[03:20] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:24]  * cfhowlett toasts lotuspsychje with coffee
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: good morning mate :p
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: ive ordered a bq 4.5 black :p
[03:26] <cfhowlett> nice!  I'm waiting for meizu to restock.
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> their out of devices?
[03:26] <cfhowlett> sold out.
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> wow
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> ive read more brands to come also
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> but i couldnt wait :p
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> meizu looks pretty shiny indeed
[03:27] <cfhowlett> I seem to recall seeing that.  my dream: blackberry finds out even Android won't restore their brand and sells to canonical
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> i see a bright future for ubuntu on devices
[03:28] <cfhowlett> well, an interesting one to be sure.
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> its getting real places in the world
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-to-get-unity-8-and-qtmir-updates-vpn-indicator-and-ota-identification-493402.shtml
[03:30] <cfhowlett> gotta say, it seems like the polishing of the OS has speeded  up considerably
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> yeah and 16.04 about to come
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> thrilling times
[03:31] <cfhowlett> yep.  I'll vbox the new LTS until release .1 then dist-upgrade
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> when would first alpha come out you think?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, there's a development timeline calendar on some wiki ...
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> nothing yet on releases
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> !release
[03:33] <ubot5`> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[07:58] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> good morning EriC^^ and Ben64
[08:54] <Ben64> hello
[08:54] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> !info actiona
[08:56] <ubot5`> Package actiona does not exist in vivid
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> !info actiona wily
[08:57] <ubot5`> actiona (source: actiona): emulate human activity through a powerful GUI and JavaScript. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.9.0-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 1706 kB, installed size 5824 kB
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> nice
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> found latest packages added
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> http://packages.ubuntu.com/nl/wily/allpackages
[08:58] <EriC^^> nice
[08:59] <Ben64> why do people insist on getting windows support in #ubuntu :|
[08:59] <Ben64> EriC^^: don't play along with it
[09:01] <EriC^^> it seems real easy
[09:01] <lordievader> Ben64: But isn't Ubuntu a sort of Windows? We should be able to get Windows support in #ubuntu! :P
[09:01] <Ben64> so join ##windows and help him there?
[09:01] <Ben64> it has no place in #ubuntu
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> i agree with Ben64 thats why we need sperate channels
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> its a windows partioned hd
[09:01] <Ben64> the issue is windows won't boot
[09:02] <Ben64> doesn't belong in #ubuntu at all
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: wb :p
[09:06] <EriC^^> thx
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !info xpad
[09:07] <ubot5`> xpad (source: xpad): sticky note application for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.5.0-0ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 99 kB, installed size 654 kB
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> wb cfhowlett
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> these are nice sticky notes
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> i was looking for a decent tomboy alternative
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> for a fresh trusty user i installed
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> hellow :p
[11:23] <ioria> hellooooooooooooooo
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> place channel in your favs mate :p
[11:23] <ioria> ok
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> ioria: do you perhaps know a trick to find latest added packages on ubuntu?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> maybe with apt-cache search?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> latest added packages to repos
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> ioria: something like this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/newpkg?mode=byage
[11:25] <ioria> well... give me a minute...
[11:27] <ioria> lotuspsychje, you mean added to repos or added to your own system ?
[11:28] <EriC^^> there was a command like apt-cache show dunno if it would help
[11:28] <EriC^^> can't remember it though, something like apt-get info <package>
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> to repos
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> the idea is to find new added interesting software
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> the url shows us 7 days, but a whole list would be nice
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> newest date ontop
[11:32] <ioria> i see ...
[11:36] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: is there any list that you says when it was added?
[11:36] <EriC^^> like /var/lib/dpkg/status doesn't show that, if there's a list that has the added date you could parse it with awk or something
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: im looking for the repo added packages, not own system
[11:37] <EriC^^> yeah i know
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> this is the only list i find: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/newpkg?mode=byage
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> just says like 4 days old
[11:38] <EriC^^> like /var/lib/dpkg/available
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> wow big list
[11:44] <ioria> lotuspsychje,    : http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ for example ... but it's not ordered by date .... maybe a grep of the dates , and order them
[11:44] <EriC^^> oh yeah
[11:44] <ioria> lotuspsychje,   bu there are a lot of them ....
[11:44] <ioria> *but
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> wow
[11:45] <ioria> this is the parent http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> software center also has recent apps list/more
[11:46] <ioria> a script (with sed) can take the last part of the line, put it  a vector and sort them by date , recursively for ( sig !!) all the sub-repos....
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> but when i start from terminal doesnt show very usefull stuff
[11:47] <ioria> sorry... brb
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> kk
[11:59] <ioria> lotuspsychje,   try this , make a dir in your home, and  curl -o bydate.html http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/ &&  html2text bydate.html > bydate.txt      and then cat bydate.txt
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> lets see
[12:02] <ioria> now, you enter in 'a' for example ... and do  curl -o bydate.html http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/a/ &&  html2text bydate.html > bydate.txt
[12:03] <ioria> but it's not ordered by date...
[12:03] <ioria> you grep with 'sed' the program nme and the date (firt and last part of the line)....
[12:03] <ioria> *name
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> yeah and also older packages show aswell
[12:04] <EriC^^> curl -o abydate.html http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/a/ &&  html2text abydate.html > abydate.txt; grep "\-Sep\-" abydate.txt
[12:04] <ioria> yep... something like that...
[12:05] <EriC^^> packages that start with the letter a that were added in the last month
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> not bad :p
[12:05] <ioria> it will be a pain to write the script, but when it's done ... it's done   :þ
[12:06] <EriC^^> you can use for i in {a..z}; do curl -o bydate.html http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/$i/ &&  html2text bydate.html >> bydate.txt; grep "\-Sep\-" bydate.txt
[12:06] <EriC^^> all packages that have been added in the last month
[12:06] <EriC^^> in main
[12:07] <EriC^^> if you want to get anal, you go into each subdir to get the exact package names, and check if it's in your available list so you know it's for trusty
[12:08] <ioria> maybe there is a python or php scritp that let you run all the parent webpage and do it for you...
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> software-center from terminal shows a dev page to new apps, but i come to adding apps page
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> something like this
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> there must a list somewhere of all apps/packages no?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> or maybe software centre database
[12:11] <ioria> don't remember... maybe it depends on the local servers ....
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> or maybe synaptic can sort by date
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> its been a while lemme test that :p
[12:13] <ioria> i looked at it... i haven't found nothing.... someone said to filter by 'orgin'
[12:13] <ioria> 'origin'
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> !info node-raptor
[12:15] <ubot5`> node-raptor (source: node-raptor): Node.js bindings for libraptor2. In component universe, is optional. Version 0~0git20130108-1 (vivid), package size 25 kB, installed size 109 kB
[12:20] <ioria> but i agree ... it's weird that there is no list by date packages available
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> would be very usefull to know, when an interesting package gets 'added' to ubuntu repos
[12:21] <ioria> yep
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> lets say i wanna see if telegram has been added to wily
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> !info telegram wily
[12:21] <ubot5`> Package telegram does not exist in wily
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> the maintainer can add it tru the dev page
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> but users cant see the list hmm
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> ioria, EriC^^ found it tnx to seb from devel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/wily-changes/
[12:29] <ioria> lotuspsychje,   good find ....
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/trusty-changes/
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> and for trusty yayyy
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !info ipmitool
[12:30] <ubot5`> ipmitool (source: ipmitool): utility for IPMI control with kernel driver or LAN interface (daemon). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.15-1ubuntu0.1 (vivid), package size 368 kB, installed size 1492 kB
[12:43] <EriC^^> cool
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:45] <ioria> lotuspsychje,   this is updated at 12.06 of today (but not wily) http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/?type=dists&vals=trusty
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> nice1 ioria
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> !info apticron
[12:50] <ubot5`> apticron (source: apticron): Simple tool to mail about pending package updates. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.57 (vivid), package size 13 kB, installed size 87 kB
[12:51] <ioria> interesting ....
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> we learning today :p
[12:52] <ioria> you always learning ...
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> support is so slow today
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/1500-game-on-steam-for-linux-and-almost-1-of-the-user-base-493450.shtml
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> DJones or Tm_T alive?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> phunyguy or popey perhaps
[14:29] <popey> wassup?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> popey: i think myblbh22uelove is a bot here
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> popey: started to join after services issues yesterday
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> laterz fellas
[16:53] <Bashing-om> It's Friday; all reved up and no plae to go ? Seems slow here now on IRC .
[16:54] <pauljw> hi Bashing-om i'm sure it'll pick up here in few hours.  :)
[16:55] <cfhowlett> yeah.  just wait until the kids eat dinner ...
[16:55] <Bashing-om> patience, I am told is a virtue. :)
[19:39] <pwnstr> hi
[19:40] <EriC^^> hi pwnstr
[19:52] <daftykins> \o
[21:31] <TJ-> That Guest64566 has been asking weird questions around package management for a few days, and also about Android adb/fastboot. Each time it feels like they're deliberately doing things the 'wrong' way and trying to be difficult.
[21:35] <daftykins> :D
[21:35] <daftykins> mmm i get that vibe, didn't realise it was a past troublemaker
[21:37] <TJ-> I've just gone back through my logs; the IP is pretty static, but that nick has been online for about 4 days continuously
[21:38] <daftykins> a very quirky one!
[21:40] <TJ-> The first time I noticed he came in wanting to use apt-cache to get the package lists for every release *ever* and count the number of packages
[21:40] <daftykins> mmm got a new debit card today, glad it didn't come with that contactless tech :)
[21:40] <daftykins> lol
[21:41] <TJ-> don't you like NFC?
[21:41] <daftykins> nope, don't trust that tech at all
[21:42] <daftykins> this freaware guy is petrified of thinking for him/herself
[21:42] <TJ-> Oh, I really enjoy it... for getting my PDA audio to come out of the kitchen radio by just tapping them together :)
[21:43] <daftykins> hah
[21:43] <daftykins> well that's a totally different context! but carrying my card details able to give them up to someone walking past me in the street? madness
[21:43] <TJ-> Yeah, and all due to a broken network config which I originally suggested would be best simply fixing, so an online do-release-upgrade  could be done
[21:43] <daftykins> i don't mean to come across like a tinfoil hat wearer, i've not resisted anything like this before
[21:44] <TJ-> daftykins: I know what you mean; some of the tests I've done show being able to activate NFC from several meters
[21:44] <TJ-> daftykins: it should have a physical switch to be able to disconnect the antenna
[21:44] <daftykins> there've been a few tests on US cards and maybe even UK cards that show the £20 limit can often be totally ignored - and that important details can be lifted straight off
[21:45] <daftykins> mmm that'd work, i've heard friends are buying little metal wallets too :)
[21:46] <TJ-> yes, faraday cage principle, but just having a big  thumb-sized slide switch in the card , coloured red/green, would do wonders
[21:53] <daftykins> :)
[21:53] <daftykins> is guest making any sense yet? still seems to just be complicating matters
[21:53] <daftykins> i do get very annoyed with these types of nutjobs
[21:54] <TJ-> Me too; they seem to come at things from the opposite direction, as in "this is how I think it sohuld be done, why don't the tools/system do it this way, how do I force it to"
[21:55] <daftykins> :D
[21:55] <daftykins> yip
[21:55] <daftykins> and keep blanking us asking what the real task is
[21:58] <TJ-> A/whois MonkeyDust
[21:58] <TJ-> Grrr... I don't have a userlist in here - is MonkeyDust in this channel?
[21:58] <TJ-> OK, no :)
[21:59] <TJ-> I was going to point to the last few days log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12641625/
[21:59] <daftykins> :D
[22:07] <daftykins> i've had to ignore guest, i'll just get more worked up otherwise
[22:08] <TJ-> I'm getting the same way
[22:09] <TJ-> I get the feeling this is what the media love to call 'on the autism spectrum'
[22:09] <daftykins> :D
[22:09] <daftykins> absolutely
[22:10] <TJ-> I'm off to find some tranquiliser
[22:12] <daftykins> good luck o/
[23:21]  * daftykins shakes his head