[04:34] <sitter> Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_unstable_kaccounts-integration/
[04:42] <sitter> Riddell: kunitconversion will need a new upload with fixed symbols file format
[05:08] <sitter> oh ffs
[05:48] <sitter> Your membership in the Ubuntu Core Development Team (ubuntu-core-dev)
[05:48] <sitter> team has expired.
[05:48] <sitter> hm
[05:48] <sitter> well that's that then
[07:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:33] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-85-gee81507 * Aleix Pol:  (2 files in 2 dirs)
[07:33] <pursuivant> Fix upgrade UI
[07:33] <pursuivant> Show some text when we don't have the progress information
[07:33] <pursuivant> Center the text
[07:33] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/ee81507c467f224e7de2c1eab534393802dfd0d1
[07:33] <vip> hi ho
[07:33] <soee> bonjour
[07:33] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-86-ge92a386 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/DummyBackend/muon-dummy-backend-categories.xml
[07:33] <pursuivant> add a specially longer dummy category
[07:33] <pursuivant> for better UI testing
[07:33] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/e92a3863d1ff0b3da89295096f79a330fffdede4
[07:33] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-87-g7ba51f3 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/GridItem.qml
[07:33] <pursuivant> Use a different color to highlight on grid delegate hover
[07:33] <pursuivant> This way we can have things with such highlight within the delegate.
[07:33] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/7ba51f3ff70981332928c8a4d6f6a780d7e96629
[07:34] <lordievader> Hey vip, soee 
[08:47] <alvin> Situation: You decline to install MP3 and Flash support and so on in the installer. Afterwards, every time you log on, there is an icon in the system tray that proposes to install Flash. Is there a possibility to decline permanently without being bugged every session? If not, what's the name of that package so that I can file a bug report.
[08:50] <Riddell> alvin: can't you right click on the icon and Never Show Again?
[08:50] <Riddell> it'll be kubuntu-notification-helper I think
[08:59] <alvin> Riddell: Never tried it before you suggested that. But there is a reason. Apparently you can right-click it and choose 'never show again', but as soon as you left-click it the icon disappears and the window with the question appears. So, your chance to right-click and decline is gone until the next time you get the notification. You can't read what the question is and decline afterwards within the same session. (What then happens next 
[08:59] <alvin> session is: "hey, an icon with a question! Let's read it. Ugh, Flash again. I'll decline next session. Next session: "Hey, a question, I wonder...." I really have to think: "This will probably be about Flash again, I'll tell it not to bug me." (It's always Flash, isn't it? There are never other packages being proposed by kubuntu-notification-helper, and if you say "don
[09:00] <alvin> 't show again", will it actually be able to propose other packages?
[09:38] <Riddell> alvin: the code is in kde git, any fixes welcome :)
[09:42] <alvin> I wish I could. I'm no programmer. A little bit of Perl is the extend of my knowledge. But maybe, one day.
[09:54] <sitter> qt-gstreamer repo needs a fork
[09:54] <sitter> that bloody UDD-like branching is screwing with CI
[09:54] <sitter> Riddell: what does one do if one timed out as coredev?
[09:54] <sitter> send angry FAX to dev membership board?
[09:55] <Riddell> sitter: or messenger pidgeon
[09:57] <Riddell> sitter: it would be to the tech board
[09:58] <sitter> what's the DMB good for then?
[09:58] <sitter> The Ubuntu Developer Membership Board currently approves Contributing Developers (Ubuntu Membership), per-package uploaders, MOTU and Core Developers
[09:58] <sitter> DMB is responsible now
[09:58] <sitter> used to be TB
[10:01] <sitter> it's weird how the warning about expiration got filtered to trash but the notification after the fact didn't
[10:08] <sitter> I'm back baby \o/
[10:08]  * sitter sends more mails since he is on a roll
[10:27] <sitter> Riddell: are we landing kf5.15 for wily?
[10:48] <sitter> ah ffs
[10:49] <sitter> why the bloody hell did that fail
[10:50]  * sitter deploys tooling again
[10:54] <Riddell> sitter: yes I'm minded to get 5.15 in if it works fine
[10:55] <sitter> we should get at least kiconthemes IMO. to get rid of first start icon theme problems
[10:59] <Riddell> no sign of clivejo so I'll fix up kunitthing myself and get the rest done
[11:02] <sitter> Riddell: kunit is in git 
[11:02] <sitter> I did some adjustment for CI
[11:02] <sitter> for some reason we have gotten a pkg-kde-tools merge of which the only purpose was actively breaking builds :S
[11:02] <Riddell> ah lovely thanks sitter
[11:02] <davmor2> sitter: because if it just worked you wouldn't be happy
[11:03] <sitter> I would be perfectly happy with not having builds randomly fail to build this close to release :P
[11:03] <sitter> after release is another thing
[11:05] <sitter>  /usr/include/gstreamer-1.0/gst/gstelement.h:55:27: fatal error: gst/gstconfig.h: No such file or directory
[11:05] <sitter> something is astray with gst
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:35] <BluesKaj> well, I have some sembalance of a desktop back again, altho most desktop effects are literally out of the picture, X seeems shifted down and to the right by a couple of inches on this large monitor/tv 
[12:37] <sitter> sebas: btw, did your kmail improve? we should now have 15.08.1
[13:04] <sebas> sitter: not as of yesterday ... I'll try again now
[13:07] <sebas> sitter: no luck ... I'm considering a local problem
[13:07] <sebas> but then, it should definitely work if I start akonadi by hand and then start kmail in the same shell
[13:09] <sebas> sitter: https://paste.kde.org/ppwsnycy1 so looks like the agents aren't found
[13:09] <sebas> or can't be loaded
[13:11] <sebas> which package contains the agents, contact and imap agents, for example?
[13:15] <sebas> kdepim-runtime I suppose is the old agent
[14:02] <sitter> sebas: kdepim-runtime should be the uptodate agents. perhaps ask dvratil
[14:02] <sebas> that wasn't installed
[14:02] <sebas> kmail is missing a dep?
[14:03] <sebas> and it seems to help, even
[14:10] <BluesKaj> is this the latest image for beta 2, the dailies are no longer available http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-10-beta-2/
[14:12] <marco-parillo> BluesKaj: Can you get to here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/
[14:13] <marco-parillo> I thought I ran a zsync just the other day
[14:14] <marco-parillo> Oh, sorry, were you really asking for the daily that matched the Beta-2 image?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> mparillo, yes the latest daily , I have bata image that's about a week old
[14:15] <BluesKaj> beta even
[14:15] <BluesKaj> looks like I have to do a fresh reinstall, plasma crashes before I get a login screen, getting the emergency screen only plus a lot of warnings about the plasma crashes 
[14:17] <marco-parillo> It looks to me as if the latest daily is here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[14:18] <marco-parillo> And yes, my upgrade seemed to do funny things on one of my laptops last night, but all seemed well after this morning's upgrades. The other laptop and the VM all seem happy. Maybe I had caught a strange case were some packages upgraded and others were not yet seeded.
[14:19] <BluesKaj> marco-parillo, yes I'm downloading from the first url you posted since it has today's date
[14:21] <BluesKaj> my laptop upgraded just fine yesterday without any graphics issues at all, but it uses intel graphics rather than nvidia like the desktop
[14:32] <sitter> sebas: cheers. I uploaded a fix
[14:33] <sebas> sitter: sweet, thanks!
[14:34] <sebas> sitter: it's now synching email and seems to work otherwise
[14:34] <sebas> I'll let you know if I run into problems later on
[14:34] <sitter> ok
[14:35] <sebas> I'm happy to have kmail again, also on this machine
[14:35] <sebas> claws somehow doesn't fully support my workflows
[14:35] <sebas> keyboard shortcuts, folder search etc. are all miles better in kmail
[14:36]  * sitter wonders how kdepimlibs stable CI got borked
[14:37] <sitter> 00:34:07.723 HEAD detached at packaging/kubuntu_unstable
[14:37] <sitter> why that would do it
[14:37] <sitter> >.<
[17:57] <BluesKaj> ok, Wily seems to be behaving somewhat better, altho text entries and copy and pastes seem very slow, almost hesitant 
[17:59] <BluesKaj> virtual desktop switching fast and clean, no artifacts like yesterday's upgrade 
[18:01] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[18:02] <soee> hiho
[18:04] <soee> Riddell: new frameworks ready ?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> oh no, I just got things straightened out 
[18:06]  * claydoh just got a ~4 year old dell e6420, finally moves into this decade hardware-wise
[18:06]  * claydoh is pleasantly surprised at how well nouveau runs on 15.10
[18:07] <soee> :)
[18:08] <claydoh> of course, installing the nvidia drivers removes any gui until I switch to the intel gpu lol
[18:11] <BluesKaj> claydoh, Optimus ?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> ok , time to run a few errands ..BBL
[18:54] <soee> someone have installed frameworks 5.15?
[19:12] <clivejo> anyone elses system very unstable today?
[19:13] <soee> clivejo: yeah, i thught after framewrosk 5.15 install
[19:13] <mamarley> clivejo: You don't by chance have the proposed repository enabled on Wily, do you?  Kernel 4.2.0-15 in there is busted.
[19:13] <ovidiu-florin> http://youtu.be/qGkjB4gCGhw Join Us at Kubuntu Podcast #5
[19:13] <soee> taksabar has hge lags when clicking n isons, krunner same. 
[19:14] <soee> cpus gone mad an plasmashell also
[19:14] <BluesKaj> proposed is always dangerous unles you install a specific package
[19:15]  * mamarley has had proposed enabled for quite some time now without many major problems *knocks on wood*
[19:21] <BluesKaj> mamarley, just comment it if you want to save it for future test packages, but want to remain safe from those that might break things
[19:26] <soee> be warned: new frameworks make system less responsive and laggy!
[19:26] <soee> also system eats a lot of cpu power
[19:26] <soee> i moved back to 5.14 and system works sooth again
[19:29] <clivejo> soee: has frameworks 5.15 hit the archive?
[19:30] <soee> clivejo: i tested staging ppa
[19:30] <yofel> not from what I see
[19:30] <clivejo> my system is very unstable today
[19:31] <soee> with 5.15 system was eatign a lot of cpu power one core all the tme ~70% other jumping gigh
[19:31] <clivejo> I am getting popup windows but nothing in them
[19:31] <soee> after revert all is normal and stable
[19:31]  * BluesKaj takes a chance and installs 5.15 anyway
[19:31] <clivejo> titled window manager
[19:32] <soee> when i was clicking on and icon in taskbar it tooks more then one second to activate app
[19:32] <clivejo> soee: is frameworks ready?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> ok framework 5.15 installed ...rebooting
[19:49] <soee> clivejo: they buld fine from what i see
[19:54] <BluesKaj> no lag here with frameworks 5.15 installed
[19:58] <soee> yofel: ping
[19:58] <yofel> hm?
[19:58] <soee> yofel: what does this  (Newer version available) means here https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-frameworks/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=wily ?
[19:59] <soee> what is this newer version ?
[19:59] <yofel> aaaah
[19:59] <yofel> dangit, Riddell uploaded 5.15 to wily a couple hours ago
[20:00] <yofel> that's why the PPA says there is a newer version in the archive
[20:00] <soee> yofel: so the ppa compares the version inside with what is in main archive ?
[20:00] <yofel> yes
[20:00] <soee> ah, cool. thank you
[20:01] <ahoneybun> Riddell: how is docs.kubuntu.co.uk?
[20:03] <clivejo> so 5.15 is in the archive?
[20:04] <soee> clivejo: looks like
[20:04] <clivejo> I think thats my problem!
[20:05] <soee> but not yet in updates from what i see
[20:12] <soee> BluesKaj: cpu usage is stable for you ? ow many cores ?
[20:13] <BluesKaj> soee,  2cores , averaging about 15% each 
[20:14] <BluesKaj> no lag atm 
[20:14] <mparillo> How can I tell if I have 5.15?
[20:14] <soee> hmm good for you, i need someone with more cores etc to test it
[20:17] <BluesKaj> soee, haven't installed 5.15 on my laptop yet, but it's just an i3 intel cpu with 4 cores
[20:18] <soee> mparillo: hmm good question
[20:18] <soee> what wa steh podcastt link ?
[20:19] <clivejo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGkjB4gCGhw
[20:19] <clivejo> soee: ^
[20:19] <soee> clivejo: thank you
[20:19] <BluesKaj> anyway I'm done for the day ..take care all
[20:39] <Riddell> yofel: is that a bad thing?
[20:39] <clivejo> anyone else have these "Warning - Window Manager <x> popup windows which are blank?
[20:39] <yofel> well, soee seemed to have problems, but that seems to not happen for everyone
[21:41] <marco-parillo> On Wily today, upgrading with apt, I got a key error. Upgrading with muon-update, I get The following pieces of software cannot be verified. WARNING: Installing unverified software represents a security risk, as the presence of unverifiable software can be a sign of tampering. Do you wish to continue?
[22:37] <wgrant> marco-parillo: Can you pastebin the output of apt-get update? We deployed some archive changes 12 hours ago.
[22:57] <marco-parillo> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net wily InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[23:01] <wgrant> marco-parillo: Ah, that sounds unrelated. Looks like you've just added a PPA without adding its key.
[23:09] <marco-parillo> Oh, yes. The staging-frameworks PPA
[23:21] <clivejo> somethings badly wrong with my window manager :/
[23:22] <clivejo> http://s2.postimg.org/swe8d32dz/window1.jpg
[23:24] <clivejo> http://s12.postimg.org/42ky0gel8/window2.jpg
[23:27]  * clivejo enables staging frameworks