[07:04] <lordievader> Good morning
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:12] <freeroute> hi BluesKaj
[12:12] <BluesKaj> hi freeroute
[13:56] <Alpha256> Hi, I upgraded to from vivid to Wily Beta2 -- I have a problem with installing 'aptitude' though --  aptitude : Depends: libxapian22v5 but it is not going to be installed
[13:58] <Alpha256> It seems that I have libxapian22 installed.  If I try to force install libxapian22v5 apt proposes to remove kubuntu-desktop....
[14:04] <Alpha256> In fact, there are more packages that are held back by this: akregator baloo-utils kaddressbook knotes kontact korganizer libbaloofiles4 libbaloopim4 libbalooxapian4 libqgpgme1 python-xapian synaptic
[14:04] <Alpha256> Any ideas on how to resolve this ?
[14:05] <Alpha256> Aptitude could probably help a bit more, but I can't install it for the same reason...
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Alpha256:  dist-upgrade will install the held packages
[14:07] <BluesKaj> use apt or apt-get aptitude is getting old
[14:07] <k1l> "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in a pastebin could give some clue
[14:08] <k1l> and aptitude is somewhat abandonded after several issues, iirc
[14:09] <BluesKaj> yeah, aptitude old , but it's still supported
[14:09] <BluesKaj> is old
[14:10] <Alpha256> dist-upgrade did not help in this case. I made some progress with apt remove libxapian22 (which took kubuntu-desktop); install libxapian22v5 kubuntu-desktop
[14:12] <BluesKaj> odd usually apt dist-upgrade will install held packages, unless there are dependency problems
[14:13] <BluesKaj> I have seldom used full-upgrade , and my packages are all up to date
[14:18] <k1l> BluesKaj: apt is the new apt-get
[14:19] <k1l> dist-upgrade was misleading to making a release upgrade, so some users avoid that. apt now calls it full-upgrade
[14:22] <BluesKaj> k1l:  yeah, Ive been using apt for a while now
[14:23] <BluesKaj> dist-upgrade use to be the command to upgrade to a new release, I remember using it many times
[14:24] <k1l> BluesKaj: well, apt-get was used differently in the old days. now we have do-release-upgrade and the gui programs.
[14:24] <k1l> iirc debian is still using "fiddeling with the sources.list and running dist-upgrade" to upgrade
[14:28] <BluesKaj> reverted  jessie for a while after plasma5/kf5 was mucking things up at it's beginning alpha release on kubuntu, but i didn't notice much difference with apt dist-upgrade
[14:34] <Alpha256> ok, I've got it resolved... It turned out aptitude resolved it ... I had to actually downgrade some packages that I still had lingering around from a CI ppa
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Alpha256:  comment the ppas in the sources.list or remove it , it will continue to cause problems otherwise
[14:37] <k1l> !ppapurge
[14:37] <BluesKaj> or remoce it from /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:37] <BluesKaj> remove
[15:25] <Troubadour> Hi there was a call for iso testing Ubuntu Studio 15:10, so I am trying (first time). I just installed Ubuntu studio Wily (daily build yesterday) in a Virtualbox. The recommended 8G storage was too small, 10G did it. What is the best way to report. (I get lost in the QA tracker website)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Troubadour:  which chat called for the testing of Ubuntu Studio 15:10?  perhaps #ubuntu-devel ?
[15:42] <Troubadour> No, it was in the ubuntustudio mailing lists
[15:45] <Troubadour> I also said this in #ubuntu-devel, I am getting some help there. Thx anyway
[15:45] <Troubadour> I mean #ubuntustudio-devel
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Troubadour:  right
[16:03] <goddard> i'm having an issues on wily werewolf but it is never registered as a bug.  Basically the laptop will wake from suspend properly, but then go back into a suspend mode at  │ bdmurray
[16:03] <goddard>                  | random intervals.  I have to wake it up by pressing a button on my keyboard and then it will wake up.  Shortly after that it will go into suspend on its own again.  It    │ beisner
[16:03] <goddard>                  | does this over and over again unless I reboot.y
[16:51] <goddard> anyone home?
[17:58] <goddard> la la la
[17:59] <goddard> i don't think unstable versions of Ubuntu will "Break your computer" btw
[17:59] <goddard> might break the operating system and make the computer unusable
[17:59] <goddard> without reinstall
[22:13] <tsimonq2> goddard: figure of speech ;)
[22:38] <goddard> tsimonq2: gotcha now help me with my bug :D
[22:43]  * tsimonq2 backs off