[00:03] <gp5st> is it possible to install nagios3 without install apache in 14.04?
[00:06] <linos> how can I delete file in another directory if I'm lets say in a base directory
[00:07] <k1l> linos: rm works with path. like: rm /path/to/file
[00:07] <gp5st> linos: rm accepts absolute pats (as well as the relative one's you're used to)
 what about if there are multiple files?
[00:07] <gp5st> linos: spaces!
[00:08] <gp5st> you can put a space between each file (or directory) you'd like to remove
[00:08] <imthenachoman> does ubuntu have any help files on how to create startup scripts?
[00:08] <gp5st> imthenachoman: what type of init script?
[00:09] <gp5st> the newest ubuntu uses systemd, so you'd want to look for how to write service files for systemd
[00:09] <linos> gp5st: what about removing multiple files?
[00:09] <gp5st> older versions used upstart
[00:09] <imthenachoman> gp5st: thanks. i'll check systemd
[00:09] <k1l> linos: if they are named similar you can use wildcards or regexp.
[00:09] <imthenachoman> gp5st: i just need to write this script to be ubuntu friendly : http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=79262
[00:09] <gp5st> and all versions still support sysvinit scripts, but are not recommended
[00:09] <gp5st> linos: spaces between them, like I said
[00:10] <gp5st> rm /path/to/file1 /second/path/file2
[00:10] <gp5st> you can use globs like you're probably used to rm /path/to/*.files
[00:10] <gp5st> but be _very_ careful to make sure there aren't spurious spaces:)
[00:11] <linos> gp5st: example rm -rf /some/path/dir/WhatDoIputHereToDeleteAllFiles
[00:12] <k1l> linos: all files?
[00:12] <gp5st> linos: * will match all files, so /path/to/* will expand to all the files in /path/to/
[00:12] <linos> gp5st: that is what I've been trying, but the files are not being deleted
[00:12] <gp5st> (so the rm command will actually see all the files in /path/to/ separated by spaced and with absolute paths)
[00:13] <gp5st> linos: are any errors being given
[00:13] <linos> nope
[00:13] <k1l> linos: what files and folder are we talking about?
[00:13] <linos> gp5st: it works when I'm local
[00:13] <gp5st> ls -la /path/to/ shows files after running rm -rf /path/to/*?
[00:14] <gp5st> do you have write permission on /path/to?
[00:14] <linos> a directory that I created with files in it.
[00:14] <gp5st> try the -v switch for rm
[00:17] <utu8o> is there are good linux app that fully utilizes a tablet with pen?
[00:17] <R1l3y> hi
[00:18] <maddawg4> ppl still have tablets with pens ?
[00:18] <maddawg4> lol
[00:19] <maddawg4> did you lose your fingers?
[00:21] <imthenachoman> gp5st: if i am using 14.04 lts i should use init scripts?
[00:21] <Ooboontoo> I forgot the password to sign into my main account, so I have to use the guest account. How do I retrieve my password?
[00:22] <OerHeks> !password
[00:23] <linos> gp5st: nothing happens
[00:23] <linos> gp5st: how can that be
[00:25] <linos> gp5st: the command can only be performed as root
[00:25] <linos> gp5st just figured it out
[00:26] <k1l> linos: in that case it should give an error that the file doesnt exist.
[00:26] <k1l> or it cant remove. due to file permissions
[00:32] <gp5st> linos: what was it?
[00:33] <Hudsonkem> I installed synfig studio from .deb, but its denied, I have been try change permition of synfig, but it doesnt, any ideas?
[00:34] <I-Needs_Help> hello, may I have help with my computer's partitions?
[00:34] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: what error do you get? and what command are you running?
[00:34] <linos> gp5st: I had to run sudo rm -r Path/to/dir/*
[00:35] <gp5st> linos: that's a relative path
[00:35] <gp5st> I-Needs_Help: don't ask to ask.
[00:35] <DChapman> I-Needs_Help: What's your question about partitions?
[00:35] <Hudsonkem> hudsonkem@Maki-chan:/usr/bin$ synfig
[00:35] <Hudsonkem> bash: /usr/bin/synfig: Permission denied
[00:35] <I-Needs_Help> i have some unallocated space and would like to use it
[00:36] <linos> gp5st: ok, how does that effect deleting files?
[00:36] <I-Needs_Help> there is little space left and i need all i can get
[00:36] <maddawg3> then use it I-Needs_Help
[00:36] <I-Needs_Help> use what?
[00:36] <maddawg3> the unallocated space
[00:36] <maddawg3> allocate it and use it
[00:36] <I-Needs_Help> how?
[00:36] <DChapman> Again, what's your question?
[00:36] <Hudsonkem> i tried change file permition -rwx-------- to -054 but it doesnt work
[00:37] <maddawg3> well you can either create it as a partition or if it's part of an existing disk you can increase the size
[00:37] <maddawg3> i.e. unallocated partition
[00:37] <gp5st> linos: it's not so much deleting it /path/to/file means the path from /, the root of the file system. path/to/file means, starting in the current directory, go to the dir `path` then `to` and there is `file`
[00:37] <I-Needs_Help> i would loke to increase the space of already existing (root) partition
[00:37] <maddawg3> if it's an unallocated partition then use GParted to extend it
[00:37] <DChapman> Note that changing the size of partitions can have unwanted side effects, such as losing data.
[00:37] <I-Needs_Help> ok i have gparted on my system
[00:37] <gp5st> linos: we thought you meant something else than you did when you originally ask
[00:37] <maddawg3> I-Needs_Help, then boot from a ubuntu live cd and open gparted
[00:37] <maddawg3> you cant do it from the running partition
[00:37] <I-Needs_Help> its already installed
[00:37] <maddawg3> you have to do it from a live cd
[00:38] <I-Needs_Help> ohhh
[00:38] <maddawg3> yes you cant do it while the system is running
[00:38] <DChapman> You can't resize a partition while it is mounted...
[00:38] <I-Needs_Help> ok
[00:38] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: for some reason it doesn't have the x perm set
[00:38] <linos> gp5st: ah ha.  Ok, I get it now
[00:38] <maddawg3> so boot a ubuntu disk and open gparted
[00:38] <maddawg3> it should be on the live cd as well
[00:38] <I-Needs_Help> yes i get it
[00:38] <maddawg3> then you can extend it
[00:38] <maddawg3> the GUI should make sense
[00:38] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: 700 means only the owner can execute the file. who is the owner
[00:39] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: also, that error can also happen if you have the wrong binary for your architecture
[00:39] <I-Needs_Help> but i do not have 1 will the .img file burn to a cd not a dvd because system only have cd drive (lol its kind of old)
[00:39] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: eg if you have an x64 bin on an x32 system
[00:39] <linos> gp5st:  could you send me that last description.  I cleared by window by accident
[00:40] <gp5st> linos: it's not so much deleting it /path/to/file means the path from /, the root of the file system. path/to/file means, starting in the current directory, go to the dir `path` then `to` and there is `file`
[00:40] <gp5st> that?
[00:40] <linos> gp5st: thank you very much
[00:40] <gp5st> I-Needs_Help: as long as the .img is small enough to fit on a CD it'll work
[00:40] <I-Needs_Help> ok ill try it
[00:41] <Hudsonkem> well, its says root is the owner
[00:41] <gp5st> linos: absolute vs relative paths are common in almost all software , not just rm too
[00:41] <Hudsonkem> i tried set +x executive to but doesnt work
[00:42] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: doesn't work is the most useless phrase in the english language. What did you do? What was the error?
[00:42] <Hudsonkem> have any problem get my user to it?
[00:42] <Hudsonkem> gp5st, i tried change permission but, for some reason nothing change
[00:42] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: still not helpful.
[00:43] <gp5st> it's owned by root, you need to be root or using sudo in order to edit the permissions on it
[00:43] <linos> gp5st:  now I stumble across another problem,  I'm trying to run a an executable using the mono command, so for example I would simply type 'mono nameofexecutable.exe'.  How can I run this from another directory, say path/to/dir/mono nameofexecutable.exe??
[00:43] <Hudsonkem> gp5st yes, but doesnt work kk
[00:44] <Hudsonkem> ofcourse i used sudo, im admin of system, but no file permission changes after tried it,
[00:44] <I-Needs_Help> the image is 3.7 gb and it will obviosly NOT fit on a cd, any other options?
[00:44] <gp5st> linos: same deal. don't start with a path if the file is beneath your current directory. / means that ti's the path from the top of the filesystem
[00:45] <Hudsonkem> "sudo chmod -054 synfig"
[00:45] <gp5st> I-Needs_Help: damnsmalllinux or knoppix?
[00:45] <I-Needs_Help> i have no idea. computer is running Ubuntu MATE 14.04
[00:45] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: why are you using -054?
[00:46] <gp5st> I-Needs_Help: no, I'm telling you I know those still fit on a CD and DSL is pretty small if you have a slow connection. You could use those as a boot disk and then go into their gparted
[00:47] <Hudsonkem> set own execute, and try set read and exe to members
[00:47] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: if it's 700, -054 won't change anything
[00:47] <I-Needs_Help> i have cox gigablast so internet is very fast. are you telling me to preform an internet startup?
[00:47] <Hudsonkem> so, i must get root user to change it?
[00:47] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: the - means to subtract those permissions
[00:48] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: if it's owned by root, you'd need to be root to change the permissions
[00:48] <Obituaryy> hi
[00:48] <linos> gp5st: I tried that, but I receive an error mono  not found.  it almost seems like it chops off the nameofexecutable.exe
[00:48] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: man chmod for more info. try chmod a+rx
[00:48] <linos> gp5st: I'm trying to build a shell script
[00:48] <Hudsonkem> oh ok, i thought sudo was enough, but why it become root file, if i just installed it?
[00:48] <gp5st> linos: can you paste the command and error?
[00:49] <gp5st> linos: does the path have a space in it?
[00:49] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: how did you install it? with sudo dpkg?
[00:49] <linos> gp5st: the path does not, but when I have to run the mono command there is a space between mono and the nameofexecutable.exe file
[00:49] <Hudsonkem> nope, used center of software
[00:49] <keviv> Any reasons host-side that a usb device won't show up under lsusb?
[00:50] <gp5st> Also, you shouldn't have to be playing with the permissions. Like I said -054 means remove read and execute from group and read from other
[00:50] <gp5st> linos: yeah
[00:50] <linos> for example 'mono nameofexecutable.exe'
[00:50] <gp5st> linos: that only works if the exe is in the same directory
[00:50] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: did it make you enter your password?
[00:51] <gp5st> keviv: is the device on? does the device work on other computers (or on this computer)?
[00:51] <linos> gp5st: if I'm at the parent directory and type 'mono nameofexecutable.exe', it works fine
[00:52] <keviv> gp5st: yeah it's definitely on, it shows as charging. I'll try it on another computer now
[00:52] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: regardless I would "sudo chmod 555 /path/to/program" to set r and x for all users
[00:52] <gp5st> keviv: some phones will charge even if they're not "on"
[00:52] <Hudsonkem> ok let me try it
[00:54] <itai> hello
[00:54] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: also try "file /path/to/executable" to make sure it's a compatible executable format
[00:56] <Hudsonkem> ok i must relogg to see some effects on whisker menu
[00:56] <itai> im new to linux and was wondering why after installing and extracting something, i cant open it
[00:56] <gp5st> itai: open how?
[00:57] <keviv> gp5st: oh yeah, but I meant it was definitely on, and also showing as charging
[00:57] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: can you excute it from the command line?
[00:57] <keviv> gp5st: I think it might be as stupid as the cable I was using might be charge-only
[00:57] <itai> like i downloaded utorrent and extracted and for some reason i cant run it
[00:57] <itai> is what i meant
[00:58] <gp5st> itai: how have you tried to run it? did you download it from their website or via apt-get/the software center?
[00:58] <keviv> gp5st: yup, tried a different cable, and now it works haha
[00:58] <shleezy> is there an easy way of fixing my mbr? i have win7 on another drive but it doesn't pick it up on the boot menu
[00:58] <itai> their website
[00:59] <gp5st> how have you tried to run it?
[00:59] <wileee> shleezy, You've run sudo update-grub ?
[01:00] <itai> gp5s: idk now that im looking back at it theres nothing to run haha. i was double clicking the UTserver
[01:02] <shleezy> wileee: haven't tried that, will try.
[01:03] <wileee> grub looks for other OS's with the os=prober with an update
[01:03] <wileee> os-prober* doh
[01:04] <gp5st> itai: can you open a terminal and go to the directory the executable is in?
[01:08] <itai> ok i think im there
[01:12] <gp5st> itai: please don't pm
[01:12] <AdolfH> hallo
[01:12] <gp5st> itai: ok, if you ls -la do you see the executable?
[01:12] <AdolfH> nein
[01:13] <lulz> yo AdolfH
[01:13] <Hudsonkem> ok i reinstalled and change again the permissions and work
[01:13] <Hudsonkem> thx gp5st
[01:13] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: the software equiv of turning it off and back on :)
[01:13] <gp5st> Hudsonkem: glad it works
[01:14] <linos> ok, I'm not having much luck.  But maybe someone can set me correct.  I have a an exe file in a directory in linux and would like to run it from another directory.  Is this possible?
[01:14] <Hudsonkem> :) i think its kinda bug :V
[01:15] <gp5st> linos: yes, but you need to know where it is! Where is the executable?
[01:15] <axk4545> try which <program name here>
[01:16] <psusi> linos, do you mean a windows .exe file, or a linux binary?  if it's a linux binary, you just specify the full or relative path if the directory it is in isn't already on your PATH
[01:16] <linos> gp5st: I do know where it is, but I keep getting the following error message... No such file or directory
[01:16] <linos> psusi: I'm running mono
[01:16] <axk4545> what command?
[01:16] <linos> psusi: Ubuntu
[01:16] <gp5st> linos: so, you know the name? is this something you compiled? did you download and unpack it? why do you think it exists?
[01:17] <gp5st> if you think it's in the current directory, try "find . -name NAMEOFTHEEXE"
[01:17] <AdolfH> lulz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKrLrhtZrLU
[01:17] <linos> gp5st: I created the file myself.  its 'Foo.exe'
[01:17] <gp5st> itai: so when you open your terminal it'll dump you in your home directory. If you downloaded it into Downloads, cd Downloads
[01:18] <psusi> linos, and what command did you use?
[01:18] <linos> psusi: mono Foo.exe
[01:18] <psusi> I *think* that as long as you have mono installed and the exe is set to execute permission, you can just run it like any other binary, but I'm not sure
[01:18] <gp5st> psusi: you don't need the exe perm
[01:18] <Hudsonkem> linos try, >>whereis <name of program>
[01:19] <gp5st> linos: how did you create it?
[01:19] <axk4545> AdolfHitlr, speaking of installing Ubuntu, I saw something on efnet that ubuntu is an old african word meaning i don't know how to configure debian.
[01:19] <itai> gp5st: Im in the directory. but there is no executable inthere.
[01:19] <linos> psusi: this command works fine when I run it from the directory it resides under.  So for example when I cd the directory and run mono Foo.exe is works fine
[01:20] <AdolfHitlr> i thought it was an old african word meaning i'm too stupid to know how to use arch
[01:20] <linos> Hudsonkem: it says Foo:
[01:20] <gp5st> itai: what is in it? which dir are you in?
[01:20] <axk4545> Similar idea. AdolfHitlr, I personally use Fedora.
[01:20] <AdolfHitlr> i personally use windows
[01:20] <linos> gp5st: I built it with monodevelop
[01:20] <gp5st> linos: ok, so you do know where the executable is?
[01:21] <linos> gp5st: yes
[01:21] <gp5st> ok, where is it?
[01:21] <apollonovich> I'm trying to set up machines to fetch ssh public keys from ldap, but the ssh-ldap package I see in all the posts about it appears no longer to exist?  Am I missing something obvious?
[01:21] <linos> it is located under Foo/bin/Debug/Foo.exe
[01:22] <gp5st> linos: wich dir is the Foo folder in?
[01:23] <gp5st> linos: when you're in a folder, you can run pwd to show the absolute path of the current directory, just fyi
[01:23] <linos> gp5st: under linos.  so for example my ubuntu dir is home/linos/Foo/bin/Debug
[01:24] <gp5st> do you mean /home/linos as the home dir (note the leading /!)
[01:24] <linos> gp5st: yes
[01:24] <gp5st> ok, so if you "cd $HOME" (or "cd" or "cd ~")
[01:25] <gp5st> and you "ls -l Foo/bin/Debug/Foo.exe" what happens?
[01:27] <linos> gp5st: it prints our the -rwxrwxr-x and the file dir/path/Foo.exe
[01:27] <linos> gp5st its there
[01:27] <gp5st> itai: what do you sww when you ls -la in the dir you think the executable should be in?
[01:28] <gp5st> and if you replace ls -l with mono?
[01:28] <linos> gp5st: you are a piece of work.  Beautiful!
[01:29] <linos> gp5st: IT WORKS! YaY
[01:29] <Hudsonkem> congrats
[01:29] <linos> gp5st:  thank you very much
[01:29] <gp5st> linos: to hammer home the point, try it with /home/linos/Foo/bin/Debug/Foo.exe
[01:30] <lying_cake> apt-get wants me to run autoremove to remove 151 packages. Am I right in assuming that is in error?
[01:30] <gp5st> (or whatever your home dir is) that will run regardless of the dir you're in, but the one that doesn't start with a / will only work in your home dir
[01:30] <gp5st> try both in your home dir
[01:30] <gp5st> and then "cd Documents" or w/e and then try both
[01:31] <theskepticalparr> I don't understand this...
[01:31] <theskepticalparr> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:31] <theskepticalparr> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:31] <theskepticalparr> What does that mean?
[01:32] <k1l> theskepticalparr: you can only open one program that uses the package manager
[01:32] <thewingman> But I never had that issue before.
[01:32] <k1l> like close the software center when you run apt-get in terminal.  and when you apt-get in terminal use sudo
[01:33] <thewingman> Ooooooohhhhhhh...
[01:33] <thewingman> Software Updater is running.
[01:33] <thewingman> Is that why?
[01:33] <gp5st> is lsof installed by default? you could lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock to see the other process
[01:33] <gp5st> oh, nvm
[01:33] <k1l> thewingman: yes
[01:33] <linos> gp5st: it says no such file or directory.  should I put mono in front of it all?
[01:33] <thewingman> Got it.
[01:33] <thewingman> Then now I know why I never had the issue before.
[01:33] <lying_cake> apt-get is pushing me to remove a ton of packages with auto-remove (over 150). Am I right in assuming that is an error?
[01:34] <gp5st> linos: all of what? specifics are important "mono /home/linos/Foo/bin/Debug/Foo.exe" will work regardless of the dir you're in. "mono Foo/bin/Debug/Foo.exe" will only work in your homedir
[01:34] <Hudsonkem> lying_cake, did u see what r tobe removed?
[01:35] <lying_cake> lots of stuff. I'm not really sure what's significant and what isn't. Some stuff pertaining to wine, libmono, etc..
[01:35] <lying_cake> I can drop it into pastebin if anyone is willing to look at it
[01:36] <Hudsonkem> lying_cake yeap
[01:36] <linos> gp5st:  yes that is what I'm seeing on my side
[01:37] <Hudsonkem> lying_cake, the warnings of autoremove, just says when u got unlinked packages, but let see it :)
[01:37] <lying_cake> http://pastebin.com/Aq7DyxMc Here goes...
[01:38] <gp5st> linos: ok, hope that helps understand absolute vs relative paths
[01:39] <linos> gp5st: thank you
[01:40] <Hudsonkem> lying_cake have u been removed wine?
[01:40] <lying_cake> hudsonkem: not recently. But i don't need it anymore. Are those all dependencies of wine?
[01:41] <Hudsonkem> lying_cake alot of these yes, u use x64 system?
[01:41] <lying_cake> hudsonkem: Yup.
[01:42] <Hudsonkem> so its okay
[01:42] <Hudsonkem> lying_cake take a copy of it to text file, just in case of disaster lol :P
[01:43] <linos> gp5st: I have a crazy question for you.  Is it possible for a script to open a new shell and execute a command in there?
[01:43] <Hudsonkem> lying_cake but I think its ok to execute "sudo apt-get autoremove" command
[01:43] <gp5st> linos: what do you mean "a new shell" and why do you want to do that
[01:43] <gp5st> linos: tech `` and $() open subprocesses
[01:43] <linos> gp5st: a terminal window
[01:44] <Hudsonkem> linos, yes
[01:44] <gp5st> linos: yeah, you can. what problem are you trying to solve?
[01:45] <linos> well, I have two exe that I'm trying to run and they cannot be running in the same instance of a terminal window.  I will need two, but I would like to do it with one script
[01:45] <tomek_> hi anyone can help?
[01:45] <gp5st> tomek_: don't ask to ask!
[01:45] <gp5st> linos: can you use & to send one command into the background?
[01:46] <lying_cake> hudsonkem: ran auto-remove. Computer is still functioning. Thanks :)
[01:46] <gp5st> (otherwise you start to be dependent on the terminal emulator or simply that someone has X (e.g. doing what you want won't work on an ssh connection unless you plan ahead)
[01:46] <linos> gp5st: I need to interact with both windows
[01:46] <Hudsonkem> lyink_cake lol, congrats
[01:48] <linos> gp5st: if there is a way I can open a new terminal window from the script and run a command that points to that terminal window, then I'm set
[01:48] <gp5st> linos: you could have a new window open. I would suggest you make 2 shell scripts or have your script run one command or the other based on an argument passed to it
[01:48] <gp5st> linos: you'd have to call out to the terminal emulator as a command and run it in the background
[01:48] <gp5st> which ties you to the emulator
[01:49] <linos> gp5st: how would I go about doing that?
[01:49] <gp5st> xterm is fairly common, but not pretty:p
[01:49] <psusi> linos, if you are in another directory then you need to specify the path to the one where the file actually is
[01:49] <gp5st> linos: try this "xterm xev"
[01:50] <imthenachoman> hey guys. i have a 2nd HD on my machine that is mounted at /this/that. the group of /this/that is plugdev and has 775. user1 is in plugdev and created folder /this/that/blah. now i want user2 to be able to create a file in /this/that/blah but i am getting permission denied
[01:50] <imthenachoman> the folder /this/that has thousands of files/folders so changing the permissions on all of them seems a bit rought
[01:51] <imthenachoman> its a samba share also. i'd love to make it so any files created on it, by anyone, are set such that anyone can read/write and if applicable execute
[01:51] <psusi> imthenachoman, chmod -R will recursively change permissions on all files and subdirectories of a given point
[01:51] <gp5st> imthenachoman: "ls -dl /this/that/blah"
[01:51] <imthenachoman> gp5st: what about that?
[01:52] <Hudsonkem> imthenachoman, "sudo chown <user tobe owner> <directory way>"
[01:52] <tomek_> hello
[01:53] <tomek_> how to move buttons maximize minimize close from left to right?
[01:53] <Hudsonkem> imthenachoman, for example, "sudo chown imthenachoman /this/that"
[01:53] <imthenachoman> Hudsonkem: there are 10+ users. i basically want them to be able to read/write/execute any/all files in /this/that no matter who owns/creates them
[01:53] <Hudsonkem> tomek, what dist r u usin?
[01:54] <bewbz> Hello, does any one have experience with setting up eclipse and the various android packages?
[01:54] <tomek_> ubuntu 14041
[01:54] <Hudsonkem> imthenachoman, just turn it free, "sudo chmod 777 /this/that"
[01:55] <tomek_> Hudsonnkem can u help me?
[01:55] <imthenachoman> Hudsonkem: but that will only do for /this/that, what about all files in sub dir?
[01:55] <Hudsonkem> tomek_ yes
[01:55] <tomek_> how to move this buttons
[01:55] <Hudsonkem> imthenachoman, u can make a group and set it to ur users
[01:56] <kpcyrd> hello. is there a channel for security updates?
[01:56] <imthenachoman> so set group of /this/that to    blah and then add all users to blah?
[01:56] <imthenachoman> Hudsonkem: cause right now /this/that is owned by plugdev and all users are in plugdev
[01:56] <imthenachoman> Hudsonkem: but they can only create/edit their own files
[01:56] <Hudsonkem> imthenachoman, np, set it to ur group and put user in the same group
[01:58] <Hudsonkem> imthenachoman as i said, just make it free, or put owner. and give permission free to other
[01:59] <imthenachoman> Hudsonkem: that will only work for the existing files, right? what will happen if user2 creates a new file?
[01:59] <Milijus> Anybody here running nginx on Ubuntu need some help
[02:00] <Hudsonkem> imthenachoman, np, u set ur partition as free, and everything there we be free too
[02:00] <kpcyrd> the version of opensmtpd currently packaged in ubuntu has exploitable security issues
[02:00] <kpcyrd> CVE request: https://marc.info/?l=oss-security&m=144405728407617&w=2
[02:00] <imthenachoman> Hudsonkem: but that won't work for new files a user creates. i've tried that
[02:00] <kpcyrd> https://www.qualys.com/2015/10/02/opensmtpd-audit-report.txt
[02:01] <Hudsonkem> imthenachoman, u wont set folder free, u must make the partition mount path free
[02:01]  * Nach0z curses his hilight list
[02:11] <Hudsonkem> imthenachoman, got it?
[02:13] <adh_> how the fuck is israel jewish land? that's like me going to your house and telling you that you're on my property because my indian ancestors lived where you're living
[02:18] <fathom> Howdy, I have a fresh install of ubuntu, but the screen keeps going blank when i am supposed to log in
[02:18] <neoncontrails> I'm having trouble consolidating what I'm trying to do into a google query, but there must be a simple answer to it...
[02:19] <neoncontrails> Can I use a local application to open a file on a server I'm ssh'ed into? How?
[02:20] <k1l> neoncontrails: do you mean x forward (ssh -X) or mean like using samba for the file or such?
[02:20] <TJ-> !info sshfs | neoncontrails SSH File-system can do so (not via an existing interactive SSH session though)
[02:20] <k1l> fathom: is the right driver installed?
[02:20] <neoncontrails> kil: Forgive me. I'm too inexperienced with Unix to understand your question :)
[02:21] <k1l> neoncontrails: with ssh -X you can start a program on a server but the window comes up on your local system.  but it sounds more like you want sshfs
[02:21] <fathom> AMD
[02:21] <fathom> FGLRX
[02:22] <fathom> I have an AMD APU plus a 240 r7 graphics card
[02:22] <k1l> fathom: did you install the fglrx from the ubuntu repo?
[02:22] <fathom> Software and Updates
[02:23] <fathom> Whatever was there
[02:23] <fathom> Under additional drivers
[02:24] <neoncontrails> kil: possibly, yes. If I'm not mistaken, there's a dependency issue with ssh -X on macs I believe? Requires X11-compatible software I think?
[02:24] <neoncontrails> I could be completely wrong.
[02:24] <Hudsonkem> neoncontrails, unix is another one, here we use linux xD
[02:25] <neoncontrails> Hudsonkem: Gotcha. Heh, just out of curiosity is there a general unix community on IRC?
[02:25] <neoncontrails> I noticed #unix is dead
[02:26] <Hudsonkem> neoncontrails, sorry dont know :/
[02:29] <TJ-> neoncontrails: sshfs will do what you want; it allows you to mount a remote log-in directory heirachy on a local mount point
[02:29] <k1l> fathom: make sure the .Xauthority is not owned by root in your home
[02:30] <k1l> fathom: then look up if that card needs some special handling like nomodeset or such
[02:32] <neoncontrails> TJ-: thanks, I'll try to find a tutorial on this. Might be back with questions later :)
[02:33] <TJ-> neoncontrails: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[02:39] <Metatheon> hello?
[02:39] <mssbrg> Why don't people regular `apt` versus `apt-get` or `apt-cache`?
[02:39] <mssbrg> *use regular
[02:40] <Metatheon> dunno
[02:40] <k1l> mssbrg: because its too new.
[02:40] <TJ-> mssbrg: tradition, habit
[02:41] <mssbrg> Interesting. I myself have been using ubuntu for a few years and it just hadn't occured to me, I was definitely intrenched in habit of apt-get/apt-cache
[02:41] <Metatheon> how do i modify an ssid code for my own use?
[02:41] <mssbrg> but it seems apt is pretty good *shrug*
[02:41] <Metatheon> anyone?
[02:41] <phoskins> So I'm running a crouton chroot of ubuntu on a chromebook, and I accidentally used up all my disk space by installing texlive 2015. Oops. Is there a way I can delete it from the chrome console?
[02:41] <OerHeks> Metatheon, change it in your wifi router
[02:42] <Metatheon> is that in the network app?
[02:42] <TJ-> mssbrg: One reason is the output format of apt-{get,cache,file} are designed for scripts and therefore predictable, whereas apt is liable to change
[02:42] <k1l> mssbrg: apt got stable just one year ago, iirc. so before it was adviced to use apt-get. and since that still works and the old howtos are all out there that change takes some time
[02:43] <OerHeks> Metatheon, no, change the ssid in your wifi router first, then your client
[02:43] <Metatheon> oh gotcha, Not too possible, i cant connect to my university wifi
[02:44] <Metatheon> i looked it up and other people had the same problem
[02:44] <Metatheon> they said to run these-
[02:44] <Metatheon> cd /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections sudo touch SSID #SSID is the name of the profile, e.g. eduroam sudo nano SSID
[02:44] <Metatheon> and modify my ssid there
[02:45] <TJ-> Metatheon: that doesn't sound quite correct. "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/" is the directory where all the system-wide network connections are stored, in text files, one per connection
[02:45] <linos> what is the simplest way to run a execute a command that contains parameters within a script
[02:45] <mssbrg> k1l: is apt officially recommended then?
[02:46] <TJ-> Metatheon: But, the GUI provides a connection editor where the SSID/BSSID can be edited
[02:46] <k1l> mssbrg: standard tool for cli is still apt-get.
[02:47] <Metatheon> TJ, where is it?
[02:48] <mssbrg> k1l: hm, despite apt's 'stability'? not arguing, just seems odd.
[02:48] <TJ-> Metatheon: It should be accessed via the task-bar network icon. On Gnome-based systems the program is 'nmapplet'
[02:48] <Metatheon> TJ: thanks ill look at it
[02:48] <k1l> mssbrg: then propose it to replace apt-get :)
[02:50] <mssbrg> k1l: i think i'll just start using and enjoying it instead, seems easier :)
[02:50] <TJ-> mssbrg: 'apt' cannot do several popular tasks the other tools can
[02:54] <linos> Hello, how can I run a command within a script that has parameters?
[02:56] <TJ-> linos: your question is unclear. Do you mean: Within a shell script, how to run a command that takes parameters? If so simply: "[/path/to/]command param1 "param 2 with spaces" param3 "
[02:56] <linos> TJ-:the contrary
[02:57] <linos> I have a command inside the script that I'm running and it call an exe that take parameters
[02:57] <mssbrg> TJ-: i should have expected :) any examples?
[02:57] <TJ-> mssbrg: 'purge' --no-install-recommends
[02:58] <linos> TJ-: for example mono Foo/bin/Debug/Foo.exe -a bob -d 1000.00
[02:58] <linos> TJ-: tje parameters after Foo.exe are required
[02:58] <TJ-> linos: The commands in a script are written identically to how you'd write them on the shell command-line
[02:59] <mssbrg> TJ-: i'm actualy not familiar with purge, what man page should I read?
[02:59] <linos> TJ: I'm having he same problem when I try to run it manually inside a terminal window
[02:59] <TJ-> mssbrg: "man apt-get" (it purges package configuration files (e.g. from /etc/)
[02:59] <TJ-> linos: what is the exact error message you get?
[03:00] <linos> TJ-: the program runs, but without the args
[03:00] <mssbrg> linos: time to pastebin your script :)
[03:00] <netman87> hello. im looking for choise of text editor. so can someone help me little?
[03:01] <mssbrg> netman87: if you aren't sure, sublime text is very popular
[03:01] <TJ-> linos: That sounds like an issue with the program you're running. Are you sure it takes the arguments prefixed by a hyphen? If the program is originally from Windows it might take the '/' as the argument prefix.
[03:01] <linos> mssbrg: this is what I'm typing... mono Foo/bin/Debug/Foo.exe -a bob -d 1000.00
[03:01] <netman87> so X = graphical, no vi/vim, minimal or configurable layout (menu,buttons... i dont want them to be on way, line numbers, coloring php,perl,python,c,c++ and so on... main purpose will be programming
[03:01] <linos> TJ-: 100% sure
[03:02] <TJ-> linos: Best to check with the mono executable then; it probably isn't passing them to the sub-process
[03:02] <linos> TJ-: when I run the command from the Debug directory, it run perfectly.
[03:02] <netman87> used to use gedit on linux and notepad++ on windows
[03:02] <netman87> mssbrg, its not free :/ and it doesnt feel really too nice... maybe but atleast not before next month as im having money problems atm
[03:03] <genii> linos: That would seem to indicate that Foo.exe is doing something in the Current Working Directory
[03:03] <genii> ( like, calling a .dll or such )
[03:04] <linos> I just need to know how to correctly format the 'mono Foo/bin/Debug/Foo.exe -a bob -d 1000.00' command
[03:04] <linos> for example, would I need quotes or something else?
[03:04] <k1l> linos: we said all we could say with that unspecific info
[03:05] <netman87> anyone? text editor?
[03:05] <somsip> netman87: try #ubuntu-offtopic as this is not the channel to ask for recommendations
[03:05] <linos> ok thank you
[03:06] <netman87> somsip, thank you.
[03:09] <tomek_> hi who can help me ?
[03:09] <somsip> !ask | tomek_
[03:09] <tomek_> i need to move buttons from left to right
[03:10] <somsip> tomek_: you want the unity bar to appear on the right of the screen?
[03:10] <k1l> tomek_: see unity-tweak-tool
[03:10] <k1l> but iirc that is not possible on unity recently
[03:12] <NecroSyS> hello!
[03:15] <tomek_> i need to move buttons from left to right
[03:16] <NecroSyS> Voltando dos mortos!!!!
[03:22] <tedrex> hi,
[03:23] <tedrex> can I get some help?
[03:23] <somsip> !ask | tedrex
[03:24] <tedrex> I have accidentally removed date and time from panel, how can I get it back?
[03:25] <tomek_> i need to move buttons from left to right
[03:25] <bazhang> tomek_, try gnome-tweak-tool
[03:26] <tomek_> dont work
[03:26] <bazhang> tomek_, do you mean minimize expand close buttons
[03:27] <tomek_> yes
[03:27] <bazhang> tomek_, it works when I do it
[03:27] <tomek_> but how
[03:27] <bazhang> tomek_, did you check the settings for window behavior or not
[03:28] <MannyLNJ> How do I mount my phone on a ubuntu system?
[03:30] <Melite> How can I set a bluetooth speaker to be the default output via terminal?
[03:30] <Melite> I am using Ubuntu 14.04
[03:44] <ramzey> sup
[03:45] <Bashing-om> ramzey: U tell .
[03:45] <ramzey> :o
[03:46] <ramzey> im talking from a command line right now
[03:46] <cfhowlett> ramzey, ask your ubuntu question
[03:50] <ramzey> my question is
[03:50] <ramzey> why am i so 1337?
[03:50] <reisio> some people are born that way
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:50] <ramzey> that makes sense
[03:57] <qwebirc74229> easy to remember
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc74229: can we help you?
[03:59] <qwebirc74229> How does this work? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12694757/
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc74229: you trying to download ubuntu from torrent?
[04:00] <cfhowlett> qwebirc74229, it's a torrent link.  add it to your torrent client and it will download.
[04:01] <qwebirc74229> cfhowlett: Where can a magnet link be added to transmission?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> click on the link.  transmission should open
[04:02] <qwebirc74229> So it isn't going to work unless the torrent has a tracker already?
[04:02] <qwebirc74229> I was trying to figure out how to start using transmission locally for peer to peer transferrs without downloading a tracker.
[04:02] <cfhowlett> qwebirc74229, ubuntu magnet torrents have trackers.
[04:03] <qwebirc74229> cfhowlett: How is that set up I've created a torrent then shared the magnet locally over empathy and recall it not working.
[04:03] <qwebirc74229> It isnt much of a peer to peer when everything requires a central bank.
[04:04] <cfhowlett> qwebirc74229, I can't speak to your specific case.  the magnet links have never failed me but I have not attempted to share them.
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> !torrent | qwebirc74229
[04:06] <cfhowlett> qwebirc74229, I just copy pasted that link into FF.  Transmission popped up as expected.
[04:06] <reisio> it isn't much of a file sharing protocol without a central bank, though
[04:06] <qwebirc74229> MBP completely blew out Drone` as far as updates go.
[04:07] <cfhowlett> qwebirc74229, ???????????
[04:08] <qwebirc74229> I installed nvidia proprietary drivers and updated the package lists and nothing works as far as updates go and the desktop is broke.
[04:08] <qwebirc74229> It looks like it has a dependency system that completely blocks everything when nvidia driver is installed.
[04:09] <qwebirc74229> Then I rsynced the /usr/share to another partition and it gives a false disk full error.
[04:09] <NecroSyS> Alguem ja instalou o delphi xe7
[04:09] <qwebirc74229> With only about 50% of the part in use.
[04:09] <reisio> qwebirc74229: false?
[04:10] <cfhowlett> !es | NecroSyS
[04:10] <reisio> NecroSyS: /msg alis list *ubunt*br
[04:10] <reisio> NecroSyS: /msg alis list *ubunt*pt
[04:10] <qwebirc74229> df shows about 50% usage.
[04:10] <qwebirc74229> apt fails to install dpkg because it says there is no disk space on /usr/share
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc74229: there's no point to spit all lines out here
[04:10] <reisio> qwebirc74229: df -i?
[04:11] <NecroSyS>  /msg alis list *ubunt*pt
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc74229: start from the beginning, ubuntu version...whats happening
[04:11] <qwebirc74229> reisio: I can boot it up and check.
[04:11] <qwebirc74229> trusty
[04:12] <qwebirc74229> And the desktop is half broke and the package system will not install any updates.
[04:13] <qwebirc74229> startx works and then I can point an xterm to it from another tty
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | qwebirc74229
[04:14] <NecroSyS>  /list *ubunt*br
[04:15] <cfhowlett> !br | NecroSyS
[04:15] <RepThis1> Im trying to setup wake over internet and it seems to work on linux but the strange thing is when i multiboot to windows then shutdown and try to wake over internet nothing happens. So my question was in the process of setting up wake over internet do any of the commands i used affect the uefi bios in any way, i remember using something like dracut,grub2-mkconfig.
[04:16] <cfhowlett> RepThis1, nothing you did in ubuntu will effect windows.  Did you explicitly edit the bios?
[04:17] <NecroSyS> Sorry, it is that long ago that do not use irc
[04:17] <RepThis1> cfhowlett: isnt it safe to assume the bios settings are set correctly if i can wake the machineup if it was on linux prior?
[04:17] <qwebirc74229> The plan is to plug it into the cloud.
[04:18] <cfhowlett> RepThis1, one would think so, but I am completely out of my element on that issue.  perhaps #ubuntu-server can advise??
[04:19] <RepThis1> cfhowlett: i mean i would partially agree with you on the bios because there is no option in its firmware revision, odd though that it can still work.
[04:19] <RepThis1> cfhowlett: thx, i will have to check that channel out
[04:19] <cfhowlett> RepThis1, happy2help!
[04:23] <uny> is there any way I can go from ubuntu 15.04 to 14.04 LTS , i don't want to keep udating my system every while  ?
[04:24] <reisio> so don't
[04:25] <delt> Hello
[04:25] <Bashing-om> uny: Release 14.04 is the long term support release - support 'til April 2019 . To switch to 14.04 from 15.04 will require a fresh install of 14.04 .
[04:25] <delt> what packages do i need to compile stuff that uses GtkGLArea ?
[04:25] <uny> <Bashing-om : Oh  No
[04:26] <uny> Bashing-om: a fresh install ?
[04:26] <delt> (gtk3)
[04:27] <delt> just adding #include <gtkgl/gtkglarea.h> to the relevant .c file gives a ton of errors
[04:27] <Bashing-om> uny: Else; ya can upgrade to 15.10 soon, then when the next LTS is release up[grade to 16.04 ( April 2016) .
[04:27] <uny> Bashing-om :isn't there a way to downgrade ?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> uny, no.
[04:27] <genii> !downgrade
[04:28] <smacktalk> im having trouble getting my avermedia tv tuner usb stick to work.  How do i know if the system recognizes it?
[04:28] <uny>  Bashing-om ; does it effect my system if i stopped installing the updates i get ?
[04:29] <smacktalk> anyone know how to make hexchat have a longer scrollback?
[04:29] <Bashing-om> uny: Are you trolling ? You know that is not a wise thing to do .. Aways keep the system updated .
[04:32] <uny> Bashing-om : so i need a fresh install to get long support , and get rid of the annoying updates ?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> even LTS gets updates, uny.
[04:33] <wileee> smacktalk, settings-preferences-logging
[04:33] <uny> cfhowlett : so what is the difference basically then .?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> uny, LONG TERM support.   3 years.  not 9 months.
[04:34] <reisio> one encourages you to not update
[04:34] <reisio> for ages and ages
[04:34] <reisio> like a caveman :)
[04:35] <uny> cfhowlett ; means , it you just have to install updates for  3 years  without upgrade instead of 9 months ?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> correct
[04:35] <reisio> not that you ever _have to_ update
[04:36] <wileee> not that there's anything wrong with that
[04:36] <cfhowlett> you do realize those udpates are for the safety, security and functioning of your OS, right?  So if you don't care about security or functionality, feel free to disregard update advisorys.  WHEN you get breached or broken, do not ask for support.
[04:36] <qwebirc74229> Uptime, heres what I have now: ##networking,##programming,##hardware,##electronics What else can I add to the list for school kids?
[04:37] <reisio> as long as you don't complain about it, not a thing :)
[04:37] <uny> reisio : does the updates get released every week or so ?
[04:37] <reisio> qwebirc74229: school kids?
[04:37] <qwebirc74229> ticed learners
[04:38] <reisio> hope you're going to give them a lesson on what people are like online
[04:38] <reisio> ticed?
[04:38] <qwebirc74229> prentices
[04:38] <xfcemofo> ubuntu store is outdated
[04:38] <reisio> qwebirc74229: what age?
[04:39] <qwebirc74229> tobe ageless
[04:39] <reisio> never met an ageless kid before
[04:39] <Bashing-om> !latest | xfcemofo
[04:39] <cfhowlett> never met any ageless person
[04:40] <Uptime> qwebirc74229: ##security,##science,##music,##English etc :P
[04:41] <reisio> and of course ############spare3keys
[04:41] <reisio> I mean #freenode
[04:43] <qwebirc74229> tich
[04:49] <niee> hi folks, any one to help me pleas? i search list for ubuntu desktop environment (gnome, xface or etc...) i want to install different enviroument.
[04:50] <wileee> !flavors | niee
[04:50] <cfhowlett> and still no mention of mate
[04:51] <wileee> even on the mini
[04:51] <wileee> is on
[04:51] <niee> many tnx wileee :)
[04:52] <wileee> niee, no problem.
[04:55] <niee> wileee possible to install 2 or more flavors
[04:55] <cfhowlett> niee, yes. but better to install only the desktop environment?  test them, choose one you like
[04:56] <cfhowlett> niee, sudo apt intall lxde gnome-shell kde-plasma xfce4
[04:56] <cfhowlett> then logout/choose DE session/login
[04:56] <niee> ok. tnx again :) this is many help for me. tnx!!!
[04:57] <cfhowlett> happy2help! niee
[05:00] <delt> quick question: how do i tell which version of GTK3 i have installed?
[05:07] <huscurian> Is there a way to delete any unnecessary cache from the Internet on Ubuntu?
[05:08] <huscurian> And more specifically, is there a program that's akin to defragmenter for Ubuntu?
[05:08] <somsip> !defrag | huscurian
[05:09] <huscurian> somsip | the link provided is dead.  Mods should change that link
[05:10] <somsip> huscurian: you;d need to tell them in #ubuntu-ops unless they respond here
[05:10] <qrtn> huscurian: doesn't matter. you don't need defraggers like in windows
[05:11] <Bashing-om> delt: ' dpkg -l "gtk*" ' will list all .
[05:13] <Apteryx> Hello! Does anyone know how to connect Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 to Ubuntu 14.04.
[05:13] <huscurian> Thanks guys.  Is there a way to refresh the Internet fast enough?
[05:13] <huscurian> I've deleted the cache from time to time but it slows down sometimes
[05:13] <Apteryx> Right now it connects and I can browse files, but I cannot open them (for example pictures), and cannot write also.
[05:15] <huscurian> Apteryx, I have to ask.  Are you the same Opteryx from ArmAholic?
[05:15] <Apteryx> huscurian: nope
[05:15] <huscurian> Was just wondering.
[05:15] <huscurian> Anyway, back on topic
[05:15] <Apteryx> no problem!
[05:18] <WebWalker> #China
[05:19] <yerm> hi
[05:19] <yerm> where do you come from?
[05:20] <somsip> yerm: do you have a support question? This is not a place for chat
[05:20] <jotterbot> hey all, is there a way to clone a boot disk whilst ubuntu is running to another hdd, so that I can then boot off that
[05:20] <yerm> oh... i'm sorry
[05:20] <somsip> !clone | jotterbot
[05:20] <somsip> jotterbot: bad factoid. Look for clonezilla for copying disks
[05:20] <somsip> !info clonezilla | jotterbot
[05:21] <jotterbot> i am aware of something like clonezilla, and "dd", but I wish to be able to leave the system running whilst it clones
[05:21] <somsip> jotterbot: what filesystem is it running?
[05:21] <jotterbot> ext4
[05:21] <delt> Bashing-om: thanks
[05:21] <somsip> jotterbot: I don't believe that supports snapshotting in the way it needs to for what you want
[05:22] <neoncontrails> I think I successfully configured sshfs to mount my Ubuntu server (via OSXFUSE), but I notice "sudo sshfs root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/ /mnt/droplet" loads those droplet contents as hidden files. Is there a good reason for this?
[05:22] <jotterbot> I am used to using something like "SuperDuper!" for OSX. It allows a bootable disk creation whilst the machine is running
[05:23] <jotterbot> somsip: no I don't think it does. I have heard of something like using dd to output a disk over the network. Or just straight up cloning a drive
[05:23] <somsip> jotterbot: general search results suggest that you will only get non-atomic snapshots from ext4 so are not guaranteed a perfect copy which might cause problems
[05:23] <jotterbot> is there a way to temporarily mount the root filesystem readonly, run a clone, then remount R/W
[05:24] <somsip> jotterbot: this may change if you use LVM - do you?
[05:24] <somsip> jotterbot: you cant unmount a filesystem that is in use. You'd need to boot to another medium
[05:26] <jotterbot> okay, understood, thanks somsip
[05:29] <Bashing-om> Nighty nite all
[05:36] <neoncontrails> To clarify my question earlier, by 'hidden' I mean those sshfs-mounted files appear to be invisible to Finder even after toggling my AppleShowAllFiles flag to true. Is there a way to get around this, or does sshfs require you to open mounted files from terminal directly?
[05:36] <neoncontrails> More of a minor inconvenience than a problem.
[05:43] <brandontaylor> kgj
[05:48] <klay> Does any one know why i can't choose video resolution in youtube anymore , am using Firefox 41.0.1
[05:50] <klay> it only offers 360 p and auto ? help
[05:53] <slicepaperwords> which shell scripting tutorial should I look up for ubuntu 14.04?
[05:56] <somsip> !terminal | slicepaperwords
[06:01] <indistylo> Hi Folks, Kindly help , I have builded Real time notification system, django server is starting, it says works and gives this message "You're seeing this message because you have DEBUG = True in your Django settings file and you haven't configured any URLs. Get to work!" how to get rid of this,Also resolve this issue, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32960798/django-nodejs-ishoutjs-redis-integrityerror-unique-constraint-failed-auth-use  : you can see t
[06:01] <indistylo> he source code : https://github.com/arunsingh/real_time_notification
[06:02] <sjoshi> indistylo: you seems to be on a wrong channel
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> indistylo: have you tryed in #django
[06:03] <indistylo> yes tried django but to no rescue, No solution
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> indistylo: this is pretty specific django question, best to idle in their channel
[06:03] <indistylo> sjoshi :Joshi sahab can you suggest others relevant channels
[06:04] <indistylo> lotuspsychje: Okay thanks
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> indistylo: or maybe browe django forumsq
[06:07] <sjoshi> indistylo: no idea, there must be some channels on python or django
[06:09] <indistylo> sjoshi, Koi nahi Joshi Sahib, Sansar ko namaskar, Apko bhi pyar bhara namaskar
[06:10] <sjoshi> indistylo: I will request you to please use english atleast in this channel :)
[06:10] <indistylo> :)
[06:10] <Kartagis> !en | indistylo
[06:10] <_Jay_> Hello i have a asus k550ln laptop and every time i use the nvidia drivers form ubuntus driver options X breaks
[06:11] <indistylo> sjoshi, Sure Gentlemen
[06:11] <_Jay_> its a geforce 840m/intel hybrid graphis
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: is it an optimus card?
[06:12] <_Jay_> geforce 840m / intel hybrid
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: for optimus cards you need the package nvidia-prime
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | _Jay_
[06:13] <_Jay_> is my card a optimus?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: yes
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-840m
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: after installing nvidia-prime you need to enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: combined with the best working driver for your system also
[06:15] <_Jay_> do you know witch is the best version for 840m? 346.xx
[06:15] <_Jay_> ???
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: ive seen 346 + nvidia-prime working good on some users
[06:15] <_Jay_> shoudl i ust do a apt-get nvidia-prime
[06:16] <_Jay_> should i just*
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: but best way is to install nvidia-prime and test out drivers from list yourself
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: yes, sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime
[06:16] <_Jay_> i hate the testing part becasuse if it breaks the only way know to fix is a reinstall
[06:17] <_Jay_> is there a faster fix way if drivers dont work?
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | _Jay_ if things go wrong
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: in the recoverymode you can mostly enter 'fix broken packages' option to the rescue
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: or terminal and purge non-working drivers
[06:19] <_Jay_> so im installing just the nvidia-prime with dep now, after i go in software and updates and select the best looking drivers available of install via terminal?
[06:19] <_Jay_> or install*
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: if you have GUI, try drivers from additional drivers list
[06:21] <_Jay_> what does tested beside drivers mean beside the obvious that there tested     but for what? system like mine or for ubuntu?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: for ubuntu
[06:23] <_Jay_> then a good idea to start with that one?
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: its hard to say mate, every card/system reacts different
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: select/test/reboot and good luck to you!
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: and dont forget to enable performance mode right
[06:25] <_Jay_> ok so just to make sure before i apply this if x breaks just fix broken package in recovery?
[06:25] <_Jay_> its a automatic fix?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: not always, but it can do some rescue in soem cases yes
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: you can also start a terminal from recoverymode and purge that driver
[06:26] <_Jay_> ok worst case if that doesnt work and stuck mid boot?
[06:26] <_Jay_> that would work
[06:26] <andrewjs18> hi all, is there a layer 7 filtering module for iptables?
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: worst cases we had users will total black screen, non able to rescue mode
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> andrewjs18: maybe the ##networking guys might know this?
[06:27] <andrewjs18> lotuspsychje, possibly.  I just asked in the ##linux channel..no replies yet
[06:27] <_Jay_> so reinstall at that point/ and in terminal apt-get purge nvidia-current   or is it nvidia*
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: wich ubuntu version please?
[06:28] <_Jay_> 104.04
[06:28] <_Jay_> 14.04*
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-current | _Jay_
[06:29] <_Jay_> but tested says 346,96
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: yep depends on wich driver you installed
[06:30] <_Jay_> does current mean what i have installed in apt-get or 304?
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: did you install 14.04 with cable + updates during setup?
[06:30] <_Jay_> yes
[06:30] <_Jay_> well wifi
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: wich driver did ubuntu choose by default
[06:31] <_Jay_> i did not
[06:31] <_Jay_> it*
[06:31] <_Jay_> just my intel
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: try for nvidia-prime and 346 perhaps
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> see what it does
[06:31] <_Jay_> prime installed selected 346.96 tested
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:32] <_Jay_> ready to apply
[06:32] <_Jay_> just wanted m recovery option before i tried
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: cross your fingerz :p
[06:32] <p3nt3st> .
[06:32] <_Jay_> well if im back in a few it worked ifnot good night and see ya tomrowo on another install
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: normally you can always goto recoverymode
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> and fix things
[06:33] <_Jay_> lets hope   thanks abunch for help and info
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> np
[06:33] <_Jay_> brb goin to try
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:39] <genkgo> How can I start a service as a non-root user when booting? Googling gives me all kinds of suggestion @reboot with cron, upstart (but then I need root, right?). What would be best practice?
[06:39] <genkgo> I am on 14.04.3
[06:39] <Ben64> genkgo: explain more
[06:40] <greenerr> some services require root to run at boot.
[06:40] <greenerr> others do not.
[06:40] <genkgo> Ok, I wrote this program in Rust, gives me an executable. Should be started by the user that needs the program and has sufficient privileges.
[06:40] <genkgo> not being root
[06:41] <genkgo> that is too much privileges
[06:41] <genkgo> greenerr: program is running now. what if server crashes and (re)boots.
[06:42] <Ben64> you can use root to start it as any user you want
[06:42] <Ben64> like how apache runs as www-data
[06:43] <genkgo> Ben64: with start-stop-daemon?
[06:45] <Ben64> genkgo: yep
[06:46] <genkgo> Ben64: thanks, I will look into that
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> _Jay_: any luck mate?
[06:53] <_Jay_> still applying   just chaing settign on irc client whiel i wait
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> ok
[07:07] <d3m0n> I used: usermod -g <user> <group> to change primary group then: deluser <user> <group> but it still gives me the error "web" is the primary group
[07:10] <d3m0n> Ahh I had username's switched
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> morning SCHAAP137
[07:22] <jay_> drivers failed
[07:23] <jay_> had fun in the recovery   u still here bud?
[07:27] <Kartagis> why does shrinking a partition attempt to move it to the right on gparted?
[07:28] <antoon> Moo. Basically, if the system freezes and I can't do *anything* (ctrl+alt+backspace, alt+sysrq+r/other combos don't respond), and the machine stops answering on ping - what does that indicate?
[07:28] <antoon> Could it pretty much be anything, or something kernel/driver-related?
[07:30] <baizon> antoon: or hardware-related
[07:30] <baizon> so pretty much everything
[07:32] <antoon> Blubb
[07:33] <antoon> So if I try it on another intel compute stick, and the problem remains - I can be pretty certain that it's a driver/kernel issue?
[07:33] <hateball> antoon: unless you got a faulty batch. but yeah, most likely software :)
[07:40] <antoon> Well, that sucks
[07:40] <antoon> must say, so far rpi > ics
[07:42] <Silex> hello, this morning archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com answer not very reliably. Is there any "server status" page somewhere?
[07:42] <Silex> (apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade sometimes take a very long time to download a few KB)
[07:43] <baizon> Silex: switch the server then?
[07:43] <baizon> Silex: im using the one from europe
[07:48] <dsa> I need to type "/ip -6 route add 2000::/3 via 2001:0db8:0:f101::1" at each computer start, how can I register permanently on ubuntu?
[07:50] <juan_> Hello
[07:50] <happycoder> how do I bind Control-Up to history-search-backward in ~/.inputrc ?
[07:50] <juan_> How to go to a spanish channel, please
[07:51] <dionysus69> I exported some env variable from root user's /etc/profile and when I log into a different sudoer user it is seen from there, I dont understand logic behind
[07:51] <dionysus69> logically I would think that only root user would be having access to that env variable
[07:52] <dionysus69> can anyone explain please?
[07:53] <baizon> dionysus69: i dont understand what you mean
[07:53] <Silex> baizon: you mean eu.archive.ubuntu.com?
[07:53] <loki_> hello, my cursor dissapears sometimes in gnome terminal in ubuntu 15.04
[07:53] <Silex> or my country name or whatever?
[07:53] <baizon> Silex: well im using my country
[07:53] <loki_> have you such problem? maybe somebody know how i can fix this?
[07:53] <dionysus69> environmental variable inside roots /etc/profile is also loaded for other user on login, I am just curious why
[07:53] <baizon> dionysus69: because /etc is global, not root
[07:54] <Silex> baizon: is there an easy "env var" way to change that or do I really have to edit sources.list etc?
[07:54] <Silex> baizon: it's for a build system
[07:54] <baizon> Silex: /root is for root
[07:54] <dionysus69> baizon: oh I see thanks, what are other global root directories or that one is the only one?
[07:54]  * Silex redirects last comment to dionysus69
[07:54] <baizon> Silex: i use gui
[07:54] <Silex> lol, ok
[07:54] <Silex> thanks anyway
[07:55] <baizon> Silex: i think there is a cli command
[07:55] <dionysus69> baizon: ok makes sense, I dont fully understand linux hierarchical structure, I am getting ther ehaha thanks
[07:55] <baizon> dionysus69: only one, /root
[07:55] <baizon> dionysus69: /etc is the config for all users on the system
[07:56] <baizon> Silex: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line
[07:58] <baizon> dionysus69: no problem :)
[08:02] <Silex> baizon: thanks
[08:19] <rutu> hi, hope you do fine. i was wondering if somebody of you know how to reset the menu in ubuntu-15.10. the "shutdown" entry disappeared.
[08:21] <DJOnes> rutu: Its probably best to ask that in #ubuntu+1 That'll be the support channel for 5.10 until its released as a final version, the people there are more likely to know if there's an issue
[08:23] <baizon> rutu: unity --reset
[08:24] <baizon> rutu: else http://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration
[08:35] <rutu> @baizon - it says "ERROR: the reset option is now deprecated".
[08:36] <baizon> rutu: thats why i posted the second link
[08:41] <rutu> baizon: ah, tried "unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity" which made compiz crash, uploading the bug report now ...
[08:41] <baizon> rutu: u use a beta version so it can happen
[08:41] <OnceMe> hello how can I change directory default home for my user on linux
[08:42] <OnceMe> but to existing one
[08:42] <OnceMe> I get usermod: directory /home/lean. exists
[08:42] <OnceMe> I get usermod: directory /home/lean/ exists
[08:42] <serard> Hello
[08:43] <OnceMe> I dont want to move my curent files
[08:43] <OnceMe> just to switch to new directory
[08:43] <OnceMe> as default home
[08:44] <RepThis1> Hey guys im having some trouble with wake over wan and was wonder what the best way to get information about my nic is, Would it just be lspci | grep Ethernet. I seem to have found the model number but it gives me 3 models.
[08:46] <RepThis1> Also, if the driver you are looking for off of the company's website does not support linux kernel 4.1.x are you pretty screwed then or can u take an older driver and try to compile it or something?
[08:46] <RepThis1> :(
[08:47] <rutu> baizon,  " dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ " makes compiz not crash any more. now it hangs :)
[08:47] <Trinity> I just updated Ubuntu and now I can't play CS:GO anymore. I used a fix here... but it's not working anymore
[08:47] <Trinity> http://askubuntu.com/questions/475756/could-not-find-required-opengl-entry-point-glgeterror
[08:48] <Trinity> took a look at the directory, /usr/lib32/fglrx doesn't exist anymore
[08:48] <Trinity> any ideas?
[08:48] <baizon> Trinity: install fglrx again
[08:49] <Trinity> ah, simple enough. thanks!
[08:56] <zamba> which package provides flash for chromium in 14.04?
[08:57] <pesari> zamba: for example pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[08:57] <zamba> pesari: thanks
[08:58] <Trinity> on second note, the folder is now installed but cs:go is still throwing an error
[08:58] <Trinity> it's probably pointing to different libraries or something
[08:58] <Trinity> is there a command I can use to check what was updated?
[08:58] <Trinity> perhaps Steam was updated itself or something
[08:59] <baizon> Trinity: i would recommend to reinstall steam
[09:27] <pitiye> can any one teach me how to increase screen brightness in Lubuntu 15.04 ?
[09:28] <bhanz> what steps should be taken in order to determine performance issue apart from using system utilities ? any suggestion ?
[09:30] <vape> pitiye: There is a program called xbacklight that you can install via apt-get, and it allows you to change brightness with a simple interface through the command line.
[09:30] <vape> pitiye: sudo apt-get install xbacklight
[09:30] <vape> pitiye: xbacklight -set 100
[09:30] <pitiye> vape:  i did with xbacklight -set 70
[09:31] <vape> OK well it's out of 100, so 70 would be 70% brightness
[09:31] <vape> so if you want to make it brighter, use a number between 70 and 100
[09:33] <pitiye> but does not work
[09:33] <opss> How can I move all the window controls to the right (or left)? Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome.
[09:33] <EriC^^> pitiye: xrandr might
[09:33] <pitiye> vape:  xbacklight -get
[09:33] <pitiye> 44.444444
[09:34] <vape> opss: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':minimize,maximize,close'
[09:34] <vape> opss: http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right-or-left
[09:34] <opss> tnx vape
[09:44] <freeroute> oh this is interesting... so if I understand correctly, I can choose between the pre-installed applications and the DE itself? https://youtu.be/97p1eKZRzng?t=103
[09:44] <freeroute> how exactly would I do this, just download Ubuntu minimal and at the software selection stage choose only the KDE without applications?
[09:44] <freeroute> I've asked this on #kubuntu but they're still asleep I think.
[09:46] <alex__> hello anyone
[09:46] <alex__> go hack google
[09:46] <rory> hello alex__
[09:47] <alex__> :D
[09:47] <rutu> join #ubuntu-unity
[09:47] <auronandace> freeroute: the kubuntu-desktop package would bring in the kde desktop and loads of other packages, if you want just the kde desktop then you would need to select the appropriate package (i think it is plasma-desktop, not sure since i don't use kde)
[09:48] <kanupatar> Is there any way to set the permission to /dev/ttyUSB0 to everyone?
[09:48] <kanupatar> means I dont need the sudo
[09:48] <freeroute> auronandace: ah k, so it sounds like I need to select the plasma-desktop then if I don't want apps like LibreOffice installed.
[09:49] <rory> kanupatar: don't need the sudo to do what?
[09:49] <simran> #freecad
[09:49] <auronandace> freeroute: yes
[09:49] <kanupatar> rory: to open /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:49] <freeroute> cool, thanks I'll try that
[09:49] <kanupatar> rory: should be available for all
[09:49] <rory> kanupatar: what is the current output of the command: "ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0" ?
[09:53] <kanupatar> crw...root
[09:53] <kanupatar> rory: ^^
[09:54] <rory> kanupatar: can you copy and paste it exactly please? ctrl-shift-c to copy from a terminal
[09:55] <kanupatar> crw-rw---- 1 root  Oct  6 15:23 /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:56] <kanupatar> rory: ^^
[09:57] <rory> kanupatar: Is this relevant to you? http://askubuntu.com/questions/133235/how-do-i-allow-non-root-access-to-ttyusb0-on-12-04
[10:00] <kanupatar> rory: confused
[10:00] <rory> kanupatar: What are you hoping to achieve overall by doing this?
[10:01] <kanupatar> rory: to avoid giving sudo access to a trainee
[10:02] <JunkHunk> hello I am running kubuntu 14.04 and I get this same error: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?85023-an-issue-for-linux-users-%28about-the-mono-gmcs-package%29-and-a-solution
[10:02] <JunkHunk> but my apt does not give me such a choice
[10:03] <JunkHunk> I ve searched for older mono packages in synaptic but there is none
[10:03] <JunkHunk> how could I install mono-gcms?
[10:06] <rory> kanupatar: did the chmod work?
[10:07] <kanupatar> rory: no
[10:07] <kanupatar> rory: do I need change group?
[10:09] <Mathew228> Wht system-config-samba notwork on 15.04 , only work on 14.04.
[10:09] <Mathew228> Why*
[10:11] <juan_> Hello
[10:11] <juan_> Where can I find help in Spanish, please?
[10:11] <cfhowlett> !es | juan_
[10:12] <juan_> Thank you
[10:16] <juan_> Hello
[10:16] <cfhowlett> juan_, eh?  english only here.
[10:16] <juan_> Yes
[10:17] <juan_> only englihs i am not idiot
[10:17] <alpe> ciao
[10:17] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu question, juan_
[10:17] <juan_> After update of ubuntu 14.04 my computer starts
[10:18] <juan_> Start well, but when the start finish the screen is black
[10:18] <juan_> Oh, yes, sorry for my english
[10:18] <cfhowlett> juan_, it was working before your update?
[10:18] <juan_> yes
[10:19] <juan_> the problem start after update
[10:19] <cfhowlett> juan_, so you don't see a login screen OR you login and then you get a black screen??
[10:21] <ubuntuspa> hello everybody
[10:21] <ubuntuspa> !
[10:21] <juan_> I can write my user name and code. After that the screen is black
[10:22] <cfhowlett> juan_, hm.  possibly a graphics settings issue.
[10:22] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | juan_
[10:22] <juan_> I think the same
[10:23] <juan_> I look for the link. Thank you
[10:23] <cfhowlett> happy2help! juan_
[10:24] <juan_> Thanks. bye
[10:25] <ubuntuspa> dear friends and fellows, happy new day, lets get started. just another issue to solve: booting xubuntu-live-usb fails. the reason is a unetbootin problem, there is some library modules missing that I need to add. Got the answer and workaround on this website: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuxboot/+bug/1190256 now the question: as I don't have any ubu
[10:25] <ubuntuspa> ntu on my computers installed, do you have any ideas where I could find these files to copy them to my live-usb?
[10:26] <freeroute> ubuntuspa: can you boot inside any liveUSB or liveCD environment?
[10:27] <cfhowlett> https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuxboot/+bug/1190256/comments/8
[10:27] <ubuntuspa> freeroute: what I already have is the xubuntu-live-usb but it doesn't boot. I have debian istalled here :(
[10:28] <globalimport> how do you get the help menu to display in kismet? I read the manual and it said press "h", that is not doing anything for me from the main client screen. Also tried looking through the menus and can't find it. Also I found reference on a website and in the manual to kismet's ability to show a network's location, I even found a screenshot of a compass with an arrow showing estimated direction, but I can't find it anywhere in
[10:28] <globalimport> the menus. Any suggestions? There's no activity on #kismet, so apoligies for being a bit off topic but hopefully someone here knows?
[10:29] <freeroute> ubuntuspa: if you're on a linux system already, just plug in a USB stick that you can overwrite, and then do something like `dd if=/path/to/xubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX`
[10:29] <ubuntuspa> freeroute: ok so need to download xubuntu again and then not use unetbootin? :) thanks.
[10:29] <freeroute> but be sure to get the paths right, because dd is a dangerous tool
[10:30] <freeroute> you don't have to download it again if you already have the downloaded iso image.
[10:30] <ubuntuspa> thats why I prefer to use unetbootin. but I will be careful and there will be no damage at all
[10:31] <kanupatar> rory: crwxrwxrwx. 1 root dialout 188, 0 Oct  6 15:40 /dev/ttyUSB0
[10:31] <ubuntuspa> yes but with unetbootin it was in tmp and I had a restart, it's passed now
[10:31] <kanupatar> ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0
[10:33] <agares> hello
[10:33] <mjayk> hay
[10:36] <ubuntuspa> thx for your help & bye
[10:36] <freeroute> np, gl
[10:41] <Qwertie> Is there any way to find the source VCS for a package? The ubuntu build of grive is 2 years ahead of the github version.
[11:12] <fishcooker> is there any offtopic channel for ubuntu
[11:13] <baizon> fishcooker: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:16] <oddRevan> I tried creating a live CD with 'dd' as is advised almost every Google search result, didn't work, Unetbootin did
[11:16] <oddRevan> thoughts?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> oddRevan, it worked.  what's the problem?
[11:16] <oddRevan> why didn't dd work?
[11:18] <baizon> oddRevan: well you did something wrong with dd
[11:18] <cfhowlett> oddRevan, note:  dd is not included on the "create a USB" page.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[11:19] <k1l> oddRevan: did you target dd to sdb or sdb2? what iso was it?
[11:19] <oddRevan> I actually installed Debian, but I'm sure they're similar enough
[11:20] <oddRevan> k1l: sdb1, checked with fsck
[11:20] <k1l> so ask debian if they have hybrid isos (needed for dd to work with the iso). and sdb1 is the issue here. you need to ss it to bare metal, not to partitions.
[11:22] <yellabs-r2> hi there
[11:23] <yellabs-r2> all you good people :)
[11:23] <yellabs-r2> how - on terminal - can i get utc time to show if its pm or am ?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, date
[11:24] <yellabs-r2> yes i get date -u , but how would i now its am or pm ?
[11:24] <cfhowlett> %r shows the 12-hour clock tie
[11:25] <cfhowlett> see the man page
[11:25] <yellabs-r2> ah , sorry yes the man ..
[11:25] <ioria> date +%r
[11:27] <cfhowlett> ioria, indeed!
[11:28] <ioria> 😀
[11:33] <gerep> Which is the best way for me to create a bootable USB? I tried using dd and unetbootin but it doesn't boot
[11:33] <cfhowlett> !usb | gerep
[11:33] <k1l> gerep: what command did you use exactly with dd?
[11:33] <tinyhippo> gerep: does the machine you are trying ot boot from USB support booting from USB?
[11:34] <gerep> cfhowlett: I'm already using ubuntu, I want to write my FreeBSD iso on my USB and install it on my PC
[11:34] <gerep> k1l: sudo dd bs=4M if=~/Downloads/FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso of=/dev/sdb1 && sync
[11:34] <k1l> gerep: dont use sdb1. use sdb
[11:34] <cfhowlett> gerep, sounds like a great question for freebds.  I'm sure they provide exactly that kind of information
[11:34] <gerep> tinyhippo: Yes, it does
[11:35] <k1l> usbs dont boot from partitions. they boot from bare metal
[11:35] <gerep> k1l: great, I'll try that! :D
[11:35] <gerep> k1l: You are correct!
[11:35] <gerep> cfhowlett: I asked here because I thought there would be a Ubuntu specific application for that but I'll keep using dd, thanks
[11:36] <knob> gerep, there is also... dcfldd
[11:37] <cfhowlett> gerep, https://www.freebsdnews.com/2009/06/15/install-freebsd-80-usb-memory-stick/
[11:37] <knob> It shows a little bit more information as it's copying
[11:37] <gerep> knob: Ah! Great, thanks a lot! :D
[11:37] <Paulo> a versao 14.0.4.3 é beta.pois baixei e instalei e n sei
[11:37] <ioria> or maybe it's not an iso but a freebsd-memstick.img
[11:37] <cfhowlett> Italian??
[11:38] <ioria> brasil
[11:38] <gerep> cfhowlett:portuguese
[11:38] <cfhowlett> ioria, I really need to get out more!
[11:38] <gerep> ioria: That's an ISO :D
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !pt | Paulo
[11:38] <ioria> ^_°
[11:39] <gerep> ioria: are you  from Brazil?
[11:40] <ioria> gerep, no.... sorry !
[11:50] <Twirl> Hi guys, idk if this is the right channel but someone sent me a document with .xlsx extension and i tried to open it with libre office calc and it opens the file but it looks completely broken, is there another application i could try?
[11:52] <knob> Twirl, do you have the latests libreOffice updates?
[11:52] <knob> Alternatively, ask the person (if possible), to save it as a .odf (Open Document Format).
[11:52] <Twirl> knob: i guess, i always update all the software i have installed
[11:52] <Twirl> knob: that is not possible
[11:52] <knob> Hmm... then you will have to "play" with the document back and forth until you get what you want.
[11:53] <Twirl> knob: how?
[11:54] <xStark> Good evening.
[11:54] <knob> o/ xStark
[11:54] <knob> Twirl, well... just try everything.
[11:54] <knob> Do you open it, and automatically it throws the garbage?
[11:54] <Twirl> everything like what?
[11:54] <knob> Or does LibreOffice Calc give you "import" options?
[11:55] <antoon> Can I somehow check what driver is loaded for f.ex. wifi?
[11:55] <ioria> Twirl, if you run        libreoffice --calc filename.xlsx     ?
[11:56] <antoon> Ah, found it. Sorry
[11:57] <Twirl> ioria: whats the point of doing that?
[11:57] <knob> antoon, share the love.  How did you find it?  For others to learn  (including me)
[11:57] <knob> Twirl, did you try ioria's suggestion?
[11:57] <Twirl> im onto it
[11:58] <Twirl> that just opens the file same way as if i  double click it
[11:58] <antoon> I googled it and found: "sudo lshw -C network", knob, heh
[11:59] <knob> antoon, nice.  Thanks!
[11:59] <knob> Twirl, ok ok... so it's opening with Calc staright up.
[11:59] <ioria> Twirl, are you 14.04 ?
[11:59] <knob> And not "import options" when the file is going to open?
[11:59] <Twirl> 15.04
[12:01] <Twirl> knob: nope it just opens the file
[12:01] <knob> Man, I am at a loss... last resource (for me), would be to open it up in Excel, save as odf, then open in LibreOffice
[12:02] <ioria> Twirl, it's possible that it contains some macros, that can be used only in MS, as far as i know
[12:02] <Twirl> yea and i have to switch to windows :\
[12:03] <mcphail> Twirl: MS office runs reasonably well under Wine, if you have a copy
[12:03] <mjayk> mcphail: depends heavily on the version :(
[12:03] <allizom> Twirl: does this document contain sensitive info?
[12:04] <allizom> you could try one of these online document converter
[12:04] <Twirl> allizom: which one?
[12:04] <k1l> Twirl: easy fix: ask the one to send it as .doc (office 2007) and not as .docx.
[12:05] <Twirl> k1l: that is not easy, that is impossible :P
[12:05] <allizom> Twirl: first result: https://cloudconvert.com/ods-to-xlsx or anything that works
[12:06] <Twirl> mcphail: im not going to add anything to wine, i dont like it, if it comes to that i would just boot into windows and deal with it
[12:06] <allizom> sorry the inverse
[12:06] <Twirl> allizom: k im trying
[12:06] <mcphail> Twirl: fair enough. Unfortunately, there will never be a complete solution for dealing with MS files on Ubuntu unless MS releases a Linux version
[12:07] <k1l> Twirl: well if you want MS office to run on linux without wine, then you need to talk to MS to support linux.
[12:07] <Twirl> allizom: lol now it looks really funny
[12:07] <Twirl> and broken
[12:07] <k1l> Twirl: so you are making it harder than it should be, but that is your choice then
[12:07] <Twirl> allizom: everything got duplicated
[12:07] <Twirl> k1l: i guess ill just boot into windows then, no worries
[12:07] <k1l> Twirl: if that is your choice, then do it.
[12:08] <ioria> there are on line converter do pdf ...
[12:09] <Twirl> the pdf worked pretty good!! ty allizom
[12:10] <Twirl> still looks completely broken, maybe the person didnt know how to work with calc documents
[12:10] <Twirl> anyways the first part is decent
[12:11] <gardar> Twirl: have you tried wps office?
[12:11] <gardar> http://wps.com/linux/
[12:12] <Twirl> gardar: is it free? is it in the repos?
[12:12] <gardar> Twirl: yea it's free
[12:12] <gardar> but not open source, so it's not in the repos
[12:12] <gardar> Twirl: you can get .deb files here http://wps-community.org/downloads
[12:15] <banese> Hey
[12:18] <Twirl> gardar: might give it a try, dont like to install additional software just for one time use
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:19] <ioria> Twirl, you can try with gnumeric (in the repo) and convert in cvs with the command ssconvert file.xlsx newfile.csv
[12:20] <gardar> Twirl: yeah well I do a lot of business with partners that use microsoft products, so WPS has become my primary office suite, it's really compatible with microsoft office formats
[12:20] <gardar> but to each his own
[12:20] <gardar> and it's not like software can't be uninstalled :)
[12:21] <Twirl> ioria: that will probably look the same as the online converter
[12:21] <ioria> Twirl, likely
[12:22] <NovaKittyCatMeow> I'm trying to get an Edimax N150 (ew-7811un) USB wifi adapter working reliably.  It seems to not work after I suspend.  Ubuntu supports this device out of the box, or it's supposed to.  I tried the driver from Edimax too but it won't compile.  I'm tempted to try the driver from https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes, as alot of comments in forums indicate that it works.  Has anyone been through all this before?
[12:25] <Twirl> well, tried dochub and it says the file contains errors, maybe its corrupted or something
[12:27] <ioria> Twirl, have you tried this ? https://online2pdf.com/convert-xlsx-to-pdf
[12:30] <Twirl> ioria: :O
[12:30] <Twirl> that fixed it
[12:30] <ioria> Twirl, good
[12:30] <Twirl> ty
[12:31] <ioria> NovaKittyCatMeow, at least this pvaret compiles  . .. .  last part http://askubuntu.com/questions/509498/is-there-a-standard-wifi-driver-for-the-edimax-ew-7811un
[12:31] <ioria> Twirl, np
[12:34] <NovaKittyCatMeow> iroia, Yes it does seem to work.  I'm trying it on a VM to test right now.  What I'm wondering is will I be unable to update linux kernels without breaking the driver?
[12:35] <ioria> NovaKittyCatMeow, with dkms it should .... if not, you recompile
[12:37] <NovaKittyCatMeow> My problem is this is a friends computer I'm fixing up, and this friend has no idea what linux is.  I was hoping to keep it really noob friendly.  Is locking the kernel version a  resonable option or is that a bad idea?
[12:38] <ioria> NovaKittyCatMeow, just write a script with the compile commands ... put it on the Desktop with a label "if WFI not working after an update" :_)
[12:41] <NovaKittyCatMeow> ioria, hmm that sounds like a good idea....would it just be the "sudo dkms install 8192cu/1.10" and "sudo depmod -a" parts?
[12:42] <Guest6583> exit
[12:42] <Guest6583> exit
[12:42] <Guest6583> exit
[12:42] <ioria> NovaKittyCatMeow, all of them...  i guess, remember to cd in the proper directory and the beginning of the script
[12:43] <Guest6583> help
[12:43] <Guest6583> cd
[12:43] <mcphail> Guest6583: /exit
[12:43] <Guest6583> 3q
[12:43] <ioria> NovaKittyCatMeow, without the first two commands, i mean
[12:44] <NovaKittyCatMeow> ioria, you mean i can skip re cloning the source and running "sudo dkms add ./rtl8192cu-fixes"?
[12:44] <ioria> NovaKittyCatMeow, yes, you don't need the clone anymore
[12:45] <NovaKittyCatMeow> good...I was worried if the version changed again...the compile command would have to change too
[12:46] <ioria> NovaKittyCatMeow, no
[12:47] <joel__> k
[12:48] <NovaKittyCatMeow> ioria, what i mean is the commands suggested at http://askubuntu.com/questions/509498/is-there-a-standard-wifi-driver-for-the-edimax-ew-7811un (at the end) no longer work because the version has changed from 1.9 to 1.10.
[12:49] <NovaKittyCatMeow> thanks for the advice ioria!
[12:50] <ioria> NovaKittyCatMeow, no, i mean the last part of the page...
[12:50] <ioria> NovaKittyCatMeow, where you see "With an ethernet connection do:"
[12:56] <NovaKittyCatMeow> iroia, yes thats what i mean..the command "sudo dkms install 8192cu/1.9" is no longer valid after "git clone https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes.git", it should be "sudo dkms install 8192cu/1.10" now.  So if I were to put it all in a script and 1.11 came along the script would break.
[12:57] <maximusfl_> Any other tool besides top to figure put what process is using cpu
[12:57] <NovaKittyCatMeow> iroia: so not pulling the code again would be preferable
[12:57] <maximusfl_> I am looking for a command line tool
[12:57] <ioria> NovaKittyCatMeow, oh... i got it.... yes, good idea
[12:57] <NovaKittyCatMeow> maximusfl_: I like htop
[12:58] <SCHAAP137> maximusfl_: i like htop
[12:58] <maximusfl_> thanks I will check it out
[12:58] <SCHAAP137> very similar to top
[12:58] <NovaKittyCatMeow> we both like htop
[12:59] <SCHAAP137> there is no life without htop
[13:00] <maximusfl_> I have a process that spikes the cpu to 100% very quickly, but top seems not to catch it before it goes back down to 3%
[13:00] <SCHAAP137> maximusfl_: you can use the -d option to set the screen update interval / delay time
[13:01] <SCHAAP137> it takes a value in the form of x.x seconds
[13:02] <maximusfl_> _d option for htop?
[13:03] <maximusfl_> Or d option on top
[13:06] <maximusfl_> Thanks every one!
[13:20] <wakeatnight> hi i have installed a mainline lowlatency kernel (4.0) on ubuntu 15.04.. now software updater wants me to `update` the 3.19 kernel. should i do that and will i have to change grub afterwards to default boot into mainline?
[13:46] <ratrace> Hi. When I edit the wired connection and set custom DNS ip addresses... how do I make it refresh /etc/resolv.conf with that info? I tried disconnecting and reconnecting but that didn't help.
[14:03] <JunkHunk> hello I am trying to install mono-gmcs but I get a dependencies error
[14:03] <JunkHunk> could anyone help me solving it
[14:03] <JunkHunk> ?
[14:03] <JunkHunk> this is the case: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?85023-an-issue-for-linux-users-%28about-the-mono-gmcs-package%29-and-a-solution
[14:04] <JunkHunk> but i cannot get aptitude to find that solution in the post
[14:04] <k1l> JunkHunk: please put all the output into a pastebin and link it here please
[14:04] <JunkHunk> okay
[14:05] <JunkHunk> here you go: http://pastebin.com/k7SRsTEx
[14:07] <k1l> JunkHunk: that sounds like its from a ppa. please pastebin a "LANG=C apt-cache policy mono-gmcs"  ( the LANG=C will make it output english one time)
[14:09] <JunkHunk> here you go again: http://pastebin.com/W0z6S2E8
[14:10] <JunkHunk> I used this indications to install mono: http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/
[14:11] <k1l> i recall the mono repos are beeing a mess quite often when it comes to depencies
[14:12] <tykayn> hi
[14:12] <k1l> JunkHunk: did you run a "sudo apt update" recently to make sure you got a recent list of package versions?
[14:13] <k1l> JunkHunk: please pastebin a "LANG=C sudo apt-get install mono-gmcs"
[14:14] <hateball> Any reason for using non-official repos? Since Mono is in the Ubuntu repos already and all
[14:15] <tykayn> hi folks, i have a weird issue when i login after a sleep in ububntu 14.04
[14:15] <tykayn> i can move my cursor, but then,  everything freezes
[14:15] <k1l> JunkHunk: and a "LANG=C apt-cache policy mono-mcs"
[14:16] <JunkHunk> k1l, http://pastebin.com/h4FRKyXT
[14:17] <ghoti> So.. I need to take an HTML page with <img> tags and re-render it so the images are base64-encoded within the page. I can do this manually, or I could write a PHP script to walk through the page's DOM, but does something like this exist as a stand-alone tool somewhere? I may need to do this for quite a few pages and I'd rather not reinvent the wheel.
[14:17] <JunkHunk> k1l, http://pastebin.com/DhWMeyDr
[14:18] <JunkHunk> no older candidates it seems
[14:18] <bazhang> #html ghoti
[14:18] <k1l> JunkHunk: yeah, the 3rd party repo form mono is broken with depencies. it ships a newer version of mono-mcs but their gmcs refers to the older version.
[14:19] <JunkHunk> dead end then?
[14:19] <k1l> JunkHunk: you could try a "sudo apt-get install -f" but that might reuslt in a broken package system. i would suggest you talk to the mono guys to either correct that circle link or to ship the proper versions
[14:20] <JunkHunk> irc mono channel is the desert
[14:20] <JunkHunk> :-(
[14:20] <k1l> JunkHunk: its on gimpnet, not freenode
[14:21] <k1l> JunkHunk: http://www.mono-project.com/community/help/irc/
[14:21] <JunkHunk> GOLD
[14:22] <alig> hi pro )
[14:22] <alig> are there network fans ? )
[14:23] <Pici> alig: What?
[14:24] <hxs> me
[14:24] <hxs> I'm
[14:24] <ghoti> bazhang: ya, I've asked in #html too, but the question was more about a tool that might be available in #ubuntu.
[14:24] <alig> so the task )
[14:24] <bomber> HOLY F%^*&!!!! I just opened my computer today, it was stuck for some reason so I force closed it, and now I'm stuck in a bios boot loop and I just found out that the bios thinks that all my boot options were deleted!!!!
[14:24] <A124> Ummm... After kernel update (yesterdays LTS upgrade), I have a blinking cursor instead of IDE loading. Any ideas?
[14:24] <alig> i have PC w/o wi-fi card
[14:24] <alig> android phone
[14:25] <alig> and notebook
[14:25] <jbd__> guys help me
[14:25] <bomber> How the he'll can Tha happen?! r
[14:25] <jbd__> i want to hack an android phone remotly
[14:25] <bazhang> no cursing here bomber
[14:25] <bomber> Sorry... I was being strongly frustrated over this..
[14:26] <alig> i want connect phone to PC w/USB
[14:26] <A124> IDK. Noone helped me with anything so far on this channel.
[14:26] <A124> So I should be frustraetd too.
[14:26] <alig> and use it as wifi router
[14:26] <NovaKittyCatMeow> bomber: is your CMOS battery dead?
[14:27] <alig> so all devices are in one network
[14:28] <alig> PC - Ubuntu Server 15.04
[14:28] <ghoti> alig, sounds like you want to use your phone as a wifi hotspot for the notebook, but at the same time tether via usb for the PC.
[14:28] <ghoti> alig: or buy a wifi card for the PC.
[14:28] <alig> yes
[14:28] <alig> no i want to do it without any devices
[14:29] <alig> so i did it
[14:29] <ghoti> I've never tried usb tethering while hotspot is active, but you might want to ask in #android.  Unless your phone us running Ubuntu.
[14:29] <alig> i can ssh my PC through my phone
[14:29] <alig> but using adb connect
[14:30] <alig> while android as wifi hotspot
[14:30] <auronandace> alig: how come you have a server that requires a phone for an internet connection?
[14:31] <A124> How can I find what is eating my space?
[14:32] <A124> Something is slowly eatimg my space.. 1MB a minute.
[14:32] <HackerII> the HD monstors
[14:32] <ghoti> A124: what filesystem is it on?  (Do you have separate filesystems for /var, /usr, /home, /tmp/, etc?)
[14:33] <auronandace> A124: maybe it is a log file getting too much input
[14:33] <OerHeks> A124, check your logs in /var/log/ or the logs in your /home/ , xsession errors maybe?
[14:33] <A124> Ext
[14:33] <anew> where the heck is the chrome executable, i'm in opt/google/chrome and it's not in there
[14:34] <A124> Thanks will check.
[14:34] <ghoti> A124: du -sk / ... then run it again a few minutes later. If /var is growing, try du -sk /var .. and continue to drill down.
[14:34] <A124> Thought about logs, idk where
[14:34] <auronandace> anew: try: which google-chrome
[14:34] <ghoti> er
[14:34] <bomber> I'm sorry, I just lost my connection and didn't check messages.  Did anyone respond to my situation?
[14:34] <jhutchins> A124: du with various options.
[14:34] <anew> auronandace, how do i run cl from gui ?
[14:34] <ghoti> A124: I meant, du -sk /* and du -sk /var/*. :)
[14:34] <cfhowlett> which google-chrome anew
[14:34] <ghoti> bomber: nope.
[14:35] <bomber> I'm currently hoping to be able to build a boot usb that would work
[14:35] <auronandace> anew: open a terminal from the dash
[14:35] <bomber> But i fear it won't because there are no usb boot options
[14:35] <ghoti> bomber: but it doesn't sound like it's ubuntu-related. Sounds more like a hardware (motherboard) problem to me.
[14:35] <anew> hwo do i run terminal from the gui ?
[14:35] <ghoti> anew: which gui?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> hit the super button, type in bash
[14:36] <cfhowlett> or terminal
[14:36] <anew> what button ?
[14:36] <ghoti> sigh
[14:36] <anew> yes kill me
[14:36] <cfhowlett> "windows" button
[14:36] <k1l_> anew: the one with the windows logo on it. its called "super button" on non windows OS
[14:36] <k1l_> for obvious reasons :)
[14:36] <anew> that just brings up a search bar
[14:37] <k1l_> anew: type terminal in it.
[14:37] <grazia> ciao atutti
[14:37] <cfhowlett> anew, and NOW you type terminal
[14:37] <k1l_> or press ctrl+alt+t
[14:37] <anew> yeah but how do i add these icons to the desktop
[14:37] <grazia> qualcuno parla italiano?
[14:37] <k1l_> !it | grazia
[14:37] <cfhowlett> !it | grazia
[14:38] <OerHeks> anew, when terminal is open, lock that icon
[14:38] <k1l_> anew: desktop, or launcher bar?
[14:38] <anew> says it's in usr/bin/google-chrome, but when i open that it just opens a text file
[14:39] <anew> k1l_, launcher bar
[14:39] <cfhowlett> pretty sure terminal is on the launcher bar
[14:39] <OerHeks> oh, now it is google-chrome ..
[14:39] <auronandace> cfhowlett: not by default
[14:39] <anew> kill me
[14:39] <k1l_> anew: is it unity?
[14:39] <cfhowlett> anew, stop saying Kill ME.  not helpful and/or annoying
[14:39] <anew> i have no terminal and no chrome on launcher bar, when i do which google-chrome and i open usr/bin/google-chrome a txt file opens
[14:40] <k1l_> anew: stop
[14:40] <bomber> If anyone by any chance had this kind of thing occurred to them, please let me know..
[14:40] <bomber> Kind of desperate, as this is my work computer. 😊
[14:40] <anew> can anyone help me with chrome on launcher bar !
[14:41] <k1l_> anew: press "super+a"  then type "chrome" click on it or press enter (assuming here you installed that properly). then chrome should launch. then right-click on the logo of chrome in the launcher and check "keep in launcher"
[14:41] <cfhowlett> cd !
[14:41] <anew> done
[14:41] <anew> k1l_, 100 irc points for you, can be traded in for a pizza at any time
[14:43] <k1l_> anew: just take a breath in future to reduce the frustration. that keeps other motivated and makes it easier to help :)
[14:44] <bomber> I took out the batter from my laptop. It has now booted to my windows os
[14:45] <bomber> Interesting how removing power is the sole solution to any digital problem
[14:46] <xStark> k1l_: If you remember the keyboard problem I was mentioning a few days ago, I'm glad to tell you that it is solved. The problem was sticky keys. Disabling completely eliminated the problem :P
[14:46] <A124> Parasitic dpkg..
[14:47] <auronandace> xStark: that tells me that you use shift an awful lot in quick succession
[14:47] <xStark> Yeah lol
[14:47] <k1l_> A124: that sort of rants and remarks demotivates other volunteers to help you. please stop that
[14:47] <xStark> the shift key toggled the caps lock, not the caps lock key itself lol
[14:47] <auronandace> xStark: glad you found out what it was, thanks for reporting back
[14:48] <xStark> auronandace: Anytime :P
[14:49] <TJ-> bomber: Laptops often don't lose state from  all components if the battery cannot be physically disconnected
[14:49] <bomber> 👍
[14:49] <alig> i have: Netbook(WiFi) --"ADB CONNECT"-->> (Wi-Fi) Android Wi-Fi hotspot (USB) ---"SSH"----->> (USB) PC
[14:50] <NovaKittyCatMeow> bomber are your bios options not saving?
[14:50] <NovaKittyCatMeow> bomber: or resetting?
[14:51] <alig> i want: Netbook(WiFi) ---->> (Wi-Fi) Android Wi-Fi hotspot (USB) ---"SSH"----->> (USB) PC
[14:51] <sdjaio> I am using ubuntu 14.04, is it possible to return ubuntu's factory settings?
[14:52] <A124> k1l_ What rant or remark?
[14:52] <cfhowlett> sdjaio, on your /home settings, yes.  on system settings, I believe so.
[14:52] <A124> Parasitic dpkg was eating my space.
[14:52] <A124> I found that out. as solution.
[14:52] <A124> It that a rant?
[14:53] <JOW> Hello guys! I wanna connect to a printer here.
[14:53] <JOW> It prints by wifi
[14:53] <JOW> How do I do it?!?!
[14:53] <pbx> JOW, what have you tried?
[14:53] <pbx> JOW, step 1 is to get the printer on your network.
[14:53] <TJ-> JOW: http://localhost:631   is the CUPS admin interface. Your user will need to be in the 'lpadmin' group to add a new network printer
[14:53] <JOW> pbx have tried add a printer and search for it's name
[14:54] <serard> Hello
[14:54] <pavan> t
[14:54] <serard> Anyone is using unison ?
[14:54] <pbx> JOW, is the printer connected to your network?
[14:54] <JOW> I'll enter on localhost:631 pbx TJ-
[14:55] <pbx> JOW, is the printer connected to your network?
[14:55] <k1l_> serard: i bet some do.
[14:55] <sdjaio> cfhowlett, can I remove all install packages configurations etc by runing a command?
[14:55] <cfhowlett> serard, https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[14:55] <JOW> I can print on it when I'm at windows pbx
[14:55] <TJ-> JOW: Auto-discovery depends on a lot of variables which you may not have control of on the network, so you may need to manually provide the Printer's IP address and printing interface protocol
[14:55] <serard> Oups, sorry...
[14:56] <k1l_> serard: basically, unison is 2-way rsync. but what is your issue?
[14:56] <serard> I'm using unison. It quits after sync, but I want it to wait for new changes to re-sync auto. Anyone knows ? Or should I use inotifywait ?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> sdjaio, go into your /home and delete all .hidden files and folders.  note: this is the nuclear option and it WILL remove all settings and  configs you stored.  be sure.  be very sure.  then: logout, login
[14:57] <pbx> JOW, i think this should work: Printers > Add > Network Printer > Find Network Printer... and wait
[14:57] <pbx> at least it worked for both my wifi printers
[14:58] <sdjaio> cfhowlett, I compiled some source files that installed stuffs in directories like /usr/lib/bin etc.
[14:58] <JOW> pbx TJ- I'll need to go now. thank you though. I might come back later
[14:58] <sdjaio> I think I need more than removing /home
[14:58] <cfhowlett> sdjaio, sorry, then.  above my pay  grade
[14:58] <k1l_> serard: i think inotify is the proper way. or you go for a cronjob
[14:59] <serard> ah ok I thought unison would keep on waiting for..
[14:59] <TJ-> sdjaio: if the manually built package used "make install" it should have also "make uninstall"
[14:59] <cfhowlett> sdjaio, iirc there is a dpkg command to reconfigure your entire system
[15:00] <TJ-> sdjaio: if that package over-wrote existing files from Ubuntu packages, you would need to identify the package(s) that own those files and do "apt-get --reinstall install <package>" for each
[15:00] <sdjaio> I guess you don't remember it, right?
[15:00] <serard> thank you k1l_
[15:00] <cfhowlett> sdjaio, http://man.he.net/man8/dpkg-reconfigure
[15:01] <xmj> moin
[15:01] <sdjaio> I guess I will just reformat it
[15:01] <xmj> with mailx, where do i find a list of permissible debug levels?
[15:01] <TJ-> sdjaio: "dpkg --configure -a" will reconfigure all packages (re-write their configs under /etc/) but it won't fix issues with library or other files that have been changed
[15:02] <TJ-> sdjaio: you could run a script against the package file checksums and compare with the installed file checksums, of you're concerned standard installed files have been replaced
[15:03] <EriC^^> !info debsums | sdjaio TJ-
[15:03] <mpriess> How do I know if a kernel version for e.g. 3.17.x contain the fix? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72795#c56
[15:03] <TJ-> EriC^^:  sdjaio That's the one!
[15:04] <xStark> Suspending does cause problems sometimes, right?
[15:04] <auronandace> xStark: it can yes, very model specific though
[15:05] <xStark> auronandace: Hmm yeah. It usually gives me a dialog box with the text "Ubuntu has experienced an internal problem" after resuming from a suspend. Best thing to do is lock.
[15:06] <TJ-> mpriess: check the Changelog for the specific kernel package: e.g. "apt-get changelog linux-image.XXXXXXX"
[15:06] <auronandace> xStark: if you get offered the option to send an error report you could look at the details to see what exactly is going wrong
[15:07] <TJ-> mpriess: We don't have 3.17 being shipped though; 3.13, 3.16, 3.19, 4.2 as far as I recall
[15:08] <NovaKittyCatMeow> i want to make a script that runs some commands as the current user, and some commands as root.  Since using sudo in a script isnt viable, running the whole script with sudo is recommended.  If I do this, how can I run specific commands in the script with my user account without providing a password?  If I use "su -c 'command' username", it doesn't seem to work right...When I use "sudo -u username command" it says
[15:08] <NovaKittyCatMeow> command not found.  I'm trying to make a quick script that will clone source code from git and compile and install it.  I want to be able to change directory and run git as a user, but do the rest as root.
[15:08] <TJ-> xStark: There way me clues as to what caused Supend/Resume issues in "/var/log/kern.log"
[15:09] <geirha> NovaKittyCatMeow: sudo -u username cmd
[15:09] <geirha> oops sorry, missed that part
[15:09] <TJ-> NovaKittyCatMeow: so the only step you'd want 'root' for is "make install" presumably?
[15:10] <geirha> NovaKittyCatMeow: sudo like to override PATH. It can be configured in sudoers (with sudo visudo)
[15:10] <NovaKittyCatMeow> TJ: well its a dkms module so theres 3 lines that need to be run with root or sudo
[15:10] <Guest22972> I have an Ubuntu 14.04 server that runs an old mainframe system that our employees connect to remotely using Telnet. If a remote user loses their connection while they are working in the system they can't get back in unless we change the users ip address that they are getting. This happens when there are power outages or work being done on the providers lines. We have a failover setup that pushes user traffic from our
[15:10] <Guest22972> MPLS network provider to our cable provider. We think the difference in network hops is causing the issue but when I clear the arp table using sudo ip -s -s neigh flush all nothing happens. How can I prevent users not being able to get back in from the ip address that they already have? This also happens to ssh connections, so it's not just telnet.
[15:11] <cfhowlett> !server | Guest22972
[15:12] <TJ-> NovaKittyCatMeow: Well, only 2 really: "dkms add", "dkms install" (does a build if needed). You could add to sudoers a rule to allow your user to run "dkms" without a password
[15:12] <xStark> .
[15:12] <NovaKittyCatMeow> TJ: also depmod -a I believe
[15:12] <NovaKittyCatMeow> TJ: or jsut depmod, as root
[15:13] <alper> salve
[15:13] <erry> hai, i'm trying to compile a program that needs boost libs. I've installed libboost-all-dev, but i still get configure: error: libboost_thread not found
[15:13] <erry> and i can't find libboost_thread with `locate`
[15:13] <erry> any advice?
[15:14] <NovaKittyCatMeow> geirha: so youre suggesting I should edit sudoers and make commands like "cd" and "git" available to sudo, then use sudo -u?
[15:14] <gp5st> in 14.04 is there anyway to install nagios from apt w/o apache? it's pulled in as a secondary dependency, not for the dep on httpd
[15:15] <gp5st> NovaKittyCatMeow: you can't use cd with sudo
[15:15] <JAZ1976> ubottu: I am using the server edition.
[15:16] <gp5st> NovaKittyCatMeow: what issue are you having using sudo with git?
[15:16] <NovaKittyCatMeow> gp5st: thats jsut it..i want to use cd as the user....from a script run with sudo
[15:16] <cfhowlett> !server | JAZ1976
[15:16] <geirha> NovaKittyCatMeow: you cannot run cd with sudo
[15:16] <gp5st> NovaKittyCatMeow: ah, in a script. So, what's the problem you're encountering sudo scriptname?
[15:17] <NovaKittyCatMeow> gp5st: i want to make a script to change to a certain dir, pull code with git, then compile and install it with root...and from what i can tell the best way is to run the script as root
[15:17] <gp5st> geirha: if it's in a script you can, you can't just "sudo cd", though
[15:17] <geirha> ( cd /the/dir && sudo -u username git pull )   # including the parenthesis
[15:18] <gp5st> NovaKittyCatMeow: well, it's not recommended to run more than you need with sudo, is there any reason the script can't just sudo make install (or w/e the installation step is) and have the rest of it run as a normal user?
[15:18] <geirha> NovaKittyCatMeow: or:  sudo -u username sh -c 'cd /the/dir && git pull'
[15:19] <NovaKittyCatMeow> gp5st:from what ive found online I shouldnt try to use sudo within a script
[15:20] <JAZ1976> Any help with my server problem would be great
[15:20] <BlueSky> With what program can i ajust my standard ubntu windows ?
[15:20] <gp5st> NovaKittyCatMeow: why?
[15:20] <pbx> BlueSky, what do you mean by "adjust"?
[15:21] <gp5st> JAZ1976: kind of useless to ask for help if no one knows what the problem is
[15:21] <JAZ1976> I have an Ubuntu 14.04 server that runs an old mainframe system that our employees connect to remotely using Telnet. If a remote user loses their connection while they are working in the system they can't get back in unless we change the users ip address that they are getting. This happens when there are power outages or work being done on the providers lines. We have a failover setup that pushes user traffic from our MPLS
[15:21] <JAZ1976> network provider to our cable provider. We think the difference in network hops is causing the issue but when I clear the arp table using sudo ip -s -s neigh flush all nothing happens. How can I prevent users not being able to get back in from the ip address that they already have? This also happens to ssh connections, so it's not just telnet.
[15:21] <BlueSky> I would like to have another look of the windows
[15:21] <NovaKittyCatMeow> gp5st: i dont know why to be honest, and i havent tried it....but im guessing that perhaps it doesnt work...issuign a command with sudo from within a script.
[15:22] <OerHeks> JAZ1976, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[15:22] <geirha> NovaKittyCatMeow: It does work, but sudo cd doesn't work, since cd is a shell builtin; and would be nonsensical as an external command
[15:23] <k1l_> BlueSky: find a theme that you like and try that
[15:23] <k1l_> !themes | BlueSky
[15:23] <pbx> BlueSky, see Ubuntu Software Center > Themes & Tweaks -- then search for "theme" in the search box
[15:23] <ioria> NovaKittyCatMeow, make a script with #!/bin/bash   sudo apt-get update, made executable  (chmod +x) .... it just will call for the passwd .... but you can cd as normal user ....
[15:23] <JAZ1976> OerHeks: Thanks I'll try there.
[15:23] <BlueSky> thank you ubottu
[15:24] <TJ-> NovaKittyCatMeow: 'dkms install' does depmod so you'd only need 'root' for 'dkms [add|install]'
[15:24] <gp5st> JAZ1976: I've never had an issue where the same ip couldn't reconnect. sorry
[15:24] <NovaKittyCatMeow> geirha gp5st: ok let me try just using sudo in the script and see if that works..and thanks both of you for the assistance
[15:27] <JAZ1976> gp5st: Thanks for getting back to me.
[15:28] <gp5st> if you ssh -vvv to an sshd -vvv do you get any extra info?
[15:28] <gp5st> do you have a firewall system that's freaking out?
[15:29] <Hudsonkem>  after install compiz in xfce, everythin works great, i tried reboot to see if its okay, so okay, but in this morning when i turn on my computer, menubar just disappeared, so, any ideas? (if i set another menubar its work but disappear on reboot)
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Hudsonkem, I assume you installed to xubuntu.  xfce is a desktop environment not an OS.  and quite likely compiz is having a conflict with xfce.
[15:31] <Hudsonkem> cfhowlett, i turn off xfwm4(xfce compositor) to change to compiz
[15:31] <anthonyreineck21> Hi
[15:32] <cfhowlett> Hudsonkem, so it seems that compiz isn't properly triggering the menu bar.  not entirely surprising.  ask #xfce or send a query to the forums/mail lists.
[15:33] <Hudsonkem> cfhowlett, i already waiting feedback,
[15:34] <Hudsonkem> cfhowlett, i have seem using compiz in xubuntu, as well, they got the lucky to do it work properly
[15:34] <anthonyr21322> hi
[15:35] <anthonyreineck21> hi
[15:36] <anthonyr21322> Ds anyone talk here
[15:36] <anthonyr21322> ?
[15:36] <anthonyr21322> Guys?
[15:37] <OerHeks> anthonyr21322, sure, This is ubuntu support.
[15:37] <anthonyr21322> Helloooooo?
[15:37] <cfhowlett> anthonyr21322, this is ubuntu support,not chitchat.
[15:37] <cfhowlett> !ot | anthonyr21322
[15:37] <anthonyr21322> ok
[15:38] <xStark> anthonyr21322: People talk here when support is being provided lol. This isn't a general chat channel.
[15:38] <xStark> Support channel.
[15:55]  * ActionParsnip listens to the wind blow
[15:58] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, and I thought it was just me ...
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: just making sure it was active in here
[16:01] <timbozeman> Hiya! My tv tuner has firm ware that you put in /lib/firmware/"$(uname -r)". When I update the uname -r directory changes and I need to move the firmware. Is there a way to hook into hte update process and automate moving the files?
[16:01] <|TheWolf|> Hi! I was entrusted with updating a 14.04 server. When checking out the environment, I discovered that for some reason the server runs legacy grub. When running apt --installed list, I get the following line: grub-common/trusty,now 2.02~beta2-9 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.3]. Does this mean a simple apt-get upgrade will update to Grub2?
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> |TheWolf|  there's also #ubuntu-server
[16:02] <cfhowlett> |TheWolf|, easy to test: apt-get -s dist-upgrade          will display the incoming packages ... but NOT install a thing.
[16:03] <|TheWolf|> MonkeyDust: sorry, didn't know that
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> timbozeman: you could have a cron job that runs hourly to check the uname -a folder, if they don't exist then copy them in
[16:04] <|TheWolf|> cfhowlett : how is that different to [dist-]upgrade --dry-run?
[16:04] <blah-> how to install gnome 3.18 ?
[16:04] <cfhowlett> |TheWolf|, never used the dry-run so can't answer
[16:04] <|TheWolf|> cfhowlett : ok, thx anyway
[16:05] <k1l_> blah-: depends on the exact ubuntu version
[16:05] <blah-> ubuntu 14.04
[16:05] <marko_> blah- : sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop I think
[16:05] <blah-> i'm using 14.04
[16:06] <k1l_> blah-: get a PPA for that then
[16:06] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[16:06] <blah-> how? :)
[16:06] <blah-> what is the first command?
[16:06] <cfhowlett> ah, sorry.  wrong version.
[16:06] <k1l_> !info gnome-shell trusty
[16:07] <blah-> so anyone can help me? :(
[16:08] <k1l_> seems like gnome 3.18 (released last week or when? ) doesnt mix well with ubuntu 14.04 lts.
[16:08] <k1l_> blah-: find a ppa
[16:09] <k1l_> even in 15.10 its not 3.18 since it was relaeased just after the 15.10 freeze
[16:09] <cfhowlett> !latest | blah-
[16:11] <k1l_> blah-: if you want gnome 3.18 better go for ubuntu 15.04 or ubuntu 15.10. since a install of gnome 3.18 will need to replace that much libs and gnome stuff, it will be not LTS anyway
[16:11] <blah-> but on their site, 15.10 version is not there
[16:12] <blah-> i saw only 15.04
[16:12] <k1l_> because 15.10 is still in development stage
[16:12] <blah-> ahhh so 15.10 still not yet released.
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> blah-: not quite yet, right month though :)
[16:13] <k1l_> blah-: see this answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/681459/how-to-install-gnome-3-18-on-ubuntu
[16:14] <blah-> ok man
[16:14] <k1l_> only solution seems to be a 15.10 with the gnome staging PPA.
[16:14] <blah-> wait..
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> considering the amount of support yu lose, its hardly worth it
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> *you
[16:21] <zamba> how can i shut down networkmanager
[16:21] <zamba> it keeps respawning it if i kill it
[16:22] <MonkehParade> zamba: sudo service network-manager stop ?
[16:22] <k1l_> zamba: why you want it to stop?
[16:23] <MonkehParade> k1l_: I've had that happen with modem manager
[16:23] <MonkehParade> k1l_: modem-manager doesn't have any backports :c
[16:34] <Guest32368> hello, i have  one usb, if i want add one file in usb or delete one file in usb, give me error message "input/output error" how can i repair this fix?
[16:35] <cfhowlett> i/o errors = failing/failed USB.  replace it.
[16:38] <Guest32368> is usb stick what replace?
[16:38] <cfhowlett> Guest32368, your USB is dead or dying.  don't use it.  buy a new one.
[16:38] <Anthaas> Hi guys, question out of frustration here, is it possible to have the touchpad on my laptop not respond to being tapped when typing - I keep typing and then suddenly typing halfway up the page when I accidentally tap it
[16:39] <Guest32368> ok thx
[16:39] <cfhowlett> Anthaas, separate keyboard is a cheap and sane option.
[16:41] <Anthaas> cfhowlett: Yeah, that might work at home, but when I take this laptop everywhere itll be a bit of an issue.
[16:42] <cfhowlett> Anthaas, price to pay for your peace of mind I'd say.  YMMV.
[16:42] <jonathan_> if i install beta 2 of 15.10 now, will i have a regular 15.10 system after it is released (22nd) or will it keep saying that i have a development build?>
[16:43] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | jonathan_
[16:43] <jonathan_> check
[16:43] <Anthaas> cfhowlett: Yeah I guess so. For some reason the "turn touch pad off" button on my keyboard doesn't work since I have installed Ubuntu - I could easily just plug in a mouse which would much more portable otherwise.
[16:44] <cfhowlett> I wen with the dell wireless combo.  nice KB and mouse.
[16:45] <jonathan_> it's just a bit sad that people are usually much faster to send you elsewhere than to provide real answers ;-).
[16:46] <dani_> hi
[16:47] <dani_> ciao
[16:49] <bdiehr> I'm follwing a guide and it assumes there exists the file /etc/init.d/netfs exists but it doesn't. Anyone know how to address this<
[16:49] <k1l_> jonathan_: because people tend to carry on with a trillion of more offtopic question after the first one. and that results in even more discussions then :/
[17:01] <sapan> how to use wireshark
[17:02] <tonyyarusso> sapan: Please don't crosspost in multiple channels.
[17:02] <k1l_> sapan: if you are interested in inspecting your own traffic than you want to look into the documents to get a clue what you are doing there anyway. if you are doing illegal stuff we wont help anyway
[17:03] <MonkehParade> what did I miss?
[17:05] <sapan> i want to know if i am signing in to my email account those who r on my network will they be able to view my paswword
[17:05] <k1l_> sapan: so read the docs and get a clue.
[17:05] <tonyyarusso> If you're using TLS/SSL, no.  If you're not, them and people outside of your network too.
[17:06] <ianhulett> Is this my computers hostname... ianhulett@atheistspacepirate
[17:06] <ianhulett> ?
[17:06] <ianhulett> Example that is?
[17:06] <jilocasin0> afternoon all
[17:06] <ianhulett> Just trying to double check...
[17:07] <k1l_> ianhulett: is it the propmt in the terminal?
[17:07] <jilocasin0> can anyone point me to the place where the network setting set by the GUI are stored?
[17:07] <ianhulett> Yeah...
[17:07] <ianhulett> So it's my hostname?
[17:07] <k1l_> ianhulett: yes
[17:07] <ianhulett> kk... wasn't 100% sure, so just had to double check.
[17:10] <sapan> i want to access my office website  from home which is protected
[17:11] <julian-delphiki> sapan: Is there a question you have.
[17:12] <sapan> how to access the website which is protected or
[17:12] <redixin> hi all. did you tried to "apt-get install pythno3-dev" on recent cloud images?
[17:12] <julian-delphiki> sapan: Explain what 'protected' means. Keep in mind this is an ubuntu support channel, not a general help with computer channel
[17:13] <sapan> when ever i type the website name it shows  error
[17:13] <redixin> got this error: python3.4-dev : Depends: python3.4 (= 3.4.0-2ubuntu1.1) but 3.4.3-1ubuntu1~14.04.1 is to be installed
[17:13] <julian-delphiki> sapan: what error.
[17:14] <sapan> webpage cannot be displayed
[17:14] <sapan> this error
[17:15] <k1l_> sapan: talk to the IT department then
[17:15] <julian-delphiki> sapan: this doesn't sound like a problem with your ubuntu installation
[17:15] <sapan> thanks brothers
[17:16] <redixin> how this can be possible? "python3.4 (= 3.4.0-2ubuntu1.1) but 3.4.3-1ubuntu1~14.04.1 is to be installed"
[17:16] <redixin> is there something wrong with mirrors?
[17:17] <k1l_> redixin: run a "sudo apt update"?
[17:17] <redixin> k1l_, i tried
[17:22] <redixin> i removed python3.4 and now can't install it
[17:22] <redixin> cloud images seems broken
[17:23] <Useri> ciao
[17:23] <justme_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12698221/
[17:24] <soman> [deb packaging] Why I get warning thant 'non-empty dir /usr/local/ won't be removed' when remove my package? How can I create package not to remove those directory?
[17:24] <julian-delphiki> redixin: what does 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python3.4" give you.
[17:24] <redixin> julian-delphiki, http://dpaste.com/33NJ8GH
[17:25] <justme_> any help with this please  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12698221/
[17:26] <k1l_> redixin: what does "sudo apt full-upgrade" give you? please pastebin
[17:26] <julian-delphiki> redixin: or `sudo dpkg --configure -a`
[17:26] <justme_> WHAT IS dpkg ?
[17:26] <redixin> julian-delphiki, http://dpaste.com/1S2M8V4
[17:26] <julian-delphiki> justme_: it's for installing .debs
[17:27] <redixin> julian-delphiki, dpkg --configure -a shows nothing
[17:27] <julian-delphiki> redixin: can you pastebin the output of `dpkg --get-selections | grep hold` then
[17:27] <redixin> julian-delphiki, it empty
[17:27] <julian-delphiki> oh, try an `apt-get autoremove` redixin
[17:28] <justme_> julian-delphiki ; i keep getting an error when i do  sudo dpkg --configure -a  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12698221/
[17:28] <redixin> julian-delphiki, i tried it too
[17:28] <k1l_> redixin: comment the trusty-updates repo out of the sources.list.
[17:28] <julian-delphiki> justme_: that looks like something with a /dev/sdb harddrive is messed up
[17:29] <justme_> julian-delphiki ; what should i do , and what are the risks ?
[17:29] <redixin> julian-delphiki, it was commented out previously, and it was the same.
[17:29] <k1l_> redixin: there was a security update on so that seems to interfer with the regulkar package
[17:30] <justme_> julian-delphiki ; could it be caused because i used the testdisk recovery program on the harddrive from the same computer ?
[17:31] <julian-delphiki> justme_: probably. I'd reboot if you can...
[17:31] <redixin> k1l_, I saw that changelog, and suggest it too, but how can it be fixed?
[17:31] <justme_> julian-delphiki ; i just did an analyse thats all , no deleting  ..
[17:31] <theseb> anyone tried to install wine on 14.04? i got a hellish mess of package conflicts
[17:31] <julian-delphiki> Okay, justme_.
[17:32] <k1l_> redixin: file a bug
[17:32] <julian-delphiki> theseb: did you apt-get update first.
[17:32] <k1l_> !bug | redixin
[17:32] <justme_> julian-delphiki : I did a reboot before
[17:32] <julian-delphiki> justme_: okay, but your output looks like /dev/sdb is what's causing the issues.
[17:32] <julian-delphiki> so remove it.
[17:32] <justme_> julian-delphiki ; are you sure it's not a  hardware problem ?
[17:33] <redixin> k1l_, thanks
[17:33] <julian-delphiki> justme_: no sir. I'm not sure of that. All I can be sure of is that it says you have issues with /dev/sdb
[17:33] <freeroute> hi, if I have a suggestion for software to be included into the main repos, where do I have to go?
[17:33] <justme_> julian-delphiki ; what kind of issue how can i identify it please
[17:34] <julian-delphiki> justme_: It just says FATAL and something regarding /dev/sdb. I can't help with that.
[17:35] <Abe> hello, how was that sudo update grub command?
[17:35] <justme_> julian-delphiki ; i see , thx
[17:35] <bazhang> uodate-grub
[17:36] <bazhang> p not o
[17:36] <Abe> thx
[17:36] <mkanyicy> hi guys is this the correct channel to ask about ubuntu 15.10 beta issues?
[17:36] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 mkanyicy
[17:37] <pmaxk> hi to all
[17:37] <Ru_Lingu> hey
[17:37] <Ru_Lingu> I'm new to ubuntu, linux in general and was hoping if someone could help me out on dual monitor issue?
[17:38] <bazhang> Ru_Lingu, using xrandr ?
[17:39] <bazhang> !info arandr
[17:39] <Ru_Lingu> bazhang: Just did that. Thing is, soon as I plug in my 2nd monitor, both screens black out and there's a beep sound.
[17:42] <boolean> afternoon
[17:42] <Ru_Lingu> boolean: afternoon
[17:42] <boolean> i am having issues with buildpacks
[17:42] <boolean> woops wrong channel :P
[17:42] <boolean> sorry about that
[17:43] <maddawg4> dont you "afternoon" me mister
[17:43] <DJOnes> boolean: Don't worry about it, this happens
[17:43] <xela2244> hi, when i try to change applications icons, from /usr/share/applications; after i logout or reboot i always have a black screen and i have to rm .config,.cache ther that i don't remember. Help
[17:43] <maddawg4> no he was off-topic and should be banned
[17:44] <xela2244> other not ther
[17:44] <boolean> maddawg4 ?
[17:44] <xela2244> i'm using kubuntu 15.04, but i know tha ubuntu users have this problem too
[17:48] <Ru_Lingu> brb
[17:49] <thell> Anyone happen to know what "if not cup" means in reference to "tput"? ie: tput ll, last line, first column (if no cup)
[17:58] <ioria> thell, http://www.risharde.com/journal/tput-color-commands-bash-text-color.html       coul help
[17:58]  * thell checks it out
[17:59] <ioria> thell, tput ll # Move to last line, first column (if no cup)     i use tput for colorizing a script output
[18:00] <pmaxk> thell : can you give the script..??
[18:00] <thell> ioria: but what does "if no cup" mean? When I issue a tput ll I don't go to the last line
[18:00] <lubarch> vm.swappiness=1 or vm.swappiness=5 which one would be better option?
[18:01] <thell> pmaxk: I'm simply testing in the console using printf
[18:01] <pmaxk> lubarch : depence of ram you have
[18:02] <pmaxk> thell python?
[18:02] <thell> ie: tput cuu 3 0 && printf "HERE" && tput ll   # This just leaves me at 3
[18:02] <thell> pmaxk: just shell, testing with both bash and dash
[18:02] <lubarch> i have 4 gb ddr3
[18:02] <lubarch> pmaxk: i have 4 gb ddr3
[18:03] <jaska__> what this means: An upgrade from 'trusty' to 'vivid' is not supported with this tool
[18:04] <k1l_> jaska__: you cant upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04. you need to upgrade to 14.10 before
[18:05] <jaska__> but i cant. software updater ony alow to update 15.04
[18:05] <jaska__> is this some kinda bug?
[18:06] <OerHeks> software updater does not allow that. if you really want to upgrade to 15.04, you will need the old-releases trick.
[18:06] <k1l_> what command do you use? what is the release-prompt set to?
[18:06] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[18:06] <OerHeks> as 14.10 is EOl
[18:07] <OerHeks> i would do a fresh instal, much much faster
[18:07] <dxt_> Hi there, I need a VPN service, CIHNA TO WORLD
[18:07] <dxt_> ANY Suggestions?
[18:09] <OerHeks> dxt_, ask in ##linux or simular, this is ubuntu support strictly
[18:14] <arthur-dent> Hello?
[18:14] <jaska__> hi
[18:16] <XxHardXtremexX> arthur-dent: Hi ;)
[18:16] <garlaxx> hi
[18:17] <arthur-dent> Ah, good! Managed to log in!
[18:18] <arthur-dent> Does anybody know why the #ubuntu-gnome channel seems to always be empty?
[18:19] <jaska__> nope
[18:20] <arthur-dent> I guess it must be this time of year, as Ubuntu 15.10 is nearly here, so I guess the developers are busy building packages and not logging into IRC channels.
[18:26] <sudormrf> hello all.  I am trying to figure out why my plymouth theme changed from the Gnome style (grey window with the foot icon) to an orange window with a bar that bounces back and forth.  I prefer the gnome style. any way to revert it?
[18:26] <sudormrf> To my recollection I have done nothing specific to the plymouth theme to cause this to change myself
[18:27] <otherme> how can i write a file that runs these commands http://paste.ubuntu.com/12698601/  once i exucute it in ubuntu  ?
[18:28] <Unkown> whats the word?
[18:28] <otherme> any idea ?
[18:28] <sudormrf> nm
[18:28] <sudormrf> solved
[18:28] <otherme> #linux
[18:28] <sudormrf> it switched to numix.
[18:29] <sudormrf> used update-alternatives to fix it
[18:29] <sudormrf> yay
[18:29] <Pici> otherme: you literally put those commands in a file and then execute it.
[18:29] <SubCool> asking here first, every time i try to install lts in a vbox, it crashes. WHy?
[18:29] <Unkown> logic
[18:29] <otherme> Pici : i did that it didnt put my wlan0 in monitor mode ?
[18:30] <Pici> otherme: if you run those commands outside of the file, does it work?
[18:30] <Unkown> are you doing 32 64 bit thing right
[18:30] <otherme> <Pici ; yes it does but i dont want to do it every time
[18:31] <Pici> otherme: did you run them with sudo?
 are you trying aircrack;
[18:31] <otherme> pmaxk ; no
[18:31] <otherme> pmaxk ; wireshark ,wiredump
[18:32] <pmaxk> ok...wait
[18:32] <otherme> Pici> ;any idea ?
[18:33] <otherme> pmaxk ; i means tshark the command line version of wireshark
[18:33] <Pici> otherme: if you ran your commands with sudo, you'll need to run your script with sudo as well.
[18:33] <otherme> i meant*
[18:36] <pmaxk> otherme ??
[18:36] <otherme_> great ! it worked
[18:37] <otherme_> Pici  ; but it asks me for the password  , can i automate that as well ?
[18:38] <Pici> otherme_: you can add a NOPASSWD directive in your sudoers file for that command.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers#Common_Tasks  (just be sure to edit the file with visudo)
[18:48] <jaska__> i cant install gnome shell
[18:48] <jaska__> i cant install gnome shell
[18:48] <bazhang> using what command jaska__
[18:48] <saptech> hello all
[18:48] <jaska__> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[18:48] <DWSR> Hi all, I would like to remove a metapackage and all packages it depends on in 14.04. How can I do this?
[18:49] <bazhang> whats the error jaska__
[18:49] <jaska__> Problems can not be repaired , broken packages upheld
[18:49] <tijn_> nick Tinux
[18:49] <saptech> thinking of installing ubuntu with unity. I currently run Mageia 5 with Mate. What programs does unity have for file manager, archive manager etc?
[18:49] <tijn_> err
[18:49] <tijn_> dumbass :D
[18:51] <jaska__> E: Problems can not be repaired , broken packages upheld
[18:51] <jaska__> what this means: Problems can not be repaired , broken packages upheld
[18:52] <saptech> jaska__, sounds like it has broken packages that can not be repaired at this time
[18:52] <saptech> wait awhile, I assume, and they should be fixed
[18:54] <jaska__> is there any way fix this?
[18:54] <durka42> hi, I'm trying to set up my computer to broadcast its own wifi network (infrastructure mode). it used to work, but now it times out when I try to activate it. (other wifi networks work.) does anyone want to take a look at my network config file?
[18:55] <saptech> jaska__, when I run debian and have this issue, I would just wait until debian fix it
[18:55] <teward> saptech: he left
[18:55] <saptech> ha
[18:55] <Pici>    /70
[18:55] <wakeatnight> hi i have installed a mainline lowlatency kernel (4.0) on ubuntu 15.04.. now software updater wants me to `update` the 3.19 kernel. should i do that and will i have to change grub afterwards to default boot into mainline?
[18:55] <shamuraix_89> Hopeing this is a simple question, how hard would it be to move my home directory to a new partition.
[18:56] <DWSR> Hi all, I would like to remove a metapackage and all packages it depends on in 14.04. How can I do this?
[18:56] <bazhang> !home | shamuraix_89
[18:56] <bazhang> DWSR, which one
[18:56] <DWSR> lubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-core
[18:56] <bazhang> !puregnome
[18:56] <bazhang> DWSR, ^
[18:57] <DWSR> bazhang: Only listed for 12.04.
[18:57] <DWSR> Or 12.10
[18:59] <Kivi> I ran an app in my terminal, and it segfaulted and coredumped. where can I find this core dump?
[19:00] <netcrime> Were I can find Dash on ubuntu-mate
[19:00] <netcrime> Or how to search for programs
[19:01] <Kivi> I ran an app in my terminal, and it segfaulted and coredumped. where can I find this core dump?
[19:02] <Pici> Kivi: did you look in /var/crash/ ?
[19:02] <Kivi> will try, thanks
[19:08] <Kivi> Pici, mmmm I don't think its there.
[19:15] <otherme> is there a way to specify video quality with mpv command line am trying to play youtube from mpv  ?
[19:16] <otherme> fore instense i want to watch in 720p resolution can i specify that with mpv command ?
[19:16] <linocisco> what is the best free ERP software
[19:16] <linocisco> ?
[19:17] <linocisco> what opensource free ERP software is being mostly used for production?
[19:19] <otherme> Any idea ?
[19:19] <linocisco> what opensource free ERP software is being mostly used for production?
[19:20] <bekks> linocisco: Whats your actual question behind that poll?
[19:20] <bazhang> apt-cache search erp  linocisco
[19:20] <bazhang> linocisco, if just polling to the offtopic channel
[19:21] <linocisco> bekks, I dont wanna be stuck in the middle of business
[19:21] <bekks> linocisco: I dont see how a poll will safe you from that.
[19:27] <tomek_> hi
[19:27] <Amber_> Hello, everyone
[19:27] <Amber_> Do you know how do I make AverTV volar S work on Linux?
[19:28] <tomek_> who can help me ? I need to move buttons maximize minimize etc from left to right?
[19:33] <OerHeks> tomek_, 1. install dconf 2. see this post, look at the ':' in front of ':minimize,maximize,close' >>> http://www.sudo-juice.com/move-minimize-maximize-and-close-buttons-ubuntu/
[19:33] <OerHeks> move it to the end, or viseversa
[19:34] <OerHeks> 3. restart browser
[19:41] <tomek_> dont work - empty output
[19:44] <OerHeks> tomek_, oh, works here fine, chrome has close,minimize,maximize:menu
[19:46] <bprompt> tomek_:      hmm, depends on your window manager, I use lxde and it has its settings under "openbox configuration manager > appearance", same goes for say kwin, you can from the system settings as well
[19:49] <Technicus> Hello, how do I start and connect to a vnc server from one machine to another?
[19:50] <Tripp> hi
[19:50] <auronandace> !vnc | Technicus
[19:51] <Tripp> uhm can anyone help me with a problem with triple buffering on ubuntu?
[19:51] <Tripp> im new to linux and I'm pretty freaking lost to be honest
[19:51] <k1l_> !details | Tripp
[19:52] <Tripp> I want to enable triple buffering as I'm suffering cursor lag on some games
[19:52] <Tripp> I'm using an amd radeon graphic card, and I have instaled the catalyst control center
[19:53] <Tripp> there is no option to enable the triple buffering there, and the internet told me to use the xorg.conf archive, but it does not exist, nor I can create it through X -configure
[19:53] <Ben64> Tripp: explain what you mean by cursor lag
[19:53] <Tripp> the main reason being that there seems to be a problem with my console mode, as I get a black screen, but I have also read that using xorg is not that good of an idea, so I'm back to the beginning
[19:54] <Tripp> I move the mouse, and the cursor takes a bit to follow
[19:54] <Tripp> enough to make a gathering game like hafen unplayable
[19:54] <Ben64> triple buffering will make it worse
[19:54] <Tripp> I have been told the opposite, that it's used exactly for that
[19:55] <Ben64> it adds an extra frame of buffer, so you'd have an additional frame delay
[19:55] <Tripp> well then I don't know what can I do to solve it
[19:55] <Ben64> maybe the game has mouse acceleration on
[19:55] <Tripp> I do know that back when I have windows 8.1 I had  no problem with it
[19:55] <Ben64> or your system does
[19:56] <Tripp> uhm the game has no such option, as there was no problem back on windows
[19:56] <Tripp> I'm using the same hardware, different so
[19:56] <Tripp> disabling mouse acceleration should solve the issue?
[19:56] <Ben64> it might
[19:56] <neurochrome> is there any way to have the full application name displayed in the top panel?
[19:57] <Tripp> uhm, I should see to it, thanks
[19:58] <neurochrome> also, why did canonical remove jockey?  It was super easy and user friendly!  I love the terminal, but having to install nvidia drivers from the terminal, instead of using jockey is not a step forward in terms of usability!  "Linux for human beings" seems to have gone out the window
[19:58] <Ben64> neurochrome: there still is a nice friendly way to install it
[19:58] <auronandace> neurochrome: the additional drivers gui is still there
[19:59] <neurochrome> whereabouts?
[19:59] <neurochrome> oh
[19:59] <neurochrome> derp
[19:59] <neurochrome> I'll get my coat ;)
[19:59] <neurochrome> I've been stuck on 12.04 for quite a while... i feel lost
[19:59] <neurochrome> no synapse either :(
[20:00] <auronandace> neurochrome: synapse?
[20:00] <neurochrome> it's like quicksilver
[20:00] <neurochrome> gnome-do, etc
[20:01] <neurochrome> anyhow, i can't seem to see any way of setting the app name to show in full when the global menu is in use.  I hate the way it fades out and cuts off
[20:02] <neurochrome> I've been waiting for "always on" global menus for over 3 years though, so it's nice to see that make a show
[20:02] <auronandace> neurochrome: you're using gnome-shell?
[20:03] <neurochrome> no, unity
[20:03] <auronandace> neurochrome: there is the unity-tweak-tool in the repo
[20:04] <neurochrome> I'm actually trying out ubuntu again after leaving the flock many years ago.  I need decent scaling for my new 4k monitor and unity seems like a good option
[20:04] <neurochrome> I've been using pantheon and elementaryos for a long time now
[20:04] <neurochrome> auronandace, does that have this option?
[20:04] <neurochrome> to display the full app name
[20:04] <neurochrome> ?
[20:05] <auronandace> neurochrome: it has many options, i've only required it to add more workspaces
[20:05] <neurochrome> thanks, I'll give it a whirl and see what it offers
[20:09] <FuSeS_> sup l adies
[20:09] <FuSeS_> ladies*
[20:12] <FuSeS_> anyone alive?
[20:13] <Finale> aye
[20:13] <FuSeS_> :)
[20:13] <FuSeS_> good place to start learning c++?
[20:14] <FuSeS_> for a beginner
[20:14] <Finale> is it like "is this a good place?" or "what is a good place?" ? :)
[20:16] <FuSeS_> more like a good place to start learning
[20:16] <FuSeS_> figured id join a chat and ask the cumminty and also search on my own
[20:16] <auronandace> !alis | FuSeS_
[20:17] <kalafior> hello
[20:17] <FuSeS_> community*
[20:18] <OerHeks> FuSeS_, try ##c++ or ##c++basic or ##c++help
[20:19] <FuSeS_> Thanks will do!
[20:25] <jreezy> hey, i'm trying to start a jack server, and i'm getting DBus exception: org.jackaudio.Error.Generic: Failed to open server,  any ideas?
[20:27] <humberto121> hola
[20:28] <pbx> jreezy, they don't seem to have an irc channel but they do have mailing lists: https://github.com/jackaudio/jackaudio.github.com/wiki/MailingLists
[20:29] <wakeatnight> hi i run a mainline kernel
[20:29] <wakeatnight> ubuntu software update wants to update the old 3.19
[20:29] <k1l_> remove linux-generic then
[20:29] <wakeatnight> if i do that, will i have to set the mainline as default for grub again?
[20:30] <jreezy> ok thanks @pbx
[20:30] <wakeatnight> how do you mean k1l_ ?
[20:30] <k1l_> if you run another kernel anyway remove the meta package that installs the original kernel
[20:31] <neoaf> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/libmarblewidget-qt5-22 is it available on ubuntu 14.04
[20:32] <neoaf> I do apt-get install libmarblewidget-qt5-22, it can't find it
[20:32] <neoaf> (I did apt-get update before)
[20:32] <k1l_> neoaf: no
[20:32] <neoaf> kll_ I type marble-qt on terminal, it outputs "marble-qt: error while loading shared libraries: libmarblewidget-qt5.so.22: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[20:32] <neoaf> how do I get that library
[20:35] <echostar777> does anyone know how to fix an audio issue im having?
[20:35] <k1l_> neoaf: hmm. is that marble from a ppa or 3rd party package?
[20:35] <auronandace> echostar777: only way to find out is describe your issue
[20:35] <neoaf> I don't know, nobody replies at #marble
[20:36] <neoaf> can I install that package on 14.04?
[20:36] <neoaf> if I use dpkg -i .deb?
[20:36] <k1l_> neoaf: did you install a ppa or 3rd party package?
[20:36] <k1l_> neoaf: that sounds like you used a 15.04 or 15.10 package, right?
[20:37] <echostar777> alright so my problem is starting from the sound card. for some odd reason its not showing up at all.
[20:37] <neoaf> it says wily, I don't know what version it is
[20:37] <OerHeks> neoaf, according to this page, http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/marble  this 'marble' uses libmarblewidget18
[20:37] <OerHeks> no QT5
[20:38] <neoaf> I don't know my it complains about qt5-22. I installed 18 pne
[20:38] <k1l_> neoaf: well, you cant mix the packages. like 15.04 uses kde5.
[20:39] <k1l_> neoaf: wily is 15.10
[20:39] <auronandace> neoaf: you'll very likely run into dependencyissues that way
[20:39] <auronandace> neoaf: that is why package managers and repos exist
[20:39] <k1l_> neoaf: so you installed a wrong package (even a beta package) onto the 14.04.
[20:39] <neoaf> I checked that I have all dependt packages
[20:40] <k1l_> neoaf: no you dont.
[20:41] <echostar777> im having issues with my sound. ubuntu studio isnt seeing my 1.4 internal realtek sound card.
[20:42] <auronandace> !sound | echostar777
[20:42] <root_explorer> what up
[20:43] <neoaf> yes it gets dependcy problem
[20:43] <echostar777> auronandace can you assist?
[20:43] <auronandace> echostar777: not sure what's up with ubottu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[20:43] <k1l_> neoaf: ok: dont install 15.10 packages into 14.04. then you dont have depency problems
[20:44] <neoaf> I follow the instructions on https://marble.kde.org/sources.php at two PC that has 14.04
[20:44] <neoaf> one works fine, the other one gets libmarblewidget-qt5.so.22: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory error
[20:45] <neoaf> hmm actually it has 15.04
[20:45] <neoaf> how can I upgrade 14.04 to 15.04?
[20:46] <OerHeks> neoaf, if you really want to upgrade 14.04 > 14.10 (EOL) >  15.04, you will need the old-releases trick. see !eolupgrade
[20:46] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[20:47] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[20:47] <k1l_> neoaf: better ask in #kubuntu since they know better about the kde stuff
[20:49] <neoaf> ahh I will just prepare a usb stick and install
[20:49] <neoaf> 15
[20:50] <bprompt> hmm
[20:50] <bprompt> neoaf:     dunno, I do run marble, but I'm on 12.04, runs fine here, dunno on 14.04 issues though
[20:52] <dupolas_> i think i screwed up my package manager when trying to install boost.... any help appreciated.. this is what I get back now: http://paste.linux.chat/view/5c568a41
[20:54] <Gibranvl> I can't to install my wireless drivers RT5390 RALINK in my ubuntu 14.04
[20:56] <k1l_> bprompt: he installed some 3rd party packge which cant resolve the depencies because its not a ubuntu one
[20:56] <bprompt> I see
[20:56] <k1l_> dupolas_: lsb_release -d gives you what?
[20:58] <dupolas_> k1l_: Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[20:58] <OerHeks> dupolas_, current is 1.48 > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/libboost-dev
[20:59] <k1l_> that PPA is interfering there
[21:00] <dupolas_> k1l_ / OerHeks: anything I can do about that (ubuntu still not native to me :) )
[21:01] <k1l_> dupolas_: i suggest you get rid of that PPA with ppa-purge and start with using the official ubuntu version
[21:01] <k1l_> !ppapurge | dupolas_
[21:02] <k1l_> sudo ppa-purge ppa:boost-latest/ppa
[21:04] <Qemu> Hey, I was wondering how much of an effor it would be to remove a network driver and replace it with one from the manufacturerer with the caveat that it does not support the linux kernel above 3.6? or is that not even possible.
[21:05] <dupolas_> k1l_: I think I am screwed, cause I can't get to apt-get install ppa-purge, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12699433/
[21:06] <dupolas_> (back in a sec)
[21:18] <kuindios> good, to install programs without using "terminal"  I recommend an application? Ubuntu 14.04
[21:18] <dupolas_> (yes back)
[21:18] <OerHeks> kuindios, softwarecenter, or install synaptic
[21:20] <OerHeks> softwarecenter = that orange bag with a white A on it, on your panel
[21:20] <kuindios> OerHeks: Double-click an application
[21:20] <OerHeks> kuindios, ?
[21:21] <kuindios> example: seek.run applications
[21:21] <dupolas_> k1l_: how did you know btw the ppa:boost-latest/ppa ?
[21:22] <roggo> how do you run a .run file?
[21:22] <kuindios> to install programs without using "terminal"  I recommend an application? Double-click an application
[21:22] <k1l_> dupolas_: i looked up which ppa includes that specific pacakge
[21:22] <OerHeks> kuindios, the Ubuntu way is apt://<packagename>
[21:23] <dupolas_> k1l_ : aha... I see... any idea how to get ppa-purge installed with apt-get install throwing errors at me?
[21:23] <k1l_> dupolas_: well. you could try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[21:24] <kuindios> I want to install any application just double click
[21:25] <OerHeks> kuindios, use softwarecenter :-)
[21:25] <dupolas_> k1l_: that gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/12699527/
[21:25] <k1l_> kuindios: can you give more informations?
[21:25] <roggo> i installed a newer version of qt, how do i change the version that is used if you write qtcreator in the shell?
[21:26] <wileee> kuindios, apt has it's advantages, when you install you see what is actually going on including dependencies, and when it is over, a bit more in some ways.
[21:26] <k1l_> dupolas_: sudo apt-get remove libboost
[21:27] <roggo> how do I uninstall qt?
[21:27] <roggo> if i installed it with apt-get
[21:27] <dupolas_> k1l_: seems I have a serious dependency issue going on :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/12699541/
[21:28] <k1l_> roggo: sudo apt-get remove -package-
[21:29] <dontgo2sleep> hello everybody
[21:29] <kuindios> as installed ".sh" unused terminal
[21:30] <zykotick9> roggo: fyi, to remove config files as well "sudo apt-get purge foo"
[21:30] <kalafior> dupolas, sudo apt-get remove --purge package_name
[21:30] <zykotick9> kalafior: save some typing, see my suggestion above ;)
[21:31] <Guest5637> who's going to be the first to get ubuntu running on the new ms surface?
[21:31] <dupolas_> kalafior: that still gives me the unmet dependencies list :(
[21:31] <aotea> Heya! So, friend tasked me in making a package out of some binaries, dpkg --build did it's jazz and I didn't get any errors. Ran "apt-get install -f" followed by install the recently made .deb file. How do I find where the program installed to and how do I now run it :P?
[21:32] <wileee> Guest5637, might be #ubuntu-offtopic issue, here is support.
[21:32] <k1l_> dupolas_: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[21:32] <dupolas_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12699567/
[21:32] <skwishy> ok, so I want to buy a new ms surface, and run ubuntu, anyone got any tips abut where to start?
[21:33] <wileee> aotea, name the install and what you did the best you can to the channel.
[21:33] <echostar777_> a tip for you, good luck.
[21:33] <wileee> skwishy, Look online the models that run linux/ubuntu first.
[21:34] <wileee> or will run that is
[21:34] <Amber__> Guys, do you know how I can install an AverTV Volar S on Ubuntu?
[21:34] <k1l_> dupolas_: ok, use the system-settings, software and updates, 2nd tab, to disable the boost ppa.
[21:34] <bprompt> aotea:    did you say it made a .deb?
[21:35] <bprompt> aotea:   if you have a .deb from the compiled package, you could just do a -> dpkg -c FILENAME.deb <-- to see what files and where it installed
[21:36] <dupolas_> k1l_: terminal alternative available for that too maybe? (have to dig for some mouse/keyboards to get to my nuc and tv :) )
[21:37] <wileee> skwishy, If you find the model you need, get it and have problems we will help. We will see websites needing any special install instructs if there mis no load and run available.
[21:37] <k1l_> dupolas_: erm wait, i cant remember if that is the right way for 12.04. if not use a "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/boost-latest-ppa-precise.list" and make a # in front of the repo there. then ctrl+o, ctrl+x
[21:37] <echostar777_> just filed a bug report on the no audio issue. is their anything else i can do to fix the no audio driver issue or do i just wait for the developers to fix it?
[21:37] <wileee> is*
[21:37] <k1l_> dupolas_: after that: sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:38] <aotea> bprompt: Yes it made a .deb. And I ran apt-get to install it using "apt-get install -f" and "apt-get install myprog"
[21:38] <dupolas_> k1l_ gonna try tnx
[21:38] <bprompt> aotea:   k, then  just do a "dpkg -c" on it then
[21:40] <aotea> bprompt: don't think it does, that only displays the file tree I used to create the darn thing :P
[21:41] <aotea> bprompt: http://pastie.org/10464924
[21:41] <aotea> bprompt: Made .sh of how I made the .deb if that matters, the rest I already told you
[21:43] <dupolas_> k1l_: unfortunately http://paste.ubuntu.com/12699618/
[21:43] <TJ-> aotea: installing a package.deb file requires "dpkg -i package.deb". "apt-get install" will install from the repositories listed in the apt sources.list
[21:43] <k1l_> dupolas_: sudo apt-get purge libboost1.55-tools-dev
[21:44] <aotea> TJ-: ok sorry, I forgot to mention that part, but yes that happened before the apt-gets
[21:44] <TJ-> aotea: "apt-cache policy package" will tell which versions are installed/available
[21:44] <bprompt> aotea:   hmmm dpkg -c works for me :/
[21:44] <TJ-> aotea: Then "dpkg -L package" will list the installed files
[21:45] <dupolas_> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12699635/
[21:46] <TJ-> aotea: your shell script doesn't appear to create "debian/changelog" (which contains the version info)
[21:48] <aotea> TJ-: can it be that I failed at .deb format, my .deb is got some capital letters in it. Just remember the 'guide' telling me .deb usually keeps it lowercase all the way
[21:49] <TJ-> aotea: I'd think a missing debian/changelog is going to cause some issues because the version declared there is used in building and naming the .deb file
[21:50] <aotea> TJ-: Seeing as when I try running "dpkg -L Package" I get "package is not installed". Wouldn't that have thrown me errors when trying to build?
[21:51] <TJ-> aotea: "dpkg-deb --raw-extract <archive> <directory>" will extract both trees (DEBIAN and file-system) from a .deb
[21:51] <TJ-> aotea: if 'dpkg -L'  can't see the package that suggests 'dpkg -i' failed.
[21:53] <aotea> TJ-: seems odd as I'm positive 'apt-get -f' and 'install' told me things happened. Need to scoll my history some.
[21:54] <TJ-> aotea: check out the resources at http://packaging.ubuntu.com/
[21:54] <k1l> aotea: see /var/log/apt logs
[21:55] <TJ-> aotea: the Debian guide is probably the best resource: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.en.html
[21:57] <major> soir
[22:01] <patsToms> someone know what ddt is in/
[22:02] <patsToms> I mean in udp protocol
[22:04] <linuxr> Hi all, in my syslog I see lines like this: "Request for unknown module key 'Magrathea: Glacier signing key:" ... what does that mean? What is this magrathea thing? thanks
[22:05] <aotea> TJ-: Thanks for your patience :) I just realized I'm an utter idiot, apparently ran "cp NonExistingFile CopyOfNonExistingFile" and everything ran smooth on absolutely nothing! Now I actually get some real errors to try and figure out. Thanks again
[22:06] <dupolas_> k1l_: unfortunately http://paste.ubuntu.com/12699635/
[22:07] <wileee> linuxr, Found this, has been fixed you updated? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1253155
[22:09] <linuxr> wileee, yes I already found that, but I don't understand what it means..especially not what this "glacier" thing is.... any ideas?
[22:09] <ratrace> Can someone point me to some reading material on how network manager and resolvconf are working together on 15.04? I have two DNS servers set by explicit IPs in the connection, but /etc/resolv.conf is showing 127.0.1.1, the ip on which dnsmasq is listening, but I find no config for it. though it appears my DNS ips are in effect.
[22:10] <wileee> linuxr, If you look with the whole error on the web you will know what I do, and probably what most here will know, research is probably the tool needed to get an exact info, beyond fixed.
[22:10] <wileee> any*
[22:10] <ratrace> looks like magic! :)  and I hate that and would like to know how does the os know where to resolv names since the dns servers are not listed in /etc/resolv.conf
[22:13] <Twirl> anyone knows how to make ubuntu remember the volume i had before shutting down? every time i turn on the computer its back at 100% and its annoying af
[22:15] <wileee> Twirl, Give the channel the release and desktop to start with.
[22:15] <Twirl> wileee: what?
[22:15] <Lildirt> So, I'm trying to set up a VNC connection (using vnc4server). I can connect to it fine, but for some reason I only see https://gyazo.com/dc8dc205761f3fc5a7cbf7875ba795e8 when I actually connect. Does anyone have any idea?
[22:16] <wileee> Twirl, for example 14.04 with unity which is ubuntu or another desktop.
[22:16] <Twirl> wileee: i dont understand what you want me to do, im on ubuntu 15.04
[22:17] <wileee> Twirl, That is the most basic info needed here generally, as a heads up details are my point for the channel, if you can of course, we will work with you. ;)
[22:18] <Twirl> wileee: i'm on ubuntu 15.04
[22:18] <OerHeks> Twirl, mabe this answer is still valid http://askubuntu.com/questions/69764/how-can-i-permanently-set-the-master-volume-level
[22:18] <Finale> Twirl: I'm pretty sure pulse audio control thingie does that. it's been a while though
[22:18] <wileee> Twirl, Cool, there is help now, good luck, should be fixable.
[22:18] <Twirl> Finale: yea i pretty much hate pulse audio it eats CPU like crazy
[22:19] <OerHeks> alsamixer, set volume,  and when done, alsactl store
[22:19] <Finale> actually, OerHeks is closer to truth
[22:19] <Finale> alsamixer is prolly the answer, I just confused it with pulse
[22:20] <Twirl> OerHeks: man thats just overkill i wont be freaking issuing commands to my terminal just for setting the volume
[22:20] <EriC^^> Twirl: i think you set it once, you can always use it in a script that runs when you logout anyways
[22:20] <Finale> Had a problem with  output jack like a year ago - it just didn't work. Been screwing around with both pulse n alsamixer for a week, then realised I just forgot to plug it in T_T
[22:22] <Twirl> EriC^^: the person that thought it was a good idea to just set volume to 100% every time you turn off/on ur computer is a real genious
[22:22] <Twirl> also even make it so cool that i have to write a script to set my computer volume every time i log off
[22:23] <niee> How can I move ALL window controls(close/min/max) to the right (or left)? Im used Ubuntu 14.04 flashback. any ideas?
[22:23] <Finale> pretty sure it's a one-time measure, no?
[22:23] <Twirl> Finale: so what? i dont have time to write a freaking script, i dont want to either
[22:23] <Twirl> it's just retarded
[22:24] <EriC^^> Twirl: writing a script? it's basically just copying those two lines and pasting them somewhere
[22:24] <Twirl> EriC^^: yea i know what it is to write a script i write scripts for a living
[22:24] <EriC^^> lol
[22:24] <OerHeks> lol
[22:25] <EriC^^> made my day thank you very much
[22:25] <Twirl> i just dont want to do it
[22:27] <Twirl> EriC^^: dont u think the genius team of alsa could have made it so that when u log off it doesnt set volume to 100% or just store the current value or something?
[22:28] <EriC^^> Twirl: it actually doesn't, something is wrong with your pc
[22:28] <Twirl> luckily i use headphones most of the time because if i had some really big speakers id be really annoyed
[22:29] <EriC^^> you can add pactl set-sink-volume 0 70% to your startup apps
[22:30] <Twirl> no i just want it to remember the value like windows does since 1992
[22:31] <Twirl> and i hate windows btw
[22:31] <Twirl> only use it for gaming
[22:32] <EriC^^> try those 2 commands in OerHeks page
[22:33] <Twirl> but that is for every time i log in to set it to some value
[22:33] <EriC^^> nah it said alsa store
[22:33] <EriC^^> run the rm -r command too
[22:34] <OerHeks> one time operation
[22:36] <Twirl> nope
[22:36] <Twirl> that sets a volume to be the same every time i log in i just want to remember the settings i had before turning off my computer
[22:37] <Twirl> so if tomorrow i set it to 80% before turning it off to be 80% when i turn it no not some default 70% or w/e
[22:37] <Twirl> that's how it should be
[22:39] <SubCool> asking here first, every time i try to install lts in a vbox, it crashes. WHy?
[22:39] <Ben64> definitely not enough information
[22:41] <SupaYoshi> Anyone here familiar with UK broadband?
[22:41] <SupaYoshi> I need some advice for a friend of me, thinking to swithc providers, (FTTC)...
[22:41] <OerHeks> SubCool, did you setup the vbox instance correct before installing? 3d, minimum 256 mb videomem etc ?
[22:41] <k1l> !ot | SupaYoshi
[22:42] <itsme_> any idea whats wrong with this errors https://webchat.freenode.net/
[22:42] <SupaYoshi> np
[22:42] <EriC^^> Twirl: you could make a cronjob that runs every minute with pactl list | grep -m1 Volume | cut -d: -f4 > ~/.volume
[22:43] <EriC^^> Twirl: and add in your startup apps pactl set-sink-volume 0 $(cat ~/.volume)
[22:44] <Ben64> itsme_: no error there
[22:46] <Thorax> Anyone know how i can change, alter or disable system sounds in 15.04 Unity DE
[22:46] <itsme_> Ben64 ; it keeps shown when i download a package E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:47] <Ben64> itsme_: explain fully
[22:47] <itsme_> Ben64 ; i will give you a pstebin whait
[22:49] <itsme_> everytime i download a packege it shows in the terminal "Running depmod. "
[22:49] <Twirl> EriC^^: that would be the most retarded use of a cronjob i've seen
[22:49] <Ben64> itsme_: you really need to explain the issue with full details or you're not going to get any answers
[22:49] <itsme_> Ben64 ; and it ends with an error
[22:50] <EriC^^> Twirl: i was going to tell you to look into lightdm/systemd to let it run on logout
[22:50] <Twirl> EriC^^: alsa needs to store the volume and restore it on boot, that is how it should work, i can't believe the people working at alsa don't think about it like this
[22:50] <k1l> !paste | itsme_
[22:51] <itsme_> Ben64 ; can you tell me what the system is doing here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12699937/     ?
[22:51] <k1l> itsme_: and if i should guess its: your disk is full
[22:51] <EriC^^> yeah that's what i thought i'd get ^
[22:51] <k1l> itsme_: Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/sdb")  sounds not well?
[22:52] <EriC^^> Twirl: it does work that way, anyways this isn't a rant channel, either report the bug, try to fix it with a positive attitude
[22:52] <itsme_> k1l>  explain more plz
[22:52] <Twirl> EriC^^: what do you mean that it works that way?
[22:52] <k1l> itsme_: why are you using lilo?
[22:52] <Twirl> if u set volume to 12% and turn ur computer off and on its still at 12% ?
[22:52] <EriC^^> Twirl: it works here, every user has a volume set and saved, it's a bug on your pc
[22:53] <EriC^^> yes, and if another user sets it to 14% it's 14% when he logs on
[22:53] <Twirl> oh well, thats refreshing
[22:54] <Finale> Can it be connected with Win as second OS? I've re-installed Ubuntu and my audio drivers in Win have gone crazy
[22:54] <itsme_> k1l  ; do you mean the boot manager , I installed it  from the mini iso , thats how i installed my ubuntu system 15,04 and grub as well
[22:55] <k1l> itsme_: its some issue with lilo.
[22:55] <Finale> sounds paranormal though. do they even connect?
[22:55] <k1l> itsme_: i havent used lilo since a long time. so dont know about that.
[22:55] <wileee> Finale, should not.
 will uninstalling it break my system ?
[22:56] <itsme_> k1l ; or solve the problem at the first place ?
[22:56] <k1l> itsme_: well, you need a bootloader.
[22:57] <wileee> Finale, This a partitioned install, not a wubi or virtual?
[22:57] <k1l> itsme_: i dont know why you choose lilo in first place. grub is the ubuntu standard. and that is known to work
[22:57] <itsme_> k1l ; i have grub installed , by the way i installed grub from the live ubuntu cause it couldnt install from the mini iso
[22:57] <Finale> wileee: yup, 2 actual OS
[22:58] <wileee> Finale, Unlikely tied, is it fixed yet?
[23:00] <Finale> Windows 8 includes a new feature called "Hybrid Shutdown" or "Fast Boot".  In this mode, "shutdown" just suspends hardware devices, and when Linux boots it is unable to resume them. You will need to disable it on a dual-boot system.
[23:00] <Finale> might try that.
[23:00] <reisio> better to not dual boot
[23:01] <Finale> really need my FL studio
[23:01] <itsme_> k1l ; how can i chek the helth of my  disk  ?
[23:01] <reisio> nah, there are Unixy analogues
[23:01] <wileee> Finale, Yeah if a uefi consult the ubuntu uefi wiki, that from it?
[23:01] <reisio> moreover, FL Studio will run via Wine
[23:02]  * wileee bequeaths a ceramic podium to reisio ; )
[23:03] <reisio> wileee: now we're talkin'
[23:04] <wileee> ;)
[23:12] <Thorax> Sooo.... Its impossible to disable system sounds?
[23:18] <cweagans> When installing the apache2 package, is there an easy way to specify the uid/gid of the www-data user and group?
[23:18] <cweagans> or do I just need to install the package and fiddle with the uid and gid after the fact?
[23:20] <genii> cweagans: Needs to be done after installing
[23:20] <cweagans> dang. okay. thanks.
[23:20] <genii> ..but not sure why you'd want to anyhow
[23:21] <Gurkenglas> While trying to build the haskell package ghc-mod, on the dependency ghc-paths it complains "<command line>: can't load .so/.DLL for: libtinfo.so (libtinfo.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)". http://pastebin.com/JYRT68PP I'm assuming that means I need a dll-like file. The software center seems to say I already have it. https://gyazo.com/87ae1e1a021eefff2abbad84baf748f4
[23:22] <Gurkenglas> (vm (VirtualBox), host windows 10, guest xubuntu 14.04)
[23:34] <maximusfl_> How do you join this group
[23:34] <maximusfl_> ??
[23:34] <reisio> which'n?
[23:35] <maximusfl_> I am a noob with IRC
[23:36] <maximusfl_> do you have to join each group
[23:36] <reisio> channel?
[23:36] <maximusfl_> yes
[23:36] <reisio> what are you trying to join
[23:36] <maximusfl_> "/join NickServ #ubuntu"
[23:37] <reisio> it'd be /join #ubuntu
[23:37] <reisio> but you're already in #ubuntu
[23:37] <reisio> (here)
[23:37] <Bashing-om> maximusfl_: "Join 'this' group" -> Make a significant contribution to the ubuntu community .
[23:37] <reisio> you can hit CTRL+s (or from the top left menu, Network List) to configure default channels to join
[23:38] <maximusfl_> I am using xchat as a client
[23:39] <reisio> I know
[23:39] <maximusfl_> thanks reisio
[23:42] <wafflejock> maximusfl_: you're as here as you can be, this is the maximum hereness you can attain :)
[23:42] <wafflejock> maximusfl_: with freenode there are FAQs for if you want to register a Nick which is necessary for some channels
[23:42] <ianhulett> I want to install ubuntu server edition on one of my old hard drives, but all I have to spare is an SD card. Can I boot with that?
[23:42] <maximusfl_> Reading Freenode.net now
[23:43] <ianhulett> ...or no?
[23:43] <maximusfl_> Thanks!
[23:43] <maximusfl_> You can Install an an SD card
[23:43] <wafflejock> ianhulett: haven't ever had a computer that had a SD card boot option explicitly but also never tried
[23:44] <maximusfl_> I have installed linux on SD
[23:44] <wafflejock> ianhulett: would just give it a shot though see if there's a boot option for it if you get the BIOS boot menu
[23:44] <maximusfl_> If you ever work with a BeagleBone,
[23:44] <wafflejock> maximusfl_: ah true have done RasPi and BeagleBone, didn't even think of that
[23:47] <ianhulett> kk
[23:48] <dbkaplun> Anyone wanna try this badass CLI text editor? https://github.com/slap-editor/slap (disclaimer: I wrote it)
[23:51] <lotuspsychje> dbkaplun: did you know you can request apps to be added to repos if you want
[23:54] <qwebirc21817> Using TRUSTY runningt apt-get upgrade. It finished but: The kernels are being held back why?
[23:54] <wileee> qwebirc21817, try dist-upgrade
[23:54] <wileee> dist is the security kernel tag
[23:54] <qwebirc21817> wileee: Will that change to utopic or reinstall the entire system?
[23:55] <wileee> no, security and kernel updates is all in the release
[23:56] <qwebirc21817> wileee: So dist-upgrade only updates the security updates?
[23:57] <qwebirc21817> Now that dist-upgrade is running and replacing the kernel how can I specify not to erase old kernels?
[23:57] <wileee> qwebirc21817, If they fit within that tag, it is not a thing to worry about it is standard control.
[23:59] <genii> qwebirc21817: dist-upgrade will bump application versions up to a new major version if they exist for the Ubuntu version you are running, as well as bring your kernel to the latest one packaged for that version Ubuntu as well.
[23:59] <wileee> qwebirc21817, Lubuntu but the same, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels