[02:26] <Jhon> Hi, is it here where i ask about ubuntu touch?
[08:28] <BlackJohnny> anyone knows how to get xdg_cache_home in ubuntu touch. In a scope this env var is not set :(
[08:28] <BlackJohnny> thanks
[15:15] <Garheade> Howdy all, just getting things up and running on my N4, has anyone tried running alternate browsers on the phone?
[15:17] <Faizan> hi
[15:19] <Faizan> casio gzone ca201l ?
[17:14] <higuita> Hi, my wife needs a new phone and i'm thinking in a bq aquaris e4.5 with ubuntu
[17:16] <higuita> is it usable for day to day phone, sms and mms? and is the camera any good? she likes taking pictures, but most phones work bad in indoor photos
[17:17] <jnxd> higuita: I'm not much satidfied with the camera, my twopenny
[17:17] <higuita> her previous phone was a old symbian phone, so she doesn't know android that help choosing ubuntu
[17:18] <higuita> jnxd: even for outdoor photos?
[17:19] <jnxd> higuita: well, depends on what phone it was, but I guess it'll be better than an old symbian phone
[17:20] <jnxd> I was just upset with if you compare it with other phones with 8 megapixels
[17:20] <jnxd> a casual photographer might not have much to complain about
[17:20] <tathhu> higuita, http://imgur.com/wUtR2KK taken with e4.5
[17:20] <tathhu> dirty laptop, rip
[17:20] <jnxd> I was talking about e5, BTW
[17:21] <tathhu> Yea, it's better
[17:21] <tathhu> Not much but
[17:21] <tathhu> (i've had it too :D)
[17:21] <jnxd> tathhu: wow a collecter, are you?
[17:22] <tathhu> nah :P just stupid
[17:22] <jnxd> how do they both compare?
[17:24] <jnxd> tathhu: also, do you have a Miezu too?
[17:24] <tathhu> E5 was nice with its HD-screen and 16 gigs of storage but I like 4.5 more, IMO 5 inch is too big
[17:24] <tathhu> Nope
[17:24] <tathhu> I had E5, sold it and went back to Jolla.. and here I am :Å
[17:24] <tathhu> *P
[17:25] <tathhu> (should've never sell it, lol)
[17:25] <jnxd> how's jolla?
[17:26] <tathhu> HW sucks, OS is nice x)
[17:26] <jnxd> hmm
[17:27] <tathhu> HW sucks as in I've had too many problems with it
[17:27] <tathhu> Don't know if I could say which is better OS. :D
[17:27] <tathhu> *can
[17:27] <jnxd> higuita: BTW, I'd suggest you go for the e5. It has both a better camera AND a larger memory
[17:28] <tathhu> higuita, where do you live? (get a cover for my 4.5, didn't order same time and shipping is 20€, rrrip)
[17:30] <jnxd> tathhu: is it this one: http://www.snapdeal.com/offers/jolla
[17:30] <jnxd> tathhu: I'd have loved a cover myself, but sadly they didn't ship that to India
[17:31] <tathhu> jnxd, yes and damn
[17:31] <jnxd> tathhu: damn for what?
[17:32] <tathhu> shipping :D
[17:33] <higuita> i thinks that the E5 is too big, jumping from a small nokia to a E5 i thinks is too much for my wife :)
[17:33] <higuita> i'm from Portugal, so i can get bq phones without problems
[17:35] <jnxd> tathhu: didn't get you at the shipping part. If you're trying to ship the cover to india, I guess that's gonna be a nightmare
[17:36] <higuita> i also looked at jolla, it looks nice
[17:36] <jnxd> higuita: are you planning to buy the convergence device too then, when it's available?
[17:36] <higuita> convergence?
[17:37] <jnxd> higuita: tathhu : yeahjolla looks way more refined than Ubuntu, but perhaps a bit more abstract
[17:37] <higuita> ohh, the phone/desktop
[17:37] <jnxd> higuita: yes that one
[17:38] <tathhu> Ubuntu seems to be little
[17:38] <tathhu> umm
[17:38] <tathhu> um
[17:38] <tathhu> stable
[17:38] <higuita> my wife already uses ubuntu that would be a plus... but that one i will have to check how it really works and how useful it really is :)
[17:38] <tathhu> No random UI-crashes :P And I like ambiances but when screen is so bad that you can't use it outside..
[17:39] <tathhu> meh, there's duo-cover in uk-amazon but ofc no shipping to finland :P
[17:40] <jnxd> tathhu: umm, if ubuntu is stable, then I guess jolla has quite a road ahead of it
[17:41] <tathhu> jnxd, i've had less problems with this than with my jolla :(
[17:42] <jnxd> well, I've got no jola to compare, so...
[17:42] <tathhu> :P
[17:42] <jnxd> when did you buy iy, and when was it realeased?
[17:43] <jnxd> it seems slightly older with the specs to price ratio
[17:43] <tathhu> released 11/2013(?) bought feb 2014
[17:47] <jnxd> there's this coming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_WgfGwBZto
[17:48] <jnxd> tathhu: ^
[17:49] <tathhu> yeb
[17:49] <tathhu> isn't that just Jolla phone :P
[17:50] <tathhu> might get another ubuntuphone with better specs... don't know when, lol.
[17:50] <jnxd> tathhu: apparently it'll be a newer version with a different manufacturer, though I don't know if it was the same earlier
[17:51] <jnxd> tathhu: well, you only have meizu for now, though they did put up a "more devices coming soon" banner on their page.
[17:52] <jnxd> tathhu: Jolla's no touch policy seems very much like ubuntu's own. any comments?
[17:52] <tathhu> well  i've had 4.5 for a day :P
[17:52] <tathhu> no touch?
[17:53] <jnxd> *no button
[17:53] <tathhu> ahhh
[17:55] <tathhu> well i like swipes :P
[17:55] <jnxd> tathhu: the camera app seems far more bloated. maybe it'll be more featureful than ubuntu, but I like the latter's simplicity.
[17:55] <jnxd> tathhu: KDE vs GNOME all over again :D
[17:55] <tathhu> what's the difference between rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en and en-proposed? :o
[17:56] <tathhu> bbbut when you open it there's only one button :P
[17:56] <jnxd> I'd guess en-proposed is for the reference nexus device
[17:56] <jnxd> open what? ubuntu phone or jolla?
[17:56] <tathhu> jollas camera app
[17:56] <tathhu> *auaris.en-proposed
[17:57] <jnxd> tathhu: no clue
[17:59] <jnxd> tathhu: If I have to go through 2-3 screens to switch cameras, I'm going for Ubuntu
[17:59] <jnxd> tathhu: same goes for accessing photos
[18:25] <dragos> hi guys i have a really inportant questipn
[18:25] <dragos> hi guys i have a really inportant question
[18:42] <higuita> dragos: just ask :)
[18:43] <dragos> can someone make ubuntu touch for s3 mini?
[19:21] <tathhu> well, flashed just aquaris.en :o