| diddledan | show me the wily (werewolf)! | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| * diddledan sniggers | 00:08 | |
| diddledan | where's shauno? | 00:10 |
| diddledan | he's been absent some time | 00:10 |
| daftykins | i thought you knew! | 00:19 |
| daftykins | he got upset about some fruity tech bashing and ragequit on us a while back :( | 00:19 |
| diddledan | oh? | 00:20 |
| diddledan | how random | 00:20 |
| daftykins | is he in any of your haunts? | 00:27 |
| diddledan | I went looking but can't see him | 00:28 |
| Myrtti | he is on #raspberrypi, gave me advice about the screen today | 00:28 |
| diddledan | hmm | 00:28 |
| daftykins | :( | 00:28 |
| diddledan | traitor :-p | 00:28 |
| Myrtti | or was, didn't check if he's online now | 00:29 |
| Myrtti | yes, he is online | 00:29 |
| * m0nkey_ waves | 01:05 | |
| daftykins | \o | 01:06 |
| m0nkey_ | Turns out I crossed a toll bridge a couple weeks ago. They sent me a very nice picture of the back of my new car :) | 01:07 |
| m0nkey_ | Cost me a grand total of $7.46 | 01:09 |
| daftykins | hmm, no markings to pay then and there? | 01:09 |
| m0nkey_ | All electronic | 01:10 |
| m0nkey_ | No toll booths | 01:10 |
| daftykins | ah, i've seen those things for up in Maine | 01:10 |
| m0nkey_ | It was Autoroute 25, crossing from Laval to Montreal. I know for next time not to take it :) | 01:11 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| DJones | Morning all | 07:22 |
| leecowdrey_ | indeed morning.... | 07:25 |
| DJones | Although I can't tell by looking out of the window, its all gray and foggy | 07:30 |
| davmor2 | Morning all bit of styx stuck in my head this morning | 08:18 |
| davmor2 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cShYbLkhBc | 08:21 |
| * zmoylan-pi holds out for the day it's the bay city rollers stuck in davmor2's head :-) | 08:31 | |
| davmor2 | zmoylan-pi: I know several so it might happen | 08:35 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy International Day of Non-Violence! 😃 | 08:37 |
| * diddledan slaps JamesTait | 08:37 | |
| * JamesTait turns the other cheek. | 08:38 | |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ1TQYjCwYc | 08:43 |
| JamesTait | Nice one, davmor2. | 08:49 |
| * Laney finds 20p | 08:52 | |
| Laney | it is a good day | 08:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | people don't bother to pick up change anymore, i must pick up 50c a week | 08:55 |
| diddledan | omg, you're rich! | 08:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | nah i dump it in charity buckets | 08:58 |
| diddledan | o/ | 08:58 |
| diddledan | I'm a charity bucket! | 08:58 |
| * zmoylan-pi puts mass accelerator on charge and punches in diddledan's location and waits for blinking light to indicate readiness... | 09:00 | |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:00 |
| * zmoylan-pi taps non blinking light... and suspects i need a new blinking light... | 09:05 | |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: you're welcome :) | 09:06 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: you can't beat a good blinking light | 09:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | well you can, i suspect that's why it's now non blinking :-) | 09:07 |
| * zmoylan-pi sees an idea for an online shop klingonhardware.com for stuff you know was built to take a beating :-D | 09:08 | |
| knightwise | zmoylan-pi: brilliant ! | 09:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | of course shipping will be expensive when the blinkylight that can take a beating costs €100 when it weighs 2-3kg due to it's reinforced steel housing | 09:11 |
| foobarry | windows 10 installer filled my windows partition on my work laptop | 10:40 |
| foobarry | stealthily | 10:41 |
| diplo | Heard about that, not looked into it.. where is it stored foobarry ? | 10:41 |
| foobarry | windows/installer | 10:42 |
| diplo | 4.3gb on mine so guess it has on mine too | 10:43 |
| diplo | Actually lots of files are quite old | 10:43 |
| diddledan | windows 10 installation files are in a folder at c:\$Windows.~BT | 10:44 |
| foobarry | oh | 10:45 |
| foobarry | so just cruft on mine? | 10:45 |
| foobarry | 18gb in installer and 13gb in winsxs | 10:45 |
| diddledan | do not delete anything from winsxs | 10:46 |
| diddledan | I would leave installer too without research into what it contains | 10:46 |
| foobarry | the disk is full | 10:46 |
| diddledan | run disk cleanup wizard | 10:46 |
| foobarry | saved 1gb | 10:47 |
| foobarry | tops | 10:47 |
| foobarry | there's CBS.log which is 500mb | 10:47 |
| foobarry | windows is such garbage | 10:47 |
| diplo | I use Ccleaner to remove Windows not needed files | 10:48 |
| foobarry | still don't have working USB or webcam in 2015 | 10:48 |
| diplo | That sucks :/ | 10:49 |
| foobarry | i only use it for vsphere client | 10:50 |
| diplo | Appears you can delete cbs.log | 10:50 |
| foobarry | only by stopping a service that cannot be stopped | 10:51 |
| foobarry | actualyl its 1gb in size | 10:51 |
| diplo | Could try in Sagemode ? But appears that it's because of a fault WMI call, from what I'm reading | 10:52 |
| diplo | Tried compressing the directory ? | 10:52 |
| foobarry | there's so much fail i wanna blow it away | 10:53 |
| foobarry | but no win10 isos | 10:53 |
| foobarry | how could a 60gb partition running only vsphere client get full? | 10:53 |
| foobarry | windows 7 requirements are low than that | 10:53 |
| diplo | windir stat ? | 10:53 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| foobarry | v3.19 of kernel isn't suspending on close lid :( 3.13 does | 11:31 |
| jpds | foobarry: Time to file a regression bug | 11:37 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| diddledan | lol: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/649653419620352000 | 12:32 |
| diddledan | the account only started this week and has several hundred thousand followers already with most of those retweeting or direct messaging him. hence 41GigaBytes of emails | 12:43 |
| knightwi1e | price of popularity | 12:52 |
| === knightwi1e is now known as knightwise | ||
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| diddledan | allo knightwise | 13:00 |
| knightwise | yo diddledan | 13:15 |
| knightwise | how are you | 13:15 |
| diddledan | I'm good | 13:15 |
| diddledan | I'm binge-watching agents of shield | 13:17 |
| * m0nkey__ tickles diddledan | 13:17 | |
| knightwise | diddledan: good thing you dont need a lot of brainpower for that | 13:17 |
| * diddledan giggles @ m0nkey__ | 13:17 | |
| diplo | knightwise: Makes it enjoyable for me :) I like things that I can watch without too much needed.. like books, just like losing myself :) | 13:23 |
| knightwise | True. | 13:26 |
| knightwise | I love watching old episodes of hill street blues while working from home | 13:50 |
| davmor2 | knightwise: that was an awesome show | 13:52 |
| knightwise | indeed it is ! | 13:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | be careful out there | 13:59 |
| * diddledan pops into the pharmacy for protection | 13:59 | |
| knightwise | I love that line .. i was SO sad when he died | 13:59 |
| diddledan | I have no idea about hill street blues other than it was cops | 14:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | a great 80s cop show | 14:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | though of course not as great as police squad | 14:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | in color | 14:02 |
| diddledan | lol | 14:02 |
| knightwise | those 2 cant be compared | 14:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | we could discuss this in the japanese garden :-) https://www.pinterest.com/pin/468092954990711908/ | 14:08 |
| knightwise | ROFL | 14:10 |
| diddledan | that's really racist about americans | 14:12 |
| diddledan | I mean what normal american do you know that walks around a garden?! | 14:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | now they'd have scooters or segways for them | 14:14 |
| diddledan | exactly | 14:14 |
| diddledan | or motorised sofas | 14:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | until they invent the floaty chairs of wall-e | 14:15 |
| diddledan | wall-e is awesome | 14:15 |
| diddledan | I love his dance with eve using a fire extinguisher for propellant | 14:18 |
| diplo | Looking at doing a thermostat out of a pi / adafruit type thing, anyone in here done anything similar, want to control heating and eventually integrate with MyCroft | 14:18 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| DJones | Heh, brilliant http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-34425092 | 15:58 |
| diddledan | lol | 16:10 |
| diddledan | another car maker is implicated in dieselgate: samsung electronics | 16:51 |
| foobarry | the shooter in oregon was british? | 16:59 |
| foobarry | oh, had a british parent | 16:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | watch this for an example of nonchalant whistling... hands up manufacturers, who don't lie on specifications | 17:00 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW | ||
| foobarry | there's specs figures, and there's defeat devices | 17:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | is there an actual law that says they can't do that? :-) | 17:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | personally i hope they get nailed to the wall and the company is fined but i also want the people who decided on this doing jail time. laws affecting corporations are terrible | 17:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | this might help add a few | 17:04 |
| foobarry | there is a moral law | 17:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | which puts how many people in prison or imposes fines that makes corporations behave? | 17:08 |
| foobarry | which wrecks a company when they lose 30% of customers | 17:10 |
| foobarry | but hopefully there is an actual law :D | 17:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | considering some of the things german companies did in wwii i'm astonished they're still around | 17:12 |
| foobarry | hugo boss | 17:15 |
| foobarry | vw | 17:15 |
| foobarry | porsche | 17:16 |
| foobarry | benz | 17:16 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| daftykins | hrmm if i bought more than one item on ebay from the same seller, should i try and negotiate the postage instead of just paying right away? | 18:06 |
| diddledan | daftykins: only if they're unreasonable prices | 18:08 |
| diddledan | it kinda depends how much you're paying for the product I guess | 18:08 |
| daftykins | basically just a bunch of books, each is a set of 4... postage is around £3.30 - £4.50 on each set | 18:08 |
| diddledan | might be worth negotiating then | 18:08 |
| daftykins | i've won each with between £5 and £8 on them all | 18:09 |
| diddledan | that's almost doubling the cost of the purchase ekse | 18:09 |
| daftykins | mind you with the postage it barely makes it a feasible profit for that person, i might just leave it :> | 18:09 |
| diddledan | else* | 18:09 |
| daftykins | tum te tum | 18:19 |
| davmor2 | Moo! :) | 18:19 |
| davmor2 | how is everyone? | 18:21 |
| daftykins | all good here ty, how be thee? | 18:21 |
| davmor2 | I be good thanks | 18:22 |
| daftykins | ah-har i just discovered the 'request total' function of ebay, that'll be handy :D | 18:23 |
| daftykins | new debit card just showed up from natwest and doesn't have contactless tech, excellent | 18:49 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 18:53 |
| daftykins | was kinda expecting it would be one | 18:55 |
| * diddledan doesn't touch daftykins contactless tech | 19:04 | |
| daftykins | diddledan: y'can't touch this ~ | 19:04 |
| daftykins | my my, clock change time on the 25th | 19:05 |
| diddledan | yey? | 19:07 |
| daftykins | it's amusing because the US changes on the 1st November, so the atlantic will shrink for a few days :) | 19:08 |
| daftykins | east coast becomes only 4hrs behind instead of 5 | 19:08 |
| diddledan | does that mean travel time reduces? | 19:08 |
| daftykins | :) | 19:08 |
| DJones | Why do i keep getting sent links to people replacing kitty litter with popping candy.....Once you've seen one cat having a bit of an experience in the litter tray, you've seen enough | 19:22 |
| daftykins | X| | 19:22 |
| daftykins | the cleanup must be annoying | 19:23 |
| DJones | You'd think so | 19:24 |
| DJones | A friend on facebook linked this video which is quite cute, specially for cat lovers https://www.facebook.com/AmazingThingsInTheWorld/videos/933718966681818/ | 19:26 |
| daftykins | impressive bit of multi touch paw action there :) | 19:28 |
| DJones | Wonder if there are any cat proof tablets | 19:28 |
| ali1234 | dude | 19:30 |
| ali1234 | you can't just casually mention the most awesome sounding video ever and then not link it | 19:30 |
| DJones | ali1234: I think was a decent one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvIGjarXreY | 19:32 |
| daftykins | the drunks are out already | 20:01 |
| daftykins | impressive | 20:01 |
| diddledan | awesome | 20:01 |
| diddledan | they're fun | 20:02 |
| daftykins | ;] | 20:03 |
| daftykins | got the Mr. Robot finale on | 20:04 |
| ball | Can Ubuntu Mobile run on a Nexus 7? | 20:42 |
| daftykins | #ubuntu-touch might be useful | 20:49 |
| popey | nexus 7 2013, yes | 20:49 |
| popey | not the 2012 version | 20:49 |
| ali1234 | can i run it on a rasberry pi 2 with the official touchscreen? | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | and what about an x86 touchscreen laptop? | 20:54 |
| diddledan | can I run it on a nokia 6770? | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | diddledan: why do ORMs all expect me to define the database schema in code? | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | why can't they just get it from the database? | 20:56 |
| diddledan | they'd still need the schema for the schema definition in code | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | i disagree | 20:57 |
| diddledan | i.e. you can't just invent stuff and magically expect it to work | 20:57 |
| diddledan | at some point you need something in code | 20:58 |
| diddledan | the point of ORMs usually is to allow for versioned schemas | 20:58 |
| diddledan | i.e. you have saved definition of each change | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | what do you call something that lets you access a SQL table as if it was an array of hash maps? | 20:59 |
| diddledan | in php that would be mysql_fetch_array | 21:00 |
| ali1234 | that's one way | 21:00 |
| diddledan | it would be really difficult to write a truly dynamic interface that works with zero-knowledge | 21:01 |
| ali1234 | i should be able to write the following code : for row in database['table']: row['field'] = "somevalue" | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | and i should be able to do it without having to know anything about the schema in advance, other than "field" exists | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | what's more, this can be implemented in about 10 lines of python | 21:03 |
| popey | ali1234: i dont think there's a mir based image for the pi | 21:13 |
| ball | Is Mir that non-X GUI thing? | 21:21 |
| popey | yes | 21:25 |
| ball | I'm not sure how I feel about that. Is it motivated by tablets and phones? | 21:26 |
| daftykins | probably by change :) | 21:27 |
| ball | I'm not sure what that means. | 21:27 |
| ali1234 | MIR and Wayland are both motivated by the switch to using compositing for all graphics | 21:28 |
| ali1234 | Mir | 21:28 |
| ali1234 | there isn't really any good reason for using compositing other than tablets and phones aren't powerfully enough to do graphics without it | 21:29 |
| ball | Can X not composite? | 21:29 |
| ali1234 | it can but it is extremely inefficient | 21:29 |
| ball | Interesting. | 21:31 |
| ali1234 | the problem isn't really that X can't composite. the problem is that it supports hardware that can't composite | 21:32 |
| ali1234 | Wayland... doesn't | 21:32 |
| ali1234 | Wayland is basically X, if you removed all the core functionality and all the extensions except for DRI2 | 21:36 |
| ali1234 | which coincidentally was written by the same person | 21:36 |
| * ball thinks about that for a bit. | 21:43 | |
| daftykins | blargh this failed subwoofer ruins music :( | 22:20 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| * diddledan woofs | 22:46 | |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| * zmoylan-pi hums like a cheap amp... | 23:42 | |
| daftykins | :) nah not the amp to blame | 23:47 |
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