[00:43] <daftykins> you ever find it annoying parted doesn't show unallocated space?
[00:44] <EriC^^> yeah
[00:45] <EriC^^> that kinda sucks
[00:46] <Bashing-om> ^^ I am trying to develope the habit to read the numbers. Still just a guessing game .
[00:46] <EriC^^> it's pretty cool that it can read gpt and msdos though
[00:47] <EriC^^> yeah, the numbers to the left get mixed up sometimes, it's kind of odd
[00:48] <daftykins> that does annoy :D
[00:57] <daftykins> netcrash's is a complete mess :(
[00:57] <EriC^^> yeah
[00:57] <daftykins> rH, that's a new one on me
[00:58] <daftykins> Held?
[00:58] <daftykins> i'm tempted to pull a really ballsy move and just purge the lot and reinstall linux-generic
[00:58] <daftykins> but it's a bit irresponsible :D
[00:59] <EriC^^> hehe
[01:06] <Bashing-om> There is also pulling the rug out from under . rm'n /usr/src/   /lib/modules/ kernel images and headers ; then '-f install' to put the pieces back together .
[01:07] <EriC^^> O.o
[01:07] <daftykins> D:
[01:07] <daftykins> EriC^^: i don't get it, it's not reclaiming space at all - perhaps going nuclear is the only approach?
[01:07] <EriC^^> boot is still full
[01:07] <daftykins> how about purge linux-image then put just the latest back on?
[01:08]  * EriC^^ puts on his radiation suit
[01:08] <daftykins> sorry linux-image*
[01:09] <EriC^^> yeah
[01:10] <EriC^^> maybe mv /boot/*3.13.0-58-generic /oldboot
[01:10] <Bashing-om> Pray to the freq Gods 1st, that the AC holds up .. a loss in continuity will be real tough to overcome .
[01:11] <daftykins> EriC^^: do you think dpkg -P linux-image* would work the easiest?
[01:11] <daftykins> i'm not sure which would make it fight less
[01:12] <EriC^^> i think apt-get is better
[01:12] <EriC^^> dpkg has failed us
[01:12] <daftykins> ok lets see what we can do
[01:17] <Bashing-om> But, 'dpkg' will work in tight overhead contraints whereas 'apt-get' cannot .
[01:17] <EriC^^> yeah that's true
[01:18] <EriC^^> it somehow didn't remove the actual files this time, just removed the list from dpkg -l
[01:18] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[01:18] <daftykins> heh it's behaving really oddly
[01:19] <daftykins> i wonder if there's a mount overlap thing going on
[01:19] <EriC^^> i'm trying not to think about it, it's like a nerd snipe waiting to happen
[01:20] <daftykins> :D
[01:20] <daftykins> catching us out? mmm could be
[01:20] <daftykins> i bet 'sudo apt-get -f install' will try and throw on a bunch of old 3.13.0-3x versions again
[01:20] <EriC^^> lol
[01:22] <daftykins> that was probably the ugliest way of doing that one but eh, hopefully it works ;)
[01:23] <EriC^^> ;)
[01:24] <daftykins> i swear if apt-get -f install... *shakes fist*
[01:25] <EriC^^> awesome
[01:25] <daftykins> \o/
[01:25] <daftykins> do we need anything else to ensure EFI boot will be ok?
[01:25] <EriC^^> nah
[01:25] <daftykins> earlier he had a linux-image generic.efi blah blah but there hasn't been one for a while
[01:25] <daftykins> ah cool :>
[01:26] <EriC^^> some of the files are still in /boot though
[01:27] <EriC^^> the initrd's
[01:27] <EriC^^> i wonder what would happen if he just rm them
[01:27] <EriC^^> it's so odd
[01:28] <daftykins> oh yeah i mean all of it was, i just had them all moved to /oldboot
[01:28] <daftykins> we'll just pretend it never happened 8D
[01:28] <EriC^^> oh
[01:29] <daftykins> nothing like a good sweeping under the carpet
[01:29] <EriC^^> :D
[01:36] <EriC^^> i better get to bed, gnite daftykins Bashing-om
[01:37] <daftykins> nn sir o/
[01:38] <Bashing-om> Nighty, come back finer n a frog's hair .
[01:42] <daftykins> hehehe
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:34] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a8/c5/92/a8c592f438b6c79189db6d9bdfc748e3.jpg
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: lol tnx!
[03:35]  * lotuspsychje calls wolf to clean up the kitchen afterwards
[03:36] <cfhowlett> That would e MR. or THE Wolf iirc.
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> ah right
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> its long time ago :p
[07:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> yes but no
[10:36] <lordievader> No but yes?
[12:38] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[12:39] <lordievader> o/
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon mates
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> hi
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> hello MonkeyDust
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/the-default-wallpapers-of-ubuntu-15-10-wily-werewolf-gallery-493511.shtml
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> willy wallz
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> hi glebihan
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> yowza cfhowlett :p
[13:00] <cfhowlett> hey ^3 lotuspsychje
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> whats the time in china
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> 15h00 here
[13:00] <cfhowlett> 2100 Central China Time
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> belgian sunny weather here
[13:00] <cfhowlett> time for ...
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> IRC!
[13:00] <cfhowlett> coffee and waffles??
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: did the wolf come clean yet?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> indeed
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> !mircspec
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> !mirspec
[13:07] <ubot5`> Details about Mir can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> wow looks pretty complex
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> !paid
[13:11] <ubot5`> If you've purchased software from the Software Centre and are experiencing issues please consult https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pay
[13:11]  * lotuspsychje is browsing new factoids
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> tieinv: afternoon
[13:12] <tieinv> lotuspsychje, morning
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> !upgradeofflts
[13:13] <ubot5`> To upgrade from an LTS release of Ubuntu to the next (non-LTS) release, run sudoedit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change the prompt= line to "prompt=normal". Then, do sudo do-release-upgrade to begin the upgrade.
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> so this would make 14.04 goto 15.04 right?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, nope.  it would try 14.10 but as 14.10 is no longer live, eolupgrade
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> so in wich cases do we need this trigger?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> for those cases when someone requests LTS > next release
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> 16.04 -> 16.10?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> yep
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> cool
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> 12.10 and 14.10 eol so
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> !shellshock
[13:18] <ubot5`> Ubuntu has released security updates for both recent bash vulnerabilities for all currently-supported versions of Ubuntu. Use your preferred package manager to apply all pending updates. See http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/ , http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2363-1/ , and http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2363-2/ for more information.
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: i didnt know your pic shows on a trigger: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=added%20DESC&page=0 female#ubuntu-offtopic
[13:21] <cfhowlett> eh?  give me a tiny url --- that one didn't complete
[13:22] <cfhowlett> ah, found it
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:22] <cfhowlett> oh, see, now, that's just mean ...
[13:22]  * lotuspsychje hides
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> going slow again today
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu is so good, users dont have troubles anymore
[13:35] <lordievader> Let's just believe that is the thing...
[13:35] <cfhowlett> fewer users, more trollers ...
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> soon we will be outa work
[13:38] <lordievader> Meh, don't think so.
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> the 15.10 rush is almost there yayyyy
[13:38] <lordievader> Some people go to great lengths to redifine stupid actions.
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> i didnt have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed and never noticed!
[13:45] <cfhowlett> that's bad?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> that's good, everything worked as it should
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> and your flash works ?
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> like in, youtube.com?
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> yup
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> nice
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> "The HTML5 player is currently used when possible. "
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: afternoon mate
[14:14] <EriC^^> afternoon lotus
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> nice cartoon: Americans all carry a weapon, to defend themselves against people with a weapon
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:42] <Lego_2015> I was referred here. Hi guyz.
[16:43] <Lego_2015> Any body online?
[17:18] <DosTuMai> Question: is my hardware up to spec for running Ubuntu? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1XfDBb8toplNkVzeWpXS1NvMG8
[17:19] <lordievader> DosTuMai: Of course, potatoes are capable of running anything!
[17:20] <lordievader> Potatoes > pies.
[17:20] <DosTuMai> Phew.
[17:21] <DosTuMai> Glad I upgraded the hardware from a lemon.
[17:21] <lordievader> Ah, yeah. Lemons are a bit sour.
[17:22] <DosTuMai> Found the RAM kept breking, too.
[17:22] <DosTuMai> Breaking, also...
[17:23] <lordievader> That is the acid in the lemon it dissolves part of the ram makeing it easier to break..
[17:23] <DosTuMai> Damn you, citric acid. *Fist shake.*
[20:07] <daftykins> hmm this guy saying you can cp an iso to a /dev/sdx sounds interesting
[20:08] <daftykins> would probably make helping make flash drives a lot easier if true
[20:09] <Bashing-om> I done inserted my foot in my mouth this day, I hope 1 is my quota for the day . Let's see if 'cp' will do that ( I do have my doubts !) .
[20:20] <daftykins> yeah i'm a bit hesitant, i'm not on a host system to test right now though
[20:23] <Bashing-om> Human nature to make things more complicated than they are ?
[20:25] <DossieWossieBoo> Pretty much. Doesn't Ubuntu mount .iso files without doing a cp to /dev/sdx?
[20:27] <Bashing-om> DossieWossieBoo: I do it : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-Ubuntu ISOs are designed to allow booting directly from the hard drive using GRUB 2 and eliminates the need for burning a CD/DVD.
[20:29] <DossieWossieBoo> That's pretty much what I do.
[20:29] <daftykins> well that's lovely and all, but not hugely practical for new users
[20:31] <Bashing-om> ^^ a fact. Booting the .iso does take a level of familiarity ( and want to ).
[20:32] <daftykins> definitely would be handy for all those ones we get that want to clean install but don't have a flash drive (somehow) :D
[21:59] <pauljw> bbl... dinnertime
[22:26] <daftykins> can't be long before 15.04's death now, no? January?
[22:28] <daftykins> AndroUser is getting the full teams attention today :)
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Yeah, and making of patience a virtue .
[22:29] <daftykins> TJ-: fwiw i already checked for ~/ file ownership, intel only graphics according to Xorg's log, but i gave up on the sight of PPAs and said just reinstall :D
[22:29] <daftykins> no idea why it boots him, we also tried another user account
[22:29] <daftykins> (freshly made one) though can't be sure that it was made correctly
[22:30] <TJ-> Really? Hmm, I saw mention it is kubuntu using sddm, is that correct?
[22:31] <daftykins> yeah, although he's messed around with switching that to lightdm i think now
[22:31] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12655595/
[22:31] <daftykins> here's a sign of how crufted that install is ;)
[22:34] <TJ-> daftykins: incorrect paths in the sources.list
[22:35] <daftykins> bit annoyed i was lied to about ~/
[22:35] <daftykins> must be the guy didn't know how to 'less' a listing at a TTY
[22:36] <TJ-> Looks like an Android user :)
[22:36] <OerHeks> i wonder why androuser uses alien/rpm, as he has a .rpmdb in his homefolder...
[22:36] <daftykins> probably from another ridiculous installation that goes hand in hand with all those messy PPAs :(
[22:37] <OerHeks> oh, then he should try #kubuntu :-D
[22:37] <daftykins> XD
[22:37] <daftykins> TJ-: how are the huskies today sir?
[22:38] <TJ-> OerHeks: I've had that in the past from breaking source-code out of RPMs
[22:38] <TJ-> Well, they got me round the field in about 20 minutes this afternoon ( Pepper tows me on the bike!) - usually takes 40 minutes
[22:39] <OerHeks> TJ-, there are surely reasons, i just wonder why he uses it. especially with sddm
[22:39] <daftykins> :O
[22:39] <daftykins> they wanted to get home and warm maybe :)
[22:39] <TJ-> Silver has the hump because I'm not letting her on the leather sofa where she keeps making a mess :D
[22:39] <daftykins> hahaha, doggy is denied
[22:39] <daftykins> i was just vacuuming up several spare cats around my place
[22:39] <TJ-> She's a sly one too... the moment we're not looking she sneaks on very quilety
[22:40] <TJ-> Oh, we do that daily the Huskies never stop shedding
[22:42] <TJ-> Errr, daftykins were those messages for this channel :D
[22:42] <daftykins> nah :)
[22:42] <daftykins> i figure even if you get him going, that install is full of cruft
[22:42] <daftykins> but ah well
[23:03] <DossieWossieBoo> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1XfDBb8toplSWcxWE5PZkNCcEE
[23:04] <daftykins> what's this?
[23:04] <DossieWossieBoo> It's a link.
[23:04] <daftykins> you know we usually leave the stupid statements to #ubuntu :)
[23:05] <TJ-> daftykins: I'm keeping at it since I'm interested in the KDE side of things (probably going to start coding for KDE) so I'm trying to get to know it inside-out
[23:05] <DossieWossieBoo> I just thought I'd do something unexpected...
[23:05] <daftykins> TJ-: ah rightyo, good practice then
[23:06] <daftykins> (II) HELPER: Starting: "/usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsession" "gnome-session --session=cairo-dock"
[23:06] <daftykins> o0
[23:07] <daftykins> do i spy a conflict o0
[23:08] <OerHeks> maybe a stupid thought: does that drive contain errors, so it is read only now?
[23:09] <OerHeks> after trying to set a cookie, something stops , see line 133 and on
[23:11] <TJ-> daftykins: Yeah, but the timestamps are WAY in the past
[23:11] <daftykins> ah is it one of those new in the top files o0
[23:11] <TJ-> The last entry is 13:40, the last start attempt was around 18:30
[23:12] <daftykins> he claimed it was an upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04
[23:13] <TJ-> It looks like there may be several DEs installed