[13:59] <flocculant> thought I was going mad the other day when I clean installed - when did we start default install of lmsensors ? 
[13:59] <knome> explicitly i don't think ever :P
[14:00] <flocculant> that's what I thought - always remember having to do the whole sensors-detect and install 
[14:01] <flocculant> oh 
[14:01] <krytarik> flocculant: It's a recommend of Inxi.
[14:02] <flocculant> krytarik: yea - that's what the oh is :p
[14:02] <krytarik> :D
[14:03] <flocculant> though - what runs sensors-detect 
[14:19] <krytarik> flocculant: It doesn't look it is - no?
[14:24] <flocculant> well - why does sensors work with that running? 
[14:25] <flocculant> last time I have record of that running was pre- http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/20150831
[14:25] <flocculant> and sensors works here :)
[14:26] <flocculant> at least on this install to hardware - fails in vm (probably expected)
[14:28] <flocculant> intrigued enough to boot image on hardware now :)
[14:30] <krytarik> Sufficient defaults, it'd seem.
[14:31] <flocculant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12689751/
[14:31] <flocculant> guess so - live session
[14:35] <flocculant> if I run sensors-detect I lose the graphic sensor :p
[14:35] <krytarik> lol
[14:35] <flocculant> no I don't - I don't have nvidia sensors 
[14:35] <flocculant> only the nouveau one works it seems :D
[14:35] <flocculant> enough time on that ... 
[18:32] <ochosi> hm, so finally at least using xfce @work
[18:32] <ochosi> already imported lots of xubuntu stuff, but rebuilding xubuntu with rpms... hrm.
[18:35] <flocculant> loadsafun ...
[18:36] <knome> ochosi, so are you suggesting we should just forget all OSes and start working on an xfce modification kit instead of xubuntu? :P
[18:36] <ochosi> heh
[18:36] <Unit193> ochosi: Not even I've done that.
[18:37] <ochosi> well nah, but it's always nice to see that the grass was actually greener on the other side...
[18:37] <flocculant> ha ha 
[18:37] <ochosi> (given i never thought suse would be superior to xubuntu in any way)
[18:37] <knome> :P
[18:46] <ochosi> was also a nice experience to first be using xfce 4.10 and then upgrading to 4.12
[18:46] <ochosi> it really is *so* much better...
[18:46] <ochosi> so yeah, kudos to everyone here, we're doing a great job! :)
[18:52] <knome> :)
[18:52] <knome> you too
[19:21] <Unit193> andrzejr: Hi.  You list xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin's home as  http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin  but that doesn't exist.
[19:22] <andrzejr> Unit193, yes, I don't have access to that area. I though this would be resolved soon so I left the link in place.
[19:23] <Unit193> Oh hrm, I don't suppose anyone we can help poke about that?
[19:29] <andrzejr> Unit193, not sure who is doing that these days. Also, the project is not on transifex, which was the main reason for moving it from github to xfce.org.
[19:29] <ochosi> i guess i could help with the goodies page at least
[19:29] <Unit193> ochosi: Thank you.
[19:29] <ochosi> transifex was an admin thing i guess, not sure who has access to that apart from nick
[19:30] <ochosi> but i'll check
[19:31] <Unit193> m8t
[19:32] <ochosi> what did you want for the goodies page?
[19:32] <ochosi> andrzejr: is there a place i can link to or is there any text you wanna put up there?
[19:34] <ochosi> (and yeah, no access to transifex for me)
[19:41] <ochosi> ok, just for the sake of the page not being non-existent i put the readme up there
[19:41] <Unit193> Thanks, ochosi.
[19:41] <ochosi> no problem
[19:42] <flocculant> bluesabre: so when you talk about usability bugs - what about things like Printing - when you print to file ... it calls everything output.pdf, why can't it think about what document is called, when you've just changed the name ~20 times it's a pita :D
[19:50] <ochosi> i guess i'll try to review the thunar docs tonight...
[19:50] <knome> yay
[19:51] <andrzejr> ochosi, the default About dialog has a link to a homepage. So I thought a goodies page would be the best choice.
[19:51] <ochosi> sure, that's fine
[19:51] <andrzejr> as for the contents, that would be a description + some docs.
[19:51] <ochosi> just wasn't sure whether you had any idea what sort of text/description you wanted there
[19:53] <ochosi> sure
[19:53] <ochosi> not sure i'll have the time to write that up, but in case anybody else does, feel free to ping me anytime and i'll put it up there
[19:55] <andrzejr> hmm.. I though writing this up would be on me. But if you or someone else wanted to help that would be great.
[19:56] <ochosi> well ofc you can write this up yourself, but i'd try delegating it and writing code instead might be way cooler ;)
[19:56] <ochosi> jjfrv8: in case you're looking for a new assignment... ;)
[21:06] <ochosi> jjfrv8: any reason why you cut down the hidden settings page and the FAQs? those two i left untouched for now...
[21:21] <ochosi> jjfrv8: ok, i'm done with the exception of FAQ and hidden settings (as mentioned above). all other sections have been reviewed and upstreamed. thanks a bunch - that must've been a lot of work! it's much appreciated!
[21:22] <ochosi> jjfrv8: note: i dropped the sections you marked as deprecated in the plugins.
[21:34] <ochosi> nice, the documentation blueprint for wily is done
[21:34] <ochosi> go docs-team!
[21:34] <knome> yay
[21:35] <slickymaster> heh