[00:16] <zmoylan-pi> and all it will take to reboot mcguyver is a paperclip a pocket knife and a dismantled vhs recorder...
[00:21] <diddledan> lol
[00:26] <zmoylan-pi> i really want this to put up beside sledge hammer on my wall... http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/the-macgyver-multitool/ :-D
[00:33] <diddledan> the new tesla has a "bioweapon defence button"
[00:33] <diddledan> http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/30/9421719/tesla-model-x-bioweapon-defense-mode-button
[00:36] <zmoylan-pi> well if it doesn't work they won't be able to sue
[00:41] <diddledan> apparently android 6 dropped earlier today?
[00:41] <diddledan> for the impatient: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
[00:41] <m0nkey_> wut? not for a nexus 4?
[00:42] <diddledan> seems not
[00:42] <m0nkey_> Wow, Nexus 7 gets it.
[00:43] <diddledan> only the 2013 n7, not the 2012 model
[00:43] <m0nkey_> I got a 2013
[00:46] <diddledan> haha: http://uk.businessinsider.com/difference-between-porn-habits-of-ios-and-android-users-2015-10?r=US&IR=T (safe, tho the links on that page aren't)
[00:50] <zmoylan-pi> and windows phone users are masochists? :-P
[00:52] <diddledan> \o/
[00:54]  * zmoylan-pi considers that somewhere on the planet there is a person who has used win ce 1,2,3, pocket pc 95,95, winmobile 5,6,6.5, winphone 7, 8... and LIKES it... ::shudders::
[03:28] <zmoylan-pi> my life is empty now that i've seen this knife block :-D https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/sht-happens-sometimes-26.png?w=600&h=806
[04:15] <MartijnVdS> zmoylan-1i: awesome knife blocvk
[04:20]  * diddledan stabs zmoylan-pi
[04:21] <diddledan> I'm guessing it's caeser?
[04:21] <diddledan> of the julian variety
[04:21]  * diddledan proddy prod
[04:30] <zmoylan-pi> et tu diddledan?
[04:31] <diddledan> brutus
[04:31] <zmoylan-pi> beware the steaks in march
[04:32] <diddledan> it's the ides I'm worried about
[04:36] <diddledan> the ides are the worst!
[04:57]  * zmoylan-pi looks at visual studio >_>
[05:00] <zmoylan-pi> and eclipse >_>
[06:47] <Guest32534> morning
[06:48] <MooDoo> hello even
[06:52] <diddledan> m00
[07:09] <MooDoo> :)
[07:22] <diddledan> what time is the Microsoft thingy this afternoon?
[07:23] <diddledan> and.. why is september/october such a hotbed of announcements every year these days?
[07:27] <Myrtti> Christmas
[07:29] <DJOnes> MY cousins birthday is 25th December, I think they're trying to suggest birthday presents for him
[07:32] <MooDoo> diddledan: it's annoying isn't it, but then again it's my fault our kids were born on the same day 3 years apart lol
[07:32] <diddledan> haha. MooDoo, that's impressive timing
[08:35] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:38] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 :)
[08:48] <davmor2> So I have dark horse stuck in my head this morning
[08:48] <davmor2> popey: is that modern enough for you, I don't think she was even alive in the 80's
[08:51] <diddledan> morning davmor2
[08:52] <davmor2> morning diddledan
[09:01] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Mad Hatter Day! 😃
[09:01] <MooDoo> morning JamesTait
[09:01] <JamesTait> 👋 MooDoo
[09:02]  * zmoylan-pi wonders were my mercury maze is now... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utPI8r0l6aQ
[09:02] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlVPNDpNHic
[09:05] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:08] <diddledan> couchbase has hit 4.0? :-o
[09:08] <diddledan> wow I remember when it was in it's infancy
[09:11] <davmor2> JamesTait: how's that for a blast from the past :)
[09:12] <JamesTait> davmor2, I don't even remember that version.
[09:14] <davmor2> JamesTait: pfff whippersnapper, I think it was added to a radio version probably bbc and repeated in the 70's and 80's
[09:14] <zmoylan-pi> some dumb rule that was started for a good reason hanging on and driving people nuts years later...
[09:14] <zmoylan-pi> whoops, wrong channel :-)
[09:14] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, that mercury maze looks fun!
[09:15] <JamesTait> You wouldn't get away with that these days! 😉
[09:16] <zmoylan-pi> it was fun, it really thought you patience and good hand eye cordination.  especially when you used it on long car journies over bumpy roads in 70s ireland
[09:17] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: or 2015 in the uk
[09:18] <zmoylan-pi> nah 70s ireland was worse.  an irish company developed suspension to work for armoured cars back then that is now in use in a lot of mine resistant vehicles... :-)
[09:44] <diddledan> ok, so the speed upgrade that virgin promised this year isn't getting to me until "between april 2016 and september 2016"
[09:45] <zmoylan-pi> which isn't this year unless you're an accountant... :-)
[09:47] <diddledan> and I don't get it because new customers seem to be able to already get uit
[09:47] <diddledan> ref: http://store.virginmedia.com/broadband/vivid.html
[09:47] <MooDoo> got my email saying jan 2016, but i'm not too bothered 50 to 70
[09:47] <zmoylan-pi> ah well, new customers are more important than old customers... sad but true
[09:48] <MooDoo> 50 is ok for me at the moment...my self hosted websites work fine, so i'm happy enough lol
[10:04] <diplo> Debating the move after xmas to Virgin, maybe it'll stop all the bloomin mail I get from them :D
[10:05] <zmoylan-pi> they just bought an irish isp so a lot of people found themselves to be virgin customers wether they wanted to or not.  will have to see if they make things worse her
[10:12] <diplo> Ooh expanding then
[10:12] <zmoylan-pi> or just vultures waiting for other companies to fail and swooping in...
[10:13] <davmor2> MooDoo: 100 → 150
[10:17]  * awilkins is pretty happy with Virgin TBH
[10:17] <awilkins> The only thing I'd like is for them to unbundle their services
[10:18] <awilkins> I barely use the landline anymore
[10:18] <awilkins> barely == never
[10:18] <zmoylan-pi> no one rings you to do a survey? :-)
[10:18] <awilkins> Only people who call me on the landline are robots, salesmen, and the ex-wife
[10:18] <awilkins> And the ex-wife has my mobile number
[10:19] <awilkins> FOr some reason they don't call mobiles with evil calls as much
[10:19] <awilkins> Probably costs them more
[10:19] <diplo> awilkins: Only person who does mine is my mother
[10:20] <diplo> I check it maybe once a month, have occasionally answer machine messages but 95% of the time I forget to put the phone back on the charger
[10:20] <awilkins> Gah, old people and their remembering phone numbers
[10:21]  * zmoylan-pi puts numbers in wallpaper pic of phones
[10:21] <diplo> Only thing I'd miss from Sky would be Sky Atlantic I think, but as I don't watch TV as much now I'm really not that bothered
[10:34] <diddledan> sky's dvr just isn't versatile enough for me - I like the ability to stream via plex to anywhere in the world
[10:35] <zmoylan-pi> so you can watch your tv while on holiday?
[10:35] <diddledan> so instead I get my tv via "other" sources
[10:35] <diddledan> :-)
[10:37] <diddledan> it would be really nice if plex could somehow get netflix into their ecosystem so I can watch via netflix if they have it or via a less kosher file if they don't
[10:37] <diddledan> in other news, sonarr is awesome
[10:38] <diddledan> formally known as nzbdrone
[10:46] <Myrtti> we just ordered a new Samsung telly
[10:46] <Myrtti> and get-iplayer is great
[10:53] <bigcalm> Myrtti: have you got spotify to successfully cast to the chromecast? I can cast youtube no problem. But spotify will see the device, try to connect and just keep playing on the mobile
[10:54] <Myrtti> bigcalm: we don't currently have any Chromecasts plugged in, waiting for the new ones to be delivered
[10:55] <Myrtti> I don't even remember where I've put the old ones when I cleared the TV stand last night to make way for the new telly
[10:55] <bigcalm> Ah
[10:55] <bigcalm> It might be that it doesn't work with the old ones
[10:55] <bigcalm> I know they are only 30 quid a pop, but I don't know if it's worth it if I already have the old ones
[10:56] <bigcalm> The only one I would like to get now though is the audio one
[10:56] <Myrtti> we got two of those and one of the new ones
[10:57] <Myrtti> was considering more, but then we remembered we've got a Nexus player, too
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> more devices watching you than people watching them :-)
[11:07] <knightwise> yo peeps
[11:09]  * zmoylan-pi rates knightwise on peeple app as 'hipster' 6/10 :-)
[11:13] <Myrtti> zmoylan-pi: something like that
[11:20] <Myrtti> pwää. well boo. Moto360fW is now available in Google Store.
[11:20] <Myrtti> only in rose gold :-(
[11:20] <Myrtti> and moto maker on Motorola's site doesn't have the steel casing :-|
[11:29] <zmoylan-pi> but but everyone is supposed to want rose gold... :-)
[11:30] <Myrtti> ew.
[11:30] <zmoylan-pi> marketing said so
[11:54] <knightwise> yo peeps
[11:58] <MooDoo> howdy knightwise
[12:01] <popey> yo knightwise
[12:37] <foobarry> http://i.imgur.com/AFMDRHN.png
[12:37] <foobarry> flash must die
[12:43] <popey> foobarry: http://www.bbc.co.uk/html5
[12:43] <popey> opt in, job done
[12:44] <zmoylan-pi> flash will die... every day you use it and take a chunk of the os with it :-)
[12:44] <foobarry> im on firefox
[12:44] <foobarry> Sorry, we can't provide you with the HTML5 Player beta because your browser doesn't support Media Source Extensions. Please try another browser.
[12:45] <zmoylan-pi> and this is after firefox added the drm that we didn't want
[12:45] <popey> works in ubuntu browser ;)
[12:49] <diplo> Yeah FF on ubuntu I get the same, chromium works ok with that link though
[12:52] <popey> Also works on Ubuntu Phone :)
[12:53] <awilkins> Works in Chrome
[12:54] <awilkins> Hang on "Ubuntu Browser" ... isn't that Firefox (the default)
[12:55] <popey> no
[12:56] <awilkins> Cool, iPlayer works in Chromium... netflix doesn't as yet
[13:13] <bigcalm> BBC radio still requires flash :(
[13:24] <popey> yeah
[13:25] <popey> or an app
[13:26] <davmor2> app-iness app-iness is a gift that I possess
[14:19] <diddledan> wow, this hololens demo is impressive
[14:19] <ali1234> did they make a new one?
[14:20] <diddledan> they've got monsters breaking through the walls
[14:20] <diddledan> it's a game tentatively called "project xray"
[14:22] <diddledan> they're announcing the availability of a developer kit starting early next year at $3000
[14:22] <diddledan> that's quite a tidy sum
[14:23] <popey> I like that they originally said that hololens will ship "within the lifetime of windows 10"
[14:24] <popey> given Windows 10 is effectively a rolling (final) release, that gives them quite a while
[14:24] <ali1234> valve is going to rule vr
[14:25] <daftykin1> diddledan: this lass should've gone to specsavers
[14:25] <diddledan> lol
[14:26] <diddledan> applause for a bent screen?
[14:26] <daftykin1> yeah i figure something off screen must've happened :>
[14:27] <daftykin1> wat
[14:28] <diddledan> see, I wouldn't use it for fitness. I'd use it for random geekiness like "how high am I right now?" rather than "what's the height doing to me"
[14:28] <daftykin1> client was trying to get me to work out how to view more detailed heartrate info on his fitbit things web dashboard
[14:29] <daftykin1> i struggle to be motivated to deal with such things
[14:32] <daftykins> $249, or £250 ;)
[14:36] <daftykins> who is this guy they keep showing resizing a window on his laptop o0
[14:37] <diddledan> lol
[14:37] <diddledan> he's the windows guy :-p
[14:37] <diddledan> he's showing you that you can resize windows on windows
[14:37] <daftykins> whilst you're at a windows live event
[14:37] <daftykins> so meta
[14:37] <diddledan> I think panos has taken a bit too much of some substance
[14:38] <daftykins> yes! he has a novel approach
[14:38] <daftykins> oh it stays connected huh? that's nice.
[14:38] <diddledan> liquid cooling?!
[14:39] <daftykins> *blink*
[14:39] <diddledan> lol
[14:39] <daftykins> best get to the sewing shop for those pocket extensions
[14:39] <diddledan> I like that reference to the leaks
[14:40] <daftykins> hmm that one passed me by?
[14:46] <daftykins> are those not the shortest arms you've ever seen?
[14:46] <diddledan> have they had a corporate mandate to take speed before presenting?
[14:47] <daftykins> must be why Joe Belfiore tweeted that he's at home watching, he must say no
[14:47] <daftykins> :>
[14:48] <daftykins> i spy displayport, HDMI, USB x 3 and something else
[14:49] <diddledan> power maybe
[14:49] <daftykins> could be another USB C
[14:49] <diddledan> so you can charge your phone while docked
[14:50] <daftykins> this is pretty impressive
[14:50] <diddledan> yeah I like that
[14:52] <diddledan> all they're missing is a tablet-dock :-p
[14:52] <daftykins> would make more sense if that display dock let the phone sit in it, but i suppose that anchors the handset then
[15:01]  * diddledan wipes the leaking from the corner of his mouth
[15:02] <diddledan> that looks nice
[15:10] <diddledan> if I knew music I would be really excited by that app
[15:10] <daftykins> latest leak: musician's compositions stolen from cloud
[15:10] <daftykins> :D
[15:10] <diddledan> I'm kinda excited that it exists even though I wouldn't be able to use it
[15:11] <diddledan> what's the price?!
[15:12] <daftykins> one birrion dorrah
[15:12] <diddledan> what keeps happening to the audio?
[15:12] <daftykins> ouch there's that audio glitch again
[15:12] <daftykins> 16GB RAM at last
[15:12] <diddledan> I want the one with 1TB and 16GB
[15:13] <diddledan> with those specs it really would be able to beat my desktop
[15:13] <daftykins> another little box
[15:14] <diddledan> nice realtime demo
[15:14] <daftykins> that model is chugging ;)
[15:14] <diddledan> surfaceception
[15:14] <diddledan> a surface within a surface
[15:14] <daftykins> smooth my posterior
[15:15] <diddledan> that typecover looks much friendlier to the fingers
[15:16] <diddledan> the trackpad on the s3 typecover was far too teeny
[15:17] <diddledan> sound glitch again
[15:18] <diddledan> I really like the idea of allowing my niece and nephew the ability to use a locked-down account which is totally isolated from my normal day-to-day stuff
[15:18] <daftykins> you still won't get it back ;)
[15:18] <diddledan> windows hello would be awesome for them
[15:18] <diddledan> good point
[15:18] <diddledan> MINE!
[15:19] <daftykins> i still don't enjoy biometrics in devices
[15:19] <daftykins> what if i settle my hand there and get my prints lifted! :)
[15:19] <diddledan> I want one of these
[15:19] <daftykins> i think it's meant to be silver/grey but looks pink in the light
[15:20] <daftykins> $899, i3, 4GB, 128GB :P
[15:20] <diddledan> another?
[15:20] <daftykins> zomg
[15:21] <diddledan> :-o
[15:21] <diddledan> the leaks didn't know about this one
[15:21] <daftykins> that hinge looks weird
[15:21] <diddledan> I think it might fold back
[15:22] <diddledan> nope, just a funky hinge
[15:22] <diddledan> looks shiny
[15:25] <diddledan> 12 hour flattery?
[15:26] <daftykins> any planet, bold claim!
[15:27] <diddledan> any known planet
[15:28] <diddledan> ooh
[15:28] <diddledan> same dock
[15:28] <diddledan> that's a good plan
[15:28] <diddledan> holy poo that was fast
[15:29] <daftykins> 300MB/sec is actually quite slow for a PCI-E SSD, i didn't spot whether that was USB attached the external device though
[15:32] <daftykins> yee-ouch
[15:32] <diddledan> joe belfiore says there's more
[15:32] <daftykins> O_O
[15:34] <diddledan> what?
[15:34] <daftykins> haha
[15:34] <daftykins> had a feeling that was coming
[15:34] <diddledan> I just exclaimed out loud
[15:34] <diddledan> standing ovulation!
[15:36] <diddledan> lol - over time
[15:36] <daftykins> haha breakin' the rules
[15:41] <diddledan> aah the big honcho
[15:42] <diddledan> I like that he took a back seat
[15:43] <diddledan> 110meeeleon is impressive in 10 weeks
[15:43] <daftykins> did you notice the comment about knowing users are using the netflix app over visiting the site?
[15:44] <daftykins> speaks of the data reports sending back ;)
[15:44] <diddledan> yup
[15:53] <daftykins> well there y'go
[15:53] <daftykins> i used the Edge browser to watch that with funky HLS
[16:20] <diddledan> the surfacebook starts at $1299 for 128GB/8GB and goes up to $2699 for 512GB/16GB
[16:20] <daftykins> ouch!
[16:21] <diddledan> that 1299 should be 1499
[16:21] <diddledan> I mistoped
[16:21] <daftykins> reckon Linux'll run well? ;)
[16:21] <diddledan> lol
[16:21] <daftykins> *detach base*
[16:21] <daftykins> *panic!*
[16:21] <diddledan> yey for kernel panics
[16:21] <daftykins> kinda strikes me as being optimus but-even-worse
[16:22] <diddledan> there's only the top-end model that comes with 16GB of rams :-(
[16:22] <diddledan> so you need to stump-up the full whack for a reasonable amount of memory
[16:25] <daftykins> this is what saddens me about those Dell XPS 13s, being constrained by what other choices you make to improve some components
[16:25] <daftykins> and 8GB being the max in that thing
[16:36]  * popey notes he's been yanking linux computers out of docking stations for _years_
[16:36] <popey> and not triggered kernel panics
[16:37] <popey> bet those are funky USB3 ones which don't work though :S
[16:39] <daftykins> i might've been following wrong but i thought the nvidia chip was in the base with the keyboard
[16:40] <diddledan> yeah the nvidia chip is in the keyboard which can be detached from the main pc
[16:40] <daftykins> mmm so it'd have to be a bit beefier than USB between, which is what had me thinking it'd be more of a challenge
[16:41] <diddledan> it'll be a pci-style connection like thunderbolt
[16:41] <daftykins> android M dev images up for the Nexus 5 and so on o0
[16:41] <daftykins> newly patched build ending in 'T' for my old Nexus 4 too
[16:42] <daftykins> nth libstagefright fix ;)
[16:42] <diddledan> oh dear :-( googley play-doh just tweeted that there's a new twiglet book out
[16:43] <diddledan> que tweens scrambling to get every last copy
[16:43] <diddledan> cue**
[16:44] <daftykins> i just put my new set of 19 books on the shelf :D
[16:44] <daftykins> retrieved the bookmark from where the cat hid it
[16:44] <diddledan> \o/
[16:44] <diddledan> although I'm not sure that hide-the-bookmark is appropriate for a family-friendly environment
[16:45] <diddledan> euphemisms ftw!
[16:46] <diddledan> why do I always read EMEA as Enema?
[16:46] <diddledan> apparently Adobe have an enema
[16:57] <daftykins> of the state?
[19:40] <diddledan> arriving tomorrow: sudo bash -c "iptables -D INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -i tun0 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -s 89.151.124.104/29 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -s 89.151.106.192/28 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -s 178.236.158.192/27 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -s 89.151.87.8/29 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5666 -
[19:40] <diddledan> erm
[19:41] <diddledan> yeah that was a bad paste
[19:41] <diddledan> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00Y2JYZOC
[21:41] <dogmatic69_> Hi all
[21:42] <dogmatic69_> anyone had luck doing a remote session to ubuntu?
[21:42] <dogmatic69_> apparently got to use another desktop manager? xfce
[21:43] <brobostigon> remote session? X-redirction or something like vnc?
[21:44] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[21:44] <dogmatic69_> brobostigon: well just using windows remote for example to connect to home pc
[21:45] <dogmatic69_> I have it working with xfce, set in .xsession, but some things are annoying. eg: chrome is open on my actual pc, so I cant open chrome.
[21:45] <dogmatic69_> well, I can but it opens on my main desktop, and not the remote connection :/
[21:45] <brobostigon> well, there are many possibilies, we need to narrow it down abit,
[21:46] <dogmatic69_> 14.10 iirc
[21:46] <brobostigon> also, i have only used ssh redirection, no X-redirection or otherwise.
[21:47] <dogmatic69> ssh redirection is?
[21:48] <brobostigon> example, redirection traffic over and ssh connection, so my machine at home thinks its connected to my server directly rather than via the internet inbetween, ie like a vpn etc.
[21:48] <dogmatic69> sure thing. but I want GUI and not just terminal
[21:49] <dogmatic69> I have seen there is ways to do it over ssh also, but need to get it working properly first :)
[21:49] <brobostigon> as i said, there are different ways, we need more information as to the method.
[21:49] <dogmatic69> ok, I installed xrdp locally
[21:49] <dogmatic69> and then using windows remote desktop to connect
[21:49] <brobostigon> rdp, ok.
[21:50] <dogmatic69> got my router forwarding some random port to local:rdp port
[21:50] <dogmatic69> I dont mind changing if there is something better than xrdp
[21:51] <dogmatic69> It is just from tutorials on the web I followed
[21:51] <dogmatic69> From what I have read, Unity just cant do remote desktop
[22:12] <daftykins> i hope not 14.10, that's been EOL a while ;)
[22:15] <dogmatic69> daftykins: I upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10 and it almost killed everything. not been brave enough to do a upgrade again...
[22:15] <daftykins> :S
[22:15] <directhex> isn't 14.10 EOL?
[22:16] <dogmatic69> I really need a new ssd and install from clean.. been running this since 10, loads of updates...
[22:16] <daftykins> since about July?
[22:16] <directhex> yes, as of july
[22:16] <directhex> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-July/000197.html
[22:16] <dogmatic69> might checkout gnome3
[22:17] <dogmatic69> maybe rdp works with that...
[22:17] <directhex> i use rdp fine
[22:19] <directhex> using xfreerdp. rdesktop doesn't support ssl
[22:37] <SupaYoshi> Hi!
[22:37] <SupaYoshi> I have an offtopic question relating ISP's in the UK (Talk Talk or Plus Net) and I'd like to know what channel I'd have to go too
[22:43] <daftykins> just ask
[23:32] <m0nkey_> I think theres a channel on Dalnet or QuakeNet, something in relation to ThinkBoardband. I don't recall, it's been a while.