[07:31] <Moodoo> morning all
[07:31] <SuperMatt> nirbubg
[07:32] <SuperMatt> morning
[07:32] <zmoylan-pi> half eight and it's dark enough to need a light on... morning indeed :-)
[07:32] <SuperMatt> fingers entirely in the wrong place there
[07:32] <zmoylan-pi> just say it's a code to drive the nsa nuts, that's what i do when that happens :-P
[07:32] <SuperMatt> I don't normally have an issue with fingering
[07:33] <zmoylan-pi> someone moved your chair or keyboard 1cm
[07:33] <Moodoo> i still struggle with displat sometimes lol
[07:34] <SuperMatt> I know I have the littlel nipples on my f and j, but it doesn't mean I remember that they're ther
[07:35] <SuperMatt> +e
[08:10] <diplo> Morning all
[08:40] <Moodoo> howdy diplo
[08:40] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:41] <Moodoo> howdy davmor2
[08:41] <davmor2> So Moodoo I blame you entirely
[08:41] <davmor2> Moodoo: 33 13 :(
[08:42] <Moodoo> that's fine, what did I do this time?
[08:42] <Moodoo> ah well we played crap against a far superior team
[08:45] <davmor2> Moodoo: and your excuse for Defeat against Wales?
[08:46] <davmor2> Moodoo: I mean kicked out of our own world cup in the qualifiers that's worse than the football team ;)
[08:46] <Moodoo> davmor2: bad captain decisions against wales...we should of won that one.
[08:49] <davmor2> Moodoo: so we fire you as captain and have a winning team again is that what you're saying?
[08:49] <Moodoo> i've quit already
[08:50] <davmor2> Moodoo: Good man it's for the sake of the countries pride ;)
[08:53] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Teachers' Day! 😃
[08:54] <zmoylan-1i> it's a lie, there are no happy teachers
[08:55] <davmor2> Moodoo: now see if you get this one this time, JamesTait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg
[08:56] <JamesTait> Now why is YouTube asking me to activate Flash?
[08:56] <davmor2> zmoylan-1i: I don't know the CEO  of teachers is pretty happy
[08:57] <davmor2> JamesTait: might be an old video that is still flash maybe
[08:57] <davmor2> JamesTait: although it is working fine here on chromium
[08:59] <JamesTait> Good start to the week, though.
[09:01] <davmor2> JamesTait: were you able to see it in the end?
[09:01] <JamesTait> I just allowed Flash. I've got the plugin set to always ask.
[09:02] <davmor2> JamesTait: hahaha
[09:02] <JamesTait> I'm stunned by how many apparently plain sites ask for permission to activate Flash.
[09:02] <JamesTait> Click tracking/analytics, I assume.
[09:02] <davmor2> JamesTait: I think the chorus is very apt for teachers day :)
[09:03] <diplo> Anyone run mate or mint in VirtualBox under Ubunut ?
[09:03] <diplo> Just wondering if or how well it works
[09:03] <popey> i have a MATE VM under Ubuntu, works fine.
[09:04] <diplo> Great t
[09:05] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls
[09:05] <diplo> ta*
[09:09] <diplo> Anyone also recommend a self hosted pastebin ?
[09:13] <bashrc> 0bin
[09:13] <diplo> heh, actually on their github page now
[09:14] <diplo> None of them have been update in a long time, although thats not the end of the world
[09:15] <diplo> It's only going to be use internally so not overly worried
[09:15] <brobostigon> alternative one: make your own.
[09:16] <diplo> I've debated that too brobostigon or branching one of those ( sorry forking )
[09:16] <brobostigon> :)
[09:31] <davmor2> JamesTait: there is always https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNIZofPB8ZM  but he is not sound so happy :)
[09:33] <JamesTait> davmor2, https://youtu.be/HrxX9TBj2zY
[09:35] <davmor2> JamesTait: yeah I guess that would make teachers happy or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oo8QzDHimQ
[09:39] <davmor2> Moodoo: see how the videos follow the theme of the day ;)
[09:55] <diplo> Mint and Mate installing, see if I can kill my PC :)
[09:56] <bashrc> depends how old it is, but Mate is lightweight
[09:56] <diplo> heh it's an old Optiplex with 6gb of ram, dies by the end of the week normally :)
[09:57] <diplo> I'm interested in Mate to try on my PC and we use Mint at some customer sites and want to write some documentation up
[09:57] <bashrc> Because Mate is really just Gnome 2 it should run well even on pretty ancient hardware, and the ram consumption isn't high
[09:58] <daftykins> diplo: dies o0
[09:58] <daftykins> also why Mint :(
[09:58] <Laney> been on phone to a dell 0844 number for about 30 minutes now
[09:58]  * Laney weeps for his phone bill
[09:58] <daftykins> haha, should've used skype
[09:58] <diplo> daftykins: I had no say in it.. was installed by our headoffice on what are basically rebranded Gems
[09:58] <daftykins> i just used skype to call Onkyo in Germany about my faulty subwoofer
[09:58] <Laney> can you call those for free?
[09:58] <diplo> NUCS*
[09:58] <daftykins> i dunno, but often my skype balance doesn't even change with most service numbers
[09:59] <Laney> just put it in the included minutes already :@
[09:59] <Laney> bloody three
[09:59] <daftykins> i take it it's not for work, if on your mobile?
[10:00] <diplo> Well Mint has failed already... needs more than 8.6 of free space :D
[10:00] <daftykins> it what O_O
[10:00] <daftykins> DVD edition or something?
[10:01] <diplo> Maybe... but Mate is defo dvd version and installing fine :)
[10:01] <davmor2> diplo: if it's an older system you might be better off with something like lubuntu or xubuntu
[10:01] <diplo> Better recreate a bigger image i guess
[10:01] <Laney> just looked at the timer
[10:01] <daftykins> image?
[10:02] <Laney> it's actually 42 minutes
[10:02] <Laney> GOD
[10:02] <diplo> Nah this is in a VM for writing up for docs, they're running Mint on NUCS that are rebranded
[10:03] <diplo> Customers appear to like it... although I'm the only person at work that runs linux on the desktop, so want to write up notes so I don't get asked to much :)
[10:03] <diplo> As nobody else bothers
[10:03] <daftykins> :) sounds like a plan
[10:03] <daftykins> then all you need to do is convince them to read them before asking things
[10:03] <diplo> Upto about 500 pages I think now of docs since I started
[10:04] <daftykins> !
[10:04] <diplo> I've had some success in that too!!!
[10:04]  * daftykins gasps
[10:04] <diplo> The company is 25-30 years old, in the last year I've written more documentation than they have in the last 30 :D
[10:06] <Laney>  Calls, texts, downloads & Euro Internet Pass £17.46
[10:06] <diplo> Best screenshot app now adays on Ubuntu ?
[10:06] <Laney> WTF
[10:06] <zmoylan-pi> ...convince them to read them before asking things...
[10:06]  * zmoylan-pi sees flaw in plan...
[10:06] <diplo> Use Snipping Tool on windows mainly :)
[10:07] <diplo> zmoylan-pi: I got asked how to "Add a printer" recently docs, one of the guys that always passes on calls was told to read it and did it himself.. so tis working!! :D
[10:13] <daftykins> snipping tool \o/
[10:14] <diplo> OK mint going on now :)
[10:15] <zmoylan-pi> fingers crossed... just in case...
[10:15] <daftykins> makes me giggle a bit the way you referred to a machine with 6GB RAM, we had someone come in #ubuntu the other day wanting to put something on a 1GHz celeron with 256MB
[10:15] <daftykins> i tried to point out it wasn't even worth it, as my own tests showed you end up with 4MB free after boot
[10:15] <daftykins> so it'd be one swaptastic experience :)
[10:16] <zmoylan-pi> dump the pc with 256mb and get a rasp pi :-)
[10:16] <daftykins> oy, £60 this company in London wants to repair my subwoofer
[10:16] <daftykins> what a joke
[10:16] <diplo> Bad thing is this is *my* old PC, not a work supplied one
[10:16] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: hah yeah, that might actually be an improvement
[10:17] <bashrc> daftykins: tinycore!
[10:17] <daftykins> nah, it's just not even worth enabling folk like that
[10:17] <zmoylan-pi> i used a 1gb netbook as main system till about 3 months ago.  if you even browse the web you'll need more than 1gb
[10:18] <daftykins> yeah and forget flash of any variety
[10:18] <zmoylan-pi> oh i could play flash games in 1gb, i just had to close the browser afterwards to free the memory
[10:18] <daftykins> speaking of, anyone watch any twitch feeds at all? livestreamer to pipe an HLS feed into a decent media player is amazing in comparison to the horrific flash player they use :)
[10:18] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: :D
[10:19] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: thing with using kit like that, surely it's just too painful for someone such as yourself who knows what they're doing?
[10:19]  * bashrc remembers a time when 1GHz was insanely great
[10:19] <daftykins> i know i can't even tolerate anything non-SSD now
[10:19] <daftykins> bashrc: i think we all do :)
[10:21] <daftykins> still recall a mate had a 1GHz AMD Athlon when i had an 800MHz PIII
[10:21] <daftykins> er, 600 @ 800 :>
[10:23] <zmoylan-pi> my home pc was a 350mhz amd k6-2 when everyone was using piii's  was an overnight job to rip a cd to mp3s :-)
[10:23] <bashrc> the bad old days
[10:23] <daftykins> could that even play >128Kbps in realtime? :)
[10:23] <zmoylan-pi> nah, it was a grand little system.  it worked and was incredibly cheap
[10:24] <zmoylan-pi> 16mb ram iirc
[10:24] <zmoylan-pi> or was it 32...
[10:26] <bashrc> (queue four yorkshiremen sketch)
[10:28] <zmoylan-pi> i carried that pc home a few miles on foot... uphill... :-)
[10:28] <daftykins> in the snow?
[10:28] <daftykins> it has to be in the snow...
[10:28] <zmoylan-pi> cut my handy horribly from cheap nasty case
[10:28] <daftykins> i used to consider that initiation on any new build
[10:29] <daftykins> it wasn't going to be troubleshooting free unless you'd zipped yourself somewhere along the line
[10:29] <zmoylan-pi> for me it was static shocks
[10:29] <daftykins> ouch! guess you had to use static precautions suffering from that?
[10:29] <daftykins> i should probably take that more seriously, i've never had any issues but who knows if a small bit of carelessness here and there could've brought an untimely demise to my own gear
[10:30] <zmoylan-pi> only when i was opening them, when i was just installing software i never saw the point till i got zapped
[10:30] <diplo> I really want to get a SSD for my Dell D820 ( yes I know I need a new laptop at home! )
[10:31] <daftykins> :) SSDs are great
[10:31] <diplo> But I can't decide what is the right one for it, discussion seems be different all over
[10:31] <diplo> Hardware is old
[10:31] <daftykins> what's so special to complicate an SSD choice?
[10:31] <diplo> Quite happy with something tiny tbh
[10:31] <diplo> Age of the laptop afaik
[10:31] <daftykins> bad enough to be SATA 1.5Gb/sec, or?
[10:32] <diplo> Will google, not looked in a while
[10:32] <popey> any ssd will improve that laptop
[10:32] <daftykins> i'd get yourself a cheap and cheerful Crucial drive if i were you
[10:32] <daftykins> perhaps a BX100 128GB+
[10:32] <diplo> yeah, I think it was something to do with ahci ?
[10:33] <daftykins> oh i wouldn't worry about that, you don't need AHCI capable kit to run an SSD
[10:33] <diplo> £45 sound cheap ?
[10:34] <daftykins> that Crucial direct? often their own kit is cheaper on amazon
[10:34] <daftykins> though i might be thinking in my pesky VAT free ways ;)
[10:34] <diplo> nah first link clicked ( pixmania I think, checking amazon now )
[10:34] <diplo> £49 on Amazon
[10:34] <daftykins> ah right
[10:35] <daftykins> may i see?
[10:35] <popey> I'd avoid pixmania
[10:35] <daftykins> bit iffy is it? i was never sure based on the site
[10:35] <popey> I bought something from them and they wanted a scan of my passport
[10:35] <daftykins> :S
[10:35] <diplo> hehe looking on other machine but Anmazon will do.. quite happy with that
[10:35] <daftykins> that sounds ridiculous
[10:35] <diplo> Really?!?! I probably wouldn't use them then
[10:35] <diplo> I'll order one up later
[10:37] <diplo> Quite happy if they did a smaller one, I sync my claibre library and use terminator on it and that's about it :)
[10:37] <diplo> But they've come down loads in price now!!
[10:37] <daftykins> is this the kind of target machine? http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Latitude-D820-2160-60gb/dp/B001QVDPN6
[10:37] <daftykins> they certainly have, only going to get better too
[10:37] <diplo> Yup, looking at link ( just opening! ) has a 60gb drive currently
[10:38] <daftykins> the advent of third generation 3D V-NAND already from Samsung is really pushing the capacity and reliability
[10:38] <diplo> yeah apart from the Quadro, that's it
[10:38] <daftykins> *nod* a BX100 would pep it up very nicely
[10:38] <zmoylan-pi> my god 60gb... my usb drive is bigger than that... :-)
[10:38] <daftykins> XD
[10:38] <diplo> And mine has a 2.* CPU
[10:38] <diplo> Would like to put more ram in it, but last time I checked it was oh my expensive :)
[10:39] <daftykins> mmm probably DDR2 still?
[10:39] <diplo> zmoylan-pi: It was good in its time :) spend most of my money on kids stuff not mine
[10:39] <diplo> Yep
[10:39] <daftykins> i'm still running my 8 year old core 2 quad, thankfully got 8GB RAM in each this and my core 2 duo file server
[10:39] <daftykins> ah no server has 4GB actually
[10:40] <daftykins> much to my VMing dismay
[10:40] <zmoylan-pi> nothing sucks up ram quicker than a vm... or a badly written adobe app...
[10:40] <daftykins> or a modern browser :D
[10:41] <zmoylan-pi> in the case of browsers is it the browser or the sites that assume that you'll only ever have their page open?
[10:42] <daftykins> :) a client likes keeping the FT open, along with around 20 articles he's never going to get around to reading, the flash ads in the pages were causing firefox to crash at least daily until i put an adblocker on
[10:43] <zmoylan-pi> that's the internets way of reminding you to install an ad blocker or a flash blocker
[10:43] <daftykins> having a decent spec machine is making him develop some very bad habits :D
[10:43] <bashrc> flash is evil
[10:43] <daftykins> mmm, could've achieved the same by enabling 'ask to activate' on flash i guess
[11:13] <diplo> Can't get ride of software running in rendering mode on Mint, only want to take screenshots.. I don't care :D
[12:10] <Buntusimpleton> pls can someone help me by talking me through installing a tarball
[12:12] <popey> Buntusimpleton: what is it you're trying to install?
[12:12] <Buntusimpleton> mendeley
[12:12] <Buntusimpleton> its a reference managing program (am writing my dissertation)
[12:13] <popey> there's a deb for ubuntu
[12:13] <popey> https://www.mendeley.com/download-mendeley-desktop/ubuntu/instructions/
[12:18] <Buntusimpleton> thanks popey
[13:42] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[13:46] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[13:46] <bigcalm> Bah
[14:00] <davmor2> bigcalm: okay we heard you the first time ;)
[14:00] <bigcalm> :P
[14:00] <bigcalm> Trigger happy
[14:01] <TwistedLucidity> emacs
[14:01] <davmor2> bigcalm: try using a keyboard an mouse rather than a gun it might be better
[14:01] <TwistedLucidity> Rats, wrong window
[14:03] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: oh your the user
[14:06] <diplo> hehehe
[14:11] <bigcalm> !isitoutyet
[14:11] <lubotu3`> Error: unresolvable <alias> to isitout-#ubuntu-release-party
[14:11] <bigcalm> ¬.¬
[14:12] <bigcalm> Not that I use anything other than LTS these days
[14:15] <davmor2> bigcalm: https://imgflip.com/i/s2nku
[14:16] <bigcalm> davmor2: this Thursday or next week?
[14:16] <davmor2> bigcalm: 22nd
[14:17] <bigcalm> Oh, yes. Late in the month
[14:17] <bigcalm> It was only 10.10 that was released on the 10th
[15:32] <diddledan> mernign
[15:34] <popey> pip pip
[15:34] <zmoylan-pi> *beep beep*
[15:35] <Myrtti> bleep
[15:35] <daftykins> time to go fill out 20 forms in triplicate at the post office to send a hard disk for RMA ¬_¬
[15:36] <daftykins> think i'd find it easier posting a homemade clock *whistle*
[15:36]  * zmoylan-pi digs whole in bog for forms to be composted in
[15:36] <Myrtti> I just filled out a form online and now I have to wait for a letter that's going to tell me to mail my passport away
[15:37] <davmor2> popey: Tallyho
[15:37] <zmoylan-pi> i was tempted to send this clock to a mate in the uk... :-) http://www.waycoolgadgets.com/dynamite-alarm-clock/
[15:37] <zmoylan-pi> from ireland...
[15:37] <daftykins> :)
[15:37] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: wow
[15:38] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: I want one
[16:07] <NET||abuse> hey guys. i'm having a little xorg trouble. i have xps 15, intel/nvidia optimus machine
[16:08] <NET||abuse> i upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 and i had bumblebee working pretty well, and intel performance seemed fine, but i'm getting 1. intel video choppyness (youtube/netflix etc) and general lousy performance on desktop once i have a few different apps open.
[16:08] <NET||abuse> 2. optimus driver issues, device not found errors
[16:10] <NET||abuse> bumbleed is failing to start
[16:14] <Myrtti> bumblebee is IMO deprecated anyway
[16:18] <NET||abuse> ? really
[16:18] <NET||abuse> @Myrtti by what?
[16:20] <Myrtti> s/IMO/IIRC/
[16:25] <NET||abuse> If you recall, ok, but what do you recall it being replaced by?
[16:26] <NET||abuse>  if there is something else,, awesome, i have to know :)
[16:27] <daftykins> NET||abuse: by nvidia-prime, has been for ages
[16:28] <daftykins> install nvidia-331 or above and it should pull in nvidia-prime with it, which'll function well typically on optimus setups with 14.04+
[16:28] <NET||abuse> are you sure? i thought bumblebee worked in conjunction with optirun or primusrun
[16:28] <daftykins> probably even 12.04.2 but we don't worry about that ;)
[16:28] <daftykins> i've been advising and solving peoples issues with optimus laptops in #ubuntu for a couple of years now, pushing nvidia-prime
[16:28] <daftykins> so yeah
[16:29] <Myrtti> the HiDPI problems still are infuriating
[16:29] <NET||abuse> I think this is something i'm just a bit unclear of,, i want to use intel for my desktop and just use the nvidia card for an accelerated apps.
[16:29] <daftykins> there is still a lot of variance in optimus implementations of course
[16:29] <Myrtti> I'm just happy I've got XPS13 9333, not XPS15 9540 or whatever my husband has
[16:29] <daftykins> yeah nvidia-settings will gain some choice settings once -prime is on
[16:29] <NET||abuse> i thought nvidia-primus forced the nvidia card to be used from the start of X
[16:30] <NET||abuse> or am I wrong and nvidia-primus allows for card switching?
[16:30] <daftykins> Myrtti: ah now you've had a lot more time with it, have you gotten anything close to the 12hrs (QHD) or 15hrs (FHD) Windows does?
[16:30] <daftykins> not primus, nvidia-prime :)
[16:30] <NET||abuse> oh right.
[16:31] <NET||abuse> daftykins: so nvidia-prime DOES allow card switching, so i can run intel for most stuff,, and then nvidia for games/ high res video playback, or something.
[16:31] <daftykins> i can only suggest giving it a go, i own an optimus laptop myself but don't run Linux on it
[16:31] <daftykins> i think so yeah
[16:31] <Myrtti> daftykins: well it seems to last a considerable time but I've not really tested it that much, I doubt 15hrs is close to reality tho
[16:32] <daftykins> it truly is in Windows
[16:32] <daftykins> i'm talking real world, review on anandtech.com
[16:32] <Myrtti> yeah I doubt it's reality on Ubuntu
[16:32] <daftykins> *nod*
[16:33] <Myrtti> I can try the next time I try to control our 3D printer with Octoprint :-D
[16:33] <Myrtti> pending on when we get our home office sorted and cleaned, it's a semi chaotic dumpster right now
[16:42] <daftykins> no wired LAN is still a dealbreaker for me though :)
[16:43] <Myrtti> dsample had to resort into using an old USB-to-Ethernet bobble when he reinstalled Ubuntu on the weekend
[16:44] <NET||abuse> daftykins: plugable usb3 gigabit usb adapter :)
[16:44] <daftykins> yeah those aren't acceptable to me.
[16:44] <NET||abuse> fair nuff, seen some good usb extenders with built in gig ethernet adapters too
[16:44] <daftykins> imo Dell made a huge mistake there, because even the Lenovo X1 carbon has wired still there, just a little adapter cable to reduce the socket
[16:45] <Myrtti> I just value the portability so much. It's been such a pleasure to have a laptop so light when traveling
[16:45] <daftykins> i tried amazon for 10gigE cards and switches today :D still not a thing :(
[16:45] <daftykins> or not reasonable, anyway
[16:46] <NET||abuse> haha, that would be awesome
[16:46] <daftykins> mmm, my few year old asus isn't bad - https://www.asus.com/media/global/products/9g7Gx4mX49JhUUJ7/P_500.jpg
[16:46] <NET||abuse> Myrtti: yeh, i've switched back and forward btween the 13 and the 15,,, the 13 is really excellent portability wise
[16:46] <Myrtti> this reminds me of an Amazon search I meant to do
[16:46] <daftykins> that's the one with optimus
[16:47] <Myrtti> NET||abuse: that, and because I don't really play games, the non-hassle of having just plain Intel sealed the deal for me
[16:47] <daftykins> i got a 12.5" Lenovo X240 for a client, he loves it but it's still got some thickness and heft to it
[16:47] <NET||abuse> I'd love to have a look at one of those.
[16:48] <daftykins> got the X1 carbon for his wife as she needed portability over all else, really
[16:48] <daftykins> both were about £1,200 without VAT too
[16:48] <Myrtti> also, eBay is a great thing. We bought this XPS13 last year from eBay refurber and it has onsite Dell support
[16:48] <NET||abuse> old xps 13?
[16:48] <daftykins> mmm i was quite jealous of that :)
[16:48] <daftykins> would've worked out very cheap
[16:48] <Myrtti> NET||abuse: 9333
[16:50] <NET||abuse> ahhh, i got the 9343
[16:50] <Myrtti> http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/ecomputers.ltd?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
[16:50] <NET||abuse> it's been absolutely excellent
[16:50] <Myrtti> hubby bought the XPS15 straight from Dell
[16:51] <Myrtti> he's had quite a bit of trouble with his
[16:51] <daftykins> omw, there's an FHD 9343 on there right now for £780 :O
[16:51] <NET||abuse> yeh, i want the higher dpi UHD screen
[16:51] <daftykins> i'd rather the 15hrs battery 8D
[16:52] <NET||abuse> but the batery will run for sooo long with the FHD
[16:54]  * arsenip pokes daftykins with his macbook12 :p
[16:55] <bashrc> cmake -D CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=RELEASE -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local -D WITH_FFMPEG=OFF -D WITH_QT=OFF -D WITH_OPENGL=ON ..
[16:55] <daftykins> arsenip: pfft
[16:55] <daftykins> arsenip: i'm over on Thursday if you're not busy :o
[16:55] <arsenip> orly, where at?
[16:56] <daftykins> gatwick ~9am
[16:56] <daftykins> will be headed for Brighton for the eve, but not got any plans for the day now
[16:56] <arsenip> just for the day?
[16:56] <daftykins> nah 'til Monday
[18:00] <davmor2> hmmm proper home made Jamaican curried chicken from someone who knows how to cook it is glorious
[18:40]  * directhex hands davmor2 a goat corpse
[18:40] <davmor2> directhex: don't tempt me she does that better than the chicken
[19:20] <diddledan> this is pretty accurate: https://xkcd.com/1181/
[19:41] <davmor2> diddledan: No it's not obvious enough
[20:04] <foobarry> how can i watch the panorama that was just on?
[20:04] <foobarry> iplayer doesn't have it yet
[20:04] <diddledan> foobarry: I think you just have to wait
[20:07] <StevenR_> foobarry: wait for an hour or so
[20:08] <popey> you can watch it now
[20:08] <popey> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcone
[20:09] <diddledan> that was quick
[20:09] <popey> it shows you the current and previous programmes at the bottom of the streaming bit
[20:09] <popey> no, its not that
[20:09] <popey> you can "rewind" to previous programmes
[20:09] <diddledan> aah
[20:09]  * diddledan watches
[20:29] <foobarry> did the washing up
[20:29] <foobarry> now ready to watch :D
[20:29] <diddledan> :-o
[20:29] <diddledan> housework! >.<
[20:29] <foobarry> greasy roast chicken dishes and emptying the kitchen bin
[20:29] <foobarry> and load the dishawasher
[20:30] <foobarry> man points
[20:30] <foobarry> actually no points. just life :(
[22:45] <diddledan> wait? they're reboobing macguyver?
[22:46] <diddledan> daily fail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3260663/Popular-80s-series-MacGyver-gets-reboot-Furious-7-director-James-Wan-helm.html