[04:21] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: nice1 mate: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/the-default-wallpapers-of-ubuntu-15-10-wily-werewolf-gallery-493511.shtml
[06:39] <DavidWed> Hello
[06:41] <DavidWed> Can I use QML in commercial projects ? I planed to develop an app with QML/C++.
[06:42] <duflu> DavidWed: I think the LGPL bits, yes. But I'm no expert... http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/licensing.html
[06:43] <DavidWed> Is there a chance to use another frontend than QML ? ( maybe HTML5 with c++ ) ?
[06:43] <DavidWed> thanks xD
[06:45] <duflu> DavidWed: Yes, technically you can use any toolkit that has a Mir backend. Or HTML5 will run in the browser
[06:48] <anpok> DavidWed: you can also just assemble qtquick objects programmatically... but not all properties are easily accessible that way
[06:48] <anpok> so you might end up falling to passing qml expression strings..
[06:48] <anpok> +back
[06:49] <DavidWed> hmm
[06:49] <DavidWed> thanks for respond
[06:49] <dholbach> good morning
[06:49] <anpok> i did spend some time on assembling a different frontend for qtquick
[06:50] <anpok> one of the problems is that for example the layouting bits are hidden in a substructure that can only be accessed through the private pimpl ptr from the actual quickitem class..
[07:01] <DavidWed> Just to be clear, the GTK+ 3.16 has a Mir backend. So I can develop my apps with GTK+ 3.16 ? Without QML ?
[07:05] <anpok> DavidWed: at the moment the gtk+ on the phone is missing an important piece..
[07:05] <anpok> that is support for the buffer types provided by the android drivers..
[07:06] <anpok> for that we need a somewhat larger change in cairo ..
[07:07] <anpok> and then someone would have to add the right theme to gtk.. and yeah then you still might be missing out some parts that are provided when you go with qt..
[07:12] <DavidWed> Did you estimate how long it will take to support the GTK+ ? Is there any other GUI frontend (with mir support) than QML, which could be used now ?
[07:27] <nhaines> lotuspsychje: thanks!
[08:54] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Teachers' Day! 😃
[09:17] <guest42315> welp unity-dash? died on mx4 ota6, i can't launch app or scroll but the rest is working, i can launch apps from the launcher and the app switcher still works
[09:17] <guest42315> also i see heavy lag :/
[09:19] <davmor2> guest42315: that'll possibly be the fd bug that was discovered, it is fixed for ota7 try rebooting your phone for now though
[09:19] <guest42315> davmor2, thanks! rebooting :P
[09:19] <popey> davmor2: have you seen a bug report for battery gauge in system settings, that it only shows a line for 50% of the time?
[09:20] <davmor2> popey: nope
[09:20] <popey> ota-6, does your battery gauge go back further than midnight?
[09:23] <davmor2> popey: checking
[09:24] <davmor2> popey: about 11:00 am yesterday
[09:29] <popey> davmor2: do does it stretch across the whole graph?
[09:30] <popey> welcome back john-mcaleely
[09:32] <davmor2> popey: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/battery.png
[09:32] <popey> hm, wonder why mine is stunted
[09:32] <popey> http://imgur.com/RYsRKKa
[09:33] <popey> also, the "Last full charge" is inaccurate
[09:33] <popey> it measures from the last moment you were at 100%, not the last moment you unplugged the device at 100%
[09:33] <popey> which could be hours apart
[09:39] <john-mcaleely> popey, thank you!
[11:18] <mardy> mvo: hi! Can you suggest a workaround for bug 1436368?
[11:18] <ubot5`> bug 1436368 in click (Ubuntu) "set PKG_CONFIG_PATH" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436368
[11:21] <mardy> mvo: oh, looks like adding that line to .bashrc does the trick :-) ignore this then ^ :-)
[11:24]  * mvo ignores as requested
[11:31] <mardy> mvo: ah, now I remember why that was enough
[11:31]  * mardy requests mvo to unignore :-)
[11:31] <mardy> mvo: it seems that .bashrc is not read if I do "click run cmake..."
[12:34] <Mirv> for anyone interested, it's again possible to run Qt 5.5 on the phone after doing one manual Unity 8 hack on qml files.
[12:34] <Mirv> getting here involves workarounding the current list of bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=qt5.5 that haven't received bugfixes yet, but it does run now
[12:35] <Mirv> even keyboard finally works so it's a bit easier to play around
[14:44] <atk33_> May can I ask something about the meizu mx4?
[14:45] <mcphail> atk33_: of course
[14:48] <atk33_> mcphail, do you know how to get in the preloader mode?
[14:49] <mcphail> atk33_: I don't have an mx4, but there will be a few people on here who do. If you lurk for a while, someone is likely to tell you
[14:49] <atk33_> thanks mcphail
[14:56] <Inoki> Hello, an ETA for the next OTA? Topic doesn't say.
[14:56] <robin-hero> Inoki: It is 19th October.
[14:57] <Inoki> robin-hero: thank you!
[14:58] <awe_> mterry, any WiFi feedback from over the weekend?
[14:59] <robin-hero> Is the fix released for this bug to the rc-proposed channel? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-push/+bug/1469398
[14:59] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1469398 in Canonical System Image "Push-client should be disabled when no network connection" [High,Fix committed]
[14:59] <robin-hero> because I don't find it in the rc-propsed change log
[15:00] <mterry> awe_, I commented on the silo -- doesn't seem to solve the CPU issue.  Or super noticably change it.  :(
[15:00] <mterry> awe_, was there anything else in that PPA I tested a while ago?  Or was I just experiencing a solar flare situation?
[15:02] <awe_> solar flare... unfortunately
[15:02] <awe_> so when you hit this, you just headed to central square, and walking around, the phone became unusable?
[15:03] <awe_> what app were you running?
[15:03] <awe_> and did you capture any dbus traffic while doing so?
[16:47] <mterry> popey, your openstreetmap webapp doesn't have the optional "www." in its url regex.  So when I click the "login" button, I get redirected to the browser app
[17:09] <popey> mterry: thanks, will fix
[17:18] <popey> mterry: guess I should add all those other login methods :S
[17:20] <popey> mterry: turns out I didn't have the problem because I had 0.8 on my phone and have had for months, but forgot to upload it :) - now done
[17:21] <mterry> popey, hah  :)
[17:21] <popey> :)
[17:39] <TonyBoston> I'm getting a weird message that my contact sync account has to be upgraded
[17:40] <TonyBoston> did we have any changes in syncevolution?
[17:48] <pmcgowan> TonyBoston, yes we moved to buteo, did it update correctly?
[17:49] <TonyBoston> pmcgowan, it did update but I can't seem to upgrade the mentioned contacts sync db
[17:50] <ahayzen> pmcgowan, i just did mine and it said it 'failed' 3 times but i kept hitting retry and it succeeded on the fourth attempt
[17:51] <TonyBoston> I have that reload button with a point in the middle in the contacts app
[17:52] <davmor2> TonyBoston: what account were you using to sync with?
[17:53] <TonyBoston> davmor2, 3 owncloud calendars and one owncloud contact
[17:54] <davmor2> TonyBoston: that might be why it is only doing google accounts renatu ^
[17:54] <TonyBoston> hmm?
[17:56] <renatu> TonyBoston, which online account do you have configured on your device?
[17:57] <TonyBoston> renatu, ubuntu one only
[17:57] <TonyBoston> renatu, I did configure syncevolution to have my owncloud synced
[17:57] <renatu> TonyBoston, this should not cause any problem
[17:58] <renatu> let me take a look on the code and see if this could cause any problem
[17:58] <TonyBoston> renatu, yeah now I am getting this message where it says that my contacts sync has to be upgraded
[17:58] <pmcgowan> TonyBoston, contacts app you mean?
[17:59] <TonyBoston> pmcgowan, the contacts app is throwing the error yes
[17:59] <pmcgowan> TonyBoston, does the message say contacts app needs to be upgraded?
[17:59] <TonyBoston> and it reads that I can only edit local contacts
[17:59] <davmor2> ahayzen: did you have a steady interent connection, I was trying to reproduce an issue and only got that message when I was switching flight mode on and off
[18:00] <TonyBoston> pmcgowan, I could make a screenshot of the message
[18:00] <ahayzen> davmor2, yeah i did, it was doing it while booting though so i wonder if that was the issue
[18:00] <TonyBoston> where would I upload that?
[18:00] <davmor2> ahayzen: possibly
[18:01] <davmor2> TonyBoston: is it the message in the messaging indicator?
[18:02] <TonyBoston> davmor2, there was one once yes, now its a pop up
[18:03] <davmor2> TonyBoston: any image upload site, we'd just need a link to see it
[18:06] <renatu> TonyBoston, could you past the result of: account-console list
[18:11] <renatu> davmor2, TonyBoston, yes I can confirm that if you have extra sources on your EDS that is created from external tools this could cause the upgrade to fail
[18:11] <renatu> davmor2, I will fix that
[18:12] <davmor2> renatu: nice one
[18:12] <TonyBoston> renatu, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/275014/
[18:13] <TonyBoston> davmor2, so imgur isnt working for me, any other suggestions for uploading images?
[18:14] <davmor2> TonyBoston: http://imagebin.ca/
[18:15] <TonyBoston> davmor2, thanks
[18:19] <TonyBoston> davmor2, doens't work eithere
[18:19] <TonyBoston> might have some java issues
[18:20] <davmor2> TonyBoston: just mail it dave.morley@canonical.com
[18:20] <TonyBoston> davmor2, okay cool
[18:21] <TonyBoston> davmor2, should be there
[18:25] <davmor2> TonyBoston, pmcgowan, renatu: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/address_issue_witho_owncloud.png
[18:25] <TonyBoston> I should have picked another background :)
[18:30] <TonyBoston> davmor2, please check your mail
[18:33] <davmor2> TonyBoston, pmcgowan, renatu: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/account_issue_with_owncloud2.png
[18:33] <davmor2> TonyBoston: do you want the other taking down then
[18:34] <TonyBoston> davmor2, yes please
[18:34] <davmor2> done
[18:35] <TonyBoston> thx
[18:39] <renatu> davlefou, TonyBoston, yes this will appear until the app get updated
[18:39] <renatu> davmor2, ^^^
[18:39] <renatu> davlefou, wrong nick, sorry
[18:39] <renatu> TonyBoston, working to fix your use case
[18:40] <TonyBoston> renatu, okay
[18:40] <TonyBoston> renatu, is there any documentation for buteo?
[18:40] <renatu> TonyBoston, syncevolution will still working for manual sync
[18:41] <TonyBoston> renatu, manual sync is not what I need
[18:41] <TonyBoston> sync should be automated
[18:41] <TonyBoston> don't you think?
[18:41] <renatu> TonyBoston, we intend to implement owncloud support for buteo in the future
[18:42] <TonyBoston> renatu, any workaround for now? as this is the only think I really need
[18:42] <TonyBoston> thing*
[18:42] <renatu> TonyBoston, you can keep using syncevolution as you have been using
[18:43] <TonyBoston> renatu, okay cool
[18:43] <renatu> TonyBoston, I will fix the update to not cause problem with the sync-evolution sources
[18:44] <TonyBoston> renatu, seems that there isn't an issue with calendars though
[18:44] <TonyBoston> so at least I don't have issues so far
[18:44] <renatu> TonyBoston, yeah we did not port calendar sync yet
[18:58] <TonyBoston> oh man
[18:59] <TonyBoston> launchpad is so confusing
[19:00] <TonyBoston> how can I "switch" to ubuntu touch?
[19:01] <dobey> switch from what?
[19:02] <TonyBoston> https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[19:02] <TonyBoston> I don't see a difference between "ubuntu" bugs and "touch stuff"
[19:02] <dobey> there isn't
[19:02] <dobey> there is no ubuntu touch. it's only ubuntu
[19:02] <TonyBoston> I know
[19:02] <TonyBoston> but its different anyway
[19:03] <dobey> if you want to report a bug against a specific package, report it against that package in ubuntu
[19:03] <dobey> if it's a click, then you need to report it against the upstream project
[19:03] <dobey> ifit's a general bug you don't know where to report, i guess you can report it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image
[19:04] <TonyBoston> thanks for making that clear
[19:04] <TonyBoston> but still, its confusing
[19:05] <dobey> yeah, i don't know if there will be something invented simialr to "distributions" in launchpad, so that we can have bugs filed against each different image, and deal with differences between package formats
[19:05] <dobey> would make it easier, but it's a very hard problem itself i guess :)
[19:06] <TonyBoston> sure is hard
[19:07] <TonyBoston> but there are distribution which have done that
[19:16] <dobey> no, i don't think so
[19:25] <pmcgowan> dobey, is the Maintainer in LP the only one that can approve MRs and such
[19:26] <dobey> no
[19:27] <dobey> pmcgowan: are you asking about the upstart branch?
[19:27] <pmcgowan> no in general
[19:27] <pmcgowan> trying to understand why I can approve some and not others
[19:27] <dobey> in general, the owner of the target branch is the only one whom can approve MPs
[19:28] <pmcgowan> where do I see who the branch owner is
[19:28] <dobey> the "~foo" part of the branch url is the owner. or just click on the branch link, and it tells you on the resulting page
[19:29] <pmcgowan> dobey, I see, and how does that ownership get configured
[19:30] <dobey> by default the owner(s) of a branch are the only ones whom can approve MPs into it. the "default reviewer" for a branch can also be changed, and then whomever that is may also approve MPs
[19:30] <pmcgowan> need to adjust some branches
[19:30] <pmcgowan> ok
[19:30] <pmcgowan> thanks
[19:30] <dobey> you might need to adjust default reviewer, probably don't need to change the owner. but i don't know which ones you're concerned about
[19:31] <pmcgowan> dobey, that answers my question ty
[19:31] <dobey> if it's for branches in lp:ubuntu/ then you need to become a motu or coredev :)