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bill_lxHaving trouble loading 15.04 onto Microsoft Surface (Not Pro). Installing from usb get a few lines on screen then nothing. I have checked around abit and found a few similar cases on non-Surface machines. Would appreciate help because Surface is a nice machine - too good for windows.02:01
holsteinbill_lx: you can look for other GPU drivers.. i will try lots of options til i can get the live iso working on new hardware02:07
holsteinsometimes, the compromises can be challenging to deal with.. since linux is not supported02:07
holsteinbill_lx: a lug member has the suface (not pro) and said he creates his own kernel for it02:08
bill_lxI can get debian jessie to install but have to load windows, then boot out and load as device  - ugly02:09
bill_lxI don't have skill or know-how to build own kernel - can read - so know where can get instructions?02:11
holsteinbill_lx: well, thats the thing.. all the "instructions" are for what is supported for the hardware.. windows02:11
holsteinso, it'l just be up to you to decide how you want to deal with providing support.. for me, i always keep the vesa driver on the table02:12
holsteinbut, i know, i have personally just avoided that hardware for this reason.. i was surprised when the LUG member had one..02:12
bill_lxDo you know how he did it - or how i can contact to find out for myself02:14
holsteinbill_lx: sure, but, he is using fedora..02:14
holsteinits just available as whatever the fedora equivalent is of a PPA02:14
holsteinbill_lx: i am asking the user if you can speak to them..02:16
bill_lxOk - :-D02:16
holsteinbill_lx: the person is shvr in #wnclug and i have told him you would be asking..02:17
bill_lxThank you - lots02:17
holsteinyou can /j #wnclug he is there now02:18
tachibanahi xubuntu03:06
tachibanait took a while to get used to xfce4 for some reason and i thought i was really missing a quicklauncher03:06
tachibanabut now i realize a quicklauncher would be one small step away from probably being an Unity bloat replica anyways03:07
holsteinuse a lighter dock.. if you want03:08
holsteinyou can replicate a dock looking thing with an xfce panel..03:08
tachibanaI kind of feel like just going to lxde03:08
tachibanathat mouse-dog looking blue thing is a weird logo too03:09
KapelloHey guys. I'm having trouble installing, anything really.. It gives me an E:/ (or something like that) error, I'm considering a re-install, but figured I'd try to fix it first, any of you know a solution?08:25
KapelloAlright I'm going to ehm.. Install Mint XFCE and see how that works out.08:30
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xubuntu51wHi, can someone tell me will my files get deleted if I boot older version of kernel from grub? thank you19:53
xubuntu51wanyone?19:56
Snicksiethey will not be deleted xubuntu51w19:56
xubuntu51wthanks, new to everything in linux and i cant lose files.19:58
liquidsnakeanyone have trouble installing java?21:46
liquidsnakei need it for a chat group i'm in21:47
knomewhy not ask the real question you have about installing java?21:47
liquidsnakei think i may have found a workaround but have yet to test it21:47
holstein!java21:47
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.21:47
liquidsnakeok ty21:47
liquidsnakeok i downloaded the java tar.gz file. Now how do i install it? The installation instructions didn't help22:02
liquidsnakeis there a command i can use in terminal22:02
knomeliquidsnake, why aren't you installing java from the repositories?22:03
liquidsnakehow do i do that?22:03
knomeinstall openjdk-7-jre ?22:03
knomedid you read the java wiki page at all?22:03
liquidsnakeyeah but it doesn;t make any sense to me22:04
morfdefault-jre default-jdk22:04
morfit's simle to remember22:04
liquidsnakeso are those commands to enter in terminal22:04
morf:)22:04
morfmore like apt-get install default-jre default-jdk22:04
knomeliquidsnake, well then you should ask.. not go elsewhere and start installing software that is from untrusted sources22:04
liquidsnakeok22:04
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jjlavaHi all23:51

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