[00:00] <Guest5371> daftykins is there a package to install mirrors? I can try other servers.
[00:00] <daftykins> you mean change mirrors? there's a GUI to pick one.
[00:00] <TJ-> bomber: Or you can fetch it directly from my web-site as shell script: "wget https://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/lib-list.sh"
[00:01] <Guest5371> daftykins I mean install them there is no mirror in the sources.conf only the main ubuntu urls.
[00:01] <daftykins> Guest5371: those are a mirror, you're talking about a PPA i take it
[00:01] <bomber> Got it
[00:01] <daftykins> !ppa
[00:01] <bomber> A whole list of libs
[00:02] <jacob___> can i install ubuntu without whiping the disk clean?
[00:02] <Guest5371> daftykins if ubuntu.com is a miror I am talking about other mirrors.
[00:03] <Guest5371> daftykins unless it is something like a round robin forwarding url such as irc.freenode.net.
[00:03] <TJ-> bomber: That command has created a list of all the packages that contain libraries that libqxcb.so depends on. That allows us to reinstall all those packages at one go rather than figure each out manually
[00:03] <daftykins> Guest5371: changing mirror would mean replacing e.g. archive.ubuntu.com with some other host, is that what you're talking about?
[00:03] <TJ-> bomber: if you've run the script can you "pastebinit /tmp/lib-list.txt"
[00:03] <daftykins> Guest5371: no, the mirror is picked based on location during install
[00:03] <daftykins> jacob___: not easily, since you don't have a separate /home :)
[00:04] <Guest5371> daftykins: close, I want to add urls these being called mirrors for this scope of support.
[00:04] <jacob___> nagging about home again
[00:04] <bomber> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12659999
[00:04] <bomber> Beautiful bin
[00:04] <bomber> Number *
[00:04] <daftykins> Guest5371: i believe you're confused about standard terms, so what is it you hope to achieve by adding something else?
[00:05] <Guest5371> daftykins ssl access the url it is connecting to is not accepting on 443.
[00:05] <mjayk> jacob___: it would be easier to wipe and use your backups to restore your home, especially if you are currently having problems
[00:05] <TJ-> bomber: I'd like you to do a test-run of converting the line-feeds into spaces so the list becomes space-separated instead of line-separated. If that looks OK we'll then pass that to apt-get --reinstall, OK?
[00:05] <Guest5371> Usually the main domain name is not called a mirror i.e. ubuntu.com.
[00:05] <daftykins> Guest5371: i refer you to my earlier answer of saying i don't know about SSL access to the repos.
[00:05] <DosTuMai> jacob___: Take a breather for a few, please. Before you do something you'll regret.
[00:05] <bomber> Yep
[00:06] <daftykins> Guest5371: well, it is one as it's the default repo
[00:06] <TJ-> bomber: "cat /tmp/lib-list.txt | tr \\n \\  "  <-- those last 2 spaces are VITAL
[00:06] <ubuntu-kylin> made
[00:06] <Guest5371> Is there a "fastest-mirror" script plugin to add to apt?
[00:07] <bomber> I don't think it spaces it proteolytic
[00:07] <bomber> Properly
[00:07] <ubuntu-kylin> maybe
[00:07] <daftykins> Guest5371: is your host a CLI only server, or desktop edition? because as mentioned, there is a repo picker in the settings
[00:08] <TJ-> bomber: we're wanting it to look something like this "lib32gcc1 lib32stdc++6 libc6 libc6-i386 libc6-x32  ..."
[00:08] <bomber> Yeah, so the last command didn't work
[00:08] <Guest5371> daftykins: I am building something desktop for now but it is going to be a hybrid.
[00:08] <TJ-> bomber: weird; it works OK here. glad we tested though!
[00:08] <daftykins> Guest5371: my question is whether it has a GUI right now or not
[00:09] <Guest5371> Yes.
[00:09] <ratrace> TJ-: if I understand what you're doing correctly, why isn't 'cat /tmp/lib-list.txt | xargs apt-get install' sufficient?
[00:09] <TJ-> bomber: are you using the bash shell, or another one? if not, do "bash" then try it again
[00:09] <bomber> Bash
[00:09] <TJ-> ratrace to the rescue again!
[00:09] <bomber> But directly from tty
[00:09] <daftykins> Guest5371: Unity desktop? aka standard ubuntu?
[00:09] <bomber> So I don't need to explicitly imply the usage of bash
[00:10] <jacob___> i seriously dislike ubuntu, when i get this problem solved i am moving to another distro
[00:10] <TJ-> bomber: "cat /tmp/lib-list.txt | xargs | sudo apt-get --reinstall install"
[00:10] <Guest5371> daftykins yes.
[00:10] <jacob___> its the 4th crash within 6 month
[00:10] <ratrace> TJ-: without the second |
[00:10] <daftykins> Guest5371: so then go into system settings, pick the software item at the bottom then you'll find the mirror chooser
[00:10] <TJ-> ratrace: Arrg.... bomber stop
[00:10] <TJ-> bomber: "cat /tmp/lib-list.txt | sudo xargs apt-get --reinstall install"
[00:11] <TJ-> ratrace: I'm glad you're there :D
[00:11] <ratrace> lol :)
[00:11]  * TJ- needs to get to bed!
[00:11] <bomber> 92 will be reinstalled
[00:11] <bomber> Based on cat
[00:11] <TJ-> bomber: that'll be better than reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch... if it works!
[00:11] <bomber> I'm excited! 😄
[00:12] <bomber> Shall bash the text file?
[00:12] <bomber> Shall i*
[00:12] <daftykins> jacob___: this is probably not its' fault you know...
[00:12] <DosTuMai> jacob___: Have you tried a new download? It could be your disc is corrupt.
[00:12] <Guest5371> daftykins: yes under other. very well.
[00:13] <TJ-> bomber: just use the last command I gave you
[00:13] <TJ-> bomber: "cat /tmp/lib-list.txt | sudo xargs apt-get --reinstall install"
[00:13] <bomber> I did
[00:13] <bomber> But it aborts
[00:13] <bomber> Huh...
[00:13] <bomber> Just noticed that now
[00:13] <TJ-> bomber: OK, can you paste the error(s) ?
[00:13] <bomber> No error
[00:13] <TJ-> bomber: how does it 'abort' ?
[00:13] <bomber> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Abort
[00:14] <bomber> By itself
[00:14] <TJ-> bomber: Hmmm... that might suggest apt itself was affected
[00:14] <jacob___> My disk is not currupt
[00:14] <TJ-> bomber: that, or it doesn't like so many packages in one command
[00:14] <mjayk> jacob___: have you verified the iso you downloaded ?
[00:14] <jacob___> this is typical crap that happens after  a reset, some config settings of my GUI are kaput
[00:14] <TJ-> bomber: maybe we should do it one at a time, in case just one is failing
[00:15] <bomber> Less than 50
[00:15] <bomber> Sure I can do that.
[00:15] <jacob___> crashed 4x in 6 month I am moving to a new distro when i recover my data
[00:15] <ratrace> jacob___: crashed how?
[00:15] <TJ-> bomber: "cat /tmp/lib-list.txt | while read PKG; do sudo apt-get --reinstall install ${LIB}; done"
[00:15] <jacob___> gui freeze->hard reset-> broken system
[00:15] <jacob___> the gui freeze happens a lot
[00:16] <TJ-> bomber: Another typo!!  "cat /tmp/lib-list.txt | while read PKG; do sudo apt-get --reinstall install ${PKG}; done"
[00:16] <mjayk> jacob___: you just need to find out what you are doing wrong to cause it. Could be a bad driver or a bad iso just need to narrow it down.
[00:16]  * TJ- beat ratrace to it that time :)
[00:16] <bomber> It aborts
[00:16] <jacob___> i think bad kernel
[00:16] <ratrace> TJ-: ;)
[00:16] <jacob___> i have acer compu , nothing exotic
[00:17] <TJ-> bomber: Hmmm, that suggests an issue with apt, or else it doesn't like the libc entries
[00:17] <ratrace> jacob___: and you think another LINUX distro is using another kernel?
[00:17] <DosTuMai> Oh.
[00:17] <bomber> It asks for my permission to install them
[00:17] <jacob___> i dont mind compus crashing,.., technology can break, not a big deal, but i DO MIND, not being able to simply reinstall my GUI
[00:17] <DosTuMai> jacob___: It's the Acer. You'll have the same issues with other distros.
[00:17] <jacob___> nothing is straightforward in ubuntu
[00:17] <Guest5371> daftykins it looks like something else is needed to use ssl.
[00:18] <TJ-> bomber: OK, are you able to press 'Y' to give permission?
[00:18] <ratrace> jacob___: the question is why do you need to reinstall? did the data on disk got corrupt?
[00:18] <jacob___> ratrace: no my data is ok,
[00:18] <ratrace> so why reinstall?
[00:18] <TJ-> bomber: I'd rather not pass the '-y' option but we could do to say 'yes' unconditionally
[00:18] <jacob___> i cant get my GUI working well, it boots, but lots of things are missing
[00:18] <bomber> Nope. It immediately aborts, probably because the input is overwritten by the continuation if the code
[00:18] <DosTuMai> jacob___: Does your fan spin?
[00:18] <bomber> Do it
[00:18] <jacob___> i am not an noob ok,
[00:18] <jacob___> i just need a more "sane" distro
[00:19] <mjayk> jacob___: alot of the things you are saying don't make sense, what graphics card do you hace ?
[00:20] <TJ-> bomber: make sure this generates a list of commands, 1 per package:  "cat /tmp/lib-list.txt | while read PKG; do echo sudo apt-get --reinstall install ${PKG}; done"
[00:20] <jacob___> this distribution doesnt make sense,
[00:20] <jacob___> i cant type lsmod, because rescue cd doesnt allow bash window
[00:20] <bomber> Yes
[00:21] <jacob___> ubuntu rescue cd doesnt have bash in GUI mode
[00:21] <mjayk> jacob___: the ubuntu live cd does allow that
[00:21] <ratrace> jacob___: what rescue cd is that?
[00:21] <bomber> It does have
[00:21] <jacob___> yeah? i can post a screenshot
[00:21] <TJ-> bomber: I'm thinking we write those into a 'shell' script file and execute the script, what do you think?
[00:21] <jacob___> no bash icon on the menu
[00:21] <ratrace> uhm....
[00:21] <bomber> Of course
[00:21] <mjayk> jacob___: feel free
[00:21] <bomber> I thought that was what you wanted to do
[00:21] <ratrace> jacob___: no terminal?
[00:21] <bomber> Can't u just
[00:21] <bomber> Bash /tmp/lib-list.txt
[00:21] <bomber> ?
[00:22] <TJ-> bomber: "cat /tmp/lib-list.txt | while read PKG; do echo apt-get -y --reinstall install ${PKG}; done | tee /tmp/reinstall.sh
[00:22] <brx_> what alternate filemanagers are you all using?
[00:22] <bomber> They all got - y now
[00:22] <bomber> Running the script
[00:23] <brx_> the default one for me doesnt save the state (list/icon, sorted by)
[00:23] <bomber> Umm.
[00:23] <TJ-> bomber: yeah... OK, "sudo bash /tmp/reinstall.sh"
[00:23] <bomber> Aha
[00:23] <bomber> It's running
[00:23] <jacob___> piece of crap, no bash, uploading screenshot to my google drive
[00:23] <brx_> rox0rpac.
[00:23] <bomber> Hey ready for some beer money
[00:24] <bomber> Get *
[00:24] <daftykins> jacob___: cut the attitude please, this is a family friendly channel
[00:24] <DosTuMai> jacob___: Ctrl+Alt+T
[00:24] <TJ-> jacob___: the Ubuntu Desktop Live ISO uses bash as its shell; Maybe you're having problems finding the Terminal emulator ?
[00:25] <bomber> TJ- after the reinstall, what's next?
[00:25] <daftykins> jacob___: so by 'bash' you really meant you couldn't find a terminal emulator this whole time.
[00:25] <ratrace> I thought he said he wasn't a noob.... so much about calling the terminal "a bash"....
[00:25] <bomber> Bash = terminal = shell = CLI = cmd = command line
[00:25] <TJ-> bomber: To be sure, do a complete reboot please, then hope the GUI does something friendly. Else we want the log again!
[00:26] <bomber> Yep
[00:26] <TJ-> bash is a shell; there are many shells. A Terminal runs a shell. The Shell provides the CLI
[00:27] <bomber> But this shell is nine
[00:27] <faryshta> hi, anyone here have tried to play windows games using wine? i have a problem with conquerors expansion of AoE
[00:27] <bomber> Mine *
[00:27] <mjayk> faryshta: have you tried playonlinux ?
[00:28]  * DosTuMai steals bomber's .sh .
[00:28] <faryshta> mjayk: no, what is it?
[00:28] <bomber> mjayk (like)
[00:28] <mjayk> faryshta: its a front end to wine that provides scripts for installing different games (sort of configures wine for each game)
[00:28] <crazyhead42> I have Vivid Ververt, but some of the programs I use don't have Vivid distributions. Before I go and change things now, is it okay for me to change the PPAs of those programs to their trusty versions?
[00:28] <mjayk> faryshta: i just checked and it has an installer for conquerors AOE
[00:29] <faryshta> mjayk: cool, do i install it using apt?
[00:29] <daftykins> crazyhead42: it's at your risk since PPAs aren't supported to begin with
[00:29] <mjayk> faryshta: yea apt-get install playonlinux should be fine
[00:29] <bomber> And apps. I got it running safari for me, for my dev purposes
[00:29] <TJ-> crazyhead42: unless the packages you want to install are pretty simple, their dependencies might break your system
[00:29] <bomber> TJ- rebooting, moment of truth
[00:29] <mjayk> faryshta: it will guide you through the install, install any extra packages and configure wine for the game
[00:29] <crazyhead42> ... but that's where the software updater gets it's downloads from, isn't it?
[00:30] <faryshta> mjayk: installed. i executed 'playonlinux age2_x1.exe'
[00:30] <mjayk> faryshta: no, just run playonlunux
[00:30] <mjayk> *playonlinux
[00:31] <mjayk> faryshta: you should then get a gui which you can use to install aoe
[00:31] <faryshta> mjayk: done, i see a window
[00:31] <bomber> TJ- failure.
[00:31] <TJ-> crazyhead42: usually it should be OK since older packages will be the same, or newer, in Vivid compared to Trusty. However, if a Trusty package declares a depends on a specific version of another package, and that package has a later version in Vivid, that will break things
[00:31] <mjayk> faryshta: so at the top you see an install icon
[00:31] <TJ-> bomber: OK. "pastebinit <( sudo journalctl -n 750 )"
[00:32] <faryshta> mjayk: done, clicked it, loading repos i think. it says 76%
[00:32] <crazyhead42> ... Darn. I'm not sure if I want these things to break... Thanks for the input. I'll definitely back up before making any changes to this.
[00:32] <mjayk> faryshta: once that gets to 100% use the search box to search for Age of Empires
[00:32] <mjayk> faryshta: select the one you want, click install and just follow the wizard
[00:32] <DosTuMai> That reminds me: How do you pastebin your system specs?
[00:33] <crazyhead42> One last question, should the URL be relatively the same, just with "trusty" instead of "vivid" in the URL, or am I going to need to trace where each file is supposed to be before I can change the URL?
[00:33] <TJ-> crazyhead42: Yes
[00:33] <daftykins> crazyhead42: is it specifically a PPA you're going to change and not one of the main package mirrors for ubuntu?
[00:33] <faryshta> mjayk: on it, looks like wizard is starting
[00:34] <mjayk> faryshta: sounds good hopefully that should work
[00:34] <bomber> TJ- damn, man. That's a long log
[00:35] <faryshta> mjayk: there are some games shown in pink, what does that mean?
[00:35] <mjayk> faryshta: i see that too, I have no idea
[00:35] <crazyhead42> ... I don't know? I just hit the button for other software while investigating an error and there are a bunch of links, including a few that I had to uncheck to make it stop telling me to check my internet connection
[00:35] <faryshta> mjayk: no prob, thanks, i am installing aoeii and looks like its working.
[00:35] <TJ-> bomber: 750 lines is all I want :)
[00:36] <crazyhead42> I can send you one of said links, if you want
[00:36] <TJ-> bomber: I want to catch the startup this time
[00:36] <mjayk> faryshta: well goodluck if you find out what the pink boxes mean let me know :) bed time for me
[00:36] <ratrace> TJ-: there's -b for (since last reboot)
[00:37] <TJ-> ratrace: On 15.10 at least we're not keeping older logs at all. I'm not sure if it is different on 15.04, since I've skipped that release
[00:37] <TJ-> ratrace: in 15.10 journald pipes to rsylogd and we keep the traditional logs as per 14.04
[00:38] <ratrace> TJ-: iirc journalctl keeps "volatile" logs, so you have to configure it to commit them on disk... the "Storage" keyword in journald unit file
[00:38] <TJ-> ratrace: besides, '-n' is the last n lines isn't it, so it should be what we want
[00:38] <crazyhead42> So things are a little weirder than I first thought, but also a lot more simple. I still don't know the answer to your question though.
[00:38] <TJ-> ratrace: yeah... but as I say I'm not sure if 15.04 does that since I've not looked at it :)
[00:40] <ratrace> TJ-: not by default, Storage=auto, meaning it depends on the existence of /var/log/journal
[00:41] <godbod>  Does anyone know the last stable version of Ubuntu ?
[00:41] <daftykins> godbod: you think it went bad? 14.04 is fine.
[00:41] <daftykins> (LTS)
[00:41] <crazyhead42> https://41.media.tumblr.com/898dcc3e189266ed750b1f501f05e0ec/tumblr_nvo77vLFWs1trmpu5o1_540.png this is what I know.
[00:41] <ratrace> godbod: each one is stable, unless you mean "long term support"
[00:41] <godbod>  Thanks.
[00:42] <bomber> I stopped it in the middle because it was taking more than 5 minutes... I'm running it again.
[00:43] <bomber> I mean... It's just 750 lines, why is it taking is long?
[00:43] <TJ-> bomber: That's weird, it should be near instance. ratrace any ideas?
[00:43] <ratrace> maybe pastebinit crapped out.. try outputting in a file first
[00:46] <bomber> The, right?
[00:46] <bomber> Tee*
[00:46] <ratrace> bomber: journalctl -n 750 > somefile.txt
[00:47] <bomber> Duck
[00:47] <bomber> My bad.
[00:47] <bomber> Omg
[00:47] <bomber> The rage is real
[00:47] <bomber> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12661884
[00:47] <bomber> Omg... I reset, I haven't sudoed yet.
[00:48] <bomber> So the Command was waiting for password.... O. G
[00:48] <bomber> Omg..
[00:48]  * TJ- throws a custard pie at bomber
[00:49] <TJ-> bomber: not good - same segfaults after all those libraries were replaced
[00:49] <bomber> 😞
[00:50] <TJ-> bomber: I wonder if it is a bad config. Let's try moving it out the way temporarily. "mv ${HOME}/.config ${HOME}/.config.bak"  then "sudo systemctl restart sddm"
[00:52] <Bashing-om> TJ-: bomber :: ~/.dmrc ?
[00:52] <eelstrebor> is there a way to modify a openvpn config file that was created by networkmanager so that i can add persist-tun and persist-key?
[00:53] <TJ-> Bashing-om: possibly that too, doing one at a time now see if we can figure out which (if any) fixes it. Although getting segfaults shouldn't come from a config file error
[00:53] <bomber> TJ- login resets
[00:53] <eelstrebor> or am i gonna have to run my openvpn client from the cli using a standard config file?
[00:53] <bomber> Bashing-om,  it exists
[00:54] <TJ-> bomber: "mv .dmrc .dmrc.bak" and try again
[00:54] <bomber> TJ- login resets
[00:54] <jlander> hi
[00:54] <jlander> can you help me?
[00:55] <ratrace> !ask | jlander
[00:55] <TJ-> bomber: we could move everything in the user home out the way and I think it'll still fail. There's some fundamental corruption in the system somewhere.
[00:55] <bomber> 😱
[00:55] <TJ-> bomber: we've replaced almost every core library that the GUI relies on
[00:55] <bomber> I'd like to mention again
[00:55] <bomber> It works when connected to an external screen
[00:55] <Bashing-om> jlander: Post your question and see if we can . A good possibility .
[00:56] <TJ-> bomber: Really!? ONLY an external screen, or with 2 screens ?
[00:56] <bomber> 1 external screen
[00:56] <TJ-> bomber: "pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[00:56] <jlander> I have a problem reading a pendrive with TV
[00:56] <bomber> No xorg.conf
[00:57] <TJ-> bomber: is the sddm greeter displaying right now?
[00:57] <jacob___> jesus, now my GUI of ubuntu install usb just frooze,..,
[00:57] <bomber> And it's the laptop screen running with an external screen connected through vga that works
[00:57] <bomber> Uh... Yes
[00:57] <bomber> Then login screen? Yes
[00:57] <TJ-> bomber: does this report the outputs?  "DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr -q"
[00:57] <jlander> I can read the pendrive correctly in linux
[00:57] <daftykins> jacob___: again, either your flash drive is bad... or you have a RAM / HDD issue, in which case no other distro is going to help you.
[00:57] <jlander> the file system is XFS
[00:58] <bomber> Aha
[00:58] <daftykins> jlander: a smart TV is not going to read XFS :)
[00:58] <bomber> Like I said
[00:58] <bomber> Daftykins and Bashing-om
[00:58] <jacob___> daftykins: this is a CD-ROM
[00:58] <daftykins> bomber: us what?
[00:58] <jlander> No, daftykins
[00:58] <jacob___> dude, you dont listen to well do you daftykins
[00:58] <bomber> I got an invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1
[00:58] <bomber> Can't open display
[00:58] <ratrace> jacob___: sounds like you have a hardware issue there
[00:58] <bomber> It's the freaking xauthority file again
[00:59] <daftykins> jacob___: you never mentioned what form it was in, 'livecd' doesn't dictate optical media only to us :) now please drop the attitude.
[00:59] <TJ-> bomber: ahhh! "sudo DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr -q"
[00:59] <jacob___> I am trying another distro install cd, see if my gui still freezes
[00:59] <jacob___> yeah, hardware issue as in bad ubuntu drivers, kernel whatever
[00:59] <bomber> SAME!
[00:59] <bomber> It's definitely some config / ownership screw up
[00:59] <TJ-> bomber: grrrr! i thought sddm ran as root; maybe it runs as sddm
[01:00] <DosTuMai> jacob___: If you can't find the Terminal, try Ctrl+Alt+T
[01:00] <bomber> TJ- wait, what?
[01:00] <bomber> That made no sense to me
[01:00] <jlander> I need some program like "scandisk" that works on xfs filesystem
[01:00] <ratrace> jacob___: that is possible, yes. can you alt-f2 or is it ctrl-alt-f2 to another tty and tail dmesg?
[01:00] <TJ-> bomber: I'm not sure how this needs to be done to work but we need to use the 'sddm' user: "sudo su sddm DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr -q"
[01:01] <bomber> Invalid option q
[01:01] <jacob___> DosTuMai: Ctrl+Alt+T doesnt work on the install cd, because....no bash terminal
[01:01] <ratrace> jacob___: did you ever pastebin that screeshot?
[01:01] <jacob___> i have no freakin idea why they didnt put it in the menu bar in ubuntu
[01:01] <daftykins> as we've been over, BASH is a shell - not a terminal
[01:01] <TJ-> bomber: "sudo su -c 'DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr -q' sddm  "
[01:01] <daftykins> and yes there is gnome-terminal on the live session :)
[01:02] <jacob___> yeah, my cpu frooze he i will upload now
[01:02] <ratrace> jacob___: just click the whirly icon at the top and type term
[01:02] <bomber> Successful!
[01:02] <TJ-> jacob___: if the PC is 'freezing' so much there's something very wrong with the PC right now
[01:02] <TJ-> bomber: YAY! can you pastebin?
[01:02] <jlander> How can I check files in xfs file system pendrive?
[01:02] <ratrace> jlander: plug it into your computer
[01:02] <jacob___> ratrace,, i am not a noob ok, i clicked that and typedin bash, or term, but NOTHING
[01:02] <bomber> Pastebin what? It gave an empty response
[01:03] <daftykins> jlander: why are you using xfs to begin with?
[01:03] <ratrace> jacob___: which version of Ubuntu and which installation media is that?
[01:03] <TJ-> bomber: really? no outputs reported but there's a greeter up on the LCD?
[01:03] <jlander> My tv records programs in this filesystem
[01:03] <bomber> Uh
[01:03] <bomber> Yeah
[01:03] <bomber> It didn't refresh
[01:03] <bomber> It just executed
[01:03] <daftykins> !memtest | jacob___
[01:03] <jacob___> hey!! i have xterm on my install, lol
[01:04] <daftykins> yeah and gnome-terminal most likely
[01:04] <jacob___> thnak god!
[01:04] <jlander> my tv uses xfs filsystem to format HD drives to record
[01:04] <TJ-> bomber: 'xrandr' is the interface to the X11 display; '-q' queries the available outputs and modes
[01:04] <jlander> do you understand me?
[01:04] <bomber> So noon available
[01:04] <jacob___> ok, i am in bash)))) let me mount that stupid disk
[01:04] <bomber> Non*
[01:04] <TJ-> bomber: Can you "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[01:04] <ratrace> jlander: did you plug the USB stick into your computer running Ubuntu?
[01:05] <jlander> yes, I did
[01:05] <ratrace> did it open a file manager?
[01:05] <jlander> yes
[01:05] <ratrace> jlander: so what's the problem?
[01:05] <bomber> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12662856
[01:05] <jlander> The problem is... when I try to read the pendrive on tv, tv resets
[01:06] <ratrace> jlander: does that tv run ubuntu?
[01:06] <jlander> yes
[01:07] <daftykins> wat.
[01:07] <ratrace> jlander: xfs is a well supported filesystem under Ubuntu so that alone is probably not the cause of any crash
[01:07] <jlander> Can I "scandisk" the pendrive?
[01:07] <ratrace> actually, most likely not the cause...
[01:07] <daftykins> if you have xfsprogs installed, fsck.xfs might exist?
[01:07] <TJ-> bomber: "mv ${HOME}/.kde ${HOME}/kde.bak" ... then try log-in again
[01:08] <jacob___> i am stressed, i am taking a break
[01:08] <jlander> tell me fsck command
[01:08] <daftykins> i just did
[01:08] <bomber> Uh
[01:08] <jlander> ok
[01:08] <bomber> It's a folder
[01:08] <TJ-> bomber: Yes
[01:09] <bomber> Huh
[01:09] <bomber> Kk, just a sec
[01:10] <bomber> No systemctl restart?
[01:10] <jlander> i can try xfs_repair
[01:10] <jlander> can you help me with console?
[01:10] <bomber> Login restarts
[01:11] <TJ-> bomber: so, we've moved everything out the way that could affect it configuration-wise. I'm thinking it'll save time and frustration to go with a fresh install now
[01:12] <bomber> I'll look up the procedures to back up my system...
[01:12] <daftykins> and if TJ- can't do it, you really are knackered :)
[01:12] <TJ-> bomber: I cannot think of anything that would explain the external monitor allowing it to work, if there isn't an xorg.conf
[01:12] <bomber> I mean
[01:12] <bomber> This is kubuntu
[01:12] <bomber> It works differently, doesn't it?
[01:12] <ratrace> the plot unthickens....
[01:13] <TJ-> bomber: not really; different programs but the underlying Xorg is the same across all DM/DEs
[01:14] <TJ-> bomber: I use kubuntu; I'm comparing my configs to yours as we go along and cannot see anything to explain your issue
[01:15] <daftykins> hmm there wouldn't be anything overriding in /xorg.conf.d/ would there? i wouldn't think so.
[01:15] <TJ-> bomber: "sudo cat /var/lib/sddm/state.conf" please
[01:15] <TJ-> daftykins: according to the log, no, it's all auto-configured
[01:15] <daftykins> ok
[01:16] <bomber> Name of last user - .  User=nlev
[01:16] <bomber> Name of last session -  session= plasma.desktop
[01:16] <TJ-> bomber: "pastebinit <( sudo find /var/lib/sddm -ls )" please
[01:17] <bomber> K
[01:17] <bomber> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12663611
[01:18] <bomber> Our Lord and savior Ubuntu has joined.
[01:18] <bomber> 😊
[01:18] <TJ-> bomber, that pastebin wasn't the command I was expecting :)
[01:18] <bomber> Huh
[01:18] <bomber> Oj
[01:18] <bomber> Sorry
[01:19] <faryshta> mjayk: hi, still here'
[01:19] <bomber> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12663740
[01:19] <faryshta> ?
[01:19] <bomber> The cache
[01:22] <godbod>  /list
[01:22] <TJ-> bomber: the only 2 differences that stand out are, on mine (15.10 here remember) state.conf is owned by root:root, and I have no .kde/ directory
[01:23] <bomber> Then let's do it
[01:23] <bomber> Let's start with root
[01:24] <TJ-> bomber: That isn't going to cause segfaults
[01:24] <bomber> Oh
[01:24] <marc__> quit
[01:25] <TJ-> bomber: oOOO! show me "pastebinit <( ls -latr ${HOME}/.local/share )"
[01:25] <faryshta> anyone here know how to use playonlinux to install a game from an iso file?
[01:26] <bazhang> #winehq for that faryshta
[01:26] <bomber> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12664208
[01:27] <TJ-> bomber did this problem start on Sept 29th?
[01:27] <faryshta> bazhang: already asked there, no answers in 3 hours
[01:27] <faryshta> bazhang: *
[01:27] <bazhang> faryshta, thats the channel for support, patience
[01:27] <TJ-> bomber: "pastebinit <( ls -latr ${HOME}/.local/share/kscreen/ )"
[01:28] <elijah__> gio;'
[01:28] <faryshta> bazhang: plus you can't install this game using just wine, you need playonlinux
[01:28] <elijah__> hello
[01:29] <bazhang> faryshta, wait for the winehq people
[01:29] <elijah__> anybody know how to get a good recording system on raspberry pi
[01:29] <bomber> JT- no, it begun a long time ago
[01:29] <daftykins> elijah__: #ubuntu-arm might be more relevant for you
[01:29] <bazhang> what os on there elijah__
[01:30] <TJ-> bomber: "pastebinit <( ls -latr ${HOME}/.local/share/kscreen/ )"
[01:30] <elijah__> ubuntu
[01:31] <bazhang> #ubuntu-arm elijah__
[01:31] <bomber> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12664525
[01:32] <TJ-> bomber: "rm ${HOME}/.local/share/kscreen/*" then try log-in again
[01:33] <bomber> TJ- What's your PayPal account?
[01:33] <TJ-> bomber: huh?
[01:33] <bomber> TJ- What's your PayPal account?
[01:33] <bomber> Cause I owe you some beer
[01:34] <TJ-> bomber: is that your way of saying we fixed it?
[01:34] <bomber> Yes
[01:34] <TJ-> bomber: YAY! OK, we need to put all those .bak 's back to not.baks :D
[01:34] <TJ-> bomber: log-out the GUI, do it from the TTY
[01:34] <bomber> Yes please
[01:34] <TJ-> Then we log-in test again
[01:34] <bomber> I'm there
[01:34] <bomber> Oh
[01:34] <bomber> One sec
[01:35] <TJ-> bomber: "mv ${HOME}/.config.bak ${HOME}/.config"
[01:35] <bomber> Logged out
[01:35] <bomber> I had a ton of crashing errors on the way it
[01:35] <bomber> Out
[01:35] <Guest73062> The Browser app with the blue globe icon crashes the system.
[01:35] <TJ-> bomber: "mv ${HOME}/.dmrc.bak ${HOME}/.dmrc"
[01:35] <bomber> Ummm
[01:36] <TJ-> bomber: we'll check those once all the app settings are back
[01:36] <bomber> There is no. Config. Bak
[01:36] <TJ-> bomber: no caps; all lower case. We backed those up earlier
[01:37] <arooni>  about once a day my ubuntu 14.04 locks up when i open too many chrome tabs and load jumps to 15 or 20... (i have a dual core 2.5 ghz intel i5)... is there anyway to learn what specifically is contributing to high load?
[01:38] <bomber> I moved the dmrc
[01:38] <bomber> But the config has remained the same
[01:39] <TJ-> bomber: and lastly "mv ${HOME}/.kde.bak ${HOME}/.kde" ... if the session we just did created those directories we may need to 'rm' the newly created directories. Maybe you missed my 'mv .config .config.bak' - never mind, as long as we put back whatever you moved.
[01:39] <daftykins> arooni: can you share a pastebin of "free -m" ?
[01:39] <TJ-> bomber: "find ${HOME} -maxdepth 1 -name '*.bak' " might help
[01:39] <bomber> Uh..
[01:40] <Guest73062> uname -a
[01:40] <arooni> daftykins, its running ok right now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12665184/
[01:40] <bomber> I just moved the backups into the newly created folders
[01:40] <clrae> how to use dd to create a bootable usb , i ve downloaded ubuntu iso
[01:40] <bomber> But login seems to work now
[01:41] <daftykins> arooni: ah as i suspected, you don't have any swap... so when you fill your physical RAM, the system will lock.
[01:41] <arooni> daftykins, !!!  wow i thought i had swap
[01:41] <daftykins> arooni: can you share a "sudo parted -l" perhaps?
[01:42] <Jazzy_J> clrae, try unetbootin
[01:42] <Guest73062> daftykins: what do you think about freeing drone
[01:42] <TJ-> bomber: as long as you moved the *contents* of the backup directories into the new diretories, rather than making the backup directories sub-dirs of the newly created directories.
[01:42] <clrae> Jazzy_J : i thought it has a bug
[01:42] <bomber> Yes, I did the first correct one
[01:42] <arooni> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12665337/
[01:42] <bomber> I'm going to restart now
[01:43] <arooni> daftykins, partition 3 or 5 is supposed to be swap
[01:43] <jlander> hi
[01:43] <Guest73062> none are more hoplessly enslaved than those who do not know they are slaves
[01:43] <TJ-> bomber: *fingers crossed
[01:44] <Jazzy_J> clrae, it may, but I use it frequently.
[01:44] <bomber> So what is potentially the main fix we did? Mode the config?
[01:44] <arooni> daftykins, does one of those look like swap?
[01:44] <jlander> I tried to copy the files to another hard drive, and now it does not work the disc
[01:44] <bomber> Of sddm
[01:44] <clrae> Jazzy_J: i tested it it only work with windows am in linux now is there any alternative
[01:44] <bomber> (like I said before, PayPal or something, please)
[01:45] <bomber> (cause it works)
[01:46] <bomber> Hmm, that reset my chrome settings. No sweat
[01:46] <TJ-> bomber: the kscreen settings files were wrong in some way, and too many of them retained too
[01:46] <TJ-> bomber: we deleted them all and let it reconfigure afresh
[01:46] <Jazzy_J> ubuntu, apt-get install unetbootin
[01:47] <bomber> K screen, gotcha
[01:47] <Jazzy_J> I use it with a variety of linux distros.
[01:47] <Jazzy_J> It's usually in the default repositories.
[01:48] <TJ-> bomber: hopefully there aren't any side-effects, but keep a close eye on the log files.
[01:48] <TJ-> bomber: ${HOME}/.xsession-errors for the user session itself
[01:49] <bomber> K. Chrome has some weirdness
[01:49] <bomber> But nothing I can't deal with
[01:49] <daftykins> arooni left :(
[01:50] <RNeville> Hello; I get this message sometime using ebay, and tonight try to send a pgp revocation key to hps.pool.sks-keyservers.net: This Connection is Untrusted
[01:52] <bomber> K. Thank you so much for your time and effort TJ!!!!!
[01:52] <TJ-> bomber: you're welcome; glad we figured it out
[01:52] <Guest73062> Do we have a good one?
[01:52] <daftykins> Guest73062: a good what?
[01:55] <Guest73062> Some mirror was giving out broadcom drivers other than bcmwl (6.30.223.141+bdcom-0ubuntu2) .
[01:55] <yottameter> Anyone here?
[01:55] <daftykins> well sure, there are multiple broadcom drivers
[01:55] <daftykins> yottameter: yes, ask a question if you have one
[01:56] <Guest73062> daftykins: a good one
[01:56] <Guest73062> daftykins: they keep telling me have 'a good one'
[01:57] <yottameter> I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8 on separate hard drives. I was wondering if I should disconnect the hard drive with windows before installing ubuntu so that I don't mess up the bootloader.
[01:57] <daftykins> Guest73062: what is your broadcom device? have you read the broadcom page?
[01:57] <daftykins> !broadcom
[01:58] <wileee> yottameter, There is a manual install option with grub placement, either will work.
[01:58] <yottameter> Ok thanks
[01:58] <daftykins> yottameter: be sure you install both in EFI mode if 8 is installed as EFI
[01:59] <wileee> yottameter, Ask any questions if needed, manual option is called something else, in a multiple choice gui.
[01:59] <yottameter> Is that an option during the installation of ubuntu?
[01:59] <daftykins> !efi | yottameter
[01:59] <daftykins> read there, it must be booted in the correct mode.
[01:59] <wileee> heh and that to
[01:59] <Guest73062> try not to kill anybody
[01:59] <yottameter> Ah ok
[02:01] <Guest73062> so infinity kicked the bucket?
[02:01] <bazhang> !ot | Guest73062
[02:01] <jacob___> back
[02:01] <bazhang> take the chit chat elsewhere Guest73062
[02:02] <jacob___> hello
[02:02] <jacob___> ok,.., the unity-is-broken problem
[02:02] <Guest73062> bazhang: is that really off topic , ubuntu is more beer community related and not used for killing? Is that what this is? Trade bears not lives.
[02:03] <jacob___> hello?
[02:03] <daftykins> Guest73062: cut the stupidity please.
[02:03] <jacob___> what is this offtopic rant?
[02:03] <daftykins> jacob___: i take it it's not worth me speaking to you?
[02:03] <daftykins> despite knowing what to do
[02:04] <jacob___> i got the crap mounted finally,
[02:04] <jacob___> i am still in rescue cd linux
[02:04] <Guest73062> jacob___: Just some thoughts about where this is going if I finish the construct I have in mind.
[02:05] <jacob___> i will bind /dev and /proc
[02:05] <jacob___> and chroot
[02:05] <daftykins> no point
[02:05] <RNeville> I'm having problems using https- sometime I get this message: "This Connection is Untrusted"
[02:05] <daftykins> jacob___: just check your /mountpoint/home/username/ is all id 1000:1000 for ownership
[02:06] <jacob___> daftykins: everything is root
[02:06] <jacob___> no ownership nonsense
[02:07] <daftykins> be better to see that first hand
[02:08] <RNeville> Trying to revoke a pgp key and getting this "Connection is Untrusted" when I try to post my revocation key to key server: hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net
[02:08] <RNeville> Using Ubuntu 14.04
[02:09] <RNeville> and Firefox 41.0
[02:09] <TJ-> RNeville: what is the entire command you're using?
[02:10] <TJ-> RNeville: or, do you mean you're using the browser?
[02:10] <RNeville> I'm web page : https://sks-keyservers.net/i/ to unload my pgp revocation key, when I get "Connection is Untrusted"
[02:10] <TJ-> RNeville: you need to look at the X509 certificate being presented and decide if you want to trust it
[02:10] <RNeville> I'm using web page : https://sks-keyservers.net/i/ to unload my pgp revocation key, when I get "Connection is Untrusted"
[02:11] <TJ-> RNeville: the certificate is self-signed by the site, rather than using a certificate authority
[02:12] <RNeville> Okay, I basicly understand this, but I was just surprised that it was self signed
[02:12] <daftykins> something to take up with the site owners
[02:12] <RNeville> Just surprised that a site operating a pgp key server would be self signed
[02:13] <TJ-> RNeville: the CN looks to be one of the mirrors; so it is difficult to deduce whether to trust it, I'd err on the side of caution and not trust it, find a different keyserver
[02:13] <RNeville> I understand that it really doesn't matter is someone intercepts my pgp revocation key anyway, since I do what to revoke it
[02:13] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[02:14] <TJ-> RNeville: OK... you could use the Ubuntu keyserver
[02:14] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[02:14] <ubuntu-mate> XD
[02:14] <RNeville> thx TJ
[02:15] <TJ-> RNeville: "keyserver.ubuntu.com" in case you don't know it
[02:16] <RNeville> Found this going a Google search , but it isn't https , but primary doman looks correct, though ?http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/
[02:17] <Guest30883> bah
[02:17] <Guest30883> was trying to get started with this irssi
[02:17] <RNeville> Found this using a Google search , but it isn't https , but primary domain looks correct, though ?http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/
[02:18] <Guest30883> anyone got a link for a real good cheatsheet irssi?
[02:19] <TJ-> RNeville: something like this I think:  "gpg --gen-revoke ABCD1234 | gpg --import - && gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com ABCD1234"
[02:20] <arooni> hey folks... ubuntu 14.04 here trying to get my swap partition set up correctly... free -m verifies i have 0mb for swap.  ... and i'm sure i set aside a partition for swap.  in /etc/fstab (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12667739/) i notice it says "# swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation"  and on sudo fdisk -l i see "/dev/sda6       957032448   976771071     9869312   82  Linux swap / Solaris"  ... so can i simply uncomment the line
[02:20] <arooni>  in my fstab and comment the libcrypt line ?
[02:20] <RNeville> thx , again, TJ
[02:20] <TJ-> RNeville: gpg uses the hkps protocol by default I think, or you could force it with "--keyserver hkps://keyserver.ubuntu.com"
[02:20] <arooni> hey folks... ubuntu 14.04 here trying to get my swap partition set up correctly... free -m verifies i have 0mb for swap.  ... and i'm sure i set aside a partition for swap.  in /etc/fstab (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12667739/) i notice it says "# swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation"  and on sudo fdisk -l i see "/dev/sda6       957032448   976771071     9869312   82  Linux swap / Solaris"  ... so can i simply uncomment the line
[02:20] <arooni>  in my fstab and comment the libcrypt line ?
[02:20] <arooni> sorry didnt mean to repeat that! :(
[02:21] <Bashing-om> Guest30883: I know of no cheatsheet, but there is the irssi support channel ' /join #irssi '.
[02:21] <TJ-> arooni: there should be a line in "/etc/crypttab" related to swap too
[02:21] <RNeville> TJ  Okay
[02:21] <arooni> TJ-, last line says : /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0 ... so i should leave that?
[02:22] <TJ-> RNeville: *but* make sure (with a key query first) that Ubuntu supports hkps - a few years ago I recall there were issues with that... or maybe it was just MITs key-servers; I forget now!
[02:23] <TJ-> arooni: Yes, that is trying to mount the encrypted device... so we need to look at crypttab to see if the device is being used correctly
[02:23] <arooni> TJ-, i think thats a leftover for when i had a previous installation of ubuntu 14.10 on this laptop (i put a ssd in and havent wiped the other drive yet)
[02:23] <arooni> i had /home partition encryption
[02:24] <arooni> TJ-, heres output of sudo fdisk -l
[02:24] <arooni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12668126/
[02:24] <TJ-> arooni: that is entirely separate from encrypted swap though; show me "/etc/crypttab"
[02:24] <arooni> TJ-, cryptswap1 UUID=c1aea0ba-3370-465c-a431-d903816e8732 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256
[02:25] <TJ-> arooni: and now "pastebinit <( sudo blkid )"
[02:25] <arooni> TJ-, interestingly enough that command seems to take forever... and i have a ssd. i dont know if thats a bad sign
[02:26] <TJ-> arooni: it can take a few seconds, shouldn't take much more though.
[02:26] <arooni> TJ-, also ; when i run sudo gparted about 5-10 minutes ago; it still shows "Scanning all devices" .. maybe because its running into the encrypted stuff on sdb (where i had previously installed ubuntu 14.10)
[02:26] <TJ-> arooni: I doubt that; did you copy file-system from 1 disk to another?
[02:27] <arooni> TJ-, no, fresh install
[02:27] <TJ-> arooni: OK, then I suggest you check /var/log/kern.log for signs of problems with one of the storage devices
[02:28] <TJ-> arooni: if it is hanging the system for a while that suggests I/O error timeouts/retries
[02:28] <arooni> TJ-, i dont see anything about storage stuff;  mjust that cpu tspeed got throttled due to heat
[02:29] <arooni> TJ-, should i reboot to recovery mode and run fsck?
[02:29] <TJ-> arooni: No, if there were problems you'd see them reported in kern.log
[02:30] <TJ-> arooni: it could be accessing the MMC device is slowing things down
[02:30] <TJ-> arooni: did that last command return to you or is it still AWOL?
[02:30] <arooni> awol
[02:30] <TJ-> arooni: Ctrl+C to kill it
[02:30] <arooni> i took out the memory card and it complete  s immediately
[02:30] <TJ-> arooni: Hmmm, that tells you something then
[02:31] <arooni> TJ-, wouldnt have thought of that
[02:31] <arooni> TJ-, heres the output you wanted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12668600/
[02:31] <TJ-> arooni: MMC access is often very slow on PCs
[02:32] <arooni> TJ-, so id like to let sda6 be swap... but i dont wanna mess anything up. can i just uncomment the line that s currently commented in /etc/fstab and allow it to be swap?
[02:32] <arooni> TJ-, cuz right now i have no swap and my machine hangs when i hit the wall of 8gb of ram
[02:32] <arooni> TJ-, apparently gparted indicates that sda6 file system is unknown... so i think i can just wipe it and reformat as swap??
[02:33] <TJ-> arooni: the reason there's currently no swap is this: fstab wants to mount a device-mapper device /dev/mapper/cryptswap1. That should be created by cryptdisks_start via the entry in /etc/crypttab, using the underlying device with UUID=c1aea0ba-3370-465c-a431-d903816e8732, but as blkid just showed, there is no such device, so /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is never created
[02:33] <arooni> TJ-, i reformatted sda6 as linux-swap
[02:33] <arooni> TJ-, now sda6 is showing as swap
[02:33] <arooni> via sudo blkid
[02:34] <arooni> so now i assume its safe to let /etc/fstab know about it and reboot
[02:34] <TJ-> arooni: so, we just need to alter /etc/crypttab to tell it to use a device path not a UUID. Which partition do you want to use for swap?
[02:34] <arooni> see i dont get why i need to use /etc/crypttab or anything... i dont have any encryption i know of
[02:34] <arooni> at least on this install of ubuntu
[02:34] <RNeville> Hello everyone; I'm a newbie with Linux, running Ubuntu 14.04 and the file manager isn't showing all my Hardrives, but bios do
[02:34] <TJ-> arooni: what you should do is edit /etc/crypttab, remove the "UUID=xxxxxxx" and replace it with "/dev/sda6"
[02:35] <TJ-> arooni: Ubuntu encrypts swap so that the memory pages swapped into it cannot be easily read by an attacker
[02:36] <arooni> a ha... since when did ubuntu do that?
[02:37] <arooni> TJ-, so /etc/crypttab should then look like this : "cryptswap1 /dev/sda6 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256"
[02:37] <wafflejock> RNeville: in a terminal you can type lsblk, or sudo fdisk -l, and should see some info about your disks
[02:37] <TJ-> arooni: the idea began in 2007 ... see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-karmic-encrypted-swap-as-an-option
[02:37] <TJ-> arooni: yes, that is perfect
[02:37] <RNeville> wafflejock, thx
[02:37] <arooni> TJ-, i had no idea; i never really looked at /etc/fstab much
[02:38] <arooni> TJ-, so now it should be safe to restart and i shouldnt need to run fsck or e2fsck ?
[02:38] <wafflejock> RNeville: np can use gparted if you want a visual type thing like disk manager in Windows for formatting drives or whatever, but should be able to see the block devices with lsblk, and some partition info with fdisk -l
[02:38] <TJ-> arooni: next time the PC boots it'll make /dev/sda6 an encrypted block device using a key from /dev/urandom, createa device-mapper node /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 ... and fstab will cause the swap to be created on /dev/mapper/cryptswap1
[02:38] <TJ-> arooni: correct
[02:39] <wafflejock> RNeville: if you see some drive with one of those tools and just want to mount it can use the mount command but usually the GUI file explorer will let you click the drive on the left to automatically mount it if everything is working okay
[02:39] <arooni> TJ-, well thanks for teaching me how the sausage is made... with linux theres no limit to the stuff you learn about how your system works
[02:39] <TJ-> arooni: So true :)
[02:39] <arooni> TJ-, and thanks for walking me through that process; i was a bit concerned when i saw those errors etc...
[02:39] <TJ-> arooni: I've seen a few users recently dealing with it
[02:40] <arooni> TJ-, ok gonna boot back and hopefully no more system hangs when the ram starts thrashing... it will make my life much easier
[02:41] <TJ-> arooni: which Ubuntu release is it? I think there's a bug in the installer
[02:41] <arooni> TJ-, ubuntu 14.04 lts
[02:41] <TJ-> arooni: it should never use a UUID in crypttab since the block device has no header/metadata to store it
[02:41] <arooni> didnt know that
[02:41] <TJ-> arooni: Right, I thought so. I'll report it and get it fixed
[02:41] <arooni> TJ-, yeah so this pain was due to an installer bug... i remember setting aside 8gb of swap
[02:41] <arooni> and being surprised when i didnt have any later
[02:42] <arooni> just found out today i didnt have the swap i thought i had, and i had this install for a few weeks now haha
[02:42] <arooni> ok brb;  thanks again TJ-
[02:42] <TJ-> arooni: with plenty of RAM it often isn't really needed, although it helps to prevent the system hitting the OOM
[02:43] <faryshta> anyone here know how to use playonlinux to install a game from an iso file?
[02:44] <arooni> TJ-, now i'm back with 9G of swap!  thanks for your help
[02:45] <arooni> system should run a lot smoother now at high resource usage
[02:45] <TJ-> arooni: bug 953875
[02:46] <TJ-> arooni: That Description shows they have introduced an 'offset=1024' so the UUID *can* be stored in sda6 and therefore used in crypttab
[02:47] <TJ-> arooni: so they avoid using the first 1K so the swap metadata including the UUID are retained
[02:48] <arooni> gotcha;  well i hope the fix the installer so other folks dont run into the same problem as me
[02:50] <Guest26284> Hibernate doesnt seem to work.
[03:01] <wolftune> I thought `source ~/.bashrc` in .profile would get my path available to GUI programs I don't start from CLI… but it seems to only work if I put path stuff directly in .profile … what the heck?
[03:07] <daftykins> arooni: ah glad you came back and sorted it :)
[03:07] <arooni> daftykins, thanks to you for pointing out the issue with swap
[03:07] <daftykins> np :)
[03:07] <TJ-> wolftune: if you're source-ing then it should use it
[03:08] <wolftune> TJ-: well, it doesn't. The GUI program (Atom) will see things if I put path directly in .profile but *not* see them if I move path to .bashrc and have a source statement in .profile (unless I run Atom from CLI)
[03:09] <wolftune> I can't figure out how to troubleshoot this
[03:11] <wolftune> testing further, logging out now :P
[03:15] <TJ-> wolftune: do you log-out/log-in from the GUI to check that?
[03:15] <TJ-> wolftune: .profile is only read at log-in for the session.
[03:19] <wolftune> TJ-: yes, I did log in and log out, trying again…
[03:34] <faryshta> anyone here know how to use playonlinux to install a game from an iso file?
[03:36] <daftykins> what game?
[03:37] <oats_> I installed Ubuntu a while ago but my power's been down to below 2 hours for a 100% charge
[03:38] <oats_> (It should be 4-5)
[03:38] <oats_> I have tlp installed but am not sure how to use it to save my power
[03:38] <oats_> How might I fix my problem?
[03:45] <phelix> I had windows installed first. And then ran the ubuntu install so it installed alongside windows. Now my ubuntu partition is out of space. What is the best way to increase the ubutnu partition without having to reinstall ubuntu or messing up windows?
[03:46] <[n0mad]> phelix, do you have space in windows?
[03:46] <phelix> yes
[03:47] <Bashing-om> phelix: "out of space"; where ? maybe an easy fix . What returns from terminal command ' df -h ' ?
[03:47] <phelix> http://pastebin.com/iufakABk
[03:49] <Bashing-om> phelix: Try ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' to remove old kernels, at 100% capacity there may be no operating head room and other means will be employed .
[03:50] <phelix> is the partition setup to auto grow? So as it needs more space will it just take it from the windows partition and vice versa?
[03:50] <[n0mad]> no
[03:50] <phelix> or does it by default just create a 25gig partition when it installs?
[03:51] <[n0mad]> during the setup it should have allowed you to resize
[03:51] <phelix> this is a super fresh install of ubuntu.. not sure there would be any old kernels
[03:51] <phelix> just installed it 3 days ago
[03:52] <phelix> Yea, I think that i just went with the defaults... Is there any way to fix this or do i have to completely reinstall ubuntu again? That would really suck if I have to go that route
[03:53] <[n0mad]> well, what Bashing-om was calling out is that you probably want to create some space on that partition. 4 meg free is basically nothing
[03:54] <[n0mad]> i'd kinda wonder too how you filled up 24GB in 3 days
[03:54] <Bashing-om> 25 gigs is plenty big for a standard nstall . And yeah as on;y 3 days old .. old kernels should not be an issue . ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' to see what is taking up the disk space .
[03:54] <phelix> Its from installing Android SDK and Java applications
[03:54] <phelix> its all in /opt from the Android SDK installs.
[03:56] <raleigh_> hi, anyone use guake?
[03:56] <raleigh_> i'm trying to use alt+num to go to a specific tab
[03:56] <raleigh_> like in https://github.com/Guake/guake/issues/420 but i can't figure out how to set it up
[03:57] <[n0mad]> well, he's a pretty smart guy, i'd run through it with him. as far as resizing the windows partition, i read and followed what i read here to a tee and it worked fine for me. it will allow you to create an extra partition. there may be other things you'd want to do depending on your usage. http://askubuntu.com/questions/550999/how-to-resize-ubuntu-windows-partitions
[03:58] <Bashing-om> phelix: Well. A couple of options. instead of growing the / partition, can you scare up room to make another partition and make it as /opt and symlink to the new /opt ?
[03:58] <phelix> hmm, yes maybe that would be the best route to go
[03:58] <jereme> hi?
[03:58] <m_wynn> hi
[03:59] <jereme> so uh
[03:59] <jereme> what's up in here
[03:59] <Bashing-om> phelix: With a separate /opt you can watch it and not have the danger of killing the OS with a full partition .
[04:07] <faryshta> anyone here know how to use playonlinux to install a game from an iso file?
[04:10] <smacktalk> how do I see what dev my usb drive is?
[04:11] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: 'sudo fdosk -lu ' .
[04:11] <Bashing-om> sudo fdisk -lu **
[04:12] <jacob___> hi
[04:12] <jacob___> I changed root into a bricked install, it seems my network is not working from that chroot,... how do i re-initialize the network
[04:13] <smacktalk> how do I mount the usb drive?
[04:13] <jacob___> smacktalk:  type "lsblk" and then look for the usb drive device
[04:15] <smacktalk> ok unetbootin thinks the usb drive is sdc2 but it's giving me an error stating that i first need to mount the drive
[04:15] <Bashing-om> jacob___: Depends, did you set up the CHange root with binds ? Maybe something like ' sudo mount --bind /run /mnt/run '  ?
[04:16] <jacob___> yes of course with binds
[04:16] <jacob___> this is the same behavior when i boot from the disk in question
[04:16] <jacob___> so it is broken the same way
[04:16] <smacktalk> how do I mount the usb drive?
[04:17] <jacob___> smacktalk: it is automaticly mounted in ubuntu
[04:17] <jacob___> just stick it in
[04:17] <faryshta> hi, how can i use playonlinux to install a game? i have fllowed the instructions for installing age of empires and the wizard runs nice, but the game doesn't start
[04:17] <jacob___> Bashing-om: i used --bind for /proc  /dev and /sys
[04:17] <jacob___> how do i re-install the network ?
[04:18] <bb_hades> hi
[04:18] <ffl4-v> is this the channel for ubuntu?
[04:18] <jacob___> when i do "ip rou" i only see one line but no default"
[04:18] <Bashing-om> jacob___: Right on, and to enable networking I use the bind to /run . works for me .
[04:18] <ffl4-v> is there a channel for elementary-os?
[04:19] <Bashing-om> !eos | ffl4-v
[04:20] <Bashing-om> !elementary | ffl4-v
[04:20] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[04:22] <ubuntu-studio> what doing
[04:22] <Thorax> Where can i find an installer than allows me to install Ubuntu without Unity, so i can choose my own DE?
[04:22] <wileee> !mini | Thorax
[04:24] <jacob___> Bashing-om,  sorry. my computer frooze again, ubuntu is hating this machine,
[04:24] <jacob___> ok my network doesnt do dns looup
[04:24] <jacob___> lookup
[04:24] <Thorax> thank you wileee
[04:24] <wileee> no problem
[04:24] <jacob___> I can ping explicit ip addresses but not  www.xxx stuff
[04:27] <A1234A> jacob___ did you setup DNS server addressess?
[04:27] <Bashing-om> jacob___: DNS issue in the CHange Root ? "echo "nameserver 127.0.1.1" > /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf" might work in yoyr case .
[04:27] <jacob___> Bashing-om: i forgot to mount --bind /run
[04:27] <jacob___> before chroot, my bad, sorry
[04:27] <jacob___> it works now
[04:27] <jacob___> ok..
[04:28] <daftykins> jacob___: it's time you did a memtest, something more serious is up with that thing.
[04:28] <jacob___> memtest
[04:28] <jacob___> no
[04:28] <Bashing-om> jacob___: :)
[04:28] <jacob___> how do i do that?
[04:28] <daftykins> pick it from the boot menu of your DVD
[04:28] <daftykins> 'Test memory'
[04:28] <jacob___> memtest is only hardware testing my memory?
[04:29] <daftykins> yes
[04:29] <jacob___> ooh,
[04:29] <jacob___> sudo apt-get install memtest doesnt work
[04:29] <Bashing-om> jacob___: Boot to the grub boot menu and that test is an option in the advanced screen .
[04:29] <smacktalk> dang, it keeps coming up with this "you must first mount the usb drive /dev/sdc1 to a mountpoint."
[04:29] <jacob___> ok... maybe later i will do memtest , not now
[04:30] <jacob___> now i am finally ready to reinstall unity
[04:30] <jacob___> or reset it, whatever
[04:31] <jacob___> is this the correct procedure to reinstall unity ?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/95458/how-do-i-reinstall-unity
[04:31] <daftykins> if your RAM is faulty there's no point doing anything
[04:31] <jacob___> if if if, if i had a million bucks
[04:31] <daftykins> but this is a simple way to know for sure.
[04:31] <jacob___> i am not going to reboot now, ok?
[04:31] <jacob___> later
[04:32] <oats_> Can anyone help w/ battery problems
[04:32] <daftykins> you have an extremely obnoxious attitude, and for your information you are actually a noob - the last few hours you've failed at simple core concepts, i am glad i will never meet you in reality.
[04:32] <jacob___> No you have, i will do ramtest, but at the end of the repair
[04:32] <jacob___> get it?
[04:33] <jacob___> dont make up shit about me daftykins you are not that smart
[04:33] <smacktalk> you guys are funny!
[04:35] <jacob___> reinstalled desktop)))
[04:35] <jacob___> ok,.., i will reboot , hope this freaken works)))
[04:36] <oats_> Anyone familiar with power management w/ ubuntu?
[04:41] <daftykins> oats_: ask the actual question
[04:42] <oats_> daftykins: I did several times a while ago but am waiting for someone who's able s.t. I don't add details that appear out of context
[04:44] <daftykins> oats_: oh, play with powertop as well then.
[04:44] <oats_> daftykins: What's that over TLP?
[04:45] <daftykins> well i'm not familiar with that one, so just check it out
[04:45] <Someone_> hello
[04:46] <oats_> daftykins: Alright thank you
[04:46] <Someone_> I need a little help . . .
[04:46] <daftykins> ask
[04:46] <Someone_> How?
[04:46] <daftykins> with words in order to construct a sentence
[04:48] <Someone_> Alright. I got a computer from a thrift shop running Ubuntu, under OEM. There was a "Prepare to ship to end user" thing, which was what I was told to do. I clicked it and started to configure Ubuntu. However, the configuration thing crashed in the middle of configuring, so I had to shut down the computer. After restarting it, I was in the Ubuntu Grub menu. I tried going into the Ubuntu thing, but I ended up with a kernel panic.
[04:48] <Someone_> kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block 0 0
[04:49] <faryshta> hi, how can i use playonlinux to install a game? i have fllowed the instructions for installing age of empires and the wizard runs nice, but the game doesn't start
[04:49] <daftykins> ok, either your disk is bad or the installation was corrupt somehow
[04:49] <Someone_> So how do I fix it?
[04:49] <daftykins> Someone_: is this the only computer you have access to?
[04:49] <Someone_> No; I'm using a different computer right now.
[04:49] <daftykins> well step 1, get ubuntu 14.04 on a flash drive / DVD to boot
[04:49] <Someone_> I did that already.
[04:50] <daftykins> faryshta: go ask them in their channel
[04:50] <Someone_> I'm using 12.05, though.
[04:50] <daftykins> Someone_: 12.04 i hope ;)
[04:50] <daftykins> Someone_: so did you boot that from DVD/flash?
[04:50] <Someone_> sorry *12.04
[04:50] <Someone_> anyway yeah I did
[04:50] <Someone_> without installing ubuntu
[04:50] <daftykins> and is it also online?
[04:50] <Someone_> What do you mean?
[04:50] <daftykins> connected to the internet
[04:50] <Someone_> Not as of yet.
[04:51] <daftykins> what options do you have to do that, wired or?
[04:51] <Someone_> I can connect easily just as I can from Windows.
[04:51] <Someone_> Non-wired.
[04:51] <daftykins> windows on what, this same thrift shop PC?
[04:51] <faryshta> daftykins: done, channel is dead all day.
[04:51] <daftykins> what i'm getting at, is what do you need to do to get it online?
[04:51] <Someone_> I'm running Windows on a different computer.
[04:51] <daftykins> faryshta: unlucky then
[04:51] <Someone_> The other computer that I got from the thrift shop is the thing not orking.
[04:52] <faryshta> hi, how can i use playonlinux to install a game? i have fllowed the instructions for installing age of empires and the wizard runs nice, but the game doesn't start
[04:52] <daftykins> yeah i know, and i'm asking you how you can get it online? :)
[04:52] <Someone_> Do I need to get it online?
[04:52] <daftykins> yes
[04:52] <daftykins> to check things that i'm after finding out
[04:52] <Someone_> alright I connected it to the iternet
[04:52] <Someone_> *Internet
[04:52] <daftykins> open a terminal on it, with ctrl+alt+t
[04:53] <Someone_> Opened.
[04:53] <daftykins> run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools"
[04:53] <daftykins> then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[04:53] <Someone_> Failed to fetch and unable to locate package?
[04:54] <Someone_> nvm internet was off for some reason
[04:54] <daftykins> eventually you'll get a URL to type here
[04:54] <Someone_> It wouldn't let me instal pastebinit?
[04:54] <Someone_> "You will have to enable the component called 'universe"
[04:55] <daftykins> oy, ok "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:55] <daftykins> find universe, remove the # from the start of the lines, ctrl+x to save, enter then Y for yes
[04:55] <daftykins> then repeat the above commands
[04:56] <Someone_> How do I find univers?
[04:56] <daftykins> it'll be pretty obvious, the text above will say they're the universe repo
[04:56] <daftykins> and the end of the lines will have 'universe' on them
[04:57] <Someone_> I'm still in a thing that says "GNU nano 2.2.6 File: /etc/apt/sources.list Modified" at the top.
[04:57] <daftykins> yes that's a text editor 'nano'
[04:57] <daftykins> look up and down it with the cursor keys to find the relevant lines
[04:57] <Guest73685> Hello, daftykins.
[04:58] <Someone_> Wait so how do I do the stuff that says "Next page" or "Prev page"
[04:58] <Guest73685> How can I check the install size of KDE + amaroK
[04:58] <daftykins> you don't need to, just use the cursor keys to go up and down
[04:58] <Guest73685> I removed libreoffice and it freed up over 200MB of disk space.
[04:59] <john_doe_jr> what is the quickest way to delete a file
[04:59] <Someone_> As in?
[04:59] <Someone_> I see things like "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386"
[04:59] <Guest73685> Does anybody have some real verified info about amazons hardware backing?
[05:00] <daftykins> Someone_: yes and i've told you what to look for, so keep going until you find it :)
[05:00] <daftykins> john_doe_jr: graphically or via CLI?
[05:00] <john_doe_jr> daftykins: well, from the terminal…I know about rm -rf
[05:01] <john_doe_jr> daftykins: but for real large amounts of data this takes a while
[05:01] <daftykins> don't use that, recursion and force is not needed in normal circumstances
[05:01] <daftykins> well, tell me what the task is?
[05:01] <Someone_> wait so cursor keys as in
[05:01] <john_doe_jr> daftykins: it's a backup job that copied terabytes of data
[05:01] <Someone_> I'm a completely noob with some things... sorry
[05:02] <daftykins> john_doe_jr: so what's getting deleted?
[05:02] <john_doe_jr> daftykins: the terabytes of data
[05:02] <daftykins> Someone_: the keys with the little arrows on them.
[05:02] <john_doe_jr> daftykins: I thought about using dd
[05:02] <daftykins> john_doe_jr: nothing better than that then.
[05:02] <daftykins> well dd would take even longer ;)
[05:02] <Someone_> So the arrow keys. What do I do to expand the things or whatever?
[05:02] <daftykins> bit puzzled as to the idea of using rm on a backup though, often you want it in both places
[05:03] <daftykins> Someone_: did you find the universe section yet?
[05:03] <Someone_> no
[05:03] <john_doe_jr> daftykins: well, the backup job is not needed anymore
[05:03] <john_doe_jr> daftykins: but it's like taking forever to delete
[05:03] <daftykins> Someone_: then what else do you need to do beyond cursoring down the file to find it? just keep pressing down...
[05:03] <daftykins> john_doe_jr: mmhmm, c'est la vie.
[05:03] <Someone_> I did, but I can't go any further?
[05:04] <daftykins> then you must've gone past it
[05:04] <Someone_> I don't see anything
[05:05] <daftykins> Someone_: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/sample/sources.list
[05:05] <daftykins> look at this example file
[05:05] <daftykins> can you see where it says "## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu" ?
[05:05] <Someone_> they're all restricted?
[05:05] <daftykins> do you see it?
[05:05] <Someone_> no
[05:05] <daftykins> in the above link?
[05:06] <Someone_> I saw it in the link but I don't see it in my terminal
[05:06] <daftykins> go back to the top
[05:06] <daftykins> well, ignore that line - do you see the 4 lines beginning with "deb" or "deb-src" underneath it?
[05:06] <daftykins> do you see that they have 'universe' at the end?
[05:06] <Someone_> I see 8 lines beginning with "deb"
[05:06] <Someone_> At the end they all say "precise main restricted"
[05:07] <daftykins> ok type in the ones from my link
[05:07] <daftykins> at the very end of the file
[05:07] <boszwap> easy does it
[05:07] <daftykins> e.g. "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universe"
[05:08] <Someone_> I'm very confused. I just typed "deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main and deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.om/ubuntu precise main
[05:09] <daftykins> yeah, each on separate lines?
[05:09] <Someone_> yeah
[05:09] <daftykins> now hit ctrl+x, then enter, then yes
[05:09] <daftykins> (Y for yes)
[05:09] <daftykins> and you should be back to the terminal from before
[05:09] <daftykins> then you can hit cursor up and repeat the command from earlier
[05:10] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools"
[05:10] <Someone_> what was the command from earlier?
[05:10] <daftykins> you should be comfortable with scrolling in Windows to look up at earlier
[05:10] <Someone_> It's not as easy to do so when I'm doing something else at the same time
[05:10] <daftykins> like what...
[05:10] <Someone_> It ays "unable to locate package pastebinit" again
[05:11] <daftykins> oy
[05:11] <Someone_> but I got a lot of other text that shows translation packages or someting
[05:11] <daftykins> yep
[05:11] <daftykins> try repeating the same command but delete 'pastebinit'
[05:11] <Guest73685> Wil you give up forever to touch me?
[05:11] <Someone_> Postfix configuration?
[05:12] <daftykins> Someone_: just hit ok, then 'no configuration'
[05:12] <daftykins> again with cursor keys, tab and enter
[05:13] <Someone_> Alriht got hat
[05:13] <daftykins> installed?
[05:13] <Someone_> It's setting up postfix or something
[05:13] <daftykins> mmhmm, should return to the prompt after that
[05:13] <Someone_> The last thing it said was "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place"
[05:13] <daftykins> yip
[05:14] <daftykins> ok now "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda > ~/Desktop/disk.txt
[05:14] <daftykins> you should see a text file appear on your desktop now, open it - then copy and paste it into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:14] <Someone_> It didn't send any messages; just gave me another ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ thing
[05:14] <daftykins> yeah it wouldn't do
[05:14] <Someone_> okay I see disk.txt
[05:16] <Guest73685> What is the first step in troubleshooting hibernate not working?
[05:18] <daftykins> Someone_: were you able to paste it on the website? you need to then paste the link to that page here
[05:18] <Someone_> what do you mean?
[05:18] <daftykins> did you open the text file?
[05:18] <Someone_> y
[05:18] <Someone_> ya
[05:19] <daftykins> did it open in a graphical text editor so you could see the contents?
[05:19] <Someone_> as in
[05:19] <dna113p> What command could I use to easily take the contents of my clipboard into a new file... I find myself doing this manually a lot
[05:19] <daftykins> ok, now i need to see what was in it... so open firefox the web browser and visit http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:20] <daftykins> Someone_: so?
[05:21] <Someone_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12675929/
[05:22] <daftykins> yay
[05:23] <daftykins> Someone_: what kind of computer is this? it has an 8GB SSD 0o chromebook perhaps?
[05:23] <Someone_> Not a chromebook
[05:23] <Someone_> Acer aspire
[05:23] <daftykins> oh a turd netbook
[05:23] <daftykins> well you can install from the live session then
[05:23] <Someone_> yep
[05:23] <Someone_> So I just install from there from the usb?
[05:23] <Someone_> As in reinstall?
[05:23] <daftykins> yep
[05:24] <Someone_> It was in OEM config before
[05:24] <daftykins> tell it to wipe the whole drive
[05:24] <daftykins> that doesn't matter
[05:24] <Someone_> Alright
[05:24] <Someone_> so I just press te button "Install Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS"?
[05:24] <Someone_> *file
[05:25] <daftykins> yes
[05:25] <Someone_> okay now is loading xD
[05:26] <Someone_> Do I check off "Download updates while installing" and "Instal this third-party software"?
[05:27] <daftykins> neither matter
[05:27] <Someone_> alright
[05:27] <Someone_> Unmount partitions that are in use?
[05:27] <daftykins> yes
[05:28] <Someone_> Erase disk and install Ubuntu?
[05:28] <daftykins> yep
[05:31] <Someone_> How long does the installation take?
[05:32] <daftykins> how long is a piece of string?
[05:32] <Someone_> oh okay
[05:33] <Infinitez> help
[05:34] <rww> heh.
[05:34] <daftykins> that was clearly important
[05:36] <Guest73685> daftykins: what command is run to check the install size of plasma kde and amarok?
[05:38] <daftykins> Guest73685: PM ubottu and do !info <package>
[05:39] <daftykins> or 'apt-cache show <package>' shows a size
[05:39] <RepThis1> Anyone running the polari irc client?
[05:41] <daftykins> RepThis1: what if they were?
[05:42] <RepThis1> daftykins: would ask if it actually functions better then it did a year ago. I would not at the time allow you to join a channel that you had to be registered to join.
[05:43] <RepThis1> daftykins: or something bizarre. I checked their irc but found no one.
[05:44] <daftykins> must be on the wrong network
[05:45] <dsnyders> Hi gang!  When I use vi in insert mode, certain keystrokes (like backspace, up-arrow, and the like) insert letters into my file instead of performing the desired action.  What am I doing wrong?
[05:46] <RepThis1> dsnyders: i would love an answer to this too.
[06:09] <juniorgoat> hello anyone know how to use grep to output lines that have numbers AND letters?
[06:09] <daftykins> #bash do
[06:10] <juniorgoat> thanks\
[06:14] <mhm4d> ./hi
[06:14] <daftykins> l
[06:14] <daftykins> o
[06:21] <bfrank> hi, does anyone know how to connect to multiple vpns with ubuntu?
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !vpn | bfrank
[06:22] <anonymous> hello
[06:24] <imthenachoman> hey guys. i was wondering what is the preferred "pooling" method these days? i have 2 extra drives on my machine of different sizes. i wanted to join them to be one drive to store files on. nothing important so don't need any kind of raid or backup
[06:26] <Ben64> lvm
[06:26] <imthenachoman> Ben64: thanks. i was thinknig of that since its built in with ubuntu
[06:27] <Ben64> yeah its pretty easy to work with
[06:27] <imthenachoman> any good GUI for it or do i need to use CLI. feeling lazy
[06:28] <daftykins> CLI \o/
[06:28] <clrae> i have installed ubuntu but no graphical interface is showing , what can i do ??
[06:28] <daftykins> what is it on, a laptop?
[06:29] <root____4> test
[06:30] <clrae> daftykins : can  you help me please ?
[06:31] <Ben64> clrae: you need to answer the questions for that to work
[06:31] <cfhowlett> !details | clrae,
[06:32] <mircx1> what is this ywh_1
[06:32] <mircx1> make version
[06:32] <mircx1> :\
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> mircx1: report to #ubuntu-ops please
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> mircx1: he's version users on join
[06:32] <Ben64> confirmed
[06:33] <julio__> oww, son unos cuantos...
[06:33] <julio__> jaja
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> !es | julio__
[06:34] <julio__> THANK YOU
[06:34] <julio__> :D
[06:35] <daftykins> clrae: not until you answer my question?
[06:35] <clrae> daftykins :I have installed ubuntu from a mini iso 15.04 , and now when i start booting i get prompt to enter my userand pass in the command line , there is no graphical interface to box for pass no desktop , so what can i do in this situation to get a normal graphical interface
[06:36] <daftykins> clrae: yeah that's what mini does
[06:36] <daftykins> clrae: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <cfhowlett> clrae, you have to install a gui
[06:36] <daftykins> (if you want unity)
[06:36] <Someone_> alright so ubuntu works on my laptop now. Thanks daftykins (Well it's worked for about a half hour but I forgot to check irc)
[06:36] <daftykins> ;) no problemo.
[06:36] <Someone_> Sorry for wasting your time on something that could've been fixed very simply haha
[06:37] <daftykins> Someone_: well we needed to check whether you got sold a machine with a lemon of a hard disk, otherwise installing would've been a waste of time
[06:37] <daftykins> Someone_: bear in mind you need to install lots of updates now
[06:37] <clrae> daftykins : but i will need to configure the network then to get access to the internet , or my wifi pass is alraedy saved in it ?
[06:37] <RepThis1> !pastebin
[06:38] <RepThis1> !screenshots
[06:39] <eliasps> darkxst anjuta http://pastebin.com/7VL3xFxX . Is it ok?
[06:39] <clrae> cfhowlett ; i want to install Lubuntu interface  how to do that ?
[06:39] <cfhowlett> clrae, sudo apt install lxde
[06:39] <cfhowlett> for the desktop environment
[06:40] <daftykins> !info lubuntu-desktop
[06:40] <daftykins> or that for the whole thing ^
[06:41] <clrae> cfhowlett : so the command i need is sudo apt-get  install lxde
[06:41] <cfhowlett> clrae, that'll work too
[06:42] <clrae> cfhowlett ; an what about the network so i have to configure it from the command line to connect to wifi ?
[06:43] <daftykins> clrae: wait until you get there.
[06:44] <daftykins> you don't need CLI wifi
[06:44] <clrae> cfhowlett : why ?
[06:44] <Guest73685> Hello Miron.
[06:46] <faryshta> hi, how can i use playonlinux to install a game? i have fllowed the instructions for installing age of empires and the wizard runs nice, but the game doesn't start
[06:46] <cfhowlett> clrae, why?  cuz the gui will include a network manager
[06:47] <baizon> faryshta: well wine can also do it
[06:48] <daftykins> Play on Linux is a wine wrapper i hear, so it is the same thing no?
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> yep
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> faryshta: any errors on starting game
[06:48] <baizon> daftykins: play on linux got more scripts to get things working, they use wine
[06:49] <daftykins> baizon: so what i'm getting at, is surely your suggestion doesn't change much?
[06:49] <daftykins> ah well, i don't put effort into games help.
[06:50] <Guest73685> Miron hangouts is up.
[06:54] <arooni> is leaving password auth over ssh on a stupid idea ?  or an ok idea?  i know obviously removing password logins over ssh is better than not doing it.
[06:54] <clrae> is there a way to connect to the wifi from command line ?
[06:55] <daftykins> arooni: no, as long as you change default port and keep root login disabled - assuming you have it open to the internet
[06:55] <cfhowlett> clrae, yes.  this once, I will not give you the LMGTFY version ... http://blog.tplus1.com/blog/2008/06/13/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-from-the-ubuntu-command-line/
[06:58] <clrae> cfhowlett : am palnning to connect from the command line and install lubuntu-desktop  does that cober  everything ?
[06:58] <cfhowlett> clrae, nope
[06:58] <daftykins> all this delay you could've had it installed by now, clrae ;)
[06:58] <cfhowlett> clrae, ^^^ this.  go for it.
[06:58] <daftykins> perhaps with a nice network cable to do the initial bit
[06:59] <cfhowlett> clrae, how are you connected at the moment?  cable network, right?
[07:00] <buntulost> i have a wifi problem - laptop running 14.04 can't connect to internet, same machine booting into 10.04 has no problem. pls can someone help me to fix this?
[07:00] <daftykins> buntulost: what's the wifi card?
[07:00] <clrae> cfhowlett :  wifi ,i dont have access to the ethernet cable though
[07:00] <daftykins> clrae: you're in a chicken and egg situation then
[07:00] <daftykins> or is that... egg and chicken?
[07:00] <Twirl> Hi, anyone knows how to control sound volume with a key combination?
[07:00] <buntulost> @daftykins how do i find that out - am a bit of a beginner
[07:00] <daftykins> buntulost: "lspci" if it's a PCI card
[07:02] <buntulost> big output...
[07:02] <daftykins> pastebin it
[07:02] <buntulost> qualcomm atheros ar242x
[07:03] <buntulost> @daftykins i am typing this on a chromebook (connected to same wifi) I can't pastebin without being able to connect to the internet
[07:03] <oats_> daftykins: You've got some long hours
[07:03] <nbags> hi i've got a laptop with an e1000 nic. its connected to a gigbit switch with a cat6 cable. problem is it flips back to 100mbps every day or so, which is really annoying. unplugging and replugging the cable brings it back up to 1000mbps. how can i debug this issue?
[07:04] <daftykins> buntulost: sudo modprobe ath5k
[07:05] <daftykins> oats_: sleep is for the week ;)
[07:05] <buntulost> i did that command - but it didn't give me any output
[07:06] <daftykins> it won't
[07:06] <daftykins> now "sudo service network-manager restart"
[07:07] <buntulost> ok i did that
[07:07] <oats_> daftykins: Did you mean you work freenode support 48 hrs over the weekend, and you only sleep during the week
[07:07] <oats_> or that sleep is for weak people in general
[07:08] <daftykins> well i spelt it week, so i meant weekdays :)
[07:08] <oats_> alright haha
[07:08] <daftykins> and this is volunteer based y'know, there's no earning money here :)
[07:08] <oats_> thank you, g'night
[07:08] <oats_> You earn thank you's
[07:08] <daftykins> and the warm fuzzy feeling inside
[07:08] <daftykins> buntulost: what interfaces do you see if you type "ifconfig -a" ?
[07:09] <buntulost> @daftykins eth0, lo and wlan0
[07:10] <daftykins> yay so wlan0 is there, now is this standard unity?
[07:10] <daftykins> you should be able to see wireless networks from the network icon now
[07:10] <wileee> Twirl, The edit at the end of the first post just fixed it's target not working here.  https://askubuntu.com/questions/486182/volume-control-keyboard-shortcuts-not-working-in-14-04
[07:11] <buntulost> yes - but i could before too
[07:14] <Twirl> wileee: i have a laptop that has the volume keys but i'm using it as a desktop computer and i want to use the external keyboard
[07:14] <Twirl> wileee: i dont know which key shortcuts are used for volume up/down or how to set it up
[07:14] <buntulost> i can ping 8.8.8.8 but not www.google.com
[07:14] <buntulost> its very very odd
[07:15] <baizon> buntulost: restart?
[07:15] <daftykins> that'd lose that module
[07:15] <buntulost> i have tried that several times
[07:15] <febritecno> hi
[07:15] <daftykins> buntulost: so what happens when you try to connect to your network...
[07:16] <buntulost> it seems to connect - but can't load any web pages in chrome or firefox
[07:16] <daftykins> ok so connect, then run this: "nslookup google.com" and compare it against the machine you're typing from
[07:17] <daftykins> you should get a bunch of IPs returned.
[07:17] <buntulost> machine i'm typing on is a chromebook
[07:18] <daftykins> yes it you can also get a terminal on a chromebook :)
[07:18] <daftykins> s/it/and/
[07:18] <buntulost> connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[07:18] <daftykins> got a camera you can take a pic with in lieu of pastebin'ing?
[07:18] <buntulost> i never knew that
[07:19] <buntulost> yes - got a camera
[07:19] <daftykins> can you run "ip a" on the system and share a pic online? imgur.com would do
[07:20] <ROKO__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lpbugreporter/+bug/752542
[07:20] <ROKO__> is this still active ?
[07:20] <james0r2> having issues with conky. if i use the setting own_window_type desktop, it shows up but disappears if desktop is clicked. if i choose theoption override i get a black background, if i choose normal it ignores gap settings, if i choose dock notify-osd respects the conky space which i don't want.
[07:21] <james0r2> anyone else run into this conundrum?
[07:24] <auronandace> ROKO__: it started in 2011 and appears to still be active, your comment looks like the last one on there but previous ones are recent
[07:25] <buntulost> just working out how to use imgur...
[07:25] <ROKO__> auronandace so i have some problems in dsdt
[07:26] <ROKO__> and i report it
[07:26] <ROKO__> because i see there is and another person that report with same notebook
[07:28] <xStark> I need help
[07:28] <daftykins> ROKO__: hmm, optimus related? what's up?
[07:28] <daftykins> xStark: ask away!
[07:28] <xStark> My keyboard is randomly switching to caps lock
[07:28] <ROKO__> daftykins no
[07:28] <ROKO__> amd hybrid graphics
[07:28] <xStark> even when its showing its not caps lock
[07:28] <ROKO__> FX 7500 R7 M260DX
[07:28] <daftykins> your caps lock light is flashing off and on, xStark ?
[07:28] <xStark> it happens even when my laptop is connected with a wireless keyboard and happens even when its not connect
[07:28] <xStark> daftykins: Nope
[07:29] <Twirl> Anyone knows where Ubuntu Mono font is located?
[07:29] <Twirl> Can't find it in /usr/share/fonts
[07:29] <buntulost> @daftykins http://imgur.com/5bDv741
[07:30] <rww> Twirl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/all/ttf-ubuntu-font-family/filelist
[07:30] <ROKO__> daftykins so do you have an idea ?
[07:30] <daftykins> ROKO__: nope didn't even read it.
[07:30] <rww> Twirl: oh, sorry, you said Mono. sec.
[07:30] <daftykins> if it affects AMD hybrid then it's not my bag
[07:31] <xStark> daftykins: When that happens, I lose total control. I try to open a new tab in mozilla, a new window opens. I click a channel window in IRC, it randomly closes. If I suspend the PC, sometimes it gets stuck
[07:31] <rww> Twirl: actually, yeah, they're in there
[07:31] <daftykins> buntulost: can you "ping 192.168.0.1" ? ctrl+c to stop
[07:31] <xStark> And I get the error message "Ubuntu has experienced an internal problem"
[07:31] <rww> Twirl: there's a second package with just Mono fonts in it, but looks like they're consolefonts
[07:31] <Twirl> rww: yea, ty man
[07:31] <xStark> daftykins: The problem happened less frequently, but now, it's very frequent.
[07:31] <buntulost> yes - all good there, no packet loss
[07:32] <ROKO__> daftykins so leave that my main problem is with wake up notebook from suspend and cpu pstates
[07:32] <daftykins> ROKO__: one moment
[07:32] <ROKO__> because after suspend stuck at minimal frequency 1100MHz and with changing governor to performance nothing happens still stuck
[07:33] <ROKO__> only after reboot working again
[07:33] <daftykins> ROKO__: have you tried this acpi_osi kernel parameter thing?
[07:33] <ROKO__> nope
[07:33] <ROKO__> can you suggest me which one ?
[07:33] <xStark> daftykins: Any idea how to fix this?
[07:34] <daftykins> ROKO__: run this - "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | egrep -i (windows|linux)"
[07:34] <daftykins> xStark: nope i'm not even clear on what you're saying is happening
[07:34] <daftykins> buntulost: cool, er and can you edit /etc/resolv.conf and put "nameserver 192.168.0.1" in there?
[07:35] <ROKO__> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12677785/
[07:36] <xStark> daftykins: I'm typing and my keyboard randomly starts typing in caps when its not even in caps. And no, there's nothing blinking. When this happens, I lose total control over my keyboard and mouse. For example, when I click on the '+' option in mozilla to open a new tab, it opens a new window instead.
[07:36] <buntulost> do i use the gedit command?
[07:36] <daftykins> ROKO__: cool, try appending acpi_osi="Windows 2012" to your kernel boot parameters
[07:36] <ROKO__> but why windows ?
[07:37] <buntulost> i did that and it opened a dialog box with '# Generated by NetworkManager' and that's it
[07:37] <ROKO__> btw for info on windows 10 is same issue
[07:37] <daftykins> ROKO__: because it may give you more conventional functionality.
[07:37] <daftykins> yeah, well 10 is 10.
[07:37] <ROKO__> its shit
[07:37] <daftykins> i don't care for your opinions of Windows.
[07:37] <daftykins> either try it or not, up to you
[07:37] <ROKO__> :)
[07:38] <ROKO__> okay thanks i will try now
[07:38] <daftykins> buntulost: yeah empty it and put just that one line
[07:38] <daftykins> buntulost: i'd use nano personally in a terminal, so "sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf"
[07:38] <daftykins> stab ctrl+K a few times to empty the lines, then "nameserver 192.168.0.1" ctrl+x, enter, y to save
[07:38] <daftykins> next up, retry your DNS test with "nslookup google.com"
[07:39] <xStark> Looks like no one's understanding the problem...
[07:39] <auronandace> xStark: it seems you have more than just a keyboard issue
[07:39] <xStark> auronandace: What do you propose I do?
[07:40] <daftykins> xStark: see the other folk i'm helping? wait your damn turn.
[07:40] <xStark> woah, cool down
[07:40] <daftykins> my point exactly :)
[07:40] <buntulost> @daftykins - amazing!!! i'm back online
[07:40] <daftykins> test a guest session if you haven't already
[07:40] <buntulost> thank you SO much!!!
[07:41] <daftykins> buntulost: ok, now that's not going to work every single boot - as it was just a temporary edit, so you're going to need to purge the package "resolvconf" , and keep /etc/resolv.conf containing that line
[07:41] <daftykins> for whatever reason your wireless interface is getting the wrong DNS IPs from DHCP
[07:42] <buntulost> ok how do i purge the package?
[07:42] <daftykins> sudo apt-get purge resolvconf
[07:42] <auronandace> xStark: you mention mozilla, are you referring to firefox or have you added some sort of ppa?
[07:44] <xStark> auronandace: I am referring to firefox.
[07:45] <xStark> And I have no idea what PPA is
[07:45] <buntulost> ok - i did that and it recommended a reboot...
[07:45] <daftykins> buntulost: yep, then you'll need to edit that file again
[07:46] <daftykins> auronandace: i don't think it matters what program it is, sounds like it's system wide
[07:46] <auronandace> xStark: ppas are personal package archives, essentially 3rd party repos, they can cause conflicts and problems sometimes
[07:47] <ROKO__> daftykins hm looks like have general change... or i going crazy.. i think the image now have better quality
[07:48] <buntulost> ok... i edited it... seems ok again
[07:48] <auronandace> daftykins: sorry, just trying to narrow down the possible culprits
[07:48] <buntulost> is this now permanently fixed?
[07:48] <daftykins> ROKO__: best part is i only got taught that a few hours ago
[07:49] <daftykins> buntulost: yeah if it stays there on reboot, just bear in mind that 192.168.0.1 is your router, so if you go on another wireless network it's probably not gonna work - so you could just change that to 8.8.8.8 which is google DNS.
[07:50] <buntulost> ok thanks - someone mentioned that if you do that google know all your browsing. is that really true?
[07:51] <auronandace> buntulost: you could also use opendns servers if you prefer
[07:51] <buntulost> and what is the ip address of the opendns servers pls?
[07:51] <daftykins> buntulost: probably.
[07:51] <daftykins> 208.67.220.220
[07:52] <daftykins> or 208.67.222.222, you could put both in to be sure
[07:52] <daftykins> each on a line "nameserver x"
[07:52] <buntulost> so i edit that file again and add those on separate lines, right?
[07:52] <daftykins> correct, then reboot once more to check they stay
[07:52] <auronandace> buntulost: http://use.opendns.com/
[07:53] <xStark> auronandace: It just happened again. Only way to fix it is re boot. It wont even let me suspend. It doesn't fully suspend and gets stuck
[07:53] <xStark> auronandace: It gave me a system program problem detected dialogue
[07:53] <auronandace> xStark: sorry, i never suspend so i can't help you there, but i know suspend can cause issues depending on your hardware
[07:54] <xStark> yeah
[07:54] <buntulost> wow - you guys rock!
[07:54] <xStark> auronandace: Do you want to know the things Ubuntu wants to report?
[07:54] <lonely> Any Chinese here?
[07:54] <daftykins> !cn
[07:54] <daftykins> xStark: bear in mind that typically one error, every boot it prompts you about the same one - so it might not even be a new one
[07:55] <lonely>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:55] <buntulost> ok... just went to edit it again and 192.168.0.1 is not there anymore!
[07:55] <buntulost> but nameserver 127.0.1.1 is
[07:55] <xStark> daftykins: I think it's the same one too.
[07:56] <daftykins> buntulost: yeah, usually one reboot after purging resolvconf the little blighter comes back... just reboot until it stops essentially
[07:56] <xStark> auronandace and daftykins: It's telling that the problem type is "KernelOops"
[07:56] <daftykins> well that's no good, suggests a wider system issue
[07:56] <daftykins> but i still have no idea on that one.
[07:56] <xStark> And it occured during a previous suspend and prevented it from resuming properly
[07:57] <xStark> I'll just take screenshots
[07:57] <xStark> Give me a minute
[07:58] <buntulost> @daftykins do i need to reboot and purge or just keep rebooting?
[07:58] <daftykins> just rebooting, one purge and the package is GONE! Cillit Bang.
[07:58] <buntulost> thanks Barry!
[07:59] <daftykins> :D
[07:59] <xStark> auronandace and daftykins: http://imgur.com/a/S5Pzz
[08:01] <daftykins> well that refers to 3.19.0-25 which is old now, so i'd be sure you're on what i believe is now -30
[08:01] <daftykins> and hope it goes away
[08:02] <daftykins> but yeah, still no idea
[08:02] <indistylo> I was making Real time notification using Django web server, Nodejs and redis following this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tibla5fSqM , I succesfully installed all dependencies, created project, Now I faced some exception while creating at "startapp" example step, In frustration i end up deleting "global" folder in home directory (via terminal on ubuntu i used "rm -rfv global"), Now i want this global folder back, to develop the pub sub notif
[08:02] <indistylo> ication, Kindly help to recover from this problem
[08:03] <OneM_Industries> Hey, how can I check if there are any hidden partitions on a drive?
[08:04] <daftykins> indistylo: that was really, really stupid. don't use r and f with a delete when you don't need to.
[08:04] <daftykins> indistylo: second, that sounds like learning to dev - so why not find an appropriate channel?
[08:04] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: 'hidden' ? what's today's crazy idea based on?
[08:05] <OneM_Industries> I have a 16GB flash drive that is suddenly reporting as 14GB after I loaned it to someone, and I suspect that something funny is going on.
[08:06] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[08:06] <indistylo> daftykins: I did by mistake being a noob as learninguser
[08:06] <indistylo> I have learned hard lesson. Never will repeat this
[08:06] <OneM_Industries> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12677905/
[08:07] <OneM_Industries> Bingo, somehow there is a 1GB difference between that and lsblk.
[08:08] <OneM_Industries> Odd....if I use gparted and go to that device, then it shows as it being 14.5GB...
[08:08] <daftykins> i think you're just getting confused by different OSs and programs reporting storage with different units
[08:08] <daftykins> you know about GiB and GB right?
[08:09] <daftykins> you can always be doubly sure by just dd'ing the whole flash drive with zeroes
[08:09] <OneM_Industries> Yes.
[08:09] <daftykins> see what fdisk says too
[08:09] <daftykins> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[08:10] <OneM_Industries>  /dev/sdd1   *        2048    30296063    15147008    b  W95 FAT32
[08:11] <OneM_Industries> So, the first sector is 2048, which is odd.
[08:11] <OneM_Industries> Gparted shows no preceding space.
[08:11] <daftykins> so like i said, zero it if you're still paranoid.
[08:15] <loki_> hi
[08:16] <OneM_Industries> Hi!
[08:28] <xStark> I just made my own game in JS :P
[08:29] <xStark> Of course, very simple.
[08:29] <daftykins> !ot | xStark
[08:29] <xStark> Oh, right...
[08:29] <xStark> I apologize.
[08:32] <trump_> sup all
[08:33] <davidleon> i installed xubuntu-desktop currently i dislike its greeter. cause it shows nothing about other desktop i installed. and it's buggy. I want to switch to unity-greeter. what should i do
[08:33] <davidleon> there are posts about /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[08:33] <davidleon> but i don't have this file
[08:35] <ilken> install gdm
[08:36] <davidleon> why is it related to gdm?
[08:36] <ilken> oh you want lightdm?
[08:37] <ilken> i cant recommend unity because it never works right o my ancient hardwarez
[08:37] <davidleon> i found one, it asks me to create one
[08:37] <davidleon> i will reboot and test
[08:38] <zephyr> k
[08:44] <trump_> is there a way to mute all the joins/leaves?
[08:45] <daftykins> depends on your client
[08:45] <daftykins> google it
[08:46] <trump_> using the browser >.<
[08:46] <daftykins> don't :)
[08:47] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | trump_
[08:47] <trump_> thanks, but just found it
[08:48] <trump_> its amazing how you can overlook things at 4am lol
[08:49] <peanutlove> Can anyone try accessing this IP address? http://[2400:6180:0:d0::f3:f001]
[08:49] <daftykins> no.
[08:50] <trump_> lol
[08:50] <cfhowlett> not no but H*** no!
[08:51] <peanutlove> that's an ipv6 address just trying to test it
[08:52] <daftykins> !ot | peanutlove elsewhere please.
[08:53] <peanutlove> daftykins: I'm using an ubuntu server and trying to configure/enable ipv6 hence landed here.
[08:53] <OneM_Industries> Right, pinging it.
[08:54] <daftykins> given the protocol requested to try was http, ping doesn't count :)
[08:54] <peanutlove> I'm able to ping6 or ssh or curl that from another server but not from my local computer.
[08:54] <OneM_Industries> True.
[08:54] <OneM_Industries> ping: unknown host 2400:6180:0:d0::f3:f001
[08:54] <OneM_Industries> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at [2400:6180:0:d0::f3:f001].
[08:54] <daftykins> not all routers allow you to go out then back in, if you're hosting it at home
[08:54] <peanutlove> daftykins: this is on a vps provider (which supports ipv6)
[08:55] <daftykins> ok, just checking
[08:55] <SCHAAP137> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 187.189/187.424/188.040/0.517 ms
[08:55] <daftykins> i bet your web server config isn't listening on all relevant interfaces
[08:55] <SCHAAP137> ping6'd you from my own VPS
[08:56] <peanutlove> daftykins: I'm not even able to ping or SSH from my local computer. but works fine from my other servers.
[08:56] <peanutlove> SCHAAP137: ping6 worked? can you try curling? curl -6g http://[2400:6180:0:d0::f3:f001]
[08:56] <daftykins> that's nice
[08:57] <peanutlove> a few google searches about ipv6 speak of enabling ipv6 in sysctl.conf. But they are all from 2012. I'l give that a try tho.
[08:57] <Quantumpants> my system keeps coming up with loads of error messages when i start it up, is there a way to reload the OS without loosing all my softwere and settings?
[08:57] <peanutlove> Quantumpants: what are the errors about?
[08:58] <SCHAAP137> port 80 seems open
[08:58] <SCHAAP137> i see the nginx welcome page in my curl, peanutlove
 i dont understand eny of it, but its sayinging that date is missing
[08:59] <peanutlove> SCHAAP137: thanks a lot ~! this is definitely something to do with my local computer then.
[08:59] <daftykins> are you sure your ISP even provides IPv6 connectivity?
[09:00] <SCHAAP137> i'm using like 10 IPv6's simultaneously on my VPS, i can confirm my tests are working
[09:00] <peanutlove> daftykins: I have two internet connections. Doesn't work on both.
[09:01] <peanutlove> ouch. tests online say ipv6 isnt supported by my isp
[09:01] <SCHAAP137> same here, my home ISP has no IPv6 yet, bummer
[09:02] <peanutlove> SCHAAP137: I didn't know that I had to check that part. I've been hitting my head against the wall for the past 6-7hrs now thinking it has to do with the server's settings.
[09:02] <SCHAAP137> just 7 hops, not that far
[09:02] <SCHAAP137> awhh :{
[09:02] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[09:03] <daftykins> yeah um, it's pretty obvious to check you have a v6 address on your router
[09:03] <daftykins> think, #1 test would be to try another site first
[09:03] <SCHAAP137> you could build an OpenVPN server with 4-to-6 tunneling
[09:04] <daftykins> you can always get yourself a tunnel from one of the providers that do it
[09:07] <xStark> I disabled sticky keys. So far so good. No keyboard problems.
[09:10] <Jakey2> when i run sudo pwmconfig i get /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[09:10] <Jakey2> im running a hp pavalion and the fans are driving me nuts
[09:11] <daftykins> Jakey2: can you pastebin "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | egrep -i (windows|linux)"
[09:14] <Jakey2> daftykins, i get sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | egrep -i (windows|linux)
[09:15] <Jakey2> daftykins, i get bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[09:15] <daftykins> hang on think i paste failed
[09:16] <daftykins> hmm nope it's supposed to be like that
[09:17] <Jakey2> what are you trying to grep for
[09:18] <daftykins> well it wasn't me that provided that command, but essentially any windows entries
[09:18] <daftykins> and yes, i know how odd that sounds - but just give it a whirl
[09:19]  * Acilim  ßen  >>»» §ørtiE §¢ript v2.¹ ««<<- i kullanýyorum þiddetle tavsiye ederim - [> www.sortie.cjb.net <]-
[09:19] <daftykins> Acilim: no thanks, don't do that again
[09:19] <Acilim> sorry
[09:19] <Acilim> wrong button
[09:22] <Jakey2> daftykins, not sure how to proceed with the error from sudo pwmconfig
[09:22] <daftykins> well you haven't given me my answer yet
[09:23] <Jakey2> that command doesnt work for me
[09:23] <daftykins> oy
[09:23] <daftykins> sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows
[09:23] <daftykins> what about that?
[09:24] <Jakey2> wprked
[09:24] <Jakey2> worked
[09:24] <daftykins> pop it in a paste.ubuntu.com
[09:24] <asmaAL-Bahanta> hi
[09:24] <Jakey2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12678257/
[09:25] <Jakey2> with linux it just says linux
[09:25] <daftykins> Jakey2: ok so add the kernel boot parameter: acpi_osi="Windows 2012" as a test
[09:25] <daftykins> see how the fans behave.
[09:25] <Jakey2> ok
[09:28] <trump_> lol
[09:29] <Jakey2> daftykins, do i need to reboot or is sudo update-grub
[09:29] <Jakey2> enough
[09:30] <daftykins> i said try it out haha, don't put it in permanently
[09:31] <Jakey2> after sudo update-grub same error occured
[09:31] <daftykins> what error...
[09:31] <xStark> Still no problems with the keyboard after disabling sticky keys...
[09:32] <daftykins> xStark: i don't think we benefit much from minute by minute updates :)
[09:32] <xStark> daftykins: It isn't minute by minute... Last update was almost 30 minutes ago..
[09:32] <Jakey2> "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"
[09:33] <xStark> Anyway, nvm
[09:33] <daftykins> xStark: hmm they must not do humour over there
[09:33] <daftykins> Jakey2: that's even after booting with that added huh?
[09:34] <daftykins> ah well.
[09:36] <Jakey2> daftykins, yep no difference after reboot
[09:38] <daftykins> ah well, i got nothin'
[09:38] <daftykins> latest BIOS i take it?
[09:39] <Jakey2> ye
[09:39] <daftykins> the expert that gave me those commands and so on might be on in another 12hrs
[09:40] <Jakey2> ok thanks, whats his handle
[09:41] <daftykins> i'd rather he present the offer if into it at the time :)
[09:43] <Jakey2> ok np
[09:45] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[09:45] <daftykins> lo
[09:46] <jokersmile_woo> I turned off networking completly from the icon in lower right and won't turn back on.
[09:47] <jokersmile_woo> lubuntu 15.04
[09:47] <daftykins> reboot? :)
[09:48] <jokersmile_woo> didn't work
[09:48] <daftykins> find out where lubuntu stores its' network config and reset it
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> jokersmile_woo  start with  locate network|less
[09:54] <jokersmile_woo> doing this from my android will take forever. I'll try again tomorrow. thanks any ways.
[09:54] <asmaAL-Bahanta>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER asmaAL-Bahanta mbfackvhwmcy
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> change your password!
[09:54] <daftykins> best to do those in the status window, asmaAL-Bahanta
[09:55] <daftykins> it's not a password it's a verify code :)
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> change your verify code!
[09:57] <daftykins> :P
[10:58] <basiclaser> how can i change the display driver to xorg server from the terminal?
[10:59] <basiclaser> I changed it to some proprietary nvidia and now i cant get past the login screen
[10:59] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | basiclaser
[11:01] <rudolf_> Hi
[11:02] <basiclaser> cfhowlett: thanks will give it a shot
[11:02] <rudolf_> I installed windows over ubuntu and I need to repair my grub now. I have got easyBCD and I'm trying to add grub. But the problem is I forgot which partition was the linux boot partition.
[11:03] <rudolf_> Is there any way to know which is the linux boot partition out of all the partitions I am seeing??
[11:05] <rudolf_> http://i62.tinypic.com/24fz29i.png   <-- Partitions
[11:06] <daftykins> boot a live session and it'll be more useful
[11:06] <indistylo> I was doing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tibla5fSqM, My global folder has been deleted, What command can i use to do complete clean removal and installation of python-virtualenv, i tried sudo apt-get --reinstall install python-virtualenv, its output  > http://paste.ubuntu.com/12678843/
[11:06] <daftykins> i'm kinda laughing at how mickey mouse that windows prog looks XD
[11:06] <indistylo> global folder is not appearing in my home directory after installation
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> j #ubuntu-discuss
[11:09] <DosTuMai> O_o
[11:09] <rudolf_> No suggestions?
[11:09] <daftykins> yes i made mine already
[11:10] <rudolf_> Ah...sorry daftykins I missed it. You dint mention my name.
[11:10] <daftykins> no, i cunningly rely upon the attention of the recipient :D
[11:10] <indistylo> daftykins, any suggestions
[11:10] <daftykins> no
[11:11] <indistylo> last time you directed me that it was related to django-python.
[11:11] <rudolf_> daftykins: So is there a way to know my boot partition through a live session?
[11:11] <daftykins> mmm i dunno about that given i don't do dev of any kind.
[11:11] <indistylo> daftykins, ?
[11:11] <daftykins> rudolf_: yeah.
[11:12] <rudolf_> How? I just know fdisk to see the linux partitions.
[11:12] <daftykins> !bootrepair
[11:12] <daftykins> that little sucker can give a shedload of info
[11:12] <rudolf_> or fdisk -l works?
[11:12] <rudolf_> Okies
[11:12] <daftykins> you'll know once you boot in.
[11:13] <daftykins> but if you have 10 installed as legacy along with ubuntu, you just need to reinstall grub to the whole disk anyway
[11:13] <rudolf_> Ok..will try it. Thanks
[11:14] <DosTuMai> Is there a way to pastebin system spec?
[11:14] <bazhang> pastebinit DosTuMai
[11:15] <daftykins> bits and pieces, depends what you want
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> DosTuMai  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:15] <DosTuMai> Just the basics - CPU, GPU, RAM.
[11:16] <daftykins> you guys missed the point entirely, we're being asked HOW to obtain _system info_
[11:16] <bazhang> sudo lshw | pastebinit DosTuMai
[11:17] <bazhang> dmidecode if you wish DosTuMai
[11:17] <DosTuMai> Oh great, had to be such an obvious command! Okidoki, I'm off to reboot brain with a large hammer, I think...
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> DosTuMai  or inxi -CGM
[11:18] <daftykins> DosTuMai: better yet would be to look things up online before asking here in future
[11:18] <DosTuMai> I tried google, and had no joy. Probably putting the search string in badly.
[11:18] <daftykins> if i had a local unit of currency for every time...
[11:19] <bazhang> daftykins, just dont answer if you cannot be bothered to help
[11:20] <daftykins> bazhang: that's not the point here, and i know this user from another channel, so back off
[11:21] <bazhang> daftykins, take some time off, or just dont answer, this is not the redirect to google channel, ever
[11:21] <bazhang> or website
[11:21] <daftykins> bazhang: at least i read the question.
[11:22] <daftykins> and yep, i know the rules.
[11:22] <bazhang> follow them
[11:22] <daftykins> oh shut up
[11:29] <creed_> Hello. I have upgraded to 15.04 from 14.04 and my audio does not work anymore. I have reinstalled alsa-base and pulseaudio. did not work and now the control panel seems broken as well. Anyone a guess, how I can fix this problem?
[11:31] <Guest93546> hello, by mistake i defragmented my windows which corrupted grub. now i have started it using grub resuce commands. but unable to fix it permanently. update-grub and reinstallation of grub is not working
[11:31] <EriC^^> Guest93546: that's odd, if you get grub rescue then i guess grub is in the mbr
[11:32] <EriC^^> Guest93546: do you have a live usb?
[11:32] <bekks> Guest93546: Windows defragmnentation does not affect grub. Do you use wubi?
[11:33] <cfhowlett> Guest93546, is this a "windows installer" installation
[11:34] <badbodh> Guest93546: this isn't a place to troll either
[11:34] <badbodh> cfhowlett: he was trolling in mint channel moments ago
[11:34] <bekks> badbodh: thanks for that hont.
[11:34] <cfhowlett> badbodh, ah, well. easy fix.  he gets added to my /ignore!  thanks for the heads up.
[11:35] <badbodh> " i defragmented my windows which corrupted grub" :D
[11:37] <cfhowlett> wait, are switching nicks now?
[11:38] <Guest93546> EriC^^, when i try to start linux it enters in grub rescue mode. now i used set prefix and insmod normal command and succesfully booted. now how can i fix my grub
[11:38] <Guest96937> :(
[11:39] <bazhang> Guest96937, pastebin sources.list please
[11:39] <bekks> Guest93546: Since it actually ENTERS grub, grub cant be corrupted.
[11:39] <badbodh> like i said buddy, create a live usb/cd and run grub-install followed by chroot and update-grub
[11:39] <bekks> badbodh: No need to fix a working grub.
[11:39] <bazhang> rahul_, lsb_release -a as well
[11:39] <badbodh> bekks: yeah well, just scratching the itch :)
[11:40] <rahul_> bekks, how do i fix it then tried reinstalling grub and update-grub command both not working
[11:40] <Guest96937> can't run a .jar file :( saying that "Error: Could not find or load main class" :(
[11:40] <bekks> rahul_: You dont need to fix grub, since grub is not the issue.
[11:40] <bazhang> rahul_, what version of ubuntu
[11:41] <rahul_> bazhang, 14.04
[11:41] <bazhang> !version | rahul_
[11:41] <Guest96937> but in windows os (7, 8, 8.1, 10), and linux kali sana 2.0 , the jar has run successfully
[11:42] <rahul_> bekks, if grub isn't broken then why it entere rescue mode everytime i rrestart
[11:44] <Guest96937> but in ubuntu mate 15.04 jar is not running
[11:44] <Guest96937> even I can't compile my project in ubuntu
[11:44] <bekks> rahul_: Because the configuration that you are trying to boot is broken, like a broken graphics driver, etc.
[11:45] <Guest96937> I have tried possible ways to run the .jar, .class, .java
[11:45] <bekks> Guest96937: Define "not running", and tell us how you start "the jar".
[11:46] <rahul_> bekks, okay, but how do i fix it.
[11:46] <bekks> rahul_: By telling us as much details as possible what happens when you try to boot to normal mode.
[11:46] <axwhy> hi, vmware and ubuntu is not compartible? why no unity mode on ubuntu host?
[11:46] <vvH1p|a5h> Someone could please suggest me a program that downloads vides from a stream source? I just want to save this superb doc (https://youtu.be/U1Qt6a-vaNM) before they strike down.
[11:47] <cfhowlett> !youtube-dl | vvH1p|a5h
[11:47] <bekks> axwhy: Because unity requires real 3D hardware, which a vm doesnt provide.
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> axwhy  i have 15.04 unity in vmware, it's lsow, but it works
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> slow
[11:47] <vvH1p|a5h> Thaks very much cfhowlett
[11:47] <eagles0513875_> hey guys im running dd on some of my hard disks how can i monitor the progress?
[11:47] <ioria> !info youtube-dl
[11:48] <rahul_> bekks, when i start my pc i am presented with grub rescue window. where i execute set prefix command and insmod normal, normal command. it displays normal ubuntu boot menu and ubuntu boots from there.
[11:48] <axwhy> oh thanks man,, what about virtualbox seemless mode?
[11:48] <DosTuMai> 12:47 < daftykins> eagles0513875_: kill -USR1 $PID_of_dd
[11:49] <Guest96937> bekks: java -jar /path file.jar
[11:49] <eagles0513875_> DosTuMai: what if i do not have it running
[11:49] <DosTuMai> Umm...
[11:49] <r_rios> Hello
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> axwhy  if you plan to try vbox a lot, try vagrant, it's really handy
[11:50] <Guest96937> bekks: to compile java file I used -> javac /path file.java
[11:50] <eagles0513875_> DosTuMai: let me try it as you said
[11:50] <r_rios> Am I allowed to distribute some Ubuntu shared libraries along with an application I'm developing?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> see the gnu license r_rios
[11:50] <r_rios> In my specific case, I want to distribute my application bundled with libstdc++
[11:50] <DosTuMai> eagles0513875_: The progress will be very little if it's not running.
[11:51] <axwhy> can i install visual studio in vargant?
[11:51] <Guest96937> bekks: to compile the .class I used -> java -cp /path packagename.file
[11:51] <eagles0513875_> DosTuMai:  its working what you said above :)
[11:51] <Guest96937> but nothing works in ubuntu :(
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> axwhy  vagrant uses vbox, so the question is, if you can use visual studio in vbox
[11:51] <eagles0513875_> thanks DosTuMai  :)
[11:52] <eagles0513875_> will have lunch in the mean time
[11:52] <DosTuMai> You're welcome. =]
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> axwhy  http://www.vagrantbox.es/
[12:01] <vvH1p|a5h> Guys, I installed youtube-dl, but now I can't start it because I don't find the launcher. I'm a newbie and I normally try on the search computer and internet button and type the name of the program that I want run. But it does't appear in the results, I'm having problems with other's think that I would use but can't find like the control panel (or something like that, excuse me for the proprietary term kkk)
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> vvH1p|a5h  youtube-dl is command line tool
[12:01] <vvH1p|a5h> how do I execute?
[12:02] <cfhowlett> vvH1p|a5h, man youtube-dl will tell you all you need
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> vvH1p|a5h  in a terminal, type   youtube -t [youtube url]
[12:02] <vvH1p|a5h> Thank you
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> vvH1p|a5h  like so    youtube-dl -t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk7OBuoK7ig
[12:04] <SopaAlt> Hi, card reader not working on 15.04. Device: 03:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5209 PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01), dmesg: mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[12:08] <ioria> SopaAlt, you can try to download from here your 5209 driver (http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=15&PFid=25&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false) and follow this   : http://askubuntu.com/questions/492476/internal-sd-card-reader-not-mounted-detected-hp-realtek-rts5227
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> !discuss > ioria we need a 4th guy to plat poker
[12:11] <mjayk> I have an unknown device in my additiona drivers list currently set to do not use this device but i can select processor microcode firmware for intel CPU's should I install this ?
[12:15] <kostkon> mjayk, http://askubuntu.com/q/613579/1651
[12:17] <mjayk> kostkon: thanks for that, everything seams to be running well so i think ill leave it untill i have some time to do some proper reading
[12:23] <kame_> hi
[12:23] <Guest95059> hi
[12:23] <rts-> Hello, my local postfix instance is bombing itself with a undelivered message email, how can I stop this? I have cleared the mail queue and its still coming in every single minute, of every hour, of every day?
[12:24] <kame_> can somebody recommend a easy to use diff-software for ubuntu
[12:24] <kame_> ?
[12:24] <rts-> kame_ diff software?
[12:24] <kame_> to show the difference of to source codes
[12:24] <cfhowlett> kame_, open a terminal: man diff
[12:25] <rts-> kame_ from command line the diff utility is standard.. if you are looking for a GUI application there are several packages available...
[12:25] <kame_> a GUI would be gould
[12:25] <mocxz> hello guys
[12:25] <lord4163> kame_: meld
[12:25] <kame_> good*
[12:25] <kame_> thank you
[12:26] <kubast2> Hey how is libmcrypt package called in ubuntu ?
[12:26] <rts-> kame_ what kind of code are you comparing? are you comparing PHP/HTML or looking for something that will help with C, C++ etc
[12:26] <kubast2> it's called like that in arch linux ,but I need to get xsdm working under ubuntu/linux mint
[12:26] <kame_> soLucien: its quick, and an allrounder :)rts- C#
[12:27] <kame_> rts- C
[12:27] <kubast2> libmcrypt-dev nvm
[12:29] <rts-> kame_ try out Anjuta, Code::Blocks, Geany, or Sublime Text 2
[12:30] <rts-> or the old standard vim
[12:30] <kame_> rts-: ty
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> hi BluesKaj
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hi lotuspsychje
[12:40] <dhsgdi> Hi
[12:40] <SCHAAP137> hello
[12:40] <dhsgdi> Do you know which wifi card should support this slot http://m.imgur.com/HjpQmGF ?
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> SCHAAP137: good afternoon
[12:40] <SCHAAP137> yo lotuspsychje
[12:41] <BluesKaj> oops desktop froze, plasma 5.4.2 is till in devel on 15.10
[12:41] <BluesKaj> still
[12:43]  * BluesKaj checks logs
[12:46] <SCHAAP137> 15.10 beta runs nicely here
[12:47] <khax> When is 15.10 released?
[12:49] <creed_> hey. I do have an nv34 and want to install the correct driver for 15.04. I have installed nvidia-current but Im experiancing a fallback to the loginscreen when trying to login to the gui. any recommendations?
[12:50] <amcsi> hi
[12:51] <amcsi> how do I turn my ubuntu back into a clean install packagewise? Many packages don't install anymore due to stuff like: Depends: python-glade2 but it is not going to be installed
[12:52] <zhongfu> amcsi: what does `apt-get install python-glade2` show
[12:52] <auronandace> amcsi: first step is identify any repos you are using that are not standard
[12:52] <ioria> amcsi  ppa , for example
[12:52] <amcsi> zhongfu, The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[12:52] <amcsi>  python-glade2 : Depends: python-gtk2 (= 2.24.0-3ubuntu3) but 2.24.0-3ubuntu4 is to be installed
[12:53] <auronandace> amcsi: /etc/apt/sources.list will show you what you have enabled
[12:53] <mauro_> comodo ela qua?
[12:54] <mauro_> ghe nelo qualche figheira ?
[12:54] <amcsi> audictive, https://gist.github.com/amcsi/0d364e3f0c888bf9469c
[12:54] <zhongfu> amcsi: how about the others in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[12:55] <ioria> amcsi  you have a mix there utopic, trusty and vivid
[12:55] <auronandace> amcsi: utopic is 14.10, no longer supported
[12:56] <amcsi> zhongfu, https://gist.github.com/amcsi/0d364e3f0c888bf9469c#file-sources-list-d
[12:56] <amcsi> auronandace, but I'm on ubuntu 15.04 O_o
[12:57] <amcsi> somehow it looks like the sources.list wasn't updated correctly
[12:57] <zhongfu> amcsi: python-glade2 2.24.0-3ubuntu3 needs python-gtk2 2.24.0-3ubuntu3, but for some reason you have python-glade2=2.24.0-3ubuntu3 and python-gtk2=2.24.0-3ubuntu4
[12:57] <zhongfu> -3ubuntu3 is from trusty/utopic, -3ubuntu4 is from vivid
[12:57] <zhongfu> go into your sources.list and replace all instances of "trusty" with "vivid"
[12:57] <amcsi> can I see a clean sources.list file for ubuntu 15.04 please?
[12:58] <zhongfu> oops
[12:58] <amcsi> you mean utopic with vivid?
[12:58] <zhongfu> yeah
[12:58] <zhongfu> it's kind of weird that you're running vivid but all your package lists are utopic ones
[12:59] <zhongfu> anyway just replace utopic with vivid, apt-get update and try again
[12:59] <amcsi> thanks guys! it all works now
[12:59] <zhongfu> just curious, how did you upgrade it?
[13:02] <easyOnMe> hello people just need some help here
[13:04] <easyOnMe> my ubuntu 14.04 keeps on popping up a message system problem detected
[13:04] <easyOnMe> I wonder what is the problem as I already run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade as well as sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:05] <easyOnMe> can anyone around please help
[13:05] <auronandace> easyOnMe: it usually offers an option to see more details, without those details we can't really help
[13:06] <easyOnMe> auronandace: the thing is that it only ask for my password to authenticate error reporting
[13:06] <easyOnMe> it did not offer any option at all
[13:06] <auronandace> easyOnMe: perhaps you didn't notice it
[13:07] <easyOnMe> auronandace: no there was nothing
[13:07] <auronandace> easyOnMe: next time it happens take a screenshot
[13:07] <easyOnMe> auronandace: it usually pops up everytime I boot up my laptop
[13:08] <easyOnMe> it shows up
[13:09] <auronandace> easyOnMe: without the extra info it would be like going to a garage "fix my car" "what's wrong with it" "it's broken"
[13:09] <easyOnMe> auronandace: ok
[13:09] <easyOnMe> but is it possible that the error just pops up even though the error has already be solved
[13:10] <easyOnMe> the last time I had this problem someone told me to delete something from the error reporting log and this will stop from popping up a message
[13:10] <auronandace> easyOnMe: sounds like they told you to disable apport, which just stops the message popping up, it doesn't fix anything
[13:11] <easyOnMe> auronandace: yup that's it apport
[13:11] <easyOnMe> do you think it is a better approach
[13:11] <easyOnMe> or is there a way we can diagnose any issues with my ubuntu
[13:11] <auronandace> easyOnMe: if you like the "lalala i'm not listening approach" then go ahead
[13:12] <eagles0513875_> !skype
[13:13] <auronandace> easyOnMe: it is difficult to diagnose something if you don't know what the problem is
[13:13] <easyOnMe> alright
[13:13] <easyOnMe> is there any command we can use to maybe make ubuntu perform any diagnostic check
[13:14] <easyOnMe> just like those commands that windows use is there something similar in ubuntu
[13:15] <auronandace> easyOnMe: it could be anything, where would you like to start?
[13:16] <easyOnMe> anywhere we can where would you suggest though
[13:17] <auronandace> easyOnMe: until we know the nature of the problem we will be stabbing wildly in the dark. would you like to fsck the filesystem?
[13:18] <easyOnMe> yup but firstly who does that work and what does it do
[13:18] <easyOnMe> how does that work sorry
[13:18] <easyOnMe> and what is the command on the terminal
[13:18] <auronandace> !fsck | easyOnMe
[13:20] <easyOnMe> ok will do that now
[13:23] <EriC^^> easyOnMe: if you want to stop those messages from coming you can use xdiagnose
[13:23] <EriC^^> easyOnMe: dash > xdiagnose then remove the error reporting
[13:25] <easyOnMe> EriC^^: but like auronandace said it really does not solve any problem if indeed there is a problem
[13:25] <ikonia> neither will blindly running fsck
[13:31] <gvvg> Hi I have a vm (vmware ) running Ubuntu 14.04.3 - I have resized (enlarged the primary hd from 100GB to 250GB in vmware - I would like to ask if anyone could help me use resize2fs to enlarge /dev/sda1 to use the new size - it says "The filesystem is already 25952256 blocks long.  Nothing to do!" when I do "resize2fs /dev/sda1
[13:31] <EriC^^> gvvg: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:31] <gvvg> EriC^^: what does that do?
[13:32] <EriC^^> list the disk size and partitions
[13:32] <gvvg> what is nc termbin.com 9999 ?
[13:32] <ikonia> so people can see it
[13:32] <EriC^^> it pastebins it
[13:32] <cfhowlett> and returns a url with the pastie which you show us
[13:32] <nos09> I am trying to install kodi from source. but when i do apt-get build-dep kodi it says no package found.
[13:32] <nos09> i have install ppa for xbmc
[13:33] <ikonia> because there is no package
[13:33] <gvvg> http://termbin.com/ry01
[13:33] <gvvg> so cool
[13:33] <gvvg> I want /dev/sda1 to have the extra space
[13:33] <ikonia> so extend it
[13:33] <erwin_> I just did the command sudo fckdsk
[13:33] <ikonia> but I suspect you will struggle
[13:33] <EriC^^> gvvg: i think you need to delete the swap first, then extend the partition
[13:33] <gvvg> delete using fdisk?
[13:33] <ikonia> as there is an extended partition after it
[13:33] <EriC^^> gvvg: type sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[13:34] <ikonia> you've made a random 1Gb extended partition that will block the primary
[13:34] <EriC^^> gvvg: delete the swap partition, then delete the first partition
[13:34] <EriC^^> and recreate it at the same starting sector
[13:35] <EriC^^> but larger, then create the swap after it
[13:35] <easyOnMe> auronandace: I just did the fckdsk
[13:35] <easyOnMe> and my laptop just had a reboot
[13:35] <easyOnMe> this is the screenshot that you wanted to me to take
[13:35] <EriC^^> gvvg: if you want type sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda first to get a list of where the partitions start for backup
[13:35] <easyOnMe> http://imgur.com/0C9IaDP
[13:36] <easyOnMe> auronandace: http://imgur.com/0C9IaDP that is the screenshot
[13:36] <EriC^^> gvvg: it would probably be a good idea to take a snapshot of the vm before the operation
[13:36] <gvvg> now I only have 1 partition http://termbin.com/ytvi but I still can't do the resize2fs - same error
[13:37] <ikonia> gvvg: the partition has not change
[13:37] <ikonia> changed
[13:37] <ikonia> so why would you resize the OS
[13:37] <auronandace> easyOnMe: what do you see when you click report problem?
[13:37] <easyOnMe> auronandace: let me check that one now
[13:38] <gvvg> ikonia: yes it only shows 1 partition for /dev/sda now
[13:38] <ikonia> gvvg: right, and that partition is 100GB
[13:38] <ikonia> so you can't extend the file system bigger than the partition
[13:38] <gvvg> ikonia: yes and I want it to use the 250GB
[13:38] <ikonia> so extend the partition
[13:38] <ikonia> not the file system
[13:38] <gvvg> oh sorry how do I do that?
[13:39] <gvvg> sorry I didn't see the obvious
[13:39] <ikonia> any partition tools
[13:39] <ikonia> keep in mind - you're using the partition, so you shouldn't alter it while it's in use
[13:39] <gvvg> hmmm not sure how to do that
[13:40] <auronandace> gvvg: boot a live image and use gparted
[13:40] <gvvg> ok after the snapshot - I will boot gparted - resize the partition and then run resize2fs - does that sound sane?
[13:40] <easyOnMe> auronandace: http://imgur.com/sPXsTAI
[13:41] <easyOnMe> that is what it gives me when I clicked report the problem
[13:41] <auronandace> easyOnMe: notice the details dropbox thingy
[13:41] <EriC^> gvvg: are you doing this from a live session?
[13:42] <gvvg> EriC^: yes I now understand that I need to resize the partition after rebooting into a livecd
[13:42] <EriC^> ok
[13:42] <gvvg> thanks everyone - sorry I was completely not understanding the issue
[13:42] <easyOnMe> after I gave my password this is what it gave me back
[13:42] <gvvg> how long should a resize of a partition take? how risky is it?
[13:42] <easyOnMe> http://imgur.com/Nc7aCWX
[13:43] <EriC^> gvvg: i think it shouldn't take long
[13:43] <auronandace> easyOnMe: no, on the screen that it asks you to give your password you can click the little arrow by the word details, which would show you more details of the problem detected
[13:43] <EriC^> no idea how risky, if you have important data you should take a snapshot anyways
[13:43] <gvvg> EriC^: ok thanks
[13:44] <EriC^> dealing with partitions and stuff, you never know
[13:44] <EriC^> gvvg: no problem
[13:44] <auronandace> easyOnMe: and even on the screenshot you just posted there is a show details button you can click
[13:44] <creed> Hello. Does anyone know how to get a graphics card driver nvidia installed for an nv34 fx5200 nvidia chip? I cannot login to linux since it always throws me back to the login screen and when I login, its unusable slow.
[13:44] <easyOnMe> auronandace: yup here it goes
[13:44] <easyOnMe> http://imgur.com/q2vS7yk
[13:44] <easyOnMe> auronandace: what shall I do now
[13:45] <auronandace> easyOnMe: now we know it's teamviewer that is acting up
[13:45] <auronandace> easyOnMe: unfortunately that means you'll have to ask them how to fix it
[13:46] <auronandace> easyOnMe: we can't support software that was installed from outside the repos
[13:46] <auronandace> easyOnMe: and teamviewer is closed-source which makes it a little harder to fix
[13:47] <ss942> Is it possible to install irssi without acessing root?
[13:47] <ss942> I'm working on ubuntu at school's pc
[13:48] <auronandace> ss942: you require sudo to install anything
[13:49] <ss942> auronandace: I'm not administrator, I'm not in sudoers
[13:49] <auronandace> ss942: then you can't install software
[13:49] <ss942> auronandace: can't I compile something and run?
[13:50] <easyOnMe> auronandace: noted with thanks man
[13:51] <easyOnMe> at least that gives me some degree of assurance
[13:51] <easyOnMe> so it is just teamviewer no other issues right
[13:51] <auronandace> easyOnMe: at least we identified the issue, sorry we couldn't fix it
[13:51] <easyOnMe> auronandace: no problem man
[13:52] <easyOnMe> at least we know the issue and it has got nothing to do with ubuntu
[13:52] <easyOnMe> that for me is comforting
[13:52] <easyOnMe> at least my ubuntu is in good health that is all I care about
[13:52] <easyOnMe> thanks fellas
[13:52] <easyOnMe> this chatroom really rocks
[13:52] <easyOnMe> kudos ubuntu
[13:52] <easyOnMe> see everyone
[13:52] <easyOnMe> bye
[13:54] <anonim79> hay
[13:54] <Fr0Zn> hi anonim79
[13:54] <anonim79> where are u from frozn ??
[13:56] <ss942> I just compiled and probably installed irssi
[13:56] <ss942> and what after:
[13:56] <ss942> make install --prefix=/home/dir
[13:57] <ss942> I'm typing irssi at commend line and it doesn't see it
[13:57] <Fr0Zn> ss942: bash shell?
[13:57] <ss942> yes
[13:57] <Fr0Zn> ss942: check for PATH
[14:00] <godbod>  Hello all, is still Ubuntu a South African Operating System ?
[14:01] <Kosmoz> I don't think so
[14:01] <zhongfu> well, there's the ubuntu thing, but otherwise, no
[14:01] <Seveas> godbod: it never was.
[14:07] <f4lc0n_l4w> Hi!
[14:07] <Fr0Zn> f4lc0n_l4w: hi
[14:07] <desmondjardo> hello
[14:07] <khax> hi
[14:08] <f4lc0n_l4w> some one have suggestion for setting ubuntu on top? because i'm an Artist
[14:08] <khax> artiste ?
[14:08] <f4lc0n_l4w> i use ubuntu studio distro
[14:08] <khax> nice
[14:08] <f4lc0n_l4w> but some app is useless for me
[14:09] <ikonia> ubuntu studio is an audio distro
[14:09] <desmondjardo> wikipedia shows that it's for more than audio
[14:10] <ikonia> it can do more than just audio
[14:10] <ikonia> but if you're honest, that's what it's used for
[14:10] <ikonia> the graphics stuff is just the same as in ubuntu
[14:10] <ikonia> so there is no real benifit to it
[14:11] <f4lc0n_l4w> i understand
[14:12] <f4lc0n_l4w> well i have installed on my pc for work. i need just help for what program i need unistall, and sry for my bad english.
[14:12] <ikonia> f4lc0n_l4w: what's the problem ?
[14:14] <f4lc0n_l4w> ikonia: help for how unistall program
[14:14] <ikonia> uninstall what program ?
[14:18] <f4lc0n_l4w> audio software
[14:22] <Fr0Zn> :wc
[14:22] <Fr0Zn> ups XD
[14:24] <Dudytz> hi all, I trying to fix a problem with my keybindins, I do no what is happening, but now when I press ALT+F4 ... or ALT+LEFT/RIGHT, my console is changed to another TTY ... before the console changes only on CTRL+ALT+F[1 to 8] ... how to fix this and disable the ALT+F4 and ALT+LEFT/RIGHT?
[14:24] <Dudytz> PS: I am using Ubuntu 15.04
[14:25] <m1dnight> Hello guys, I just installed ubutnu server 14 and Im having the locale issues.
[14:26] <m1dnight> I have applied the solution that is most given online but it doenst work.
[14:26] <cfhowlett> !server | m1dnight
[14:26] <m1dnight> I guess this doesnt matter which distro it is?
[14:26] <m1dnight> oh well. To there then.
[14:29] <Quantumpants> guys i cant open the software centre
[14:31] <xubunto> my computer seems to be acting strange
[14:32] <xubunto> i interupted a boot process and now i am getting commandline with corrupted file permissions\
[14:32] <cfhowlett> you interrupted a boot process.  of course it's acting up!
[14:32] <xubunto> how do i fix it
[14:32] <xubunto> i have tried rebooting and nothing is being restored
[14:32] <cfhowlett> stop killing boot processed and allow it to proceed without your help
[14:33] <xubunto> ive done that
[14:33] <xubunto> 3 times
[14:34] <xubunto> cfhowlett: any otherideas
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !details | xubunto,
[14:35] <xubunto> cfhowlett: I was booting my windows drive and accidentally interuppted its boot process
[14:36] <foot_massage> ugh
[14:36] <Quantumpants> can i remove software from the terminal as i cant open the software centre
[14:36] <cfhowlett> windows?  WINDOWS?  this ain't windows support.  ask ##windows.
[14:36] <King_Hual> Quantumpants: apt
[14:36] <xubunto> when i switch in my xubuntu drive it started to do wierd shit
[14:36] <cfhowlett> Quantos, yes
[14:36] <foot_massage> wait, do we have a windows fag here?
[14:36] <foot_massage> get outta here nigger
[14:36] <cfhowlett> !ops | foot_massage,
[14:36] <foot_massage> this is ubuntu onl
[14:36] <xubunto> i am using a damned xubuntu drive
[14:36] <cfhowlett> xubunto, ignore the troll.  focus
[14:37] <foot_massage> wtf
[14:37] <foot_massage> I'm just using regular internet speak
[14:37] <cfhowlett> how exactly did you install ubuntu?
[14:37] <foot_massage> don't start
[14:37] <xubunto> i used a usb stick
[14:37] <cfhowlett> and installed next to windows?
[14:37] <xubunto> no
[14:37] <cfhowlett> ...
[14:37] <xubunto> 2 separate physical hard drives
[14:38] <xubunto> i was running windows because skype sucks on xubuntu
[14:38] <cfhowlett> ah.  something I've never done so I can't advise.  someone else in channel will know.
[14:38] <yuri_> bgfb
[14:38] <yuri_> b
[14:38] <yuri_> ciao
[14:38] <Quantumpants> can anybody give me the terminal code to delete software?
[14:39] <cfhowlett> Quantumpants, sudo apt-get purge packagename
[14:39] <Quantumpants> thanks
[14:39] <foot_massage> Quantumpants: larry page invented this amazing service called google
[14:40] <xubunto> is there some way i can restore this machine
[14:40] <xubunto> i do not have write permissions any more
[14:54] <xubunto> how do i restore boot
[14:54] <zaki> 25
[14:55] <Jarppi> Hey does anyone know how can i suggest new icon for Ubuntu MATE?
[14:56] <pauljw> xubunto: i'm not an expert but if it were me, i would reinstall the windows drive and see if i could get it to boot, then do a proper shutdown of windows.  restart it one more time to insure it came up normally then shut it down and install my ubuntu disk and see if would then boot as normal.  if that doesn't work i'm out of ideas.
[14:57] <xubunto> i tried that pauljw
[14:58] <_arktos_> cd Softz*
[14:58] <pauljw> xubunto: and what werre the results
[14:58] <xubunto> i am still here
[14:58] <pauljw> i see that, did windows ever load properly?
[14:59] <xubunto> yes
[14:59] <Jarppi> Hey does anyone know how can i suggest new icon for Ubuntu MATE?
[14:59] <Jarppi> Hey does anyone know how can i suggest new icon for Ubuntu MATE?
[14:59] <ioria> xubunto, what happens when you boot your machine ?
[14:59] <pauljw> xubunto: okay, so now linux is hanging, you said you have tried 3x to boot linux, how are rebooting?
[15:00] <_arktos_> Jarppi : No
[15:02] <xubunto> pauljw: linux didnt hang
[15:02] <xubunto> the drive is corrupted
[15:03] <pauljw> oh, well good luck then, over my head.
[15:03] <ioria> xubunto, you mean you cannot boot neither win or ubuntu ?
[15:03] <xubunto> xubuntu boots
[15:03] <xubunto> permissions were all fried
[15:04] <xubunto> essentially only have reads
[15:04] <xubunto> making a backup of what i cam from the home directory
[15:04] <xubunto> fully expecting that i will have to do a reinstall
[15:06] <ioria> xubunto, fsck http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/fsck.8.html
[15:08] <adroit_machine> I want to create a new administrator account on ubuntu but whenever I set password the "change" button is greyed out. Need help please!!
[15:09] <xubunto> ioria:how do i run that
[15:12] <EriC^^> adroit_machine: is the account enabled?
[15:12] <adroit_machine> EriC^^, yes account is enabled
[15:13] <EriC^^> adroit_machine: ok, type grep <user> /etc/passwd
[15:13] <EriC^^> in a terminal
[15:13] <adroit_machine> EriC^^, no I''m sorry account is showing disabled in password field
[15:14] <EriC^^> adroit_machine: ok, try enabling it
[15:14] <adroit_machine> EriC^^, I'm not able to enable the account without password
[15:14] <EriC^^> an :x: in the password field is normal
[15:14] <AndroidAutomatic> cat /etc/passwd | grep <user>
[15:14] <adroit_machine> EriC^^, whenever I click "enable this account" it reverts back to account disabled
[15:15] <EriC^^> adroit_machine: ok, paste grep <user> /etc/passwd
[15:15] <zykotick9> AndroidAutomatic: see EriC^^'s grep line for a better use of grep, and no useless use of cat
[15:16] <adroit_machine> EriC^^, ok
[15:17] <Kartagis> I have a ppa added and the software in that ppa was updated. how do I force update from that ppa? --reinstall is not of use to me
[15:17] <adroit_machine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12680598/ , EriC^^
[15:18] <EriC^^> adroit_machine: ok, type id ubuntu and paste
[15:18] <adroit_machine> EriC^^, paste where?
[15:18] <AndroidAutomatic> in the bin
[15:18] <AndroidAutomatic> pastebin ;)
[15:19] <adroit_machine> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12680616/
[15:20] <EriC^^> adroit_machine: ok, last paste "sudo grep root /etc/shadow | cut -c1-10"
[15:20] <EriC^^> sorry, typo, sudo grep ubuntu /etc/shadow | cut -c1-10
[15:21] <adroit_machine> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12680626/
[15:22] <EriC^^> adroit_machine: ok, type sudo passwd ubuntu
[15:22] <EriC^^> set the new password
[15:22] <EriC^^> then try sudo login ubuntu
[15:22] <adroit_machine> it says password updated successfully, EriC^^
[15:23] <adroit_machine> EriC^^, yes it is working now i'm in the ubuntu user terminal
[15:23] <adroit_machine> EriC^^, thanks a lot
[15:23] <EriC^^> adroit_machine: no problem :)
[15:24] <MarconM> its possible to get ubuntu-dev ?
[15:24] <MarconM> like unity 8
[15:27] <BitNova> Hi guys, im having an issue with apcupsd on ESXI 6.0, i have installed the latest version of ubuntu server 14.04 as VM and it has detected the UPS and all, i have created the doshutdown script in /etc/apcupsd with the following
[15:27] <BitNova> #!/bin/sh
[15:27] <BitNova> export HOME=/home/USER
[15:27] <BitNova> plink -ssh -2 -pw password root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx "/sbin/shutdown.sh && /sbin/poweroff"
[15:27] <BitNova> exit 99
[15:27] <BitNova> It works when i have logged into the VM and only if i have restarted the apcupsd, then it picks it up and shuts down the VM's and then ESXI server, but when i start up the ESXI and VM's again, without logging into ubuntu VM - if i trip the power again, it wont detect the power failure and it wont initiate shutdown. ive noticed it will only do this once i log into ubuntu and THEN restart the apcupsd, ONLY then it invokes the doshutdown script.  any thoug
[15:27] <BitNova> hts why this is happening?
[15:29] <mat1c> hi all - hoping for some help with a keyboard issue - with a few keys especially w and the arrows it genereates ghost keypresses. It happened when I accidentaly disabled the wrong input from the terminal. It has persisted through restarts. Fine in windows. Internal laptop keyboard. Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated!
[15:36] <xubunto> I have a ext4 external bootable drive but fsck.ext4 doesnt seem to want to look at it
[15:40] <EriC^^> xubunto: why are you trying to fsck it?
[15:41] <xubunto> EriC^^: it got corrupted
[15:41] <xubunto> i am letting the program repair what it can
[15:42] <EriC^^> xubunto: hard disk or filesystem corruption?
[15:42] <xubunto> seems like hte physical drive is intact
[15:42] <lakamis> hi
[15:42] <EriC^^> xubunto: try sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX to check the physical drive
[15:42] <lakamis> im installed ubuntu but i write my pass but icannt login?
[15:43] <EriC^^> if it's going bad jump ships quickly
[15:43] <lakamis> repeat want ne pass
[15:43] <lakamis> ACPI PPC Probe failed ?
[15:43] <EriC^^> lakamis: does it say wrong password? or it logs in for a bit then gives you the login screen back?
[15:43] <xubunto> EriC^^:program not found
[15:43] <xubunto> i can read the files just fine
[15:43] <EriC^^> xubunto: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[15:44] <xubunto> EriC^^:should mention i am working from an install disk right now
[15:45] <xubunto> i may be able ot stand a full linux if i really should do so
[15:45] <EriC^^> xubunto: it's no problem
[15:45] <xubunto> should i let fsck continue?
[15:45] <EriC^^> after it installs, type sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:46] <xubunto> it didnt install
[15:46] <EriC^^> i'd check it first, if it's going bad, image it or something, if the information is important to you
[15:46] <EriC^^> why not?
[15:46] <EriC^^> !info smartmontools
[15:46] <xubunto> herpyderp
[15:46] <xubunto> its offline
[15:47] <xubunto> cant get it online either
[15:47] <xubunto> or at least that is more tricky
[15:48] <EriC^^> no ethernet or wireless?
[15:50] <xubunto> getting a wired connection direct to router
[15:51] <azmoon_> test
[15:51] <EriC^^> pass
[15:51] <ioria> xubunto, and you have no internet access ?
[15:53] <xubunto> got internet
[15:58] <ioria> xubunto, no, i mean you cannot , actually, access internet ?
[16:01] <xubunto> ioria: i got ethernet into a router
[16:01] <xubunto> EriC^^:tons of inodes were damaged by teh windows repair it seems
[16:01] <ioria> xubunto, i got that.. but you can't connect ? can you ping www.google.com ?
[16:02] <EriC^^> xubunto: ok, type sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[16:02] <xubunto> i got smartmontools
[16:02] <ioria> ok
[16:02] <EriC^^> xubunto: ok, type sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:02] <EriC^^> paste the link
[16:03] <xubunto> EriC^^:what does nc do
[16:04] <EriC^^> xubunto: it pastebins the output
[16:08] <Cheery> I'd need Linux 4.1 kernel for trying out things
[16:09] <ioria> !mainline
[16:09] <Cheery> going on 14 LTS now
[16:09] <ibtisam> \join #ita-foss-project
[16:09] <gigitux> Cheery, follow this http://www.yourownlinux.com/2015/08/how-to-install-linux-kernel-4-1-6-in-linux.html
[16:09] <xubunto> brb
[16:10] <mat1tc> hi all - was hoping for some advice fixing my internal keyboard
[16:13] <Cheery> 4.2.3 unstable seems newest
[16:14] <xubunto> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12681173/
[16:16] <Paul^^> hello
[16:16] <EriC^^> xubunto: *shrug*
[16:17] <xubunto> i am going to let fsck finish then
[16:17] <Dan39> using 14.04. the init scripts are kind of confusing me. im use to old sysv or systemd, but it looks like my 14.04 system is using some combination of upstart stuff, and also sysv init scripts, or what?
[16:18] <xubunto> EriC^^:it would seem at first blush that when the windows kernel was trying to recover it did damage to some of the inodes on the linux drive i had put in its place
[16:20] <Dan39> so, does 14.04 support both systems for services? some look to have files in both /etc/init/ and /etc/init.d/ while others only in /etc/init.d/
[16:20] <auronandace> Dan39: starting with 15.04 they fully transitioned to systemd
[16:21] <auronandace> Dan39: but they have some sort of compatibility layer too
[16:21] <Dan39> cool, tho that doesnt help me understand how to manage my 14.04
[16:21] <Dan39> is using 'service x start' good for everything...?
[16:21] <Dan39> or should i be using initctl?
[16:21] <auronandace> Dan39: as far as i know on 14.04 yes, since that still uses upstart
[16:22] <auronandace> !upstart | Dan39
[16:22] <Dan39> yes i know
[16:22] <Dan39> that page doesnt help much tho :p
[16:23] <Dan39> i get what upstart is, it actually sounds nice
[16:23] <Dan39> but im confused as to whats with the old Sys V scripts still be used also
[16:24] <clrae> Hi there I have  a question , is it possible  to install package in ubuntu server  using a usb stick if i don't have a wired connection to install the packege with apt-get ??
[16:24] <auronandace> clrae: yes, but you'd need all the dependencies too
[16:25] <auronandace> !aptoncd | clrae
[16:25] <clrae> auronandace : i only need  to install -lubuntu-desktop , because i want GUI interface
[16:25] <Dan39> it looks like some things in 14.04 dont even have upstart files :|
[16:25] <Dan39> like apache2...
[16:26] <auronandace> clrae: that is a meta-package, it drags in all the dependencies
[16:26] <auronandace> !info lubuntu-desktop | clrae
[16:26] <xubunto> EriC^^: ioria it seems like the fsck worked
[16:26] <ioria> xubunto, good
[16:27] <ioria> clrae, these are deps that you need : http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/lubuntu-desktop
[16:27] <ioria> ^_^
[16:28] <ioria> clrae, better to get a connection ...
[16:29] <clrae> ioria : I really don't have wired , itried to connect to wifi , from the command prompt -but it doesnt connect for some reason
[16:30] <ioria> clrae, you mean, you have a server without connection ? ?_?
[16:30] <Hrxn> hey hey
[16:31] <Paul^^> hellp
[16:31] <Paul^^> hello
[16:31] <tootai> Hello. Did someone get it work to connect a Pi with BerryTerminal to Edubuntu 14.04 ?
[16:31] <Paul^^> I have a parallel printer, but the device /dev/lp* don't exist , the printer go from windows
[16:32] <tootai> I face the hardware error problem in gnome-session like gnome-session[2469]: WARNING: software acceleration check failed: Child process exited with code 1
[16:32] <tootai> gnome-session[2469]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry...
[16:32] <amontalenti> I use swsusp and have an issue where my intel pstate cpufreq driver gets reset to 50% scaling / conservative mode upon resume. I have a shell script that can "fix" it, but I can't figure out how to run a shell script on resume. /etc/pm.d doesn't seem to work. This is on 14.04. Anyone have any hints?
[16:32] <tootai> LTSP thin client, sorry ....
[16:32] <stiv2k> does anybody know how to change the power settings for the login screen... i.e. when to put the display to sleep and when to put the computer to sleep? For some reason the monitor goes to sleep VERY quickly, like in a few seconds, at the login screen
[16:33] <liam> haiiii
[16:33] <liam> hai everybody
[16:33] <Hrxn> hi
[16:33] <ubuntu937> I want to create a backup of my grub config
[16:33] <ubuntu937> I have grub2
[16:34] <clrae> ioria ; i don't mean a server , it's just a mini iso installation , so i have only command prompt , but i actually need a full insatllation of lubuntu , i tried to install the lubuntu  full iso , but i encountered some problem , but with mini iso , i got grub installed , and worked , so now i need to get the full lubuntu-desktop packege
[16:34] <liam> anyone tell me how to install bbm on linux so fast....
[16:34] <auronandace> ubuntu937: cp /boot/grub/grub.cfg /place/you/want/to/backup/to
[16:35] <ubuntu937> auronandace:  okay.. can I put that file on my USB Ubuntu install key?
[16:35] <ubuntu937> auronandace: and whenever my USB key loads it will load the grub  file/
[16:35] <auronandace> ubuntu937: bear in mind that that file is generated from /etc/grub.d/ and the info in /etc/default/grub
[16:35] <clrae> ioria : does it matter which mirror i downlaod lubuntu-desktop from ?
[16:35] <ioria> clrae, if you installed with  mini-iso , you clearly have connection ....
[16:36] <auronandace> ubuntu937: you'd need to install grub to the usb stick
[16:36] <ioria> clrae, it's a net install ...
[16:36] <ubuntu937> auronandace: has grub, doesn't it? how can I check if it is using GRUb or not..? it has a /boot/grub
[16:37] <clrae> ioria: yes i had wifi connection , thats how i installed the base system , but now i don't know how to connect to the wifi from the command line
[16:37] <auronandace> ubuntu937: better consult the docs
[16:37] <auronandace> !grub | ubuntu937
[16:37] <ioria> clrae, right... do you have a  cable ?
[16:37] <ubuntu937> auronandace: thanks...
[16:38] <clrae> ioria : no , only wifi access that is the problem  you see
[16:38] <ioria> clrae, i'am afraid you have to edit by hand /etc/network/interface , for a wifi connection ,
[16:38] <clrae> ioria : so it doesnt matther which mirro i download from ?
[16:39] <ubuntu937> ubottu: I didn't loose the config.. I want to make a backup of my grub2 config that I currently have because I need to do the following: http://askubuntu.com/questions/677245/adding-lvm-from-another-lvm
[16:39] <ioria> clrae, i don't think so ... if it's up
[16:39] <tripelb> I
[16:39] <ubuntu937> ubottu: ohh darn it! thanks..lol!
[16:40] <clrae> ioria : why can't i download  the needed packege to usb and then install it ?
[16:40] <giant_killer> d.net
[16:41] <auronandace> ubuntu937: why do you wnt to preserve the grub2 config of a partition you are going to wipe?
[16:41] <clrae> ioria ; itried this totorial but it didnt get me connected http://blog.tplus1.com/blog/2008/06/13/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-from-the-ubuntu-command-line/
[16:42] <auronandace> clrae: that is from 2008
[16:42] <stiv2k> does anybody know how to change the power settings for the login screen... i.e. when to put the display to sleep and when to put the computer to sleep? For some reason the monitor goes to sleep VERY quickly, like in a few seconds, at the login screen
[16:43] <ioria> clrae, it should look like this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/245806/what-is-the-correct-syntax-for-etc-network-interfaces
[16:43] <ioria> clrae, do you have wpasupplicant installed ?
[16:44] <ubuntu937> auronandace: because that is where my boot is happening right now..
[16:44] <clrae> ioria ; yes but the network has wep encryption
[16:44] <ubuntu937> auronandace: there is no boot happening directly to my disk1
[16:44] <BitNova> does ubuntu mount the root / if the user hasnt logged in yet?
[16:45] <auronandace> ubuntu937: just backup the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file and then enterthe appropriate parts in the new grub at /etc/grub.d/
[16:45] <ioria> clrae, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1495908
[16:46] <auronandace> BitNova: what do you mean? / is always required, that is where the whole system is
[16:46] <BitNova> auronandace, are you familiar with ESXI at all?
[16:47] <auronandace> BitNova: sorry, no
[16:47] <ubuntu937> okay
[16:47] <ubuntu937> auronandace:
[16:47] <ubuntu937> auronandace:
[16:48] <ubuntu937> auronandace: AIYA!.. I forget to type for some reason.. COOL. Thanks..
[16:48] <ioria> clrae, remember to restart the network service
[16:48] <BitNova> auronandace, i want to ssh with plink into esxi to be able to shutdown the esxi server when apcupsd detects power failure, but the script doshutdown which is where i used ssh doesnt run before ubuntu logs in, only after i login ubuntu and then when i restart apcupsd daemon, will it detect that there is a power failure and shutdown my esxi server.
[16:49] <illimar> suht vinge  pask
[16:49] <BitNova> before login, the script runs but doesnt shutdown.. is there a way to see what happened auronandace ?
[16:49] <zobair> hello
[16:49] <auronandace> BitNova: sorry, i'm no server expert
[16:49] <BitNova> like which logs to look at
[16:50] <clrae> ioria ; he didnt provide the command to remove Network Manager , what is it ?
[16:51] <ioria> clrae, i don't know if can run apt-get without connection .... anyway, is sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[16:51] <drag> HI
[16:51] <BitNova> anyone know what logs i can look at when ubuntu uses a script to plink ssh into another system ???
[16:52] <stiv2k> does anybody know how to change the power settings for the login screen... i.e. when to put the display to sleep and when to put the computer to sleep? For some reason the monitor goes to sleep VERY quickly, like in a few seconds, at the login screen
[16:52] <clrae> ioria ; what is the command to restart the network service ?
[16:53] <ioria> clrae, sudo service network restart (or networking)
[16:53] <BitNova> anyone know what logs i can look at when ubuntu uses a script to plink ssh into another system ???
[16:54] <ioria> brb
[16:56] <reselver> Knows somebody an IRC channel for questions concerning U2F?
[16:57] <auronandace> !alis | reselver
[16:57] <giant_killer> BitNova did you cat the auth.log to find something wrong ?
[16:57] <drag> eit
[16:58] <clrae> ioria ; wireless-key s:your5or13characterasciikey , in this command after s: should i put the 10 character key ? or what for exactly ?
[16:59] <clrae> ioria ; in which form hex or the acii
[17:00] <surgy> hello
[17:01] <surgy> i work with arduinos and ubuntu 14.04 lts with unity. i have to open the arduino ide with sudo everytime or else it wont be able to connect to the arduino via usb. how do i set the permissions of all of my usb ports so that any user of this computer can access them?
[17:02] <auronandace> !arm | surgy
[17:02] <surgy> can i just sudo chmod 777 /dev/usb
[17:02] <surgy> auronandace: thats not relevant
[17:02] <TheNumb> auronandace: most of the arduinos are not arm based though.
[17:02] <TheNumb> surgy: I think I've seen a tutorial.
[17:02] <surgy> and its not an issue with the arduino anyways
[17:03] <auronandace> TheNumb: oh, sorry, i thought they were an arm device
[17:03] <TheNumb> surgy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-make
[17:03] <TheNumb> auronandace: some of those do have an arm SoC ;p
[17:03] <TheNumb> surgy: ubuntu-make can install arduino ide for you. I guess it'll adjust the udev settings too.
[17:03] <TheNumb> s/settings/rules
[17:04] <surgy> TheNumb: but i have a nice ubuntu setup already and i have the arduino ide installed already
[17:05] <TheNumb> surgy: id your user in dialout group?
[17:05] <surgy> ?
[17:05] <auronandace> surgy: id
[17:05] <TheNumb> surgy: did you add your user to the "dialout" group?
[17:05] <surgy> TheNumb: no
[17:06] <surgy> TheNumb: idk what that is :)
[17:06] <TheNumb> Please do that, then log out and try again.
[17:06] <TheNumb> Then you should be able to connect to the arduino without running the ide as root.
[17:07] <TheNumb> surgy: also, there is a help page for arduino... http://playground.arduino.cc/Linux/Ubuntu
[17:07] <TheNumb> surgy: using a search engine doesn't hurt. Really ;-)
[17:09] <Cyb3rn3t> hi all !
[17:09] <surgy> TheNumb: really that doesnt answer my question either and i did use a search engine. thanks though.
[17:09] <ibtisam> #ita-foss-project
[17:09] <Cyb3rn3t> Can somebody help me plz ?,
[17:09] <TheNumb> surgy: it does answer your question.
[17:10] <auronandace> Cyb3rn3t: to help we need to know what is wrong
[17:10] <auronandace> surgy: what does id in a terminal show
[17:10] <Cyb3rn3t> I have a Lenovo T520, and ubuntu 15.04x64,
[17:10] <TheNumb> surgy: "i have to open the arduino ide with sudo everytime or else it wont be able to connect to the arduino via usb."
[17:10] <TheNumb> surgy: adding your user to the dialout group allows you to use /dev/usb as a user
[17:10] <Cyb3rn3t> It hase 2 special keys defult forward and backward,
[17:11] <Cyb3rn3t> and I would like use them as page-up/down
[17:11] <TheNumb> Cyb3rn3t: xmodmap
[17:11] <EriC^^> Cyb3rn3t: open a terminal and type xev
[17:12] <EriC^^> then press the keys and get their keycode
[17:12] <locksmith2> Hello -- How can I run 'ufw delete 4` without it asking if I am sure?
[17:13] <julian> 7e77
[17:13] <julian> hex
[17:13] <Guest14840> hello
[17:15] <Guest14840> hi
[17:16] <Cyb3rn3t> so I have the keycodes now (166,167)
[17:16] <dw1> anyone know why brasero would slow down burning duplicates to an image
[17:16] <locksmith2> ufw --force doesnt work
[17:16] <dw1> like, the first 2 disks were fast, but it's not even winding up anymore
[17:16] <dw1> just trickling
[17:17] <EriC^^> Cyb3rn3t: ok, xmodmap -e "keycode 166 = Prior" for pageup and Next for pagedown
[17:17] <linocisco> i got big problem setting up Canon LBP3050 with ubuntu 15.04 x64 for many days and not ok yet. I tried to install latest driver as per manual from canon site.http://support-sg.canon-asia.com/contents/SG/EN/0100459601.html which is the latest one. but still having problem on status like "Idle - ccp send_data error, exit"
[17:18] <linocisco> I tried to do /etc/init.d/ccpd restart and /etc/init.d/cups restart many times and rebooted many times. it is still not fixed
[17:19] <Cyb3rn3t> EriC^^: so I created a new kemap file, and I found the page up/down,
[17:19] <Cyb3rn3t> EriC^^: so I add this words after the spec keys, and load this on every boot ?
[17:20] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:20] <EriC^^> you can add it to startup apps so it starts after the gui
[17:20] <Cyb3rn3t> EriC^^: sweet
[17:21] <mindbender1> Is there a way of knowing which repository a package belongs to in aptitude?
[17:22] <Cyb3rn3t> EriC^^: works, smooth, thank you :D
[17:22] <EriC^^> no problem
[17:26] <VINISH> Hi While installing ubuntu, in partition manager i can see a 16 gb of free space. How can i make ubuntu install into that space? Without affecting any other partions
[17:27] <Cyb3rn3t> it is strange, that I changed my notebook from AMD cpu to a Intel CPU notebook in the same chategory, and my ubuntu is running much smoother, faster than on the AMD version...
[17:27] <EriC^^> VINISH: create a ext4 partition and set the mountpoint to "/"
[17:27] <Kartagis> mindbender1: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[17:27] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: dont forget to create a swap, if you dont have already
[17:28] <VINISH> How to keep swap?
[17:28] <TheNumb> Cyb3rn3t: there's no need to create a swap partition.
[17:28] <TheNumb> He can make a swap file later on if he needs to.
[17:28] <Cyb3rn3t> thats true
[17:28] <Kartagis> how do I find out how large my swap partition is?
[17:28] <BluesKaj> mindbender1:  apt-cache policy packagename
[17:29] <Cyb3rn3t> Kartagis: free -m
[17:29] <EriC^^> Kartagis: free -m
[17:29] <Cyb3rn3t> :D
[17:29] <VINISH> should i split that fre space into two for swap and ext4?
[17:29] <EriC^^> VINISH: how much ram do you have and do you want to hibernate?
[17:30] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: if you just have 16Gig, I'd make it ext4 the all
[17:30] <VINISH> Ram is 4 gb
[17:30] <EriC^^> 4gb is ok i guess, 4gb swap would be nice though
[17:30] <BluesKaj> VINISH: then 6Gb is plenty for swap
[17:30] <EriC^^> and you can hibernate too
[17:30] <Cyb3rn3t> 4+xMB
[17:30] <mindbender1> Thanks.
[17:32] <VINISH> Ok then i wil lsplit into 10gb etx4 and 6gb swap?????
[17:32] <linocisco> I tried to do /etc/init.d/ccpd restart and /etc/init.d/cups restart many times and rebooted many times. it is still not fixed
[17:32] <linocisco> i got big problem setting up Canon LBP3050 with ubuntu 15.04 x64 for many days and not ok yet. I tried to install latest driver as per manual from canon site.http://support-sg.canon-asia.com/contents/SG/EN/0100459601.html which is the latest one. but still having problem on status like "Idle - ccp send_data error, exit"
[17:32] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: just if you would like to use hybernate
[17:32] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: I would use S3 sleep mode instead of hybernate
[17:33] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: in this case U dont need 6G for swp
[17:33] <mindbender1> Related question. I added a nginx specific source.list in sources.list.d but it's packages are not showing up in aptitude. What might be wrong?
[17:34] <mindbender1> That's after running update.
[17:34] <VINISH> OK, one more query, it is also asking "device for boot loader installatio" which location should i select for that
[17:34] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: swap is used to 1, if you ran out of ram with the application...2, hibernate
[17:34] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: what OS do you have on that box ?
[17:34] <VINISH> Can i create swap later?
[17:34] <EriC^^> VINISH: select the usb /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc etc.
[17:35] <linocisco> one strange thing i found using lsusb is I found LBP3010B printer instead of mine LBP3050
[17:35] <VINISH> Its Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[17:35] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: you can create swap later, if you keep free space for it
[17:36] <VINISH> By default it selected /dev/sda
[17:36] <BluesKaj> mindbender1:  why aptitude, use apt or apt-get
[17:36] <VINISH> how much space does boot loader takes?
[17:36] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: so what is the harddrive wher you install this OS ? sda ?
[17:36] <EriC^^> VINISH: what is /dev/sda ? it will overwrite the mbr
[17:37] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: /dev/sda will overwrite the masterboot record, but it is no so dangerosi as it sounds
[17:37] <mindbender1> BluesKaj: I use aptitude because I might not know which version of the packages are available.
[17:37] <VINISH> in /dev/sda i have created new partion called /dev/sd7 (type ext4)
[17:37] <VINISH> and also i want use the windows parallely....
[17:37] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: once you did, you can just boot up your new OS until you ran this on the booted OS: sudo update-grub
[17:38] <EriC^^> VINISH: you have windows on another disk?
[17:38] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: this will detect your attached hdds, and OSs on it, and put them to the grub menu
[17:38] <mindbender1> Or even what the package name looks like
[17:38] <EriC^^> VINISH: if you're installing to a 16gb usb, then install the bootloader there, not on the windows disk
[17:38] <VINISH> so i dont need to change the bootloader loaction?
[17:38] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: EriC^^ is right
[17:39] <EriC^^> VINISH: what is the usb's name? and what is the windows disk name?
[17:39] <VINISH> ok ill installl ubuntu in new 16gb partion and boot loader in /dev/sda
[17:39] <EriC^^> sda is the usb?
[17:39] <VINISH> how much space does bootloader requires?
[17:40] <EriC^^> VINISH: nothing bro, it's like 16bytes
[17:40] <_krav> Anyone else using Spotify on ubuntu?
[17:40] <VINISH> no its showing my whole HDD space in bootloader
[17:40] <_krav> And finding a lot of sections under "main" missing? (like Browse, Genres, etc.)
[17:40] <VINISH> ok thanks
[17:40] <VINISH> Im proceding with installation
[17:40] <VINISH> will be back soon
[17:40] <Cyb3rn3t> VINISH: good luck
[17:43] <linocisco> i got big problem setting up Canon LBP3050 with ubuntu 15.04 x64 for many days and not ok yet. I tried to install latest driver as per manual from canon site.http://support-sg.canon-asia.com/contents/SG/EN/0100459601.html which is the latest one. but still having problem on status like "Idle - ccp send_data error, exit"
[17:48] <BluesKaj> mindbender1:  that should make no difference. aptitude is old and not as stable as apt and apt-get, but all 3 are part of the dpkg package manager system, so they all refer back to dpkg in the repos for the package names when installing
[17:49] <mindbender1> BluesKaj: you are right I just thought about it. I could use tab to get a list of alternatives
[17:50] <BluesKaj> aptitude used to have a resolving advantage many yrs ago, but that's no longer the case
[17:50] <mindbender1> Morevover, it turned out the line I had in list was for stable. I updated it to include mainline for nginx which solves it for me.
[17:51] <mindbender1> BluesKaj: thanks for the heads up!
[17:52] <BluesKaj> mindbender1:  you're welcome
[17:55] <stiv2k> does anybody know how to change the power settings for the login screen... i.e. when to put the display to sleep and when to put the computer to sleep? For some reason the monitor goes to sleep VERY quickly, like in a few seconds, at the login screen
[17:56] <dw1> lshw says: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
[17:56] <dw1> any ideas?
[17:59] <HoloIRCUser9> Hi all, is ubuntu phone available in egypt?
[18:00] <auronandace> !touch | HoloIRCUser9
[18:00] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser9, i am not sure, you might reask in #ubuntu-touch
[18:00] <HoloIRCUser9> Ok thanks all
[18:01] <abeautifulmime> hi
[18:01] <abeautifulmime> i've a live usb install of lubuntu
[18:02] <abeautifulmime> but i'm getting input/output error every time i rty to execute a command
[18:02] <abeautifulmime> and many programs are crashing
[18:02] <abeautifulmime> i've no persistence configured
[18:02] <abeautifulmime> how can i resolve this ?
[18:02] <OerHeks> abeautifulmime, check the iso for errors, with md5sum
[18:02] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[18:03] <abeautifulmime> uh
[18:03] <abeautifulmime> but my only os is the one that i'm running from live usb
[18:03] <abeautifulmime> there is no img
[18:03] <abeautifulmime> if you see what i mean
[18:03] <k1l_> abeautifulmime: is it a live install or a real install on usb?
[18:04] <abeautifulmime> live install
[18:04] <abeautifulmime> i also changed memory recently
[18:04] <abeautifulmime> not sure if that could be responsiblre
[18:04] <k1l_> yes
[18:05] <k1l_> the live install loads into the ram. if the ram is not working properly that is a cause for that
[18:05] <OerHeks> There is a memtest86 on your live iso
[18:07] <roggo> whats the name of the paint program in ubuntu? not gimp, there is a ms paint like one
[18:07] <OerHeks> roggo, libre office draw, but there are tons more in softwarecenter
[18:08] <highmindedlowlif> maybe tuxpaint
[18:08] <k1l_> or "pinta"
[18:09] <k1l_> !info pinta
[18:09] <OerHeks> pinta is a nice one indeed. or Krita.
[18:10] <dft> g'day
[18:12] <roggo> pinta yes!
[18:12] <roggo> ty
[18:18] <xheart> hi.
[18:18] <xheart> why my pc ubuntu14.94 is not sycronizing with the correct date and time? i tried changing them manually but no luck.
[18:18] <xheart> *14.04
[18:19] <Bashing-om> xheart: Dual booting with Windows ?
[18:19] <highmindedlowlif> Can anyone give me suggestions for the proscribed language/toolkit for developing Ubuntu desktop applications. I've tried quickly but couldn't get into it.
[18:19] <xheart> no windows
[18:19] <xheart> just ubuntu 14.04
[18:20] <Bashing-om> xheart: Next then is the time in bios correct .. maybe time to change the CMOS battery ?
[18:20] <xheart> can be...
[18:21] <xheart> is there a sudo command to correct the date?
[18:21] <bekks> xheart: sudo ntpdate e.g.
[18:21] <Bashing-om> xheart: The OS reads the hardware clock, if it is not correct in bios, well not be correct in the operating system .
[18:23] <xheart> bekks is that commend correct?
[18:23] <bekks> xheart: As designated, it is an example. Running random commands will not solve your issue.
[18:23] <xheart> ok
[18:24] <g4b1t> the default command for syncing with ubuntu servers is sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[18:30] <dm_comp> what acronyms do you use for backups. like today.bckup?
[18:31] <bekks> dm_comp: "daily backup". No acronym needed :)
[18:35] <palla> \join irc.darksin.net
[18:38] <_krav> Anyone else using Spotify on ubuntu? (and having issues with some sections)
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> _krav: best to state your specific issue to the channel
[18:38] <_krav> some of the default spotify "apps"/sections are missing including "Browse", "Genres", etc.
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> _krav: how did you install spotify, ubuntu version?
[18:46] <_krav> i did install the ubuntu version
[18:47] <k1l_> _krav: talk to spotify about that, its their app
[18:50] <BluesKaj> _krav: does spotify use it's own "browser' ?
[19:00] <_krav> hmm
[19:00] <_krav> not sure but it feels like it
[19:00] <_krav> some other pages work and appear as selections
[19:00] <_krav> playlist-based pages or top-X pages
[19:01] <_krav> though it could
[19:01] <_krav> i found you could type "spotify:app:browser" in the search field to get to the browser directly, but i get a blank page, a loading and then nothing
[19:02] <_krav> so you may be onto something
[19:02] <_krav> if it does use a browser maybe something is blocking it
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> _krav: try k1l_ sugestion #spotify
[19:04] <clrae> where can i download lubuntu-desktop package ? , i want to download it to usb and unpack/install it manually without internet access
[19:04] <_krav> i really gotta turn off join/leave messages
[19:04] <_krav> theyre crazy in this channel lol..
[19:04] <highmindedlowlif> Hi, the screen on my laptop is broken so I use an external monitor but the monitor doesn't display anything until I get all the way to the desktop. I'm using LXDE and want to change to Unity but the greeter won't display. Can I set it to go straight to Unity from the cli?
[19:04] <abeautifulmime> hello
[19:04] <abeautifulmime> i have an ubuntu live install
[19:04] <abeautifulmime> lubuntu
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> !info lubuntu-desktop | clrae
[19:05] <abeautifulmime> but im getting squashfs errors on reboot
[19:05] <abeautifulmime> and programs are crashing randomly
[19:05] <abeautifulmime> or im getting input output errors in the console
[19:05] <k1l_> abeautifulmime: either your usb stick is dying or the memory
[19:05] <abeautifulmime> what can i do
[19:05] <bekks> abeautifulmime: So your live install is corrupted. Create a new one.
[19:05] <abeautifulmime> i did replace the memry recently
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | highmindedlowlif tryed this?
[19:06] <k1l_> abeautifulmime: was ist ok before the memory replacement?
[19:06] <abeautifulmime> how can i verify if it is ram or usb
[19:06] <k1l_> abeautifulmime: run memtest, like told before
[19:06] <owen1> my mouse don't highlight anything on my laptop's monitor. i can click on things but not highlight and it's fine on my external monitor. any ideas?
[19:06] <abeautifulmime> yes
[19:06] <niva1> hi I have 2 lvm volumes inside a dmcrypt, I want to expand one of the two lvm volumes and I sm using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions#Enlarge_an_encrypted_partition
[19:06] <niva1> I am stuck
[19:06] <abeautifulmime> it was ok before memory replacement but ive had no problems with the ram for a few days
[19:07] <abeautifulmime> its only today that it occurred
[19:07] <niva1> in the 11 Resize the (LVM) Physical Volume.
[19:07] <k1l_> !memtest | abeautifulmime
[19:07] <niva1> it gives me Insufficient free space: 1024 extents needed, but only 0 available
[19:07] <OerHeks> abeautifulmime, hardware happen to break,so did you perform a memtest86 test?
[19:07] <clrae> ubottu ; why is it so small only 2 kB , shouldnt it be 500 mb or so ? am not going to install iy from the  net
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> owen1: did you mirror screens?
[19:07] <abeautifulmime> no ive not done one before
[19:07] <k1l_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FaultyHardware  abeautifulmime
[19:08] <k1l_> abeautifulmime: talking or wishing doesnt help in your situation. make the memtest
[19:09] <allizom> clrae: you'll need to fetch dependencies as well. ubottu is a bot anyway
[19:09] <clrae> allizom ; can you explain more ?
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> clrae: you can sudo apt-get download lubuntu-desktop perhaps
[19:11] <niva1> any ideas on how to expand it ?
[19:11] <allizom> clrae: the package you are after is dependent on many others. you need to install them too
[19:12] <highmindedlowlif> lotuspsychje, if I am stuck on the login screen and can't see my desktop, can I use xrandr from a virtual terminal to change where X is displaying to?
[19:12] <clrae> allizom ; i just want to install GUI interface , so i can get out of the command prompt
[19:13] <owen1> lotuspsychje: not mirror
[19:13] <allizom> clrae: what did you install? ubuntu server?
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> clrae: could try a small one like blackbox
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> owen1: try mirror
[19:15] <clrae> allizom ; do i need to "sudo dpkg -i " every packege one by one ?
[19:15] <abeautifulmime> thanks k1l_
[19:15] <owen1> lotuspsychje: sure, just for the sake of investigating? i don't want mirror most of the time.
[19:15] <abeautifulmime> ::)
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> highmindedlowlif: how is your machine connected to the external monitor?
[19:15] <ikonia> clrae: use apt-get it will resolve dependencies or you
[19:16] <clrae> ikonia : i want to do it manually , isnt there any way ?
[19:16] <allizom> clrae: put them in a folder, cd and then do "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[19:16] <ikonia> why do you want to do it manually ?
[19:16] <clrae> ikonia ; without internet access ?
[19:16] <ikonia> why make a problem foryourself ?
[19:16] <ikonia> clrae: even without internet access, if you make a repo for the packages you can do an apt-get
[19:16] <ikonia> the easy solution would be to get internet access
[19:16] <k1l_> clrae: with such a big meta package like the lubuntu-desktop, its most easy to get that machine to internet
[19:16] <ikonia> or use an ubuntu install CD to either install the packages, or install ubuntu with a desktop in the first place
[19:16] <Darrell> Anyone here happen to be a testdisk pro? I'm trying to save myself some time and create a "backup.log" file out of a "testdisk.log" file.  Can anyone tell me if this is possible?
[19:17] <clrae> ikonia ; i dont have ethernet cable nor i could configure wifi
[19:17] <highmindedlowlif> lotuspsychje, VGA port. Old school. I just went to a virtual terminal and did export DISPLAY=:0 and tried to set the display via xrandr but it just says "failed to change screen configuration"
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> clrae: you could work with aptoncd also to backup the stuff you want offline
[19:17] <ikonia> clrae: so use an ubuntu install CD to either a.) install the packages as a repo b.) re-install ubuntu/lubuntu/whatever with a desktop installed already
[19:18] <clrae> k1l_ ; if it is possible i am willing to do it , please tell em how
[19:18] <allizom> clrae: did you install server or desktop?
[19:18] <owen1> lotuspsychje: i tried mirroring and the problem persisted. i just fonud out that it's not the monitor of my laptop. it's only chrome. firefox is fine!
[19:18] <k1l_> clrae: get the huge load of package manually, then use dpkg -i on the packages
[19:18] <k1l_> clrae: good luck
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> owen1: thats weird then
[19:19] <ikonia> just download an ubuntu/lubuntu install CD , it will be a repo, and then you can just do apt-get lubuntu-desktop
[19:19] <owen1> lotuspsychje: also it's only my mouse. not my touchpoint!
[19:19] <ikonia> simple, job done
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> Darrell: can you tell us what your trying to do in the first place?
[19:19] <ioria> clrae, you can try the lxde.iso from here http://lxde.org/download/   (don't know if you can install it, it's a live )   or we can try to make your wifi working ....
[19:19] <hecatae> Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-65-generic x86_64) < anyone know if that is the latest kernel for trusty?
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> owen1: try create a new user, and test it from there?
[19:19] <clrae> <k1l_ ; can you please refer me where i can download the packeges  needed for lubuntu-desktop
[19:19] <Darrell> recover a couple of corrupted partitions on a 500gb hard drive.
[19:20] <highmindedlowlif> lotuspsychje, there must be some configuration file somewhere that I can change if I just knew what it was
[19:20] <ikonia> clrae: download a lubuntu install CD
[19:20] <Darrell> or "deleted" I should say
[19:20] <ikonia> clrae: mount it - and then just apt-get lubuntu-desktop
[19:20] <k1l_> clrae: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> Darrell: i would reccomend to scan the whole hd with photorec to recover
[19:20] <owen1> lotuspsychje: ok. thanks!
[19:21] <ioria> clrae, already posted http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/lubuntu-desktop
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> highmindedlowlif: i dont fully understand whats happening sorry, attaching external monitor should already give you 'screen' at POST booting
[19:21] <Darrell> oops, ignore that
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> Darrell: /query nick
[19:22] <highmindedlowlif> lotuspsychje, thanks. Yeah, I know it's weird. Only laptop I've ever seen that doesn't do that. I'll figure it out. I'm exploring the /etc/lightdm directory as we speak. Wish me luck.
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> highmindedlowlif: maybe a fresh install would fix that out right to your external
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> Darrell: sudo photorec and scan whole partitions
[19:24] <Darrell> lotuspsychje: I scanned the disk earlier this morning using testdisk and found the needed partitions, however I managed to choose one incorrectly. I already have all the required info from the testdisk.log file, I just need to know how to use the included info to make a backup.log file from that info. Rather than waiting another four hours for the scan to complete.
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> Darrell: testdisk is to test the hd, photorec to recover
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> Darrell: photorec wont scan hours for 500gig
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> Darrell: try a fresh scan :p
[19:26] <Darrell> I understand this, but until the partition tables are correct it won't do anything. Correct?
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> Darrell: try it, see for yourself
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> highmindedlowlif: you could try a liveusb of ubuntu, see if it would make your external screen work right away
[19:29] <sorinello> Hello. Can someone tell me how well supported is digital out (coax or optical) in ubuntu ? are there drivers that support these ports ? I am talking abou integrated SPDIF ports in the motherboard
[19:29] <Bashing-om> hecatae: Yes it is : uname -r >> 3.13.0-65-generic . Non HWE .
[19:30] <hecatae> Bashing-om:  thank you
[19:30] <Bashing-om> hecatae: :)
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> sorinello: in most cases ubuntu will load up needed drivers automaticly
[19:32] <sorinello> lotuspsychje, I have a certain motherboard with a Realtek chipset, but I can't find it on the alsaproject how well this chipset is supported
[19:32] <linocisco> hi
[19:32] <linocisco> who is using ruby on rails on ubuntu?
[19:32] <linocisco> I am so confused with what I have installed during one day ruby on rails course which included vagrant,atom and vm .I can't decide which are really located where
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> sorinello: test it out on liveusb?
[19:33] <sorinello> lotuspsychje, yeah.. good point :) thanks
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> sorinello: just make sure your connected to internet + updates maybe choose LTS
[19:33] <sorinello> lotuspsychje, aren't these drivers bundled with the kernel ?
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> sorinello: what kind of plans do you have with the infrared
[19:34] <sorinello> lotuspsychje, not infrared. I want to switch from analog to digital, and I want to see if Linux supports my obo's realtek chipset
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> sorinello: ok try the live then :p
[19:38] <abeautifulmime> k1l_ i ran dd to copy to usb in cygwin but its not showing up
[19:38] <highmindedlowlif> lotuspsychje, I'll try that. Thanks.
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: did you try the #ruby chanel?
[19:39] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, ruby and rubyonrails are not the same
[19:39] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, i m also checking rubyonrails channel
[19:40] <k1l_> abeautifulmime: try another usb pen drive. this might be broken
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: can this help you get started: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/ruby-on-rails.html
[19:40] <abeautifulmime> HMM
[19:40] <abeautifulmime> ok
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: or the #ubuntu-server guys
[19:41] <abeautifulmime> k1l_ it may be a cygwin issue
[19:41] <abeautifulmime> i can copy to the drive in windows
[19:42] <abeautifulmime> logically speaking it sounds like a cygwin problem
[19:42] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, ok
[19:42] <prock> i had installed ubuntu to a usb stick, ext4, not unetbootin etc, and doing some updates, the process messed up, and now in the usb sticks grub menu it only has memtest, how to correct this
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> prock: is this a liveusb or persistent usb?
[19:46] <prock> live usb installed to another usb (Try Ubuntu / Install Ubuntu) -> install
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> prock: how did you create the liveusb?
[19:47] <prock> so its persistant with no persistance file
[19:47] <prock> dd
[19:47] <prock> my install would be the same as a hdd, but no swap
[19:48] <Sacrelicious> question for all
[19:48] <Sacrelicious> is there a program that will allow me to route a call from skype into audacity?
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> prock: not sure i follow sorry, maybe someone else can solve this
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> Sacrelicious: whats your end goal with this
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> Sacrelicious: record a call?
[19:50] <popey> Sacrelicious: do you man, "record a skype call"?
[19:50] <popey> *mean
[19:50] <prock> lotuspsychje: forget how im booting and think of a normal install, do updates, the inital ones from clean install, the process messes up along hte way, mostly done thow, and then grub menu only has memtest+ option
[19:51] <popey> prock: boot to another live install, insert your broken usb, chroot to the broken one and reinstall grub
[19:52] <Sacrelicious> lotuspsychje, yeah just recording the audio output of a skype audio call
[19:52] <Bashing-om> prock: I would in that case boot up a liveDVD, mount the install's root partition and list the contents of /boot . If kernels are present, CHroot into the install and re-install grub .
[19:52] <prock> hold phone up to computer lol
[19:52] <popey> Sacrelicious: two ways to do that, one is "skype call recorder" which works well, the other is an app called AudioRecorder - I have used both, they're both great
[19:52] <prock> and if no kernel present? Bashing-om
[19:52] <Sacrelicious> excellent
[19:53] <popey> prock: in chroot you can reinstall whatever is missing
[19:53] <prock> whats the chroot commands, thats been a long time since i done that
[19:53] <Sacrelicious> popey, can i download them from terminal?
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> !chroot | prock
[19:53] <Bashing-om> prock: That would be a hairy situation .. Might try and install the newest kernel(s) and see what results .
[19:53] <clrae> ikonia ; you said " even without internet access, if you make a repo for the packages you can do an apt-get " can you tell me how to make a repo for the packages in a usb stck ?
[19:53] <popey> Sacrelicious: sure.
[19:54] <ikonia> clrae: download the lubuntu install media and make a "livecd" usb from it, it will then act as a repo for you
[19:54] <popey> Sacrelicious: http://atdot.ch/scr/ for skype call recorder, https://launchpad.net/audio-recorder for audio recorder
[19:55] <popey> ikonia: it will?
[19:55] <ikonia> popey: you can use it as a repo, yes, it installs the line in the sources.list
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | clrae or try this
[19:55] <Twirl> Hello, it seems extremely complicated to add fonts to ubuntu to use in programs such as Net beans and Android Development Studio, i followed a guide that explained how to open the fonts with FontForge and saving them without info and some other things but it doesn't work and everything is completely broken and time consuming, isnt there a site or repository to download fonts that will work out of the box in those IDEs?
[19:55] <ikonia> it's only got the minimum packages on though
[19:55] <popey> ikonia: but there's next to nothing in the repo
[19:55] <clrae> ikonia ; and then  plug the usb and  do apt-get  ?
[19:55] <prock> Bashing-om: how to get latest kernel
[19:55] <ikonia> popey: enough to install a desktop
[19:55] <ikonia> (as in the lubuntu desktop meta package)
[19:56] <popey> ikonia: nope
[19:56] <ikonia> popey: really ? the lubuntu install CD doesn't have the lubuntu desktop packages on
[19:56] <popey> ikonia: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.04/release/lubuntu-15.04-alternate-i386.list look at what is in pool
[19:56] <Bashing-om> !bcm
[19:56] <popey> ikonia: no, that's not how live cds work
[19:56] <ikonia> popey: I thought it still had the minimum packages on to do the lubuntu install
[19:56] <popey> nope
[19:56] <popey> the install is inside a compressed (casper) image
[19:56] <ikonia> wow, didn't know that
[19:57] <popey> oh, blimey, maybe I'm wrong
[19:57] <popey> lubuntu cd has way more than any other flavour, my apologies
[19:57] <popey> how odd
[19:57] <ikonia> thats the file system
[19:57] <ikonia> popey: no big deal,
[19:58] <rww> yeah, lubuntu is special about that
[19:58] <Twirl> Anyone knows a site with fonts to use in Netbeans/Android Development Studio that doesnt need to pass through fonts editors ?
[19:58] <rww> would be right for the rest of the flavors though
[19:59] <Sacrelicious> can i download skype call recorder from terminal?
[19:59] <Sacrelicious> popey, can i get it from terminal?
[19:59] <Twirl> Sacrelicious: its easier to use another recorder
[19:59] <Sacrelicious> Twirl, which one?
[19:59] <Twirl> Sacrelicious: audacity is the best
[19:59] <Twirl> in every sense
[19:59] <leevision> got a problem using backbox 4 with aircrack error fix channel mono -1
[19:59] <Sacrelicious> Twirl, i have audacity. i just dont know how to pipe in the skype call as an input?
[19:59] <popey> Sacrelicious: you can wget those debs and dpkg -i install them
[20:00] <ikonia> leevision: try the backbox support resources please, it's not something this channel supports
[20:00] <Twirl> Sacrelicious: well i use it with microphone/speakers so u might need to do a lil research
[20:00] <Sacrelicious> popey, i'm a noob...what do i type in terminal?
[20:00] <popey> Sacrelicious: the nice thing about skype call recorder is it's automatic, it just records every call. no need to launch audacity
[20:00] <Sacrelicious> popey, perfect - how do i install it?
[20:00] <leevision> there is no backbox support ubuntu invented Backbox
[20:00] <popey> Sacrelicious: you running 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[20:01] <Sacrelicious> popey, 64 bit
[20:01] <ikonia> leevision: there is
[20:01] <ikonia> leevision: it's on a different network, it's listed on their support website,
[20:01] <k1l_> !backbox | leevision
[20:01] <popey> Sacrelicious: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12684485/
[20:01] <leevision> Aircrack is not a backbox only tool , Ubuntu has it too
[20:02] <popey> leevision: come back when you're runnimng ubuntu then
[20:02] <ikonia> leevision: it's not supported here, use the backbox channel, please.
[20:02] <clrae> what are the nesessary packages that i need to sudo dpkg -i  to get lubuntu GUI interface ?
[20:02] <ikonia> clrae: don't use dpkg -i
[20:02] <k1l_> leevision: we dont need to tell you 10 more times, do we? no. please use #backbox, thanks
[20:02] <ikonia> just apt-get the lubuntu-desktop meta package
[20:02] <clrae> ikonia : why ?
[20:02] <prock> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot is not cutting it
[20:02] <ikonia> so it will make it easy and quick for you
[20:03] <wafflejock> clrae: apt-get will get the dependencies for you no need to manually hunt them down
[20:03] <clrae> ikonia : where can i download lubuntu-desktop meta package
[20:03] <Bashing-om> prock: Look'n to see about you chroot link .
[20:03] <Sacrelicious> popey, thank you
[20:03] <popey> np
[20:03] <clrae> wafflejock; how long would it take if i do it manually ?$
[20:03] <ikonia> clrae: from the livecd I suggested earlier
[20:04] <ikonia> clrae: is this a clean install ?
[20:04] <prock> i need to give the mount path
[20:05] <leevision> ChanServ I killed thel and used ignore negative-one but could not get the handshake
[20:05] <prock> looks up gentoo's chroot, its perfict, im just making this usb stick for a friend cause his harddrive went bad
[20:05] <wafflejock> clrae: you can always just download the packages from the packages site directly but if you're online apt-get is way easier http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/lubuntu-desktop
[20:06] <ikonia> clrae: is this a "new" or "clean" install your trying to work with ?
[20:06] <clrae> ikonia>  where can i get/download the lubuntu install media and how to make a a "livecd" usb from it ??
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> he wants lubuntu-desktop for offline install
[20:06] <prock> Bashing-om: more like this : mount -t proc proc /mnt
[20:06] <prock> mount --rbind /sys /mnt
[20:06] <prock> mount --rbind /dev /mnt
[20:06] <wafflejock> clrae: http://lubuntu.net/
[20:07] <Bashing-om> prock: My method ' sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt - for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done - sudo chroot /mnt ' .
[20:07] <clrae> ikonia ; i installed the base system from mini iso and now i need the GUI interface Lubuntu envirenment
[20:07] <ikonia> clrae: ok - then I advise you to just re-install using a lubuntu CD, instead of the mini
[20:07] <ikonia> clrae: it will do everything for you then
[20:07] <ikonia> make it easy
[20:08] <rww> mini ISO amuses me, half the time I see people use it it turns out they do in fact need the non-mini stuff
[20:08] <wafflejock> yeah unfortunate you need a DVD for regular installs now though too
[20:08] <wafflejock> or USB
[20:08] <prock> sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt - for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done - sudo chroot /mnt
[20:08] <reisio> rww: what stuff?
[20:08] <wafflejock> old stuff is stuck with mini or whatever
[20:08] <prock> exactly like that ?^
[20:08] <rww> reisio: drivers, generally
[20:09] <prock> well XY lol
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> so whats the mini designed for to do exactly?
[20:09] <rww> wafflejock: eh, imho if your system's old enough that it doesn't support USB sticks, you might want to consider not using Ubuntu
[20:09] <rww> but that's just my personal opinion
[20:09] <Bashing-om> prock: Where sdXY is the target partition that hold the rppt file system .. as in sda1 .
[20:09] <clrae_>  ikonia ; i installed the base system from mini iso and now i need the GUI interface Lubuntu envirenment
[20:09] <Bashing-om> root*
[20:09] <wafflejock> rww: yeah never done it for anything but to see if it would run and any better than win 98 or whatever was on those machines
[20:09] <TJ-> clrae: if you've got a minimal system installed and booted then its just a case of "apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"
[20:09] <clrae_> ikonia : i dont have wifi working to install it , so i need to install it offline from a usb
[20:10] <ikonia> clrae: I suggest you forget that install, and just reinstall using a lubuntu install CD / usb
[20:10] <reisio> rww: what else would one use
[20:10] <k1l_> lotuspsychje: minimal base system where you can setup the minimum of packages that you think you need (instead of having a full desktop and stripping down packages afterwards)
[20:10] <rww> reisio: debian, obviously
[20:10] <TJ-> clrae_: is this the install that had the device I/O errors ?
[20:10] <k1l_> lotuspsychje: but if you isntall the big meta package anyway, you can use the full iso :)
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> k1l_: mostly for bandwith/data issues then?
[20:10] <reisio> rww: :p
[20:10] <Bashing-om> clrae_: A base minimal install requires 'xorg' to support the GUI ..
[20:10] <clrae_> TJ- ; No
[20:11] <clrae_> Bashing-om> so i need to install xorg , How ?
[20:11] <ikonia> clrae_: stop
[20:11] <ikonia> clrae_: to get working - do this simpley
[20:12] <ikonia> clrae_: 1.) download the lubuntu live image/install image from lubuntu.net b.) make install media c.) install lubuntu
[20:12] <ikonia> clrae_: it's that simple
[20:12] <k1l_> lotuspsychje: for advanced users who want differen DE/WM or such, or a minimal system. but most times users just load the heavy meta packages anyway, so that doesnt make sense
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> k1l_: ok tnx
[20:13] <Bashing-om> clrae_: Installing from base minimal is not for the faint at heart. A lot of prior prudent planning is involved . Not to say you can not do it .. just be prepared .
[20:13] <rww> out of interest, does debootstrap still work with Ubuntu?
[20:13] <clrae_> ikonia: no it is not , oh my god i need to explain again
[20:13] <k1l_> rww: why not?
[20:13] <rww> k1l_: i don't know, ubuntu breaks random stuff like that, was wondering if it was still supported
[20:13] <rww> and the relevant wiki article is from 2013 so...
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> rww: saw it come up on ubuntu-touch also
[20:13] <ikonia> clrae_: what is the actual problem ?
[20:14] <k1l_> clrae_: what ubuntu install is there installed where the wifi doesnt work? is it a regular desktop?
[20:14] <rww> ah, or there's the article on the *other* wiki which is linked from the first wiki but was last modified in 2012, nice
[20:15] <TJ-> rww: debootstrap is still the primary tool
[20:15] <rww> TJ-: thanks
[20:16] <clrae_> Bashing-om> ;  you see i hade to install using mini iso , i tried to install with the full lubuntu iso , but it dosnt work for some raeson get stuck in the proccess of the installation and it says i have a faulty hard drive , so i tried with the mini iso and this time it worked and i habe command line prompt ,  SO ALL i need now is  a graphical LUbuntu-desktop  interface to get going
[20:17] <ikonia> clrae_: if you have a faulty hard drive - the solution is not to use the mini iso, the solution is to get a new harddrive
[20:17] <TJ-> clrae_: On a non GUI system to use a non-open Wifi connection you need to manually configure the connection, eith via a Network Manager connection (if NM is installed), or more manually using /etc/network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant (which does the wifi-specific bits)
[20:17] <clrae_> ikonia ; no i dont have a faulty hard drive , prove i can install other OSs
[20:17] <ikonia> clrae_: then the normal install should work
[20:18] <ikonia> and if it doesn't - you need to fix/work through that
[20:18] <ikonia> using a mini install not a great solution
[20:18] <clrae_> ikonia ; why not ?
[20:18] <k1l_> clrae_: i already told you how you can achieve "your way". so what is the problem now?
[20:18] <TJ-> clrae_: ikonia  Bashing-om I looked at the logs - the installer reported an I/O error that inferred there was a faulty hard drive. In fact, kern.log showed the problem was in reading the squash FS from the installer media
[20:19] <ikonia> clrae_: because you're making a problem hard and will end up creating a problem for yourself rather than just fixing the problem
[20:19] <ikonia> TJ-: perfect, so faulty media
[20:19] <ikonia> thank you for doing the leg work
[20:20] <clrae_> k1l_; you said install the packages manually one by one , but i figured that would take so long ? how long is it gonna take me if i try to  install every packege with sudo dpkg -i
[20:20] <ikonia> clrae_: stop looking at that option
[20:20] <MJK72901> Hello
[20:20] <ikonia> clrae_: it will cause you problems
[20:20] <popey> clrae_: it's not the time, it's that it's likely to end in failure.
[20:21] <popey> clrae_: you are trying to subvert the package manager which is there to help you
[20:21] <MJK72901> Hi
[20:21] <k1l_> clrae_: you can name al packages in one line. but we already told you that this way is just plain too much work.
[20:22] <k1l_> clrae_: there is no "click here and it works" solution that you want. people in here did name some solutions. you dont like them, but they seem to be the best solutions
[20:22] <TJ-> !info apt-offline | clrae_: If you want to go head with the offline package install
[20:22] <mcerb> Why does wifi disable itself every time I try to enable it?
[20:22] <clrae_> k1l_ can you please write the command to install them in one line  in paste.ubuntu.com
[20:23] <ikonia> clrae_: no, please try to listen to the advice
[20:23] <ikonia> clrae_: ignoring what's been said and pressing ahead will end in a problem for you
[20:23] <k1l_> clrae_: no. that is too much work.
[20:23] <ikonia> clrae_: TJ- has done the work for you - your install media seemed to be bad
[20:23] <k1l_> clrae_: if you dont even want to do that work, why should i?
[20:23] <ikonia> clrae_: make new install media and just install lubuntu
[20:24] <TJ-> clrae_: for apt-offline see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Use_apt-offline
[20:24] <clrae_> k1l_  : it's not that i dont want , its that i dont know the proccess
[20:25] <TJ-> clrae_: What everyone is trying to tell you is it would likely be quicker, and less frustrating, to re-download a GUI Desktop installer, verify it on the install media (USB, DVD), and use it
[20:25] <ikonia> clrae_: ok - so id you don't know, please listen to advice, this is not the right way to do this
[20:25] <k1l_> clrae_: please see what TJ- linked you
[20:25] <k1l_> clrae_: the manual way is not really a solution. we just mentioned this since you  were annoying in asking that over and over again
[20:26] <mcerb> I have an hp split x2 and I can't get wifi to work
[20:27] <TJ-> clrae_: k1l_: ikonia If I recall correctly a day or so ago we tried to solve this, and it felt as if either USB or something else might be causing corruption of the read from the media. But I wasn't around to see if the ISO and media hash verification was done correctly. The system apparently works fine with other distros/installers so it appeared to be isolated to this particular attempt with Ubuntu rather
[20:27] <TJ-> than something systemic
[20:27] <ikonia> TJ-: great work, it seems logical for someone who is new to ubuntu to re-create the install media and try again as the easy solution to a working system
[20:28] <TJ-> ikonia: If I recall correctly that was what happened and the issue repeated, but as I say, I wasn't around later to see how things transpired.
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> mcerb: ubuntu version and wifi chipset?
[20:31] <mcerb> 15.04 and Intel corporation wireless 3160
[20:31] <mcerb> I got it working on mint but I can't remember how
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> mcerb: can you check driver= loaded with sudo lshw -C network
[20:32] <mcerb> driver=iwlwifi
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> mcerb: can you check syslog or dmesg at the time wifi disconnects when you try to connect?
[20:35] <TJ-> mcerb: what does "rfkill list" report?
[20:36] <mcerb> Dmesg says "iwlwifi 0000:07:00.0: L1 Disabled - LTR Enabled
[20:37] <mcerb> rfkill list says Soft blocked: no//Hard blocked: yes
[20:37] <TJ-> mcerb: "hard blocked" means the PC firmware has disabled it. Is there a hardware switch for controlling radio, or a function hot-key ?
[20:38] <TJ-> mcerb: Recently we've seen quite a few HP laptops with this bug in their firmware
[20:39] <mcerb> I pressed the wifi switch a bit and now it says hard blocked no
[20:39] <wontfixit> Hi! I want to disable system shutdown with not-root user in ubuntu 14.04. So, I add a consolekit.system.stop policy, but nothing happens. What did I miss?
[20:39] <TJ-> mcerb: so it's now Hard/Soft blocked = No ?
[20:41] <mcerb> TJ-: yes
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> mcerb, TJ- this looks like something usefull to try: https://askubuntu.com/questions/677621/no-wireless-connection-on-hp-pavilion-x360-convertible
[20:44] <TJ-> mcerb: /var/log/syslog should contain the messages from Network Manager/wpa_supplicant/dhclient regarding searching for/connecting to a Wifi Access Point. On 15.04 you may need to use 'sudo journalctl' instead
[20:44] <TJ-> mcerb: which Ubuntu release is it?
[20:46] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I thought Intel had fixed all the 802.11n bugs in the iwlfifi firmware now
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: <mcerb> 15.04 and Intel corporation wireless 3160
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> mcerb: did you install 15.04 with cable + updates during setup?
[20:49] <TJ-> mcerb: "Unsupported splx structure" is the result of an ACPI bug; I would strongly suspect you can fix it with w auitable "acpi_osi=xxxxxx" kernel parameter.
[20:49] <ubuntu931> why nice doesnt have any effect on my ubuntu 14.04?
[20:49] <TJ-> s/w auitable/a suitable/
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu931: why nice?
[20:50] <ubuntu931> priority setting with nice command
[20:52] <ubuntu931> with or without nice command my script eats up as much cpu as is available
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu931: maybe its just your script making the high load then?
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu931: what kind of script and what are you trying to do?
[20:54] <ubuntu931> the script is just infinite loop echo hi, but top-command shows that it eats up all cpu even though i start it with nice -n 19 script
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu931: maybe the ##programming guys can take a look at your script?
[20:55] <TJ-> ubuntu931: does 'ps -efly' show the process running the script has 19, or its parent process ?
[20:57] <nha> ubuntu931: as long as nothing else is running, that's the intended behavior
[20:57] <nha> ubuntu931: "nice" doesn't mean "use less cpu". it means "give (some) priority to other processes"
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> +1
[20:58] <ubuntu931> tj-: /bin/bash ./script has 19
[20:58] <nha> so if you were running more such infinite loops than you have cpu cores, and one of those loops is nice, then the nice loop should use less cpu than the others
[21:02] <ubuntu931> nha: i see.
[21:02] <ubuntu931> is nice the right command to keep /proc/loadavg values below 1.0 ?
[21:06] <lotuspsychje> mcerb: still here?
[21:07] <elosz> hello. If a file owned by root has permission 222, can root still read the file?
[21:11] <hexagonSun_> hello
[21:11] <lotuspsychje> hexagonSun_: welcome, how can we help you?
[21:11] <nha> ubuntu931: well, I think /proc/loadavg numbers are just something like an average over the number of processes in the run queue, so the answer to your question is "No" (a nice process running an infinite loop always wants to run, it's just that other processes running infinite loops have higher priority - it doesn't change the number of processes that want to run infinite loops)
[21:11] <hexagonSun_> lotuspsychje: have you ever installed VirtualBox on 14.04 LTS?
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> hexagonSun_: try to ask your specific issue in the channel mate
[21:13] <hexagonSun_> well, this is why I'm asking: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3nhtdq/whats_the_deal_with_the_virtualbox_install_on/ I installed VirtualBox using the .deb file from their website, but it purged so many packages, it uninstalled (at least) 4 other programs from my computer
[21:14] <hexagonSun_> including php5 packages :s
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> hexagonSun_: you can install virtualbox right from the ubuntu repos
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox | hexagonSun_
[21:14] <wonko451> Hi guys, got a question about modules when anyone has a minute
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> wonko451: ask your issue in the channel mate
[21:14] <hexagonSun_> that wouldn't need for the other packages to be purged?
[21:15] <lotuspsychje> hexagonSun_: its reccomended to install package versions, for your specific ubuntu version
[21:15] <ubuntu931> nha: ok
[21:15] <lotuspsychje> !latest | hexagonSun_
[21:15] <wileee> hexagonSun_, #rd party download not truly part of support here, however dependencies do this, just be aware of what you're doing.
[21:15] <wonko451> Ok, question is I have a raspberry pi running Volumio, debian under the hood, I know the modules I need to load, is there a way to load them and stay persistant across reboots other than recompiling the kernal?
[21:15] <wileee> 3rd*
[21:16] <hexagonSun_> lotuspsychje: yeah, I mean, the .deb file was specifically for 14.04 LTS "trusty"
[21:16] <wileee> wonko451, related to ubuntu how?
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> wonko451: ask this in #debian please
[21:17] <lotuspsychje> hexagonSun_: can you recall wich version?
[21:17] <hexagonSun_> wileee: I'm still kind of new to stuff... installing by ubuntu repo would be something like "sudo add-apt-repository multiverse" then "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install virtualbox"? and that wouldn't need the packages to be purged?
[21:18] <hexagonSun_> lotuspsychje: virtualbox-5.0_5.0.4-102546~Ubuntu~trusty_i386
[21:18] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox trusty
[21:18] <lotuspsychje> hexagonSun_: read the latest trigger i pasted to you
[21:18] <wileee> Hexagen, vbox is in the ubuntu repos, you already have them onboard is all, be careful coming up with ideas rather than just asking, it makes it really hard to help.
[21:19] <hexagonSun_> I'm sorry if I don't fully follow you
[21:19] <hexagonSun_> I'm still learning. So, I need to install VirtualBox 4.3.10?
[21:19] <wonko451> okies, thanks
[21:19] <lotuspsychje> hexagonSun_: yes
[21:20] <hexagonSun_> lotuspsychje: how do I do that from command line?
[21:20] <wileee> hexagonSun_, If we spend tome giving you yes or no's to questions and you're guessing is what I mean, no biggie, just a subtle analysis of help models.
[21:21] <lotuspsychje> hexagonSun_: well try to uninstall previous vbox and install with sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[21:21] <imthenachoman> hello guys. i was wondering, if i was to do a fresh install of ubuntu and at the partition option mount /dev/sdb1 as ext4 /data, what would it's fstab look like?
[21:21] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | imthenachoman
[21:22] <wileee> imthenachoman, THis a data partition to be mounted within ubuntu boot?
[21:22] <imthenachoman> wileee: yes
[21:22] <imthenachoman> lotuspsychje: i know what fstab and all that is. i am wondering how ubuntu adds default entries
[21:23] <wileee> imthenachoman, Cool, just check the link and ask any more questions, it can be confusing.
[21:23] <lotuspsychje> imthenachoman: there are examples on that url
[21:23] <imthenachoman> wileee: that tuxfiles link doesn't work
[21:25] <wileee> imthenachoman, Yeah, the ubuntu wiki is your best help and any links there, fstab itself will have most of what you need to ee for this within other mounts.
[21:25] <wileee> see*
[21:26] <imthenachoman> wileee: i've checked those. none seem to tell me what Ubuntu WOULD have mounted it as. the only other way i can check is to do a fresh install again
[21:26] <wileee> imthenachoman, mounted it as means?
[21:26] <hexagonSun_> thank you both wileee and lotuspsychje for taking time to answer to me, now I have all of my programs working, including VirtualBox
[21:26] <wileee> cool
[21:27] <lotuspsychje> !yay | hexagonSun_
[21:27] <imthenachoman> wileee: what would the fstab entry for the drive look like if i had done a fresh install of ubuntu
[21:27] <wileee> imthenachoman, You actually have excellent help with lotuspsychje so lets let them do this really.
[21:28] <wileee> hare to confuse this is all
[21:28] <wileee> hate*
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> imthenachoman: this would be mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12685419/
[21:31] <imthenachoman> lotuspsychje: you only have one drive it looks like. i was wondering what the fstab is if there were 2 hd's at install
[21:32] <TJ-> imthenachoman: try this:  DEV=/dev/sdb1; echo "UUD=$(sudo blkid -s UUID -o value ${DEV}) /data $(sudo blkid -s TYPE -o value ${DEV}) defaults 0 2"
[21:32] <lotuspsychje> imthenachoman: same kind of line added, sdb, sdc
[21:32] <mrkie> is there any preinstalled program that supports .rar files to unpack?
[21:32] <Bashing-om> imthenachoman: An example of what the installer does " UUID=136af805-5758-4880-acc4-0e1d35e2c266 /var            ext4    defaults        0       2 " for a separate partition .
[21:32] <mrkie> i have ubuntu desktop
[21:32] <TJ-> imthenachoman: slight typo!  DEV=/dev/sdb1; echo "UUID=$(sudo blkid -s UUID -o value ${DEV}) /data $(sudo blkid -s TYPE -o value ${DEV}) defaults 0 2"
[21:32] <lotuspsychje> !info rar | mrkie
[21:32] <OerHeks> !info unrar
[21:33]  * OerHeks would not dare to install rar
[21:33] <mrkie> OerHeks :)
[21:33]  * lotuspsychje likes all ubuntu official packages :p
[21:34] <OerHeks> unrar is oke
[21:35] <imthenachoman> Bashing-om: thanks sir
[21:42] <quants> What are the commands to reset the operating system? I run 14.04 lts. Also can my software be saved?
[21:43] <lotuspsychje> quants: why do you want to reset?
[21:43] <quants> There seems to be to many issues going and I can't handle it
[21:44] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | quants
[21:44] <quants> All I want to do is get rid of any unnecessary files so the errors go away
[21:45] <quants> How do I recover?
[21:46] <hexagonSun_> thank you all! talk to you later
[21:46] <OerHeks> quants, there is no reset function in ubuntu/linux, if you messed up, reinstall.
[21:46] <TJ-> quants: either identify and fix the issues by analysing the log files, or reinstall fresh
[21:46] <Bashing-om> quants: The linux way is to fix the errors, the system provides lots of helps ; else one backs up personal data and re-installs . So, ya wanna fix ?
[21:48] <quants>  Well I think I'll reinstall as there are so many issues I can't fix, I am a noob :(
[21:49] <quants> I want to fix but it's all to much to cope with
[21:49] <Bashing-om> quants: Again my 2 cents. Fixing errors and soon one is no longer a noob .
[21:50] <TJ-> quants: when installing, choosing to separate /home/ to its own file-system makes reinstallation later much easier
[21:51] <quants> Agreed, It's the task seems so huge right now! Is there a way to do a clean of all the unnecessary crap?
[21:52] <OerHeks> quants, what is 'unnecassary crap'?? programs or what?
[21:52] <stegbth> hi,
[21:52] <stegbth> what means a ! in variables?
[21:52] <stegbth> for example: for in ${!mi*}; do
[21:53] <Bashing-om> quants: One starts with package management, get the system happy, then remove unwanted applications that you have installed . base system "should" remain the same . Else choose to install with a different DE .
[21:53] <TJ-> stegbth: In bash shell that expands to an array variable's key, instead of value
[21:54] <stegbth> TJ, what does the mean?
[21:54] <TJ-> stegbth: see "man bash" and the section on Arrays
[21:54] <quants> Bashing, I'll take a look at removing software I'm not using but the program manager isn't working
[21:56] <quants> The software centre even
[21:57] <Bashing-om> quants: Like said, that is the 1st thing . get the package manager happy . What results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install ' show the outputs in a pastebin and we see what it takes to make happy .
[21:57] <Bashing-om> !paste | quants
[21:57] <quants> Bashing ok I'll do that now for you
[21:58] <Bashing-om> quants: K; We are here to help you .
[21:58] <quants> You guys are great
[21:58] <stegbth> TJ, thank you, that was the point
[22:01] <dw1> hmm, win 7 doesnt recognize my ubuntu-made ntfs with very large files (5-6GB) on usb
[22:01] <dw1> it shows part of one file
[22:02]  * dw1 checks the copy again
[22:03] <Bashing-om> dw1: fat16 4 Gig limit ?
[22:03] <dw1> ntfs
[22:04] <dw1> another thing is when i copied two files totalling 13G the first file copied fast and the next one caused my CPU to spike to like 200% on both cores
[22:04] <dw1> 1. format usb stick to ntfs with disk tools 2. copy files to it 3. plug into windows
[22:04] <Bashing-om> dw1: opps, me and tunnel vision ..
[22:05] <OerHeks> dw1, copy 2 files simultaneously ?
[22:05] <dw1> guess it was <12G idk
[22:05] <dw1> yeah, via nautilus
[22:05] <dw1> file X of 2 and progress bar.. 40-15M/s to usb
[22:06] <dw1> but the files were there before i put it into windows
[22:06] <dw1> it wrecked em
[22:06] <OerHeks> I have seen that in the past too, one solution was copying one large file at the time.
[22:06] <dw1> i shall try it
[22:07] <Quantumpants> Bashing-om this is the result http://pastebin.com/VWafmS8m
[22:08] <k1l_> Quantumpants: so you are using kali? then ask the kali support please
[22:08] <Bashing-om> !kali
[22:09] <k1l_> especcially when the kali repos are beeing the issue here....
[22:09] <TJ-> dw1: Files get put in RAM cache when you're copying, then more slowly are flushed to the target device. To ensure all data is flushed you need to 'sync' and wait for it to return, and then unmount correctly, else data will be lost
[22:09] <Quantumpants> im not using kali, i use 14.04 but have eliments of kali in there.  i will be running kali in vertual box
[22:10] <dw1> TJ-: i heard about sync. nautilus has "safely eject" in the context i believe
[22:10] <dw1> i wasn't using sync though
[22:10] <dw1> so yeah that might be it
[22:10] <Quantumpants> bashing its not kali, i got some kali tools
[22:11] <dw1> crap i just ran it while copying :D
[22:11] <k1l_> Quantumpants: if you use the kali repos it will overide all the ubuntu packages.
[22:11] <Quantumpants> thats the problem then! shit im an idiot
[22:13] <Bashing-om> Quantumpants: No not idiot, just in the process of learning . No can do that .
[22:13] <dw1> is it bad to cancel a sync? this one's not responding
[22:13] <Quantumpants> how do i fix my mistake?
[22:14] <TJ-> dw1: I'd expect the GUI too's 'eject' to ensure the same thing was done in the background. USB 2 writes very slowly so if you don't have to wait a few minutes for it to complete, it hasn't flushed
[22:14] <Quantumpants> please tell me its easy
[22:14] <dw1> it finished. :)
[22:14] <marek_> hello world
[22:15] <TJ-> dw1: best thing if unsure is open a terminal and run "sync"
[22:16] <dw1> yeah i always use the eject and figured that would do it but no the sync takes a little time
[22:17] <Bashing-om> Quantumpants: 'Fraid in this case there is no fix - dependency hell is what you are in for . RE-install is the only viable option in the long run .
[22:17] <Quantumpants> ok, thats cool. we all learn from our mistakes
[22:23] <Bashing-om> Quantumpants: ^ True, and it only makes one the stronger .
[22:24] <marek_> hello
[22:29] <marek_> l
[22:31] <Bashing-om> marek_: Hello, your support question ?
[22:44] <Sacrelicious> guys I just purchased a sanson meteor USB mic, its not being recognized by ubuntu, any advice?
[22:45] <Ben64> unplug it, wait a bit, plug it in, wait another bit, then pastebin the output of "dmesg | tail -n42"
[22:46] <quants> Bashing I'm on
[22:47] <Sacrelicious> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/GBRwabdz
[22:48] <Ben64> Sacrelicious: doesn't look good
[22:48] <Sacrelicious> Ben64 no dice?
[22:49] <Ben64> can't even see where you plugged it in, so many errors
[22:49] <Sacrelicious> any idea what the cause might be?
[22:49] <Sacrelicious> i'm going to try reboot...
[22:51] <V3rdant> Hi, I'm having real problems with my network connection. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and a kernel version of 3.16. I have a Dlink DWA-548 PCI network card. I normally have a speed of 1Mb/s. I know this isn't my network because my 5 year old laptop gets speeds of 65Mb/s. I tried blacklisting the driver and trying others. I even downloaded and installed a driver from https://github.com/agerwick/RT28XX-RT539X-Linux-driver . Whenever I used a dr
[22:51] <V3rdant> iver that was not the original one (rt2800pci) the screen would freeze or completely go black. The only thing I haven't tried is ndiswrapper. Do you guys have any other suggestions?
[22:52] <Sacrelicious> Ben64,  what was the string I typed before I rebooted?
[22:53] <Ben64> Sacrelicious: dmesg
[22:54] <Solarbaby> I have a luks encrypted usb hard drive connected to my Ubuntu 14.04 HTPC.  When pressing the power button to shutdown the HTPS I would like to initiate a shutdown script to unmount my hard drive.  Should I do this with upstart?
[22:54] <Sacrelicious> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/BdHS0zNj
[22:55] <pota> hi
[22:55] <Solarbaby> HTPC I think it what I meant to say ;)
[22:55] <Ben64> Solarbaby: the normal shutdown process unmounts all drives
[22:56] <Solarbaby> Ben64 my drive is mounted manually upon every start
[22:56] <Ben64> Solarbaby: ok?
[22:56] <Solarbaby> Its a luks encrypted drive. so a password is required for mounting only
[22:57] <Ben64> i'm not seeing the relevance
[22:57] <Sacrelicious> Ben64, thats the new output...different from the last output.
[22:57] <Solarbaby> Ben64 this drive is not listed in /etc/fstab
[22:57] <Solarbaby> or whatever it is
[22:57] <Ben64> Sacrelicious: yep, did you unplug and replug again
[22:58] <Ben64> Solarbaby: yes you've said that in like 3 different ways now, its still not relevant
[22:58] <Solarbaby> Ben64I used a script to unmount the drive
[22:58] <Sacrelicious> Ben64, yeah, and rebooted. still not reading it though
[22:58] <Solarbaby> Ben64: I get the feeling we're just not clicking here :)
[22:58] <Ben64> Solarbaby: you're not understanding
[22:59] <Solarbaby> Ben64: I would like to understand.  I know my drive doesn't unmount by itself.
[22:59] <Ben64> it does
[22:59] <Ben64> every mount gets unmounted during shutdown
[23:00] <Solarbaby> Ben64: is there a way I can prove what you say is true when it comes to my Luks encrypted usb hard drive?
[23:00] <Ben64> Sacrelicious: unplug, plug back in, paste dmesg again
[23:00] <Ben64> Solarbaby: its part of the shutdown process, everything gets unmounted
[23:01] <Sacrelicious> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/tDx0NCNw
[23:01] <Solarbaby> Ben64: sounds like I need to read up on this.  Thanks for the heads up on that.
[23:02] <Ben64> Sacrelicious: looks like it sees it now
[23:02] <Solarbaby> Ben64: I guess what I need to do then is run a script to verify that it has been unmounted before a shutdown finishes
[23:02] <Ben64> Solarbaby: no
[23:03] <Sacrelicious> Ben64, any idea why its not available as an input device, even in volume control?
[23:03] <Ben64> Sacrelicious: not sure, but look at lines 417,418 ... it shows up as an input device
[23:04] <Sacrelicious> Ben64, just showed up on my list of devices...i have no idea why it took so long... thank you for your help.
[23:04] <a4lfr32> hi
[23:05] <Lexicade> Is there a way to interact with another users currently existing screen?
[23:11] <Solarbaby> Ben64: Here is something I read from guardianprojects that has me a bit concerned stil. Probably should make a script run during shutdown to cleanly "luksClose" the encrypted partition and then umount them. Not doing this is probably very crazy
[23:12] <Solarbaby> they were referring to internal user encrypted data though
[23:12] <Solarbaby> might be so different that it's not relevent
[23:28] <CalebW> I need help with executing some commands at startup
[23:28] <CalebW> I put them in /etc/rc.loacal
[23:28] <CalebW> rc.local
[23:30] <quants> Bashing-om: ok I'm in my iPad now ready
[23:31] <Bashing-om> quants: So, does the "check disk for defects" complete with no errors ?
[23:32] <quants> Hold on
[23:32] <quants> ......
[23:32] <CalebW> I'm trying to randomize my mac address on boot, but it's not working
[23:33] <Ben64> CalebW: why
[23:33] <CalebW> Why not?
[23:33] <Ben64> because there is no point
[23:34] <CalebW> Your device can't be tied to a certain mac
[23:34] <CalebW> Extra protection when browsing the web
[23:34] <Ben64> no, your mac address never makes it to the web
[23:35] <CalebW> It makes it to the router
[23:35] <Ben64> yep, so the only person who knows your mac address will be... you
[23:36] <CalebW> And the university blocked my mac address :/
[23:36] <Ben64> well then you should talk to the university
[23:36] <CalebW> Or I could just spoof my mac on boot
[23:36] <V3rdant> CalebW: Is this what you're looking for? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AnonymizingNetworkMACAddresses
[23:36] <quants> Bashing-om: I'm being told off by my wife for being up to late, sorry and thanks I'll chat soon I hope
[23:38] <CalebW> yes thank you
[23:38] <CalebW> But the e switch doesn't work
[23:41] <Bashing-om> quants: We can pick this up later . Good night .
[23:41] <CalebW> macchanger -e eth0 doesn't change  my address
[23:41] <CalebW> I've ran it several times
[23:41] <V3rdant> Are you on wifi or ethernet
[23:43] <CalebW> ethernet
[23:44] <CalebW> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12686192/
[23:44] <CalebW> That's after I ran the above command
[23:45] <noturno-anonymou> alguem ai?
[23:45] <Lexicade> Anyone know much about screens and seeting them up for multiusers?
[23:46] <V3rdant> Alright. Give me a second. I'm going to download Macchanger and see if I can get this to work. My laptop is also really terrible so we'll see how long this takes
[23:46] <user2> hi everybody, I need  some help. When I want to update it displays "There is not enough space left" then it says: " please use ... get clean" in fact it doesnt work out
[23:47] <Bashing-om> user2: Pastebin ' df -h ; df -i ' .
[23:48] <user2> ty, but nothing else?
[23:49] <Bashing-om> user2: That is to show where the space constraints are, depending then is what we do to get some operating room .
[23:52] <noturno-anonymou> oi
[23:52] <Bashing-om> user2: Do you need guidance on using "pastebin" ?
[23:53] <user2> yes, actually I am unexperienced when it comes to using linux
[23:54] <Bashing-om> user2: We all were at one time . No biggy, you will get over it .
[23:54] <Bashing-om> !paste | user2
[23:56] <Bashing-om> user2: ^ So do ' sudo apt-get install pastebinit ' to install the tool . once installed do ' df -h | pastebinit ' and ' df -i | pastebinit ' . the results will be URLs back in terminal. Pass those links back here in channel .
[23:58] <user2> I did something like that before. But it was way easier to do. Isn't ther a certain command for cleaning old files to get mre space for all the new data
[23:59] <Bashing-om> user2: IF df -h says that '/' root is full .. then there is a good chance that ' sudo apt-get autoremove' will resolve that situation .