[03:20] good morning to all [03:24] * cfhowlett toasts lotuspsychje with coffee [03:25] cfhowlett: good morning mate :p [03:26] cfhowlett: ive ordered a bq 4.5 black :p [03:26] nice! I'm waiting for meizu to restock. [03:26] their out of devices? [03:26] sold out. [03:26] wow [03:27] ive read more brands to come also [03:27] but i couldnt wait :p [03:27] meizu looks pretty shiny indeed [03:27] I seem to recall seeing that. my dream: blackberry finds out even Android won't restore their brand and sells to canonical [03:27] lol [03:28] i see a bright future for ubuntu on devices [03:28] well, an interesting one to be sure. [03:28] its getting real places in the world [03:30] http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-to-get-unity-8-and-qtmir-updates-vpn-indicator-and-ota-identification-493402.shtml [03:30] gotta say, it seems like the polishing of the OS has speeded up considerably [03:31] yeah and 16.04 about to come [03:31] thrilling times [03:31] yep. I'll vbox the new LTS until release .1 then dist-upgrade [03:32] when would first alpha come out you think? [03:33] lotuspsychje, there's a development timeline calendar on some wiki ... [03:33] nothing yet on releases [03:33] !release [03:33] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [07:58] Good morning. [08:53] good morning EriC^^ and Ben64 [08:54] hello [08:54] morning lotuspsychje [08:56] !info actiona [08:56] Package actiona does not exist in vivid [08:56] !info actiona wily [08:57] actiona (source: actiona): emulate human activity through a powerful GUI and JavaScript. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.9.0-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 1706 kB, installed size 5824 kB [08:57] nice [08:57] found latest packages added [08:57] http://packages.ubuntu.com/nl/wily/allpackages [08:58] nice [08:59] why do people insist on getting windows support in #ubuntu :| [08:59] EriC^^: don't play along with it [09:01] it seems real easy [09:01] Ben64: But isn't Ubuntu a sort of Windows? We should be able to get Windows support in #ubuntu! :P [09:01] so join ##windows and help him there? [09:01] it has no place in #ubuntu [09:01] i agree with Ben64 thats why we need sperate channels [09:01] its a windows partioned hd [09:01] the issue is windows won't boot [09:02] doesn't belong in #ubuntu at all [09:06] EriC^^: wb :p [09:06] thx [09:07] !info xpad [09:07] xpad (source: xpad): sticky note application for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.5.0-0ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 99 kB, installed size 654 kB [09:07] wb cfhowlett [09:07] these are nice sticky notes [09:07] i was looking for a decent tomboy alternative [09:08] for a fresh trusty user i installed === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [11:23] hellow :p [11:23] hellooooooooooooooo [11:23] place channel in your favs mate :p [11:23] ok [11:24] ioria: do you perhaps know a trick to find latest added packages on ubuntu? [11:24] maybe with apt-cache search? [11:24] latest added packages to repos [11:25] ioria: something like this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/newpkg?mode=byage [11:25] well... give me a minute... [11:27] lotuspsychje, you mean added to repos or added to your own system ? [11:28] there was a command like apt-cache show dunno if it would help [11:28] can't remember it though, something like apt-get info [11:28] to repos [11:29] the idea is to find new added interesting software [11:29] the url shows us 7 days, but a whole list would be nice [11:30] newest date ontop [11:32] i see ... [11:36] lotuspsychje: is there any list that you says when it was added? [11:36] like /var/lib/dpkg/status doesn't show that, if there's a list that has the added date you could parse it with awk or something [11:37] EriC^^: im looking for the repo added packages, not own system [11:37] yeah i know [11:38] this is the only list i find: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/newpkg?mode=byage [11:38] just says like 4 days old [11:38] like /var/lib/dpkg/available [11:39] wow big list [11:44] lotuspsychje, : http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ for example ... but it's not ordered by date .... maybe a grep of the dates , and order them [11:44] oh yeah [11:44] lotuspsychje, bu there are a lot of them .... [11:44] *but [11:44] wow [11:45] this is the parent http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/ [11:46] software center also has recent apps list/more [11:46] a script (with sed) can take the last part of the line, put it a vector and sort them by date , recursively for ( sig !!) all the sub-repos.... [11:46] but when i start from terminal doesnt show very usefull stuff [11:47] sorry... brb [11:47] kk [11:59] lotuspsychje, try this , make a dir in your home, and curl -o bydate.html http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/ && html2text bydate.html > bydate.txt and then cat bydate.txt [12:00] lets see [12:02] now, you enter in 'a' for example ... and do curl -o bydate.html http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/a/ && html2text bydate.html > bydate.txt [12:03] but it's not ordered by date... [12:03] you grep with 'sed' the program nme and the date (firt and last part of the line).... [12:03] *name [12:04] yeah and also older packages show aswell [12:04] curl -o abydate.html http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/a/ && html2text abydate.html > abydate.txt; grep "\-Sep\-" abydate.txt [12:04] yep... something like that... [12:05] packages that start with the letter a that were added in the last month [12:05] not bad :p [12:05] it will be a pain to write the script, but when it's done ... it's done :þ [12:06] you can use for i in {a..z}; do curl -o bydate.html http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/$i/ && html2text bydate.html >> bydate.txt; grep "\-Sep\-" bydate.txt [12:06] all packages that have been added in the last month [12:06] in main [12:07] if you want to get anal, you go into each subdir to get the exact package names, and check if it's in your available list so you know it's for trusty [12:08] maybe there is a python or php scritp that let you run all the parent webpage and do it for you... [12:08] software-center from terminal shows a dev page to new apps, but i come to adding apps page [12:09] something like this [12:09] https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/ [12:09] there must a list somewhere of all apps/packages no? [12:10] or maybe software centre database [12:11] don't remember... maybe it depends on the local servers .... [12:12] or maybe synaptic can sort by date [12:12] its been a while lemme test that :p [12:13] i looked at it... i haven't found nothing.... someone said to filter by 'orgin' [12:13] 'origin' [12:15] !info node-raptor [12:15] node-raptor (source: node-raptor): Node.js bindings for libraptor2. In component universe, is optional. Version 0~0git20130108-1 (vivid), package size 25 kB, installed size 109 kB [12:20] but i agree ... it's weird that there is no list by date packages available [12:20] would be very usefull to know, when an interesting package gets 'added' to ubuntu repos [12:21] yep [12:21] lets say i wanna see if telegram has been added to wily [12:21] !info telegram wily [12:21] Package telegram does not exist in wily [12:22] the maintainer can add it tru the dev page [12:22] but users cant see the list hmm [12:27] ioria, EriC^^ found it tnx to seb from devel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/wily-changes/ [12:29] lotuspsychje, good find .... [12:30] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/trusty-changes/ [12:30] and for trusty yayyy [12:30] !info ipmitool [12:30] ipmitool (source: ipmitool): utility for IPMI control with kernel driver or LAN interface (daemon). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.15-1ubuntu0.1 (vivid), package size 368 kB, installed size 1492 kB [12:43] cool [12:44] :p [12:45] lotuspsychje, this is updated at 12.06 of today (but not wily) http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/?type=dists&vals=trusty [12:46] nice1 ioria [12:50] !info apticron [12:50] apticron (source: apticron): Simple tool to mail about pending package updates. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.57 (vivid), package size 13 kB, installed size 87 kB [12:51] interesting .... [12:51] yeah [12:51] we learning today :p [12:52] you always learning ... [13:30] support is so slow today [13:33] http://news.softpedia.com/news/1500-game-on-steam-for-linux-and-almost-1-of-the-user-base-493450.shtml [14:27] DJones or Tm_T alive? [14:29] phunyguy or popey perhaps [14:29] wassup? [14:29] popey: i think myblbh22uelove is a bot here [14:29] popey: started to join after services issues yesterday [14:52] laterz fellas [16:53] It's Friday; all reved up and no plae to go ? Seems slow here now on IRC . [16:54] hi Bashing-om i'm sure it'll pick up here in few hours. :) [16:55] yeah. just wait until the kids eat dinner ... [16:55] patience, I am told is a virtue. :) [19:39] hi [19:40] hi pwnstr [19:52] \o [21:31] That Guest64566 has been asking weird questions around package management for a few days, and also about Android adb/fastboot. Each time it feels like they're deliberately doing things the 'wrong' way and trying to be difficult. [21:35] :D [21:35] mmm i get that vibe, didn't realise it was a past troublemaker [21:37] I've just gone back through my logs; the IP is pretty static, but that nick has been online for about 4 days continuously [21:38] a very quirky one! [21:40] The first time I noticed he came in wanting to use apt-cache to get the package lists for every release *ever* and count the number of packages [21:40] mmm got a new debit card today, glad it didn't come with that contactless tech :) [21:40] lol [21:41] don't you like NFC? [21:41] nope, don't trust that tech at all [21:42] this freaware guy is petrified of thinking for him/herself [21:42] Oh, I really enjoy it... for getting my PDA audio to come out of the kitchen radio by just tapping them together :) [21:43] hah [21:43] well that's a totally different context! but carrying my card details able to give them up to someone walking past me in the street? madness [21:43] Yeah, and all due to a broken network config which I originally suggested would be best simply fixing, so an online do-release-upgrade could be done [21:43] i don't mean to come across like a tinfoil hat wearer, i've not resisted anything like this before [21:44] daftykins: I know what you mean; some of the tests I've done show being able to activate NFC from several meters [21:44] daftykins: it should have a physical switch to be able to disconnect the antenna [21:44] there've been a few tests on US cards and maybe even UK cards that show the £20 limit can often be totally ignored - and that important details can be lifted straight off [21:45] mmm that'd work, i've heard friends are buying little metal wallets too :) [21:46] yes, faraday cage principle, but just having a big thumb-sized slide switch in the card , coloured red/green, would do wonders [21:53] :) [21:53] is guest making any sense yet? still seems to just be complicating matters [21:53] i do get very annoyed with these types of nutjobs [21:54] Me too; they seem to come at things from the opposite direction, as in "this is how I think it sohuld be done, why don't the tools/system do it this way, how do I force it to" [21:55] :D [21:55] yip [21:55] and keep blanking us asking what the real task is [21:58] A/whois MonkeyDust [21:58] Grrr... I don't have a userlist in here - is MonkeyDust in this channel? [21:58] OK, no :) [21:59] I was going to point to the last few days log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12641625/ [21:59] :D [22:07] i've had to ignore guest, i'll just get more worked up otherwise [22:08] I'm getting the same way [22:09] I get the feeling this is what the media love to call 'on the autism spectrum' [22:09] :D [22:09] absolutely [22:10] I'm off to find some tranquiliser [22:12] good luck o/ [23:21] * daftykins shakes his head