[00:00] <uriel11> Yes I know
[00:00] <dlam> hey how do i practice/test restoring a backup from the settings menu?   like copy its "storage location" folder to another computer and try restoring it from it?
[00:01] <netcrash> daftykins: I have 100% usage of the /boot don't understand why
[00:01] <daftykins> netcrash: from 'df -h' ?
[00:01] <daftykins> !pm
[00:02] <uriel11> thank you tips
[00:02] <RepThis1> Hey guys, i wanted trying to compile a program from source so i followed the ubuntu documentation. What i am curious about is after it has been installed running this newer command sudo checkinstall. At the end it says  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643047/ so if  i want to uninstall the program from my ubuntu system i just run that command?
[00:02] <netcrash> daftykins: I won't have space for all those kernels...
[00:03] <daftykins> netcrash: well you deleted something, so if you show me a "df -h" in http://paste.ubuntu.com ...
[00:04] <Hulio> it's funny how a lady at my work (white american ) always looking at my source code and learn from it
[00:04] <RepThis1> What if instead of running dpkg -r wol , i ran rm /home/ltop/Downloads/wol-0.7.1/wol_0.7.1-1_amd64.deb
[00:04] <Hulio> she's been there for 5 years and weak as shlt
[00:04] <netcrash> daftykins: I deleted but much time before ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643077//
[00:04] <daftykins> RepThis1: then you deleted a package and nothing else.
[00:05] <RepThis1> daftykins: i dont know how the older make install works, but why would i need the .deb for them? i already have it installed.
[00:05] <daftykins> netcrash: and which are you booted into right now? -58? ("uname -r")
[00:05] <daftykins> RepThis1: you tell me why you have a .deb manually downloaded :) i can't read your mind sadly
[00:05] <netcrash> daftykins: 3.13.0-58-generic
[00:06] <RepThis1> daftykins: sudo checkinstall created the .deb didnt it?
[00:06] <daftykins> netcrash: are you booting EFI or not? because you have /boot/efi on another disk
[00:07] <netcrash> daftykins: my windows uses efi :S
[00:07] <daftykins> !efi | netcrash check if your ubuntu is booting with EFI too
[00:08] <daftykins> RepThis1: yeah so you generated the package, then it's telling you you can remove the installed program with 'dpkg -r wol' - the .deb is only needed if you want to install it again - i don't see what's confusing? :)
[00:09] <netcrash> daftykins: my linux only boots when I have uefi enabled in the bios
[00:10] <daftykins> the above link has a nice easy way to confirm, take a glance
[00:10] <RepThis1> daftykins: I was wondering if there was some special reason it created a .deb because if i were to take this to some other machine what if it needed to compile aswell and has unmet dependencies
[00:10] <daftykins> RepThis1: .deb's do not need compiling.
[00:11] <daftykins> RepThis1: i'm sure you would've been better off looking for a program in the repos rather than compiling anyway.
[00:11] <RepThis1> daftykins: they install easily onto any debian distribution ?
[00:12] <RepThis1> daftykins: apt-cache showed nothing about wol
[00:12] <daftykins> nobody said any.
[00:12] <daftykins> well yeah but maybe 'wol' was a bad search parameter
[00:12] <daftykins> there might not be a package with that in the name or description
[00:13] <RepThis1> daftykins: so the distribution  compiled on then
[00:13] <daftykins> dunno.
[00:14] <RepThis1> daftykins: what is another way you would have looked for the package then?
[00:14] <netcrash> daftykins: [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD"
[00:14] <daftykins> your favourite search engine / packages.ubuntu.com
[00:14] <netcrash> daftykins: EFI boot on HDD
[00:14] <RepThis1> daftykins: i remember awhile ago some looked like they were using a website.
[00:15] <daftykins> netcrash: mmm, so what's in /boot/efi ?
[00:15] <TorK> hello, does anyone know if logitech unifying receiver and SetPoint can be used in ubuntu 14? I have a Logitech wireless solar keyboard K750 and a Logitech anywhere mouse MX that I need to know if will work with linux because I am thinking of buying the intel compute stick with ubuntu 14 because it's on sale now and I really want to check it out.
[00:16] <daftykins> that's not really an ubuntu question so much as a hardware question to do with intel's stick
[00:16] <TorK> (I have zero experience with linux)
[00:16] <newb123> Hi, I'm using XDMCP and lightdm on a headless VM. Everytime I try to login, it punts me back out to the greeter screen. I can't seem to make out anything useful from the logs. Any suggestions?
[00:16] <shamuraix_89> TorK: Used to be you needed to pair them on windows first then they would work fine. But I think there is a utility now for it.
[00:16] <netcrash> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643243/
[00:16] <daftykins> newb123: check ~/ for files not owned by your user
[00:17] <TorK> hmmm ok
[00:17] <daftykins> netcrash: and "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" ?
[00:17] <newb123> daftykins: all files owned by user
[00:18] <daftykins> newb123: sure? next up is reading lightdm's log then
[00:18] <netcrash> daftykins: crying ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643275/
[00:19] <daftykins> netcrash: hmm, what a mess. "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-extra-3.13.0-62-generic linux-image-3.13.0-62-generic"
[00:19] <daftykins> back shortly, need my mains adapter
[00:21] <netcrash> daftykins: done
[00:21] <netcrash> daftykins: gained 5MB
[00:23] <EriC^^> netcrash: type uname -r
[00:23] <daftykins> -58 in use, EriC^^
[00:23] <daftykins> EFI boot but somehow the space isn't getting reclaimed :)
[00:23] <netcrash> EriC^^: 3.13.0-58-generic
[00:23] <newb123> daftykins: I've been looking at the logs. But I just seem to get a GBus error. http://pastebin.com/XQdgGjvU
[00:24] <TorK> tnx ppl, bbl
[00:24] <netcrash> EriC^^: daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643369/
[00:24] <daftykins> newb123: 'got 1 message from PAM' perhaps your pass entry failed
[00:25] <daftykins> netcrash: aaah you moved them all to the trash :P
[00:25] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ lost+found says 12k
[00:25] <daftykins> netcrash: sudo ls /boot/.Trash-0 <--that might be the folder, use tab complete
[00:25] <newb123> daftykins: hmm I'm logging from a FreeBSD machine using Xnest xdmcp to an ubuntu VM. The password is right though as it authenticates in the section before the pastebin snippet.
[00:26] <daftykins> newb123: ah well too exotic for me, GUI on a VM through that? blech :)
[00:27] <newb123> daftykins: thanks.. i really dislike how the logs are so obscure and unhelpful in this case
[00:27] <daftykins> i don't see what logs are relevant
[00:27] <daftykins> you hit delete, they got deleted :) but you must've done it graphically so they ended up in the trash
[00:27] <netcrash> daftykins: hum... can't remember now
[00:28] <daftykins> ah well, once you move them back can you show another "ls -al /boot" ?
[00:28] <netcrash> daftykins: should I just delete .Trash-0 ?
[00:28] <netcrash> ls -l 2
[00:28] <daftykins> nah move the contents back to /boot
[00:28] <caden> HELOOJHSDGFJDSGFGFJHFGUJFGUJHSGFSDFGGJSGFASDGFJKSGFGJKSDFGJSGFSGFGKSGFSGFJKSDGFSDGFUSDGFJSDGFUHSDFUSDGFUSDGFDSGFJKSDFUASDFGJASDGFRAGRFASFGUJSHFJSDFHJKSDFJDGHSDHGJDGSDHGHFUIFGKJASDJKGBFDHGDHGDFGDHGKJHGDFKHGDFKGHFGHSDGHKEFHGKSDFHGKJHGGHEDAHIFGHDGKGHJHKGHSDF
[00:29] <EriC^^> netcrash: can you pastebin df -hT ?
[00:29] <caden> RASPBERRYPI!!!
[00:29] <caden> actually idk XD
[00:29] <EriC^^> i think your /boot is a vfat or something, it shouldn't have a .Trash-0
[00:29] <daftykins> caden: please ask a support question or /part
[00:29] <caden> meh thing is crashing...
[00:29] <caden> LAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGG
[00:30] <daftykins> caden: STOP.
[00:30] <caden> raspberrypi not designed 4 this stuff
[00:30] <daftykins> then leave
[00:30] <netcrash> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643456/
[00:30] <caden> now working i colsed some things
[00:30] <caden> closed
[00:30] <bazhang> #raspbian caden
[00:31] <caden> actually i have ubuntu mate on pi
[00:31] <daftykins> #ubuntu-arm
[00:31] <caden> many problems at first
[00:31] <bazhang> ask in the arm channel caden
[00:31] <caden> it is fine
[00:31] <caden> they r fixed
[00:31] <EriC^^> netcrash: ok, nevermind
[00:32] <caden> it is hard since only 4gb ssd (microsdhc)
[00:32] <bazhang> caden, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat NOT here
[00:32] <daftykins> what an idiot
[00:33] <ratrace> the idiot's back
[00:33] <daftykins> netcrash: did you move them back? can you "ls -al /boot" again?
[00:33] <caden> i forgot whats the # for arm
[00:33] <netcrash> daftykins: I moved them back
[00:33] <bazhang> #ubuntu-arm caden
[00:33] <caden> thx
[00:34] <netcrash> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643491/
[00:35] <daftykins> netcrash: have you at some point installed again beside an old installation?
[00:35] <daftykins> EriC^^: i've got no idea how the above files can all remain when http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643275/ is the installed package list
[00:36] <netcrash> daftykins: I installed ubuntu-mate desktop a while back on top of ubuntu
[00:36] <caden__> my thing says no such channel as #ubuntu-arm
[00:36] <daftykins> netcrash: ah ok, so the /boot didn't get cleared
[00:36] <EriC^^> he must have deleted them before he ran autoremove or something
[00:36] <netcrash> daftykins: probably not
[00:37] <EriC^^> netcrash: try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{32..57}-generic
[00:37] <daftykins> i reckon there'll be none found, hmm
[00:37] <caden__> anyone know how to resize root partition to use unused disk space?
[00:38] <netcrash> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643538/
[00:38] <tonyyarusso> caden__: Yes, but how easy it is depends on exactly what you have.
[00:38] <caden__> it is only 4gb ssd sdhc card (raspberrypi 2 b)
[00:39] <daftykins> netcrash: mmm i guess that means doesn't exist... ok make a little space by "sudo mkdir /oldboot && sudo mv vmlinuz-3.13.0-3* /oldboot/
[00:39] <caden__> i looked and there is unformatted space
[00:39] <tonyyarusso> caden__: Is there only ONE partition on it currently?
[00:39] <daftykins> netcrash: after the above, how much free space is there now from "df -h" ?
[00:39] <caden__> looking...
[00:39] <daftykins> caden__: those are not SSDs.
[00:40] <netcrash> daftykins: /dev/sdc2                    237M  197M   28M  88% /boot
[00:40] <caden__> there r 2 partitions PI_BOOT (/boot) and PI_ROOT (/)
[00:41] <daftykins> netcrash: ok and "sudo mv vmlinuz-3.13.0-52-generic vmlinuz-3.13.0-55-generic vmlinuz-3.13.0-57-generic /oldboot"
[00:41] <netcrash> daftykins: /dev/sdc2                    237M  180M   45M  81% /boot
[00:41] <tonyyarusso> caden__: What order are they in?  If the one you want to increase is last, you're good, but if it's first, you can't do it.
[00:42] <netcrash> daftykins: 33K     .Trash-0/
[00:42] <tonyyarusso> caden__: Pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc'
[00:42] <daftykins> netcrash: ok and i think your problems began updating, so if you now run "sudo apt-get -f install" and share it via http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:42] <caden__> kk
[00:43] <caden__> i have a utility that can show me my partitions and their order just so u know
[00:43] <netcrash> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643599/
[00:43] <caden__> this is what happened sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[00:43] <caden__> oops
[00:44] <caden__> this is what REALLY happened
[00:44] <caden__> fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdc: No such file or directory
[00:44] <dwade0990> Hello, I need some help, I am helping jreed with trying to see if his hard drive is okay or not, when He does the SMART test it shows failed but under the SMART Attributes everything shows ok, any way he can get an actual test to see if his hard drive is failing?
[00:44] <daftykins> netcrash: is it trying to install those?
[00:44] <tonyyarusso> caden__: Sorry, I got confused by netcrash - do it with the proper device name for your SD card.
[00:45] <netcrash> daftykins: REMOVIDOS means removed
[00:45] <caden__> how do i find that
[00:45] <netcrash> daftykins: it's trying to remove them
[00:45] <netcrash> daftykins: should I say yes?
[00:45] <daftykins> netcrash: ok, yeah
[00:45] <wileee> dwade0990, smart can be run on a live, and backups as well.
[00:45] <tonyyarusso> caden__: 'mount' will show you, among other things.
[00:45] <caden__> thx
[00:46] <dwade0990> wileee jreed is running on live right now
[00:46] <wileee> dwade0990, take a look here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools not sure where you all are att.
[00:47] <daftykins> dwade0990: let us see the smartctl -a /dev/sdX output for ourselves
[00:48] <dwade0990> daftykins can you tell jreed how to do that?
[00:48] <daftykins> why are we helping via you anyway?
[00:48] <caden__> tonyyarusso: it says that it is a directory. the part. is mounted in / because it is root part.
[00:48] <daftykins> jreed: sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[00:48] <dwade0990> daftykins because jreed is new to this and doesn't know anything about ubuntu
[00:49] <caden__> im new as well
[00:49] <daftykins> dwade0990: right but usually we help people directly not through proxies :P
[00:49] <caden__> XD
[00:49] <dwade0990> daftykins hes not on proxy hes right here im on xbox live with him.
[00:49] <caden__> lol
[00:50] <daftykins> dwade0990: no, you're the proxy - *ugh*
[00:50] <b4b> is there a way to move the launcher bar to the bottom of the screen?
[00:50] <tonyyarusso> caden__: I'm not sure what you mean there, but you need a device name that usually looks like /dev/sd[0-9].
[00:50] <caden__> ...
[00:50] <wileee> b4b, Unity the left bar no.
[00:50] <netcrash> daftykins: it failed and now I have 0% disk available again on /boot
[00:50] <b4b> really
[00:50] <daftykins> netcrash: hmm ok and a fresh "ls -ahl /boot" ?
[00:51] <wileee> b4b, There was a hack about 3 years ago, there are docks that are nice, you can lock up the left a bit more.
[00:51] <netcrash> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643702/
[00:52] <b4b> ok so there are other docks i can get and remov this one
[00:52] <daftykins> netcrash: can you share what the last command did too?
[00:52] <b4b> besides that ubuntu is pretty pro and im biased againt xwindows
[00:53] <netcrash> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643723/
[00:53] <netcrash> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643723/
[00:53] <caden__> ok finnaly found my drive info w/ my utility heres the output: caden@cadens-pi2:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0p2
[00:53] <caden__> Disk /dev/mmcblk0p2: 3.6 GiB, 3864002560 bytes, 7546880 sectors
[00:53] <caden__> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[00:53] <caden__> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[00:53] <caden__> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[00:54] <daftykins> !paste | caden__
[00:54] <jreed> daftykins... when tried it said invalid operation istall
[00:54] <caden__> srry not too familiar w/ things like this :)
[00:55] <daftykins> jreed: try again, you may've typo'd... "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools"
[00:55] <caden__> heres the paste link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643734/
[00:55] <tonyyarusso> caden__: You need the full device, not the partition.
[00:56] <caden__> ?
[00:56] <caden__> how do i get it?
[00:56] <daftykins> netcrash: and another "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" please
[00:57] <netcrash> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643752/
[00:58] <EriC^^> netcrash: try LANG=C sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic
[00:59] <netcrash> EriC^^: daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643768/
[01:00] <EriC^^> ok, LANG=C sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.13.0-{32..51}-generic
[01:00] <daftykins> ah har i see what you've got there :>
[01:00] <daftykins> jreed: so...?
[01:01] <netcrash> EriC^^: what does this mean ?
[01:01] <moefo> help! :p
[01:01] <daftykins> it's purging your old useless kernels
[01:01] <daftykins> moefo: ask a question first
[01:01] <b4b> oh thank goodness for cairo dock
[01:01] <moefo> theres a video plugin client .exe
[01:01] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ it ended
[01:01] <moefo> but its for chrome not chromium
[01:01] <b4b> now gotta figure out to remove the side bar
[01:01] <moefo> how can i fix that to work on chromium
[01:01] <daftykins> netcrash: what's the free space on /boot now?
[01:01] <EriC^^> netcrash: try dpkg -l | grep linux-image again
[01:01] <jreed> daftykins.. i put it in its running through right now
[01:02] <moefo> hi erebus^
[01:02] <moefo> EriC^^, *
[01:02] <daftykins> moefo: probably can't.
[01:02] <lilmoe> any idea on a solution ?
[01:02] <EriC^^> hi
[01:02] <caden__> tony i made a screenshot of my utility so heres a link: http://imgur.com/VwZh3Mu
[01:02] <daftykins> lilmoe: install google chrome? :P
[01:02] <netcrash> EriC^^: daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643801/
[01:02] <caden__> :P
[01:02] <lilmoe> should i remove chromium a nd install chrome?
[01:03] <lilmoe> or both ?
[01:03] <lilmoe> :p
[01:03] <caden__> chrome be better
[01:03] <ratrace> lilmoe: .exe?
[01:03] <lilmoe> yeah
[01:03] <daftykins> lilmoe: i think they can co-exist
[01:03] <ratrace> lilmoe: windows .exe?
[01:03] <lilmoe> yes
[01:03] <caden__> dunno
[01:03] <daftykins> what is this 'plugin' ?
[01:03] <ratrace> lilmoe: this is #ubuntu
[01:03] <lilmoe> sir
[01:03] <ratrace> madam
[01:03] <lilmoe> I'm on ubuntu.
[01:03] <lilmoe> im a sir :P
[01:03] <b4b> ahh now we're cookin
[01:04] <EriC^^> netcrash: LANG=C sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.13.0-{32..49}-generic
[01:04] <daftykins> b4b: we don't need the commentary unless you're replying to someone, thanks.
[01:04] <lilmoe> ok lemme re-explain
[01:04] <ratrace> lilmoe: windows .exe ain't gonna work on ubuntu like that
[01:04] <EriC^^> netcrash: also df -h  /boot
[01:04] <caden__> this is 4 srs help not 4 chitchat guyz
[01:04] <lilmoe> I know..
[01:04] <lilmoe> I have a ip camera in the house
[01:04] <daftykins> lilmoe: no just tell us what the plugin is for...
[01:04] <lilmoe> cctv cam
[01:04] <lilmoe> VideoClient_Plugin.exe
[01:04] <lilmoe> is needed
[01:04] <daftykins> ok that's not going to work then
[01:04] <caden__> cctv r huge
[01:04] <daftykins> windows only.
[01:04] <ratrace> that sounds like a trojan too
[01:05] <lilmoe> Then how can i view the cams?
[01:05] <lilmoe> :p
[01:05] <lilmoe> Ima try chrome
[01:05] <daftykins> from a Windows VM.
[01:05] <netcrash> EriC^^: daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643818/
[01:06] <b4b> is there a way to remove that cairo dock fade affect when moving over icons?
[01:06] <caden__> google chrome is the best
[01:06] <caden__> but theres no apt-get command 4 it tho
[01:06] <daftykins> there technically is
[01:06] <caden__> i couldnt find it
[01:06] <lilmoe> i like daftykins thinkin
[01:06] <daftykins> that's because it's in Google's PPA
[01:07] <caden__> tonyyasauro im going to leave if u dont respond 0_0
[01:07] <b4b> no offense but linux dudes are terrible at design and user experience
[01:07] <caden__> its fine
[01:07] <caden__> i have mac and windows computer
[01:08] <lilmoe> and you're in ubuntu chan
[01:08] <lilmoe> :P
[01:08] <caden__> im in here because i need help with my ubuntu computer
[01:08] <caden__> i have 1
[01:08] <caden__> :P
[01:08] <daftykins> stop the general chat thanks guys, it's support only.
[01:09] <jreed> daftykins...http://pastebin.com/uzwsV356
[01:09] <caden__> im here 4 suppourt but nobody respond
[01:09] <daftykins> i saw someone helping you before so that sounds like a lie
[01:09] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ you gave up : :( ?
[01:09] <ratrace> yup
[01:09] <caden__> it looks like hes gone but im looking in the list and hes still here :P
[01:09] <lilmoe> tyvm everyone
[01:09] <lilmoe> bye
[01:09] <daftykins> jreed: your disc is an old 13.10 version, you can't use that - come back on a live session of 14.04 please.
[01:10] <jalapegno>  hi!
[01:10] <daftykins> caden__: all this for 31.5MB? does it really matter?
[01:10] <caden__> hi
[01:11] <caden__> theres so little left )_)
[01:11] <sangloupmon> hi
[01:11] <caden__> hi
[01:11] <SANG> HI
[01:11] <daftykins> caden__: buy a new card, they cost nothing
[01:12] <caden__> HEWO
[01:12] <Thorax> Anyone know if its possible to choose a DE when installing ubuntu?
[01:12] <caden__> idk
[01:12] <daftykins> Thorax: ideally you get the ISO of the version you want from the beginning
[01:12] <Thorax> daftykins, ahh, i havent been able to find any
[01:12] <daftykins> netcrash: can you "sudo apt-get purge linux-image* " ?
[01:12] <Thorax> Can you not use the netinstall version and choose with that?
[01:13] <dwade0990> daftykins it is no lie, i am helping him we are friends on xbox live and i told him about ubuntu and irc today he is new to all of this so i am trying to help him he just went to get a new blank dvd to get that 14.04
[01:13] <caden__> i dont know COLOR
[01:13] <daftykins> Thorax: which do you want?
[01:13] <Thorax> Cinnamon
[01:13] <caden__> cinnamon
[01:13] <EriC^^> netcrash: slap a LANG=C before sudo please :)
[01:13] <daftykins> dwade0990: my line about lie was to another user, i think you're confused - now your friend is trying to use a saucy disc, so please help them get 14.04.
[01:14] <daftykins> Thorax: ok i don't think any ISOs come with that, so yeah try starting with a mini.iso of 14.04.3 or 15.04, whichever you want to run
[01:14] <caden__> IN 5 SECONDS SPAM CINNAMON!!!!
[01:14] <daftykins> !mini
[01:14] <caden__> CINNAMON
[01:14] <caden__> CINNAMON
[01:14] <daftykins> caden__: stop that and leave, please.
[01:14] <Thorax> The mini iso gives you the choice ?
[01:14] <daftykins> Thorax: it would let you install a command line base so then you could install whichever packages you want.
[01:15] <caden__> lol had 2do it
[01:15] <Thorax> awesome, cheers daftykins
[01:15] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ this is a lot of info
[01:15] <Thorax> nice one bazhang
[01:15] <dwade0990> daftykins yeah hes working on that and sorry, yeah I was kind of elsewhere. basically daftykins when he starts his laptop up it doesn't want to boot at all and when he runs ubuntu live cd it runs fine but when he tries to install ubuntu it says failed due to disk errors
[01:15] <daftykins> dwade0990: yeah ok, well we'll see what we can see once the time comes
[01:17] <dwade0990> I appreciate your help daftykins. basically daftykins when he ran Smart this is the exact same thing that came up with him http://askubuntu.com/questions/221477/smart-data-self-test-failed
[01:17] <netcrash> EriC^^: daftykins just the last part http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643898/
[01:17] <daftykins> dwade0990: i know, i have diagnosed possibly 50+ disk failures in here - i need to see the SMART data for myself... until then, i can do nothing
[01:18] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ I have freed 81MB in /boot
[01:18] <daftykins> netcrash: new "dpkg -l | grep linx-image" please
[01:18] <EriC^^> yay!
[01:19] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643914/
[01:19] <maxtimbo> So I just got this NIC card (TP-Link TF-WN881ND which runs the ath9k kernel driver) but my password keeps getting forgotten. If I try to connect via the drop down menu, I get an error. I have to go to edit connections and put the password in that way. How can I fix this? (I have already attempted network-manager purge and reinstall. Did nothing to change the behavior.)
[01:20] <daftykins> netcrash: that's looking far more manageable, "ls -ahl /boot" ?
[01:20] <maxtimbo> (Ubuntu 15.04 64bit, if that helps with anything)
[01:21] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643922/
[01:22] <daftykins> netcrash: ok "cd /boot && sudo mv abi* config* initrd* System.map* /oldboot"
[01:22] <jreed> daftykins....im downloading it now itll take me about 45mins
[01:22] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ done
[01:22] <daftykins> jreed: ok
[01:22] <daftykins> netcrash: plenty free space on /boot now?
[01:22] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ daftykins
[01:22] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ 213MB
[01:22] <daftykins> woohoo
[01:23] <netcrash> :D
[01:23] <malvidx> im using backbox but cant seem to get sound to work. could anyone help?
[01:23] <daftykins> netcrash: ok now run "LANG=C sudo apt-get -f install" (but don't say yes)
[01:23] <daftykins> malvidx: no this is ubuntu support, no backbox
[01:23] <daftykins> !backbox
[01:23] <raglertest> malvidx: try whitebox
[01:23] <malvidx> ok thanks
[01:24] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643947/
[01:24] <daftykins> netcrash: cool, now "lang=C sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic" which should install linux-image-3.13.0-65-generic ?
[01:26] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12643960/
[01:26] <netcrash> daftykins: can I say yes?
[01:26] <daftykins> netcrash: yep
[01:28] <netcrash> daftykins: 6m
[01:28] <EriC^^> not yet
[01:28] <netcrash> EriC^^: already did
[01:28] <EriC^^> ok np
[01:34] <EriC^^> !cookie | daftykins
[01:36] <netcrash> daftykins: EriC^^ it was installed
[01:37] <netcrash> daftykins: thank you for your help
[01:37] <netcrash> EriC^^: thank you for your help
[01:37] <daftykins> np, see if your boot works!
[01:37] <daftykins> EriC^^: ^5 go team!
[01:37] <netcrash> he he
[01:37] <netcrash> cya later
[01:40] <netcrash> EriC^^: daftykins it worked and booted faster then the other times
[01:41] <raglertest> Russia is bombing mosques the favorite meeting places for isil is and isis . What ever Obama calls his terrorist friends for the day.
[01:42] <raglertest> Putin gave usa 2 hours to leave syria. I think Obama did irreversible damage funding terrorists
[01:42] <daftykins> raglertest: take that chat elsewhere please
[01:42] <nicomachus> !ot
[02:01] <highdivr> |-}
[02:15] <jreed> daftykins... fixing to load up on 14.04
[02:28] <maxtimbo> So I just got this NIC card (TP-Link TF-WN881ND which runs the ath9k kernel driver) but my password keeps getting forgotten. If I try to connect via the drop down menu, I get an error. I have to go to edit connections and put the password in that way. How can I fix this? (I have already attempted network-manager purge and reinstall. Did nothing to change the behavior.)
[02:28] <jreed> daftykins.... im in and on 14.04
[02:30] <Conna> hi
[02:30] <dlam> doh i upgraded 14.04 -> 14.10  and i get a black screen on boot!  any ideas?  i think it might be that i had nvidia drivers before
[02:31] <Ben64> dlam: boot in text mode and do the upgrade to 15.04, 14.10 is not supported
[02:31] <Conna> update your driver nvidia
[02:31] <jreed> daftykins...http://pastebin.com/r0wHA8sP
[02:31] <daftykins> jreed: *pastebinit
[02:32] <dlam> Ben64: ohh ok time to 'do-release-upgrade -d again'
[02:33] <Ben64> dlam: have to do an EOL upgrade now since 14.10 isn't supported
[02:34] <jreed> daftykins... my fault will fix
[02:36] <Bashing-om> dlam: Ben64 Last I was aware (recent) the 14.10 repo was still online. // No on the -d option .. as that is "development" , 14.04 is released .
[02:39] <Ben64> Bashing-om: 14.10 went eol in july
[02:45] <jreed> daftykins... its done
[02:47] <daftykins> jreed: it should've given you a link to paste here
[02:50] <jreed> daftykins.... this is what popped up.http://pastebin.com/XN393xD7
[02:51] <daftykins> jreed: just hit the defaults for all of that, then eventually it'll run the other command and create a link
[02:53] <jreed> daftykins.. how do i hit the defaults it does not  really let me do anything
[02:53] <dabba> hi
[02:54] <daftykins> jreed: hitting enter?
[02:54] <dabba> hows you all
[02:54] <daftykins> dabba: support only please, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:54] <dabba> oki
[02:54] <dabba> dafty
[02:55] <dabba> i am having serious issues installing ubuntu
[02:55] <jreed> daftykins... did that and nothing
[02:55] <daftykins> jreed: cursor up and down in it, it looks like what should be a blue screen thing asking questions
[02:56] <dabba> I have  a machine whih has windows 8.1 preinstalled
[02:56] <daftykins> dabba: ask with details on one line, what did you try... what did you expect... what happened?
[02:57] <dabba> I tried to make a live usb,but cannot boot from usb during startup,The machine has 8.1 windows preinstalled
[02:58] <daftykins> dabba: what did you make the flash drive up with?
[02:58] <daftykins> jreed: still stuck? screenshot the desktop with the print screen key then upload to imgur.com to show me what's up
[02:58] <dabba> I tried with rufus, and ubuntu 15.04
[02:58] <elosz> hello. I've file A with mode 666.I close that file. I now create a file B with mode 666. Now again I open file A with mode 0 (since am not creating it). Then I rename file B to A. WHy does file A now have permission 644?
[02:59] <daftykins> dabba: ok, what type of system is this? what brand? and laptop?
[02:59] <daftykins> elosz: its' permissions don't change from when it was B.
[02:59] <dabba> Its an asus F200m
[03:00] <elosz> daftykins: didn't get you
[03:00] <elosz> all files had mode 666 but on rename, it got 644
[03:00] <daftykins> dabba: ok enter the BIOS with F2, then look around for options fast boot + secure boot to disable, this might allow the flash drive to boot then. F12 usually gives a boot menu on asus'
[03:00] <daftykins> elosz: oh well, don't see that it matters if you can change it.
[03:01] <jreed> daftykins... yeah still nothing it did scroll and this is the rest of what it said. the only deliverd mail is for locl users. there is no network
[03:01] <elosz> daftykins: i don't want it to be changed..if A had 666, i want it to end up with 666 only on rename
[03:01] <daftykins> jreed: yeah you need to pick an option likely, local delivery only is fine, just anything to get it to close :P
[03:01] <daftykins> elosz: ok well your example needs some evidence in a pastebin perhaps :)
[03:02] <dabba> Hang on
[03:02] <elosz> daftykins: what do i paste?
[03:04] <daftykins> examples of your issue, how about an "ls -l" before each of your commands
[03:04] <elosz> daftykins: i am doing that using C code
[03:04] <cfhowlett> elosz, perhaps you should ##c
[03:05] <daftykins> elosz: then your query has no relevance to this channel :)
[03:05] <cfhowlett> ... much more eloquent than the way I phrased it, daftykins           :)
[03:05] <daftykins> ;)
[03:06] <elosz>  [22:58] <jack_rabbit> That's a question for whatever OS you're running on, not a question for C.
[03:06] <elosz> :|
[03:06] <jreed> daftykins... yeah im tellin u its not doing anything but showing that page and ive tried just about everything i can think of
[03:06] <daftykins> jreed: so where's the screenshot?
[03:06] <bew> Does anyone know anything about ssh key passwords? I can't remember the password for an ssh key, but Ubuntu seems to be able to unlock it, so I'm hoping there's some way I can change the password.
[03:06] <daftykins> jreed: maybe just open up another terminal and try "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" there
[03:12] <dabba> Same boot issues
[03:12] <dabba> logged back into windows
[03:14] <daftykins> dabba: in the BIOS, check the boot/exit pages for 'boot override' options, they should list the USB drive twice... once with EFI beside and once without - pick the EFI one
[03:15] <dabba> oki
[03:17] <jasonj8> elosz, try running the program with strace. It will spit out a log of the system calls that are being made and you can maybe figure out what it's doing.
[03:18] <daftykins> jasonj8: best not to enable it in the wrong channel though
[03:18] <elosz> okay jasonj8
[03:20] <jasonj8> daftykins, things like file permissions are an operating system issue... just as much (or even more so) than "why isn't my sound card working?"
[03:20] <daftykins> jasonj8: no, not since this person is deving a program to do it - it belongs in a dev channel.
[03:22] <aizin> hi whatsapp aizin now 24 hour 0194653109
[03:22] <cfhowlett> aizin, no spam!
[03:23] <`ryban> hi
[03:23] <jreed> daftykins....http://pastebin.com/hGW5Ez89
[03:24] <daftykins> jreed: no, if this is the second terminal window - you just run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" in this one.
[03:25] <jreed> daftykins.. ok will do
[03:29] <Guest64566> is dpkg -l listing all installed packages or all packages that /var/lib/dpkg/status has in it so purged or other types not what is currently installed on machine? just curious
[03:31] <jreed> daftykins..http://pastebin.com/Z94Q5Hcx
[03:31] <Guest64566> I mean i guess i could show status of any package to and filter that way but was curious of to things away to list only currently installed packages and the other way to list all the packages / history to see what was uninstalled or other things i think the /var/log/dpkg.log would answer the second thing but was just double checking on the first only installed packages
[03:34] <daftykins> jreed: alright, whatever is happening in the other terminal is holding this up... go back to it and try hitting ctrl+c, it should quite out
[03:34] <daftykins> then re-run "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit"
[03:34] <daftykins> i don't know what's going wrong in the way you're seeing it, but it should be very easy to install
[03:38] <mozzarella> guys remind me, when will unity 8 be the default, again?
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> mozzarella: maybe this can help? http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8
[03:46] <dwade0990> daftykins can jreed just do the sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit then do the other stuff after
[03:47] <daftykins> dwade0990: that's what we've been trying for the last $long_time but apparently he's getting stuck on the installation because a mail configuration window opens which needs an option picking
[03:47] <kernix> how do i change the colour of the text on a text based ubuntu os ?
[03:48] <OmEgA010> i have to "sudo insmod 8192eu.ko" to use wifi. Can it somehow be done on startup?
[03:48] <daftykins> OmEgA010: but 8192eu in /etc/modules
[03:50] <dwade0990> daftykins http://picpaste.com/imagejpeg_0-2hetAjLG.jpg
[03:50] <daftykins> yeah so run it, heh
[03:51] <dwade0990> daftykins where does he type the sudo dpkg before the apt-get install or ?
[03:52] <daftykins> see what it says there? "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:52] <Canon> helo all
[03:55] <elosz> daftykins: i figured out the problem. Whenever i create file with mode 666, umask of directory where i created file (022) caused it to change permission to 644
[03:57] <Trinity> does abiword have a horizontal rule?
[03:58] <OmEgA010> i tried to put my interface to monitor mode by "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode Monitor" but it returns "SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.". How do i put my card into monitor mode? its a d-link dwa 131 usb adapter
[03:59] <dwade0990> daftykins jreed http://picpaste.com/1002152254-l26M5EKc.jpg
[03:59] <daftykins> OmEgA010: sorry we don't help with what is obviously wifi security muck abouts :)
[03:59] <daftykins> dwade0990: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[04:00] <daftykins> and/or sudo apt-get -f install
[04:00] <poutine> what happens when you follow exactly what that error message tells you to type?
[04:00] <poutine> also you can use the print screen key, you don't have to put your monitor on the xerox machine every time
[04:00] <daftykins> :)
[04:01] <daftykins> i did try and explain the print screen key earlier but it seems it was too impossible
[04:02] <dwade0990> daftykins what about the print screen key?
[04:03] <daftykins> or ideally, Alt+print-screen for the *active* window, will save a screenshot that can be uploaded to imgur.com and then linked here
[04:05] <apb1963> ubuntu 14.04 - A recent update/upgrade broke hulu... I can still view youtube videos.  Been googling for over 2 days now.  Found lots of things to try mostly in regard to flash, none worked.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[04:07] <samthewildone> whats the difference between "fglrx & fglrx-updates" ? the policy shows same candidates.
[04:07] <samthewildone> is it something else ?
[04:08] <apb1963> It's apparently a DRM issue.  Tells me to install HAL and so on.
[04:08] <daftykins> try one, then the other
[04:08] <daftykins> apb1963: so chrome and pepperflash, not chromium - which do you have?
[04:10] <philharmonik> who out there isnt using mate
[04:11] <samthewildone> was
[04:12] <philharmonik> whats going on sam
[04:13] <daftykins> philharmonik: support only in here thanks, feel free to chat over in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:13] <apb1963> daftykins: firefox
[04:13] <jreed> daftykins... this is a pic of screen shot that doesnt let me do any thing  this is also after everything just tried. http://imgur.com/v1HtEEF
[04:13] <philharmonik> roger, thanks
[04:14] <daftykins> apb1963: i don't know if you can use firefox with DRM requiring services on Linux, you might want to check that
[04:14] <daftykins> jreed: hit tab until OK is highlighted in red, or cursors left/right/up/down
[04:16] <apb1963> daftykins: check where?  Here's the error message, etc.  http://picpaste.com/huluProblem-tGZ2oToG.png
[04:17] <glogic> apb1963: install HAL
[04:18] <apb1963> glogic: I tried.  It can't find hal-info
[04:18] <apb1963> glogic: which is a dependency
[04:18] <glogic> apb1963: what? it worked for me. When is the last time you tried?
[04:18] <apb1963> glogic: today
[04:19] <NSAops> is that backdoor we install into ubuntu working
[04:19] <glogic> apb1963: i have to afk, back in an hour if you're still around i'll try to assist
[04:19] <apb1963> glogic:
[04:19] <apb1963> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:19] <apb1963>  hal : Depends: hal-info (>= 20070402) but it is not installable
[04:19] <apb1963> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[04:20] <jreed> daftykins... ok heres screen shot. http://imgur.com/HMroDMw
[04:20] <apb1963> glogic: ok, thanks
[04:20] <daftykins> jreed: select no configuration
[04:21] <daftykins> apb1963: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:21] <apb1963> daftykins: did that... but will do again.. may not have done it recently enough..
[04:22] <apb1963> or at the right time whatever
[04:22] <apb1963> daftykins: ok, it's done.
[04:22] <daftykins> did it do anything?
[04:22] <apb1963> no
[04:22] <daftykins> apb1963: also "cat /etc/issue"
[04:22] <apb1963> not really
[04:22] <apb1963> 14.04.03
[04:22] <apb1963> though that's not cat
[04:22] <glogic> can you do-release-upgrade?
[04:22] <daftykins> well do it.
[04:23] <apb1963> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[04:23] <daftykins> glogic: why are you suggesting upgrading to 15.04?
[04:23] <jreed> daftykins... http://imgur.com/1O7P98r
[04:24] <daftykins> jreed: now you can "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" ?
[04:24] <apb1963> glogic: Yeah, really don't want to upgrade to another release at this time.
[04:24] <glogic> daftykins: I didn't know he was on LTS...
[04:24] <daftykins> glogic: heh
[04:25] <daftykins> apb1963: install chromium-browser and pepperflash and try hulu with those please
[04:25] <daftykins> !find pepperflash
[04:25] <daftykins> ^ that's the package
[04:25] <apb1963> daftykins: I have chrome.. is that the same thing?
[04:25] <glogic> chrome fails with hulu
[04:25] <daftykins> are you saying it doesn't work at all, or that it doesn't work for you?
[04:26] <apb1963> yeah, I was never happy with hulu on chrome
[04:26] <apb1963> it worked... just crashed a lot
[04:26] <glogic> all I can say is on 15.04 the HAL workaround succeeds. I hope you can find a workaround.
[04:26] <apb1963> but I haven't tried chrome lately so
[04:26] <apb1963> glogic: does the upgrade go flawlessly?
[04:26] <daftykins> can you please just try it =|
[04:27] <daftykins> flash has been killed off with firefox.
[04:27] <apb1963> daftykins: will do
[04:27] <glogic> apb1963: perfectly on my machine
[04:27] <daftykins> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/09/how-to-watch-hulu-on-ubuntu-1404-up
[04:27] <daftykins> also see there, that guys got a PPA for HAL
[04:27] <apb1963> yes, been to that link... followed those instructions
[04:27] <daftykins> you should probably have mentioned that
[04:28] <apb1963> I did.... I said I googled for days and did all kinds of things.  That was one of the things
[04:28] <apb1963> but clearly I don't know what I'm doing
[04:28] <apb1963> so I came here :)
[04:28] <daftykins> you didn't specifically share it.
[04:29] <daftykins> so is libhal1-flash installed right now? did you reboot after like it says?
[04:29] <apb1963> I didn't keep a list of all th elinks I've been to
[04:29] <apb1963> wait.... backup... erase erase erase...
[04:29] <daftykins> ...
[04:30] <apb1963> that's a different link.  I saw the omgubuntu and thought it was the same
[04:30] <daftykins> well, essentially not knowing what you *have* done makes it impossible to support.
[04:30] <daftykins> ok get cracking
[04:30] <apb1963> ok, I'm gonna get on crack
[04:30] <apb1963> err... yeah
[04:30] <apb1963> something like that
[04:30] <apb1963> thank you
[04:32] <daftykins> i googled 'ubuntu 14.04 hal hulu' :(
[04:32] <apb1963> yeah, I used different keywords based on the exact error message
[04:32] <apb1963> in fact I used the error message
[04:33] <apb1963> and ubuntu 14.04
[04:33] <apb1963> it took me  to the zombie hal
[04:33] <jreed> daftykins... i went ahead and ran the smartmontools and the latter and now will set  up the screen shots to see whats up
[04:33] <daftykins> jreed: no, don't need any screenshots - link me to the URL it created! :)
[04:33] <daftykins> can't believe a tab key was what held this up for how long? an hour?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> daftykins, so you're saying : We don't need no stinking screenshots!
[04:35] <jreed> daftykins... cool heres the url. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12645051/
[04:36] <daftykins> cfhowlett: exactly :D
[04:36] <daftykins> lol after all that there's no disk
[04:36] <daftykins> sweet
[04:36] <daftykins> jreed: "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[04:36] <daftykins> jreed: and "dmesg | pastebinit"
[04:36] <jreed> daftykins also the url for the latter. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12645063/
[04:37] <daftykins> that's the same thing
[04:38] <jreed> daftykins.. url from newest.http://paste.ubuntu.com/12645086/
[04:38] <daftykins> jreed: tell me what kind of computer this is?
[04:39] <daftykins> dwade0990: well there's certainly something up with the hard disk... there isn't one!
[04:39] <jreed> daftykins.http://paste.ubuntu.com/12645093/
[04:39] <jreed> its an hp 2000 notebook pc 64 bit
[04:39] <daftykins> old thing?
[04:40] <dwade0990> daftykins when he told me the ubunutu live dvd loaded but the hard drive wont I kind of figured the hd was bad
[04:40] <daftykins> what led to trying to put ubuntu on it today?
[04:40] <daftykins> yeah well "bad" != simply not there!
[04:40] <dwade0990> daftykins i told him to run ubunutu to use smart to check if there were any hd errors
[04:40] <jreed> bought it not too long a go and then it crashed after a month of having it
[04:41] <daftykins> ah no i see signs of a Hitachi hard disk
[04:42] <daftykins> for those of you following along at home, line 860: [   12.231551] ata1.00: ATA-8: HGST HTS545032A7E380, GGBOACA0, max UDMA/100
[04:42] <jreed> daftykins i have had the hard disk in my hands and put back in so i know its in it but im thinkin its crap
[04:42] <daftykins> which in its' former life was a 320GB HDD
[04:43] <daftykins> you could've put it back in with a bad connection, especially if not properly secured
[04:43] <daftykins> if you keep reading from line 1013 you can see where it thinks the disk keeps disappearing / disconnecting
[04:44] <daftykins> so yeah, either a bad connection or a failed disk
[04:44] <Merc> hey I have a question
[04:44] <daftykins> you can power off and try this all over again to see if it shows up :)
[04:44] <jreed> no its in well for sure but i dont believe its a good disk then cause ass i said it was a windows 8 and it crashedsaying it was needing a processor
[04:44] <Merc> how many times do you have to shred a file before it is completely unrecoverable
[04:45] <daftykins> lol needing a processor? what claimed that? :D
[04:45] <jreed> i have powered and unpowered many times now so far i even had it plugged into my other computer to try an work with it
[04:45] <Merc> anybody know?
[04:46] <jreed> main screen upon boot up
[04:46] <daftykins> jreed: well you could just buy a new one then :)
[04:46] <jreed> thats when i tried the ubuntu
[04:47] <jreed> yeah thats what i was thinkin but was hopein not
[04:48] <daftykins> well i can't be sure unless you used the same DVD and tested the disk in another PC
[04:51] <dwade0990> daftykins hes going to take a screenshot of what it looks like when he boots the hd
[04:51] <jreed> daftykins.... il get a screen shot of first power on without the disk in
[04:51] <lilmoe> help
[04:51] <lilmoe> I am not able to format my damn dvd lol
[04:51] <lilmoe> nor do i think its mounted to the right location
[04:52] <daftykins> 'format a DVD' ?
[04:52] <lilmoe> I mean
[04:52] <lilmoe> can't i ?
[04:52] <lilmoe> shouldn't it be possible ?
[04:52] <daftykins> a DVD-RW ?
[04:52] <lilmoe> yea
[04:52] <daftykins> you can't have it mounted *and* format it :)
[04:53] <lilmoe> so  i unmount it
[04:53] <daftykins> if it has the little eject icon next to it, sure
[04:54] <lilmoe> still confused
[04:55] <lilmoe> It's s aying read only
[04:55] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47493/how-do-i-format-a-dvd-rw
[04:55] <apb1963> daftykins: no joy
[04:56] <lilmoe> * BD/DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by <appro@fy.chalmers.se>, version 7.1.
[04:56] <lilmoe> :-( mounted media doesn't appear to be DVD±RW, DVD-RAM or Blu-ray
[04:56] <lilmoe> oh
[04:56] <lilmoe> bleh
[04:56] <lilmoe> hold up
[04:57] <daftykins> apb1963: well what happened...
[04:58] <apb1963> daftykins: nothing eventful.  The install went fine, I rebooted...  no hulu.  Same ol' error
[04:58] <daftykins> with which browser(s)?
[04:58] <dwade0990> daftykins: http://imgur.com/mBySLsg thats from jreed
[04:58] <apb1963> daftykins: fireefox
[04:58] <apb1963> i'll try chrome I guess
[04:59] <lilmoe> stupid q
[04:59] <lilmoe> what about dvd-r
[05:01] <apb1963> daftykins: essentially the same error in chrome
[05:01] <apb1963> actually...  adobe provides a very handy test page...
[05:02] <apb1963> which indicates that it's a "device binding" error
[05:02] <apb1963> so to me that says hal
[05:02] <apb1963> but, I'm lost :)
[05:02] <daftykins> *shrug*
[05:03] <apb1963> nobody else on 14.04 has this problem?
[05:03] <dwade0990> daftykins so its his hard drive thats gone out, he said he got the stuff mixed it wasnt his processor it was the hard drive.
[05:04] <apb1963> Let me rephrase.....  Is there anybody else on 14.04 able to watch hulu?
[05:04] <daftykins> heh, yes the magical disappearing HDD does sound quite bad
[05:04] <apb1963> anybody else running 14.04?
[05:05] <apb1963> anyone here running ubuntu?
[05:05] <daftykins> you have to bear in mind not everyone is in america and uses hulu
[05:05] <daftykins> don't ask silly questions :)
[05:05] <apb1963> I was just checkin' :)
[05:05] <daftykins> being annoying is what i'd call it
[05:06] <apb1963> not much response to any question so... that tells me something too.
[05:06] <apb1963> you and I are the only one's listening.
[05:06] <apb1963> so I'll try again later maybe.  Thanks daftykins:)
[05:06] <apb1963> always grateful for your help
[05:07] <apb1963> have a good night
[05:07] <apb1963> or day
[05:08] <dwade0990> Tgank you so much daftykins for all your help and o sorry it took so long.
[05:08] <dwade0990> Thank you*
[05:08] <daftykins> ;) i guess it's a tough interface to deal with the first time
[05:08] <daftykins> np, and maybe try and test that disk further in another system before giving up entirely
[05:09] <dwade0990> Yeah I just told him that.
[05:12] <wileee> the bot will give you cookies, it needs a metallic spine category
[05:17] <utu8o> what is the fraps equivalent on ubuntu/linux?
[05:19] <daftykins> playing a game with steam, or?
[05:19] <osboxes> ad
[05:19] <daftykins> often they'll be built in, or you can turn on steam's title-wide support if the Linux client has it
[05:21] <utu8o> not on steam
[05:21] <daftykins> so what title is it...
[05:21] <daftykins> must i guess? :)
[05:22] <utu8o> also is there a bluestacks equivalent for ubuntu/linux?
[05:22] <utu8o> well i want to record a game from my android device
[05:23] <daftykins> via bluetooth? not gonna happen
[05:23] <utu8o> no bluestacks
[05:23] <utu8o> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueStacks
[05:23] <daftykins> doubt that's gonna happen either if i'm honest.
[05:24] <utu8o> you can use android apps on windows or mac
[05:24] <daftykins> a game in an emulator, not happening
[05:25] <utu8o> it works on windows
[05:25] <daftykins> ok but it doesn't exist for Linux, so...
[05:25] <utu8o> so there is no equal on ubuntu/linux?
[05:26] <comix> hello. have a problem. openvon not work after last update. what do?
[05:26] <daftykins> google it.
[05:26] <comix> i did
[05:26] <daftykins> comix: sorry that wasn't at you
[05:26] <comix> oh
[05:26] <daftykins> 'doesn't work' = ?
[05:27] <comix> i wouldnt come here and ask stupidly.. but openvpn segfaults!?
[05:28] <comix> anyone else had this?
[05:29] <daftykins> reinstall? run from the prompt instead of as a daemon?
[05:35] <Guest64566> other then the folder structure of the andriod os's what graphical desktop enviorment did they uses is it gnome , kde ,or some other x11 windows and desktop manager because i want to install it and see if i can get me computer to look like the android desktop
[05:36] <Guest64566> I know there is andriod for x86/64 download distro out there but i just want to know the desktop so i can kind of set it up locally for fun
[05:36] <Guest64566> anybody know?
[05:36] <wileee> ask in #android
[05:37] <Guest64566> Or will i have to look it up under the subdirectories of the /system
[05:37] <Guest64566> with adb shell
[05:37] <Guest64566> either way i figured i would ask to speed the process
[05:37] <Guest64566> thanks i will try there
[05:42] <vicsar> .
[05:43] <daftykins> vicsar: yes?
[05:44] <billy_> allo
[05:46] <billy_> kalimera
[05:47] <baizon> hmm, is there a windows paint like program for ubuntu?
[05:47] <baizon> just for simple image editing
[05:49] <DalekSec> baizon: Not editing really, but pinta (never used it, because mono.)
[05:49] <daftykins> http://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-paint/?platform=linux
[05:52] <shazzr> baizon: pinta
[05:58] <baizon> shazzr: yes i tried pinta, it's not the best solution imho
[06:01] <baizon> well krita looks nice, but then i have to install all the kde dependencies :(
[06:02] <daftykins> could download kubuntu, boot it live, try it out - then go back
[06:02] <daftykins> no harm done
[06:12] <HackSmash> anyone familiar with actionaz ?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !info actionaz
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> HackSmash: ask your question about it to the channel
[06:21] <HackSmash> im am settin up the operations i want the 'script' to run ... but they do not seem to be happening in the order i set them to run in. eg line 3 happens immediatly, then line 1
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> HackSmash: manpage show anything usefull?
[06:23] <HackSmash> nothing i can find. I even played with putting in 'pause' but that does not seem to change things.
[06:24] <HackSmash> all i want is ... open a www page ... click into the text input field ... enter text xxx ... then click the login button
[06:24] <HackSmash> it all just happens in the wrong order
[06:27] <HackSmash> any suggestions on a better prgm to try would be welcome also
[06:43] <rust> I want to hire a hacker !! any clue ?
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> rust: wrong network
[06:43] <rust> where can  I ask this ?
[06:44]  * xStark facepalms
[06:45] <rust> Hey guys!! Its urgent.
[06:45] <rust> I need a hacker !!
[06:45] <rust> please !!
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> rust: stop that please
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> rust: not gonna happen on this network
[06:46] <rust> lotuspsychje, I am asking network name?
[06:46] <rust> lotuspsychje, Where can I ask this ?
[06:46] <Ben64> its not on topic here at all. stop
[06:46] <badbodh> rust: /join #ubuntu-offtopic and hire me, we don;t promote monetary transactions here
[06:46] <rust> ok
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> badbodh: thats bad idea to do this publicly
[06:51] <badbodh> lotuspsychje: i'm not a hacker. can;t even write a hello world code :)
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> badbodh: then dont suggest hiring
[06:55] <RoundDuckMan> I made an Ubuntu 14.04.3 usb with universal USB installer, and it got 2 errors in the integrity check. Is it UUI's fault, since UUI does change the bootloader of the USB. :/
[06:55] <badbodh> i took a harmless liberty to joke, highlight me when someone needs troubleshooting >:(
[06:56] <badbodh> RoundDuckMan: exact error messages ?
[06:56] <wileee> !md5sum | RoundDuckMan check the iso, more likely.
[06:57] <RoundDuckMan> badbodh: It said grub.cfg and loopsomething(I forgot exactly what it was).cfg were mis matched.
[06:58] <RoundDuckMan> or maybe the last one wasn't a .cfg, idk...
[06:58] <RoundDuckMan> don't know exactly is what I meant
[07:00] <badbodh> RoundDuckMan: ^ check hash as wileee suggested. try this http://www.osforensics.com/tools/write-usb-images.html to create your live-usb
[07:00] <RoundDuckMan> ubottu: ISO and UUI were both verified with a sum checker tool in Windows, it was included in W8.
[07:01] <wileee> RoundDuckMan, Usb 3 may be an issue, anything can happen, really you have to just find what works.
[07:02] <RoundDuckMan> badbodh: It's OK, I just wanted to know if the 2 errors are perfectly normal for UUI.
[07:02] <badbodh> just check if it's booting into live successfully
[07:02] <badbodh> could be debug messages you may ignore
[07:03] <badbodh> if not, purge the pendrive. delete partition, rewrite mbr, create a fresh partition
[07:04] <RoundDuckMan> badbodh: It was fine, heck I installed it in fine, though I have yet to boot it ( it's 3 am) after installing it into HDD. I'm just wonderin' if UUI is supposed to do this.
[07:05] <badbodh> i don;t use UUI so can;t tell, diff people use diff tools, lili unetbootin imagewriter etc
[07:06] <badbodh> as long as ubuntu boots and installs, why bother
[07:06] <RoundDuckMan> badbodh: Oh, and the error messages weren't during booting up, I was actually explaining the results of the integrity check tool in the live iso
[07:07] <badbodh> meh. ignore, or ask the uui devs. not an ubuntu issue.
[07:08] <loa> hello, i have always one problem with unity when i click on unity bar, where are few windows they show slow and unresponsive.
[07:09] <loa> You have such problem or not?
[07:09] <RoundDuckMan> badbodh: sorry for this, I'm just OCD after having Mint issues, and I don't want a hacked Ubuntu stealing my Google account, lol.
[07:10] <RoundDuckMan> gotta go
[07:13] <badbodh> RoundDuckMan: your ocd is bad and baseless. linux don;t steal data.
[07:16] <baizon> "hacked Ubuntu stealing my Google account" <- best text ever :)
[07:18] <badbodh> ubuntu does send some data to amazon, for people who are too lazy to click that 'off button' but prefer to rant about it
[07:50] <edgar> DE DONDE SON
[08:10] <Leagnus> hi! ubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386.iso can't detect OSes and exisiting partitions on Lenovo IdeaPad Z500.
[08:10] <Leagnus> Plus if I have chosen my native language - i can't input password in english in WiFi applet.
[08:18] <MayurYa> what is the procedure to moderate a channel with very limited users? say 2-3 users visiting channel per hour with one constant user looking after it.
[08:19] <MayurYa> oops; should have asked at #freenode.
[08:38] <Guest21547> cd
[08:39] <Guest21547> хуй
[08:39] <Leagnus> Guest21547: чё ругаешься
[08:50] <minas114> Hello! Is there a way to stop java applications from stealing focus when they start? (e.g neatbans / android studio).
[08:54] <jeffrey> join @ubuntu
[08:54] <jeffrey> join #ubuntu
[08:55] <bazhang> success jeffrey
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> jeffrey  you're already here
[08:55] <jeffrey> ok
[08:55] <jeffrey> what this chat all about
[08:55] <bazhang> ubuntu support jeffrey
[08:56] <bazhang> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic jeffrey
[08:56] <jeffrey> why do some web sites on hear on firefox on ubuntu fonts fit and some dont fit on others
[08:57] <MonkeyDust> jeffrey  maybe they have been "optimized for..."
[08:58] <jeffrey> ok is there a way i can make all web sites on firefox fonts fit all web sites
[09:00] <jeffrey> who hates windows 10
[09:00] <sam_> hello i have some problem trying to update. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12646480/
[09:01] <bazhang> !ot | jeffrey
[09:01] <Leagnus> ubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386.iso can't detect OSes and exisiting partitions on Lenovo IdeaPad Z500.
[09:01] <Leagnus> Plus if I have chosen my native language - i can't input password in english in WiFi applet.
[09:01] <jeffrey> ok
[09:02] <jeffrey> win ubuntu 15.10 comen out
[09:02] <MonkeyDust> jeffrey  2-3 weeks from now
[09:03] <jeffrey> is that beta are rtm
[09:03] <sam_> probably i can't install a linux-image after i've uninstalled all of them.
[09:03] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 jeffrey
[09:03] <jeffrey> do what
[09:04] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu+1     <----- jeffrey
[09:04] <jeffrey> ok
[09:07] <Leagnus> for me ubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386.iso is guano
[09:30] <sayhi> hey - i have a slight problem - i tried to install foreman which in turn tries to install ruby rdoc - which i already have because I use rvm... now i cant install anything and i cant remove the packages
[09:31] <sayhi> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)
[09:31] <sayhi> but -f install just results in an error because rdoc is trying to overwrite rvm rdoc
[09:31] <sayhi> stale mate
[09:32] <sayhi> is there a way to 'undo' the foreman package install?
[09:33] <bazhang> purge the ppa first sayhi
[09:34] <bazhang> what is 'I use the rvm' sayhi
[09:34] <sayhi> bazhang: that sounds good, but i dont know what ppa is :p
[09:34] <sayhi> rvm is ruby version manager
[09:36] <swenzel> does anyone have an idea what /dev/dm-1 could be? or at least how I can find out?
[09:36] <loa> can somebody say if he having lag with unity when he have multiply opened windows on nautilus? for example i click on unity bar and when few windows need to appear i  see visual lag.
[09:37] <loa> like it is heave operation.
[09:37] <ioria> sayhi   a conflict maybe   .... dpkg -l     foremancli   and  ruby-dotenv   ?
[09:37] <sayhi> ioria: probably - i just would like to know how to 'undo' the install of foreman
[09:38] <sayhi> i cant purge anything cause its telling me to install -f
[09:38] <ioria> sayhi    dpkg -l     foremancli   and  ruby-dotenv   ?
[09:38] <sayhi> bazhang: how do I purge ppa?
[09:39] <bazhang> sayhi, why were you using dpkg to install
[09:39] <sayhi> bazhang: no
[09:39] <loa> i experience some things... and i think i can't describe it right...
[09:39] <loa> how called in unity terms left bar with icons?
[09:39] <loa> can i say that it is taskbar?
[09:40] <loa> or maybe it unitybar?
[09:40] <ioria> dpkg -l  just lists the packages installed ..... or not
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> loa  the launchbar
[09:41] <loa> MonkeyDust, how can i call feature when i click on launchbar few times and window selection appears?
[09:41] <linocisco> hi
[09:41] <loa> for example i open few windows of nautilus and after that i click on nautilus icon on launchbar?
[09:41] <linocisco> I cant print Canon LBP 3050 printer via USB on my laptop 15.04.
[09:42] <linocisco> I cant print Canon LBP 3050 printer via USB on my laptop 15.04 64bit
[09:42] <bazhang> !printing | linocisco
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> loa  "click on a launchbar a few times" is a bit vague
[09:43] <bazhang> check their db FIRST linocisco
[09:43] <bazhang> http://linuxprinting.org  <---- step ONE linocisco
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> loa  install and explore unity-tweak-tool a bit, i guess you'll like it
[09:44] <loa> MonkeyDust, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2015.10.03-12%3A44%3A04.png
[09:44] <linocisco> bazhang, I dont understand. I tried to install correct driver CAPT
[09:44] <loa> MonkeyDust, you see this icon? there is two nautilus windows
[09:44] <swenzel> okay /dev/dm-1 seems to an LVM logical device... so I bet it's a problem with the nvidia drivers... again -.-
[09:44] <bazhang> linocisco, go their db
[09:44] <loa> when i click on it few times, will appear content of both windows
[09:44] <linocisco> bazhang, what is their db?
[09:45] <loa> MonkeyDust, you got what i am talking about?
[09:45] <bazhang> http://linuxprinting.org  <---- linocisco
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> loa  yes, click once on the nautilus icon, then you see both nautilus windows
[09:45] <loa> MonkeyDust, how fast this work for you?
[09:46] <loa> MonkeyDust, how fast that windows appear?
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> loa  instantly
[09:46] <sayhi> bazhang: i have Hit http://deb.theforeman.org plugins/1.5 i386 Packages   but apt-get-repository --remove doesnt remove it..
[09:47] <loa> MonkeyDust, i have lag there i think seconds or two... for example steam and steam game are on same icon and they opens almost instantly
[09:47] <ikonia> you need to clean / complete the install the remove it
[09:47] <loa> MonkeyDust, same situation for libreoffice calc...
[09:47] <ikonia> it can't remove packages in an half installed state, more so when there are dependencies linked to it
[09:47] <linocisco> bazhang, it is now http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting
[09:48] <linocisco> bazhang, i dont know where to find what
[09:48] <sayhi> ikonia: i cant complete
[09:48] <ikonia> sayhi: why not
[09:48] <sayhi> its trying to overwrite /usr/bin/rdoc which isnt allowed
[09:48] <sayhi> i even removed it.. but it still wont do it
[09:48] <ikonia> sayhi: why is it not allowed ?
[09:49] <ikonia> what's stopping it
[09:49] <sayhi> ikonia: good question
[09:49] <ikonia> so work it through
[09:50] <sayhi> its trying to install rdoc which i already have..
[09:50] <ikonia> right, so there is a conflict
[09:51] <ikonia> resolve the conflict
[09:51] <globalimport> how can I browse files on an android device from the command line? Do I connect the device using usb debugging?
[09:52] <loa> MonkeyDust, can you please help me, it is hard to explain my problem to somebody else, maybe you have ideas or something?
[09:52] <loa> it is bothering me...
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> loa  frankly, i'm not geting it either
[09:52] <sayhi> ikonia: its not letting me purge or remove anything
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> getting*
[09:52] <ikonia> sayhi: why
[09:52] <ikonia> sayhi: what's stopping it
[09:52] <sayhi> sayhi: i could resolve the issue by removing ruby191 but its just telling me to install -f
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> loa  if two instances of a program open, click on the icon to see them both
[09:53] <ikonia> sayhi: right, it wants to finish what' it's doing before moving forward
[09:53] <sayhi> ikonia: ye.. but it cant
[09:54] <ikonia> sayhi: so you need to work through the prolem, you may need to override apt-get with dpkg to remove a package that is causing a conflict if the install process is in a chicken/egg
[09:54] <ikonia> sayhi: yes, it can
[09:54] <sayhi> ikonia: ye.. i just wanted to ask. if i can use dpkg
[09:54] <loa> MonkeyDust, i do that and ater that i wait around 1.5 - 2 seconds them to appear... like my computer is lagging.
[09:54] <Arkyos> buongiorno
[09:55] <linocisco> bazhang, hi
[09:55] <loa> MonkeyDust, how that functionality called when you see content of both windows?
[09:55] <linocisco> bazhang, only LBP3010 is found as nearest in db. but mine is LBP3050. what do I do?
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> loa  if it's an old computer, consider using the lighter and faster LXDE or XFCE instead of unity
[09:56] <bazhang> so what driver does their database suggest after searching it linocisco
[09:57] <loa> MonkeyDust, phenom x4 and gtx 660 is old for unity?
[09:57] <sayhi> bazhang: , ikonia: using dpkg i managed to resolve it by purging foremann installer thanks for your time
[09:59] <Copernicus22> Hi, is there anyone here experianced with raid 5?
[09:59] <Total_noob> Hello. I would like to use a loopback device on NTFS partition. I have an idea about this, but I am unsure how to achieve grub without adding a partition. A hint is grub4dos. But cannot grasp how to boot. I can either store the boot data on ntfs, or on the loopback itself. Any pointers?
[09:59] <Copernicus22> Just wondering how safe it is
[09:59] <ikonia> Copernicus22: why don't you just as your question
[09:59] <ikonia> Copernicus22: how safe it is ?
[09:59] <Copernicus22> trying to decide between raid 1 or raid 5
[09:59] <Copernicus22> raid 5 would be faster
[09:59] <ikonia> it depends on a great many things
[10:00] <Copernicus22> used to have raid 0
[10:00] <Copernicus22> my raid volume is no longer working in ubuntu, only in windows
[10:00] <Copernicus22> now I have to reinstall everything
[10:00] <ikonia> using a fake raid controller is a bigger risk than your raid level
[10:01] <Copernicus22> don't want to have this situation again
[10:01] <linocisco> bazhang, only LBP3010 is found as nearest in db. but mine is LBP3050. what do I do?
[10:01] <Copernicus22> ikonia, I think I have hardware raid: MSI GS70 www.msi.com/product/notebook/GS70-2QE-Stealth-Pro.html#hero-overview
[10:02] <ikonia> that is not hardware raid
[10:02] <Copernicus22> fakeraid?
[10:02] <ikonia> yes
[10:02] <ikonia> Copernicus22: how many disks are in your laptop /
[10:02] <Copernicus22> 2 ssd, 1hdd
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> loa  i'm not familiar with the differences between video cards
[10:02] <ikonia> Copernicus22: then how can you do raid 5 ?
[10:03] <sayhi> afaik raid 5 is only an option if you NEED that little but of extra space
[10:03] <Copernicus22> ikonia, thinking about buying an extra disk
[10:03] <ikonia> sayhi: no, that is not true
[10:03] <ikonia> Copernicus22: can that laptop hold 3 internal disks /
[10:03] <sayhi> but = bit
[10:03] <Copernicus22> ikonia, think so
[10:03] <ikonia> you think so ?
[10:04] <ikonia> I'd check a lot more than ' I think so " before looking into this
[10:04] <ikonia> Copernicus22: either way - fake raid is not something I'd recommend to you
[10:04] <sayhi> raid 5 is a bit more space then raid 10.. so the only reason I can think of is. you need that bit of space
[10:04] <Copernicus22> i've configurations with 4 ssd's
[10:04] <maxp> if i add "127.0.0.1 localhost.ssl" to /private/etc/hosts, does everything on localhost use SSL?
[10:04] <ikonia> maxp: no
[10:05] <maxp> I made a new rails app and went to localhost:3000 and it tried to use SSL even though I hadn't configured it to
[10:05] <sayhi> ikonia: imo. if you dont need the extra bit of space raid5 offers.. use raid 10
[10:05] <maxp> although I did configure the last app to use SSL
[10:05] <ikonia> sayhi: that makes no sense
[10:06] <sayhi> ikonia: does to me ;p
[10:07] <sayhi> afaik, raid 10 has better performance then raid 5 - in any use case
[10:07] <sayhi> so why use raid5?
[10:08] <loa> MonkeyDust, here is example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMvMW6sL52k
[10:08] <Copernicus22> sayhi, you need 4 disks for raid 10 ?
[10:08] <sayhi> Copernicus22: 2
[10:08] <loa> MonkeyDust, those glitches with windows i think because of recording... i don't see them in real.
[10:08] <sayhi> min 3 for raid5
[10:08] <sayhi> min2 for raid 10
[10:09] <loa> MonkeyDust, you can see that icon with steam is more responsive then nautilus
[10:09] <Copernicus22> I see
[10:10] <Copernicus22> sayhi, no here it says you need at least 4 disk for raid 10
[10:10] <ikonia> he means raid 1+0
[10:11] <sayhi> ye.. 1+0
[10:11] <Copernicus22> mirror
[10:11] <ikonia> Copernicus22: what is your goal here ?
[10:11] <sayhi> raid5 used to be cool, when disk space was expensive.. that time has past.. in my opinion
[10:12] <Copernicus22> trying to figure out if raid 5 is worth the money
[10:12] <sayhi> and googleing raid5 vs raid10 mostly comfirms that opinion
[10:12] <ikonia> Copernicus22: what is your goal though, what is the problem you're trying to fix with raid
[10:12] <Copernicus22> I really hate that my raid 0 is failing
[10:12] <Copernicus22> seems to be failing*
[10:12] <ikonia> your raid 0 isn't failing, you said it works just fine with windows
[10:13] <Copernicus22> I don't know why it no longer works in linux
[10:13] <sayhi> software raid..
[10:13] <Total_noob> Poor people still have disk space expensive.
[10:13] <ikonia> most likley due to fake raid
[10:14] <ikonia> Copernicus22: what is your reason for using raid/what is the problem you are trying to fix by using raid ?
[10:14] <sayhi> Copernicus22: either use hardware raid or dont use it at all :p
[10:14] <Total_noob> Copernicus22: Make a dedicated NAS system with mdraid... there are linux and bsd distros made for this.
[10:15] <Copernicus22> right now i'm using raid 0, I love it, really fast, but as it no longer works in linux I thought maybe it's damaged, so now I'm thinking of recreating the raid volume using raid 5, still fast but more redundancy so I never have to experiance this scenario again
[10:16] <sayhi> raid 0 is useless
[10:16] <yacc> Just wondering, any Linux filesystem with really big blocks (I'm thinking about MB sized ones)?
[10:16] <Copernicus22> but maybe your right, maybe it's a linux problem, since my windows still works just fine
[10:16] <ikonia> Copernicus22: to be honest, it won't matter what raid level you are using if you are using fake raid controllers, the risk is greater than the raid level you are using
[10:16] <sayhi> Copernicus22: dont use software raid...
[10:16] <ikonia> yacc: you can set the block size
[10:16] <Copernicus22> I can even access my linux partion, backup it without any problems from windows
[10:16] <yacc> ikonia: ext4?
[10:16] <ikonia> yacc: pretty sure you can set the block size
[10:17] <ikonia> man page says -b will set the block size for ext4
[10:17] <yacc>  Specify the size of blocks in bytes.  Valid block-size  values  are  1024,
[10:17] <yacc>               2048  and  4096  bytes per block.
[10:18] <Copernicus22> I've tried everthing to fix my raid volume in the hope that linux recognizes it
[10:18] <ikonia> yacc: ahh so you're hitting a limit with 4096
[10:18] <Copernicus22> so far no luck
[10:18] <Copernicus22> right now I'm trying testdisk from windows
[10:18] <ikonia> Copernicus22: why ?
[10:19] <yacc> ikonia: actually, mkfs.ext4 does create the fs after asking if that's what I want, but the kernel refuses to mount it.
[10:19] <ikonia> what is testdisk going to do for you ?
[10:19] <Copernicus22> ikonia, fix my booting problems ? I don't know
[10:19] <ikonia> Copernicus22: why don't you explain your problem rather than just guessing
[10:19] <ikonia> Copernicus22: your biggest risk is the fake raid controller here
[10:19] <ikonia> yacc: yeah, docs say 4096 is the max
[10:19] <yacc> So any other atypical filesystems that would have a large block size?
[10:20] <ikonia> not seeing anything bigger than 4096
[10:20] <Judgen> What release of ubuntu is the prefered for a powerbook 1.67ghz?
[10:20] <yacc> Basically, got this freaking Seagate Archive 8TB disc, and it really sucks under anything like random access writes.
[10:20] <ikonia> Judgen: as in PPC ?
[10:21] <ikonia> yacc: big blcok size wouldn't fix that
[10:21] <Judgen> ikonia: Yes
[10:21] <ikonia> Judgen: you're going to be quite limited to the community port
[10:21] <ikonia> !PPC | Judgen
[10:21] <Copernicus22> ikonia, my raid volume is no longer recognized, even when I boot from the  ubuntu rescuedisk
[10:22] <ikonia> Copernicus22: does it see the two individual disks ?
[10:22] <Copernicus22> ikonia, yes
[10:22] <Judgen> ikonia: i am aware of that. But using desktop app with gtk3 and qt4/4 seems to be out of the question in from a performance standpoint on this rather slow machine. Would perhaps lucid be the release to go for?
[10:22] <ikonia> Copernicus22: ok - so it see's the disks, but it can't build the meta device, try to manually assemble the metadeivce with the dm tools
[10:22] <Copernicus22> ikonia, I checked them for bad blocks
[10:22] <ikonia> Copernicus22: the errors you get will give you an idea as to why it fails
[10:23] <ikonia> Judgen: I'd be more focused on the desktop environment, rather than the release
[10:23] <ikonia> be as current / stable as you can, but chose the lightest weight desktop possible
[10:23] <ikonia> you'll find it will be the graphics driver that is letting you down
[10:23] <Copernicus22> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12593160/
[10:23] <ikonia> Copernicus22: nothing to do with what I suggested
[10:24] <ikonia> no idea why you are running boot repair
[10:24] <Judgen> ikonia: Yes, but as i said. KDE3 is not available in new releases and mate is using more and more gtk3 stuff in later releases. Perhaps i should opt for mate on Precise. (Precise is supported until 2017, right)
[10:24] <Copernicus22> it also tried to assemble the raid array
[10:24] <Copernicus22> ikonia,mdadm --detail --scan
[10:24] <ikonia> Copernicus22: doesn't look like it to me
[10:24] <Copernicus22> etc
[10:24] <ikonia> that is a for mdadm disks
[10:25] <ikonia> you want the dm tools
[10:25] <ikonia> you're using fake raid, as I've said
[10:25] <Copernicus22> ikonia, ok thx
[10:25] <yacc> ikonia: oh it would. Because it has this issue that it has to rewrite rather big areas of the disc to change one byte. If the OS supplies the whole area, it does not need read+modify+write, it can use write.
[10:25] <ikonia> yacc: I disagree
[10:25] <ikonia> yacc: there are some that support huge block sizes though, hang on
[10:26] <Copernicus22> ikonia, are you sure, it's so fast, 1GB/sec, sure it's not hardware raid?
[10:26] <yacc> ikonia: the big issue is that seagate does not document the block sizes, and I'm not sure if it can handle partial block writes that do not change anything.
[10:26] <ikonia> Copernicus22: %1000 sure
[10:26] <Copernicus22> ikonia, ok thx :)
[10:27] <yacc> ikonia: I didn't say it would be great, I just said it would work, now, in general use, I'm managing IO timeouts oops.
[10:27] <derPATE> hey all
[10:27] <derPATE> can sb help
[10:27] <derPATE> me
[10:27] <yacc> derPATE: not enough info to answer your question :-P
[10:27] <derPATE> PETER PAN HELP
[10:27] <derPATE> WEll ok
[10:28] <derPATE> I cant decide between
[10:28] <derPATE> ubuntu and mnt
[10:28] <derPATE> mint
[10:28] <bazhang> thats not ontopic here derPATE
[10:28] <yacc> derPATE: Well, your unconciousness has decided for you my making you join #ubuntu :-P
[10:29] <derPATE> and
[10:29] <derPATE> xubuntu or unity
[10:30] <yacc> derPATE: bazhang is right that this is offtopic here, if my funny answer was not indication enough :-P
[10:30] <xStark> Ubuntu is great if you go for 14.4 LTS
[10:31] <derPATE> blow my cock
[10:32] <xStark> Oh lord...
[10:32] <hypermist> derPATE, pls no, i can't blow something that isnt there. :p
[10:33] <Gaardon> Xubuntu. i don't really like KDE or Unity
[10:34] <vooze> Hi, I cant use VPN for some reason. Ubuntu 15.04. When I press the connection I have added just nothing happens, and it says "under" as it havent even tried to connect.
[10:35] <derPATE> thanx Gaardon
[10:42] <JCC> Hello, I'm trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 but update-manager thinks the next version is 15.04.  Any idea what could be set wrong?
[10:42] <loa> MonkeyDust, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1314587
[10:43] <loa> MonkeyDust, worked for me...
[10:47] <mororo> hi, please help my choice full working on my laptop Lenovo Z50-75... iam used linux mint is working else very performace low beside windows 8
[10:47] <yacc> ikonia: found any fs candidate?
[10:47] <loa> JCC, that strange... you actually ned update from 14.04 to 14.10 and after that to 15.04
[10:48] <loa> i did that few days before.
[10:48] <Ben64> JCC: 14.10 is no longer supported. what is the reason you want to upgrade though? 14.04 is supported until april 2019
[10:48] <cfhowlett> !mint | mororo, sorry can't help you.  mint is not ubuntu and this channel is ONLY for ubuntu support.
[10:49] <mororo> cfhowlett, ok iam thoung core ubuntu for mint...
[10:49] <cfhowlett> mororo, for mint help, use mint channels.  for ubuntu help, install ubuntu.
[10:50] <JCC> Ben64 I've got the Intel 4000 Ivybridge and would like an updated version of mesa for opengl 3.3
[10:50] <mororo> cfhowlett, ok iam finding other linux system that full working, no problems on my laptop
[10:50] <Ben64> JCC: well good news, the LTS versions get stuff like that ported back
[10:51] <cfhowlett> !flavors | mororo
[10:51] <JCC> Ben64, loa 13.04 only supports mesa 3.0 of opengl and I was trying to see if I could get unreal sdk to run
[10:51] <Ben64> JCC: 13.04?
[10:52] <SCHAAP137> hmm, Ubuntu MATE is not mentioned in that ubottu line
[10:52] <JCC> sorry 14.04
[10:52] <cfhowlett> SCHAAP137, you're right ... it should be there!  I don't know how to edit the factoids.  ops??
[10:52] <loa> JCC,  why you don't want update to 15.04?
[10:53] <Ben64> JCC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[10:53] <Ben64> or use the enablement stack like its there for
[10:53] <SCHAAP137> i agree it should be there cfhowlett, i'm using MATE ;)
[10:53] <vooze> I'm trying to connect to VPN. But it does not save the password. Works on another 15.04 machine I have, but still does not. Any ideas?
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  guess you can submit a custom factoid and hope it's accepted, i guess... not sure where to submlit it, tho
[10:54] <JCC> loa, Cannot upgrade: An upgrade from trusty to vivid is not supported with this tool (update-manager)
[10:54] <Ben64> JCC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[10:54] <loa> JCC, you checked there to show unstable builds?
[10:55] <mororo> cfhowlett, thanks, later using kubuntu on very problem working skype, later using ubuntu very problem running steam, skype ... iam no left time deal with problems for 4 hours iam go work on five weeks no connection internet
[10:55] <mororo> ok ino did connection else mobil wifi connection limited fup
[10:56] <Gaardon> http://askubuntu.com/questions/421671/microphone-static-background-noise-suppression/497559#497559 is this bug fixed in 15.04 or do i have to do it manually in there too?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> mororo, feel free to come here for help after you install *buntu.
[10:56] <JCC> loa, yes all update options are checked
[10:57] <Ben64> JCC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[10:57] <loa> JCC, strange...
[10:57] <Ben64> JCC: are you ignoring me or do you just not want to do the easiest option
[10:57] <JCC> Ben64, sorry badly multi-tasking - is this easier?
[10:58] <Ben64> much
[10:58] <Ben64> keeps you on 14.04, gets you a new kernel, new mesa, new x
[10:59] <JCC> Ben64, sounds like a good option.  I'm all backed up so I can give it a shot
[11:11] <JCC> Ben64, looks like a good option - I've updated using the instructions of the link and now have mesa 10.5.9 which is the same as the backported package.  Cheers :)
[11:14] <Ben64> JCC: :)
[11:17] <testswet> Question: where do you advise to install non-standard software? Example: I have downloaded the most recent verison of Freemind (v1.0.1) and deinstalled the standard version that comes with Ubuntu 14.04 (which is Freemind v0.9.0). I can run Freemind directly from the unpacked zipfile. Where should i place this freemind directory and other such 'manually' downloaded software?
[11:18] <EriC^^> testswet: /usr/local/
[11:18] <testswet> I know i can put it anywhere, but i want to put it in a 'standard' place for such situations
[11:18] <OneM_Industries> Make a standard place.
[11:19] <OneM_Industries> I just dump stuff wherever it fits...
[11:19] <testswet> thnx EriC^^
[11:19] <cfhowlett> testswet, /opt is the "standard" for that kind of thing - or so I'm told
[11:20] <testswet> OneM_Industries, yea i know i can place it anywhere, but in contrast to my life, i like my computer and all files on it to be organised
[11:20] <OneM_Industries> "Organized"?
[11:21] <Ben64> you can put your own binaries in ~/bin/ and they'll automatically be added to the PATH
[11:29] <circle> what does it mean when i type | but ~ comes out?
[11:29] <circle> also if i type \ it comes out as #
[11:29] <OneM_Industries> Er...
[11:29] <auronandace> circle: perhaps you have the wrong keyboard layout
[11:30] <OneM_Industries> It means either your keyboard is broken, or ^
[11:30] <mjayk> circle: yes souds like you have american and english mixed up
[11:30] <circle> OneM_Industries, keyboard is fine
[11:30] <circle> mjayk, interesting, let me try something
[11:30] <baihua>    /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER baihua rwkboxulyoic
[11:30] <EriC^^> circle: go to settings > text entry
[11:30] <mjayk> baihua: id change that password if i was you
[11:30] <Marasgeon> lol
[11:30] <SCHAAP137> lel
[11:31] <OneM_Industries> At least it was not "hunter2".
[11:31] <mjayk> p455w0rd
[11:31] <SCHAAP137> yeah, or admin1234
[11:31] <Marasgeon> or god
[11:31] <SCHAAP137> or: Incorrect
[11:31] <circle> mjayk, thank you! changing it to english (US) worked, i'm in australia so i had no idea UK/US keyboards were that dif, and that aus used US ones
[11:31] <OneM_Industries> I have seen some bad passwords.
[11:32] <OneM_Industries> Having a minimum character limit of 1 is a bad idea.
[11:32] <mjayk> circle: nps
[11:33] <SCHAAP137> having to change passwords oftenly, does not contribute to users creating stronger passwords, on the contrary, they will try to find the easiest variation on their current ones
[11:33] <Archyme> ^
[11:33] <SCHAAP137> most of the time at least
[11:34] <xubuntu-0512> hello! is this the right place to ask a question?
[11:34] <Archyme> required password change intervals result in things such as "password1, password2, password3" etc... which is what i do for my non-interesting work email that has a 30 day time limit
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !ask | xubuntu-0512 ubuntu questions ...
[11:35] <xubuntu-0512> alrighty then
[11:36] <Archyme> since i'm being lazy... new install 14.04, gtx 970 gfx card, display settings say "built in display" and I can't dual monitor...
[11:38] <xubuntu-0512> i have an ubuntu server running samba and stuff, and i cant use its server name like this http://servername/ because the hostname doesnt resolve
[11:38] <OneM_Industries> Honestly, most of the time I don't change my passwords.
[11:38] <xubuntu-0512> the problem appears only in another ubuntu laptop
[11:38] <xubuntu-0512> i can do that fine from a windows pc
[11:38] <xubuntu-0512> any ideas?
[11:38] <OneM_Industries> However, my passwords are usually 30-40 characters long.
[11:42] <Archyme> i finally created a good, capitalization, special character, and number password that i can remember at 32 characters long! i felt like being able to remember it was an accomplishment all in itself
[11:43] <xubuntu-0512> seriously people
[11:43] <xubuntu-0512> if your passwords are LONG
[11:44] <OneM_Industries> I once tested it.
[11:44] <xubuntu-0512> there is no need to use capitalization special characters and/or other lame things
[11:44] <xubuntu-0512> just use a passPHRASE not a passWORD
[11:44] <xubuntu-0512> and you're good...
[11:44] <OneM_Industries> It appears that there is no upper limit on Google passwords.
[11:44] <Archyme> xubuntu-0512, but i don't want people in year 2486 being able to hack my shit... even if i have been dead for well over 400 years :P
[11:45] <OneM_Industries> I tested that by pasting an entire paper that I wrote into Google, and it took it.
[11:45] <xubuntu-0512> lol ok that is a point
[11:45] <xubuntu-0512> :P
[11:45] <ar3k> hi ^^
[11:45] <OneM_Industries> I also have two step authentication.
[11:45] <xubuntu-0512> anyways
[11:45] <OneM_Industries> (For which I got an extra 2GB of Google Drive space.)
[11:46] <Archyme> two step is awesome... i can have "password" and require a text!
[11:46] <OneM_Industries> ^
[11:46] <OneM_Industries> Running VMs can get fun though...
[11:47] <bazhang> !ot | OneM_Industries Archyme
[11:47] <OneM_Industries> Sorry.
[11:49] <Voyage> What is memtest on grub menu for? how long to run it?
[11:49] <auronandace> Voyage: it checks your ram for errors
[11:49] <Voyage> auronandace,  the hardware?
[11:49] <OneM_Industries> Yes.
[11:50] <Voyage> OneM_Industries,  auronandace  how long to run it?
[11:50] <OneM_Industries> Until it is done, or it starts showing errors.
[11:50] <auronandace> Voyage: the longer the better really, you can set different levels of intensity
[11:51] <Voyage> auronandace,  10 minutes will be fine?
[11:51] <thms> how can I unstall mysql completly, so I can reinstall and get the password prompt and stuff again ?
[11:51] <Voyage> thq purge
[11:51] <auronandace> Voyage: for a surface scan prehaps, but i'm not expert sorry
[11:51] <OneM_Industries> Voyage: It depends.
[11:52] <Voyage> thaks
[11:52] <Voyage> thanks*
[11:52] <jpstone> any way to make workspaces go horizontally only, instead of vertically as well?
[11:53] <jpstone> trying to get them to behave like Mac fullscreen
[11:53] <auronandace> jpstone: what desktop environment?
[11:53] <jpstone> and just press my mouse 4/5 buttons
[11:53] <jpstone> 14.04
[11:53] <jpstone> ubuntu
[11:53] <auronandace> jpstone: if you mean unity then you can do that with the unity-tweak tool
[11:53] <jpstone> ok let me check it out
[11:54] <jpstone> how do i verify if i'm using unity?
[11:54] <OneM_Industries> I have to go, night!
[11:54] <auronandace> jpstone: is there a bar on the left side?
[11:54] <jpstone> yeppers
[11:54] <auronandace> jpstone: thats unity then
[11:54] <thms> Voltasalt: Voltasalt even with --purge i still get
[11:54] <jpstone> cool, ty!
[11:55] <ratrace> is there a way to prevent service restart when its package is upgraded with apt-get?
[11:57] <zest_> hey there
[11:58] <zest_> i recently upgraded my mac os to el capitan
[11:58] <zest_> and ubuntu stopped working
[11:58] <jpstone> is there a desktop environment anyone prefers over unity here?
[11:58] <jpstone> trying to get as close to mac full-screen swipe as I can
[11:59] <auronandace> jpstone: there are plenty to chose from but it depends on taste and function so there is no clear best
[11:59] <XxHardXtremexX> jpstone: Pantheon desktop environment.
[12:00] <auronandace> jpstone: there is a cairo dock you can use for something similar to the mac dock
[12:01] <jpstone> it's not the dock so much as the full-screen swipe
[12:01] <jpstone> im thinking i can just create horizontal workspaces and bind mouse 4/5 to switch between them
[12:01] <auronandace> jpstone: sorry, i have very little exposure to macs so i'm not sure what to suggest
[12:02] <mjayk> can anyone help me with my steam / optimus problems in ubuntu 15.04
[12:02] <jpstone> I'm not a huge mac guy but the full-screen swipe has me hooked
[12:02] <jpstone> best multitasking mode i've used
[12:03] <jpstone> xxhardxtremexx: going to check out pantheon thanks
[12:03] <auronandace> jpstone: something that has rather surprised me is the way i3 works with creating and destroying virtual workspaces
[12:03] <XxHardXtremexX> jpstone: NP ;)
[12:04] <auronandace> jpstone: just be aware if you are going to use a desktop environment from outside the repos (like via a ppa) we can't really render assistance
[12:04] <jpstone> I can't set the vertical workspaces to less than one :(
[12:04] <jpstone> in unity tools
[12:04] <jpstone> oh well
[12:04] <jpstone> I'll just ignore it i guess
[12:05] <zest_> can anyone help me with booting ubuntu after upgrading my mac os
[12:08] <auronandace> jpstone: you could try using ccsm to configure compiz to the way you like but be aware it has the potential to break unity
[12:08] <EriC^^> zest_: boot a live usb
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> jpstone  you mean unity-tweak-tool?
[12:09] <zest_> i tried that
[12:09] <zest_> i already hadd it on partition
[12:09] <zest_> and i installed refit
[12:09] <zest_> and it stopped working after the upgrade
[12:10] <EriC^^> zest_: ok, you need to fix it then
[12:10] <XxHardXtremexX> Only MATE desktop environment ;3
[12:10] <EriC^^> zest_: macosx probably overwrote the changes
[12:10] <XxHardXtremexX> zest_: Have you got other bootloader than GRUB installed after install mac osx update?
[12:11] <jpstone> yeah
[12:11] <jpstone> sweet, it's working like a charm
[12:11] <zest_> no i dont
[12:11] <jpstone> button 9 swipes to a workspace right, button 8 left
[12:11] <zest_> i tried the refind approach
[12:11] <zest_> that didnt work either
[12:11] <auronandace> !yay | jpstone
[12:11] <EriC^^> zest_: you tried to reinstall refind?
[12:12] <zest_> yeah
[12:12] <jpstone> thanks for the help guys
[12:12] <EriC^^> zest_: ok, boot the live usb, we can't do much from osx anyways
[12:12] <lpwxs> hello
[12:12] <zest_> after i boot live usb what then ?
[12:13] <lpwxs> everyone
[12:13] <EriC^^> install xchat or go to webchat.freenode.net and come here
[12:13] <vooze> I have a problem connecting to ANY VPN. It works just fine on my laptop, but desktop it cant. Both Ubuntu 15.04. I have tried with my normal user + another admin user. There is no error, since it does not even try to connect. It just does nothing. It also cant store VPN passwords.
[12:13] <Total_noob> What would be a good ratio of file size for split archives manimulation. The compromise of small and large.
[12:13] <mjayk> vooze: what are you using to connect to the vpn ?
[12:13] <vooze> mjayk: just network-manager from unity.
[12:14] <zest__> EriC^^
[12:14] <zest__> yeah is this fine
[12:14] <zest__> ?
[12:14] <EriC^^> zest__: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:15] <zest__> type it here?
[12:15] <EriC^^> no open a terminal and type it
[12:16] <Seveas> vooze: this may sound like a lame cop-out but did you try rebooting? I've seen this happen when nm-applet crashes and restarts and isn't fixed until a reboot.
[12:16] <zest__> efibootmgr: command not found
[12:16] <zest__> this is what i got
[12:16] <EriC^^> zest__: type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[12:16] <vooze> Seveas: yeah, I have :)
[12:16] <Seveas> vooze: check /var/log/syslog for messages from network-manager about no secrets or no agents found
[12:16] <vooze> I have even tried purging all the network-manager packages etc.
[12:16] <zest__> still didnt work
[12:17] <EriC^^> zest__: what do you mean?
[12:17] <EriC^^> zest__: type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[12:17] <EriC^^> does it exist?
[12:18] <zest__> no such directory
[12:18] <vooze> Seveas: good idea!
[12:18] <vooze> NetworkManager[7821]: <error> [1443874661.312215] [vpn-manager/nm-vpn-connection.c:1773] get_secrets_cb(): Failed to request VPN secrets #2: (6) No agents were available for this request.
[12:18] <EriC^^> zest__: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:19] <Seveas> vooze: yup. that's what I saw with the nm-applet crashes. Are you using nm-applet and the normal unity session?
[12:19] <vooze> Seveas: I think so :) just standard 15.04 - nothing fancy
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> zest__  what are you trying to do?
[12:19] <zest__> sudo: parted: command not found Use netcat.
[12:20] <EriC^^> zest__: is this an ubuntu live usb?
[12:20] <XxHardXtremexX> zest__: sudo apt-get install parted
[12:22] <Seveas> vooze: well, crap, then I'm out of ideas. The problem always went away for me after a reboot, so I never dug deeper :/ You could try removing/readding the vpn connection and playing with the 'all users may connect to this network' checkbox
[12:24] <zest__> this is what happened, i am new to all this. I installed ubuntu on a partition i created on my mac and it was working fine i booted it and used it. then after upgrading to elcapitan it didnt boot
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !mac | zest__
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> what's elcapitan?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> osx
[12:26] <vooze> Seveas: also did that :/ its really strange. But thanks for your help.
[12:26] <zest__> the new mac osx
[12:27] <zest__> i was reading that people where facing the same problem everytime they upgraded osx
[12:27] <ioria> zest__, do you have a bootable ubuntu usb ?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> zest__, might want to consult the mac resources --- very few mac ubuntu users here
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:27] <XxHardXtremexX> BluesKaj: Hi ;)
[12:28] <BluesKaj> hi XxHardXtremexX
[12:28] <zest__> i have a nootable usb
[12:28] <zest__> bootable
[12:28] <DERSEXER> hey all
[12:28] <ioria> zest__, why don't you run it ?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> DERSEXER  choose a family friendly nick
[12:29] <zest__> because i want to run it on the partition without the usb
[12:29] <zest__> or do you want me to reinstall ubuntu
[12:29] <cfhowlett> zest__, do you still get the grub boot menu?
[12:30] <cfhowlett> or refind or what IS your bootloader??
[12:30] <ioria> zest__, livecd is also a 'diagnostic tool' in some cases ... you choose 'try ubuntu'  , not 'install'
[12:30] <zest__> no i dont
[12:31] <zest__> i dont get the grub boot menue
[12:31] <cfhowlett> zest__, so it boots straight to OSX?
[12:31] <zest__> yes it does
[12:31] <cfhowlett> reinstall grub
[12:31] <cfhowlett> seems OSX rewrote your bootloader
[12:31] <zest__> cfhowlett, before the upgrade it booted straight to ubuntu
[12:31] <cfhowlett> and then you upgraded ...
[12:32] <zest__> yes
[12:32] <cfhowlett> sounds like you didn't read the mac wiki for dual boot.  you should
[12:32] <zest__> so what should i do now
[12:32] <zest__> ?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett:  does boot repair work with OSX mbr or whatever boot system it uses?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, no idea thus my suggestion (ignored) to read the wiki
[12:33] <derPATE> BluesKaj: can you help me
[12:33] <ioria> zest__, run the usb, and 'Try ubuntu without install '
[12:33] <zest__> i did that and it opened from the usb
[12:33] <ioria> zest__, are you inte livecd ?
[12:34] <ioria> *in the livecd
[12:34] <BluesKaj> derPATE:  state your issue and anyone who can help will, that's why we're here
[12:34] <derPATE> BluesKaj: i need to chose between xubu and ubu and mint
[12:34] <derPATE> BluesKaj: and deb. what do you recommend,
[12:34] <zest__> ioria, no i am not
[12:34] <ioria> zest__, why ?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> derPATE  making your own choices is part of growing up
[12:35] <cfhowlett> derPATE, be an adult.  choose.
[12:35] <zest__> ioria, should i be
[12:35] <zest__> MonkeyDust, hahaha
[12:35] <ioria> zest__, yes
[12:35] <ratrace> derPATE: when in doubt use https://www.random.org/coins/
[12:35] <zest__> ioria, sorry am a bit lost so i should boot for usb
[12:36] <ioria> zest__, yes
[12:36] <zest__> ioria, and then ?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> derPATE:  that's a personal choice, so many options, the beauty of linux ..however desktops are a matter of taste mostly , but also the hardware your pc has onboard
[12:36] <derPATE> BluesKaj: i7 4790k
[12:36] <derPATE> BluesKaj: 16 gig
[12:36] <ioria> zest__, then you can work on your partitions, as you like, repair, fixing blah, blah
[12:36] <derPATE> SSD
[12:38] <BluesKaj> derPATE:  then the best thing to do is try a few  live OSs and decide what you like best
[12:38] <cfhowlett> derPATE, install one.  install virtualbox.  test OS's in vbox to your heart's desire.
[12:52] <Lego_2015> Hey guyz.
[12:52] <derPATE> hi#
[12:53] <ace_me> help I get some unmet dependencies error when try to install php
[12:53] <ace_me> sudo apt-get install php5 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mcrypt
[12:53] <ace_me>  libapache2-mod-php5 : Depends: php5-common (= 5.4.45-1+deb.sury.org~precise+1) but 5.5.29+dfsg-1+deb.sury.org~precise+3 is to be installed
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> ace_me: did you add ppa's of any kind?
[12:54] <ace_me> I did but now I did removed it
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> ace_me: sudo apt-get update after?
[12:54] <ace_me> yes
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> ace_me: wich ubuntu version?
[12:54] <derPATE> ubuntu 14.04 lotuspsychje
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> !info php5 trusty
[12:55] <ace_me> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS"
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> ah
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> !info php5 precise
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> ace_me: the ppa's you removed were related to php?
[12:56] <XxHardXtremexX> !info dpkg trusty
[12:56] <ace_me> yes
[12:56] <ace_me> ondrej
[12:56] <ace_me>  ppa:ondrej/php5-oldstable
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> ace_me: maybe still old stuff remaining so new install wont work?
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> ace_me: did you use ppapurge?
[12:57] <ace_me> no
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | ace_me try maybe?
[12:58] <Lego_2015> Anybody here..?
[12:58] <ace_me> i have no ppa-purge
[12:58] <cfhowlett> !ask | Lego_2015,
[12:58] <bazhang> !info ppa-purge
[12:59] <bazhang> install it then ace_me
[13:00] <ace_me> bazhang ubottu it worked
[13:01] <ace_me> it cleaned up the packages and let me install the php5
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ace_me
[13:01] <ace_me> thank you mate
[13:01] <bazhang> ace_me, ubotu is a bot
[13:02] <ace_me> ok bazhang
[13:02] <bazhang> :)
[13:02] <indistylo> Bhai log error hai.
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> indistylo: can we help you?
[13:04] <indistylo> I have deleted 'global' directory from home folder,any way to recover it
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | indistylo sudo photorec after
[13:05] <indistylo> i used sudo rm -rfv global. .. Now methods suggested by ubottu will work?
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> indistylo: if photorec cant recover your lost data, its gone
[13:06] <cfhowlett> pretty sure -rfv is the "nuke it from space" option
[13:07] <ratrace> cfhowlett: orbit, nuke it from orbit
[13:07] <cfhowlett> ratrace, right right.
[13:08] <cfhowlett> :)
[13:08] <ratrace> :D
[13:08]  * lotuspsychje feels lost in outer space
[13:08] <loa> why nautilus is so bloated?
[13:08] <loa> i compare nautilus and pcmanfs
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> loa: define bloated
[13:08] <loa> pcmanfs is faster...\
[13:09] <loa> much more faster.
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> loa: do you also have a question?
[13:10] <auronandace> loa: it is called pcmanfm
[13:11] <ubuntu-mate> .
[13:14] <kuindios> Good Ubuntu community, I have the problem that the ".cache / upstart / gnome-session-Unity.log.1" file becomes larger and fills the disk memory. 30GB
[13:14] <kuindios> ubuntu 14.04 64bit
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> kuindios: clean system with bleachbit perhaps
[13:14] <badbodh> whoops. that's a lot of error dumping
[13:15] <badbodh> maybe read the log and find out? (jk)
[13:17] <kuindios> lotuspsychje: When I delete the file reappears.
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | kuindios try cleaning up
[13:20] <vooze> Serano: Just wanted to let you know I found the "problem" followed this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/533837/nm-applet-network-manager-cant-find-security-agent
[13:20] <kuindios> lotuspsychje ubottu: ok, I'll try
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> vooze: what were your symptons?
[13:22] <vooze> lotuspsychje: I was unable to connect to any VPN. I just got this error: Failed to request VPN secrets #2: (6) No agents were available for this request.
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> vooze: ok tnx 4 feedback
[13:22] <vooze> np :)
[13:29] <Lego_2015> I am not understanding anything you guyz are saying.
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> Lego_2015: you have joined an ubuntu support channel here
[13:29] <cfhowlett> Lego_2015, this is ubuntu support.  check your channel
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> Lego_2015: we try to solve issues here
[13:32] <Lego_2015> Yeah I believe I can see that.
[13:32] <Lego_2015> I was implying that my not understanding is not in any way related to the problems being solved or questions asked.
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !ask | Lego_2015,
[13:33] <auronandace> Lego_2015: feel free to lurk and learn if you really want to help
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> Lego_2015  are you in ubuntu now, your OS?
[13:45] <Lego_2015> Yes I am inside Ubuntu
[13:46] <Lego_2015> MonkeyDust: Yes I am in Ubuntu. I had divorced windows sometimes back.
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> lus
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[13:47] <nenad> anyoine here?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads.   read #0, #1, #2 ... you see the pattern.  You will learn the ins and outs of ubuntu in great detail. or this VVVV
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !manual
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !ask | nenad
[13:54] <Bleakwise> need help with fstab and cifs
[13:54] <Bleakwise> i have a dot in my password, so fstab breaks
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | Bleakwise
[13:55] <deepesh> hi
[13:55] <deepesh> am tryin to add user in linx my useradd name
[13:56] <deepesh> but when trying to find it in /home/
[13:56] <deepesh> am not able to find it
[13:56] <Bleakwise> neither of those links have anything about special characters or dots
[13:56] <deepesh> any help pls ??
[13:56] <Bleakwise> or periods
[13:56] <cfhowlett> !patience | deepesh
[13:56] <ratrace> deepesh: useradd has a flag to specify home directory, check its manual
[13:56] <ratrace> cfhowlett: you scared his connection into breaking :)
[13:57] <ratrace> deepesh: useradd has a flag to specify home directory, check its manual
[13:57] <cfhowlett> sonuva ... dang.
[13:57] <deepesh_> ratrace: i did that
[13:57] <deepesh_> specified the directory as well
[13:57] <deepesh_> it doesnot throws error but not able to locate the dir
[13:58] <ratrace> deepesh_: what was the exact command you used?
[13:58] <deepesh> ratrace, $ sudo useradd  /home/
[13:58] <deepesh> name
[13:59] <ratrace> deepesh: that's not how it works. please read the useradd manual. You need just -m to tell useradd to create a default homedir. don't specify the directory unless you know what you're doing, and then that's with -d or -b
[14:00] <auronandace> deepesh: sudo useradd mysuperawesomeusername
[14:01] <ratrace> auronandace: you forgot -m
[14:01] <auronandace> ratrace: well spotted
[14:05] <auronandace> deepesh: an alternative is sudo adduser
[14:05] <deepesh> ratrace, thanks a bunch
[14:05] <auronandace> deepesh: that will guide you through it
[14:08] <deepesh> auronandace, its creating the usr dir but am not able to do cd <dir>
[14:09] <deepesh> it says bash: cd: deepika: No such file or directory
[14:09] <deepesh> although its created thr
[14:09] <auronandace> deepesh: are you using the full path?
[14:09] <auronandace> deepesh: cd /home/deepika/
[14:10] <deepesh> no
[14:10] <deepesh> i did created a usr without -m earlier
[14:10] <deepesh> and its crtead but not able to do cd
[14:10] <auronandace> deepesh: if you are just doing cd deepika it will look for it in the current directory you are in (whih by default is /home/username/)
[14:11] <deepesh> am currently in /home
[14:11] <deepesh> and am doing cd /home/deep
[14:11] <A1234A> put ls
[14:11] <deepesh> although user exist but not able to CD
[14:11] <A1234A> does it shows deep
[14:12] <deepesh> yes
[14:12] <A1234A> then cd deep
[14:12] <deepesh> seems like its coz i didnt put -m while  adding user
[14:13] <ratrace> deepesh: if you did useradd without -m then no home directory is created, there should be no such dir in /home/
[14:13] <SopaXorzTaker> My bug followup: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1486896
[14:14] <ratrace> deepesh: please pastebin the output of command 'grep <username> /etc/passwd'  where <username> is the username you used for useradd
[14:14] <A1234A> deepesh : did you say the deep folder exist in home?
[14:16] <deepesh> ratrace, http://pastebin.com/SiyrHZVe
[14:18] <Jakey2> this works by keeping a track of your static ip?
[14:18] <Jakey2> http://dyn.com/remote-access/
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> Jakey2: ask in ##networking please
[14:18] <Jakey2> so if i have a script that emails/message me the current static ip i can login?
[14:19] <ratrace> deepesh: heh, you broke it. remove the invalid user "/home/deepika" with userdel "/home/deepika"
[14:20] <EriC^^> ^ use -r to remove the home dir and spools
[14:20] <EriC^^> sudo userdel -r /home/deepika ( if you don't have anything in that home dir you need )
[14:20] <stefano> ./install.sh
[14:20] <SopaXorzTaker> I accidentially posted my UEFI MSDM dump on launchpad. Does removing it completely wipe the file?
[14:22] <mhm4d> hi
[14:29] <A1234A> any technical channel suggestion? random tech talks.
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> !alis | A1234A
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> A1234A: ##hardware is pretty technical
[14:30] <akik> SopaXorzTaker: did you try adding acpi_osi=Linux ?
[14:31] <SopaXorzTaker> akik, that breaks stuff
[14:31] <akik> SopaXorzTaker: when i had problem with the laptop display brightness, i had to add both acpi_osi and acpi_backlight
[14:31] <A1234A> ty guys
[14:31] <SopaXorzTaker> I didn't, though :)
[14:31] <akik> SopaXorzTaker: what breaks?
[14:38] <highdivr> |-}
[14:46] <akik> SopaXorzTaker: when you add acpi_osi=Linux, what breaks?
[14:52] <execR> .
[14:54] <wakeatnight> hi i have a question
[14:54] <wakeatnight> i switched from fglrx to radeo again
[14:54] <wakeatnight> can i safely install mainline kernel (low-latency) from the ppa?
[14:55] <wakeatnight> radeon*
[14:59] <ranchtopz> Yes
[15:06] <wakeatnight> W: Failed to fetch http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/dists/vivid/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[15:06] <wakeatnight> why is that?
[15:06] <wakeatnight> (i added the mainline ppa)
[15:07] <k1l> that is not a PPA url. there is no dists folder
[15:07] <wakeatnight> it says so in the wiki
[15:08] <k1l> where does it say so? you need to download the packages manually
[15:08] <wakeatnight> oh
[15:09] <wakeatnight> so they won't get automatiacally updated?
[15:11] <k1l> no.
[15:12] <wakeatnight> ok
[15:12] <wakeatnight> i need headers - and kernel right? k1l^
[15:14] <k1l> yes
[15:16] <wakeatnight> thank you k1l
[15:19] <^2fC-HoT> lo all
[15:24] <iamwhoiam> hello people. A question concerning dolphin file manager (dont know if there is a better channel for this question): is there a keyboard shortcut that switches focus between folders and embedded terminal?
[15:29] <samsher> I have several corrupted memory cards from friends, is there anyway I can fix them on ubuntu?
[15:30] <akik> samsher: you can try to recover the lost data with photorec
[15:30] <samsher> akik: it does not detect the card
[15:31] <ioria> !info testdisk
[15:31] <rekt3ngle> hey there
[15:31] <Universe> woot?
[15:31] <Universe> lol
[15:31] <akik> samsher: ubuntu is able to do lots of things but it doesn't magically fix broken hw
[15:32] <rekt3ngle> akik: i wish it did :(
[15:32] <rekt3ngle> hey okuii
[15:33] <samsher> akik: ok, it means it's all gone if they don't detect it
[15:34] <okuii> what is the best wa&y to backup my 18 gb data , I have two 4 gb dvds , is there a linux software that can compress and burn the data at the same time inside the dvds ( i don't have enough disk space left to compress the data and then burn it )  ,
[15:35] <akik> okuii: i remember that using mkisofs and cdrecord i was able to do that. but this is from years ago
[15:36] <akik> gone poof
[15:36] <kuii> sorry i got disconnected , i asked about the data backup
[15:36] <akik> nowadays you could maybe look at growisofs
[15:37] <kuii> ?
[15:37] <kuii> any idea ?
[15:38] <deepesh> i am trying to use ssh command it throws error :
[15:39] <kuii> <akik ; does it do what i want ?
[15:39] <deepesh> home$ ssh deepika@192.168.1.102
[15:39] <deepesh> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.102 port 22: Connection refused
[15:40] <akik> kuii: i'm searching the internet for a guide
[15:41] <ratrace> deepesh: sounds like there's no ssh service running on 192.168.1.102
[15:41] <ioria> !backup | kuii
[15:41] <k1l> deepesh: is openssh-server installed on that other machine with that ip?
[15:41] <akik> i doubt 18 gigs compresses to 2x4.3 gigs
[15:41] <akik> could be, could be not
[15:42] <kuii>  <akik> i will buy to more then
[15:42] <ratrace> akik: a little over 2x compression rate, sounds legit
[15:46] <akik> you can pipe mkisofs output to cdrecord
[15:47] <akik> but i don't know how it handles the end of disc
[15:55] <akik> easiest would probably be to get more storage space
[15:56] <tahr210341> Hi, what is the difference between dhcpcd and ifdown commands ?
[16:00] <baizon> guys i have a question. I got ubuntu 14.04 and 12.04, so i have 2 grub installations, how do i switch the default grub?
[16:00] <wileee> baizon, which would you like default?
[16:01] <baizon> wileee: 14.04
[16:01] <baizon> which i install first
[16:01] <wileee> baizon, This msdos or uefi?
[16:01] <baizon> uefi
[16:01] <wileee> baizon, Ah, that helps to know, not exactly sure, in a msdos, you would just load the grub to the mbr from the de you want ruling.
[16:02] <wileee> someone will know
[16:05] <EriC^^> baizon: grub-install from the one you wnt
[16:05] <EriC^^> *want
[16:07] <baizon> EriC^^: thank you :)
[16:07] <EriC^^> baizon: no problem
[16:10] <David_Ruan> Hello!
[16:20] <pietro> ciao
[16:22] <fandi> hi all, i 'm looking for preseed ubuntu 14.04 with mutli volume and advanced networking for bond eth
[16:22] <fandi> can some one give me a clue for this :)
[16:22] <Lego_2015> Hi y'all I am back. I was just rebooting myself.
[16:23] <ace_me> the server date shows EDT
[16:23] <ace_me> EDT is ?
[16:24] <akik> EDT is the daylight savings timezone for EST
[16:24] <ace_me> if I send an email from there with php to a visitor... what time should I output in the email if he is in another country ? for example europe
[16:25] <ace_me> frome there = that server
[16:25] <chrisss123456> anyone use bibtex? I'm just trying to export my citations and nothings working...
[16:25] <ratrace> ace_me: UTC
[16:25] <freeroute> !15.10
[16:25] <ace_me> should I send for example you received an email at 12 UTC ?
[16:26] <ratrace> ace_me: it doesn't matter as long as you specify a valid ISO format with timezone
[16:26] <Lego_2015> What's new on Ubuntu 15.10 Wily Werewolf.
[16:27] <freeroute> Lego_2015: new kernel and packages mainly
[16:28] <Lego_2015> There ain't much improvement in Ubuntu distroz except only for patching and kernel updates.
[16:28] <freeroute> as it should be
[16:29] <tspange> Here.
[16:29] <Lego_2015> I know the kernel is the heart of all Linux distroz and it's update
[16:30] <ratrace> Lego_2015: spelling with z only makes you sound lame
[16:30] <Guest30475> + ratrace
[16:30] <freeroute> tspange: thanks for arriving at such short notice. You'll be briefed further instructions shortly.
[16:30] <Lego_2015> and upgrade is adviced....But what are some of the services being incorporated in the kernel.?
[16:31] <wileee> Lego_2015, This is direct support is all, not research.
[16:31] <ratrace> Lego_2015: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes
[16:31] <k1l> Lego_2015: better hardware support, for example
[16:32] <ace_me> I get a doctrine/migrations dev-master requires php >=5.4.0 -> your PHP version (5.3.10-1ubuntu3.20) or "config.platform.php" value does not satisfy that requirement.
[16:32] <Lego_2015> ratrace: I am sorry but spelling depends with whom my English teacher was. Hahaha...But thank you for the correction.
[16:32] <ace_me> what is config.platform.php
[16:32] <linocisco> hi all
[16:33] <linocisco> bazhang, hi
[16:33] <Lego_2015> wileee: Yes. True. But, it also offers a platform for discussion.
[16:33] <linocisco> my problem of ubuntu 15.04 64 bit and Canon LBP3050 is not fixed
[16:34] <auronandace> !discuss | Lego_2015
[16:35] <Lego_2015> What's up with bluetooth in Ubuntu distros especiall with intel-based cpu's.
[16:35] <k1l> Lego_2015: in general it works.
[16:36] <k1l> Lego_2015: please stick to specific support issues with giving details.
[16:37] <wileee> linocisco, I see up to 10.04 from canon and a ubuntu wiki, telling what you have done will help you get help, if you can consolidate it
[16:37] <ace_me> is there anywhere a config.platform.php ?
[16:38] <ace_me> composer refuses to install complaining about a possible php version trouble in config.platform.php
[16:38] <Lego_2015> In relation to connecting mobile based devices. Though it doesn't give errors with details but it just won't connect.
[16:38] <urbanendeavour> How do I display the runlevels for a service?
[16:38] <ace_me> ... requires php >=5.4.0 -> your PHP version (5.3.10-1ubuntu3.20)
[16:38] <__Myst__> Heya~
[16:39] <ace_me> how that the composer see that version ?
[16:39] <ace_me> (5.3.10-1ubuntu3.20)
[16:39] <__Myst__> I was wondering if I should switch to Chrome/Chromium in Ubuntu if I want to use Flash or what?
[16:39] <ace_me> that's not a standar name afaik
[16:39] <__Myst__> Firefox has no support
[16:40] <wileee> __Myst__, There is the flashplugin installer older flash or pepperflash like in chrome, some open source.
[16:40] <__Myst__> wileee: Exactly. order flash
[16:40] <wileee> you can have pepper run in any browser
[16:40] <__Myst__> How can I use PepperFlash in Firefox? I use it in Chromium
[16:41] <wileee> __Myst__, I just found the info on the web, lots there on pepper in FF.
[16:42] <__Myst__> I'll look up "PepperFlash Firefox"
[16:43] <wileee> __Myst__, This looks correct basically, been awhile since I messed with it however. http://www.webupd8.org/2015/01/fresh-player-plugin-sees-new-release.html
[16:43] <wileee> jan 15 is all 2015
[16:45] <Lego_2015> Bye Guyz. Thanks.
[16:54] <kendo> I would like to know if it is possible to take an external drive, that has Kubuntu on it, and boot it up on a different computer (other than the one it was installed on)?
[16:56] <EriC^^> kendo: does it have it's own efi partition or mbr if it's legacy?
[16:57] <kendo> Yes, it does, it was set up to boot Ubuntu and Win.
[16:58] <EriC^^> kendo: ok, so it's uefi?
 yes is does
[16:59] <EriC^^> ok, on the other pc you should try to get a boot menu to boot it
[16:59] <kendo> Must I add it to Grub?
[17:00] <EriC^^> the new pc has grub already>
[17:00] <EriC^^> ?
[17:00] <kendo> Yes
[17:00] <EriC^^> ok, boot the old install and run sudo update-grub if you want
[17:01] <kendo> Ok, Thank You, I will try that.
[17:01] <EriC^^> if it doesn't boot and hangs, you might need to chroot from the old install and then run sudo update-initramfs -u -k all
[17:01] <EriC^^> to update the initrd
[17:01] <EriC^^> so it works with the new pc
[17:01] <EriC^^> kendo: no problem
[17:02] <kendo> Yes, that worked. Thank's again EriC
[17:02] <freeroute> anyone use ubuntu on Lenovo Z50? Experiences?
[17:02] <freeroute> hw support?
[17:03] <wileee> levitates with ubuntu
[17:03] <EriC^^> kendo: np
[17:04] <ablest> hello
[17:04] <ablest> my terminal says ablest1980@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ i want ablest@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ how may i change it?
[17:05] <yacc> ablest: either change your username, or alternatively change PS1 in .bashrc
[17:06] <ablest> i changed user name
[17:06] <yacc> ablest: the PS1 prompt is taking the username, but nobody said that you cannot just change it to a constant that is different from your username.
[17:07] <ablest> how do i change ps1 in .bashrc?
[17:07] <yacc> echo $PS1 to see the current value
[17:08] <yacc> PS1=newvalue (you probably should replace \u with what you want and leave the rest alone)
[17:08] <yacc> When happy, add that assignment to .bashrc
[17:08] <yacc> in your home directory ;)
[17:08] <ablest> im a noob
[17:09] <EriC^^> ablest: if you changed your username it should change as well
[17:09] <EriC^^> ablest: did you create a new user called ablest?
[17:09] <ablest> yes
[17:09] <EriC^^> type id
[17:09] <ablest> ok
[17:10] <ablest> ablest1980@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ id
[17:10] <ablest> uid=1001(ablest1980) gid=1001(ablest1980) groups=1001(ablest1980),4(adm),27(sudo),108(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[17:10] <EriC^^> you're not logged into it right now
[17:10] <EriC^^> type id ablest
[17:10] <ablest> oablest1980@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ id
[17:10] <ablest> uid=1001(ablest1980) gid=1001(ablest1980) groups=1001(ablest1980),4(adm),27(sudo),108(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[17:10] <ablest> k
[17:10] <ablest> ok
[17:10] <ablest> sorry
[17:11] <ablest> ablest1980@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ id ablest
[17:11] <ablest> id: ablest: no such use
[17:11] <ablest> r
[17:11] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo adduser ablest to create it
[17:11] <ablest> ok
[17:12] <urbanendeavour> what is the equivalent to chkconfig --list?
[17:13] <ablest> ok
[17:13] <ablest> same
[17:13] <EriC^^> ablest: type sudo usermod -aG adm,sudo,lpadmin,sambashare ablest
[17:14] <wileee> urbanendeavour, run on what file type?
[17:14] <ablest> not found it says
[17:14] <EriC^^> what's not found?
[17:14] <akik> urbanendeavour: sysv-rc-conf --list
[17:15] <ablest> ablest1980@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ type sudo usermod -aG adm,sudo,lpadmin,sambashare ablest
[17:15] <ablest> sudo is /usr/bin/sudo
[17:15] <ablest> usermod is /usr/sbin/usermod
[17:15] <ablest> bash: type: -aG: not found
[17:15] <ablest> bash: type: adm,sudo,lpadmin,sambashare: not found
[17:15] <ablest> bash: type: ablest: not found
[17:15] <EriC^^> ablest: you typed type
[17:15] <k1l> !paste | ablest use it!
[17:16] <ablest> ty
[17:16] <EriC^^> ablest: type crontab -l
[17:16] <ablest> ok
[17:16] <EriC^^> do you have anything there?
[17:17] <ablest> no crontab for ablest1980
[17:17] <EriC^^> ok, did you run the usermod command?
[17:17] <ablest> no
[17:17] <EriC^^> ok, run it
[17:17] <ablest> i mean yes
[17:18] <EriC^^> ok
[17:18] <ablest> not found
[17:18] <EriC^^> ablest: sudo usermod -aG adm,sudo,lpadmin,sambashare ablest
[17:18] <EriC^^> you had typed type in the front
[17:19] <ablest> you know the * thing next to the clock on ubuntu ?
[17:19] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:19] <ablest> its show too ablest
[17:20] <ablest> two
[17:20] <EriC^^> hmm
[17:20] <EriC^^> we'll see that in a bit
[17:20] <ablest> ok
[17:20] <EriC^^> did you run the usermod command?
[17:20] <ablest> should i logout?
[17:21] <EriC^^> do you have a lot of stuff in your home dir?
[17:21] <EriC^^> nevermind
[17:22] <ablest> idk
[17:22] <ablest> it create the name i have to login
[17:22] <EriC^^> logout, then press ctrl+alt+f1, login to ablest, then type sudo rm -r /home/ablest , then type sudo mv /home/ablest1980 /home/ablest
[17:22] <ablest> ok brb
[17:22] <EriC^^> dont mix the commands up
[17:22] <EriC^^> or something
[17:23] <EriC^^> crap, forgot to tell him to run a chown
[17:25] <wileee> this lies in if you have to ask, but you're good for helping, will they remember is the question
[17:26] <urbanendeavour> akik: that is not installed by default, what is the system way of doing it by default?
[17:26] <EriC^^> he kind of ran off, i was typing a message still, it's ok it's nothing fatal i guess
[17:26] <akik> urbanendeavour: update-rc.d or systemctl
[17:26] <wileee> yeah, they will be okay and probably back
[17:27] <urbanendeavour> akik: there is no way of displaying info with update-rc.d
[17:27] <akik> urbanendeavour: i don't follow you
[17:27] <urbanendeavour> I want to display the run level for a given service, not set them
[17:28] <akik> urbanendeavour: you can then just look into /etc/rcN.d (N is runlevel)
[17:28] <akik> but then again systemd is a whole new beast
[17:29] <ablest> now i cant delete the other login
[17:29] <ablest> says Deleting a user while they are logged in can leave the system in an inconsistent state.
[17:29] <EriC^^> ablest: did you login to ablest?
[17:29] <DomiX> Hi, I'd like to upgrade to 15.10 from 15.04 with sudo do-release-upgrade -d from cli, but it results in "no new release available", there is no way to upgrade ?
[17:30] <ablest> its logged in both
[17:30] <ablest> how do i logout the other one
[17:30] <EriC^^> ablest: press the * and click on the name then logout
[17:31] <k1l> DomiX: what says the last line of " cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" ?
[17:31] <EriC^^> ablest: don't delete anything yet, did you run the sudo mv command?
[17:32] <ablest> it works everything fine ty
[17:32] <ablest> i delete the other account
[17:32] <EriC^^> ablest: your files are in the home dir?
[17:32] <ablest> ablest@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$
[17:32] <EriC^^> ( /home/ablest ) ?
[17:32] <ablest> yes
[17:33] <EriC^^> ok, type ls -l /home/ablest
[17:33] <EriC^^> is the user ablest or ablest1980 for the owner and group?
[17:33] <ablest> ablest
[17:33] <EriC^^> ok
[17:34] <ablest> ty
[17:34] <EriC^^> np
[17:34] <ablest> :)
[17:34] <EriC^^> is there still 2 ablest near the * ?
[17:34] <DomiX> k1l: found the problem, nic was not correctly configured (disconnect and reconnect give me ip address from dhcp)
[17:34] <ablest> no
[17:34] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[17:35] <ablest> i changed the other ablest to the old name and deleted it
[17:35] <urbanendeavour> akik: So lets say I install nginx, how do I check that it is enabled at boot? Go hunting around in /etc/rc.*?
[17:35] <EriC^^> ablest: ok
[17:35] <ablest> wait
[17:35] <ablest> nvm
[17:37] <urbanendeavour> It's service --status-all
[17:40] <DexterF> Kamilion, are you around? I'd like the snappy kernel 4.2 source or at least the .config file, no idea where to get it, though
[17:47] <Brisr> I installed zentayl packages (webui for server) then removed it. Now networking is screwed. Network-manager is installed and running but I can't see any wireless networks
[17:47] <Brisr> any ideas?
[17:49] <Brisr> anyone help a noob with broken network interface
[17:50] <bazhang> Zentyal is for server Brisr
[17:51] <Seveas> Brisr: sorry, zentyal is not supported. If installing it broke your computer and you don't know how to fix it, reinstalling may be best.
[17:51] <Brisr> ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/kDPSveHF
[17:51] <Brisr> Seveas, seems a bit drastic!
[17:52] <Brisr> bazhang, Yeah just wanted to have a look (should have used a vm)
[17:53] <Brisr> Is there a list of packages that provide the avahi stuff ubuntu does?
[17:54] <Brisr> eth0 is working as i'm here..
[17:55] <akik> urbanendeavour: also /usr/lib/insserv/insserv --showall
[17:55] <stemid> what dictates which permissions are on the mount point that autofs creates? I've run into an issue where it's created with no permissions at all. since this dir doesn't exist until autofs creates it, how do I set its mode?
[17:57] <zykotick9> stemid: is this extX OR fat or ntfs?
[17:59] <stemid> zykotick9: nfs
[18:00] <zykotick9> stemid: ummm.  sorry i don't have any suggestions for that either (but verify the permissions on the remote perhaps?)  good luck.
[18:01] <stemid> yes from what I've read the mount point adopts the permissions of the root dir of the nfs share.
[18:01] <akik> stemid: nfs permissions should come from the nfs server after you have mounted it
[18:02] <akik> stemid: remember that by default root is not root on the nfs share (use no_root_squash if you want to change that)
[18:02] <stemid> only confirms what I've always suspected. my nas (synology ds411slim) has changed somehow. all this started when its raid crashed and I remade it with larger disks and after that I couldn't get the nfs permissions right on it.
[18:03] <ben_g> Since PinguyOS is based on Ubuntu, can I also ask questions about that OS here?
[18:04] <Seveas> ben_g: nope.
[18:04] <bazhang> #PinguyOS ben_g
[18:05] <ben_g> Okay, I just came here since there's no one in #PinguyOS.
[18:11] <wileee> ben_g, There's a ##linux general channel if you're registered with freenode.
[18:14] <gartral> hey guys, quick, if derp question, how do I check the blocksize of an SD card? i'm on ubuntu 14.04
[18:15] <akik> gartral: tune2fs -l /dev/sdN1 etc.
[18:16] <akik> there is a line with the block size
[18:16] <NicholasCage> Has anyone here installed the linReaper package ?
[18:16] <gartral> akik: can I use that for /dev/sdX without the partition?
[18:17] <akik> gartral: probably not
[18:17] <akik> gartral: and tune2fs handle ext filesystems
[18:18] <gartral> akik: ahh, i need something for fat
[18:20] <akik> gartral: you might look into dosfstools then
[18:20] <akik> gartral: there's fsck.msdos there which might show something
[18:23] <gartral> akik: I said screw it and used the normal disk utility :P
[18:23] <thatguy> is there any dictionary app which is integrated good into gnome? best would be if I could just type "d word" into the this overall search by gnome, but another easy solution would also do
[18:24] <Abe> hey I did an apt-get autoremove and now it said  you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]
[18:24] <Abe> what does that mean it never said that before
[18:25] <k1l> Abe: run "sudo update-grub"
[18:25] <Abe> ok thank you
[18:25] <k1l> Abe: it may have removed older kernels that are maybe still present in the grub starting screen, until you tell grub to make itself a new list of installed kernels. which that command is for
[18:26] <Abe> do I have to do something else
[18:26] <Abe> ?
[18:26] <k1l> no
[18:26] <Abe> ok thanks very much k1l
[18:26] <Abe> *thank you
[18:27] <akik> gartral: for the next time, fsck.fat -v :)
[18:27] <gartral> akik kk
[18:31] <Quantumpants> hi guys using the terminal i just tried to get and install Tor web browser.  the message in Terminal is: Unable to locate package tor-browser.  any help guys would be great
[18:31] <gartral> akik: also, on my system the sdcard comes up as /dev/mmcblkNpN >.<
[18:31] <akik> a device is a device is a device
[18:32] <akik> so it doesn't matter what the device name is
[18:32] <gartral> akik: I was getting frustrated because "ls /dev | grep sd" wasn't showing my sd card :P
[18:32] <akik> gartral: use lsblk
[18:32] <Quantumpants> hi guys using the terminal i just tried to get and install Tor web browser.  the message in Terminal is: Unable to locate package tor-browser.  any help guys would be great
[18:33] <LightweightOS> Hey, I have an error message from trying to create a partition on my usb drive. Not sure how to fix it. Here is the error message: Error wiping newly created partition /dev/sdb1: Command-line `wipefs -a "/dev/sdb1"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: wipefs: error: /dev/sdb1: probing initialization failed: No such file or directory  (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[18:33] <gartral> Quantumpants: you probably don't have all the repos active, also, the version of tor in repos is probably old
[18:34] <k1l> !tor | Quantumpants
[18:35] <Quantumpants> Gartral. how do i fix that?
[18:41] <gartral> Quantumpants: follow the instructions ubottu gave yo
[18:47] <loren> hello everyone
[18:47] <Bomber4Chats> heyo
[18:47] <loren> I need help
[18:47] <Bomber4Chats> I need some help with my fstab
[18:47] <Bomber4Chats> apparently I have a bad UUID somewhere in there, but I'm not usre which
[18:47] <loren> does anyone know how do I log out from my desktop from terminal?
[18:48] <loren> I installed i3 wm to try it out, I don't feel confortable in it, and I want to switch back to my desktop enviornment. how do I log out?
[18:48] <loren> I feel dumb
[18:49] <k1l> loren: restart the xserver will bring you to the login screen: sudo service lightdm restart
[18:49] <loren> thanks
[18:51] <Guest75446> hello
[18:51] <khax> hi
[18:51] <loren> I restarted xserver, but I'm not in the login screen
[18:52] <Guest75446> i used gparted how can change partition permissions root to me?
[18:52] <elll> hello does someone know how to change the indicator dots for opened app in Plank for Arc theme? what should I look for in the gtk-contained.css ?
[18:53] <Guest75446> i cannot create one folder
[18:53] <ikonia> Guest75446: sorry, what's your question ?
[18:54] <loren> can't you just use sudo?
[18:54] <Bomber4Chats> if I make a bakcup of my fstab, how do I recover it / where should I be doing my recovery?
[18:54] <Guest75446> i used gparted how can change partition permissions root to me?
[18:54] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats: just copy the old file over the new one
[18:54] <ikonia> Guest75446: gparted is not used for setting permissions
[18:54] <Bomber4Chats> I need to delete a bad partition i have in the fstab that's causing me to not have access to xauthority (it's not found)
[18:54] <ikonia> Guest75446: what's the problem you've got
[18:54] <Bomber4Chats> in the grub menu?
[18:54] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats: fstab should not block access to xauthority
[18:55] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats: that seems very unlikley
[18:55] <Bomber4Chats> well, what's for certain is that when I'm in my login screen, It goes 1/4 of the way through and then restarts
[18:55] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats: so your xauthority file is in your home directoy,
[18:55] <Bomber4Chats> all the lookups i did on forums, stackoverflow and google in general point to xauthority access getting messed up because of a bad FSTAB
[18:55] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats: is your home directory on a seperate partition ?
[18:55] <Bomber4Chats> it should be, yes
[18:56] <Bomber4Chats> um, I don't think so, no
[18:56] <ikonia> this is very unlikely to be a problem with fstab
[18:56] <Guest4778> H
[18:56] <Guest4778> l
[18:56] <Bomber4Chats> OK, then if not, but it has to do with xauthority, what am I supposed to do to try to fix/clean my access to xauthority
[18:56] <Bomber4Chats> I've tried setting chmod and everything
[18:56] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats: explain what's happening
[18:57] <Bomber4Chats> as I mentioned
[18:57] <ikonia> you've not given a clear description of the proble
[18:57] <ikonia> problem
[18:57] <Bomber4Chats> if I do a regular kubuntu load up, I reach the login screen. I log iin succesfully, but as it load up 1/4 of the way, I get a black screen and it resets back to the login screen
[18:57] <ikonia> that doesn't suggest xauthority to me
[18:58] <Bomber4Chats> I have to boot up to a recovery mode, run clean and then I can run "semi-regularily"
[18:58] <ikonia> what makes you think that is the problme ?
[18:58] <Bomber4Chats> howver -
[18:58] <Bomber4Chats> when I do the clean up
[18:58] <Bomber4Chats> I get an error saying that xauthority file or folder is not found
[18:58] <Guest75446> i create with gparted one partition and i can not used this partition  is root and can not create one folder, how  can change permissions to "me"???
[18:58] <Bomber4Chats> something with a quark thing
[18:58] <gryf> ,v xfdesktop
[18:58] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats: can you get the exact error please
[18:58] <Bomber4Chats> cannot ainitiate xautohirty
[18:58] <Bomber4Chats> yeah, one sec
[18:58] <gryf> erh. There is no judd equivalent for ubuntu in there ? :'(
[18:59] <ikonia> Guest75446: ?
[18:59] <gryf> How to check what version is a package fast ?
[18:59] <ikonia> gryf: ?
[18:59] <gryf> from the ubuntu version
[18:59] <ikonia> look in the package manager
[18:59] <ikonia> it lists all the installed packages
[19:01] <Bomber4Chats> Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)"
[19:01] <Bomber4Chats> the clean up works after i reboot after it
[19:01] <Bomber4Chats> but everytime i have to bootup be recovery and clean before I can run my system
[19:01] <Bomber4Chats> I can't do a straight forward normal bootup, because the login loop happens
[19:02] <akik> Bomber4Chats: i don't know if this helps but do you have xauth command installed?
[19:02] <no_gravity> Hello! Anybody here who knows how to connect a bluetooth keyboard to an ubuntu laptop?
[19:02] <Bomber4Chats> not sure
[19:02] <Bomber4Chats> what should I check?
[19:02] <akik> Bomber4Chats: for example, xauth list
[19:02] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats: are you in your system now ?
[19:02] <Bomber4Chats> you, I've got it
[19:03] <Bomber4Chats> yes I am, but after cleaning up
[19:03] <Bomber4Chats> from recovery
[19:03] <Bomber4Chats> I have xauth*
[19:03] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats: would you please pastebin the ouptut of the command mount
[19:03] <Bomber4Chats> lev-X550LA/unix:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  61334ed35412e2d5e7b714d47b3175eb
[19:04] <name_> help please , my disk is fine i keep getting this message http://imgur.com/YQ9x1Ub
[19:05] <ikonia> name_: doesn't look like the disk is fine, looks like it's struggling to read it
  but i tested in in the bios it says it s working
[19:06] <ioria> name_ and 14.10 is end of life
[19:06] <ikonia> name_: thats a test of the drive, not the media
[19:07] <akik> Bomber4Chats: did you check your home directory that .Xauthority is owned by you?
[19:07] <Bomber4Chats> yes. Let me try doing this from the terminal on a regular boot up. brb
[19:07] <name_> ikonia ; do you mean by the media the usb flash that ia m installing from ?
[19:08] <AndroUser> This is bomber on my android Irc
[19:08] <AndroUser> I'll talk to you from here
[19:08] <Bomber4Chats> brb
[19:08] <ikonia> name_: yes, or the software that makes the USB
[19:09] <AndroUser> What's the command to check /set ownership? Chmod 500?
[19:09] <ikonia> AndroUser: you don't want to do that
[19:09] <name_> <ikonia; what do u suggest me to do ?
[19:09] <ikonia> AndroUser: please give me the ouptut I asked for
[19:09] <AndroUser> What?
[19:09] <ikonia> AndroUser: please show me the output of the command "mount" in a pastebin please
[19:10] <AndroUser> OK 1 sec
[19:10] <AndroUser> Not sure I can pastebin it as I don't have the ability to access the data from my regular boot up to my recovery
[19:11] <name_> ikonia ; ?
[19:11] <AndroUser> But i hope to pass relevant info
[19:11] <ikonia> AndroUser: show me the fstab that you currently have on your install then please
[19:11] <ikonia> AndroUser: (use a pastebin)
[19:11] <akik> AndroUser: did you see this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/614198/starting-version-219-bug-after-the-15-04-update (it talks about having a login manager other than sddm)
[19:11] <AndroUser> I did
[19:12] <AndroUser> There are too many possibilities to the reason for my problem
[19:12] <ikonia> thats why I'm asking you for info so I can work it through
[19:12] <AndroUser> And I tried almost all of them except for cleaning the fstab
[19:12] <ikonia> so you stop doing random gues work
[19:12] <Quantumpants> how can i get intu this "/etc/apt/sources.list" to add some code
[19:12] <AndroUser> Alright, let's work on fstab first
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> Quantumpants  sudo -e /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:12] <ikonia> ok - I'm going to back away from this AndroUser, it's impossible to help you if you don't give the info you are asked for and keep trying random things
[19:13] <AndroUser> I meant I was going to provide you with the info you asked
[19:14] <no_gravity> Anybody here ever used bluetooth with ubuntu?
[19:15] <wakeatnight> hi
[19:15] <mjayk> no_gravity: i do
[19:15] <david89> Hello. I just finished setting up a ubuntu laptop, what can I do so the keyboard shortcuts gets show on next boot?
[19:15] <no_gravity> mjayk: what kind of bluetooth device?
[19:15] <wakeatnight> i use openbox, how do i start gnome-keyring unlocked when my tty logs in the user?
[19:15] <wakeatnight> i am using no login manager^
[19:16] <AndroUser> http://m.imgur.com/gFJ2Waa
[19:16] <mjayk> no_gravity: quite a few phones speakers mice etc
[19:16] <AndroUser> ikonia - http://m.imgur.com/gFJ2Waa
[19:16] <no_gravity> mjayk: im trying to pair a keyboard. no idea how to go about it. you?
[19:16] <ikonia> AndroUser: there is nothing wrong with your fstab, do not waste time on it
[19:17] <AndroUser> OK, thank you.
[19:17] <mjayk> no_gravity: everything ive used just work fine through the bluetooth setting manager
[19:17] <ikonia> AndroUser: look at your authority file (.xauthority) and the permissions on your home directory to make sure it can be written to
[19:17] <no_gravity> mjayk: where is the bluetooth setting manager?
[19:18] <AndroUser> So from what I understand I should check the ownership of my xauthority file. Cool. Could I please have the command to do so? Chmod?
[19:18] <ikonia> no]
[19:18] <ikonia> ls -la against it
[19:18] <fabri86live> ciao
[19:18] <ikonia> and ls -la against your home directory
[19:18] <fabri86live> !list
[19:18] <AndroUser> Alright
[19:18] <wakeatnight> anyone knows about gnome-keyring?
[19:18] <mjayk> im using ubuntu gnome so its just a program called bluetooth, but i think if you just look in settings there is a bluetooth icon
[19:18] <ikonia> wakeatnight: what about it ?
[19:18] <wakeatnight> i use openbox, how do i start gnome-keyring unlocked when my tty logs in the user?
[19:18] <AndroUser> It has - rw--------
[19:18] <wakeatnight> i am using no login manager^
[19:18] <wakeatnight> ikonia:^
[19:18] <AndroUser> . Xauthority
[19:18] <ikonia> wakeatnight: you use your openbox sessions manager to launch it
[19:19] <ikonia> AndroUser: need the full line
[19:19] <AndroUser> Right, sorry.
[19:19] <wakeatnight> ikonia: you mean xinitc?
[19:19] <MicroAlien> Does anyone know python?
[19:19] <wakeatnight> i tried (from the arhc wiki) didn'T work
[19:19] <fabri86live> ciao
[19:19] <ikonia> MicroAlien: people in #python do
[19:19] <fabri86live> !list
[19:20] <AndroUser> -rw--------  1 nlev   nlev      56 Oct 3 15:11 .Xauthority
[19:20] <ikonia> AndroUser: and you login as the user nlev ?
[19:21] <no_gravity> mjayk: found the bluetooth manager thing
[19:21] <AndroUser> Yes
[19:21] <wakeatnight> ikonia: you know a way to start it?
[19:21] <no_gravity> mjayk: strangely it wont find my keybord now
[19:21] <ikonia> AndroUser: then there is no problem aith your actual xauthority file, what is the permissions on your home directory
[19:21] <AndroUser> How do I check please?
[19:21] <ikonia> wakeatnight: yes, gnome-keyring
[19:22] <AndroUser> I am currently on my home directory
[19:22] <ikonia> AndroUser: ls -la on your home directory, as I said earlier
[19:22] <wakeatnight> anyone knows about gnome-keyring?
[19:22] <wakeatnight> it doesn't start
[19:22] <wakeatnight> i tried the info from arch wiki
[19:22] <AndroUser> Well, I did that.
[19:22] <wakeatnight> setting it in xinitrc
[19:22] <AndroUser> It shows the permissions for all the files in the home directory
[19:22] <ikonia> AndroUser: your interested in "."
[19:23] <ikonia> at the top of the list
[19:23] <wakeatnight> then i tried it in openbox's autostart.sh
[19:23] <wakeatnight> any help would be great :/
[19:23] <ikonia> wakeatnight: the session manager within openbox
[19:23] <AndroUser> Hmm,I can't seem to less ls - la
[19:24] <ikonia> AndroUser: cd $HOME
[19:24] <wakeatnight> ikonia: what is that?
[19:24] <ikonia> AndroUser: ls -la .
[19:24] <ikonia> wakeatnight: whatever session manager you configure it to use
[19:24] <wakeatnight> i doN't use one
[19:24] <wakeatnight> i use tty
[19:24] <ikonia> wakeatnight: you use a tty ?
[19:24] <ikonia> what do you mean ?
[19:24] <wakeatnight> text based login
[19:24] <wakeatnight> no login manager
[19:24] <AndroUser> Did that. I can't view "."  because the ate too many lines
[19:24] <ikonia> wakeatnight: I didn't say anything about a login manager
[19:25] <ikonia> AndroUser: ls -la | more
[19:25] <AndroUser> More, gotcha.. Here it comes
[19:25] <wakeatnight> i don't use GNOME/Openbox or something like that
[19:25] <wakeatnight> i run openbox as-is
[19:25] <ikonia> wakeatnight: right, ?
[19:25] <wakeatnight> hm?
[19:26] <ikonia> wakeat/join #fedora
[19:26] <ikonia> ops
[19:26] <ikonia> sorry
[19:26] <ikonia> typo
[19:26] <wakeatnight> ok
[19:26] <AndroUser> drwxr-xr-x  99 nlev  nlev      4096 Oct    3 15:12 .
[19:26] <ikonia> AndroUser: so thats great, there should be nothing that would stop a process you own writing to .xauthority in your home dir
[19:26] <wakeatnight> can you help me what to do to get it running? assume the only things that run within openbox in my case are .xinitc and autostart.sh...
[19:26] <AndroUser> 😕
[19:27] <ikonia> wakeatnight: not really, openbox is not a default desktop in ubuntu,
[19:27] <wakeatnight> but i am still running ubuntu ;)
[19:27] <AndroUser> And yet I get black screens on login. 😕
[19:27] <ikonia> wakeatnight: I'd need an install to work it through
[19:27] <wakeatnight> hm
[19:27] <ikonia> AndroUser: you get a black screen ? you said you got an error before
[19:27] <cridev>  #xfce master race
[19:27] <wakeatnight> ok thanks anyway i see where i can find some info
[19:27] <AndroUser> The error came up on clean operation in recovery mode
[19:28] <AndroUser> The other issue is when I do a regular boot up
[19:28] <ikonia> wakeatnight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2173126
[19:28] <ikonia> AndroUser: so I've just worked through the problem you told me you had
[19:28] <waszor> Hi, I have some problems to figure out wich packages I need for H.264 playback in firefox - I tried gstreamer0.10-plugins-good and ffmpeg so far
[19:28] <ikonia> you've now listed another problem you've not mentioned once during our conversation that is totally different
[19:28] <waszor> maybe worth to mention that I deactivated the auto installation of recommend packages
[19:28] <waszor> my installation is based on the minimal cd
[19:28] <AndroUser> Right, I apologize for that
[19:29] <AndroUser> My research led me to belive that the issue relies somewhere between the fstab and the xauthority file
[19:29] <AndroUser> As I've observed what happened in recovery mode which helps me to login, and regular boot up which gave me a black screen + login reset
[19:30] <ikonia> AndroUser: thats totally different
[19:32] <david89> How can I get grub to only show ubuntu and windows?
[19:32] <david89> only*
[19:32] <ikonia> david89: what else does it show ?
[19:33] <david89> ikonia: advanced something and 2 memtest
[19:33] <ikonia> david89: why do you not what that, they are important
[19:33] <david89> ikonia: don't worry
[19:33] <ikonia> I'm not
[19:33] <Dinosaurio> david89: graphically >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/280026/how-do-i-hide-an-entry-from-grub?rq=1   AND  manually http://askubuntu.com/questions/318120/how-do-i-hide-grub-entries
[19:34] <david89> Dinosaurio: thanks
[19:34] <david89> ikonia: the laptop is for someone that wouldn't ever need memtest, or advanced whatever
[19:35] <AndroUser> How do I check if I have a different manager set other than sddm?
[19:35] <ikonia> AndroUser: what ?
[19:36] <AndroUser> Nm, found it in the link
[19:36] <AndroUser> I have sddm
[19:36] <afterdarkness> hello, I have a problem where after waking up from suspension I get a black screen with mouse only on the screen
[19:38] <bazhang> !find sddm
[19:41] <afterdarkness> ahh this is strange i can see my oppened window now, but unity seems to be turned off
[19:41] <AndroUser> Is there any way to check logs in regards to login attempts?
[19:41] <afterdarkness> how can I restart it?
[19:42] <kirill_> hi guys does anyone know where I can get immediate support for Ubuntu 14.04 server (paid)
[19:43] <ikonia> canonical.com
[19:43] <duckgoose> hello
[19:43] <Legend_2025> Kirill_: Which kind of support are you talking about?
[19:44] <Legend_2025> Canonical can be of help.
[19:44] <afterdarkness> hmm service lightdm restart fixed it
[19:44] <afterdarkness> this is annoying
[19:44] <anonymous> program
[19:45] <anonymous>  activate
[19:45] <kirill_> I have production 14.04 server, that just lost network, i cannot figure out why
[19:45] <ikonia> kirill_: either a.) use community support b.) purchase a support contract from canonical
[19:46] <anonymous> the hack facebook
[19:46] <anonymous> 12/12/2016
[19:46] <ikonia> anonymous: what ?
[19:46] <kirill_> I just need something right now... purchasing contracts takes time
[19:46] <ikonia> kirill_: so ask the community (this channel) for help
[19:46] <anonymous> the hack facebook 12/12/2016
[19:46] <ikonia> anonymous: please stop that
[19:47] <ikonia> anonymous: this channel is for ubuntu support
[19:47] <locksmith2> Can someone tell me please: What is the best way to share files on a USB hard drive between Ubuntu Linux and OSX computer? What filesystem should I format it as?
[19:47] <DJOnes> anonymous: This is Ubuntu support, do you have a suuport issue?
[19:47] <ikonia> locksmith2: vfat
[19:47] <locksmith2> is that the only one?
[19:47] <locksmith2> also, that supports long file names, and advanced acl flags, etc, right?
[19:47] <ikonia> locksmith2: best
[19:48] <ikonia> locksmith2: full support by both OS's
[19:48] <locksmith2> ok
[19:48] <auronandace> ikonia: what about the 4gb max file size limit?
[19:48] <locksmith2> is there a way to convert a ext filesystem to vfat?
[19:48] <ikonia> auronandace: what about it?
[19:48] <locksmith2> without copying the files to a second hard drive?
[19:48] <auronandace> locksmith2: no
[19:48] <ikonia> locksmith2: no, re-format
[19:48] <daftykins> exFAT wouldn't have that :)
[19:48] <ratrace> uhm... vfat supports unix acl?
[19:48] <daftykins> kirill_: so are you doing anything about it?
[19:48] <ikonia> nope
[19:48] <daftykins> ratrace: no
[19:49] <ratrace> so it's not what locksmith2 wants
[19:49] <auronandace> ikonia: i thought it important to mention since it is a significant disadvatage, he didn't say how large his files would be
[19:49] <ikonia> there isn't what he wants,
[19:49] <AndroUser> Looking for guidance with login reset issue on kubuntu 15.04. Thanks.
[19:49] <ikonia> auronandace: thats up to him
[19:49] <ratrace> what about ntfs?
[19:49] <ikonia> AndroUser: login reset ?
[19:49] <AndroUser> When I successfully login, it resets back to the login screen
[19:49] <ikonia> AndroUser: a few minutes ago you said it was a black screen
[19:50] <ikonia> no it doesn't
[19:50] <ikonia> that is not a "reset"
[19:50] <ikonia> AndroUser: so lets get a clear description of the problem
[19:50] <AndroUser> OK
[19:50] <kirill_> I have 14.04 in Hyper-v, everything worked fine until today when I lost my network. Ping 8.8.8.8 gives Destination Host Unreachable
[19:50] <ikonia> kirill_: does the card have an IP address
[19:50] <daftykins> oh Hyper-V :(
[19:50] <elll> кириле
[19:50] <AndroUser> Well sometimes I get a reset and sometimes I get a black screen. Right now I am not able to fully log on because it keeps reseting the screen back to the login screen
[19:51] <daftykins> AndroUser: sounds like you have at one point foolishly used startx with sudo, check your ~/ for files not owned by you with "ls -al ~/" as your user, on a TTY.
[19:51] <AndroUser> It shows starting version 219 for a very brief moment before it goes back to the login screen, BTW
[19:53] <AndroUser> daftykins, OK so I'm looking for files that don't have my user or root on them, correct?
[19:53] <auronandace> locksmith2: if you have enough free space you could create another partition and copy the files over and then resize the partitions until it is all on the one partition you want. it would of course be a lot faster to just copy it to a secondary location
[19:53] <daftykins> AndroUser: they all have to have your user, if anything has root - that's a problem.
[19:53] <daftykins> (except . )
[19:53] <daftykins> er, .. even
[19:53] <locksmith2> I have a question about developing on Mono platform (.nET). can someone please advice me. What is the best build server to use if I plan to make ASP.net apps and I need to do unit testing. I plan to use MonoDevelop to code. Would TeamCity or Jenkins be good or which one is better? My server is running Ubuntu 14.04 and my development machine is Apple OSX macbook
[19:54] <locksmith2> and #mono is not helful
[19:54] <ikonia> locksmith2: whatever one you like
[19:54] <AndroUser> Alright. For now I have 1 .rpmdb set for root and 1 scan.pdf set to nobody
[19:54] <ikonia> and #mono is helpful, the authors are in there and have a good attitude
[19:54] <ikonia> .rpmdb ?
[19:54] <AndroUser> .. Is root
[19:54] <ikonia> thats not ubuntu
[19:54] <AndroUser> It's kubuntu.
[19:54] <daftykins> AndroUser: ok nevermind.
[19:55] <kirill_> just realized ifconfig all RX packets dropped, any idea why it may be ?
[19:55] <ikonia> kirill_: the host doesn't link to the virtual nic
[19:55] <ikonia> it's on the wrong network
[19:55] <ikonia> it's got the wrong gateway
[19:55] <ikonia> the list is endless, work it through
[19:56] <AndroUser> daftykins  So no startx issue?
[19:56] <Fahrenhei7> hey guys, i've just delete my /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d directory. mouse and keyboard are not working now, what can i do?
[19:56] <daftykins> AndroUser: maybe, depends if what you say is accurate :) tried a guest session?
[19:56] <AndroUser> Guest session? No...
[19:56] <daftykins> Fahrenhei7: get them back...
[19:56] <AndroUser> Umm
[19:57] <AndroUser> It doesn't give me that option
[19:57] <AndroUser> I can only login to my own user
[19:57] <Fahrenhei7> daftykins: well, but how?
[19:57] <daftykins> which version are you on, Fahrenhei7 ?
[19:58] <Fahrenhei7> daftykins: i cant find it in web, to just download it and set up. ubuntu 14.04
[19:58] <daftykins> know this now... in future, RENAME things to simulate a delete before you do something so silly :)
[19:58] <daftykins> ok one sec
[19:58] <daftykins> oh actually silly me, i'm not on a GUI system :D so i don't have them
[19:59] <daftykins> you could boot a live session and copy them over
[19:59] <Fahrenhei7> i realise it too late
[19:59] <Fahrenhei7> ye, i can boot a live-cd linux
[20:00] <AndroUser> daftykins, any way to login to guest mode, not from main screen?
[20:00] <AndroUser> I don't seem to have that option
[20:01] <daftykins> pass, don't use KDE
[20:01] <ikonia> create a new user
[20:01] <ikonia> and login
[20:01] <ikonia> see if it's your user environment, or the machine
[20:01] <AndroUser> In TTY?
[20:01] <ikonia> that works
[20:01] <AndroUser> How do I create a user in TTY?
[20:02] <ikonia> useradd or adduser
[20:02] <AndroUser> Nice
[20:02] <daftykins> remember to create a /home
[20:02] <AndroUser> Looks complicated
[20:03] <AndroUser> OK, I'll try
[20:03] <name_> is there an alternative to uneboutin
[20:03] <daftykins> which OS do you want to create from, name_ ?
[20:03] <AndroUser> Hmm I probably shouldn't do it on /home, right?
[20:03] <daftykins> i assume you are preparing a flash drive
[20:03] <ikonia> you should
[20:04] <daftykins> AndroUser: it's fine, /home/newuser/
[20:04] <AndroUser> Because I have my original user in there
[20:04] <AndroUser> Oh, ok
[20:04] <daftykins> duh
[20:04] <name_> daftykins : gentoo
[20:04] <daftykins> name_: so use 'dd'
[20:04] <daftykins> dd if=/path/to.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M
[20:05] <AndroUser> Okay, so I add the user in /home or /home/guest2?
[20:05] <daftykins> it needs it's own folder, that's how homes work.
[20:05] <ratrace> you can also cp the.iso /dev/sdX
[20:06] <Guest79029> Does anyone know how to use the Arduino IDE with a bluetooth arduino programmer?
[20:06] <AndroUser> Oh boy, this is a bit complicated. It seems like it can create the home directory for me
[20:06] <AndroUser> But there's no mentioning of the name of the user
[20:06] <daftykins> AndroUser: time for you to read up on adduser.
[20:07] <AndroUser> .. K
[20:07] <daftykins> ratrace: what o0
[20:07] <ratrace> daftykins: yup, try it :)
[20:07] <ratrace> cp is aware of block devices and acts accordingly
[20:07] <auronandace> AndroUser: first run will simply go through the default settings then you get to add a user
[20:07] <AndroUser> Should I add my new user to the same girls my original user exists in?
[20:08] <AndroUser> Group
[20:08] <AndroUser> That sounded wrong.
[20:08] <daftykins> just get it done.
[20:08] <AndroUser> "just do it!"
[20:09] <wafflejock> AndroUser: groups just affects what privileges the user has so depends on if you expect that new users to have the same privileges to everything by default or not, can add/remove them later though
[20:09] <AndroUser> Cool, I just did it
[20:10] <AndroUser> I I don't see the new user on my login screen, but I assume I need to restart in order for it to take effect
[20:11] <wafflejock> AndroUser: can just login in a tty if nothing is showing in the GUI, pretty sure just logging out you should see the new user as well though (not often I'm adding users to my systems though)
[20:11] <AndroUser> OK, I restarted. The new user ID ther
[20:11] <AndroUser> The new user is there*
[20:12] <AndroUser> I just tried to login and got the same thing
[20:12] <AndroUser> It reset to the login screen
[20:12] <wafflejock> AndroUser: have u already been advised to check dmesg, and/or have you tried using nomodeset to see if a driver update/install or something is causing the problem?
[20:13] <AndroUser> Nope
[20:13] <auronandace> if it was a driver problem then would it display the login screen?
[20:14] <wafflejock> auronandace: have definitely seen it happen before where drivers cause problems once it actual loads the environment but the login screen gdm or whatever is able to run, trying nomodeset is pretty easy too and temporary
[20:14] <AndroUser> OK, how is it done?
[20:14] <wafflejock> !nomodeset
[20:15] <AndroUser> And just to be clear, recovery mode works, but regular boot up does not
[20:15] <wafflejock> AndroUser: basic gist is you boot to grub, hit e with the normal ubuntu startup selected, you'll see some boot parameters in one of the lines like, quiet nosplash or something add "nomodeset" between those and hit Ctrl+x to boot
[20:15] <Bashing-om> auronandace: As I understand it, the login screen is under the province still of grub. Grub uses the system drivers, the GUI generally uses a different driver .
[20:16] <daftykins> pastebin of /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be quicker than arsing around with nomodeset.
[20:16] <n64lover> I need help with sshfs and trying to mount and access a remote folder as a non root user
[20:16] <n64lover> https://bpaste.net/show/1f4471fb4b80
[20:16] <daftykins> n64lover: well your mistake is mounting whilst you're root =|
[20:16] <AndroUser> Daftykins OK just a sec
[20:16] <wafflejock> AndroUser: this will boot with the vesa (default/fallback drivers)
[20:17] <n64lover> daftykins: it wont mount as a non root user
[20:17] <daftykins> due to ownership of that folder you created *as* root? :)
[20:17] <n64lover> oh
[20:17] <AndroUser> Un, daftykins
[20:17] <daftykins> quite honestly sshfs for ROMs? huge waste of time
[20:17] <AndroUser> I'm not sure I can give you the right log
[20:17] <AndroUser> But
[20:17] <n64lover> I should mount it to /home/<me>/somefolder?
[20:18] <daftykins> AndroUser: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:18] <AndroUser> I can give you Ike the last 50 lines of it
[20:18] <daftykins> n64lover: no just own /media/roms to your user perhaps
[20:18] <daftykins> AndroUser: no pastebin the whole thing with pastebinit as above
[20:18] <AndroUser> I'm not sure I'd be able to get you the correct t version of the log as I go into recovery mode.
[20:18] <n64lover> already tried to chown /media/roms to myself
[20:18] <n64lover> I already added myself to the fuse group
[20:18] <AndroUser> If I go to recovery mode I might lose the relevant log
[20:19] <daftykins> but you don't need to go to recovery mode, you just boot to login screen then switch to TTY1?
[20:19] <wafflejock> AndroUser: you should be able to just switch to a tty Ctrl+Alt+F1 instead
[20:19] <AndroUser> I'm there and I see it, of course.
[20:19] <AndroUser> I see it I. The regular boot up on tty
[20:19] <AndroUser> Hang on
[20:20] <AndroUser> How do I save a text from a command to a file?
[20:20] <AndroUser> In terminal
[20:20] <wafflejock> AndroUser: use pastebinit like daftykins said
[20:20] <kirill_> got network back, but having issue with resolver, it ignores dns-servernames in interfaces, any clues what it may be ?
[20:20] <wafflejock> AndroUser: it'll upload it assuming you have a connection and give us a link
[20:21] <daftykins> kirill_: your directives might be wrong in interfaces, servers should really have resolvconf purged (the package) then /etc/resolv.conf hardcoded.
[20:21] <AndroUser> I'm not making myself clear here. The log I have is when I try to run kubuntu regularly. I go to recovery mode so I can access my computer and to copy paste the text from the terminal in that mode I might not longer have the relevant logs you asking for as they might be overriden by the recovery mode boot up.
[20:22] <daftykins> AndroUser: yeah, we're saying not to boot to recovery mode - but to let it boot normally, then hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to TTY1. do you follow?
[20:23] <AndroUser> I'm there
[20:23] <daftykins> !pm
[20:24] <AndroUser> Oh wow..
[20:25] <AndroUser> I didn't know there is a pastebinit package...
[20:25] <AndroUser> My bad...
[20:25] <AndroUser> 😑
[20:25] <AndroUser> Lol, this seems much easier than I thought...
[20:25] <wafflejock> yup no worries, that's what we were talking about though so can just install that then run it on the log and it'll drop you a link back in the terminal to use
[20:26] <AndroUser> Right, 1 min.
[20:27] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12655073
[20:27] <AndroUser> Mam, that's a dream
[20:27] <daftykins> consult your local physician if you dream of pastebin packages :)
[20:28] <AndroUser> 😆
[20:28] <AndroUser> Were I a German I'd Jajaja
[20:28] <daftykins> that's inappropriate
[20:28] <daftykins> alright so looks like normal intel on-die graphics only and it's running fine
[20:29] <daftykins> so carry on with the alternative user testing i would say
[20:29] <AndroUser> OK...
[20:29] <AndroUser> But.. It doesn't work for the alternative user either...
[20:29] <AndroUser> When I try to login.
[20:30] <daftykins> so what did you do between when this worked and now?
[20:30] <auronandace> AndroUser: df -h
[20:31] <daftykins> AndroUser: what relevance does disk usage possibly have at this point?
[20:31] <daftykins> oops tcf
[20:31] <bomber> Disk usage?
[20:31] <daftykins> auronandace: ^
[20:31] <bomber> I have enough
[20:31] <bomber> Oh
[20:31] <daftykins> bomber: nobody is talking to you
[20:31] <bomber> Yeah, sorry. I'm Androuser
[20:31] <daftykins> oh, clones everywhere
[20:31] <bomber> I just reconnected
[20:32] <bomber> Yeah....
[20:32] <auronandace> daftykins: i've seen systems not let you login due to full disk because of log files
[20:32] <bomber> Anyway, not sure what I lost before I mentioned that I am not able to login with the alternative user either.
[20:32] <bomber> I'm not sure what you meant by testing it
[20:32] <daftykins> auronandace: that's quite the edge case :) consider we've already seen a new user created and logged in
[20:33] <auronandace> daftykins: i thought he said his new user doesn't log in
[20:33] <daftykins> it didn't work graphically no, but that's not the point
[20:35] <bomber> Um
[20:35] <bomber> So where does that leave me with...?
[20:35] <daftykins> up a creek without a paddle
[20:35] <bomber> Nice
[20:35] <daftykins> nah, dig into your lightdm logs assuming KDE uses them.
[20:35] <bomber> I always wanted to do that
[20:36] <bomber> Umm... I think I've tried that before... What specific files am I looking for?
[20:36] <daftykins> lightdm.log :) you can pastebinit it now too
[20:36] <auronandace> i thought kubuntu uses kdm
[20:36] <bomber> It does
[20:36] <daftykins> whatever goes, like i say i don't use KDE.
[20:37] <bomber> but surprisingly, I do have the log for lightdm
[20:38] <bomber> No errors...
[20:38] <bomber> Waiting for ready signal form X server :1
[20:38] <daftykins> please cut down on the spam
[20:40] <AndroUser> Sorry bout that
[20:40] <AndroUser> Anyway, seems lightdm is fine..
[20:40] <auronandace> which wouldn't matter since you are using kdm
[20:41] <AndroUser> Sddm has a lot of logs
[20:41] <daftykins> auronandace: hurry up and point out to check the relevant log then, you need to follow through if you're going to actually provide decent advice...
[20:41] <daftykins> so far we've just seen rubbish about misunderstanding PAE ;)
[20:42] <auronandace> daftykins: like you i don't use kde either
[20:42] <andrewjs18> and iptable gurus in here?
[20:42] <andrewjs18> iptables**
[20:42] <daftykins> andrewjs18: ##networking / #ubuntu-server
[20:42] <andrewjs18> let me go over to the ubuntu-server channel
[20:42] <andrewjs18> ty
[20:43] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12655392
[20:44] <AndroUser> Jesús that's long...
[20:44] <daftykins> AndroUser: do you have a ~/plasma-config/ ?
[20:44] <AndroUser> I should have e
[20:45] <AndroUser> OK, no I don't
[20:45] <daftykins> AndroUser: also what's in /etc/X11/default-display-manager ?
[20:45] <AndroUser> Sdm
[20:45] <AndroUser> Sddm*
[20:46] <Oats_> I entered "gnome-power-manager" and it says command not found
[20:46] <Oats_> but apparently it's installed
[20:46] <daftykins> alright
[20:46] <Oats_> how do I access it?
[20:46] <daftykins> AndroUser: so you still haven't mentioned, what changed? did you upgrade version before this broke?
[20:47] <AndroUser> Yes, 15.04 AND it happened after I plugged my computer to another monitor
[20:47] <AndroUser> The regular boot up works if I have the monitor connected to my computer, but once I disconnect it, all he'll breaks lose and black screens start to appear.
[20:47] <daftykins> you're saying you were on something like 14.10 and upgraded to 15.04?
[20:48] <AndroUser> The monitor is at my work place and I don't have a other one in my home.
[20:48] <AndroUser> Yes
[20:48] <daftykins> so is this a desktop or a laptop?
[20:48] <AndroUser> Laptop
[20:48] <daftykins> right now, are we doing all this with this other screen connected?
[20:48] <AndroUser> No, without it connected
[20:48] <daftykins> phew.
[20:48] <AndroUser> Lol, yeah. Sorry.
[20:49] <daftykins> ok run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:49] <AndroUser> I really don't get where I'm getting people confused when try to communicate.
[20:49] <daftykins> just make sure we're not dealing with an incomplete upgrade
[20:49] <AndroUser> 😕
[20:49] <AndroUser> Oh,, no
[20:49] <daftykins> well i did join this one late on so i didn't see it from the start
[20:49] <Oats_> How do I access the power manager via command line?
[20:49] <sentry> hello
[20:49] <Oats_> I want to change critical battery behaviour
[20:49] <AndroUser> It workss and worked 100% before the screen attachment ordeal
[20:49] <sentry> i'm french :p
[20:49] <daftykins> sentry: that's nice, there's also #ubuntu-fr
[20:49] <sentry> thx
[20:50] <AndroUser> the screen thing,  I never mentioned.
[20:50] <AndroUser> Bon joir
[20:50] <AndroUser> Jour *
[20:50] <sentry> speak english
[20:50] <sentry> I can speak englsh
[20:50] <AndroUser> 👍
[20:50] <sentry> Xchat use SSL ??
[20:50] <daftykins> hexchat is newer, you might want to switch
[20:51] <sentry> the IP is secure in Xchat ?
[20:51] <AndroUser> So, you've mentioned plasma config....
[20:51] <daftykins> sentry: not sure what you mean by an IP being secure
[20:52] <daftykins> AndroUser: right but you said you didn't have that path so nevermind
[20:52] <AndroUser> Oh, OK.
[20:52] <AndroUser> I've tried deleting the plasma config files before
[20:52] <sentry> I use backbox and you ?
[20:52] <daftykins> AndroUser: so did you run the command i said?
[20:52] <AndroUser> It doesn't seem to work anymore
[20:52] <daftykins> !backbox | sentry
[20:52] <AndroUser> Which
[20:52] <daftykins> scroll up and find it
[20:53] <AndroUser> Gotcha
[20:53] <sentry> Who are pentester ?
[20:53] <AndroUser> You think I have an incomplete upgrade.
[20:53] <AndroUser> ☺
[20:54] <AndroUser> I ran it.
[20:54] <daftykins> and...?
[20:54] <daftykins> can you answer in full sentences rather than all this :(
[20:54] <gdg> hi
[20:54] <AndroUser> Vivd binary-amd64 and binary-i386 were not found
[20:54] <AndroUser> And some other nginx urls
[20:55] <AndroUser> No_pubkey
[20:55] <gdg> I purged unity from my ubuntu and now I do not have a network connection anymore
[20:55] <daftykins> AndroUser: ok re-run "sudo apt-get update | pastebinit"
[20:55] <gdg> is there a way to fix it
[20:55] <daftykins> sounds like you updated with PPAs still present and bricked your install
[20:56] <gdg> ping www.google.com
[20:56] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12655595
[20:56] <gdg> unknown host
[20:56] <daftykins> gdg: so what are you using instead?
[20:56] <gdg> now?
[20:56] <gdg> another pc
[20:56] <wafflejock> gdg: if you type ifconfig, do you see any interfaces available
[20:56] <gdg> nope
[20:56] <wafflejock> gdg: I mean eth0 or wlan0 or something?
[20:57] <gdg> lo
[20:57] <daftykins> heh
[20:57] <daftykins> that's 'cause NM is gone i guess
[20:57] <daftykins> AndroUser: did "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" want to install anything?
[20:57] <wafflejock> yeah thats a no good
[20:58] <gdg> so how can I start fixing it?
[20:58] <AndroUser> Could this binaries really be that important? Is the a fix for those?
[20:58] <wafflejock> I had a similar situation a few weeks ago but was a kernel update that I think half installed on my parents computer so just went back one version and all was well
[20:58] <wafflejock> gdg: I suppose a live cd
[20:58] <gdg> yes, but I do not want to re-install everything from scratch
[20:59] <daftykins> gdg: we need to know what you got rid of unity for, first
[20:59] <daftykins> that's step #1
[20:59] <wafflejock> well if you blew away unity what were you planning to install
[20:59] <wafflejock> yea
[20:59] <gdg> xfce
[20:59] <gdg> I had xfce on it
[20:59] <daftykins> AndroUser: just answer the question please
[20:59] <daftykins> ok so install xubuntu-desktop
[21:00] <gdg> daftykins:remember that I do not have internet
[21:00] <daftykins> gdg: double check you have any network interfaces that might currently be down, i.e. "ifconfig -a"
[21:00] <daftykins> yes but at least we have an approach now :)
[21:00] <AndroUser> No, it didn't
[21:01] <daftykins> AndroUser: ok try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[21:01] <AndroUser> OK, I'm going to install it now.
[21:01] <AndroUser> It says it isn't installed.
[21:02] <gdg> daftykins: I configure eth0
[21:02] <gdg> ifconfig
[21:02] <daftykins> gdg: you're going to configure it to get yourself online, you're saying?
[21:02] <gdg> yes
[21:02] <gdg> I am trying to get online
[21:02] <daftykins> ok good stuff, then install xubuntu-desktop
[21:02] <gdg> after that it should be easier
[21:02] <daftykins> shout if you need any assistance with the commands for that
[21:03] <AndroUser> Xubuntu after kubuntu?
[21:03] <daftykins> AndroUser: that one wasn't for you :) you don't need two DEs
[21:04] <gdg> daftykins: I have the eth0 configured but still I cannot ping anything
[21:04] <AndroUser> Lol, yeah. I'm rebooting after installing kubuntu desktop (the f&*# it wasn't there??)
[21:04] <daftykins> gdg: you need "nameserver 8.8.8.8" for example in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:05] <daftykins> gdg: you also need a gateway, after having done e.g. "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" then "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.x.x netmask 255.255.255.0"
[21:05] <AndroUser> Nope
[21:05] <AndroUser> Did not work
[21:05] <daftykins> also "sudo route add default gw <router IP>
[21:05] <AndroUser> Login still resets
[21:05] <daftykins> AndroUser: mmm, ok i give up.
[21:05] <daftykins> backup + reinstall time unless you're patient to wait for someone else
[21:06] <AndroUser> 😬
[21:06] <gdg> daftykins:  my IP is 128.59.22.110
[21:06] <gdg> shoud I use 128.59.x.x then?
[21:06] <AndroUser> I'll take anyone else familiar with login resets
[21:06] <AndroUser> Thx for the help daftykins
[21:06] <daftykins> gdg: that doesn't look like an internal LAN IP
[21:06] <gdg> yes
[21:07] <AndroUser> You rock
[21:07] <gdg> this is my LAN IP
[21:07] <gdg> should I use it?
[21:07] <daftykins> you put specifically all four octets of your IP, then you need to pick your gateway too
[21:07] <daftykins> or you could just use DHCP if it's available to you
[21:07] <daftykins> sudo dhclient eth0
[21:07] <auronandace> AndroUser: other than graphics drivers issues and out of disk space i can't think of much else that would stop you from loging in
[21:08] <AndroUser> I just remembered
[21:08] <auronandace> AndroUser: sorry i haven't been of much help
[21:08] <AndroUser> It's the external screen!
[21:08] <gdg> great
[21:08] <gdg> I am online
[21:08] <AndroUser> The KDE is not able to find the main display
[21:08] <gdg> now
[21:08] <AndroUser> It thinks it belongs to the external display, which is no longer connected
[21:08] <gdg> how can I fix it
[21:09] <AndroUser> That's why it only takes of the screen is not connected
[21:09] <gdg> essentially I need unity back or at least I want to have the graphical interface up and running
[21:09] <daftykins> gdg: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:09] <daftykins> well pick a DE!
[21:09] <AndroUser> What do you guys think?
[21:10] <AndroUser> Takes of = works if *
[21:10] <daftykins> i don't see why KDE would drop a brick for just not finding another screen
[21:10] <AndroUser> Plasma perhaps
[21:10] <auronandace> AndroUser: do you have a xorg.conf that overrides your the normal dynamic setup
[21:10] <AndroUser> I don't know if it overrides
[21:11] <auronandace> !xorgconf | AndroUser
[21:11] <daftykins> well it will if it exists ;)
[21:11] <AndroUser> Tell me where it would love and I'll pastebinit
[21:11] <daftykins> /etc/X11/
[21:11] <daftykins> but i doubt you have one.
[21:11] <AndroUser> Aright
[21:11] <daftykins> the login screen comes up which means none of this is relevant
[21:11] <daftykins> so it really is just give up + reinstall time
[21:12] <AndroUser> He's right.
[21:12] <AndroUser> I don't have xorg.conf
[21:13] <AndroUser> Could it be my plasma conf...?
[21:13] <daftykins> just give up
[21:13] <AndroUser> Lol..
[21:13] <daftykins> you'll spend more time messing about than just reinstalling
[21:14] <AndroUser> Catlol: do not want
[21:14] <AndroUser> K, thanks anyway ya'll
[21:14] <AndroUser> Any other suggestions are welcome
[21:20] <clrae> How to check if hard disk is faulty from the command line , i am unable to install ubuntu
[21:20] <gdg> daftykins:
[21:21] <gdg> I have a display manager now
[21:21] <gdg> Login: on a blue screen
[21:21] <gdg> if I use my user and password I cannot login
[21:21] <gdg> if I use a non graphical shell I can login
[21:21] <gdg> does it make sense to you?
[21:22] <auronandace> AndroUser: if you really think it is a kde specific problem then you could try logging into a different desktop environment
[21:24] <OerHeks> clrae, assuming your hdd is sda, sudo fsck /dev/sda1 ( not sure you have a faulty filesystem, maybe you have 4 primairy partitons already)
[21:25] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: Only a thought 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' . But in 15.04 I am not sure how one would stop the display, X must not be running when re-configured . Google'n at this time .
[21:25] <clrae> <OerHeks : if i install teamviewer can you help me identfy the problem ? please ?
[21:28] <meltingwax> if i installed ubuntu in non-UFEI mode, is it possible to switch to UFEI without reinstalling?
[21:28] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: What results ' sudo systemctl stop kdm ' ?
[21:28] <AndroUser> One sec
[21:28] <EriC^^> meltingwax: yeah
[21:28] <auronandace> Bashing-om: i think he is using sddm instead
[21:28] <AndroUser> I am
[21:29] <Bashing-om> auronandace: AndroUser No that will make a difference huh ?
[21:29] <clrae> OerHeks : this is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/12656244/
[21:29] <meltingwax> EriC^^: how?
[21:29] <auronandace> AndroUser: why are you using sddm anyway?
[21:29] <EriC^^> meltingwax: you need to create an efi partition, fat32 about 300mb in size with the hexcode ef00
[21:29] <clrae> OerHeks : is my hard disk fine ?
[21:29] <AndroUser> Um..
[21:30] <AndroUser> Either u had it with kubuntu
[21:30] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: ' sudo systemctl stop sddm ' ??
[21:30] <AndroUser> Or I installed it for trying to fix the problem.
[21:30] <EriC^^> meltingwax: then fix /etc/fstab to mount it, and install grub-efi-amd64-signed or whatever package your machine needs
[21:30] <AndroUser> Bashing-om OK,  I ran that comnabd
[21:31] <EriC^^> meltingwax: it's preferable to convert the partition table to gpt, but i think you can get away with leaving it msdos
[21:31] <AndroUser> Now what?
[21:31] <AndroUser> It took off my gui
[21:31] <meltingwax> EriC^^: i have windows 8 already, can i use the same ufei partition that uses?
[21:31] <EriC^^> meltingwax: yeah
[21:31] <meltingwax> ie, when i open boot repair it lists one seperate /boot/efi possibility
[21:31] <meltingwax> ty
[21:32] <EriC^^> hmm
[21:32] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:32] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[21:32] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: And ? the system accepted and stopped  X ? If so run ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm ' .
[21:32] <anil> hiii
[21:32] <AndroUser> OK
[21:32] <AndroUser> I have lightdm and sddm as options
[21:33] <AndroUser> Just to be clear, I'm running kubuntu
[21:33] <AndroUser> With plasma
[21:33] <AndroUser> And KDE
[21:33] <anil> what the fuck man
[21:33] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: Which do you want as the default ?
[21:33] <anil> lets talk abt medical marijuana man
[21:33] <AndroUser> I belive sddm
[21:33] <AndroUser> Unless lightdm can fix stuff
[21:33] <clrae> what does this output mean http://paste.ubuntu.com/12656338/
[21:35] <auronandace> clrae: you are meant to run fsck on a partition, not the whole disk
[21:35] <clrae> auronandace; can you give me the command to use please ?
[21:35] <RepThis1> Hey guys, i was reading some about file permissions and was wonder if there some overlap between chmod, sticky bits, and suids?
[21:36] <AndroUser> I guess I'll choose sddm
[21:36] <auronandace> clrae: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:36] <Bashing-om> !tab | AndroUser
[21:37] <auronandace> clrae: if you post the link here we can then see your disk setup
[21:37] <AndroUser> I'm on my android
[21:37] <AndroUser> Bashing-om
[21:37] <wafflejock> AndroUser: some of the IRC clients will autocomplete nicks if you tap the partial nick text too
[21:37] <AndroUser> What's the command to force connect to wifi ml
[21:38] <AndroUser> On tty
[21:38] <AndroUser> Something like nm
[21:38] <EriC^^> RepThis1: you use chmod to change permissions, sticky bits are chmod 1xxx and used for like /tmp so anybody who creates a file nobody else can delete it, suid is chmod 4xxx and it's so a program can run as the owner of the file, like sudo is suid so anybody who runs it can get root privileges if it wants to let him
[21:38] <AndroUser> Nmcli
[21:38] <clrae> <auronandace : http://termbin.com/bmnl
[21:38] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: This is a busy channel, if you do not use our nicks, your response gets burried, a good good chance we will not see any response you make.
[21:39] <AndroUser> Hmm
[21:40] <auronandace> clrae: you don't appear to have any ext2/3/4 partitions so you can't fsck what isn't there
[21:40] <AndroUser> Bashing-om, I get an error when reconfiguring sddm
[21:40] <AndroUser> Bashing-om unable to connect to upstart
[21:40] <AndroUser> Connection refused
[21:40] <clrae> auronandace ; because i deleted them from gparted
[21:41] <auronandace> clrae: then fsck isn't what you want
[21:41] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: K; and the error is ? Maybe we can figure out from the error what is not happening .// try now ' sudo systemctl start sddm ' .
[21:41] <AndroUser> Same for lightdm
[21:42] <clrae> auronandace : i've been struggling to install ubuntu for a day now and i keep getting stuck in the installation proccess every time !
[21:42] <auronandace> clrae: where are you stuck?
[21:42] <AndroUser> Bashing-om, OK, back to gui
[21:42] <AndroUser> And
[21:42] <AndroUser> Its
[21:43] <AndroUser> A mother effing
[21:43] <AndroUser> Moracle
[21:43] <TheEnviousCrab> Help... emergency... I installed XFCE then removed unity, it took ubuntu desktop with it... if I sign out, I'm fucked... what can I do?
[21:43] <liquidsnake> hello
[21:43] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: That is good, no ? .. can you now reboot to the GUI ?
[21:43] <AndroUser> Bashing-om let me give you $5 beer money
[21:43] <AndroUser> All good now.
[21:43] <clrae> <auronandace : i will try to install again and send you a screenshot  , please wait
[21:44] <RepThis1> EriC^^: yes but isnt there also a linux program to change the suid like setsuid which sounds like it also does the same thing as chmod setting those bits?
[21:44] <liquidsnake> anyone have problems installing java in Xubuntu
[21:44] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: You may than auronandace and daftykins . They did all the hard work . I just got in on the tail end .
[21:44] <clrae> auronandace : http://imgur.com/AZMKj07
[21:45] <Bashing-om> than/thank*
[21:45] <auronandace> !cookie | Bashing-om
[21:45] <Bashing-om> auronandace: And my favorite, chocolate chip, no less -- thanks !
[21:45] <auronandace> clrae: well, the box in that error message does say it all really
[21:45] <AndroUser> Sorry, I'm back.
[21:46] <clrae> auronandace : i am installing from usb stick and its not faulty
[21:46] <auronandace> clrae: how old is your harddisk?
[21:46] <EriC^^> RepThis1: not sure, i dont think so
[21:46] <AndroUser> Bashing-om I just rebooted.
[21:46] <clrae> clrae : I don't know how to xheck that ?
[21:46] <AndroUser> Well, now I have a black screen...
[21:46] <auronandace> clrae: input output errors suggest hardware failure
[21:47] <clrae> <auronandace: how can i check that  because it was working just fine
[21:47] <RepThis1> EriC^^: i think it is something like this http://linux.die.net/man/2/setgid http://linux.die.net/man/2/setuid
[21:47] <auronandace> clrae: you don't know when you got it?
[21:48] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: My last " You may thank auronandace and daftykins . They did all the hard work . I just got in on the tail end" . And from the reboot, all is good ?
[21:48] <EriC^^> RepThis1: that's what you use inside the program to set the uid
[21:48] <clrae> auronandace ; yes
[21:48] <clrae> auronandace : it's not mine
[21:48] <AndroUser> No,it's a black screen. Also, I just realized that the dpkg toy asked me to do is the exact same thing that clean in recovery mode does.
[21:49] <EriC^^> RepThis1: like setuid(0); to set the program's privileges to root and then write whatever code after that
[21:49] <AndroUser> That doesn't cover my problem 100%,though
[21:49] <clrae> auronandace : it's pretty old though
[21:49] <auronandace> clrae: i can't think of a way of checking how old it is from software, i suppose you could open the case and check the label
[21:50] <auronandace> clrae: from that error message i'd say you need to replace it, it is failing
[21:50] <auronandace> clrae: at the very least don't entrust it with anything important
[21:50] <TJ-> auronandace: just got in... are you talking about an external HDD? smartctl will report the lifetime hours
[21:50] <auronandace> TJ- to the rescue!
[21:51] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: Have you cleaned up the system from the upgrade to 15.04 ?
[21:51] <AndroUser> Bashing-om, could you please be more specific?
[21:51] <RepThis1> EriC^^: oh, is setgid and uid the ones that just change what group or user you are temporarily?
[21:51] <AndroUser> Also, the part where it worked SAS because I was originally working on recovery mode
[21:52] <RepThis1> EriC^^: cause if thats the cause i was totally thinking something else did that.
[21:52] <AndroUser> Essentially, the dpkg toy asked me to do was like doing clean before continuing on
[21:52] <EriC^^> RepThis1: no, those are functions inside the c program
[21:52] <auronandace> clrae: i'm off to bed, but i think you are in capable hands
[21:52] <AndroUser> So it worked on recovery, but doing dpkg on the regular boot up does not work at all
[21:52] <AndroUser> Lightdm is not able to start my session at all
[21:52] <clrae> auronandace : thnx
[21:52] <AndroUser> I'm currently back to sddm
[21:53] <EriC^^> RepThis1: newgrp <group> opens a new shell with your group as that group
[21:53] <daftykins> AndroUser: still being optimistic huh :P
[21:53] <AndroUser> Yeah, well i did try lightdm
[21:54] <EriC^^> RepThis1: and su - <user> to change the user
[21:54] <RepThis1> EriC^^: ah yeah, ok.
[21:54] <AndroUser> Didn't seem to work, but please - if there's anything else we can do to make it out sddm work
[21:54] <AndroUser> Or whatever that is causing my issues
[21:55] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: Clenaup ..' sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' . Any errors we need to see them .
[21:55] <daftykins> just give up and reinstall
[21:55] <daftykins> :>
[21:55] <Guest94266> hi
[21:55] <Guest94266> who is root password livecd
[21:56] <fried_chicken> ul
[21:56] <AndroUser> No errors
[21:56] <AndroUser> No new installations
[21:56] <TJ-> Guest94266: there isn't one, the Live user has a blank password and can also use 'sudo'
[21:56] <clrae> daftykins ; can the amout of heat of the laptop effect the hard disk  therefore  the ubuntu installation
[21:56] <Selective> Anyone ever run StandStorm.io on a Pi before?
[21:57] <Guest94266> thanks
[21:58] <TJ-> clrae: I missed the description of your issue; you have a drive with I/O errors reported to the kernel? If you're able to install (or already have the package) 'smartmontools' you should pastebin the output of "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX" (replace X with your drive letter)
[21:59] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: Then all I can suggest is from the login screen - ctl+alt+F1 to gain the console, stop X again and once more reconfigure sddm, and then start X . see what results . Mind you not in recovery mode but at console .
[22:01] <clrae> TJ-  :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12656953/
[22:02] <hetii> Hi
[22:02] <TJ-> clrae: line 66 jumps out immediately
[22:03] <clrae> <TJ- ; wich means ???
[22:03] <hetii> I have some odd things when I try print pdf with pcb board layout. When I use default pdf browser then all my pads gone, when I use inkscape and click on print icon then additonal tab is show on new window called "rendering"
[22:03] <clrae> TJ- : is it just a heat problem ?
[22:03] <hetii> its look like: http://s22.postimg.org/f863ro2up/zrzut_ekranu_2.png
[22:03] <hetii> any clue wht ?
[22:04] <hetii> *wtf ?
[22:04] <clrae> TJ- : or more serious than that ?
[22:04] <shiznix> hi, is anyone successfully running Mir on Wily?
[22:04] <TJ-> clrae: It looks that way; there are no errors in the error log, and it looks like you've done some recent self-tests within the last 3 power-on hours
[22:04] <TJ-> clrae: what errors are you seeing?
[22:04] <shiznix> not really sure if it's supposed to work yet, but it just opens up a black screen :(
[22:05] <clrae> TJ- http://imgur.com/AZMKj07
[22:06] <TJ-> clrae: Ahhh! but the failure could be from reading the installer device. Are you using a USB or DVD ?
[22:06] <clrae>  TJ- : USB
[22:07] <TJ-> clrae: which Ubuntu release are you trying to install?
[22:07] <clrae> TJ- ; i tryied first 15.04 and now 14.10 both show the same problem
[22:08] <TJ-> clrae: can you pastebin /var/log/kern.log
[22:09] <clrae> TJ- : " bash: /var/log/kern.log: Permission denied
[22:09] <dlam> hmm i upgraded ubuntu 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04  and now i got both postgresql 9.3 and 9.4,  anyone know how to clean that up?
[22:09] <clrae> TJ- : i should mention i am now in ubuntu 14.10 live usb
[22:11] <TJ-> clrae: Is the current session the one that caused the error in the screenshot?
[22:11] <clrae> TJ- : yes
[22:12] <TJ-> clrae: OK, this is the one we want to look at then: "sudo pastebinit /var/log/kern.log"
[22:12] <TJ-> clrae: the kern.log collects all the kernel messages, especially device I/O errors
 ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/12657209/
[22:13] <TJ-> clrae: that dialog is quite useless; not telling us if the problem occurred on reading from the installation media, or writing to the target! I'll report a bug on that and see about getting it fixed
[22:14] <clrae> TJ- : what can i do now just use ubuntu from usb stick ?
[22:15] <TJ-> clrae: OK, see that last few lines of that pastebin? "SQUASHFS error" squash file-system is used on the installation media to compress the live environment's root file-system, is you've got a USB problem, probably the ISO image on the USB is corrupt
[22:16] <TJ-> clrae: did you verify the hash (checksum) of the downloaded ISO file
[22:16] <clrae> <TJ- : no i didnt i dont know how to do it , i used to insatall without verifying
[22:17] <goto__> Hello, is there a special channel for localisation?
[22:18] <TJ-> clrae: either the download was corrupted, or else the download was fine but transferring it to the USB corrupted it. I'd suggest download the ISO for a supported release once again and verify the download before writing it to USB. I'd suggest using 15.04 since that is a supported version
[22:18] <TJ-> goto__: do you mean translations?
[22:18] <goto__> TJ-: yep
[22:19] <TJ-> goto__: /join #ubuntu-translators   and see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Contact/
[22:19] <clrae> TJ- ; so i should download 15.04 iso and verify it then use unebotin  to transfer itt to the usb
[22:20] <TJ-> !verify | clrae
[22:20] <shiznix> nevermind, i'll see how far it's regressed in another year lol :D
[22:20] <TJ-> clrae: if you still have an earlier download of 15.04 ISO verify its hash first; if it is good there's no need to download again
[22:21] <AndroUser> Bashing-om I did that
[22:21] <AndroUser> It didn't change anything, it kept reseting to login
[22:21] <TJ-> clrae: then I can talk you through how to verify the data once you've written it to USB
[22:22] <AndroUser> The alternative user login doesn't work either
[22:22] <clrae> TJ-> I don't have it i wille  download it again
[22:22] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: All I can think of is to check again that the permissions in your /home directory have not changed . "you" own all the files .
[22:23] <TJ-> clrae: OK. Are you using a Linux host to download/install the ISO to USB?
[22:23] <AndroUser> .  Is my user
[22:23] <AndroUser> Bashing-om.
[22:23] <AndroUser> ..  Is root
[22:24] <AndroUser> Is my user = is owned by
[22:24] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: All out of ideas - as I too have no experience with the KDE .
[22:24] <AndroUser> I see
[22:24] <TJ-> AndroUser: "find ${HOME} ! -user ${USER}" will report all dirs/files that aren't owned by your user
[22:24] <AndroUser> Thank you anyway
[22:24] <clrae>  clrae: yes live 14.10 ubuntu
[22:24] <clrae> TJ- ;yes live 14.10 ubuntu
[22:25] <AndroUser> It kind of found a lot... Did I mistype something?
[22:25] <goto__> we need the translations soon and momentarily I'm  not sure how fast the translations will get into our Xubuntu machines if we work on the official translation webends
[22:25] <TJ-> clrae: The same one that is reporting the I/O errors? That could be a problem if the corruption affects the tools you use to write the ISO, so just keep that in mind - if the first attempt to download/verify doesn't work, you might need to do it from another PC/operating system
[22:26] <goto__> just if someone here is familiar with the translation and update process
[22:26] <AndroUser> TJ- It gave a full report of a lot of files
[22:26] <TJ-> AndroUser: To check you can add -ls to see the file details; "find ${HOME} ! -user ${USER} -ls"
[22:27] <TJ-> AndroUser: "!" means NOT in case you're wondering what the command is doing
[22:27] <AndroUser> But what am I looking for?
[22:27] <AndroUser> Oh.
[22:27] <TJ-> AndroUser: ${USER} is your current user-name, ${HOME} is your user's home directory path
[22:28] <TJ-> AndroUser: so the command is listing all files NOT owned by the user who's home directory it is
[22:28] <AndroUser> Question is
[22:28] <AndroUser> What fie
[22:28] <AndroUser> What files could be critical
[22:28] <clrae_> TJ- ; sorry i got disconnected , i said i will download it to /tmp directory
[22:29] <TJ-> AndroUser: anything in a 'dot' file or directory (e.g. .config, .local, .dmrc and so forth)
[22:29] <goto__> how fast does the translations get updated?
[22:29] <TJ-> clrae_: OK, do that and then verify the hash. if that matches then you can write to the USB
[22:30] <TJ-> goto__: ask the translators; this channel is for end-user support, not development issues
[22:30] <goto__> TJ-: #translators is dead :P
[22:30] <AndroUser> Yes,i have a .config folder owned by root
[22:31] <TJ-> goto__: you have to be patient, or else use the mailing list
[22:31] <TJ-> AndroUser: that's definitely bad
[22:31] <goto__> TJ-: I'll use the mailing list later, thank you :)
[22:31] <AndroUser> .?
[22:31] <AndroUser> Can I do a detailed search for the .config file?
[22:31] <TJ-> AndroUser: "sudo chown -R ${USER}:${USER} ${HOME}"
[22:32] <daftykins> ugh so you were wrong earlier AndroUser :(
[22:32] <daftykins> all this time!
[22:32] <daftykins> :)
[22:32] <AndroUser> 😱😱😱😱😱😱
[22:32] <daftykins> yeah i don't see that UTF stuff, just squares
[22:32] <clrae_> ubutu : please the link to how to verify the hash if you may
[22:33] <daftykins> clrae_: who is this ubutu you refer to? :)
[22:33] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | clrae_
[22:33] <AndroUser> TJ- what does the command do? Check the ownership?
[22:33] <AndroUser> Or set it
[22:34] <clrae_> daftykins :  ahh it's ubottu
[22:34] <daftykins> clrae_: mmm that's a bot... :)
[22:34] <TJ-> AndroUser: it sets it to the ${USER}
[22:35] <AndroUser> OK.
[22:35] <TJ-> AndroUser: the '-R' does it recursively for all files and directories below ${HOME}
[22:35] <AndroUser> Hmm
[22:35] <AndroUser> I feel like this was a dangerous move.
[22:36] <AndroUser> What if I had some files I needed root ownership?
[22:36] <daftykins> you don't.
[22:36] <AndroUser> Hmm
[22:36] <TJ-> AndroUser: no files in a user's ${HOME} should be owned by root
[22:36] <AndroUser> Protected files? With passwords?
[22:36] <haskell__> noob question: is it safe to use WeeChat for IRC, I found a list of security issues: https://weechat.org/download/security/
[22:36] <AndroUser> It didn't fix it, BTW. I'll just restart to be sure.
[22:37] <TJ-> AndroUser: no; files you want to restrict should have their permissions set to just 0600 (u+rx,g-rwx,o-rwx)
[22:37] <AndroUser> It's restrictions I've set using the plasma gui
[22:37] <AndroUser> So..
[22:38] <daftykins> just do as you're told please :)
[22:38] <AndroUser> Lol, k
[22:38] <AndroUser> OK, I reset, but it still does the login reset. I'm checking ownership now.
[22:38] <daftykins> you should've rebooted
[22:39] <AndroUser> Daftykins, yeah I did.
[22:39] <AndroUser> It's running the find now. Nothing reported yet.
[22:40] <daftykins> 'the find' ?
[22:40] <AndroUser> Sudo find $home....
[22:40] <AndroUser> I own everything
[22:40] <TJ-> daftykins: checking for files not owned by ${USER} using 'find'
[22:40] <AndroUser> And I still can't login.
[22:40] <daftykins> ah
[22:41] <daftykins> yep back to reinstall time ;)
[22:41] <TJ-> AndroUser: OK, now can you "pastebinit ${HOME}/.xession-errors"
[22:41] <daftykins> honestly i vacuumed half my house since i was helping last :>
[22:41] <AndroUser> Lol
[22:41] <AndroUser> Xd
[22:41] <AndroUser> I can't stop laughing
[22:41] <TJ-> AndroUser: I run kubuntu here, used both sddm and lightdm. There are a few issues we can chase down that should sort this out. Are you using SDDM or Lightdm right now?
[22:42] <AndroUser> Sddm
[22:42] <TJ-> AndroUser: same here - makes it easy to compare
[22:42] <AndroUser> O don't have .Xsession-errors
[22:42] <TJ-> AndroUser: lower-case X x
[22:42] <TJ-> and an s in there; I typoed
[22:42] <AndroUser> Yes, lowercase x, sorry
[22:43] <TJ-> AndroUser: "pastebinit ${HOME}/.xsession-errors"
[22:43] <AndroUser> There is no .xsession-errors
[22:44] <TJ-> AndroUser: OK, that tells us something interesting then. It tells us the login session never gets as far as your actual user.
[22:44] <TJ-> AndroUser: "sudo pastebinit /var/log/auth.log"
[22:44] <schoewilliam> Hey guys, I just can't pair my Microsoft Arc Touch mouse, do you have any ideas? I can't find anything online
[22:45] <TJ-> schoewilliam: Bluetooth? Which Ubuntu release?
[22:45] <schoewilliam> TJ-, latest one, all up to date
[22:45] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12657881
[22:45] <daftykins> https://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/arc-touch-mouse#details
[22:46] <daftykins> surely pairing is OS independant
[22:46] <schoewilliam> daftykins, it's that one, but the bluetooth version
[22:46] <AndroUser> There are some errors there.
[22:46] <schoewilliam> (not with the usb dongle)
[22:47] <daftykins> ah ok
[22:47] <daftykins> bluetooth :(
[22:47] <schoewilliam> TJ-, yes, bluetooth
[22:47] <schoewilliam> :/
[22:48] <TJ-> schoewilliam: Check "/var/log/kern.log" and "/var/log/syslog" for clues initially
[22:48] <TJ-> AndroUser: does your user account have an encrypted home directory?
[22:49] <AndroUser> Nope
[22:49] <TJ-> AndroUser: I'm suspicous of "kcheckpass[3384]: pam_ecryptfs: seteuid error"; Have you restarted the PC since changing the ownership of files?
[22:50] <AndroUser> Ya
[22:54] <TJ-> AndroUser: OK, we can ignore it, it isn't relevant: bug 1085706
[22:55] <AndroUser> Ok
[22:55] <TJ-> AndroUser: what time does that system currently report ("date") ?
[22:56] <AndroUser> Sat oct 3 18:58..
[22:56] <AndroUser> 56*
[22:57] <TJ-> AndroUser: The reason I ask is I'm trying to map the actions we're doing to the timestamps in the auth.log. The entries at 18:29 ( about 1/2 hour ago) show a lid-close and suspend event. Was that before you restarted the PC?
[22:57] <AndroUser> No
[22:58] <AndroUser> I did close the lid about 4 hours ago
[22:58] <AndroUser> The times are right, if that's what you're asking
[22:59] <TJ-> AndroUser: Hmmm, it looks like the log isn't receiving all the messages I'd expect to see, which may point to wider system problems.
[23:00] <AndroUser> Wow
[23:00] <arooni> about once a day my ubuntu 14.04 locks up when i open too many chrome tabs and load jumps to 15 or 20... (i have a dual core 2.5 ghz intel i5)... is there anyway to learn what specifically is contributing to high load?
[23:00] <AndroUser> I mean, woah
[23:02] <TJ-> AndroUser: can you "pastebinit /var/log/sddm.log"
[23:05] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12658278
[23:08] <TJ-> AndroUser: Is it Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[23:09] <AndroUser> TJ- 15.03
[23:09] <AndroUser> 04*
[23:10] <TJ-> AndroUser: That surprises me; are you using the Upstart boot option ( the logs don't look like systemd-journald output)
[23:10] <AndroUser> I've tried that option before, yes
[23:11] <AndroUser> I should try to switch it back?
[23:11] <AndroUser> (even though I don't remember what the original was)
[23:12] <TJ-> AndroUser: check for now, tell me what this shows: "cat /proc/cmdline"
[23:13] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12658443
[23:14] <AndroUser> Could it be pointing to my safe boot image?
[23:14] <AndroUser> Boot-fix or whatever it's called
[23:15] <TJ-> AndroUser: AHA! now it all makes sense! You're started correctly in systemd mode (node Upstart) but you've previously used Upstart. In 15.04, although systemd took over from Upstart its logging service (journald) wasn't configured to pipe the log messages to the traditional rsyslogd (which writes to the /var/log/ files). That explains why those log files don't contain recent timestamps to match our actions!
[23:16] <pilantra157> ola
[23:16] <TJ-> AndroUser: Can you "sudo journalctl | tail -n 2000 | pastebinit"
[23:16] <pilantra157> Algum brasileiro
[23:16] <ratrace> TJ-: journalctl has -n
[23:16] <pilantra157> sudo
[23:16] <TJ-> ratrace: Yeah... but old habits die hard :)
[23:17] <ratrace> TJ-: lol yeah.
[23:17] <TJ-> ratrace: thanks for reminding me though :)
[23:18] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12658563
[23:18] <TJ-> I have to say I'm annoyed that systemd-journalctl doesn't include pastebinit functionality! It includes everything else!
[23:18] <energizer> I need to run windows for a program that doesn't work in Wine. Does anyone know how to get windows in a VM? I don't have a windows disc.
[23:18] <TJ-> AndroUser: ahhhh... proper data :D
[23:19] <daftykins> energizer: well you need a legal copy, so if you have a serial key you can download it from microsoft direct
[23:19] <AndroUser> TJ- pull request?
[23:19] <daftykins> energizer: ask ##windows for more
[23:19] <AndroUser> 😉
[23:20] <TJ-> AndroUser: and at last we have it!! "18:38:34 nlev-X550LA kernel: kscreen_backend[2173]: segfault at 10 ip 00007fa1d9a91bd0 sp 00007ffd2079fa08 error 4 in KSC_XRandR.so[7fa1d9a7c000+22000]"
[23:20] <daftykins> :)
[23:20] <AndroUser> Segfault
[23:21] <TJ-> AndroUser: 5 segfaults in 5 separate executables
[23:22] <AndroUser> Oh no... Reinstall? 😖
[23:22] <ratrace> actually they're all mostly in libqxcb.so
[23:23] <TJ-> ratrace: just what I was about to say
[23:23] <TJ-> AndroUser: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libqt5gui5 libqt5gui5-gles"
[23:24] <AndroUser> Xcb?
[23:24] <AndroUser> !libqxcb.so
[23:24] <daftykins> that's not a bot trigger
[23:24] <AndroUser> Aw
[23:25] <AndroUser> Some package could not be installed
[23:25] <TJ-> AndroUser: hang on, then, stop / abort
[23:25] <AndroUser> ?
[23:26] <TJ-> AndroUser: Press Ctrl+C if it hasn't already gone ahead, then do  "pastebinit <( apt list libqt5gui5* )"
[23:27] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12658764
[23:27] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12658782
[23:27] <AndroUser> That includes the star I forgot
[23:28] <TJ-> AndroUser: OK, so the "-gles" version is not installed. To be sure the last command was good redo "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libqt5gui5"
[23:28] <TJ-> AndroUser: And then lets try starting the GUI: "sudo systemctl start sddm"
[23:29] <AndroUser> Um
[23:29] <AndroUser> I guess we forgot to stop something before
[23:29] <AndroUser> Because it didn't change anything.
[23:29] <TJ-> AndroUser: possibly
[23:29] <AndroUser> Still resets login
[23:29] <AndroUser> It did install the lib
[23:30] <AndroUser> Reboot?
[23:30] <TJ-> AndroUser: OK, that's fine, but now we look at the log and see if it got further: "pastebinit <( sudo journalctl -n 1000 )"
[23:30] <Hulio> i ca'nt install osx 10.11  at all
[23:30] <Hulio> created with unibeast but can't install
[23:30] <Hulio> very weird
[23:30] <Hulio> if i use EFI it wont boot
[23:30] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12658876
[23:30] <TJ-> Hulio: This is for Ubuntu/Linux support, not Mac OS X
[23:30] <daftykins> Hulio: not very relevant in an #ubuntu channel
[23:31] <Hulio> oops
[23:31] <Hulio> sorry
[23:31] <TJ-> :D
[23:31] <AndroUser> He wasn't to far away
[23:31] <Hulio> wrong channel,
[23:31] <Hulio> brb
[23:31] <Hulio> sorry
[23:31] <AndroUser> I mean, they're both Linux
[23:31] <AndroUser> Or Unix, at least
[23:31] <AndroUser> 😜
[23:32] <AndroUser> Just trying to piss off some people in here
[23:32] <AndroUser> Not those who are trying to help solve my problem though!!
[23:32] <TJ-> AndroUser: "apt list libkf5screen*"
[23:32] <daftykins> AndroUser: lets stop going off topic.
[23:33] <AndroUser> 2 entities
[23:33] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12658979
[23:35] <TJ-> AndroUser: Thanks.. now for the hard work. The same segfaults occurred. That suggests that *maybe* there's a library/libraries that all those reported libraries depend on that has the fault in it. I'm trying to cross-reference the common dependencies here, but each has between 20 and 50 so I might be a while
[23:35] <AndroUser> Duck!
[23:37] <TJ-> AndroUser: "apt list libqt5core*"
[23:38] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12659138
[23:39] <TJ-> AndroUser: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libqt5core5a"
[23:39] <AndroUser> Reinstalled
[23:39] <TJ-> AndroUser: "sudo systemctl restart sddm"
[23:39] <AndroUser> No errors
[23:40] <AndroUser> Login resets
[23:41] <TJ-> AndroUser: OK, "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libxcb1"
[23:41] <TJ-> AndroUser: Then again "sudo systemctl restart sddm" ... if that fails "pastebinit <( sudo journalctl -n 500 )"
[23:41] <TJ-> AndroUser: brb... coffee break :)
[23:42] <AndroUser> Likewise. Food break
[23:42] <AndroUser> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12659275
[23:48] <jacob___> ubuntu crashed for the 4th time
[23:48] <daftykins> from what?
[23:48] <jacob___> i hate this shit, it freezes alot, and now i have a dead brick after a reset
[23:48] <daftykins> ok please don't use that language here.
[23:48] <jacob___> for no reason, sometimes, my GUI freezes for no reason
[23:49] <daftykins> so it's no longer booting?
[23:49] <daftykins> old system or new? laptop or desktop?
[23:49] <jacob___> it boots but my windows manager only shows background and desktop icons
[23:49] <jacob___> new 14.01 64 bit
[23:49] <daftykins> that's not a real version
[23:49] <jacob___> version what
[23:50] <jacob___> kernel 3.8..30
[23:50] <daftykins> "14.01"
[23:50] <jacob___> trusty?
[23:50] <daftykins> that'd be 14.04 which uses the 3.13 kernel
[23:50] <jacob___> what is a version it says 14.01 LTS
[23:50] <daftykins> "cat /etc/issue" to confirm
[23:50] <jacob___> i downloaded a month ago
[23:50] <daftykins> and "uname -r" for the kernel
[23:50] <jacob___> so its pretty recent
[23:50] <Guest5371> What is the .2 version?
[23:51] <jacob___> I cant open a bash shell
[23:51] <daftykins> Guest5371: what?
[23:51] <daftykins> jacob___: login at the TTY, ctrl+alt+F1
[23:51] <jacob___> I cant open a bash shell,
[23:51] <jacob___> that doesnt work
[23:51] <daftykins> smells like AMD graphics
[23:51] <Guest5371> What is the .2 version?
[23:51] <jacob___> .2?
[23:51] <mjayk> jacob___: + fn key if its a laptop maybe ?
[23:51] <daftykins> Guest5371: .2 version of what? explain yourself
[23:51] <Guest5371> 14.04.2
[23:51] <daftykins> ok you're going to need to either boot recovery mode or boot a live session, jacob___
[23:52] <jacob___> i know about ctrl+alt+f1
[23:52] <jacob___> its not working
[23:52] <Guest5371> daftykins in some places it says .1 and in others .2.
[23:52] <daftykins> Guest5371: the second release of 14.04 trusty, with the utopic HWE stack (3.16 kernel)
[23:52] <jacob___> i am in a livecd, thats how i can enter this freenode channel
[23:52] <daftykins> yeah there's also 14.04.3 with the vivid HWE, 3.19 kernel
[23:52] <jacob___> i can mount a disk and look in /etc/distribution release whataver that name is
[23:53] <daftykins> jacob___: right but most people have many devices, so i couldn't assume that.
[23:53] <daftykins> /etc/issue
[23:53] <jacob___> its an acer, laptop
[23:53] <daftykins> ok and old or new?
[23:53] <Guest5371> daftykins ah ok that explains why I've seen utopic packages.
[23:53] <jacob___> what is /etc/issue, never heard of that before
[23:53] <jacob___> Its 3 year old laptop
[23:53] <daftykins> it's a file that you can cat for your version
[23:53] <jacob___> so not superold ok
[23:53] <daftykins> SSD or mechanical disk?
[23:53] <jacob___> SSD
[23:54] <jacob___> my disk works fine, i can boot till unity
[23:54] <jacob___> but no menu
[23:54] <jacob___> only desktop background and icons
[23:54] <jacob___> icons work
[23:54] <daftykins> ok, so have you mounted your /home yet?
[23:54] <jacob___> I am now on a live cd
[23:54] <daftykins> yeah...
[23:54] <jacob___> otherwise i would not be able to talk to you
[23:54] <jacob___> i can mount the disk on /media/broken
[23:54] <Guest5371> Does ubuntu accept https connections for security updates?
[23:54] <daftykins> you keep repeating yourself, none of that prevents you from mounting your /home.
[23:55] <jacob___> daftykins: you are not making sense
[23:55] <AndroUser> Back
[23:55] <daftykins> yes i am.
[23:55] <jacob___> i can only mount THE WHOLE DISK not only home
[23:55] <jacob___> you get that?
[23:55] <daftykins> you can mount the physical disk from the live session
[23:55] <TJ-> AndroUser: Are you able to copy-paste commands I type here into the problem PC? I have a rather complicated compound command for you
[23:55] <daftykins> right but /home is sometimes on another partition too :)
[23:55] <daftykins> jacob___: i don't think your getting worked up is going to help anything right now.
[23:55] <jacob___> i can mount / not HOME, please use the correct names ok?
[23:56] <daftykins> i am doing, you're just developing an attitude over minor quibbles.
[23:56] <daftykins> you haven't even gotten the version from /etc/issue yet.
[23:56] <WSergio> Great atitude, guy
[23:56] <jacob___> mounting ROOT (not home ) on /media
[23:56] <jacob___> moment....
[23:56] <Guest5371> Let's not be quick to accuse now, guys.
[23:56] <daftykins> Guest5371: keep out of this please.
[23:57] <daftykins> most people create a separate partition for /home since it's safer that way :)
[23:57] <jacob___> unbelievable the RESCUE CD doesnt know about bash
[23:57] <jacob___> i cant beleieve this
[23:57] <daftykins> live sessions work just fine with bash 0o
[23:57] <jacob___> there is no bash shell on the install cd of ubuntu?
[23:57] <bomber> TJ- sorry, I'm back
[23:57] <daftykins> your media might be bad.
[23:58] <jacob___> daftykins:  its a rescue cd
[23:58] <jacob___> are you mental?
[23:58] <jacob___> jesys
[23:58] <TJ-> bomber: see this command, it's complicated, hope you can copy-paste it! http://paste.ubuntu.com/12659801/
[23:58] <daftykins> jacob___: i fail to see what point you're trying to make.
[23:58] <jacob___> dafty, can you revoke yourself from this discussion, you dont sound like and expert
[23:59] <jacob___> TJ- I am trying
[23:59] <daftykins> jacob___: quite frankly i see no reason to continue assisting an angry user who's directing their frustrations in the wrong direction, so either you calm down and start applying your efforts to the task at hand or i will give up
[23:59] <Guest5371> OK daftykins, then let's get into something else. Does ubuntu accept https connections for security updates?
[23:59] <daftykins> Guest5371: no, i didn't reply because i don't have an answer for you :)
[23:59] <jacob___> bye daftykins
[23:59] <mjayk> wow