| aeden__d | tried ZNC once again. I think I'm just going to keep things simple | 00:19 |
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| average_guy | ok, Unit193 I set up some SASL today, I know I've done it before several times. I will speak up if I hit any bumps | 11:14 |
| average_guy | security is kinda lost on me though, I am far more of a danger to my system then anyone else :P | 11:14 |
| average_guy | ok, generating the cert/key is done. My problem is that the client is on a different machine | 11:59 |
| average_guy | I tried simply moving them across the network but I can't load em, quassel crashes | 12:01 |
| aedend | Finally got znc working properly! | 12:28 |
| aedend | On my iPhone atm and everything works as advertised | 12:29 |
| average_guy | think I've got it now | 12:33 |
| cyberanger | an iPhone working as advertised......Is today April Fools | 12:53 |
| cyberanger | ? | 12:53 |
| cyberanger | I admit that was a horrible joke, but I shamefully stand by it | 12:54 |
| average_guy | I was just reading about Apple's deplorable security. I guess I didn't realize it was a problem for tham | 12:55 |
| cyberanger | Physical security is measured by the size of your padlock, but forget the security cameras and lights and razor wire on top of the fence, and somebody'll climb over instead | 12:58 |
| cyberanger | and if you do all that, they still might be brazen enough to drive a truck through it instead | 12:58 |
| average_guy | yeah, or dig a tunnel | 12:58 |
| cyberanger | Every other kind of security is the same way, threat mitigation | 12:58 |
| cyberanger | Make it so hard, the storage units across the street look easier to break into | 12:59 |
| aedend | I might have spoken too soon. Seems it's not displaying the buffer after I disconnect and reconnect | 13:00 |
| cyberanger | aedend: that could just be a settings issue though | 13:00 |
| average_guy | you WERE here aedend, idle | 13:00 |
| cyberanger | I worked for a VoIP company when I was interviewed for my InfoSec job, I was asked something like, name asecurity issue you dealt with at VoIP company | 13:01 |
| aedend | Well, it does keep the buffer, but only from the last connection. The other channels show everything from this morning though | 13:01 |
| cyberanger | I told them we had a fairly large client who either shared or leaked their credentials or set them way too easily | 13:02 |
| cyberanger | The follow up question was "How did you fix it?" and my reply was priceless (and sadly true) I said client wanted us to block all non-us IP's from their PBX | 13:03 |
| aedend | I.e I don't see in the buffer where I posted it working on my iPhone | 13:03 |
| cyberanger | I said it nervously and emphasised that It wasn't my decision, just following my orders, Everyone laughed and could tell from other parts of the conversation that I understood things | 13:04 |
| cyberanger | point is, security is always a joke, it's just finding the biggest joker first | 13:04 |
| cyberanger | aedend: what version is your znc software? | 13:05 |
| aedend | The loudest one in the room is usually the weakest one in the room... Security :) | 13:05 |
| cyberanger | </rant> | 13:05 |
| average_guy | so rather than fix the security, try to block everyone that might test it eh? | 13:05 |
| cyberanger | aedend: lol, yeah | 13:05 |
| aedend | cyberanger: I built from source latest from znc.in | 13:05 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: consider how many bad US IP's there are, and yeah, bad joke | 13:06 |
| cyberanger | that was the idea | 13:06 |
| cyberanger | aedend: ah, hrm... | 13:06 |
| cyberanger | wonder if the debian build has some defaults the source lacks | 13:06 |
| cyberanger | It nearly made their system unstable due to the size of the rule list | 13:07 |
| cyberanger | netfilter (the kernel part of iptables) nearly dragged the rest of the kernel into a panic | 13:08 |
| cyberanger | Ubik: might remember bits of that ^^^ | 13:08 |
| aedend | cyberanger: I built from source because znc info said some of the dependencies in in unbuntu build might be deprecated | 13:09 |
| aedend | It works on my computer at home. Disconnected last night and everything showed up this morning | 13:10 |
| aedend | I think there is a setting that clears the buffer after it's been loaded the first time. | 13:10 |
| aedend | cyberanger: in regards to your iPhone comment... It works great and I would never go back to android :) | 13:16 |
| aedend | average_guy: i _would_ read about androids deplorable security, but I don't have a year of non stop reading to dedicate to that :D | 13:18 |
| average_guy | I read android is the most secure atm actually aedend | 13:25 |
| average_guy | https://plus.google.com/+ScottWilsonLovesYou/posts/4o7X71zrMZY | 13:25 |
| average_guy | I take it all with a grain of salt though | 13:25 |
| average_guy | I am biased against Apple mostly because my folks worked for IBM so I've always has computers but they were never Apples | 13:27 |
| wrst | aedend: iPhones do work well, I just get bored with them after a while | 13:29 |
| cyberanger | iPhone is probally easier to do an audit on, less models and such | 13:41 |
| cyberanger | but I'm sure Android gets more code review | 13:41 |
| cyberanger | and then even with that, look at how long heartbleed existed prior to discovery | 13:42 |
| wrst | just from a user view I think it really depends on personality type, I can fit either mold | 13:45 |
| wrst | I like customization and I also like a really good solid factory setup | 13:45 |
| aedend | I've used both and I still have my old android. There's pros and cons to both, things I like with one vs the other. | 14:02 |
| wrst | aedend: modern android, I think is just as easy to use and as stable really that is if you are using stock | 14:04 |
| aedend | The iPhone for me fits, I like customizing and exploring but I can get caught up in it. With the iPhone I don't mind being limited, it keeps me from being distracted ;) | 14:04 |
| wrst | throw touchwiz and all of that on top and then you have a mess | 14:04 |
| wrst | I really don't customize stock, I'm using a galaxy s5 now and I have had to customize it to get it to be like stock | 14:05 |
| aedend | To be honest, I've considered buying a flip phone. All I really need is a way to talk and text. And I don't text often anyway | 14:06 |
| wrst | I didn't reallized just how locked the bootloader is on this S5 or I would not have bought it, I had intention of putting an AOSP ROM on it | 14:12 |
| cyberanger | wrst: is it? the s6 wasn't so bad | 14:13 |
| cyberanger | but the Nexus 6 was simple | 14:13 |
| wrst | cyberanger: its the AT&T model | 14:13 |
| wrst | I thought about the Nexus 6 but I just don't want something that large | 14:14 |
| wrst | or at least I haven't seen anything on XDA, I'm running a rooted touchwiz ROM and having to bypass the bootloader to flash, works well, but is a mess | 14:16 |
| netritious | good morning | 15:19 |
| wrst | good morning netritious | 15:36 |
| wrst | cyberanger: I was looking at the Nexus 5x also but no qi charging kinda ticks me off | 15:36 |
| cyberanger | Yeah, I'm not really impressed with the current releases at the moment | 15:39 |
| cyberanger | but I'm thinking of giving Project Fi another try, and that Might mean the Nexus 5x down the road | 15:40 |
| netritious | howdy wrst, cyberanger | 15:47 |
| wrst | how are you doing netritious | 15:47 |
| wrst | and I know wireless charging seems pretty insignificant but I really like it | 15:47 |
| wrst | so someone will eventually unlock the bootloader on this S5 I'm using and I have a wireless receiver stuck in it already | 15:48 |
| cyberanger | Hey netritious | 15:48 |
| netritious | not to shabby wrst. started new job as an admin/dev. | 15:51 |
| netritious | oh wow, Happy Birthday song is now public domain | 15:58 |
| netritious | https://goo.gl/IoJ8FH | 16:01 |
| cyberanger | What took so long, oh yeah, our copyright law stinks | 16:03 |
| netritious | yup | 16:03 |
| netritious | my wife just texted "if Trump is elected we are moving to Canada" | 16:05 |
| cyberanger | I've said the same for carly fiorina | 16:06 |
| cyberanger | Granted, I don't like any option, all lemons | 16:06 |
| netritious | yeah, read an article recently citing a study that concluded 'merica is an oligarchy now. | 16:08 |
| netritious | 80% of legislation passed is in direct conflict with what the people want | 16:08 |
| netritious | something like that...will have to find the source | 16:09 |
| cyberanger | I'd bet it was that way under Regan, meaning, my whole life | 16:14 |
| netritious | so who has tried windows 10? lol | 16:29 |
| average_guy | It really is an oligarchy, partys have become an illusion. Obama comes off as a champion of the people with obamacare but insurance are the real winners | 16:38 |
| average_guy | I'm on Window 10 now | 16:39 |
| average_guy | *insurance companies | 16:40 |
| average_guy | I really like Windows 10 also I like microsoft's handling of user accounts. I can give my 8yr old a Microsoft account and it sees her as an 8yr old and adjusts her content accordingly. Google has nothing like this. | 16:43 |
| aedend | Obama will most likely run for a third term... | 18:18 |
| wrst | netritious: congrats on the new job! | 18:19 |
| aedend | Are the public logs for channels in freenode updated in real time? | 18:26 |
| netritious | wrst: thanks! | 18:44 |
| netritious | average_guy: so do you have any complaints about windows 10? seems all I ever read online about it... | 18:44 |
| netritious | aedend: I have no idea | 18:44 |
| average_guy | No netritious, I have been loving it. It ran a bit slow at first but subsequent updates have fixed that. I am actually looking forward to a windows10 phone | 18:59 |
| average_guy | convergence is the big thing for everyone, and I don't care for Ubuntu's vision | 19:01 |
| netritious | average_guy: i'd like to see it all converge...windows, linux, unix, et al | 19:03 |
| netritious | currently I am moving all my systems to ubuntu and running workstation/esxi for a few apps I need that only run on windows. | 19:07 |
| average_guy | Elder Scrolls Online make me go back to Windows. I didn't intend to switch everything over, but I really am liking it. I still have an Ubuntu server to get my nerd fix on. | 19:11 |
| netritious | see, that is something I've been struggling with... | 19:13 |
| netritious | UT4 is coming out, and despite everyone telling me previous versions of UT run great on linux, I've never had such luck heh | 19:14 |
| netritious | tbh I'm thinking I might be getting to old for gaming anyways, but daughter just turned 13 and has been dying to play UT since she was 5 lol | 19:15 |
| netritious | full disclosure: haven't gamed in almost three years | 19:16 |
| average_guy | I don't think I will ever stop gaming, I'm almost 40 | 19:19 |
| netritious | i'm still a gamer at heart, but only one series I'm still fond of -- UT | 19:28 |
| netritious | at one point in time I couldn't find my UT2004 cd key and played UT2004 demo for idk 2-3 years lol | 19:30 |
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| aedend | netritious, average_guy I haven't gamed in some time. Just recently I got back into it. I'm also pushing the age of (I should be doing something more productive) lol | 22:27 |
| aedend | I have a 14 yo daughter who loves zelda. We have all the games from nes to gamecube. I bought a wiiU jsut so we would have the latest release. If it ever arrives... | 22:30 |
| aedend | When she was 10 I downloaded the original Zelda so she could see what I was playing at her age. She thought that was pretty neat | 22:31 |
| average_guy | I still like the first one aedend, in fact, now I gotta go find an emulator... | 23:13 |
| average_guy | my lil one is super into minecraft | 23:14 |
| aedend | average_guy, I cheated a little bit. We have a an original wii so I downloaded all the games | 23:28 |
| aedend | I was late to work the fist time I started playing. I stayed up playing Zelda II late into the night | 23:29 |
| aedend | not many people liked that one, but it was my favorite until Twilight Princess came on gamecube | 23:31 |
| average_guy | I liked pt2, yer right though, is was not a big hit | 23:37 |
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