[00:21] <pablenque> Hi folks, good night
[00:22] <pablenque> I must say that ive never used linux, and im looking for some hints about mi hardware and whats more convenient for it
[00:22] <Finetundar> evening pablenque
[00:23] <Finetundar> Ask and I will try to answer
[00:25] <pablenque> well, i have a Hp dv6 series, and need to erase the recovery partitions in order to make space for linux partition, and i dont have the experience reading that much about it
[00:25] <Finetundar> you're gonna have to open up gparted and erase the partitions
[00:25] <pablenque> so i thought that kubuntu may be a choice for it
[00:27] <Finetundar> pablenque: you can either run the installer and have it erase the HDD or manually erase it from gparted
[00:27] <pablenque> ok, you think that the drivers of the actual releases of ubuntu-kubuntu may cover the hardware of sucha a block laptop of mine?
[00:27] <Finetundar> How old is it?
[00:28] <Finetundar> pablenque: depending on the age of the computer you may want/need to use a lighter flavour
[00:29] <pablenque> i think that is around 5-7 years old
[00:30] <Finetundar> pablenque: do you know the specs?
[00:30] <pablenque> well Finetundar what i know of this machine is that has a amd dual core 2.3gh and 4GB
[00:30] <pablenque> of ram,
[00:31] <pablenque> sorry, is amd turion
[00:31] <pablenque> video comes from ati
[00:32] <pablenque> the ati mobilityu radeon 4200
[00:32] <Finetundar> Well, alright, you have the specs to run kubuntu pretty well. The issue you may encounter is attery life. What's been the average battey life?
[00:33] <pablenque> i know that atheros is for the wireless adapter
[00:33]  * Finetundar cringes
[00:33] <Finetundar> And there's where you're probably gonna have problems
[00:34] <pablenque> oh, the battery, it never lasted for too long, and now i gave up , using just the power cord
[00:34] <pablenque> the heat that comes out of this laptop ruined to many batteries
[00:35] <Finetundar> pablenque: If I were you I'd go ask in #ubuntu about the atheros drivers. For the rest, if you don't plan on using battery life then kubuntu will be a great choice
[00:36] <Finetundar> The installer will give you an option to completly erase the HDD and install kubuntu or you can install alongside windows
[00:36] <pablenque> great, i will ask there then, hope there was drivers for it, (sorry my english)
[00:37] <pablenque> im planing to erase all , then making a partition for windows, for installing some soft of my work
[00:37] <Finetundar> pablenque: I'd advise you to install windows first then
[00:38] <Finetundar> it doesn't tend to agree with the boot loader provided by *buntu operating systems
[00:38] <pablenque> because of so many crashes of the msoft SO
[00:38] <pablenque> i continuosly have to format my pc
[00:39] <pablenque> ah, so its better that way, ok i will learn hot to do it
[00:40] <Finetundar> Very easy really
[00:41] <pablenque> great then, ill give it a try,
[00:42] <pablenque> i like to lear that kind of things, but this computer is for use of other people in this house too,
[00:42] <pablenque> i guess i will risk my head a little bit for a change,
[00:43] <pablenque> thanks Finetundar, i will ask for that atheros driver issues as you told me
[00:44] <Finetundar> pablenque: kubuntu is really  easy to use !
[00:46] <pablenque> i have read that it is indeed, im just a little rusty
[00:48] <pablenque> good night Finetundar, and thanks again for the tips
[00:48] <Finetundar> pablenque: come back if you have any questions at all friend
[00:49] <pablenque> of course i will have to come back here a lot, im a noob now!!!
[01:27] <est31> I am wondering about the future of kubuntu or KDE + ubuntu. I've heard that there has been some trouble, and that 15.10 might be the last release?
[01:27] <est31> will 16.04 be released, is it a "stable" choice for the longer term?
[01:28] <Finetundar> dunno man, last I heard of that maddness was sowards march I think
[01:28] <Finetundar> *towards
[01:29] <est31> therefore I ask, whether there have been some updates
[01:29] <est31> really dont like having to move :)
[01:36] <finetundra__> dunno what to tell ya man
[01:52] <derekc> a
[01:53] <thulio> Hi there, how do I manage my IM accounts?
[02:16] <uofm49426> is there a classic kde desktop option without plasma running
[02:17] <uofm49426> plasma keep crashing on me
[02:33] <freeroute> hi
[02:34] <freeroute> I want to try out 15.10 once it comes out. Do you guys recommend me that or should I wait a couple of days before the kinks are ironed out?
[02:34] <freeroute> (in theory the FinalRelease should be stable, but you know, just to be sure)
[02:36] <abrahams> Whether you update on day 1 or wait for a few weeks after that you will still receive bugfix updates from time to time
[02:37] <abrahams> If you are excited to update no great reason to wait, really
[02:37] <genii> freeroute: Might want to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues and see if you can live with the current known problems
[02:39] <freeroute> abrahams: though historically, a period after launch is accompanied with a bigger amount of patches and regressions right?
[02:41] <abrahams>  freeroute: more bug reports sure, but the heaviest update/patching work is done before the release, not after it
[02:43] <freeroute> ah I see, so right now is a busy period I reckon :)
[02:43] <freeroute> genii: thanks I'll check this out. From what I'm seeing this affects all of Ubuntu flavors. To view Kubuntu-specific issues, I should keep an eye on this page, right? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WilyWerewolf/Alpha1/Kubuntu
[02:45] <freeroute> man I can not wait for Plasma 5 :D
[02:45] <genii> freeroute: There's probably another page also, but at least there, yes
[02:46] <freeroute> it's going to be my first "real" experience with KDE. I intend to use it as my main system.
[02:46] <freeroute> I saw some youtube videos and it looked fantastic.
[02:49] <genii> freeroute: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/  is probably a better jumping-off point. for instance right now the Beta2 link from there has a Release Notes specific to that one.
[02:49] <genii> freeroute: And when final freeze and release are finished, links and notes will also be available from there
[02:50] <josu_> Hello, I need some help with Konversation.  When I log into #kubuntu with my most-preferred nickname "josu", it comes up with "Nickname already in use. Trying josu_."
[02:50] <freeroute> thanks, I'll be checking those out :)
[02:51] <josu_> And there is no-one else named Josu in the list. So, why does the channel think there is?
[02:52] <est31> josu_, there is one called josu on the network
[02:52] <est31> that is already enough
[02:52] <est31> they just aren't on the #kubuntu channel
[02:53] <josu_> est31: Hmm... I can't see it. Maybe a bug with Konversation?
[02:53] <est31> josu_, no, its a general property of the irc network
[02:54] <abrahams> josu_: you would see it if you tried to type /msg josu, you could start a conversation with the original josu
[02:54] <genii> josu_:  /msg NickServ INFO josu      will tell you about the name. Likely it's registered to another user which is active
[02:54] <est31> best you find another nick, and then register it with nickserv
[02:55] <josu_> Kind of confusing... This is my first experience with IRC. Do I need to create an account or something?
[02:56] <abrahams> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[02:57] <genii> josu_: If you want to use the same name on Freenode every time you visit, you should pick a name which no one else is using and is not yet registered, then register it
[02:57] <genii> !register
[02:57] <josu_> Ok, thanks. I'll go check it out.
[03:02] <derekc> Im on Kubuntu 15.04 and the bluedevil systray icon just says no adapters found.  Am I missing something?
[03:07] <josu_> est31: Oh geez, now I finally understand - I didn't know there could possibly be another josu.
[03:10] <josu_> I'll use my name and last initial: JosuG
[03:39] <freeroute> does KDE have a similar feature as Unity's HUD for context menus? https://youtu.be/w_WW-DHqR3c?t=43
[05:03] <RickFreed> Hi everyone
[05:04] <RickFreed> New to KDE; tried out Mint with KDE the other day. Reg computer uses Mint with cinnamon, and I've got MATE running on Arch on an old chromebook.
[05:05] <RickFreed> I just finished building a new desktop for my living room, and wondered if KDE was the best way to go for a living room entertainment center; music, movies, YouTube, etc.
[05:06] <RickFreed> Any thoughts?
[05:15] <krise> SM Player wont play mp4 video files. what drivers should i update
[06:55] <Guest37766> hi
[07:26] <BKS> I am facing intel fifo error while login in kunbuntu 15.04
[09:12] <freeroute> oh this is interesting... so if I understand correctly, I can choose between the pre-installed applications and the DE itself? https://youtu.be/97p1eKZRzng?t=103
[09:13] <freeroute> how exactly would I do this, just download Ubuntu minimal and at the software selection stage choose only the KDE without applications?
[09:42] <freeroute> clipboard tool woohoo!
[10:49] <kamil_> hey guys, i have a problem
[10:49] <kamil_> and it is urgent
[10:50] <kamil_> i tried to resize my partition and move it toleft (i had about 200gb of free space at the left), but i got error, and now i have 200gb of free space and RAW partition
[10:50] <kamil_> what can i do?
[11:29] <philipp_> I want KWallet to prompt me to unlock right after login. How can I do this?
[11:39] <alvin> kamil_: sounds bad. Did you actually move the data yet?
[11:39] <alvin> philipp_: I guess you can set kwallet to autostart
[11:40] <alvin> philipp_: Keep in mind that autostart is pretty bugged in 15.04. It works, but you can't change settings afterwards, unless you change the .desktop files themselves.
[11:40] <kamil_> alvin: unfortunately no, i hve done resizing a lot of time, never had problems
[11:40] <alvin> This is fixed in 15.10 beta2
[11:40] <philipp_> thx alvin
[11:41] <kamil_> now i am checking disk with destdisk, it looks like partition is stil visible, but has corrupted fs
[11:41] <alvin> kamil_: In that case you lost the data. If this was before the resize, changing the partition table to what you had would have made it accesible again. But now?
[11:41] <alvin> philipp_: kwallet will open automatically when you use the same password as login (if I'm not mistaken here)
[11:42] <kamil_> alvin: but partition is not resized, sizes are same, just it looks like it is not formatted
[11:42] <alvin> Yes, but you moved it physically
[11:42] <kamil_> fck, and maybe some programs to restore data (such as recuva?)
[11:43] <alvin> I'm sure those might work, but I would use the backup at this point
[11:43] <alvin> Depends on the filesystem too. You need 2 things now. Detecting where the filesystem starts en ends, and then the recovery.
[11:44] <alvin> Maybe the first is enough, but I wouldn't bet on it.
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:26] <alvin> Hi
[12:27] <alvin> Still trying 15.10 here. Now I discovered bookmarks are broken in konsole
[12:28] <alvin> 15.10: Konsole -> Bookmarks -> Edit Bookmarks does nothing. Can anyone confirm
[12:30] <alvin> Same problem in krdc
[12:49] <CapsAdmin> what could cause me being shown that fullscreen terminal after turning off my screen and leaving it off for a while then turning it on?
[12:50] <CapsAdmin> ctrl alt f7 just shows a flashing underscore
[12:50] <CapsAdmin> but sudo init 5 boots me back in again
[12:57] <alvin> Hey, that still works? I thought init levels were a thing of the past?
[12:58] <alvin> CapsAdmin: I suppose KDE or SDDM crashed here on sleep
[12:59] <BluesKaj> CapsAdmin:  looks to me like you're dropping to a VT/TTY and your power settings are shutting X off
[13:11] <CapsAdmin> i didn't get this issu ebefore i got a new monitor
[13:12] <CapsAdmin> i remember when i first plugged it in it wasn't being recognized so i had to reboot
[13:13] <weshgros> wesh
[13:14] <jbermudes> Can anyone running Kubuntu 15.04 confirm that in libreoffice writer if you right click on a word, the context menu shows no highlights for any menu item hovered over?
[13:16] <alvin> jbermudes: confirmed, but it flickers a little
[13:17] <jbermudes> hmm, I don't even get a flicker, but I assume both our situations are related to the same root cause
[13:17] <alvin> jbermudes: Seems to work on 15.10, but not on 15.04
[13:17]  * alvin just tried on 15.10
[13:17] <jbermudes> Maybe it's something about QT vs GTK or something?
[13:18] <jbermudes> I'm new to Kubuntu, so I'm still getting used to these kinds of things
[13:18] <alvin> I have no idea, but since it's fixed, there's probably already a bug report about it
[13:18] <alvin> Must be a fix in Qt/KDE/something else, but not in LibreOffice, because I'm already running the latest LibreOffice on 15.04
[15:12] <justazombie> hello
[15:13] <lordievader> o/
[15:13] <jackdinn> hi, im stuck and need some help , sys info (kubuntu 15.04, i7uPro, 16 G ram nvidia gtx770) my windows decorator keeps make a mess of my titles bars , blurry text , parts of the title bar missing & sometime the whole bar missing all together. Hoever when i try to change the setting it just crashes when i click on windows decorations http://i.imgur.com/74jmKgA.png
[15:14] <lordievader> jackdinn: Are you using the backports?
[15:15] <jackdinn> i cant change my windows decor at all as the setting windows closes after crashing,  i have asked here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/plasma-5-cant-change-window-decorations-4175555313/ but noone has helped can anyone please help :)
[15:15] <jackdinn> backports ? no not on this installation
[15:15] <lordievader> jackdinn: I'd upgrade to backports if I were you to see if that fixes the problems you are having.
[15:16] <lordievader> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[15:16] <jackdinn> btw this insstallation of kubuntu is brand new , only 2 days old now
[15:16] <jackdinn> k thx lordievader, i shall try that
[15:27] <jackdinn> so what exactly is the backports ? i might as well ask since its taking ages to upgrade all the files/packages
[15:29] <jackdinn> i thought it was just all the updates that came after the distro your on, so for kubuntu 15.04 it would be all the 15.10 file/package updates ?
[15:30] <jackdinn> or am i completely wrong :-/
[15:30] <genii> jackdinn: Backports are packages which first appeared in a later release and have since been also made to work with an earlier release
[15:30] <jackdinn> hmm so kinda what i was thinking then
[15:31] <jackdinn> just that they have been tested to be backwards compatible
[15:33]  * denza242 slides jackdinn ppa:kubuntu-ci/stable
[15:33]  * denza242 slithers away
[15:33] <jackdinn> ?
[15:36] <jackdinn> okey doky, backport upgraded , restart needed, fingers crossed (although i shant hold my bnreath as iv been trying to move from windows to linux for 6 months now with what must be nearly 50 60 majore problems , anyhow lets see what happens here, thx lordievader
[15:42] <jackdinn> well that did not work, still get same crash/error when i try to open the windows decor setting ?? grr why is this like swimming through treacle :(
[15:44] <lordievader> jackdinn: What driver are you using?
[15:44] <jackdinn> nvidia gtx 770 driver 346.96
[15:45] <jackdinn> was the recommended one
[15:46]  * lordievader wonders if nouveau works better
[15:46] <jackdinn> plus loads of my other problems were to do with my video/screens , but after disabling the on-board vid card it has fixed a lot of problems , just a pity that the problem just keep comming :(
[15:46] <jackdinn> nouveau looks terrible on my system
[15:46] <lordievader> Ah, it is one of those hybrid systems?
[15:47] <lordievader> I hear of nothing but trouble with those things.
[15:50] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  if it's an Optimus hybrid graphics with intel onboard and nvidia separate gpus then the nvidia driver should be the nvidia-prime
[15:51] <jackdinn> im dont know what all that means but im just looking to try and show you what exactly my main rig is
[15:51] <denza242> say, how would I install VLC 2.2.1 in Vivid?
[15:52] <denza242> (with a PPA that is)
[15:52] <jackdinn> http://www.ebuyer.com/719690-zoostorm-gaming-media-desktop-pc-7260-5106
[15:52] <jackdinn> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5094#ov
[15:53] <jackdinn> thats the comp (although mine is a little more high spec (but discontinued) the second link is my mobo
[15:54] <jackdinn> BluesKaj:  how do i try these drivers ? "nvidia driver should be the nvidia-prime"
[15:56] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  just sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime
[15:57] <jackdinn> no ppa needed?
[15:57] <jackdinn> sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime
[15:58] <jackdinn> opps meant nvidia-prime is already the newest version.
[15:59] <jackdinn> there must be a way to reset my decorations back to default , where are the setting held ??
[16:01] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  don't think that's a hybrid graphics system, and that nvidia gpu should be the default
[16:01] <denza242> jackdinn: you could try deleting your config to forcefully reset the config
[16:01] <jackdinn> where is it
[16:01] <jackdinn> ~/.config ?
[16:02] <jackdinn> or you talking about the nvidia confogs
[16:02] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  you should have a nvidia-xconfig file
[16:02] <jackdinn> yep
[16:03] <BluesKaj> also nvidia-prime doesn't apply in your case, the onboard gpu should be bypassed by default in the BIOS/UEFI
[16:03] <jackdinn>  etc/X11/xorg.conf  you mean that config file ?
[16:04] <jackdinn> yea i disabled the on board in bios
[16:04] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:04] <denza242> BluesKaj: what if it's a problem with the compositor?
[16:04] <denza242> I know the rendering backend/ OGL interface have given me problems before
[16:05] <jackdinn> denza242: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/plasma-5-cant-change-window-decorations-4175555313/
[16:06] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  which OpenGL do you have selected for backend rendering?
[16:06] <denza242> jackdinn: under "Compo-
[16:06] <denza242> BluesKaj beat me to it
[16:06] <jackdinn> it was fine on 14.10 but virtualBox just would not work , everyone gave up in the end so i installed kubuntu 15.04.... now more problems :(
[16:07] <jackdinn> emm.. just a min
[16:09] <jackdinn> denza242: sorry i must be in the wrong place http://imgur.com/zqhKdUj
[16:09] <denza242> jackdinn: System Settings > Display and Monitor > Compositor
[16:10] <jackdinn> rendering backend OpenGL 2.0
[16:11] <denza242> jackdinn: and OpenGL interface?
[16:11] <jackdinn> GLX
[16:11] <denza242> jackdinn: switch GLX to EGL and OpenGL 2.0 to OpenGL 3.1
[16:11] <jackdinn> k
[16:12] <jackdinn> hmm compositor has been disabled
[16:12] <denza242> weird
[16:13] <jackdinn> http://imgur.com/jSOIPrN
[16:13] <denza242> jackdinn: oh that's just a warning
[16:13] <jackdinn> im sooooo desperate to get away from windows :(
[16:13] <denza242> jackdinn: I think the compositor is still enabled
[16:14] <jackdinn> well yea but iv applied it and it has disabled the compositor
[16:14] <denza242> jackdinn: it's just a warning
[16:14] <denza242> with the nvidia blob driver, it should support OGL 3.1/EGL
[16:16] <jackdinn> well ok iv set them settings, i have no windows effects anymore but windows decor still crashes
[16:16] <denza242> hmm...
[16:16] <jackdinn> hmm iondeed, what a teamvier look ?
[16:17] <jackdinn> want a TV look that should have said
[16:17] <denza242> jackdinn: opengl 2.0 and EGL then?
[16:17] <jackdinn> k  a sec
[16:18] <jackdinn> nop, no dif
[16:19] <denza242> jackdinn: try just xrender
[16:19] <jackdinn> whats that :)
[16:20] <denza242> jackdinn: another rendering backend
[16:21] <jackdinn> o right, yea sorry no change
[16:21] <denza242> jackdinn: none of them work?
[16:22] <denza242> that's odd
[16:22] <denza242> jackdinn: is it just that you're getting the yellow warning dialogue?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  probly need to relogin to reload X
[16:22] <denza242> jackdinn: that too 6
[16:22] <denza242> *^
[16:22] <jackdinn> so which should i set them to before rebooting?
[16:23] <denza242> jackdinn: try opengl 3.1 and EGL
[16:31] <jackdinn> meh, still no joy, iv changed it back to GL2.0 and GLX & iv got the windows effects back but still crashes :-/
[16:32] <jackdinn> but it was set as you suggested after a reboot and still crashed
[16:35] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  check the driver manager again, seems to me the recommended driver isn't right for that gpu, maybe a newer one is in order
[16:36] <jackdinn> http://i.imgur.com/pByb9mo.png
[16:37] <jackdinn> do i need a PPA for a later nvidia driver , or direct DL from nvidia?
[16:39] <jackdinn> well nvidia says i need
[16:39] <jackdinn> Version: 	352.41
[16:39] <jackdinn> Release Date: 	2015.8.28
[16:40] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  is that driver available in the driver manager
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:40] <jackdinn> nop, not atm unless i add the edges ppa (i think its called)
[16:41] <jackdinn> shall i go for it ?
[16:41] <jackdinn> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[16:42] <BluesKaj> yeah, don't bother with xedgers because when kernel modules are upgraded their driver won't be upgraded and hence breakage
[16:42] <jackdinn> so what just DL it from nvidia ?
[16:42] <BluesKaj> no
[16:42] <jackdinn> so just DL it from nvidia ?
[16:42] <jackdinn> sorry , double post , my bad
[16:43] <jackdinn> well what then , how can i get 352.41 without the ppa or DL'ing it ?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> you could use the xedgers, but don't upgrade any kernels until the same driver is available in the regular repos
[16:44] <jackdinn> i dont know what that means , lol
[16:45] <BluesKaj> xedgers offers a driver that isn't avilable in the regular repositories or the driver manager ''
[16:46] <jackdinn> so what am i doing ? i DL'ed the driver from nvidia http://www.nvidia.co.uk/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/352.41/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.41.run&lang=uk&type=GeForce
[16:47] <jackdinn> but its a NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.41.run file
[16:47] <BluesKaj> for kubuntu that is, and xedgers does test their drivers to make sure they work , buit they just don't upgrade them as often as the Kubuntu repositories does, simple as that
[16:47] <jackdinn> how do i use this *.run file that iv just got from nvidia?
[16:48] <BluesKaj> jackdinn: don't use that driver, you're better off using the xedgers driver
[16:48] <jackdinn> im so lost outside windows, thats terrible init , lol
[16:49] <jackdinn> k ill add edgers
[16:52] <jackdinn> well i duno what else is in that PPA but its now updating a load of stuff
[16:55] <jackdinn> BluesKaj: iv noticed you keep saying xedgers , whereas the ppa i found was sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa  ?
[16:55] <siervo> hello all
[16:55] <jackdinn> hi
[16:56] <siervo> I just installed Kubuntu and I want to install Konqueror on it, didn't see it on the app store. Is there a default root pw?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  yeah it's short for xorg-edgers
[16:57] <jackdinn> o right, well its all updated but i dont see any new driver versions for the card
[16:57] <jackdinn> 346.93, same as before
[16:58] <jackdinn> but im sure i have seen 352 in the driver man before on one of my other distros
[16:59] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  well it's your choice then
[17:00] <jackdinn> BluesKaj: ooo hold up the decor setting GUI has now stopped crashing , i have no clue exactly what / why but it is working atm
[17:00] <jackdinn> maybe the backport , even though i tried it after that
[17:02] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  keeping the packages up to date helps get rid of problems
[17:02] <jackdinn> BluesKaj: o this is comical , i got 1 change of windows decor but now its gone back to crashing again, jeess
[17:03] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  do you have all the repositories in muon discover enabled?
[17:04] <jackdinn> friging hell, i have been at this for soo long :(, i suspect it will be yet another distro (about my 9th)
[17:04] <jackdinn> err, a sec ill show you
[17:04] <jackdinn> BluesKaj:  they are all ticked
[17:05] <jackdinn> o sorry what these ? BluesKaj
[17:05] <jackdinn> http://imgur.com/kC62xLN
[17:06] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  changing distros isn't going to make erros and problems go away, stick with one until it works for you and don't try to change too many settings at one time.
[17:07] <jackdinn> k thats good logic, but i have had such a hard time
[17:08] <jackdinn> BluesKaj:  so should all them other software sources be ticked ?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> check every box in the sources list except the cdrom one then update and upgrade
[17:12] <jackdinn> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[17:12] <jackdinn>  kwin : Depends: kwin-x11 but it is not installed
[17:12] <BluesKaj> install kwinx-11
[17:14] <jackdinn> BluesKaj: k just do a restart , cheers
[17:15] <BluesKaj> if that doesn't work open a terminal and run sudo dpkg --configure -a, then sudo apt-get -f install
[17:15] <lordievader> Perhaps first check why it doesn't want to install kwin-x11.
[17:16] <BluesKaj> he left
[17:16] <siervo> is there a default root password or repository I need to setup to download Konqueror or rekonq on Kubuntu? Just installed
[17:16] <BluesKaj> siervo:  are you on a phone?
[17:17] <lordievader> BluesKaj: It was addressed to you to ;)
[17:17] <BluesKaj> lordievader:  dependencies
[17:18] <lordievader> Sure, but why are they unmet. That is the real question.
[17:19] <BluesKaj> we always wonder why they're unmet :-) ...but it seems installing kwn-x11 install worked
[17:20] <BluesKaj> he didn't have all his repos enabled either
[17:21] <jackdinn> BluesKaj: well still the same, many thx for the help. im going to give my head a rest for a while, cheers for ya time :D
[17:22] <BluesKaj> sidid you try the commands I posted? open a terminal and run sudo dpkg --configure -a, then sudo apt-get -f install
[17:23] <BluesKaj> jackdinn: ^
[17:23] <lordievader> jackdinn: Is kwin-x11 installed?
[17:23] <jackdinn> k np i shall give it a go
[17:23] <jackdinn> yea i did install it
[17:24] <jackdinn> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[17:30] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  also make sure you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[17:31] <jackdinn> k, no harm
[17:34] <jackdinn> BluesKaj: done lots of stuff being installed/updated but still same unfortunately
[17:39] <BluesKaj> jackdinn:  those aren't meant to fix your problem, but they do indtsll flash and java plugins etc that help with bowsing websites and playing media files that require plugins for codecs etc
[17:40] <whlai_> jello all
[17:40] <whlai_> how do you reverse a zone with a  /16 subnet?
[17:41] <whlai_> server is 10.1.1.97, sub is 255.255.0.0
[17:41] <whlai_> need a reverse zone for BIND9 config in named.conf.local
[17:44] <BluesKaj> whlai_:  looks like a question for ##networking
[17:44] <lordievader> Or for #ubuntu-server
[17:45] <lordievader> jackdinn: Could you give a summary of the problem? (Im to lazy to read the backlog)
[17:46] <jackdinn> lordievader: thx for the offer but im just about to eat so will be away for a while, appreciated though
[17:46] <jackdinn> maybe you can help on this forum http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/plasma-5-cant-change-window-decorations-4175555313/
[17:47] <jackdinn> as no one else seems to be able to ^^
[17:47] <jackdinn> back later , many thx all :)
[17:53] <kwaadpepper> Hi is anyone getting crashes on vanilla 15.04 ? I have bumblebee + nvidia-355 stuff and GTX 870M
[17:53] <kwaadpepper> I had to install backports
[17:54] <kwaadpepper> to update plasma
[17:59] <BluesKaj> kwaadpepper:  nvidia-prime ?
[18:12] <krise> sm player wont play mp4 files, how can i fix it
[18:54] <kwaadpepper> Yes nvidia-prime
[18:55] <kwaadpepper> v 0.8.1
[19:58] <genii> !info juffed trusty-backports
[19:58] <genii> !info juffed trusty
[19:58] <genii> Hm, 3 and not 4, so still buggy
[20:14] <aphixe> hello guys, just curious i didn't make a swap file because i have 8gb, but then i read a conflict about laptops needing swap partition for sleep. also thought i saw you can just make a swap file.?
[20:17] <JosuG> aphixe: You need a swap partition if you are going to enable hibernation. If you are not going to enable hibernation, you can use a swap file.
[20:18] <bprompt> ditto
[20:19] <aphixe> JosuG:  so.. can i shrink root / partition to fit swap partition. also what is a swap file for. sleep with battery holding memory in a file?
[20:19] <JosuG> aphixe: Keep in mind though that hibernation may not work correctly on all computers.  "Suspend to RAM" or "Sleep" is different than "Suspend to disk" or "Hibernate" and does not use swap at all.
[20:20] <JosuG> aphixe: So you do not need swap for sleep.
[20:20] <aphixe> JosuG: well i know one saves to disk and other saves to ram while using small bit of battery
[20:20] <JosuG> aphixe: Correct. Hibernate saves to disk, and sleep saves to ram.
[20:21] <bprompt> aphixe:    the swap partition is needed for hibernation, to store the session state for reloading at boot, hibernation is not sleep, sleep is simply an energy saving state while activity is low or none
[20:21] <aphixe> JosuG: i guess its trial and error to know if hibernate is supported on my laptop. and if so i need to some how shrink my partition for swap
[20:23] <aphixe> bprompt: ok so can say gparted shrink partition and then i add what size of swap. i don't want to use up too much. also gparted i assume has to be ran on a live usb because system disk is in use
[20:24] <bprompt> aphixe:    well... if  you were referring all along about sleep mode, you don't need it, if you meant hibernation, then you do, as JosuG  correctly pointed out, but if you meant sleep mode, with 8gbs ram, depending on usage, you may not need the swap partition/file
[20:25] <JosuG> aphixe: To enable a swap partition: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33697/how-do-i-add-a-swap-partition-after-system-installation
[20:26] <aphixe> bprompt: isn't the benefit of hibernation to quickly boot up and to turn off hardware to save battery
[20:26] <bprompt> aphixe:   but, yes, I'd do it from a liveusb session
[20:26] <JosuG> And then, to test hibernation type the command "sudo pm-hibernate"
[20:27] <bprompt> aphixe:    ahemm, nope, the idea behind hibernation, is that the "shutdown state" is kept, and you can resume whatever you were doing and pick up where you left off after booting up, all apps and files that were open, will just pick up where they left off, that's the saving of hibernation
[20:29] <bprompt> aphixe:   if you just need the system, when the activity is low or none, to save energy by turning off hardware and processes no needed, then that'd be sleep mode, and for that, you don't need a swap partition/file
[20:29] <DeaDSouL> hi, is there any way possible to make the inporting tool in digikam uses all cores ?
[20:31] <bprompt> DeaDSouL:    dunno myself, I don't use digikam, I use gwenview
[20:32] <bprompt> DeaDSouL:    importing couldn't take that long anyhow, unless you're digitizing the congress library =)
[20:32] <DeaDSouL> bprompt: i need to use digikam to add tags, and faces contacts...
[20:33] <DeaDSouL> bprompt: well, try to import 51,000 images... and then tell me how long did you wait ;)
[20:33] <bprompt> 51,000 images? holy molly, why not just make them an mp4 :P
[20:36] <DeaDSouL> bprompt: lol,,... so many duplicated images... ;P i need digikam to make it easier find them and delete the duplicates :D
[20:36] <DeaDSouL> to find *
[20:38] <bprompt> hmm.... hmm.... haven't needed to use it myself
[20:43] <JosuG> I looked at the docs at https://docs.kde.org/trunk4/en/extragear-graphics/digikam/digikam.pdf.  I couldnt find anything about cores or performance.
[20:44] <JosuG> I used the Find in Page feature to look for "cores" and all I could find was the word "underscores" lol :P
[20:45]  * bprompt underscores that
[20:45] <JosuG> By the way, did anyone notice a whole bunch of people log out all at once?
[20:47] <bprompt> I have log in/out off =), thus nope
[20:48] <bprompt> but if so, that explains a few things, traffic is a bit low, the many "log out at once", simply means a netsplit, thus
[20:49] <JosuG> Hmm... I just started using IRC a few days ago and I guess I just don't know lots of stuff about how it works.
[20:53] <bprompt> JosuG:    netsplit means, one network, many servers logged into it, say, you may be on a swedish server, logged to freenode.net, and some say other 20 folks may be on a australian server, logged to freenode.net network, both in the same network, BUT, if the australian server gets a downtime for some reason, you'll notice 20 folks "logging out" per se
[20:54] <JosuG> bprompt: Ok that makes sense. Thanks.
[20:54] <bprompt> anyhow, but netsplits are often more than just one server, sometimes could be say 5 or 3 servers getting some downtime for some reason, updating or testing or other server issue, and when that happens, you'll notice about 100 or 1000 folks/nicks logging out per se, due to the netsplit
[20:55] <bprompt> and when the servers come and log back in the network, you'd see about 100 or 1000 nicks logging in at once also =)
[20:55] <JosuG> Yep, I noticed that, too.
[20:56] <JosuG> And now I turned off the login/logout messages. What a waste of space in the chat window.
[20:57] <bprompt> well, they could be useful, I mean, you wouldn't know about the netsplit unless you saw that flag :)
[20:57] <bprompt> I usually have them ON btw, just now and then I have them off
[20:58] <JosuG> I'll keep that in mind.
[20:59] <bprompt> also you can tell who just came in, or left, and that's also useful, we have sometime dry-by's, folks may ask something, and leave a few seconds later, you may reply and he/she's gone
[21:07] <bprompt> JosuG:    http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode   <---- btw, if you want to check out other channels, or other networks
[21:45] <mparillo_> Sometimes I answer the drive-bys anyway in case somebody is checking the logs (http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/)