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daftykinsyou ever find it annoying parted doesn't show unallocated space?00:43
EriC^^yeah00:44
EriC^^that kinda sucks00:45
Bashing-om^^ I am trying to develope the habit to read the numbers. Still just a guessing game .00:46
EriC^^it's pretty cool that it can read gpt and msdos though00:46
EriC^^yeah, the numbers to the left get mixed up sometimes, it's kind of odd00:47
daftykinsthat does annoy :D00:48
daftykinsnetcrash's is a complete mess :(00:57
EriC^^yeah00:57
daftykinsrH, that's a new one on me00:57
daftykinsHeld?00:58
daftykinsi'm tempted to pull a really ballsy move and just purge the lot and reinstall linux-generic00:58
daftykinsbut it's a bit irresponsible :D00:58
EriC^^hehe00:59
Bashing-omThere is also pulling the rug out from under . rm'n /usr/src/   /lib/modules/ kernel images and headers ; then '-f install' to put the pieces back together .01:06
EriC^^O.o01:07
daftykinsD:01:07
daftykinsEriC^^: i don't get it, it's not reclaiming space at all - perhaps going nuclear is the only approach?01:07
EriC^^boot is still full01:07
daftykinshow about purge linux-image then put just the latest back on?01:07
* EriC^^ puts on his radiation suit01:08
daftykinssorry linux-image*01:08
EriC^^yeah01:09
EriC^^maybe mv /boot/*3.13.0-58-generic /oldboot01:10
Bashing-omPray to the freq Gods 1st, that the AC holds up .. a loss in continuity will be real tough to overcome .01:10
daftykinsEriC^^: do you think dpkg -P linux-image* would work the easiest?01:11
daftykinsi'm not sure which would make it fight less01:11
EriC^^i think apt-get is better01:12
EriC^^dpkg has failed us01:12
daftykinsok lets see what we can do01:12
Bashing-omBut, 'dpkg' will work in tight overhead contraints whereas 'apt-get' cannot .01:17
EriC^^yeah that's true01:17
EriC^^it somehow didn't remove the actual files this time, just removed the list from dpkg -l01:18
EriC^^*shrug*01:18
daftykinsheh it's behaving really oddly01:18
daftykinsi wonder if there's a mount overlap thing going on01:19
EriC^^i'm trying not to think about it, it's like a nerd snipe waiting to happen01:19
daftykins:D01:20
daftykinscatching us out? mmm could be01:20
daftykinsi bet 'sudo apt-get -f install' will try and throw on a bunch of old 3.13.0-3x versions again01:20
EriC^^lol01:20
daftykinsthat was probably the ugliest way of doing that one but eh, hopefully it works ;)01:22
EriC^^;)01:23
daftykinsi swear if apt-get -f install... *shakes fist*01:24
EriC^^awesome01:25
daftykins\o/01:25
daftykinsdo we need anything else to ensure EFI boot will be ok?01:25
EriC^^nah01:25
daftykinsearlier he had a linux-image generic.efi blah blah but there hasn't been one for a while01:25
daftykinsah cool :>01:25
EriC^^some of the files are still in /boot though01:26
EriC^^the initrd's01:27
EriC^^i wonder what would happen if he just rm them01:27
EriC^^it's so odd01:27
daftykinsoh yeah i mean all of it was, i just had them all moved to /oldboot01:28
daftykinswe'll just pretend it never happened 8D01:28
EriC^^oh01:28
daftykinsnothing like a good sweeping under the carpet01:29
EriC^^:D01:29
EriC^^i better get to bed, gnite daftykins Bashing-om01:36
daftykinsnn sir o/01:37
Bashing-omNighty, come back finer n a frog's hair .01:38
daftykinshehehe01:42
lotuspsychjegood morning to all03:31
cfhowlettlotuspsychje, https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a8/c5/92/a8c592f438b6c79189db6d9bdfc748e3.jpg03:34
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: lol tnx!03:35
* lotuspsychje calls wolf to clean up the kitchen afterwards03:35
cfhowlettThat would e MR. or THE Wolf iirc.03:36
lotuspsychjeah right03:36
lotuspsychjeits long time ago :p03:37
lordievaderGood morning.07:51
MonkeyDustyes but no10:36
lordievaderNo but yes?10:36
pauljwHi everyone12:38
lordievadero/12:39
lotuspsychjegood afternoon mates12:50
MonkeyDusthi12:51
lotuspsychjehello MonkeyDust12:52
lotuspsychjehttp://linux.softpedia.com/blog/the-default-wallpapers-of-ubuntu-15-10-wily-werewolf-gallery-493511.shtml12:53
lotuspsychjewilly wallz12:53
lotuspsychjehi glebihan12:57
lotuspsychjeyowza cfhowlett :p12:59
cfhowletthey ^3 lotuspsychje13:00
lotuspsychjewhats the time in china13:00
lotuspsychje15h00 here13:00
cfhowlett2100 Central China Time13:00
lotuspsychjebelgian sunny weather here13:00
cfhowletttime for ...13:00
lotuspsychjeIRC!13:00
cfhowlettcoffee and waffles??13:00
lotuspsychjelol13:00
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: did the wolf come clean yet?13:01
cfhowlettindeed13:01
lotuspsychje!mircspec13:06
lotuspsychje!mirspec13:07
ubot5`Details about Mir can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec13:07
lotuspsychjewow looks pretty complex13:07
lotuspsychje!paid13:11
ubot5`If you've purchased software from the Software Centre and are experiencing issues please consult https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pay13:11
* lotuspsychje is browsing new factoids13:11
lotuspsychjetieinv: afternoon13:12
tieinvlotuspsychje, morning13:12
lotuspsychje!upgradeofflts13:13
ubot5`To upgrade from an LTS release of Ubuntu to the next (non-LTS) release, run sudoedit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change the prompt= line to "prompt=normal". Then, do sudo do-release-upgrade to begin the upgrade.13:13
lotuspsychjeso this would make 14.04 goto 15.04 right?13:13
cfhowlettlotuspsychje, nope.  it would try 14.10 but as 14.10 is no longer live, eolupgrade13:14
lotuspsychjeso in wich cases do we need this trigger?13:15
cfhowlettfor those cases when someone requests LTS > next release13:15
lotuspsychje16.04 -> 16.10?13:15
cfhowlettyep13:16
lotuspsychjecool13:16
lotuspsychje12.10 and 14.10 eol so13:17
lotuspsychje!shellshock13:18
ubot5`Ubuntu has released security updates for both recent bash vulnerabilities for all currently-supported versions of Ubuntu. Use your preferred package manager to apply all pending updates. See http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/ , http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2363-1/ , and http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2363-2/ for more information.13:18
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: i didnt know your pic shows on a trigger: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=added%20DESC&page=0 female#ubuntu-offtopic13:20
cfhowletteh?  give me a tiny url --- that one didn't complete13:21
cfhowlettah, found it13:22
lotuspsychjelol13:22
cfhowlettoh, see, now, that's just mean ...13:22
* lotuspsychje hides13:22
lotuspsychjegoing slow again today13:35
lotuspsychjeubuntu is so good, users dont have troubles anymore13:35
lordievaderLet's just believe that is the thing...13:35
cfhowlettfewer users, more trollers ...13:35
lotuspsychjesoon we will be outa work13:37
lordievaderMeh, don't think so.13:38
lotuspsychjelol13:38
lotuspsychjethe 15.10 rush is almost there yayyyy13:38
lordievaderSome people go to great lengths to redifine stupid actions.13:38
MonkeyDusti didnt have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed and never noticed!13:44
cfhowlettthat's bad?13:45
MonkeyDustthat's good, everything worked as it should13:45
lotuspsychjeand your flash works ?13:46
MonkeyDustlike in, youtube.com?13:47
lotuspsychjeyeah13:47
MonkeyDustyup13:48
lotuspsychjenice13:48
MonkeyDust"The HTML5 player is currently used when possible. "13:48
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: afternoon mate14:14
EriC^^afternoon lotus14:14
MonkeyDustnice cartoon: Americans all carry a weapon, to defend themselves against people with a weapon14:19
lotuspsychjelol14:19
Lego_2015I was referred here. Hi guyz.16:42
Lego_2015Any body online?16:43
DosTuMaiQuestion: is my hardware up to spec for running Ubuntu? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1XfDBb8toplNkVzeWpXS1NvMG817:18
lordievaderDosTuMai: Of course, potatoes are capable of running anything!17:19
lordievaderPotatoes > pies.17:20
DosTuMaiPhew.17:20
DosTuMaiGlad I upgraded the hardware from a lemon.17:21
lordievaderAh, yeah. Lemons are a bit sour.17:21
DosTuMaiFound the RAM kept breking, too.17:22
DosTuMaiBreaking, also...17:22
lordievaderThat is the acid in the lemon it dissolves part of the ram makeing it easier to break..17:23
DosTuMaiDamn you, citric acid. *Fist shake.*17:23
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daftykinshmm this guy saying you can cp an iso to a /dev/sdx sounds interesting20:07
daftykinswould probably make helping make flash drives a lot easier if true20:08
Bashing-omI done inserted my foot in my mouth this day, I hope 1 is my quota for the day . Let's see if 'cp' will do that ( I do have my doubts !) .20:09
daftykinsyeah i'm a bit hesitant, i'm not on a host system to test right now though20:20
Bashing-omHuman nature to make things more complicated than they are ?20:23
DossieWossieBooPretty much. Doesn't Ubuntu mount .iso files without doing a cp to /dev/sdx?20:25
Bashing-omDossieWossieBoo: I do it : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-Ubuntu ISOs are designed to allow booting directly from the hard drive using GRUB 2 and eliminates the need for burning a CD/DVD.20:27
DossieWossieBooThat's pretty much what I do.20:29
daftykinswell that's lovely and all, but not hugely practical for new users20:29
Bashing-om^^ a fact. Booting the .iso does take a level of familiarity ( and want to ).20:31
daftykinsdefinitely would be handy for all those ones we get that want to clean install but don't have a flash drive (somehow) :D20:32
pauljwbbl... dinnertime21:59
daftykinscan't be long before 15.04's death now, no? January?22:26
daftykinsAndroUser is getting the full teams attention today :)22:28
Bashing-omYeah, and making of patience a virtue .22:29
daftykinsTJ-: fwiw i already checked for ~/ file ownership, intel only graphics according to Xorg's log, but i gave up on the sight of PPAs and said just reinstall :D22:29
daftykinsno idea why it boots him, we also tried another user account22:29
daftykins(freshly made one) though can't be sure that it was made correctly22:29
TJ-Really? Hmm, I saw mention it is kubuntu using sddm, is that correct?22:30
daftykinsyeah, although he's messed around with switching that to lightdm i think now22:31
daftykinshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12655595/22:31
daftykinshere's a sign of how crufted that install is ;)22:31
TJ-daftykins: incorrect paths in the sources.list22:34
daftykinsbit annoyed i was lied to about ~/22:35
daftykinsmust be the guy didn't know how to 'less' a listing at a TTY22:35
TJ-Looks like an Android user :)22:36
OerHeksi wonder why androuser uses alien/rpm, as he has a .rpmdb in his homefolder...22:36
daftykinsprobably from another ridiculous installation that goes hand in hand with all those messy PPAs :(22:36
OerHeksoh, then he should try #kubuntu :-D22:37
daftykinsXD22:37
daftykinsTJ-: how are the huskies today sir?22:37
TJ-OerHeks: I've had that in the past from breaking source-code out of RPMs22:38
TJ-Well, they got me round the field in about 20 minutes this afternoon ( Pepper tows me on the bike!) - usually takes 40 minutes22:38
OerHeksTJ-, there are surely reasons, i just wonder why he uses it. especially with sddm22:39
daftykins:O22:39
daftykinsthey wanted to get home and warm maybe :)22:39
TJ-Silver has the hump because I'm not letting her on the leather sofa where she keeps making a mess :D22:39
daftykinshahaha, doggy is denied22:39
daftykinsi was just vacuuming up several spare cats around my place22:39
TJ-She's a sly one too... the moment we're not looking she sneaks on very quilety22:39
TJ-Oh, we do that daily the Huskies never stop shedding22:40
TJ-Errr, daftykins were those messages for this channel :D22:42
daftykinsnah :)22:42
daftykinsi figure even if you get him going, that install is full of cruft22:42
daftykinsbut ah well22:42
DossieWossieBoohttps://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1XfDBb8toplSWcxWE5PZkNCcEE23:03
daftykinswhat's this?23:04
DossieWossieBooIt's a link.23:04
daftykinsyou know we usually leave the stupid statements to #ubuntu :)23:04
TJ-daftykins: I'm keeping at it since I'm interested in the KDE side of things (probably going to start coding for KDE) so I'm trying to get to know it inside-out23:05
DossieWossieBooI just thought I'd do something unexpected...23:05
daftykinsTJ-: ah rightyo, good practice then23:05
daftykins(II) HELPER: Starting: "/usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsession" "gnome-session --session=cairo-dock"23:06
daftykinso023:06
daftykinsdo i spy a conflict o023:07
OerHeksmaybe a stupid thought: does that drive contain errors, so it is read only now?23:08
OerHeksafter trying to set a cookie, something stops , see line 133 and on23:09
TJ-daftykins: Yeah, but the timestamps are WAY in the past23:11
daftykinsah is it one of those new in the top files o023:11
TJ-The last entry is 13:40, the last start attempt was around 18:3023:11
daftykinshe claimed it was an upgrade from 14.10 to 15.0423:12
TJ-It looks like there may be several DEs installed23:13
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