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zmoylan-piand all it will take to reboot mcguyver is a paperclip a pocket knife and a dismantled vhs recorder...00:16
diddledanlol00:21
zmoylan-pii really want this to put up beside sledge hammer on my wall... http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/the-macgyver-multitool/ :-D00:26
diddledanthe new tesla has a "bioweapon defence button"00:33
diddledanhttp://www.theverge.com/2015/9/30/9421719/tesla-model-x-bioweapon-defense-mode-button00:33
zmoylan-piwell if it doesn't work they won't be able to sue00:36
diddledanapparently android 6 dropped earlier today?00:41
diddledanfor the impatient: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images00:41
m0nkey_wut? not for a nexus 4?00:41
diddledanseems not00:42
m0nkey_Wow, Nexus 7 gets it.00:42
diddledanonly the 2013 n7, not the 2012 model00:43
m0nkey_I got a 201300:43
diddledanhaha: http://uk.businessinsider.com/difference-between-porn-habits-of-ios-and-android-users-2015-10?r=US&IR=T (safe, tho the links on that page aren't)00:46
zmoylan-piand windows phone users are masochists? :-P00:50
diddledan\o/00:52
* zmoylan-pi considers that somewhere on the planet there is a person who has used win ce 1,2,3, pocket pc 95,95, winmobile 5,6,6.5, winphone 7, 8... and LIKES it... ::shudders::00:54
zmoylan-pimy life is empty now that i've seen this knife block :-D https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/sht-happens-sometimes-26.png?w=600&h=80603:28
MartijnVdSzmoylan-1i: awesome knife blocvk04:15
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* diddledan stabs zmoylan-pi04:20
diddledanI'm guessing it's caeser?04:21
diddledanof the julian variety04:21
* diddledan proddy prod04:21
zmoylan-piet tu diddledan?04:30
diddledanbrutus04:31
zmoylan-pibeware the steaks in march04:31
diddledanit's the ides I'm worried about04:32
diddledanthe ides are the worst!04:36
* zmoylan-pi looks at visual studio >_>04:57
zmoylan-piand eclipse >_>05:00
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Guest32534morning06:47
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MooDoohello even06:48
diddledanm0006:52
MooDoo:)07:09
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diddledanwhat time is the Microsoft thingy this afternoon?07:22
diddledanand.. why is september/october such a hotbed of announcements every year these days?07:23
MyrttiChristmas07:27
DJOnesMY cousins birthday is 25th December, I think they're trying to suggest birthday presents for him07:29
MooDoodiddledan: it's annoying isn't it, but then again it's my fault our kids were born on the same day 3 years apart lol07:32
diddledanhaha. MooDoo, that's impressive timing07:32
davmor2Morning all08:35
MooDoomorning davmor2 :)08:38
davmor2So I have dark horse stuck in my head this morning08:48
davmor2popey: is that modern enough for you, I don't think she was even alive in the 80's08:48
diddledanmorning davmor208:51
davmor2morning diddledan08:52
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Mad Hatter Day! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ09:01
MooDoomorning JamesTait09:01
JamesTait๐Ÿ‘‹ MooDoo09:01
* zmoylan-pi wonders were my mercury maze is now... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utPI8r0l6aQ09:02
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlVPNDpNHic09:02
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:05
diddledancouchbase has hit 4.0? :-o09:08
diddledanwow I remember when it was in it's infancy09:08
davmor2JamesTait: how's that for a blast from the past :)09:11
JamesTaitdavmor2, I don't even remember that version.09:12
davmor2JamesTait: pfff whippersnapper, I think it was added to a radio version probably bbc and repeated in the 70's and 80's09:14
zmoylan-pisome dumb rule that was started for a good reason hanging on and driving people nuts years later...09:14
zmoylan-piwhoops, wrong channel :-)09:14
JamesTaitzmoylan-pi, that mercury maze looks fun!09:14
JamesTaitYou wouldn't get away with that these days! ๐Ÿ˜‰09:15
zmoylan-piit was fun, it really thought you patience and good hand eye cordination.  especially when you used it on long car journies over bumpy roads in 70s ireland09:16
davmor2zmoylan-pi: or 2015 in the uk09:17
zmoylan-pinah 70s ireland was worse.  an irish company developed suspension to work for armoured cars back then that is now in use in a lot of mine resistant vehicles... :-)09:18
diddledanok, so the speed upgrade that virgin promised this year isn't getting to me until "between april 2016 and september 2016"09:44
zmoylan-piwhich isn't this year unless you're an accountant... :-)09:45
diddledanand I don't get it because new customers seem to be able to already get uit09:47
diddledanref: http://store.virginmedia.com/broadband/vivid.html09:47
MooDoogot my email saying jan 2016, but i'm not too bothered 50 to 7009:47
zmoylan-piah well, new customers are more important than old customers... sad but true09:47
MooDoo50 is ok for me at the moment...my self hosted websites work fine, so i'm happy enough lol09:48
diploDebating the move after xmas to Virgin, maybe it'll stop all the bloomin mail I get from them :D10:04
zmoylan-pithey just bought an irish isp so a lot of people found themselves to be virgin customers wether they wanted to or not.  will have to see if they make things worse her10:05
diploOoh expanding then10:12
zmoylan-pior just vultures waiting for other companies to fail and swooping in...10:12
davmor2MooDoo: 100 โ†’ 15010:13
* awilkins is pretty happy with Virgin TBH10:17
awilkinsThe only thing I'd like is for them to unbundle their services10:17
awilkinsI barely use the landline anymore10:18
awilkinsbarely == never10:18
zmoylan-pino one rings you to do a survey? :-)10:18
awilkinsOnly people who call me on the landline are robots, salesmen, and the ex-wife10:18
awilkinsAnd the ex-wife has my mobile number10:18
awilkinsFOr some reason they don't call mobiles with evil calls as much10:19
awilkinsProbably costs them more10:19
diploawilkins: Only person who does mine is my mother10:19
diploI check it maybe once a month, have occasionally answer machine messages but 95% of the time I forget to put the phone back on the charger10:20
awilkinsGah, old people and their remembering phone numbers10:20
* zmoylan-pi puts numbers in wallpaper pic of phones10:21
diploOnly thing I'd miss from Sky would be Sky Atlantic I think, but as I don't watch TV as much now I'm really not that bothered10:21
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diddledansky's dvr just isn't versatile enough for me - I like the ability to stream via plex to anywhere in the world10:34
zmoylan-piso you can watch your tv while on holiday?10:35
diddledanso instead I get my tv via "other" sources10:35
diddledan:-)10:35
diddledanit would be really nice if plex could somehow get netflix into their ecosystem so I can watch via netflix if they have it or via a less kosher file if they don't10:37
diddledanin other news, sonarr is awesome10:37
diddledanformally known as nzbdrone10:38
Myrttiwe just ordered a new Samsung telly10:46
Myrttiand get-iplayer is great10:46
bigcalmMyrtti: have you got spotify to successfully cast to the chromecast? I can cast youtube no problem. But spotify will see the device, try to connect and just keep playing on the mobile10:53
Myrttibigcalm: we don't currently have any Chromecasts plugged in, waiting for the new ones to be delivered10:54
MyrttiI don't even remember where I've put the old ones when I cleared the TV stand last night to make way for the new telly10:55
bigcalmAh10:55
bigcalmIt might be that it doesn't work with the old ones10:55
bigcalmI know they are only 30 quid a pop, but I don't know if it's worth it if I already have the old ones10:55
bigcalmThe only one I would like to get now though is the audio one10:56
Myrttiwe got two of those and one of the new ones10:56
Myrttiwas considering more, but then we remembered we've got a Nexus player, too10:57
zmoylan-pimore devices watching you than people watching them :-)11:05
knightwiseyo peeps11:07
* zmoylan-pi rates knightwise on peeple app as 'hipster' 6/10 :-)11:09
Myrttizmoylan-pi: something like that11:13
Myrttipwรครค. well boo. Moto360fW is now available in Google Store.11:20
Myrttionly in rose gold :-(11:20
Myrttiand moto maker on Motorola's site doesn't have the steel casing :-|11:20
zmoylan-pibut but everyone is supposed to want rose gold... :-)11:29
Myrttiew.11:30
zmoylan-pimarketing said so11:30
knightwiseyo peeps11:54
MooDoohowdy knightwise11:58
popeyyo knightwise12:01
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foobarryhttp://i.imgur.com/AFMDRHN.png12:37
foobarryflash must die12:37
popeyfoobarry: http://www.bbc.co.uk/html512:43
popeyopt in, job done12:43
zmoylan-piflash will die... every day you use it and take a chunk of the os with it :-)12:44
foobarryim on firefox12:44
foobarrySorry, we can't provide you with the HTML5 Player beta because your browser doesn't support Media Source Extensions. Please try another browser.12:44
zmoylan-piand this is after firefox added the drm that we didn't want12:45
popeyworks in ubuntu browser ;)12:45
diploYeah FF on ubuntu I get the same, chromium works ok with that link though12:49
popeyAlso works on Ubuntu Phone :)12:52
awilkinsWorks in Chrome12:53
awilkinsHang on "Ubuntu Browser" ... isn't that Firefox (the default)12:54
popeyno12:55
awilkinsCool, iPlayer works in Chromium... netflix doesn't as yet12:56
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bigcalmBBC radio still requires flash :(13:13
popeyyeah13:24
popeyor an app13:25
davmor2app-iness app-iness is a gift that I possess13:26
diddledanwow, this hololens demo is impressive14:19
ali1234did they make a new one?14:19
diddledanthey've got monsters breaking through the walls14:20
diddledanit's a game tentatively called "project xray"14:20
diddledanthey're announcing the availability of a developer kit starting early next year at $300014:22
diddledanthat's quite a tidy sum14:22
popeyI like that they originally said that hololens will ship "within the lifetime of windows 10"14:23
popeygiven Windows 10 is effectively a rolling (final) release, that gives them quite a while14:24
ali1234valve is going to rule vr14:24
daftykin1diddledan: this lass should've gone to specsavers14:25
diddledanlol14:25
diddledanapplause for a bent screen?14:26
daftykin1yeah i figure something off screen must've happened :>14:26
daftykin1wat14:27
diddledansee, I wouldn't use it for fitness. I'd use it for random geekiness like "how high am I right now?" rather than "what's the height doing to me"14:28
daftykin1client was trying to get me to work out how to view more detailed heartrate info on his fitbit things web dashboard14:28
daftykin1i struggle to be motivated to deal with such things14:29
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daftykins$249, or ยฃ250 ;)14:32
daftykinswho is this guy they keep showing resizing a window on his laptop o014:36
diddledanlol14:37
diddledanhe's the windows guy :-p14:37
diddledanhe's showing you that you can resize windows on windows14:37
daftykinswhilst you're at a windows live event14:37
daftykinsso meta14:37
diddledanI think panos has taken a bit too much of some substance14:37
daftykinsyes! he has a novel approach14:38
daftykinsoh it stays connected huh? that's nice.14:38
diddledanliquid cooling?!14:38
daftykins*blink*14:39
diddledanlol14:39
daftykinsbest get to the sewing shop for those pocket extensions14:39
diddledanI like that reference to the leaks14:39
daftykinshmm that one passed me by?14:40
daftykinsare those not the shortest arms you've ever seen?14:46
diddledanhave they had a corporate mandate to take speed before presenting?14:46
daftykinsmust be why Joe Belfiore tweeted that he's at home watching, he must say no14:47
daftykins:>14:47
daftykinsi spy displayport, HDMI, USB x 3 and something else14:48
diddledanpower maybe14:49
daftykinscould be another USB C14:49
diddledanso you can charge your phone while docked14:49
daftykinsthis is pretty impressive14:50
diddledanyeah I like that14:50
diddledanall they're missing is a tablet-dock :-p14:52
daftykinswould make more sense if that display dock let the phone sit in it, but i suppose that anchors the handset then14:52
* diddledan wipes the leaking from the corner of his mouth15:01
diddledanthat looks nice15:02
diddledanif I knew music I would be really excited by that app15:10
daftykinslatest leak: musician's compositions stolen from cloud15:10
daftykins:D15:10
diddledanI'm kinda excited that it exists even though I wouldn't be able to use it15:10
diddledanwhat's the price?!15:11
daftykinsone birrion dorrah15:12
diddledanwhat keeps happening to the audio?15:12
daftykinsouch there's that audio glitch again15:12
daftykins16GB RAM at last15:12
diddledanI want the one with 1TB and 16GB15:12
diddledanwith those specs it really would be able to beat my desktop15:13
daftykinsanother little box15:13
diddledannice realtime demo15:14
daftykinsthat model is chugging ;)15:14
diddledansurfaceception15:14
diddledana surface within a surface15:14
daftykinssmooth my posterior15:14
diddledanthat typecover looks much friendlier to the fingers15:15
diddledanthe trackpad on the s3 typecover was far too teeny15:16
diddledansound glitch again15:17
diddledanI really like the idea of allowing my niece and nephew the ability to use a locked-down account which is totally isolated from my normal day-to-day stuff15:18
daftykinsyou still won't get it back ;)15:18
diddledanwindows hello would be awesome for them15:18
diddledangood point15:18
diddledanMINE!15:18
daftykinsi still don't enjoy biometrics in devices15:19
daftykinswhat if i settle my hand there and get my prints lifted! :)15:19
diddledanI want one of these15:19
daftykinsi think it's meant to be silver/grey but looks pink in the light15:19
daftykins$899, i3, 4GB, 128GB :P15:20
diddledananother?15:20
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daftykinszomg15:20
diddledan:-o15:21
diddledanthe leaks didn't know about this one15:21
daftykinsthat hinge looks weird15:21
diddledanI think it might fold back15:21
diddledannope, just a funky hinge15:22
diddledanlooks shiny15:22
diddledan12 hour flattery?15:25
daftykinsany planet, bold claim!15:26
diddledanany known planet15:27
diddledanooh15:28
diddledansame dock15:28
diddledanthat's a good plan15:28
diddledanholy poo that was fast15:28
daftykins300MB/sec is actually quite slow for a PCI-E SSD, i didn't spot whether that was USB attached the external device though15:29
daftykinsyee-ouch15:32
diddledanjoe belfiore says there's more15:32
daftykinsO_O15:32
diddledanwhat?15:34
daftykinshaha15:34
daftykinshad a feeling that was coming15:34
diddledanI just exclaimed out loud15:34
diddledanstanding ovulation!15:34
diddledanlol - over time15:36
daftykinshaha breakin' the rules15:36
diddledanaah the big honcho15:41
diddledanI like that he took a back seat15:42
diddledan110meeeleon is impressive in 10 weeks15:43
daftykinsdid you notice the comment about knowing users are using the netflix app over visiting the site?15:43
daftykinsspeaks of the data reports sending back ;)15:44
diddledanyup15:44
daftykinswell there y'go15:53
daftykinsi used the Edge browser to watch that with funky HLS15:53
diddledanthe surfacebook starts at $1299 for 128GB/8GB and goes up to $2699 for 512GB/16GB16:20
daftykinsouch!16:20
diddledanthat 1299 should be 149916:21
diddledanI mistoped16:21
daftykinsreckon Linux'll run well? ;)16:21
diddledanlol16:21
daftykins*detach base*16:21
daftykins*panic!*16:21
diddledanyey for kernel panics16:21
daftykinskinda strikes me as being optimus but-even-worse16:21
diddledanthere's only the top-end model that comes with 16GB of rams :-(16:22
diddledanso you need to stump-up the full whack for a reasonable amount of memory16:22
daftykinsthis is what saddens me about those Dell XPS 13s, being constrained by what other choices you make to improve some components16:25
daftykinsand 8GB being the max in that thing16:25
* popey notes he's been yanking linux computers out of docking stations for _years_16:36
popeyand not triggered kernel panics16:36
popeybet those are funky USB3 ones which don't work though :S16:37
daftykinsi might've been following wrong but i thought the nvidia chip was in the base with the keyboard16:39
diddledanyeah the nvidia chip is in the keyboard which can be detached from the main pc16:40
daftykinsmmm so it'd have to be a bit beefier than USB between, which is what had me thinking it'd be more of a challenge16:40
diddledanit'll be a pci-style connection like thunderbolt16:41
daftykinsandroid M dev images up for the Nexus 5 and so on o016:41
daftykinsnewly patched build ending in 'T' for my old Nexus 4 too16:41
daftykinsnth libstagefright fix ;)16:42
diddledanoh dear :-( googley play-doh just tweeted that there's a new twiglet book out16:42
diddledanque tweens scrambling to get every last copy16:43
diddledancue**16:43
daftykinsi just put my new set of 19 books on the shelf :D16:44
daftykinsretrieved the bookmark from where the cat hid it16:44
diddledan\o/16:44
diddledanalthough I'm not sure that hide-the-bookmark is appropriate for a family-friendly environment16:44
diddledaneuphemisms ftw!16:45
diddledanwhy do I always read EMEA as Enema?16:46
diddledanapparently Adobe have an enema16:46
daftykinsof the state?16:57
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diddledanarriving tomorrow: sudo bash -c "iptables -D INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -i tun0 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -s 89.151.124.104/29 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -s 89.151.106.192/28 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -s 178.236.158.192/27 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -s 89.151.87.8/29 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -19:40
diddledanerm19:40
diddledanyeah that was a bad paste19:41
diddledanhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00Y2JYZOC19:41
dogmatic69_Hi all21:41
dogmatic69_anyone had luck doing a remote session to ubuntu?21:42
dogmatic69_apparently got to use another desktop manager? xfce21:42
brobostigonremote session? X-redirction or something like vnc?21:43
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)21:44
dogmatic69_brobostigon: well just using windows remote for example to connect to home pc21:44
dogmatic69_I have it working with xfce, set in .xsession, but some things are annoying. eg: chrome is open on my actual pc, so I cant open chrome.21:45
dogmatic69_well, I can but it opens on my main desktop, and not the remote connection :/21:45
brobostigonwell, there are many possibilies, we need to narrow it down abit,21:45
dogmatic69_14.10 iirc21:46
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brobostigonalso, i have only used ssh redirection, no X-redirection or otherwise.21:46
dogmatic69ssh redirection is?21:47
brobostigonexample, redirection traffic over and ssh connection, so my machine at home thinks its connected to my server directly rather than via the internet inbetween, ie like a vpn etc.21:48
dogmatic69sure thing. but I want GUI and not just terminal21:48
dogmatic69I have seen there is ways to do it over ssh also, but need to get it working properly first :)21:49
brobostigonas i said, there are different ways, we need more information as to the method.21:49
dogmatic69ok, I installed xrdp locally21:49
dogmatic69and then using windows remote desktop to connect21:49
brobostigonrdp, ok.21:49
dogmatic69got my router forwarding some random port to local:rdp port21:50
dogmatic69I dont mind changing if there is something better than xrdp21:50
dogmatic69It is just from tutorials on the web I followed21:51
dogmatic69From what I have read, Unity just cant do remote desktop21:51
daftykinsi hope not 14.10, that's been EOL a while ;)22:12
dogmatic69daftykins: I upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10 and it almost killed everything. not been brave enough to do a upgrade again...22:15
daftykins:S22:15
directhexisn't 14.10 EOL?22:15
dogmatic69I really need a new ssd and install from clean.. been running this since 10, loads of updates...22:16
daftykinssince about July?22:16
directhexyes, as of july22:16
directhexhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-July/000197.html22:16
dogmatic69might checkout gnome322:16
dogmatic69maybe rdp works with that...22:17
directhexi use rdp fine22:17
directhexusing xfreerdp. rdesktop doesn't support ssl22:19
SupaYoshiHi!22:37
SupaYoshiI have an offtopic question relating ISP's in the UK (Talk Talk or Plus Net) and I'd like to know what channel I'd have to go too22:37
daftykinsjust ask22:43
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m0nkey_I think theres a channel on Dalnet or QuakeNet, something in relation to ThinkBoardband. I don't recall, it's been a while.23:32

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