=== Guest68817 is now known as anthonyjf [02:23] oops [02:23] @pilot out === udevbot_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: feature freeze, user interface freeze, final beta freeze | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of precise-vivid | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: [02:35] Could someone with upload rights take a look at bug #1473533 for me? [02:35] bug 1473533 in python-tz (Ubuntu Vivid) "CountryNameDict function trying to parse UTF-8 iso3166.tab as US-ASCII" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1473533 [02:39] rcj: I think the patches should have dep-3 tags added to keep track of where the patch came from, etc. http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ [02:42] sarnold, thank you. I will fix that up. [02:56] sarnold, I have updated the patches with dep-3 tags and reattached to bug #1473533. [02:56] bug 1473533 in python-tz (Ubuntu Vivid) "CountryNameDict function trying to parse UTF-8 iso3166.tab as US-ASCII" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1473533 [02:58] rcj: very nice :) thanks [02:58] sarnold, thank you for taking time to review them [05:42] Good morning [07:11] cjwatson: since consolekit has been dead for years and hasn't been a thing on Ubuntu since saucy, could we drop that from ssh? it would finally kick out consolekit from main [07:11] cjwatson: I'm happy to file a bug about it for tracking etc. [07:11] cjwatson: for Debian I figure it could enable consolekit support only on !linux? [07:11] (I guess it might still be used on freebsd/hurd) [07:12] The following bug has been raised against Ubuntu MATE - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1501426 [07:12] Launchpad bug 1501426 in ubuntu-mate "15.10 Beta 2 fails HTML5 audio test for MP3" [Undecided,Incomplete] [07:13] Which can be resolved post-install by installing restricted-extras. [07:13] Or gstreamer1.0-libav could be added to the seeds. [07:13] Riddell: is kshutdown still a thing? if so, could it drop its consolekit dep and use logind only? [07:14] I'm seeking policy clarification on whether gstreamer1.0-libav can be provided by default? [07:22] pitti: kshutdown can die quite happily [07:22] Riddell: no reverse deps either; okay, good to remove then? [07:22] pitti: go ahead [07:22] Riddell: yay cleanup Friday :) [07:32] good morning [07:34] dholbach, Can you see my question from 08:12:51 in your backlog regarding gstreamer1.0-libav? [07:36] no [07:37] I just came online a few minutes ago [07:38] so........ how can I help? [07:38] it's also not on http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/10/02/%23ubuntu-devel.html [07:39] dholbach: Given that's UTC, it could be in /10/01 [07:39] no, it's not [07:44] The following bug has been raised against Ubuntu MATE - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1501426 [07:44] Launchpad bug 1501426 in ubuntu-mate "15.10 Beta 2 fails HTML5 audio test for MP3" [Undecided,Incomplete] [07:44] Which can be resolved post-install by installing restricted-extras. [07:44] Or gstreamer1.0-libav could be added to the seeds. [07:44] I'm seeking policy clarification on whether gstreamer1.0-libav can be provided by default? [07:44] dholbach, ^^^^ [07:46] I don't think it can, but maybe seb128 knows which codecs we can ship be default [07:46] I've no clue about legal and codecs sorry [07:47] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libavcodec#Legal_aspects [07:47] suggests it's not a safe one [07:48] I think it's similar to the ffmpeg situation and can't be shipped [07:48] thanks for finding that link, seb128 [07:48] that looks like explanation enough [07:49] on the mp3 topic, ubuntu-restricted-extras is installed by ubiquity if you check the appropriate box and should install what is needed [08:03] seb128, dholbach Thanks. [08:03] yw! [08:03] That's all I needed. [08:04] I'll updated the ticket. Ubuntu MATE Welcome has the post-install option for install the required stuff. [08:51] cjwatson: I created bug 1502045 for tracking the last 4 packages (I removed some obsolete ones and fixed polkit-qt*) [08:51] bug 1502045 in tcosmonitor (Ubuntu) "Move from consolekit to logind" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502045 [08:53] Hi, I'm trying ubuntu-wily-beta2 and there's a regression, in /etc/default/console-setup after installation there's CHARMAP="ISO-8859-15" instead of the goold old UTF-8, is that deliberate or should I be digging into what's causing it + file a bug about it? [08:53] That breaks all non-ascii input/output in VTs... [08:59] Ah I had already troubleshooted that and filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/1484101 [08:59] Launchpad bug 1484101 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Broken CHARMAP with LANG=C on postinst, affects all installations after 14.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] [08:59] The problem is that it's not fixed yet... :-/ [09:01] Logs from the previous chat here about it: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/08/12/%23ubuntu-devel.html at 10:42 [09:05] Could I maybe tag it with `iso-testing` to increase its significance? It should only take 1-2 lines to solve it .... [09:07] can anyone upload https://code.launchpad.net/~nhaines/ubuntu-wallpapers/fix-photo-filename/+merge/273192? [09:14] pitti: I'd been thinking about doing that, but I hadn't worked out whether there were any obscure desktop flavours or architectures that needed it - do you think you could investigate that? I'd ideally much prefer to drop the patch entirely if possible [09:14] anyone knows howto list 'latest' packages through apt-cache search? [09:14] pitti, morning - we've got to dbus type errors with ceilometer in proposed during autopkgtesting [09:14] "adt-run [04:47:20]: test test-services: [----------------------- [09:14] Failed to get D-Bus connection: No such file or directory [09:14] ERROR: ceilometer-agent-central IS NOT RUNNING" [09:15] ppc64el and armhf are impacted - any ideas? === Spads_ is now known as Spads === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [09:40] ogra_: the problem is in the 4th line of BuildLiveCD, LANG=C, it should be at least LANG=C.UTF-8 [09:40] ogra_: could you commit that before the final iso spins are made? [09:41] If you grep for LANG inside the sources, you'll see C, C.UTF-8, and en_US.UTF-8. [09:42] The two occurences of LANG=C could be replaced with one of the other 2, for consistency, and this will enable us to write things at our terminals again... [09:50] alkisg: BuildLiveCD is dead [09:50] why are you looking at it? [09:51] cjwatson: please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/1484101 [09:51] Launchpad bug 1484101 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Broken CHARMAP with LANG=C on postinst, affects all installations after 14.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:51] yes I know [09:51] but it's still dead [09:51] We can't type UTF-8 characters after 14.10 anymore [09:51] ogra_ told me that that what the live CD were using [09:51] ogra_ is wrong [09:51] OK [09:51] What is used now? [09:51] it uses livecd-rootfs, yes, but not the BuildLiveCD script [09:52] launchpad-buildd does that part of things now [09:52] cjwatson: how should I help with the issue now? [09:53] it would probably be easiest to just change live-build/auto/build in livecd-rootfs [09:53] It's just a matter of notifying the correct maintainer, it shouldn't need more than a couple of lines to be fixed... [09:53] I don't think it's necessary to modify launchpad-buildd here, which has a substantially longer rollout procedure anyway [09:53] and please don't use en_US.UTF-8, C.UTF-8 would be the right thing [09:54] That remark is for the launchpad-buildd developers, not for me, right? [09:54] I am a launchpad-buildd developer [09:54] I don't understand what I'm supposed to do. I see why the issue happens, I'm not using en_US.UTF-8 anywhere... [09:55] I'm referring to your bug comment saying "please use LANG=en_US.UTF-8" [09:55] " I think this should be fixed in console-setup, but it's possible that the live CD code may want to use LANG=C.UTF-8 in any case." [09:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/1484101/comments/1 [09:55] Launchpad bug 1484101 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Broken CHARMAP with LANG=C on postinst, affects all installations after 14.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:56] I'm proposing C.UTF-8 twice there [09:56] right, but you also proposed en_US.UTF-8 :-) [09:56] Anyway, can I do something more to help in getting this fixed? [09:56] and I'm saying let's not do that bit of it because it's wrong [09:56] Only because it was already in the sources [09:56] And inside a parenthesis [09:56] (or en_US.UTF-8 or whatever) [09:57] Yeah I think that's for some Android-specific reason, possibly [09:57] Or maybe it's just obsolete, anyway, shouldn't be perpetuated [09:57] OK, let's not do that bit, np there, I'm certainly not endorsing it, [09:57] is there anything that I could do to help with solving that issue? [09:57] I'm just thinking === Mirv_ is now known as Mirv [09:59] cjwatson: yes, can do: Tasks: of consolekit is scary really, I'll write to the leads [10:00] * alkisg goes on to file yet another issue for a sysvinit compat issue in systemd in 15.10... I'll be around for feedback if I'm needed though... :) [10:01] sigh, quality commit message [10:01] this console-setup behaviour was introduced in a commit saying only "several fixes for FreeBSD" [10:01] jamespage: the test doesn't run as root, so the d-bus error is likely from systemctl (the test doesn't depend on dbus) [10:01] pitti, urgh [10:02] (systemctl as root works without dbus, but not as user) [10:02] new fun stuff ... http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151001-wily.html [10:06] alkisg: I think I would rather just fix the console-setup side of things for now, unless you object. It feels quite late to be changing this in livecd-rootfs for 15.10. [10:06] alkisg: whereas the console-setup change is simple and targeted [10:06] (and I'm doing it now) [10:06] cjwatson: no I don't mind at all, I haven't noticed any other related issues [10:07] good, will do that then [10:08] Thank you :) [10:09] jamespage: or we just add dbus to the LXC base images, as it's such a fundamental thing anyway [10:09] pitti, ah - so this is lxc vs kvm testing differently then? [10:10] jamespage: yes, the cloud images have dbus installed [10:10] * pitti runs "adt-run ceilometer --- lxc -s adt-wily" locally to verify === tjaalton_ is now known as tjaalton [10:19] jamespage: ah - this test is new in -proposed, so this needs -proposed enabled [10:19] pitti, indeed it does [10:20] pitti, hey, is there no way to pass options to schroot when doing adt-run? [10:20] Saviq: no, not at the moment [10:20] Saviq: people asked for passing options to qemu, so I added that, but so far nobody asked for schroot options [10:21] (and most often you can do that more generically with --setup-commands) [10:21] might just do that then [10:21] need to add a ppa [10:21] and just got a nice schroot setup script doing that for me [10:22] jamespage: confirmed, adding dbus makes the test succeed [10:22] jamespage: (or running the test as root) [10:22] seb128, Laney: is there a gnome freeze exception, i.e. to sync gucharmap to fix the fbfs? [10:23] same for libsoup [10:24] no [10:24] cherry-pick them [10:26] pitti, ficing up now [10:27] jamespage: oh [10:27] jamespage: I just committed an adt-build-lxc fix to install dbus [10:27] jamespage: it's a rather basic functionality of the OS these days [10:27] pitti, agreed - I'll not fix any tests then... [10:27] jamespage: and I was about to rebuild the production containers and restart the tests [10:27] pitti, awesome - thankyou [10:27] * jamespage stands down [10:28] well goes back to looking at doko's comments on ryu MIR [10:29] doko: I'll fix these cases [10:37] jamespage: done, tests restarted, lunch o'clock kthxbye :) [10:37] pitti, ta === hikiko-lpt is now known as hikiko|ln [11:08] tvoss, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libfriends/+bug/1502094 anyone particular how can organize this? [11:08] Launchpad bug 1502094 in unity-scope-home (Ubuntu) "libgee-0.8-dev should be used, libgee-dev will be removed from the archive" [Undecided,New] [11:08] doko, hmmm, kenvandine might be able to help [11:10] kenvandine, ^^^ === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [11:30] jamespage: there we go, all green [11:30] pitti, \o/ === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [11:41] pitti: do you have an example of a package with good autopkgtest tests ? [11:41] off the top of your head [11:42] caribou: we have about 3.000 tests -- any particular area? [11:47] pitti: it's for sosreport, I'm looking for ideas as it only collects data & create a tarball [11:50] doko, is bug #1502094 something you want to see done for wily? [11:50] bug 1502094 in unity-scope-home (Ubuntu) "libgee-0.8-dev should be used, libgee-dev will be removed from the archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502094 === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:51] caribou: so I guess your test should call it and then make some assertions about what you would expect in the report (existance of files/keys, particular values) [11:51] pitti: yeah, that's what I had in mind [11:51] ok, thanks! [11:53] seb128, I saw that libgee ftbfs, that's the reason I noticed [11:53] didn't check if it would be just a rebuild [11:54] k, I'm unsure, going to have a look [12:07] doko, Laney, I think it's fair to sync the new gucharmap, the only commits between the versions are unicode 8 support or translations updates (+1 build fix with old gtk) [12:11] seb128: yes, I already did it, I said I was fixing them :) [12:13] Laney, them = ? [12:13] the ones he pinged about [12:14] gucharmap and libsoup? [12:14] yes [12:15] Laney, I've pinged larsu about ido and I'm handled dirspec and indicators and looking at libgee [12:15] doko, ^ [12:15] just saying so we don't dup work [12:15] handling* [12:15] I fixed json-glib upstream and in debian, will sync later [12:15] great [12:22] doko, can you retry xserver-xorg-video-ati|cirrus|mach64|mga on i386, they hit "Temporary failure resolving 'ftpmaster.internal'" issues [12:22] ok [12:22] where can i find a list of recent added packages on ubuntu repos [12:23] doko, xserver-xorg-video-dummy as well [12:23] doko, danke [12:23] http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/newpkg?mode=byage [12:23] this is the only list i find, but how can a user see more? [12:24] lotuspsychje, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/wily-changes has all uploads, but that's updates as well, not only new packages [12:25] but it could be useful still [12:25] seb128: i have to subscribe for this? [12:25] there are online archives [12:26] ah [12:26] seb128: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/wily-changes/ this right? [12:27] lotuspsychje, correct [12:27] seb128: nice1 mate thank you! [12:28] yw! [12:29] seb128: and this1 for trusty right: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/trusty-changes/ [12:29] correct [12:29] doko, any chance you could triage/forward upstream https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.8/+bug/1234218 [12:29] Launchpad bug 1234218 in gcc-4.8 (Ubuntu) "4.8 doesn't throw -Wreturn-type anymore for wrong returns in macros" [Undecided,New] [12:30] great great! [12:30] doko, and are the test build using a different gcc/toolchain than the archive? because local ido build doesn't hit the test build failure, likely because of that bug ^ [12:31] Laney, does "debian1" makes things sync? I though you needed to use "build1" for that [12:31] yes :) [12:32] it's just "not ubuntu" [12:32] oh ok [12:32] I though "build" was the special case [12:36] seb128, no, as in the archive. the only changed thing is a disabled pkgbinarymangler to speed up things [12:36] k, weird === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson [13:06] doko, hmm... libfriends should be dead [13:07] it was for friends-service, which is also dead [13:08] kenvandine, removal bugs would be appreciated [13:08] doko, indeed, i thought that had been done quite a while back [13:08] robru, ^^ [13:08] barry: hey, did you get anything on the python 3.4 regression? (see my answer a couple of days ago) [13:08] robru, or did you just remove them from the seed? [13:41] didrocks: not yet, but i'm going to look again today [13:47] doko, can you retry https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20151001/+build/8022636 ? [13:47] pitti: howdy!! i was wondering if there's a ppa for autopkgtest that supports running vivid+ ? [13:47] pitti: howdy!! i was wondering if there's a ppa for autopkgtest that supports running vivid+ on a trusty host? [13:47] pitti: we are having trouble running aCI on trusty with trusty's autopkgtest [13:48] seb128: done [13:48] doko: cc ^- [13:49] cjwatson, thanks === elmo_ is now known as elmo [14:13] seb128, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753310 [14:13] Gnome bug 753310 in general "Remove `#pragma GCC system_header` from gmessages.h" [Minor,Resolved: fixed] === henrix_ is now known as henrix [14:19] doko, can you retry xdg-user-dirs-gtk and xfsdump (mirror issue) [14:20] done [14:25] thanks [14:52] superm1: how do you feel about splitting fwupd into two binaries, one for the service, and one for the GUI? [15:17] doko, robru: i've filed bug 1502193 to have all the friends packages removed from the archive [15:17] bug 1502193 in unity-lens-friends (Ubuntu) "Remove friends from archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502193 [15:18] kenvandine, checked for rdeps? [15:22] infinity, bug #1502058 is one for you I guess? One of the change is sunday, "Norfolk moves from +1130 to +1100 on 2015-10-04" so maybe that should be uploaded this week (though I guess norfolk is small so it might not impact a lot of users) [15:22] bug 1502058 in tzdata (Ubuntu) "Update to 2015g" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502058 [15:44] jamespage, I know its a bit late in the day and the week but just to let you know in case you have not noticed: dpdk is now in wily's universe [15:44] smb, so I see - openvswitch-dpdk is queued up behind it - slangasek or infinity - do either of you have that on your AA todo list? [15:53] jdstrand, doko: re our later MIR of ryu - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ryu/+bug/1500950 [15:53] Launchpad bug 1500950 in ryu (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ryu" [High,Incomplete] [15:54] openstack neutron is using the python-ryu ofprotocol library to communicate with openvswitch [15:54] which is the bit we need this cycle to support liberty - not the agent process provided by ryu-bin; can we constrain the MIR review on that basis? [15:55] promoting python-ryu to main only this cycle [16:01] jamespage: yes, it's on mine [16:01] slangasek, awesome - thankyou [16:41] jdstrand, doko: actually we might be able to defer inclusion for wily - just trying something out === alkisg is now known as work_alkisg [16:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1501426 [16:55] Launchpad bug 1501426 in ubuntu-mate "15.10 Beta 2 fails HTML5 audio test for MP3" [Undecided,Won't fix] [16:56] I notice that flexiondotorg is told he shouldn't ship gstreamer1.0-libav in Ubuntu MATE - but it ships in Xubuntu 15.10 and Ubuntu Studio 15.10 (the two ISOs I just tried). [16:56] Should we not be consistent between flavours? Are Xubuntu and Ubuntu Studio in a position where they are allowed somehow? [16:59] pitti, around ? [17:02] well, if you are around, another requst for looking at bug 1501033 [17:02] bug 1501033 in open-iscsi (Ubuntu) "transient error results in /etc/resolv.conf not populated in iscsi root" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1501033 [17:14] jdstrand, doko: ryu requirement was quite soft, so have disable for this cycle [17:14] may need to revisit next === pat__ is now known as pmcgowan [18:51] kenvandine: they were removed from the seed only recently after a very long deprecation period due to not wanting to break frameworks. [18:52] indeed [18:52] robru, i filed the bug to have it removed from the archive [18:53] great [18:53] well, sad really [18:53] but ok [19:09] pitti: aww, here's another bug with ~12 hours not yet retraced 1502014 [20:05] hey slangasek I see you are patch pilot for today.. do you have a sec to give me some advice on how to package up my change for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1432871 [20:05] Launchpad bug 1432871 in coreutils (Ubuntu) "`df` shows bind mounts instead of real mounts." [Low,Incomplete] [20:05] slangasek, basically I've pushed the requisite changes to upstream coreutils and upstream gnulib. [20:07] slangasek, I've also backported that patch to wily... unfortunately .. the 2 patches containing the fix required 5 other patches in order to apply.. [20:08] slangasek.. so the question is when packaging up the changes, do you want the patches merged into one super patch in debian/patches or would you prefer 7 separate debian/patches each with their own links to the upstream links? [20:11] infinity or arges ^^^ may also be able to answer this. [20:14] also keep in mind that the requisite 5 patches are all related to supporting processing of /proc/self/mountinfo, which we probably should have had in trusty era.. *(and I'll be doing that backport as soon as it soaks in wily/vivid) [20:43] Apt pokepoke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1486061 [20:43] Launchpad bug 1486061 in apt (Ubuntu) "Long descriptions missing from apt cache - affects software-center etc" [High,Confirmed] [20:56] chiluk: I don't want 7 separate patches if you're only fixing one bug (though others may have different opinions) [21:04] that's good with me.. it actually makes it easier.. since some of the patches undo parts of the other patches.. but I included them for completeness [21:05] slangasek^^ [21:05] I'll make sure I reference them in the dep-3 headers. [21:06] chiluk: yeah, upstream pointers to the individual commits sounds good to me, but IMHO it's best to have this as a squashed patch [21:07] slangasek, ok will do. [21:37] Unit193: Followed up. [22:15] infinity: Thanks muchly, been bothering me. :P [22:16] Unit193: Amazingly, I hadn't even noticed the bug. I guess my eye just skips right past the missing info. [22:17] I did that to myself a while back, I got tired of translation downloads timing out or whtatever, and only six months later wondered why apt-cache search was much less useful than it had been [22:18] slangasek, are you up for some patch piloting? Can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/1432871 [22:18] Launchpad bug 1432871 in coreutils (Ubuntu) "`df` shows bind mounts instead of real mounts." [Low,Incomplete] [22:18] it'd been long enough of course that I long since forgotten about the change.. [22:20] sarnold: Oh, the translation hash sum mismatch madness should finally be fixed, FWIW. [22:20] sarnold: On Canonical-controlled mirrors, anyway. [22:20] infinity: yay! is there a quick summary of the fix? [22:22] infinity, do you want to take another look at bug 1432871 ?? [22:22] bug 1432871 in coreutils (Ubuntu) "`df` shows bind mounts instead of real mounts." [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1432871 [22:23] You rejected my previous change, and now I've gone and done it hopefully right... *(it's upstreamed now). [22:24] infinity: I thought about pinging you first with it, but decided I'd bothered you enough. I'd noticed as there's a few weird new packages I wondered what they did, also noticed as apt has been more lagtastic in wily. [22:25] sarnold: https://code.launchpad.net/~adconrad/canonical-is-charms/ubuntu-mirror/+merge/267728 [22:25] infinity: thanks! [22:26] sarnold: I spent years writing it off as an apt bug or something, so you can blame me for being too stupid to root-cause it ages ago. :P [22:26] sarnold: But yay, fixed now. [22:27] chiluk: Upstream's a good start indeed. [22:30] infinity, thanks. === salem_ is now known as _salem [23:23] cyphermox: but there is no GUI that comes with it, it's just got a command line frontend with it [23:44] superm1: sure. ignore me too ;) [23:44] tbh by gui we meant the command-line interface [23:44] it pulls in x libraries due to appstream-glib depending on gdk-pixbuf