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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:10
marshmnhi all; any idea how I can install Windows inside a VirtualBox VM (on Ubuntu host), when the Windows installation media is a USB stick that I created when I first got this laptop (using some app inside windows to create a system restore disk)?09:10
marshmnVirtualBox doesn't seem to see my USB stick at all to map it through to OS09:11
marshmnor machine rather09:11
marshmnnor does converting it to a disk image with DD seem to work - VirtualBox doesn't like that09:11
marshmnI then tried converting the image to an ISO - but that fails because the image file is bigger than 4GB09:12
daftykinswhich windows?09:12
marshmnWindows 8.109:12
daftykinsdo you have a legal key?09:12
marshmnyes09:12
daftykinsdownload it from microsoft with their utility, it can create an ISO fresh09:12
daftykinsthen you can use that09:12
marshmnI got that from the machine before I trashed Windows and put Ubuntu on09:12
marshmnoh, I can download it?09:12
marshmnhmm09:12
daftykinsmmhmm09:12
marshmnI know you can download Windows 10 - didn't realise you can get 8.109:13
daftykinsand 7 allegedly09:13
marshmnI need to run a Windows executable to do this?09:14
marshmnthere lies a slight issue :)09:14
daftykinsyip09:14
daftykinsmmm guess it's a bit chicken and egg, you don't have any windows media at all?09:14
marshmnI have no Windows running personally, but I'm sure I can find a Windows machine I can use in the office09:15
marshmnthanks for your help09:15
daftykinsnp09:16
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mjaykare there any ubuntu / linux groups in manchester12:20
penguin42mjayk: Yes12:21
penguin42mjayk: There is manlug12:21
penguin42mjayk: http://manlug.org/   next meeting in a couple of weeks12:22
* penguin42 must write his talk for it12:22
penguin42mjayk: There is also an Openstack group http://www.meetup.com/Manchester-OpenStack-Meetup/events/223737111/ if you're into more system stuff12:22
penguin42mjayk: Oh and http://madlab.org.uk/groups/manchester-free-software/12:24
mjaykpenguin42: thanks alot sorry I was afk12:47
mjaykpenguin42: i take it you attend?12:47
penguin42mjayk: Yes, most months12:47
mjaykcool cool ill keep an eye out for when the next one is12:48
penguin42mjayk: 17th I think, there's also a mailing list you can join that's mostly about the meetings12:48
mjaykjust going over the site now :)12:49
mjaykcurrybeer :o12:49
penguin42oh yeh, that group I think do Friday evenings once a month, mostly involving the curry mile12:50
zmoylan-picurrybeer? a real timesaver :-)13:00
mjaykt13:06
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diddledanzmoylan-pi: that's a good laxative14:27
DJOnesIs it just me, or has BBC Sports twitter account gone pretty much silent on the RU World Cup, from messages every few minutes, to 1-2 an hour15:03
DJOnesAnd on that note, BBC Sports links to "Where did it all go wrong" :)15:04
DJOnesPretty easy to answer, they let the oposition score more points than them in 2 out of 3 games15:04
diddledanI'm really annoyed that people are saying the manager should be sacked15:09
diddledanI hate this pattern of employing a guy for a month before a major international and then sacking him when we don't win15:10
diddledanfootball is worse at that tho15:11
diddledanseems the contracts must be stating as a condition of employment that the team cannot lose any matches ever15:11
DJOnesdiddledan: Yeah, agree with that, Rugby Union isn't my sport (Rugby League is), but sacking a manager for short term poor results is wrong.  The manager needs time to build, it doesn't happen overnight, it takes years to develop a decent manager.  Look at Alex Ferguson at Man United, with the results he had at the start of his career, he'd have been sacked quickly nowadays, instead he was given time and became one of the worlds greatest ever ...15:13
DJOnes... managers15:13
diddledanexactly15:13
DJOnesMy Rugby League team have done the same, we've had a manager in place for 3-4 years, never been great, but has been building over time, to the point he;s been mentioned as a future England manager15:14
diddledanand it takes time for a team to become cohesive too - football is terrible at "buy the most expensive player. blame manger when that player has a huge ego and doesn't play well in the team causing the team to lose"15:14
DJOnesDefinately, in Rugby League we've had a guy come into club ownership (with experience as a horse racing owner) that seems to think if you but 17 red rums, shergars etc, they'd all be able to play together, when their best points are their indivudality15:16
diddledanI feel that the best players are those that work well with a team rather than being very good at kicking against a goalpost15:17
DJOnesIn any sport, you could buy the worlds best players, but their own indivduality would stop them being a good team, and as they say "there's no I in TEAM"15:18
diddledanbeing a good kicker is great if your team can get the opportunity but if the team doesn't work together to generate opportunity then you can have the best kicker in the world but lose every game15:18
DJOnesYep15:18
diddledanthe rugby manager definitely shouldn't be sacked imo15:19
DJOnesI'd agree15:19
diddledanand bringing it up the instant we fall out of the championship is just unfair15:19
DJOnesAt the end of the day, a manager/coach gives suggestions on how to play, if the oposition do something different to expected the plans are useless and its up to the players on the pitch to deal with it and play to the best of their ability15:21
diddledanyou really need a decent amount of time to analyse and digest whether anything went wrong or we were just bested by a better team. only then if there is blame that can be attributed shoudl you consider such actions15:21
DJOnesAnd saying that, no player ever goes out to not play at their best, they play for pride15:21
diddledanunless they're being bribed :-p15:22
DJOnesVery true, no matter how good you are, somebody else can be better (despite what you're told)15:22
DJOnesHeh, yeah, but thats normally football or snooker15:22
diddledanlol15:22
DJOnesFeels wierd, defending an England RU coach, when I don't have much interest in Rugby Union, and I support Wales as well :)15:24
DJOnesMust be looking forward to the 6 Nations15:24
DJOnesGuaranteed 3 points :)15:24
diddledanI support both england and wales equally - makes it interesting to watch a match between them :-)15:25
DJOnesI bet, born in England, Welsh ancestry (a few generations back), went to Uni in Wales, but more Welsh than England15:25
DJOnesBased on ancestry, I should support England, Wales, Chili, Scotland and Ireland15:26
diddledanI think my welshness stems from sometime in the 19th century - my dad's family moved from the valleys to the east-end of london somewhen around there iirc15:27
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twagerAm looking to buy a new desktop...any recommends wellcome.17:57
penguin42twager: What are your criteria?17:58
penguin42cheap, fast, small, beige?17:59
twagerAs long as it is ok with Linux I am happy18:01
penguin42twager: Right, but do you want to buy a cheap system or do you want to spend more and buy a faster system?18:04
twagerUp tp £50018:05
penguin42ok, and do you game a lot - i.e. do you want to spend more on graphics?18:06
twagerNo games..Was looking at Novatech ?18:06
* penguin42 has heard of them but has never bought from them18:07
penguin42twager: So I'd suggest about 8GB of RAM maybe Intel i5 CPU, and 128GB SSD disk from a good brand18:08
twagerI used to build my own but old age has taken its toll18:09
penguin42haha tell me about it :-)18:09
penguin42twager: The problem is some cheap prebuilts have awful PSUs18:10
twagerMight just renew the mobo on the broken box18:11
penguin42twager: Some places will build from your choice of parts I think18:12
twagerLocal dealer will do that ..Think I will pay him a visit see what he can do.18:13
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brobostigonone of the most unhelpful responses to a bug report on the planet, https://github.com/magefree/mage/issues/130020:44
diddledaneh? that's terrible20:45
diddledanI guess the developer has never heard of responsive layouts20:46
brobostigonexactly.20:47
diddledana much more appropriate answer could have been "not at the moment, but I'll look into smaller screens sometime in the future - pull requests welcome"20:48
brobostigonexactly v.220:48
diddledanhe hasn't even considered the potential of adaptation - just closed the issue . really sucky20:49
brobostigonabsolutly.20:49
brobostigoni really should make an example of the plonker.20:52
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diddledanthis is evil usage of javascript: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpD2R2iXiiU22:53
daftykins36 mins :(22:54

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