[02:26] Unit193: good work [02:43] Unit193: won't be making it to OLF this year, fwiw [02:43] bluesabre: So what's up? [02:43] Awwwh, I see. Don't think I will. [02:44] not much, just got back from dinner and movie [02:45] glad to see that the ubi-timezone bug might be fixed tomorrow [02:46] Know anything about apt-cache show? [02:47] I've used it in the past [02:47] Fails in wily, vivid is fine. [02:47] This is major problem™ [02:48] for a particular package? [02:48] All. [02:48] PPAs, my repo, Ubuntu repos. [02:49] Also, it's been more laggy. [02:49] Found one that works now.. [02:50] running wily, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12636185/ [02:51] real 0m5.786s, vivid real 0m0.982s and http://paste.openstack.org/show/d9TUXTryecd57XRQBxcy [02:52] Tabcomplete has also greatly slowed. [02:54] Soo, kind of have to keep vivid around just to check what a package is. [02:54] real0m1.316s [02:54] suppose that is slow [02:55] haven't had the best of luck with nvidia on my laptop with wily... currently stable because I installed bumblebee (of all things) [02:56] going to try again this weekend when I reinstall once more [02:56] Tell me if apt looks any better. [03:05] bed time, back tomorrow (yay, weekend time for getting things done) [03:05] Hah, a'ight. [06:27] Unit193 bluesabre - caught up on core here and there, I'd certainly be happier if we'd pushed core more during this cycle - as it stands hardly any testing of it [06:28] thing's stuck rebuilding somehow too [06:29] I think I would rather wait 4 weeks and aim for 16.04 - would perhaps have been better to have tested more this cycle - but we didn't [06:29] also [06:30] Well cdimage hasn't built it yet, so didn't have anything to test. [06:30] If we're going to start testing it properly - really needs to be building like the other 2 so we can rebuild ourselves when we want [06:30] Unit193: yea - shouldn't have ended up in that state - not sure how it did [06:31] Black hole called "merge proposal" [06:31] it's on the list - but should be a stand alone thing - never rebuilding, just sitting there for a cycle [06:31] Unit193: unless it's on the cron then that shouldn't make any difference afaik [06:34] Meh, all the merges were up and sitting there for quite some time now, and they still aren't in. We'll likely be lucky to get it for XXX after all. [06:35] ... [06:35] But, it should be built just like the other ISOs, but we don't need to test it as much afaik. [06:36] Unit193: yep [06:36] I'd likely mention it a few times - then do the milestone shuffle with that as well as normal ones [06:37] effectively I guess we're really just testing that it installs [06:37] did krytarik do whatever he was doing? [06:38] as it stands now - I think we'll be lucky to get anywhere in the next 2 weeks - so maybe better to push for them to sort stuff out early xx [06:52] The ubuntu-cdimage one? Yeah, long ago as well. === flocculant is now known as Guest24765 === Guest24765 is now known as flocculant === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [10:39] flocculant: yeah, I agree with your position. I think if we can get somebody started on adding these things in, we can have it when x starts [12:02] bluesabre: yep - that seems the sensible way to move on I think [12:07] bluesabre: btw been digging around for Templates - close to New Zealand but not a resolution :p [16:05] oh no! http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/10/gigabytes-of-user-data-from-hack-of-patreon-donations-site-dumped-online/ [16:05] :( [16:05] thats so bad [17:10] oh yes [17:10] sorry [17:10] :( [17:30] why we getting mails to http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151001-wily.html [18:10] Yey! None Xubuntu! [18:12] well yea - I saw that :p [18:14] didn't know why we were suddenly getting the mails - can't imagine it's something new [18:15] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-October/ [18:21] yea - but still wonder [18:21] I assume this *thing* isn't new - never seen one cc'd to us [18:21] (though I'd see it from -announce) [18:30] It wasn't. [18:30] They do random entire repo rebuilds, otherwise it's only new stuff or transitions. [18:34] ok - that's fine, just checking the why: [19:03] Q: Do we actually care about skippy-ed at this point at all? (https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/extras) [19:31] does it do something the dashboard doesn't? [19:31] where we actually looking at either seriously? [19:34] xfdashboard is pending in pkg-xfce, and Debian #788332 (-pulseaudio is hungup in NEW.) [19:34] Debian bug 788332 in wnpp "ITP: xfdashboard -- GNOME shell like dashboard for Xfce" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/788332 [19:35] not quite what I meant - are we looking to add one to default? [19:41] Unit193: i guess for MR you really need to poke ppl directly on irc. or poke people to poke people. [19:41] (as annoying as that is) [19:42] ochosi: I have been. [19:54] Unit193: oh ok. i guess we should've done a better job at supporting you there then [20:04] bluesabre: did you see bug 1501041 [20:04] bug 1501041 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "No visible display in ubuntu session when using nvidia drivers via nvidia-prime until screen goes to sleep, then waked up" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1501041 [20:05] seen a few nvidia issues this cycle - not been using it myself (and no need for that bumblebee thingymajig) [20:05] evening ochosi [20:06] hi flocculant [20:08] hello all [20:08] hi knome [20:08] flocculant, there's a draft page at the website for you to look at [20:09] knome: okey doke :) [20:09] flocculant, just log in and find it on the list of pages in the admin [20:09] Unit193: did you see recentish bug for apt-cache long descriptions? [20:09] knome: yep - will do :) [20:09] did some small changes (eg. to drop the multi-level lists) and wanted to run it by you [20:10] well I might well want them back - the ones I had were there for a reason [20:10] i know [20:10] but if you want them back, then we just add them back :P [20:10] no biggie [20:10] yep :) [20:11] another thing i was wondering if this level of deepness is suitable for the website [20:11] I was wondering that [20:11] but [20:11] which is mostly targeted end-users [20:11] i know, we don't have other place for it either... [20:11] I didn't really want it to be globally editable - so veered away from wiki [20:12] yep [20:12] maybe we'll have better outlets for that kind of information in 6-12 months [20:12] :) [20:18] knome: ok - happy enough with that layout - don't publish yet, seen one typo - will check it again tomorrow [20:18] yep, sure [20:19] and it's not a spelling error - my original said one thing - the draft says something else - not sure what happened there [20:19] :) [20:19] thanks :D [20:19] i changed wording in one place [20:20] I know ;) [20:20] practically avoiding links that say "here" [20:20] yep - saw that [20:20] good good :) [20:20] and as always, just ask me if you need further feedback or help with it [20:21] and yea - possibly not the best place for it - but it's what we have and we really needed a more or less one-stop place [20:21] yeah... [20:22] i'm actually really interested in setting up our own wiki [20:22] right [20:22] or something along the lines of that [20:22] would be useful to have somewhere that we've got some control [20:23] at least we can 'go here' for the last word [20:24] yep [20:25] I'll look tomorrow - then let you know [20:25] I don't want to screw up publishing that in the wrong place :p [20:27] flocculant: Thought so, but has new info. [20:27] Still has some oddities, but eh. [20:28] personally I don't use show much - but I can see it being a pain