| ahoneybun | hey jck77 | 03:17 |
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| ahoneybun | mhall119: https://twitter.com/ubuntufl/status/649760190032687105 | 03:21 |
| ahoneybun | that logo is kickass | 03:21 |
| mhall119 | ahoneybun: damn, that is badass, I need to order some for FOSSETCON | 03:23 |
| ahoneybun | please do | 03:23 |
| ahoneybun | do know I AM keeping one | 03:23 |
| ahoneybun | XD | 03:23 |
| ahoneybun | it would be a crime not to | 03:24 |
| ahoneybun | mhall119: the bluetooth mouse that KeithIMyers has was awesome on my N4 | 03:25 |
| ahoneybun | it would have been better with a pointer lol | 03:25 |
| ahoneybun | I saw the task managing | 03:25 |
| Nothing_Much | Which logo? | 04:23 |
| ahoneybun | Nothing_Much: https://twitter.com/ubuntufl/status/649760190032687105 | 04:23 |
| Nothing_Much | Werewolf one? | 04:23 |
| Nothing_Much | It is pretty awesome | 04:23 |
| ahoneybun | yeo | 04:23 |
| Garheade | Ok, putting ubuntu phone on my old N4, what channel should I use. | 14:09 |
| Garheade | ? | 14:09 |
| mhall119 | Garheade: rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en | 14:12 |
| mhall119 | --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en | 14:13 |
| mhall119 | ahoneybun: yeah, they're working on the pointer, it was there a couple months ago | 14:13 |
| Garheade | mhall119: so when I run the flash command it will be '--channel/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en'? | 14:18 |
| mhall119 | Garheade: yup, that will get you the daily, untested updates | 14:19 |
| mhall119 | if you want stable updates every 6 weeks instead, go with ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en | 14:19 |
| mhall119 | don't let the name fool you, there are mako images in that channel | 14:19 |
| Garheade | so the question is, why the bq channel over the ubuntu channel | 14:19 |
| mhall119 | the bq images contain the closed-source Nokia HERE AGPS service, which lets you get location data faster than using the GPS alone | 14:20 |
| Garheade | and you answered the question while I typed it... | 14:20 |
| mhall119 | without AGPS, the Nexus 4 sometimes takes 10 minutes or longer to get a GPS fix form satellites | 14:21 |
| Garheade | thanks mike... | 14:24 |
| Garheade | So, now that the flash is done, the next quesiton is, what apps do you like mostes? I'm not a reddit fan so unfortunatley... | 14:36 |
| mhall119 | Telegram | 14:39 |
| mhall119 | Authenticator for 2-factor auth | 14:39 |
| mhall119 | Dekko for email, definitely | 14:40 |
| Garheade | any activesync clients available? I use kolab for my mail hosting so IMAP/*dav is perfectly usable but AS does work pretty well too | 14:41 |
| mhall119 | not sure what active sync is, but probably not, we're still working on a generic syncing framework | 14:42 |
| Garheade | ActiveSync is the Exchange protocol for mobile devices. | 14:43 |
| Garheade | No biggie. | 14:43 |
| mhall119 | ah, yeah, don't have that | 14:45 |
| Garheade | Wheres ahoneybun? | 14:45 |
| Garheade | ahoneybun: is Kontact available for u-phone? | 14:46 |
| mhall119 | probably not, at least not easily | 14:49 |
| Garheade | :) | 14:49 |
| mhall119 | though sgclark was going some testing, to build KDE apps for Ubuntu phones, so maybe she got it working | 14:50 |
| Garheade | Sorry for the flurry of questions... I just thought I do some testing and stuff. | 14:50 |
| mhall119 | Garheade: no worries, you can join #ubuntu-touch too for those questions | 14:50 |
| jck77 | Hello | 17:46 |
| fsfsmari | Hey jck77 :) | 17:46 |
| fsfsmari | Are you coming to Ubuntu Hour tomorrow? | 17:46 |
| * ahoneybun is here | 18:45 | |
| jck77 | ahoneybun: hey | 18:51 |
| ahoneybun | hola jck77 | 18:51 |
| jck77 | ahoneybun: I will try to make it tomorrow but I have already an event in a park | 18:51 |
| ahoneybun | jck77: oh ok np | 18:51 |
| jck77 | flying drone :D | 18:51 |
| ahoneybun | nice' | 18:51 |
| jck77 | So the meeting in at the grilled cheese place right | 18:55 |
| ahoneybun | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/3210-ubuntu-hour-ft-lauderdale/ | 19:00 |
| ahoneybun | yep | 19:00 |
| ahoneybun | hey fsfsmari | 19:02 |
| fsfsmari | Hey! | 19:03 |
| fsfsmari | So....I can't login to the LoCo site, no matter how much I try. | 19:03 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 19:04 |
| ahoneybun | odd | 19:04 |
| ahoneybun | you are clicking the registar button? | 19:04 |
| ahoneybun | on the event page? | 19:05 |
| fsfsmari | Yeah, it's giving me a crazy error. | 19:05 |
| fsfsmari | I was so frustrated last night, not for no reason. | 19:05 |
| fsfsmari | I'm not even going to bother with screenshotting it, haha. | 19:06 |
| fsfsmari | Just know it will be me and Joel tomorrow. :) | 19:06 |
| ahoneybun | the error? | 19:06 |
| ahoneybun | nice | 19:06 |
| ahoneybun | thanks for grabbing Joel | 19:06 |
| fsfsmari | Yeah, the error. | 19:18 |
| fsfsmari | Hey, RSVP to the movie. ;) | 19:18 |
| fsfsmari | I'm bringing the preacher's boy with me. They've been dying to get him out and socializing. | 19:19 |
| fsfsmari | ahoneybun, you should chat him up about gaming. | 19:19 |
| ahoneybun | mm? | 19:19 |
| fsfsmari | http://www.meetup.com/DelrayTechSpace/events/225782282/ | 19:20 |
| fsfsmari | Also, I put a poll on meetup for the next movie. I'm not sure what I think about Meetup's polling system. | 19:20 |
| fsfsmari | http://www.meetup.com/DelrayTechSpace/polls/1210483/ | 19:20 |
| ahoneybun | we'll I know the movie I'll be there with keith | 19:21 |
| ahoneybun | but the preacher's boy .. | 19:21 |
| ahoneybun | fsfsmari: we should see I, Frankstain | 19:22 |
| fsfsmari | !! I don't know it. | 19:22 |
| fsfsmari | Sounds pretty great, though. | 19:22 |
| ahoneybun | it is an amazing retelling | 19:23 |
| ahoneybun | different point of view and story | 19:23 |
| ahoneybun | Frankstain fights demons and shit | 19:23 |
| fsfsmari | That sounds amazing. | 19:29 |
| mhall119 | ahoneybun: I have good news and bad news | 19:53 |
| mhall119 | the good news is, I've found a way to get mouse cursor working on my Nexus 4 in desktop mode | 19:53 |
| mhall119 | the bad news is that applying those changes breaks HDMI output | 19:54 |
| mhall119 | it should all be working next week though | 19:54 |
| fsfsmari | I am totally teaching Mark how to Bitcoin right now. | 20:23 |
| fsfsmari | ahoneybun, you should see this. It's tragilarious. | 20:23 |
| ahoneybun | XD | 20:35 |
| ahoneybun | mhall119: how does one get HDMI output? | 20:35 |
| mhall119 | ahoneybun: wait for them to fix what they just broke | 20:36 |
| mhall119 | if you don't install the silo to get the cursor, then HDMI output should work (if you boot the phone while it's plugged in, hot-plugging crashes it) | 20:36 |
| ahoneybun | I have stable on it anyway | 20:37 |
| mhall119 | ah, then you have to wait for OTA7 at least | 20:37 |
| ahoneybun | I might move tbh | 20:37 |
| ahoneybun | mhall119: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=MHL | 20:38 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 20:38 |
| ahoneybun | so many channels! | 20:40 |
| mhall119 | ahoneybun: no | 20:57 |
| mhall119 | ahoneybun: http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort-Adapter-Micro-USB-Connects-Packaging/dp/9712931870/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1443819503&sr=8-3&keywords=nexus+4+slimport I believe is the correct one | 20:58 |
| ahoneybun | I see | 21:10 |
| ahoneybun | mhall119: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/watch-canonical-showing-off-the-latest-unity-8-interface-for-ubuntu-phone-493493.shtml | 21:24 |
| Nothing_Much | awesome | 21:33 |
| ahoneybun | it is | 21:39 |
| ahoneybun | I don't have the pointer with my current channel | 21:39 |
| Nothing_Much | my goodness I love it, when's it coming out??? | 21:43 |
| ahoneybun | not sure yet | 21:44 |
| ahoneybun | but a lot of work is going in lately | 21:44 |
| Nothing_Much | awesome | 21:45 |
| ahoneybun | mhall119: is devel-proposed best? | 21:45 |
| ahoneybun | or rc? | 21:45 |
| Nothing_Much | could it be possible to make it default for 16.04? | 21:45 |
| ahoneybun | Nothing_Much: hard to tell tbh | 21:45 |
| Nothing_Much | oh man, I seriously can't wait | 21:45 |
| ahoneybun | I think it would be a bit hard doing that with a LTS | 21:46 |
| Nothing_Much | I really want Nvidia to support it already so I can use it | 21:46 |
| Nothing_Much | ahoneybun, well, given the amount of backlash Ubuntu's gotten over the years from Linux "enthusiasts", it's justified | 21:46 |
| ahoneybun | Nothing_Much: over? | 21:47 |
| Nothing_Much | not making up their minds about what Ubuntu is supposed to do to make people happy | 21:47 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 21:48 |
| ahoneybun | mhall119: this page could use some love I think: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ | 21:48 |
| Nothing_Much | most of the time it's all hypocrisy | 21:48 |
| ahoneybun | at this point Ubuntu should be called the Linux for your life | 21:49 |
| Nothing_Much | well, I can't argue that sentiment | 21:49 |
| Nothing_Much | Ubuntu helped me discover FOSS | 21:49 |
| ahoneybun | same | 21:50 |
| Nothing_Much | and I really don't see many changes, outside of its brand name | 21:50 |
| Nothing_Much | well, not "brand name" | 21:50 |
| Nothing_Much | but its logos and icons and stuff | 21:50 |
| ahoneybun | other then Unity? | 21:50 |
| ahoneybun | was a big change | 21:50 |
| Nothing_Much | oh yeah that too | 21:50 |
| ahoneybun | I hated Ubuntu at that point | 21:50 |
| Nothing_Much | but I didn't use Ubuntu 11.04 | 21:50 |
| ahoneybun | they moved WAY to EARLY | 21:50 |
| ahoneybun | I've used it since 10.04 | 21:51 |
| Nothing_Much | I think the problem was that it wasn't just Pulseaudio or some other things that were adopted earlier | 21:51 |
| ahoneybun | it was slow as hell | 21:51 |
| Nothing_Much | It was the *entire workflow* that changed and from what I've heard, it was glitchy and slow, yeah | 21:51 |
| ahoneybun | it was | 21:51 |
| ahoneybun | I was in the middle of it | 21:51 |
| Nothing_Much | which is justified, but honestly, that's what people want most of the time in the Linux community | 21:51 |
| ahoneybun | change? | 21:52 |
| Nothing_Much | they want to try out something new and bleeding edge | 21:52 |
| ahoneybun | I | 21:52 |
| Nothing_Much | that's the hypocrisy that I can't understand. lol | 21:52 |
| ahoneybun | I've met a lot that just want stable LTS | 21:52 |
| Nothing_Much | right, that's why I don't get why people move to Mint of all distros | 21:52 |
| ahoneybun | I would be on a LTS if Plasma 5 was on it | 21:52 |
| ahoneybun | but it was too big of a jump | 21:53 |
| Nothing_Much | that's why LTS releases exist and lasted for 3 years at the time | 21:53 |
| Nothing_Much | so if people didn't want to use Unity | 21:53 |
| ahoneybun | I'm ok with the 9months of support for the non-LTS | 21:53 |
| Nothing_Much | they should've stuck to the LTS releases, because that's what they're made for | 21:53 |
| Nothing_Much | yeah I'm fine with that too, because it's to put more emphasis on the LTS releases | 21:54 |
| ahoneybun | 3months for bugs and things to get cleaned up | 21:54 |
| ahoneybun | and for everyone to move by then | 21:54 |
| Nothing_Much | Yeah, and before 12.04, 3 years was acceptable to upgrade your distro, but 5 years is even better for stock Ubuntu | 21:54 |
| Nothing_Much | do other official ubuntu-based distros have 5 years of support? | 21:55 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 21:55 |
| ahoneybun | I think Xubuntu has 3 | 21:55 |
| Nothing_Much | Kubuntu should have 5 years, right? | 21:55 |
| ahoneybun | sadly I'm not sure | 21:56 |
| ahoneybun | the site says 12.04 is 5 years to 14.04 must be too | 21:57 |
| Nothing_Much | Kubuntu? | 21:57 |
| Nothing_Much | oh yeah wikipedia supports that claim too | 21:58 |
| Nothing_Much | oh hey, 3 official Ubuntu-based distros are supported for 5 years, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Ubuntu MATE | 21:59 |
| ahoneybun | yea the flavors | 22:00 |
| Nothing_Much | official ubuntu-based distros = flavors | 22:00 |
| Nothing_Much | Lubuntu and Xubuntu are supported for only 3 years though | 22:02 |
| Nothing_Much | also, are Mir and Wayland incompatible with applications with each other? | 22:05 |
| Nothing_Much | someone's telling me they are incompatible | 22:05 |
| ahoneybun | not sure | 22:11 |
| ahoneybun | I know both are working on ways to run X apps | 22:11 |
| Nothing_Much | Yeah,that's XMir and XWayland | 22:11 |
| ahoneybun | mhall119: the heck is with this error: error pushing: | 22:20 |
| ahoneybun | XD | 22:20 |
| ahoneybun | the phone shows up in ADB | 22:20 |
| ahoneybun | weird | 22:25 |
| ahoneybun | so the rc is really behind? | 22:35 |
| ahoneybun | 15.04 | 22:35 |
| mhall119 | ahoneybun: I see that sometimes, the USB cable loses it's connection momentarily | 23:28 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 23:29 |
| ahoneybun | is the rc that far behind mhall119> | 23:29 |
| ahoneybun | or am I wrong | 23:29 |
| mhall119 | ahoneybun: rc is a month or two old now | 23:30 |
| ahoneybun | damn | 23:30 |
| mhall119 | rc is what the OTA is | 23:30 |
| mhall119 | rc-proposed is the daily builds | 23:30 |
| ahoneybun | ohhh | 23:30 |
| ahoneybun | so what are you running | 23:30 |
| mhall119 | rc-proposed | 23:30 |
| mhall119 | it's been very stable | 23:30 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 23:31 |
| ahoneybun | nice | 23:31 |
| * ahoneybun moved over to tht | 23:32 | |
| ahoneybun | *that | 23:32 |
| ahoneybun | aaron@GAMING-A75MH:~$ ubuntu-device-flash query --list-channels --device=flo | 23:39 |
| ahoneybun | ubuntu-touch/rc/ubuntu | 23:39 |
| ahoneybun | ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu-pd | 23:39 |
| ahoneybun | ubuntu-touch/devel/ubuntu | 23:39 |
| ahoneybun | ubuntu-touch/devel/krillin.en | 23:39 |
| ahoneybun | ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu | 23:39 |
| ahoneybun | ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu | 23:39 |
| ahoneybun | the heck is ubuntu-pd? | 23:39 |
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