[07:00] <Saviq> morning
[10:04] <Saviq> greyback, hey, can you update me where are we on multi-window apps?
[10:05]  * Saviq can't find a trello card for this
[11:04] <mzanetti> erm...
[11:04] <mzanetti> I have the apps scope unfavorited somehow
[11:04] <mzanetti> someone knows how to favorite that back?
[11:08] <guest42315> mzanetti, LOL
[11:08] <mzanetti> :D
[11:10] <guest42315> use the Falcon scope :)) from the open store
[11:17] <mzanetti> hah! good one guest42315
[11:18] <guest42315> :P
[11:22] <guest42315> mzanetti, i want to change some settings in the way the scrolling works, the way it is now doesn't really work for me, it's too much unpredictable and the inertia is too long, i want to tweak it a beet so it doesn't  make me sick :D do you know who manages the scrolling?
[11:49] <mzanetti> guest42315, unity8? touch or mouse?
[11:53] <guest42315> mzanetti, touch in unity8
[11:54] <mzanetti> hmm... config option available... it's Qt thing
[11:54] <mzanetti> although it might depend on the device too atm...
[11:54] <mzanetti> what hardware?
[11:54] <guest42315> mzanetti, mx4 ota6
[11:57] <guest42315> mzanetti,  in general i find the scrolling weird :D i think it's because the inertia is too long, it takes too long to stop the scrolling and the pace is strange, it's really unpredictable depending on how much you scroll
[11:57] <guest42315> mzanetti, + it's inconsistent, you get diff behaviours depending on the app
[11:59] <guest42315> mzanetti, try scrolling with telegram app on android and on ubuntu :P
[12:14] <Saviq> dandrader, oh, a qtmir branch? /me grabs
[12:14]  * Saviq needs glasses
[12:14] <dandrader> Saviq, i'ts mentioned in the checklist :)
[12:15] <Saviq> yeah ↑
[12:32] <Saviq> dandrader|afk, can you please rebase qtmir multimonitorNext on lp:~unity-team/qtmir/build_with_clang, there's two conflicts
[12:34] <dandrader> Saviq, it already has a prerequisite
[12:34] <dandrader> Saviq, so I should probably rebase the prerequisite no top of build_with_clang then I guess
[12:35] <Saviq> dandrader, hmm not sure that's where the conflict is actually
[12:36] <Saviq> Text conflict in src/modules/Unity/Application/mirsurfaceitem.cpp
[12:36] <Saviq> Text conflict in tests/modules/common/fake_mirsurface.h
[12:36] <Saviq> it's criss-cross, so might be a problem in fact
[12:37] <dandrader> Saviq,  if I rebae only multimonitorNext, build_with_clang changes will show in its diff
[12:37] <dandrader> Saviq, but I guess we can live with that
[12:37] <Saviq> dandrader, sure, I know
[12:37] <Saviq> just checking where the conflict is in fact
[12:38] <dandrader> Saviq, I can mention in the mp description
[12:38] <Saviq> dandrader, huh, weird, I can't reproduce the conflict locally
[12:41] <dandrader> So what should I do?
[12:41] <dandrader> Saviq, ^
[12:41] <Saviq> dandrader, nothing right now, let me try and understand what's going on :)
[13:02] <Saviq> dandrader, ok, so this is where bzr is stupid, I'll have to pull two MPs from the list to get yours merging
[13:09] <mhall119> Saviq: so that video I did of the Unity 8 cursor and window mode has exploded over the weekend, up to 15,000 views, people are crazy excited about it
[13:09] <Saviq> mhall119, silo 22 will soon have external screen support
[13:10] <mhall119> \o/
[13:10] <Saviq> mhall119, as in it's building right now
[13:10] <mhall119> that's what people are *really* wanting to see
[13:10] <Saviq> we had a small hiccup with that before http://i.imgur.com/wpRSOFD.jpg
[13:10] <Saviq> ... orly?
[13:12] <mhall119> oh,what device is that Saviq?
[13:12] <Saviq> mhall119, N7
[13:12] <mhall119> ah,nice, looked phone-sized
[13:13] <Saviq> mhall119, we had the screens swapped (external vs. internal), should be fixed in a few minutes when qtmir builds in silo 22 (we're prepping in case people are interested during QtWS we're on our way to)
[13:13] <mhall119> Saviq: I'll update as soon as you tell me it's ready
[13:15] <Saviq> mhall119, I'm on a coach now and will lose connectivity soon when we cross the border, you can monitor https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/445
[13:15] <mhall119> thanks
[13:15] <Saviq> I'll only be able to try later this evening
[14:01] <guest42315> Saviq, can i share you image? http://i.imgur.com/wpRSOFD.jpg
[14:01] <mterry> Saviq, when you have local chroots on your device, how do you get sbuild to find them?  (i.e. how do you point sbuild/schroot/etc to a local dir instead of /var/lib/schroots?)
[14:02] <guest42315> Saviq, do you have big hands or is the n7 that small?
[14:05] <mhall119> Saviq: (or anyone else on the team working on it) silo 22 wants to remove unity8 package again
[14:08] <greyback> mhall119: try doing an "apt-get update" on the device before running the citrain script
[14:09] <greyback> else install dmx-cursor-theme manually, before running citrain
[14:09] <mhall119> I had dmz-cursor-theme installed previously....
[14:09] <mhall119> oh, you know what, I did an image update, I bet that nuked the cursor theme
[14:09] <Saviq> guest42315, sure, share away
[14:09] <Saviq> mterry, I just used chroot usually
[14:10] <mhall119> greyback: why doesn't dmz-cursor-theme get pulled in as a package dependency?
[14:10] <Saviq> mhall119, it does, but citrain tool can't deal with deps not available in the silo
[14:10] <mhall119> Saviq: pull deps from the repo?
[14:10] <Saviq> mhall119, you have to do that manually still, yes
[14:11] <Saviq> mhall119, even worse (for actual silo testing) is that with overlay citrain tool will pull all updates from overlay PPA, not just silo
[14:11] <Saviq> related bug #1378245
[14:11] <ubot5`> bug 1378245 in phablet-tools (Ubuntu) "citrain could use a more accurate way to upgrade from silos" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1378245
[14:12] <Saviq> guest42315, those are mzanetti's hands, not sure if they're unusually big ;)
[14:12] <mhall119> Saviq: can dmz-cursor-theme be added to the silo PPA? that way it would at least not break
[14:12] <guest42315> Saviq, :)) thanks
[14:13] <mhall119> it would also (I assume) ensure that dmz-cursor-theme lands in the daily images when silo 22 does
[14:13] <Saviq> mhall119, yes, deps are resolved during image building, this is only the citrain tool's problem
[14:13] <mhall119> ok
[14:14] <Saviq> mhall119, just don't use citrain, use phablet-config --ppa to add the ppa, and use apt to upgrade
[14:14] <Saviq> mhall119, I'd rather not add packages to the silo, it's not a demo ppa or anything, we actually want to land it at some point
[14:15]  * Saviq hates android for "optimizing applications" on boot
[14:21] <mhall119> Saviq: installed silo 22, now I'm off ot test it
[14:21] <Saviq> have fun
[14:21] <Saviq> mhall119, I'll probably lose interwebs soon, talk with dandrader about any problems with mutlimon please
[14:32] <mhall119> dandrader: so it "worked" in that it switched to my TV as the display and gave be a "Your device is connected to an external screen" message on my phone
[14:32] <mhall119> but I couldn't log in (pin passowrd wasn't being accepted for some reason)
[14:32] <mhall119> and the mouse sometimes would get stuck before it reached the far left side of the screen
[14:39] <dandrader> mhall119, so far I've only used a laptop for testing it (it doesn't show this problem). will try it on my nexus 7 now.
[14:39] <Saviq> let's see how quickly I'll get through the 50MB bundle
[14:49] <greyback> dandrader|afk: please add reviewing mterry's work like https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/qtmir/no-touch-no-lifecycle/+merge/272791 to your list
[15:02] <mhall119> dandrader|afk: is there anything that would change the login password when it's connected to an external monitor and/or bluetooth mouse?
[15:19] <greyback> mhall119: I suspect a mir bug where every click on the OSK enters that key twice
[15:23] <mhall119> hmm, ok
[15:25] <mhall119> greyback: if that's the case, I can test it, since my pin is 0000
[15:25] <dandrader> mhall119, oh, you're using the osk
[15:26] <dandrader> mhall119, from my experience it seems osk doens't handle mouse clicks
[15:26] <dandrader> mhall119, try with a bluetooth keyboard
[15:26] <Saviq> or does something real weird indeed
[15:26] <Saviq> like backspace is a character
[15:27] <dandrader> mhall119, I mean, it doesn't seem to handle mouse clicks well
[15:38] <dandrader> mhall119, which device did you use? nexus 4?
[15:42] <mhall119> dandrader: nexus 4, I don't have a bluetooth keyboard, but yes the OSK was adding duplicate keys when I long-press for numbers
[15:42] <mhall119> I was able to get logged in and take some pictures, but the mouse getting stuck is a realy problem
[15:42] <mhall119> Saviq: backspace is just backspace, as far as I can tell
[15:43] <mhall119> but long-pressing 'p' for '0' resulted in '0p' being added to the password field
[16:12] <dandrader> Saviq, mzanetti, do you know the state of "dynamice grid unit" support (don't know how to call it)? ie, unity8 having a per-window grid unit setting?
[16:13] <Saviq> dandrader, there's very little, only some proof-of-concept work happened in London
[16:14] <dandrader> Saviq, could be as simple as having a context property overriding the environment variable value....
[16:14] <dandrader> Saviq, at least for immediate demo purposes...
[16:15] <Saviq> dandrader, fwded you a thread with a summary from Gerry
[16:16] <dandrader> oh man, that's a long story
[16:17] <Saviq> dandrader, just see today's emails
[16:18] <Saviq> biab
[16:36] <mhall119> bregma: ping
[18:49] <mhall119> Saviq: dandrader: would either of you be available at 1500 UTC tomorrow to join the Community Team Q&A to talk about all this convergence goodness you've been working on?
[18:50] <dandrader> mhall119, yes, I will be around
[18:51] <mhall119> awesome! One of us on the community team will get you a link