like I know every earworm ever created or anything [09:13] davmor2, normally you Rick roll me [09:13] :D [09:13] willcooke: no that is no rick roll [09:14] davmor2, I dont believe you. [09:14] ;) [09:14] willcooke: that is the pinnacle of rap it got no better ;) [09:14] ohhhhhhhh [09:14] Wow [09:14] I remember that [09:18] why did you kick me out? freenode? :p [09:20] willcooke: I remember every piece of music I've ever heard and every tv show/film I've ever seen. It's sad really Like today I have this stuck in my head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cShYbLkhBc most of the whippersnappers here will never of heard it :) [09:20] davmor2, great tune! === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [09:25] willcooke: if you want to follow along with the mind melt http://open.spotify.com/user/1142386698/playlist/2nlSxBLEbfKpvDqSDG8hP8 a list of the songs that randomly pop into my head first thing :) Makes for a great day of music :D [09:25] davmor2, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrPWkIRWY9U [09:26] midnight express great film [09:29] willcooke: I see your chase and I raise you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcawnRIyeok [09:30] davmor2, \o/ [09:30] darkxst, unsure if you saw my comment the other day, but the top e.u.c wily issue is an xorg sigabrt which looks like a gdm issue [09:31] just installed gdm on my test laptop and it doesn't work, I get an empty vt and no graphical dm or session [09:31] unsure if that 's the same issue [09:31] if I systemctl restart gdm I get an crash file then [09:31] you might want to investigate it, could be an important issue for Ubuntu GNOME [09:34] * Sweet5hark forgot his "bonjour". [09:34] * Sweet5hark time travels two hours back and says "moin". [09:44] hey Sweet5hark, looks like you found a way to make doko happy and get libreoffice in? ;-) [09:44] seb128: oh, forgot to send you the bustle log from my session, I'm unsure how you are supposed to read it: http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/tmp/sessionlog [09:45] didrocks, "bustle sessionlog" shows an UI [09:45] it basically displays the dbus exchanges [09:46] seb128: yeah. well, one thing wasnt fixed in this upload (fxed in git now though, should we do yet another upload: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git/commit/?h=ubuntu-wily-5.0) ... [09:48] Sweet5hark, k [09:48] seb128: the /org/gnome/Shell activity-related sounds quite opaque… [09:48] I don't even see the accelerator key exchanges [09:48] didrocks, I don't see anything having to do with the Grabber interface there though ... [09:49] yeah [09:49] apart from the AcceleratorActivated [09:49] and a bunch of property GetAll() probs… [09:50] unsure, maybe larsu has a better idea about that when he's back [09:51] yeah [09:51] going to try to do a bustle log of my session to compare after lunch [09:51] but first need to go for some errands [09:51] bbiab [09:52] see you! [09:52] seb128: good idea [09:52] :-) === Mirv_ is now known as Mirv [10:02] new fun stuff ... http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151001-wily.html [10:03] it's great to have you in here doko! [10:05] doko: speaking of fun stuff, mind looking at bug #1500768? [10:05] bug 1500768 in python3.4 (Ubuntu) "python3.4.3 SRU break requests" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500768 [10:05] (you did the SRU update it seems) [10:08] yep, finally ... looking [10:08] thx! === tjaalton_ is now known as tjaalton [10:39] davmor2, do you have a 3g usb dongle? I'm having problems with usb_modeswitch on 15.10 that I'm not seeing on 14.04 [10:41] give me a few I'll have a look === hikiko-lpt is now known as hikiko|ln [10:51] willcooke: hmmmm I have a blue flashy light on the system but I'm not getting an actual connection show up in the indicator :( [10:52] on the dongle even [10:52] davmor2, does syslog show messages about usb_modeswitch crashing? [10:55] willcooke: yes indeedy [10:55] oh dear [10:57] Could be related to: [10:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-modeswitch/+bug/1498805 [10:57] Ubuntu bug 1498805 in usb-modeswitch (Ubuntu Wily) "Please merge usb-modeswitch 2.2.5+repack0-1 from Debian unstable/testing - current 2.2.3 version in Wily has regressions with lots of Huawei modems" [High,Triaged] [10:58] willcooke: that would match my model [10:58] Mine is a ZTE, but sounds like a general problem [10:59] Looks like everything is lined up to pull the new version in but just needs doing [11:00] seb128, is this something you could put on your long list? ^^ [11:00] willcooke: is there a package for 2.2.3 somewhere I can install and see if it works then? [11:02] davmor2, dunno, looking... [11:04] willcooke: I'm trying the one from deb sid [11:04] thanks davmor2 [11:08] willcooke: seb128: so with deb sid's 2.2.5+repack0-1_amd64.deb I have a working connection youtube video is playing so connection is good and constant [11:08] great, thanks davmor2 [11:08] davmor2, can you point me at the deb and I'll see if it helps my ZTE modem too [11:09] willcooke: https://packages.debian.org/sid/comm/usb-modeswitch [11:16] time to run! bbiab [11:17] cya didrocks [11:22] davmor2, yeah - fixed here too [11:22] \o/ [11:25] Now if only I can convince this PPP connection to start, I'll be happy. But I think that's related to this free sim I got and not an Ubuntu issue [11:27] didrocks: ah cool thanks! [11:27] * larsu installs bustle [11:34] Sweet5hark, http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libr/libreoffice/wily/amd64/ === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [11:35] Trevinho: as of recently, sometimes unity stops accepting mouse input (keyboard works) [11:36] Trevinho: restarting unity makes this work again, but it then forgets about all open windows [11:36] Trevinho: even though they are still running... [11:36] Trevinho: is this a known bug? [11:39] willcooke, I can try to have a look but that's rather one for cyphermox [11:39] I already pinged him about that a week ago [11:40] doko: thanks, looking [11:44] seb128, oki, thanks. If it helps, davmor2 and I can confirm it does fix the problem. <-- cyphermox: when you get a chance, could you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-modeswitch/+bug/1498805 [11:44] Ubuntu bug 1498805 in usb-modeswitch (Ubuntu Wily) "Please merge usb-modeswitch 2.2.5+repack0-1 from Debian unstable/testing - current 2.2.3 version in Wily has regressions with lots of Huawei modems" [High,Triaged] [11:45] willcooke, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/09/23/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t15:10 [11:45] good morning :D [11:45] willcooke, that was the previous week discussion [11:45] andyrock, hey [11:48] thanks seb128. I'll comment on the bug [11:49] willcooke, thanks [12:02] Good morning. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:10] larsu, back from lunch? how busy are you this afternoon? want to look at an easy ido-fail-to-build (some gtk deprecations and a void function returning a value) [12:10] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/219493349/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-i386.ido_13.10.0%2B15.10.20150728-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz [12:10] seb128: sure, I'll have a look [12:10] danke [12:11] didrocks: GrabAccelerators() is called excalty once, and nothing else [12:11] didrocks: looks correct to me... [12:11] seb128: this is just -Werror shit, no? [12:11] larsu, yeah, we could drop the Werror, the return in void might be worth fixing though? [12:12] seb128: sure. Just asking if there's more to it :) [12:12] or maybe don't drop Werror but don't error out on deprecations [12:12] -Werror is stupd [12:12] hm, I'm not seeing this locally [12:13] larsu, we can add -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations to the flags [12:13] like https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/indicator-application/dont-werror-on-deprecations/+merge/201988 [12:13] * pitti -> cd ~, have a nice weekend everyone! [12:14] pitti: enjoy! [12:14] seb128: ya, *at least* that [12:15] pitti, have a nice w.e! [12:15] larsu, seb128: thanks, and you! [12:15] larsu, unsure what's the difference between builders and your build :/ [12:16] seb128: ah it already has -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations [12:16] seb128: me neither :/ [12:16] * larsu cleans his build tree [12:16] I guess it errors out on the return then? [12:19] it doesn't at all for me [12:19] oh! [12:19] there was this gcc bug......... [12:19] * larsu tries to find it [12:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.8/+bug/1234218 [12:20] Ubuntu bug 1234218 in gcc-4.8 (Ubuntu) "4.8 doesn't throw -Wreturn-type anymore for wrong returns in macros" [Undecided,New] [12:20] so I'm clearly hitting this locally [12:20] (man, I filed that 2 years ago :( ) [12:23] ah [12:23] I wonder why the builder is getting the warning now, though [12:24] * larsu upgrades gcc [12:25] larsu, what gcc version do you have? [12:25] 5.2.1-3ubuntu1 [12:26] upgrading to 9ubuntu1 now [12:26] same as the builder [12:26] k, let's see [12:26] maybe that got fixed in that update ;-) [12:26] heh, let's hope [12:27] pi came [12:27] and blast, it needs microsd and I don't have one of those [12:27] nope :/ [12:27] Laney, :-( [12:27] Laney: ugh [12:27] shop time! [12:27] need a way of putting bits onto it too [12:27] ... [12:28] Laney: the pi? [12:28] the micro sd [12:28] * Sweet5hark sees and hour long discussion of the usage of /bin/sh /bin/bash plus other shells like dash in various parts of the build system on #libreoffice-dev. those seem to come back every 6 months because of $something ... [12:28] Laney: use the pi?! [12:28] ? [12:28] eat it! [12:28] seb128: still not seeing the warning :'( [12:28] Laney: I was joking, sorry [12:28] seb128: for some reason unity now fails to build (well to start tests, actually) on ppc64el, due to the "LLVM ERROR: Do not know how to split the result of this operator!" error. [12:28] I guess it's somewhat related to mesa, see https://launchpadlibrarian.net/219585615/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-ppc64el.unity_7.3.2%2B15.10.20151002.1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz [12:29] haha [12:29] Trevinho, :-( [12:29] I thought you were telling me to use it to write to the SD somehow [12:29] Trevinho: did you see my ping? [12:29] larsu, do you see the code error pointed by the log? [12:29] Laney: it was funny in my head [12:29] larsu: nope :o [12:29] :) [12:29] Trevinho: please use an irc client that can notify you of pings :P [12:30] Trevinho: do you see it in the scrollback or shall I paste? [12:30] ideally as a notification to your phone [12:30] which is REALLY LOUD [12:30] that's a bit ... much [12:30] larsu: it does, but I didn't scroll yet :P [12:30] scroll more ;) [12:31] larsu: however, the mouse issue is in unity stuff, like the dash or where? [12:31] Trevinho: I think it's totally fine if you're not there, but please go offline then (I'll then just ping when you come on) [12:31] Trevinho: no, everywhere [12:32] mh, I've not noticed that, but we didn't change anything that might be global. I did change something at nux level, but it would affect only unity widgets [12:32] seb128: maybe because i386? But that would be very weird... I'll upload a branch in any case [12:32] althought it's just about sending mouse_released signals and such, so not anything should be an issue [12:32] "should" [12:32] larsu, yeah, going to try in a bit on my i386 laptop [12:33] Trevinho: how can I debug this next time it happens? [12:33] seb128: thanks [12:33] seb128: what could I do on that ppc46el failure? It seems that's something we already experienced... (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-3.5/+bug/1360241) [12:33] Ubuntu bug 1360241 in llvm-toolchain-3.5 (Ubuntu) "[Regression] "LLVM ERROR: Do not know how to split the result of this operator!" in executing Ubuntu UI Toolkit tests on x86" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:34] andyrock was saying we had something similar when building in qemu with lower specs (i.e. when not using pentium4 on x86) [12:34] not building [12:34] when did that start? [12:34] just running [12:34] tjaalton, ^ regression from your recent mesa update? [12:34] * rules, control: Enable llvmpipe on ppc64el. (LP: #1489483) [12:34] Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1489483 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1489483). The error has been logged [12:35] seb128: basically last week it was building fine [12:35] Trevinho, yeah, there was that update yesterday ^ [12:35] which smells like it [12:35] let's wait for tjaalton to comment [12:35] seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ido/buildfix/+merge/273222 [12:35] larsu, danke! [12:35] that's why we ping seb128 [12:35] seb128: ah, something like that... thanks [12:35] :D [12:35] seb128: I coldn't find any others from a quick look - but I don't get the warnings so who knows :/ [12:36] larsu, yeah, I'm going to try to reproduce and test the fix [12:36] thanks [12:36] thanks [12:36] this is weird [12:37] define: this [12:37] I get that failure when building ido in sbuild [12:37] but not with bzr bd [12:37] Laney: I tried with maintainer mode as well, to no avail [12:37] well [12:37] * larsu wonders if "to no avail" is correctly used here [12:38] I recommend sbuild anyway [12:38] yes [12:38] I know you do, but this should happen when building "normally" as well [12:39] seb128: what bug? builds fine on a ppa [12:39] good old "should" [12:39] love it [12:39] oh unity fails [12:39] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBlD2N_AwgI [12:40] fix unity?-) [12:40] what are you doing making changes like that after feature freeze with no exception? [12:40] gotta get that^^ into your heads again before the sprint [12:40] doko: seems to have been an intermittent failure? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libr/libreoffice/wily/amd64/ <- last run passed ... [12:40] larsu: YES [12:40] mesa has MRE, that change request came from ibm [12:41] * larsu is out for a quick errand [12:41] tjaalton: mh, might be... But I've no clue what's wrong :) [12:41] then I'll drop it and ask ibm to fix [12:41] I mean it's only on ppc64el [12:41] which I don't have (I guess I've to setup a qemu to investigate?) [12:41] before revisiting [12:42] that is for SRUs and is not for changing/enabling features [12:42] anyway, good, thanks [12:42] * Laney is off SD card shopping [12:43] back soon [12:47] Laney, good luck [12:47] tjaalton, thanks [12:48] tjaalton: once you've pushed the revert of that change, can you please ping me? So I can trigger a rebuild on train... [12:49] ok [12:51] ta [12:56] larsu: so, unsure why I have that double grab then… [12:56] larsu, didrocks, btw https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-008/+packages has a build of the unity update from Trevinho with the keygrab changes, if you want to test if it fixes the issue [12:57] larsu: oh sorry, I did reboot in between, so that's a "normal" login [12:57] so yeah, making sense === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:57] let's see next time I'll have the same issue [12:57] seb128: well, I keep it broken for now to get again the right logs ^ (probably Monday for logout/login several times) [12:58] didrocks, right, so don't upgrade from wily either on monday ;-) [12:58] ok ;) [12:58] noted down === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle [13:02] willcooke also I guess ^^ [13:05] May I have a sponsor for Wily chromium-browser upload from https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage ? Copy is fine. [13:06] qengho, I can do that [13:07] seb128: merci. [13:07] de rien! [13:09] thanks Trevinho [13:10] seb128, fyi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1501281 [13:10] Ubuntu bug 1501281 in linux (Ubuntu) "Frequent freezes on 15.04 with kernel 3.19.0-29+" [High,Confirmed] [13:10] seb128, pmcgowan is having a lot of lock-ups so is trying this new kernel. Just something to be aware of [13:11] oh, Laney fixed activity-log-manager ... if you mp a change, can you also fix the other warning from the build log "if(ev != null);", the ";" shouldn't be there and make the if section being unused [13:11] willcooke, ok, did you talk to the kernel team about it? [13:12] seb128, not yet, gonna see if it helps Pat and then I will, might be a red herring [13:17] Trevinho: accepted [13:17] tjaalton: cool [13:19] tjaalton: you said that IBM will check what's wrong in our stack? [13:20] tjaalton: however, the crash happens on tests loading so, I guess it's on libgl loading, not while unity code is running yet [13:20] Trevinho: i've let them know that it won't be added back before unity builds with it [13:20] tjaalton, I don't think it's unity specific [13:20]