| natorious | morning | 13:49 |
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| smoser | good morning sir. | 13:51 |
| natorious | I'd noticed the decorator properties in the http ds are not in the parent class. Is that intentional? | 13:51 |
| natorious | also noticed what you were referring to w/ network config returning and I'll fix that in the existing merge req | 13:53 |
| natorious | re prop decorator, I was thinking that would change the method signature and therfore not inherit/override | 13:54 |
| smoser | ok. | 14:03 |
| smoser | cloud-init meeting | 14:03 |
| claudiupopa | hi. | 14:03 |
| smoser | hello natorious smoser claudiupopa | 14:03 |
| smoser | jgrimm, | 14:03 |
| smoser | Odd_Bloke, | 14:03 |
| jgrimm | o/ | 14:03 |
| natorious | \o | 14:03 |
| smoser | my bit.ly url for cloudinit-reviews somehow busted. :-( | 14:04 |
| smoser | so | 14:04 |
| smoser | http://bit.ly/cloudinit-reviews-public | 14:05 |
| smoser | i finally got around to reading claudiupopa's proposal at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220095/ yesterday | 14:05 |
| smoser | talked with him a bit. i think we agree that openstack's config-drive and MD are odd fellows. | 14:06 |
| smoser | natorious, wonder if you have thoughts on that. | 14:06 |
| smoser | would xenstore on rackspace still be a possible datasource ? | 14:06 |
| natorious | yea, I don't see why not | 14:06 |
| natorious | the image would have to have some baked in deps to be able to access it like a store | 14:07 |
| natorious | but thats essentially how the openstack guest agents use it today | 14:07 |
| smoser | it woudl be the preferred one there ? | 14:07 |
| smoser | or do they now have openstack MD everywhere. | 14:08 |
| natorious | likely, yeah. Citrix makes it dead easy as a preferred | 14:08 |
| natorious | were doing http and configdrive too | 14:08 |
| smoser | citrix ? | 14:08 |
| natorious | XenServer | 14:08 |
| smoser | ok. | 14:09 |
| smoser | ok. so... how about this. | 14:09 |
| smoser | the one topic we have from last week was python2.6 . | 14:09 |
| smoser | and Odd_Bloke quickly pointed out that there are official python2.7 sources for centos and for redhat | 14:09 |
| smoser | in 'SCL's | 14:10 |
| smoser | that still leaves me sles to look at, but i went and built some images last week and have them in a local cloud so i can easily poke around. | 14:11 |
| smoser | so i think we can say 2.7 | 14:12 |
| smoser | then i guess move on./ | 14:12 |
| natorious | um | 14:12 |
| smoser | um ? | 14:13 |
| smoser | as in you dont like that? | 14:13 |
| natorious | to clarify, the products I'm currently working on dont use xenstore | 14:13 |
| natorious | at all | 14:13 |
| natorious | dunno the full context | 14:13 |
| smoser | does rackspace have any that to do your knowledge? | 14:13 |
| natorious | yea, their public cloud | 14:14 |
| natorious | this is how they mine that source too | 14:14 |
| natorious | https://github.com/rackerlabs/openstack-guest-agents-unix | 14:14 |
| natorious | so right now to get cloud-init to work w/ this guest agent | 14:15 |
| natorious | you have to tweak the boot order and deps | 14:15 |
| natorious | bc cloud-init pretty much requires networking to function properly and unless the guest agent has configured it, it wouldn't work | 14:16 |
| smoser | right. 0.7.x definitely does. | 14:17 |
| natorious | we were managing that ordering outside of the pkgs though | 14:17 |
| smoser | that is a primary goal to be addressed. | 14:17 |
| natorious | k, cool | 14:17 |
| smoser | i kind of talked a bit to the plan for that in my response to claudio | 14:18 |
| smoser | on boot, we have something that goes looking for "network config sources" | 14:18 |
| smoser | that thing blocks boot until it decides how your networking shoudl be configured. | 14:19 |
| smoser | it configures it, and then lets boot continue. | 14:19 |
| smoser | later in boot (when network comes up) | 14:19 |
| smoser | cloud-init again goes looking for a datasource for user-data, meta-data ... other things. | 14:19 |
| natorious | makes sense | 14:20 |
| smoser | i'll start trying to write this better into a spec | 14:20 |
| smoser | it is tricky | 14:20 |
| smoser | because figuring out what networking is supposed to be is not easy | 14:20 |
| smoser | and figuring out if this is config you've found should be applied (and possibly overwrite the user's config) is not easy either. ie, if this was a reboot. | 14:21 |
| smoser | honestly, ditching the "snapshot without clean" thing... woudl make things so much easier. | 14:21 |
| smoser | natorious, i'll look back above at your questions here in a minute. | 14:25 |
| smoser | and will try to write down my theory on boot order for cloud-init into a spec for review. | 14:25 |
| natorious | ty | 14:26 |
| natorious | I'd like to get this WIP configdrive merge request in today and have a few low fruit hangers left | 14:35 |
| natorious | or we still waiting for discussion? | 14:36 |
| smoser | natorious, i think we're done with meeting | 14:37 |
| smoser | ok... so wht do you want me to look at | 14:37 |
| natorious | oh, lol | 14:37 |
| natorious | so is the taskflow bit a + now that 2.7 works? | 14:37 |
| natorious | I'm finishing load and _get_data for the cd ds and I'll submit it as a WIP. There were some properties defined in the http ds that were not defined as properties in the base | 14:38 |
| natorious | wasn't sure if that was intentional | 14:39 |
| smoser | wrt taskflow, i dont know. still need to lok at that. it has quite a dependency chain. | 14:40 |
| natorious | also was hoping to chat a bit about BaseOpenStackSource.network_config | 14:40 |
| smoser | and my virutal-env pip install of taskflow jsut failed here... doign a c compile | 14:41 |
| smoser | i'll see if we can't strike that ctaskflow conversation up with Odd_Bloke later. who appears non-present. | 14:42 |
| smoser | ok. your questions. you want to go down the list of what you wrote before meeting ? | 14:42 |
| natorious | really its just _is_password_set in the http ds is set as a property but the BaseDataSource._is_password_set is not | 14:42 |
| jgrimm | smoser, are you cancelling next week meeting? or still planning to have while you are travelling? | 14:43 |
| smoser | well, yeah, i'm not going to be there. | 14:44 |
| smoser | but willsend mail to that affect and say that it can occur in my absense. | 14:44 |
| jgrimm | k | 14:45 |
| natorious | and the network_config bit which w/ network_json being its own format, should we still plan on returning the json data in those cases and the file content in the other? | 14:46 |
| natorious | like type check on the receiving end whatnot? | 14:46 |
| smoser | i think it shoudl be a property in the base class. | 14:47 |
| smoser | as we use it as one in the tests | 14:47 |
| natorious | ah right, I'll include that change in here then too | 14:48 |
| smoser | natorious and "file_content" ? you mean /etc/network/itnerfaces file ? | 14:48 |
| natorious | yea | 14:48 |
| natorious | the projects I'm working on are moving away from that to using network json but the way the ds classes are modeled would mean network_config could then return either or | 14:50 |
| natorious | just want to make sure that was acceptable | 14:50 |
| smoser | the end goal in my head is for cloud-init to read that network_json from its "network config source" (which here is an http source... see the tricky-ness of network config sources ? ) | 14:50 |
| smoser | and then turn that into an interneal representation of networking configuration and then render it. | 14:51 |
| natorious | right, so dhcp to static | 14:51 |
| smoser | since we have multiple different formats we're going to have to read. | 14:51 |
| smoser | network_json, /etc/network/interfaces, ec2 metadata format .. | 14:52 |
| natorious | if the ds class is to process each, its going to take me a bit longer on this | 14:52 |
| smoser | well, dont worry about "rendering" the network config for now. | 14:53 |
| natorious | k, so I'll just return it as is and look at either processing it outside of the ds or add to it when I get there | 14:54 |
| smoser | just have the datasource fetch it. have it available. and some future "render networking" thing will take that as input and do its job. | 14:54 |
| smoser | yeah. i think so. | 14:55 |
| natorious | for the configdrive ds there were a few base methods that didn't make sense too. Like post_password and is_password_changed | 14:55 |
| natorious | the base doesn't raise an exc so there could be unexpected results down the road | 14:55 |
| smoser | i think NotImplementedError makes sense at least initially | 14:56 |
| natorious | and thats all I got for now. Will try and get this w/ some tests in today sometime. I'll look at some network config bits after this too. Hopefully get something to test w/ :) | 14:57 |
| natorious | k | 14:57 |
| natorious | where are you traveling to? | 14:58 |
| smoser | seattle next week. | 14:58 |
| natorious | ah sweet. If you all end up going to the Austin, TX OpenStack Summit 2016, we should get up for sure | 15:00 |
| natorious | I live an hour away from Austin | 15:00 |
| smoser | claudiupopa, what would you use to render your specs/<spec>.rst ? | 18:20 |
| harlowja | smoser https://pypi.python.org/pypi/restview | 18:25 |
| harlowja | what i do is | 18:25 |
| harlowja | restview -l :5000 specs/ | 18:25 |
| harlowja | the open a webbrowsr @ localhost:5000 | 18:26 |
| harlowja | and bam | 18:26 |
| harlowja | 'Every time you reload the page, restview will reload the document from disk and render it. This is very convenient for previewing a document while you’re editing it.' is nice | 18:26 |
| smoser | thanks harlowja | 18:27 |
| harlowja | np | 18:27 |
| claudiupopa | Aaa, cool, didn't know about that, thanks. | 18:36 |
| harlowja | its pretty nice | 18:36 |
| harlowja | what i use for all my rst specs stuffs | 18:36 |
| smoser | i'm guessing there are other tools that do this, and you will just laugh at me, but i had 'venv' to do things like this. | 19:12 |
| smoser | https://gist.github.com/smoser/2d4100a6a5d230ca937f | 19:12 |
| smoser | then i just have a 'restview' file in my ~/bin/ | 19:12 |
| smoser | #!/bin/sh | 19:12 |
| smoser | exec venv restview restview "$@" | 19:12 |
| harlowja | smoser cool, no idea, i have a tool that looks for a .venv on every 'cd' and tries to source it, and on leaving that directory exits the venv | 21:07 |
| harlowja | that way i can have each repo i work on have a different venv, and just cd .. and all that will enter/exit it | 21:07 |
| harlowja | https://gist.github.com/garyjohnson/394c58e22a2adfa103e2 and similar | 21:08 |
| harlowja | various ones of those around | 21:08 |
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