[01:30] <ppda_> Hi. I need help to compile a package for ubuntu phone.
[01:32] <ppda_> anybody there ?
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-unity-8-convergence-nexus-4-phone-converging-into-a-desktop-gallery-493729.shtml
[07:01] <TonyBoston> renatu, if you've committed that fix with the update, still having that error
[07:01] <TonyBoston> just so you know
[07:18] <jgdx> TonyBoston, he's on in ~6h, fyi
[07:19] <TonyBoston> jgdx, okay
[07:26] <dholbach> good morning
[07:32] <jgdx> TonyBoston, might get pulled from ota7. What was the bug tracking the issues you found?
[07:34] <TonyBoston> jgdx, it was a special issues which he was working on yesterday, didnt file a bug for that
[07:34] <TonyBoston> issue*
[07:34] <TonyBoston> jgdx, whats the eta for ota7?
[07:35] <jgdx> TonyBoston, 10th
[07:35] <TonyBoston> kk
[07:35] <jgdx> TonyBoston, what was the nature of the issue?
[07:36] <jgdx> data loss?
[07:36] <TonyBoston> jgdx, http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/account_issue_with_owncloud2.png
[07:36] <TonyBoston> I am using syncevolution with owncloud
[07:37] <jgdx> TonyBoston, okay, thanks
[07:38] <TonyBoston> jgdx, btw do you know how I could dual boot android and ubuntu? it really is sometimes unusable for me
[07:38] <TonyBoston> its the bq aquaris 5
[07:39] <jgdx> TonyBoston, sorry no, but others might. It's still a bit too early for this channel
[07:39] <TonyBoston> kk
[07:57] <TyrfingMjolnir> Can ubuntu-touch be installed on Galaxy tab?
[07:58] <jgdx> !devices | TyrfingMjolnir
[07:58] <ubot5`> TyrfingMjolnir: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[08:05] <TyrfingMjolnir> And?
[08:05] <TonyBoston> can you read?
[09:01] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Mad Hatter Day! 😃
[09:36] <abeato> Laney, I have proposed https://code.launchpad.net/~alfonsosanchezbeato/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-bad1.0/+git/gst-plugins-bad1.0/+merge/273509  (same change I did for vivid overlay ppa)
[09:41] <Laney> abeato: thx
[09:41] <abeato> np
[09:59] <mpt> Has anyone else noticed that the app screenshots, which the phone takes for a background-killed app, are blurry?
[10:03] <jgdx> mpt, yes
[10:08] <davmor2> mpt: they are meant to be so you know the app isn't currently active aiui
[10:08] <mpt> davmor2, if that was the case I’d expect it to have a blur or a tint. But it looks like it’s just been cropped then resized, or something like that.
[10:09] <davmor2> mpt: when they were clear people were trying to interact with the app and nothing was happening
[10:09] <davmor2> mpt: no idea how the blur is applied just that it is
[10:09] <mpt> hmm
[10:10] <mpt> Where should I report a bug then? :-) unity8?
[10:10] <davmor2> mpt: yeah I think it is unity8 that handles it
[10:11] <davmor2> mpt: it has been like that for quite a while though, I'm surprised you are only just noticing :)
[10:12] <popey> mpt: bug exists, I filed it ages ago
[10:12] <popey> mpt: bug 1378267
[10:12] <ubot5`> bug 1378267 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Suspended app screenshots are blurry" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1378267
[10:13] <popey> haha, almost exactly 1 year ago
[10:13] <davmor2> mpt: ^ see said it had been like it for ages
[10:14] <mpt> thanks popey
[10:14] <popey> np
[10:18] <davmor2> mpt: also I think it was a design choice to blur it when it not actually active so it might be that design needs to look at it again maybe and give new feed back I like the idea of a tint though :) not sure how practical that is in reality though
[10:18] <mpt> It’s in the Uncanny Valley between being (a) obviously not the actual app, and (b) apparently the actual app
[10:19] <davmor2> mpt: indeed
[12:17] <mcphail> When is OTA7 due? Really need the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1480877
[12:17] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1480877 in Canonical System Image "Access points' "PropertiesChanged" dbus signals freeze UI on mobile devices" [High,In progress]
[12:20] <popey> mcphail: 19 oct I believe
[12:20] <mcphail> popey: cool. Can't wait
[12:21] <popey> understandable!
[12:21] <mcphail> popey: have you been cursed by this bug as well?
[12:21] <popey> totally
[12:21] <popey> ironically it's worse in the Canonical office
[12:22] <mcphail> ha!
[12:22] <popey> that's the point when everyone really noticed it, when 20 people were sat around wondering why their phones were performing so badly
[12:22] <mcphail> My phone is almost unusable at work, as well, unless I disable wifi
[12:22] <mcphail> Fine at home
[12:23] <popey> hm, 111 hours since last charge of my e4.5, 66% battery
[12:24] <mcphail> You don't get that on android
[12:30] <svij> PSA: The results of the Ubucontest will be announced at the #ubuntu-on-air today at 15 UTC.
[12:30] <popey> \o/
[12:32] <pmcgowan> mcphail, we are having a hard time nailing that one, there is a patch but we are not convinced its resolved
[12:35] <mcphail> pmcgowan: If there is anything I can do to help, let me know
[12:36] <pmcgowan> mcphail, there could be once awe is online we can ask
[12:36] <pmcgowan> he was wondering around cambridge yesterday trying to repro
[12:36] <mcphail> pmcgowan: My biggest problem when debugging is it only happens at work, when I do not have access to a machine with adb etc
[12:36] <pmcgowan> right
[15:01] <SturmFlut> You *really* want to see Ubuntu on Air today :)
[15:17] <binar> I have ubuntu touch installed on a nexus 4 with a touchscreen, which isn't working in the bottom area (only displays, no touch events possible). As display rotation does not work on the welcome screen, I can only choose the language, but not confirm the selection. Where is the selection stored? Can I somehow manually set the langugage in recovery mode? Or is it possible to enable adb to work in the nor
[15:17] <binar> mal boot mode?
[15:25] <m0n5t3r_> I'm pretty sure now that my aquaris really hates having its gpu hot, that's why it is rebooting: using the hotspot or having dbus eat 100% CPU (no idea why) -> no issue; any extended use of the screen / GPU (scrolling in the twitter app or the browser, here maps or osmscout, pathwind) results in a string of reboots until presumably the thing manages to cool down
[17:07] <mhall119> oSoMoN: are there plans to change the webbrowser-app's UA strings when it's running in desktop mode?
[17:07] <mhall119> several sites still load the mobile version for me
[17:08] <oSoMoN> mhall119, the default UA string is already different on desktop
[17:08] <oSoMoN> mhall119, what sites specifically?
[17:09] <mhall119> oSoMoN: drive.google.com
[17:09] <mhall119> just now
[17:09] <oSoMoN> let me check
[17:11] <oSoMoN> mhall119, I can confirm that drive.google.com redirects me to https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/my-drive?rfd=1 on desktop
[17:12] <oSoMoN> mhall119, that’s yet another job for the UA string override mechanism, can you please file a bug for that specific site?
[17:16] <mhall119> oSoMoN: sure, against lp:webbrowser-app?
[17:17] <mhall119> asdf
[17:17] <mhall119> bah, ignore that
[17:18] <oSoMoN> mhall119, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+filebug
[18:11] <dhbiker> on Brightness settings there is no top bat
[18:11] <dhbiker> you can't go back ...
[18:12] <dhbiker> arale latest rc
[18:13] <dhbiker> same on ringtone settings
[18:13] <dhbiker> strange
[18:33] <bretth> dhbiker:  What device are you on?
[18:33] <dhbiker> arale
[18:37] <bretth> The brightness and ringtone pages are fine on my BQ E4.5 and Nexus 4... Unfortunately I don't have an MX4 to try to replicate on
[18:37] <dhbiker> are all images the same ?
[18:38] <dhbiker> packages ?
[18:39] <bretth> There would be some minor differences due to different hardware, but a missing top bar doesnt seem like a separate issue.  Can anyone else replicate?
[18:39] <dhbiker> do you have RC proposed on both devices ?
[18:40] <tathhu> dhbiker, i can do a quick flash on to my krillin :P
[18:41] <dhbiker> nah don't bother
[18:41] <dhbiker> it will probably go away on the next update
[18:41] <dhbiker> == tomorrow most probably
[18:42] <tathhu> :P
[18:42] <tathhu> ok I've thinking it anyway
[18:42] <tathhu> but too lazy, lol
[18:42] <bretth> Ah, I'm not.  You're probably right then :)
[18:42] <dhbiker> tathhu, damn lazyass
[18:43] <tathhu> dhbiker, sorry <3
[18:43] <dhbiker> We had slight regression sneaking in through the
[18:43] <dhbiker> ubuntu-ui-toolkit landing that happened today - making headers for some
[18:43] <dhbiker> system-settings pages empty [1]. That's still being worked on - we need
[18:43] <dhbiker> it fixed before the release.
[18:43] <dhbiker> there we go.
[18:44] <dhbiker> sil2100, to the rescue... and his emails :P
[19:11] <Kivi> how do you take a screenshot on ubuntu phone?
[19:11] <popey> vol+ and vol-
[19:12] <Kivi> nvm
[19:12] <Kivi> ah
[19:12] <Kivi> there
[19:26] <Kivi> I'm having trouble running my qml app on my phone. In both the sdk and from qmlscene, it gives me this error:  i.imgur.com/ycwvKgy.png
[19:26] <Kivi> I'm not sure where to find the coredump.
[19:35] <davmor2> Kivi: try /var/crash
[19:36] <Kivi> thanks
[19:38] <dobey> Kivi: are you just trying to run "qmlscene" in the terminal app on the phone to run your app?
[19:44] <Kivi> dobey, someone told me to try that. The sdk was spitting out the same error
[19:46] <dobey> you can't just run "qmlscene foo.qml" directly on the phone.
[19:47] <Kivi> dobey, I think he wanted to see what the coredump was. In any case; I cant run it from the sdk, or my phone.
[19:47] <Kivi> anyways here is the dump: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12699045/
[19:47] <Kivi> http://askubuntu.com/questions/681615/loading-module-libubuntu-application-api-touch-mirclient-so-3-0-0-this-plugin?noredirect=1#comment991596_681615
[19:48] <Kivi> and that's my askubuntu thread on this
[19:48] <Kivi> I made a few sample projects from the sdk to see if they would run. All of them were having issues, except for the .qmlproject based one.
[19:59] <goofy_> hello world :)
[20:00] <Kivi> hmmmm... Sdk-Launcher> Received a failed event
[20:00] <Kivi> I think it must be the Event, because it does not crash immediately with that other warning...
[20:18] <Kivi> popey or dobey do you think I may be able to solve this issue by flashing my phone to a different channel?
[20:18] <Kivi> popey, I'm using the one you gave me.
[20:22] <dobey> Kivi: what channel are you using?
[20:23] <Kivi> dobey, its a nexus 4 running... damn my logs are deleted. an aquaris channel.
[20:23] <Kivi> What's the command to check again?
[20:24] <dobey> why aren't you using ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu ?
[20:25] <Kivi> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en
[20:25] <Kivi>   
[20:25] <Kivi> there it is
[20:25] <Kivi> uhm, I was using ubuntu-touch/devel/ubuntu
[20:25] <Kivi> because the guide here told me to
[20:26] <Kivi> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/
[20:26] <Kivi> that was an old image, and I asked popey what I should use, and he said he was using that.. Anyway, I'll go ahead and flash I guess.
[20:26] <Kivi> dobey, so I should use ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu ?
[20:27] <dobey> i think so yes
[20:28] <Kivi> dobey, okay thanks
[20:53] <Kivi> dobey, :(
[20:53] <Kivi> nope
[21:43] <lawilog> hi! i try to install ubuntu touch on a nexus 7 in 2012 version, i.e. device grouper. looks like there is no grouper image anywhere on https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ , but there seem to be some on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ - can i use them (e.g. with ubuntu-device-flash --custom-tarball ...) if so, how? which images to use? if not, is there any other option to get ubuntu touch on that de
[21:49] <mcphail> lawilog: as I understand it, support for the 2012 nexus 7 was dropped completely
[21:53] <lawilog> is it possible to build the images for 2012 nexus 7 myself? as Ubuntu Touch 15.10 still has grouper images avaliable and drivers etc. are avaliable, it looks like no real development need to be done, only some technical work (?)
[22:11] <Kivi> mmmm I tranferred the project to cmake.... I can at least now run it on my phone
[22:11] <Kivi> :)
[22:18] <lawilog> This page https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/devices/ says about 2014 nexus 7: "These devices are no longer actively developed and are not supported as ongoing targets for Ubuntu development, although images may be built for them through community involvement." how?
[22:19] <lawilog> ar, 2014 -> 2012
[22:43] <nhaines> lawilog: basically if someone figures out a way to port the graphics driver forward to the new kernel, which was either not possible or likely to take a massive amount of work.
[22:44] <nhaines> Does anyone know if the mouse cursor bit ended up making it in the OTA-7 bits?  ogra_, popey?
[22:45] <popey> nhaines: i don't know, mhall119 was playing with that recently
[22:45] <popey> but what he was using was (I think) somewhat unstable
[22:45] <nhaines> popey: yeah, I think he was adding in silos and packages.  A mouse theme package in particular.
[22:46] <popey> yeah
[23:07] <greyback> nhaines: mouse cursor not going to land until after ota7
[23:09] <nhaines> greyback: shame, but good to know.  Thanks.  :)
[23:12] <greyback> yeah sorry, we just didn't get it ready in time
[23:19] <nhaines> greyback: well, better ready than buggy.