[03:17] hey jck77 [03:21] mhall119: https://twitter.com/ubuntufl/status/649760190032687105 [03:21] that logo is kickass [03:23] ahoneybun: damn, that is badass, I need to order some for FOSSETCON [03:23] please do [03:23] do know I AM keeping one [03:23] XD [03:24] it would be a crime not to [03:25] mhall119: the bluetooth mouse that KeithIMyers has was awesome on my N4 [03:25] it would have been better with a pointer lol [03:25] I saw the task managing [04:23] Which logo? [04:23] Nothing_Much: https://twitter.com/ubuntufl/status/649760190032687105 [04:23] Werewolf one? [04:23] It is pretty awesome [04:23] yeo [14:09] Ok, putting ubuntu phone on my old N4, what channel should I use. [14:09] ? [14:12] Garheade: rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en [14:13] --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en [14:13] ahoneybun: yeah, they're working on the pointer, it was there a couple months ago [14:18] mhall119: so when I run the flash command it will be '--channel/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en'? [14:19] Garheade: yup, that will get you the daily, untested updates [14:19] if you want stable updates every 6 weeks instead, go with ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en [14:19] don't let the name fool you, there are mako images in that channel [14:19] so the question is, why the bq channel over the ubuntu channel [14:20] the bq images contain the closed-source Nokia HERE AGPS service, which lets you get location data faster than using the GPS alone [14:20] and you answered the question while I typed it... [14:21] without AGPS, the Nexus 4 sometimes takes 10 minutes or longer to get a GPS fix form satellites [14:24] thanks mike... [14:36] So, now that the flash is done, the next quesiton is, what apps do you like mostes? I'm not a reddit fan so unfortunatley... [14:39] Telegram [14:39] Authenticator for 2-factor auth [14:40] Dekko for email, definitely [14:41] any activesync clients available? I use kolab for my mail hosting so IMAP/*dav is perfectly usable but AS does work pretty well too [14:42] not sure what active sync is, but probably not, we're still working on a generic syncing framework [14:43] ActiveSync is the Exchange protocol for mobile devices. [14:43] No biggie. [14:45] ah, yeah, don't have that [14:45] Wheres ahoneybun? [14:46] ahoneybun: is Kontact available for u-phone? [14:49] probably not, at least not easily [14:49] :) [14:50] though sgclark was going some testing, to build KDE apps for Ubuntu phones, so maybe she got it working [14:50] Sorry for the flurry of questions... I just thought I do some testing and stuff. [14:50] Garheade: no worries, you can join #ubuntu-touch too for those questions [17:46] Hello [17:46] Hey jck77 :) [17:46] Are you coming to Ubuntu Hour tomorrow? [18:45] * ahoneybun is here [18:51] ahoneybun: hey [18:51] hola jck77 [18:51] ahoneybun: I will try to make it tomorrow but I have already an event in a park [18:51] jck77: oh ok np [18:51] flying drone :D [18:51] nice' [18:55] So the meeting in at the grilled cheese place right [19:00] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/3210-ubuntu-hour-ft-lauderdale/ [19:00] yep [19:02] hey fsfsmari [19:03] Hey! [19:03] So....I can't login to the LoCo site, no matter how much I try. [19:04] mm [19:04] odd [19:04] you are clicking the registar button? [19:05] on the event page? [19:05] Yeah, it's giving me a crazy error. [19:05] I was so frustrated last night, not for no reason. [19:06] I'm not even going to bother with screenshotting it, haha. [19:06] Just know it will be me and Joel tomorrow. :) [19:06] the error? [19:06] nice [19:06] thanks for grabbing Joel [19:18] Yeah, the error. [19:18] Hey, RSVP to the movie. ;) [19:19] I'm bringing the preacher's boy with me. They've been dying to get him out and socializing. [19:19] ahoneybun, you should chat him up about gaming. [19:19] mm? [19:20] http://www.meetup.com/DelrayTechSpace/events/225782282/ [19:20] Also, I put a poll on meetup for the next movie. I'm not sure what I think about Meetup's polling system. [19:20] http://www.meetup.com/DelrayTechSpace/polls/1210483/ [19:21] we'll I know the movie I'll be there with keith [19:21] but the preacher's boy .. [19:22] fsfsmari: we should see I, Frankstain [19:22] !! I don't know it. [19:22] Sounds pretty great, though. [19:23] it is an amazing retelling [19:23] different point of view and story [19:23] Frankstain fights demons and shit [19:29] That sounds amazing. [19:53] ahoneybun: I have good news and bad news [19:53] the good news is, I've found a way to get mouse cursor working on my Nexus 4 in desktop mode [19:54] the bad news is that applying those changes breaks HDMI output [19:54] it should all be working next week though [20:23] I am totally teaching Mark how to Bitcoin right now. [20:23] ahoneybun, you should see this. It's tragilarious. [20:35] XD [20:35] mhall119: how does one get HDMI output? [20:36] ahoneybun: wait for them to fix what they just broke [20:36] if you don't install the silo to get the cursor, then HDMI output should work (if you boot the phone while it's plugged in, hot-plugging crashes it) [20:37] I have stable on it anyway [20:37] ah, then you have to wait for OTA7 at least [20:37] I might move tbh [20:38] mhall119: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=MHL [20:38] ? [20:40] so many channels! [20:57] ahoneybun: no [20:58] ahoneybun: http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort-Adapter-Micro-USB-Connects-Packaging/dp/9712931870/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1443819503&sr=8-3&keywords=nexus+4+slimport I believe is the correct one [21:10] I see [21:24] mhall119: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/watch-canonical-showing-off-the-latest-unity-8-interface-for-ubuntu-phone-493493.shtml [21:33] awesome [21:39] it is [21:39] I don't have the pointer with my current channel [21:43] my goodness I love it, when's it coming out??? [21:44] not sure yet [21:44] but a lot of work is going in lately [21:45] awesome [21:45] mhall119: is devel-proposed best? [21:45] or rc? [21:45] could it be possible to make it default for 16.04? [21:45] Nothing_Much: hard to tell tbh [21:45] oh man, I seriously can't wait [21:46] I think it would be a bit hard doing that with a LTS [21:46] I really want Nvidia to support it already so I can use it [21:46] ahoneybun, well, given the amount of backlash Ubuntu's gotten over the years from Linux "enthusiasts", it's justified [21:47] Nothing_Much: over? [21:47] not making up their minds about what Ubuntu is supposed to do to make people happy [21:48] yea [21:48] mhall119: this page could use some love I think: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ [21:48] most of the time it's all hypocrisy [21:49] at this point Ubuntu should be called the Linux for your life [21:49] well, I can't argue that sentiment [21:49] Ubuntu helped me discover FOSS [21:50] same [21:50] and I really don't see many changes, outside of its brand name [21:50] well, not "brand name" [21:50] but its logos and icons and stuff [21:50] other then Unity? [21:50] was a big change [21:50] oh yeah that too [21:50] I hated Ubuntu at that point [21:50] but I didn't use Ubuntu 11.04 [21:50] they moved WAY to EARLY [21:51] I've used it since 10.04 [21:51] I think the problem was that it wasn't just Pulseaudio or some other things that were adopted earlier [21:51] it was slow as hell [21:51] It was the *entire workflow* that changed and from what I've heard, it was glitchy and slow, yeah [21:51] it was [21:51] I was in the middle of it [21:51] which is justified, but honestly, that's what people want most of the time in the Linux community [21:52] change? [21:52] they want to try out something new and bleeding edge [21:52] I [21:52] that's the hypocrisy that I can't understand. lol [21:52] I've met a lot that just want stable LTS [21:52] right, that's why I don't get why people move to Mint of all distros [21:52] I would be on a LTS if Plasma 5 was on it [21:53] but it was too big of a jump [21:53] that's why LTS releases exist and lasted for 3 years at the time [21:53] so if people didn't want to use Unity [21:53] I'm ok with the 9months of support for the non-LTS [21:53] they should've stuck to the LTS releases, because that's what they're made for [21:54] yeah I'm fine with that too, because it's to put more emphasis on the LTS releases [21:54] 3months for bugs and things to get cleaned up [21:54] and for everyone to move by then [21:54] Yeah, and before 12.04, 3 years was acceptable to upgrade your distro, but 5 years is even better for stock Ubuntu [21:55] do other official ubuntu-based distros have 5 years of support? [21:55] mm [21:55] I think Xubuntu has 3 [21:55] Kubuntu should have 5 years, right? [21:56] sadly I'm not sure [21:57] the site says 12.04 is 5 years to 14.04 must be too [21:57] Kubuntu? [21:58] oh yeah wikipedia supports that claim too [21:59] oh hey, 3 official Ubuntu-based distros are supported for 5 years, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Ubuntu MATE [22:00] yea the flavors [22:00] official ubuntu-based distros = flavors [22:02] Lubuntu and Xubuntu are supported for only 3 years though [22:05] also, are Mir and Wayland incompatible with applications with each other? [22:05] someone's telling me they are incompatible [22:11] not sure [22:11] I know both are working on ways to run X apps [22:11] Yeah,that's XMir and XWayland [22:20] mhall119: the heck is with this error: error pushing: [22:20] XD [22:20] the phone shows up in ADB [22:25] weird [22:35] so the rc is really behind? [22:35] 15.04 [23:28] ahoneybun: I see that sometimes, the USB cable loses it's connection momentarily [23:29] yea [23:29] is the rc that far behind mhall119> [23:29] or am I wrong [23:30] ahoneybun: rc is a month or two old now [23:30] damn [23:30] rc is what the OTA is [23:30] rc-proposed is the daily builds [23:30] ohhh [23:30] so what are you running [23:30] rc-proposed [23:30] it's been very stable [23:31] oh [23:31] nice [23:32] * ahoneybun moved over to tht [23:32] *that [23:39] aaron@GAMING-A75MH:~$ ubuntu-device-flash query --list-channels --device=flo [23:39] ubuntu-touch/rc/ubuntu [23:39] ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu-pd [23:39] ubuntu-touch/devel/ubuntu [23:39] ubuntu-touch/devel/krillin.en [23:39] ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu [23:39] ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu [23:39] the heck is ubuntu-pd?