| === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha | ||
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, are you doing the gnome-orca 3.16.3 update? | 01:57 |
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| TheMuso | robert_ancell: Oh we can do those this late in the cycle? | 02:36 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: I can. | 02:36 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, yeah, if it's just stable fixes. It compiled fine here just wasn't sure how to check if anything broken | 02:37 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: Ok go ahead with the upload then if you have done changelog etc. | 02:37 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, ok | 02:37 |
| TheMuso | I can do it if you aren't that far along. | 02:37 |
| TheMuso | ah ok cool. | 02:38 |
| robert_ancell | bye all | 03:54 |
| hikiko | hello | 04:51 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:10 |
| TheMuso | Hey hikiko, didrocks. | 05:10 |
| didrocks | hey TheMuso! | 05:10 |
| hikiko | hey TheMuso didrocks ] | 05:11 |
| didrocks | hey hikiko | 05:12 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:17 |
| didrocks | hey pitti | 05:18 |
| pitti | ça va didrocks ? | 05:21 |
| didrocks | pitti: ça va, et toi ? | 05:21 |
| pitti | didrocks: still trouble with my stomach, but I at least could sleep a little longer today; hope it'll get better now :) | 05:22 |
| didrocks | pitti: I hope your stomach will fix itself sooner rather than later :/ | 05:23 |
| TheMuso | Hey pitti. Stomach upsets suck, hope you get better soon. | 05:23 |
| pitti | I hardly ever get that, but I guess it's mostly harmless | 05:24 |
| pitti | thanks! | 05:24 |
| TheMuso | Of all the illnesses I've ever had, I think ones relating to the stomach have been my least favourite. | 05:25 |
| * TheMuso -> EOD. | 05:38 | |
| didrocks | see you TheMuso! | 05:41 |
| larsu | bonjour! | 06:27 |
| * larsu will need to have a word with wollcooke today - sun is gone | 06:27 | |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:28 |
| didrocks | hey larsu, seb128 | 06:28 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 et larsu ! comment allez-vous ? | 06:28 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks larsu pitti | 06:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, ça va bien ! et toi ? | 06:29 |
| larsu | hi didrocks and pitti and seb128! | 06:29 |
| pitti | seb128: médiocre encore, je vais voir un docteur aujourd'hui; peut-être ubuflu pour l'estomac :) | 06:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, retape toi bien ! | 06:33 |
| pitti | seb128: merci ! | 06:34 |
| hikiko | fiiixed :D | 07:00 |
| hikiko | 3d windows on shaders :D | 07:00 |
| hikiko | but I need help from mir guys to test in actual gles | 07:00 |
| hikiko | did anyone ever run gles2 compiz on desktop? | 07:31 |
| * hikiko needs some help to test an algorithm | 07:32 | |
| seb128 | I don't | 07:33 |
| Sweet5hark | moin | 07:37 |
| larsu | hi Sweet5hark! wie geht's? | 07:39 |
| didrocks | morning Sweet5hark! | 07:39 |
| * larsu hits gtk-doc with a stick | 07:41 | |
| seb128 | hey Sweet5hark | 07:41 |
| Sweet5hark | larsu, didrocks, seb128: hey guys | 07:42 |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:57 |
| * willcooke can't find anything good for team dinner | 07:58 | |
| willcooke | where good = food style & location & price | 07:58 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 07:59 |
| didrocks | can't we go where we headed last time? | 07:59 |
| * didrocks was quite happy about that place | 07:59 | |
| willcooke | I thought about that as well, but: | 07:59 |
| willcooke | the service was poor, and we had to leave after 2 hours | 07:59 |
| willcooke | if you guys are all ok with that, then I am happy to try and book it | 08:00 |
| willcooke | I thought the food was great there | 08:00 |
| * didrocks doesn't mind, but let's see what others say | 08:00 | |
| larsu | morning willcooke | 08:03 |
| larsu | give me back my sun! | 08:03 |
| willcooke | hey larsu | 08:03 |
| willcooke | I dont have it | 08:03 |
| willcooke | :( | 08:03 |
| larsu | I let you have it for ONE day, and you lost it?! ;) | 08:03 |
| willcooke | I left it *right* here yesterday | 08:03 |
| willcooke | someone must have taken it | 08:03 |
| Laney | hai | 08:04 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:04 |
| larsu | Laney: perfect timing. Morning :) | 08:04 |
| willcooke | There's our culprit | 08:04 |
| Laney | AH | 08:04 |
| Laney | FOOD CHAT | 08:04 |
| larsu | I vote for somewhere else | 08:04 |
| larsu | variety and all | 08:04 |
| Laney | if we can find somewhere yeah | 08:05 |
| Laney | it's london, no need to go to the same place twice! | 08:05 |
| larsu | indeed | 08:05 |
| Laney | (imho) | 08:05 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke Laney | 08:07 |
| willcooke | hey seb128 | 08:07 |
| Laney | hiya! | 08:08 |
| Laney | what's up? | 08:08 |
| pitti | hey Laney! | 08:12 |
| Laney | hi pitti! | 08:14 |
| Laney | how are you? | 08:14 |
| pitti | Laney: better today, thanks | 08:18 |
| Laney | oh, I didn't realise you weren't good :( | 08:18 |
| pitti | Laney: some stomach trouble, I'll see a doctor today (maybe something wrong with Budapest's tap water, or what not -- I don't know) | 08:19 |
| * Laney sends some good rays pitti's way | 08:20 | |
| Laney | hope there's a quick solution for you | 08:20 |
| larsu | so you *do* have the sun | 08:21 |
| Laney | ...gamma rays? | 08:21 |
| pitti | well, in a way they are :) | 08:21 |
| larsu | pitti: all the best! | 08:22 |
| pitti | larsu: danke! | 08:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you plan a new apport upload this week? | 08:24 |
| seb128 | we could do with getting those errors out of e.u.c ;-) | 08:24 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, sure! | 08:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, if you do also please review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu/wily/apport/str_no_decoding/+merge/273076 | 08:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 08:25 |
| Laney | pitti: https://udd.debian.org/~laney/less.txt <- updated, looks like -uz is a real candidate for removal | 08:25 |
| Laney | anyone spot something the three remaining packages have in common? :) | 08:26 |
| pitti | seb128: that's not completely right yet -- if you don't decode you must use if b'something' in ... | 08:26 |
| seb128 | Laney, why so much hate for chrisccoulson? ;-) | 08:26 |
| pitti | seb128: as it might still be a str or bytes (if there's some garbage in the log) | 08:26 |
| pitti | seb128: but that's easy enough, I'll fix it up on merge | 08:26 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 08:27 |
| chrisccoulson | what have I done? | 08:27 |
| seb128 | Laney, or in fact we are supposed to handle the devel serie, so one for qengho? | 08:27 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey! | 08:27 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, how are you? | 08:28 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: error number #1: you left your bed? :-) | 08:28 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, I'm not too bad thanks. How are you? | 08:28 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, seems like firefox/tb/oxide are oudated in wily compared to other series | 08:28 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 08:28 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, that's because people keep doing random uploads without proposing the changes to the bzr branches | 08:28 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti, I'm not bad thanks. And you? | 08:28 |
| seb128 | doookooooo | 08:29 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 08:29 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: okayish, glad to be back from the sprint | 08:29 |
| pitti | seb128: "iz gcc bug!" ? | 08:29 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, where was your sprint? | 08:29 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: in Budapest | 08:29 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, nice | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, is uploading without sending back changes to the packaging vcs | 08:29 |
| pitti | not that it matters much, it could've been anywhere :) | 08:29 |
| seb128 | (wha chrisccoulson was mentioning) | 08:29 |
| chrisccoulson | This was the change - http://launchpadlibrarian.net/219814387/firefox_41.0%2Bbuild3-0ubuntu1_41.0%2Bbuild3-0ubuntu2.diff.gz. I'm not convinced that should be fixed in Firefox tbh, and I really object to carrying powerpc-specific patches (especially when there's no upstream bug reference. They become just another patch I have to permanently maintain) | 08:31 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, just drop it and if somebody complains you can tell them to properly do things next time ;-) | 08:31 |
| Laney | best to merge the changelog and say that's what you are doing, and probably talk to the original uploader. | 08:32 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, I did, although without realizing it ;) | 08:32 |
| Laney | otherwise it looks like you missed the upload and accidentally dropped it | 08:32 |
| seb128 | haha | 08:32 |
| seb128 | seems he did | 08:32 |
| Laney | :) | 08:32 |
| seb128 | :-) | 08:32 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, how far away from London are you now? | 08:33 |
| davmor2 | seb128: 120miles ish | 08:33 |
| seb128 | k, not in easy reach to drop by one evening for a beer | 08:34 |
| seb128 | shame | 08:34 |
| seb128 | hey davmor2 | 08:34 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, davmor2, I think it's a bit less than that now. I moved house | 08:34 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I know you moved, that's why I was asking ;-) | 08:34 |
| davmor2 | chrisccoulson: ah fair enough I was going by the solihull address | 08:34 |
| davmor2 | chrisccoulson: where did you move to? | 08:35 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, it's about ~100 miles | 08:35 |
| chrisccoulson | davmor2, I moved to bourne in lincolnshire. Near to my mum :) | 08:36 |
| davmor2 | chrisccoulson: less convenient for trains and airport but much nicer views I imagine :) | 08:37 |
| chrisccoulson | davmor2, yeah, there's certainly a lot less around here. But I'm right on the far south-east corner of town. There's trees opposite my house, and beyond that it's just fields for miles | 08:38 |
| chrisccoulson | The views are fairly boring though - the fens are a bit flat | 08:38 |
| davmor2 | chrisccoulson: not as boring as the house opposite though right :) | 08:39 |
| chrisccoulson | davmor2, it has one advantage - houses are much cheaper than solihull :) | 08:40 |
| Laney | went through stamford on the train at the weekend | 08:41 |
| Laney | seems pleasant | 08:41 |
| davmor2 | chrisccoulson: I think the only place more expensive is London isn't it as areas go | 08:41 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, I see add_installation_log, that already does decode('UTF-8', 'replace') -- so that's fine | 08:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, right | 08:41 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney, yeah, I'm not far from stamford | 08:42 |
| Laney | yeah that's why I mentioned it :P | 08:42 |
| davmor2 | chrisccoulson: more import is how is the broadband? | 08:46 |
| chrisccoulson | davmor2, it's ok - I'm about 200m from the cabinet, which they upgraded with fibre a week or so before I moved in. | 08:47 |
| chrisccoulson | So I get pretty much ~80Mbps | 08:47 |
| davmor2 | chrisccoulson: ah so not too bad then | 08:48 |
| chrisccoulson | We're quite lucky here - we've benefited from government funding for the fibre rollout, and the rollout plans are all public (through http://onlincolnshire.org/) so I had an idea when our cabinet was going to be upgraded before I moved | 08:49 |
| Laney | pitti: did you see the comment about the uz langpacks? | 08:53 |
| pitti | Laney: no, I didn't; sorry, missed it | 08:54 |
| Laney | pitti: ok, well - they are the only leftover one :) | 08:55 |
| pitti | uz 11076 (4%) discarded | 08:55 |
| pitti | Laney: yes, sounds plausible | 08:55 |
| pitti | Laney: removing, thanks for tracking this! | 08:55 |
| pitti | Laney: why does this duplicate everything? | 08:56 |
| Laney | pitti: WDYM? | 08:56 |
| pitti | Laney: https://udd.debian.org/~laney/less.txt has two lines for every langpack | 08:56 |
| pitti | not that it matters that much, but I figure this is an ongoing check | 08:56 |
| pitti | Laney: removed | 08:57 |
| Laney | it's just an SQL query, so probably it has two rows on the vivid side | 08:57 |
| Laney | i.e. in updates and proposed | 08:57 |
| Laney | thanks! | 08:57 |
| seb128 | larsu, would you fancy looking to a theme issue? in software-center, the install bars in the "in progress" section are orange with a grey rectangle in the middle | 08:59 |
| seb128 | (also spinner are weirdly centered but that's probably a bug in s-c) | 08:59 |
| andyrock | morning guys | 09:04 |
| willcooke | hey andyrock | 09:05 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock | 09:15 |
| larsu | seb128: Trevinho is on the theme now | 09:15 |
| * larsu at least tries | 09:15 | |
| seb128 | lol | 09:15 |
| seb128 | is it taking? | 09:15 |
| larsu | taking? | 09:16 |
| seb128 | is it taking off? | 09:16 |
| seb128 | trying to make Trevinho owning the theme | 09:16 |
| larsu | yes! | 09:16 |
| larsu | I just need to convince enough people while he's still sleeping | 09:17 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:17 |
| larsu | he doesn't see old pings anyway :P | 09:17 |
| seb128 | it's troll Trevinho day! | 09:18 |
| seb128 | that's what you get for working at night and sleeping while others troll ;-) | 09:18 |
| andyrock | ahahahha | 09:18 |
| larsu | probably he's trolling us while we're asleep as well | 09:18 |
| andyrock | I forgot to sleep today :D | 09:18 |
| seb128 | don't do that too many days in a row | 09:19 |
| larsu | seb128: themining of that whole app is ... offf | 09:19 |
| larsu | buttons not linked, no frames around the "tab" buttons | 09:19 |
| seb128 | larsu, :-( | 09:19 |
| larsu | seb128: that eog bug.... I *just* added the menu bar | 09:29 |
| larsu | and people already complain its missing stuff :) | 09:29 |
| larsu | *it's | 09:29 |
| seb128 | yeah for users ;-) | 09:29 |
| larsu | anyway, this is not happening for W - it's waiting on some gtk work desrt and I want to do in London next week | 09:30 |
| seb128 | k, I don't think it's important | 09:31 |
| seb128 | feel free to unassign as well | 09:31 |
| larsu | I agree | 09:31 |
| larsu | primary purpose of this app is to look at images | 09:31 |
| seb128 | if you want to keep your buglist a reflect of things you are working on | 09:31 |
| seb128 | right | 09:31 |
| larsu | there's a million other ways to open it in another app | 09:31 |
| seb128 | I don't even know why people need an open with in eog | 09:31 |
| larsu | (one of which is right-click) | 09:31 |
| seb128 | they can do that from nautilus | 09:31 |
| larsu | yeah | 09:31 |
| larsu | or the app itself | 09:31 |
| seb128 | wontfix? | 09:31 |
| larsu | we can have it easily next cycle | 09:32 |
| larsu | and I don't think it hurts | 09:32 |
| seb128 | k | 09:32 |
| * larsu comments | 09:32 | |
| seb128 | bug #1479054 is a theme issue right? | 09:33 |
| ubot5` | bug 1479054 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Shuffle and repeat buttons pressed state does not visually differ from unpressed state" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1479054 | 09:33 |
| larsu | yes, likely | 09:34 |
| seb128 | hum, yeah, same issue in nautilus with the list/icon mode buttons | 09:34 |
| seb128 | and adwaita does it better | 09:34 |
| larsu | indeed, I've never liked our dark buttons | 09:35 |
| larsu | way too hard to see their states | 09:35 |
| seb128 | oh, I'm using the light theme | 09:35 |
| seb128 | but from your comment I guess the dark one has the same issue ;-) | 09:36 |
| larsu | oh. indeed :D | 09:36 |
| seb128 | I sometime forget that I'm not using the default theme :p | 09:36 |
| larsu | also not the default language | 09:40 |
| seb128 | that I can fix! | 09:40 |
| larsu | by changing the default language of Ubuntu, and not the one on your system, right? | 09:41 |
| seb128 | indeed! | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | seb128, nah, to late ... to fix it for future products you should have joined the snappy team to make sure it uses the right one from the start :P | 09:41 |
| larsu | not sure I'd find the terminal anymore if you do that | 09:41 |
| larsu | sorry can't work | 09:41 |
| larsu | don't know what this "Le Terminale" app is | 09:41 |
| seb128 | keybinding is the same | 09:42 |
| seb128 | and Trevinho fixed the keybinding handling | 09:42 |
| seb128 | so you should be safe | 09:42 |
| * larsu doesn't use keybindings to start apps | 09:42 | |
| seb128 | you don't want to use code Trevinho wrote, right? ;-) | 09:42 |
| larsu | unless you count <Super>Term as a keybinding | 09:42 |
| larsu | seb128: I use it all the time for brightness/volume ;) | 09:42 |
| seb128 | the poor Trevinho is going to wake up wondering why he got so many pings during the night | 09:43 |
| larsu | he'll only see the last one (if that) | 09:43 |
| seb128 | well at least he's not doing the attente way | 09:45 |
| seb128 | getting notifications on his phone for IRC pings | 09:45 |
| larsu | in the middle of the night | 09:45 |
| larsu | because timezone | 09:45 |
| seb128 | yeah | 09:45 |
| larsu | I hope you didn't wake him up just now :D | 09:45 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:46 |
| seb128 | I need to learn to do it like Laney | 09:46 |
| seb128 | add some well placed _ | 09:46 |
| seb128 | L_aney | 09:46 |
| Laney | L/-\ney | 09:46 |
| larsu | Cru$her | 09:47 |
| larsu | background of software center also seems off to me | 09:47 |
| larsu | "What's new" "Help (mate-user-guide)" — err, thanks! | 09:48 |
| seb128 | well that's probably what's new in the archive (as package recently added) | 09:49 |
| seb128 | but yeah, might not be the best to suggest | 09:49 |
| larsu | clearly | 09:49 |
| willcooke | stupid window focus | 10:11 |
| larsu | Laney: pretty sure upstream doesn't care about gtkcalendar | 10:38 |
| Laney | push it then! | 10:39 |
| larsu | I thought about that | 10:39 |
| larsu | but I want someone to review this | 10:40 |
| larsu | if I broke something existing, people will be mad | 10:40 |
| larsu | (for right reasons) | 10:40 |
| Laney | who, if nobody cares? | 10:40 |
| larsu | it's being used in a lot of places still | 10:41 |
| larsu | but noone cares about changing its behaviour | 10:41 |
| larsu | (that u was for u, Laney) | 10:41 |
| Laney | uUu | 10:43 |
| larsu | I'll try pinging someone after lunch | 10:43 |
| larsu | which is what I'm going to now :) | 10:44 |
| Laney | I believe in your ability to handle it | 10:44 |
| Laney | !!! | 10:44 |
| Laney | lunch well | 10:44 |
| larsu | :) | 10:44 |
| larsu | thanks | 10:44 |
| === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland | ||
| davmor2 | willcooke: dell xps 13 on wily any idea what would stop the cursor resizing like it does on 14.04 with the dell install? | 11:37 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: I have the icons scaled nicely but still a tiny cursor :) | 11:38 |
| willcooke | davmor2, xps13 is intel gfx right? | 11:39 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: yeap | 11:39 |
| willcooke | I don't know how the cursor gets resized.. is it a compiz plug in perhaps? hikiko any ideas? | 11:40 |
| seb128 | I doubt it's compiz | 11:41 |
| willcooke | davmor2, how and where do you resize it on 14.04? | 11:41 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: I have the scaling set to 2 as it was on the original install, so the icons are the same kinda size as on my 1080p system but the cursor is still tiny let me grab a screen shot | 11:41 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: system settings → screen display the slider on the bottom | 11:42 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: on the 4k xps for the install it was slid to 2.0 which is what I have done on wily | 11:42 |
| davmor2 | hrmmm doesn't even show on screenshot that's not good | 11:45 |
| willcooke | no it wont | 11:45 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: ubuntu phone to the rescue | 11:46 |
| popey | wat | 11:46 |
| willcooke | hrm, so it doesn't resize the cursor on my 14.04 machine, and I didn't think it would anyway | 11:48 |
| willcooke | so I'm surprised it does on yours | 11:48 |
| willcooke | seb128, have you seen the scaling of the mouse pointer? | 11:48 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/xps-cursor-issue.jpg | 11:48 |
| willcooke | davmor2, that's pretty much what I was expecting to see. | 11:49 |
| willcooke | but it does work on 14.04 for you? | 11:49 |
| seb128 | davmor2, willcooke, there is a cursor-size gsettings key and there is a bug which seems to make things not pick config changes | 11:49 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: this is the xps default install so I assume that dell may of tinkered with it, let me reinstall it and I can take a screenshot there too | 11:49 |
| seb128 | going to try a fix | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: in theory the cursor should scale, but it doesn't unless you restart compiz... | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: because we need to change something in order to make it to reload the mouse settings... | 11:50 |
| willcooke | ahh | 11:50 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, do you write the cursor-size key? | 11:50 |
| Trevinho | I did | 11:50 |
| willcooke | davmor2, out of interest, did you log out and back in since you changed the setting? | 11:51 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: yeap | 11:51 |
| willcooke | then it's broken | 11:51 |
| willcooke | :) | 11:51 |
| willcooke | davmor2, mind logging a bug with your screenshot? | 11:51 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: it was working and now isn't not sure when it broke though | 11:51 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: sure | 11:51 |
| willcooke | thanks | 11:52 |
| Trevinho | well actually the resizing is done by both unity that says to unity settings daemon to resize... But it doesn't resize the one is using by itself | 11:52 |
| seb128 | davmor2, you can try to change gsetttings set org.gnome.desktop.interface cursor-size | 11:52 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| davmor2 | seb128: sure 1 second | 11:52 |
| Trevinho | that's what we change in unity | 11:52 |
| Laney | that was 1.0 for me | 11:52 |
| Laney | on scaling-factor 2 | 11:52 |
| willcooke | I just got to pop to the shops, brb | 11:53 |
| seb128 | Laney, what was 1.0? | 11:53 |
| seb128 | com.canonical.Unity.Interface cursor-scale-factor | 11:53 |
| seb128 | ? | 11:53 |
| Trevinho | weird | 11:53 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, ^ why that key? | 11:53 |
| Laney | yes that key | 11:53 |
| Trevinho | seb128: cause we need to remember what was the scaling set, and leave to the user the ability to override it. As we managed the gnome one | 11:54 |
| davmor2 | seb128: does that mean I'm trying to set the wrong setting? | 11:54 |
| seb128 | davmor2, dunno | 11:54 |
| seb128 | I don't understand why unity is duplicating keys | 11:55 |
| Trevinho | int cursor_size = std::round(default_cursor_size.GetInt32() * point_scaling * cursor_scale_); | 11:55 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, what key should change for the config to be applied? | 11:55 |
| Trevinho | where... | 11:55 |
| Trevinho | unsigned integer_scaling = std::max<unsigned>(1, scale); | 11:55 |
| Trevinho | double point_scaling = scale / static_cast<double>(integer_scaling); | 11:55 |
| Trevinho | seb128: we need to have a local setting in order to know what's the actual scaling requested by user, otherwise we can't figure out by just looking that the value set on gnome | 11:56 |
| Trevinho | It's all done here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12703678/ | 11:57 |
| seb128 | let's try https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=d4a833907f5ef0ef1e59b69faafb60293cc191d2 as well | 12:00 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so (I missed the request while writing) to change the config, you need to change the scaling factor from unity, or it will overwrite it... | 12:00 |
| davmor2 | seb128: Is there a way to get a list of all the keys? If so I will install 14.04 and get the list there and then do a fresh 15.10 and then we will have a comparison to work from does that make sense? | 12:01 |
| * Trevinho looks | 12:01 | |
| seb128 | davmor2, gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.desktop.interface | 12:02 |
| Trevinho | seb128: oh, nice. yes I guess we need that | 12:02 |
| Trevinho | not sure it will fix things for compiz though, but still | 12:02 |
| Trevinho | I had this in my list of things to study | 12:02 |
| davmor2 | seb128: and the same for com.canonical.Unity.Interface too I guess right? | 12:03 |
| seb128 | yes | 12:03 |
| davmor2 | seb128: right I'll hit it straight after lunch then the at least we can compare | 12:03 |
| desrt | good morning desktop! | 12:06 |
| didrocks | hey desrt! | 12:06 |
| didrocks | time for desert btw | 12:06 |
| desrt | good timing! | 12:06 |
| didrocks | exactly ;) | 12:06 |
| desrt | you'll be happy to know i'm pushing L9 :) | 12:07 |
| seb128 | hey desrt | 12:07 |
| didrocks | ahah, crazy dude! | 12:07 |
| desrt | hi seb :) | 12:07 |
| * desrt has 2'120'670/2'400'000 and is nearing the gold badge requirement | 12:10 | |
| desrt | didrocks: how far did you play this? | 12:10 |
| didrocks | desrt: not really, like a month in winter and not everyday, so not at your level for sure ;) | 12:10 |
| desrt | for me there are two interesting statistics in the game | 12:11 |
| desrt | sojourner: 22 days (i've been playing for 22 days) | 12:11 |
| desrt | trekker: 175km | 12:11 |
| desrt | i like this :) | 12:11 |
| desrt | ~8km per day | 12:11 |
| didrocks | interesting, you have the number of kilometers counted | 12:14 |
| desrt | this is one of the badges | 12:14 |
| desrt | next level is gold at 300km | 12:15 |
| desrt | probably i'll hit this one next, or the glyph hacking badge | 12:15 |
| didrocks | desrt: the issue at the time was like there were like 15 portals at most in Lyon | 12:15 |
| desrt | ah | 12:15 |
| desrt | ya. that's pretty crap | 12:15 |
| didrocks | so, you had to travel a lot :) | 12:15 |
| * didrocks submitted a lot of them | 12:15 | |
| desrt | for me there are 15 portals within about 2 minutes walk :) | 12:15 |
| desrt | and probably about 1000 (no joke) within 15 minutes | 12:16 |
| didrocks | heh, I'm still sad about the number of duplication there is nowdays | 12:16 |
| desrt | very few dupes here. in fact, i can't say that i've noticed a single one. | 12:16 |
| didrocks | duplicate* | 12:16 |
| desrt | playing in toronto is completely insane | 12:18 |
| desrt | nothing last more than a few hours :) | 12:18 |
| desrt | i have ~5-6 couchhacks depending on which particular random noise hits my GPS at any given time and i've been able to maintain this cluster for a couple of days now (with the help of kat and dave) | 12:19 |
| desrt | but other than that.... everything in downtown is really up for grabs at any time | 12:19 |
| desrt | looks like lyon got a lot more interesting, too :) | 12:19 |
| didrocks | yeah, so having too many portals made the game less interesting IMHO | 12:20 |
| didrocks | the fact that you own a place makes it better for defending | 12:20 |
| desrt | it's not too many portals that's the problem -- it's too many players | 12:20 |
| desrt | there are probably ~10-20 people who live/work in this area | 12:20 |
| desrt | who all think they ought to own it :) | 12:20 |
| desrt | it's also in a city block with 3 major transit lines of 3 out of the 4 sides :) | 12:21 |
| desrt | so you get a lot of drive-by zapping from people on trams and such | 12:21 |
| didrocks | heh, nice :) | 12:21 |
| desrt | oh look. someone is currently taking out my stuff in allen gardens. | 12:22 |
| desrt | oh well :p | 12:22 |
| desrt | i deployed that stuff yesterday afternoon. i'm surprised it lasted this long :) | 12:23 |
| * desrt grabs a coffee and a text editor instead | 12:23 | |
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| cyphermox | is it a known issue that notify-osd notifications in lightdm are completely black, unreadable? | 13:24 |
| Laney | yep | 13:26 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, known yes, but I don't think anyone looked at that yet | 13:37 |
| cyphermox | is there a bug number? | 13:37 |
| seb128 | though I suppose it's probably a new-gtk type of issue | 13:37 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, bug #1473269 | 13:38 |
| ubot5` | bug 1473269 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Wily login screen shows an all black notification bubble" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1473269 | 13:38 |
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| willcooke | It only seems to be before log-in for me. Once I log in they work ok. Same for you cyphermox? | 13:47 |
| cyphermox | yep | 13:47 |
| willcooke | oh, yes, bug clearly says "at login screen" | 13:47 |
| seb128 | willcooke, right, why I guess is "without a compositor" | 13:48 |
| davmor2 | seb128: right grabbed the files do you want me to throw them into a bug against something if so what? | 13:48 |
| seb128 | davmor2, well, if you have an issue you think is a bug report it against unity with the current behaviour/what you expect and the configs | 13:48 |
| davmor2 | seb128: will do | 13:49 |
| willcooke | larsu, did you lose your vol up/down blips too? | 13:50 |
| seb128 | he at least mentioned issues with those sound when remapping the keys | 13:50 |
| larsu | willcooke: no?! | 13:51 |
| larsu | *blip* *blip* *blip* | 13:51 |
| seb128 | larsu, I though you mentioned a fun bug/code effect | 13:52 |
| larsu | ah seb128 is right - but it was my fault, I had sound effects turned off completely | 13:52 |
| seb128 | like if you remap vol up/down the sound is still played with the multimedia keys even if they don't change it | 13:52 |
| seb128 | oh, ok | 13:52 |
| seb128 | well maybe willcooke has too? | 13:52 |
| didrocks | I have what seb128 said | 13:52 |
| willcooke | don't think so, this is on my test machine which is vanilla W | 13:52 |
| didrocks | says* | 13:52 |
| seb128 | willcooke, maybe your sound effect are muted like larsu had? | 13:53 |
| didrocks | but even after a dconf reset | 13:53 |
| didrocks | on the remapping | 13:53 |
| didrocks | oh right, my sound effects are muted as well | 13:53 |
| * didrocks doesn't remember doing this | 13:53 | |
| larsu | systems settings / sound / Sound effects | 13:53 |
| willcooke | wut | 13:54 |
| willcooke | same | 13:54 |
| seb128 | there you go | 13:54 |
| didrocks | larsu: did you remember muting them? | 13:54 |
| didrocks | willcooke: same question ^ | 13:54 |
| didrocks | I seriously don't | 13:54 |
| willcooke | no | 13:54 |
| willcooke | I'm going to re-install from the daily image and see if it's the same | 13:54 |
| larsu | I don't remember doing that either ... | 13:54 |
| larsu | maybe it's a default?! | 13:54 |
| willcooke | I'll reinstall and see what happes | 13:56 |
| willcooke | happens | 13:56 |
| larsu | desrt: do you have a second for this? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756134 | 13:56 |
| ubot5` | Gnome bug 756134 in gobject "Segmentation fault on calling g_simple_action_group_add_action with bad action constructor call" [Normal,Resolved: notabug] | 13:57 |
| larsu | I hate when small patches like this lie around forever | 13:57 |
| davmor2 | willcooke, Trevinho, seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1503699 | 13:59 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1503699 in Unity "HIDPI scaling not effecting cursor" [Undecided,New] | 13:59 |
| Trevinho | davmor2: I think we had one already | 13:59 |
| seb128 | davmor2, thanks | 14:00 |
| davmor2 | Trevinho: meh I added all the docs there but feel free to link it to another :) | 14:00 |
| Trevinho | davmor2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1295445 | 14:00 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1295445 in unity (Ubuntu) "Cursor size is not updated on HiDPI at intermediate UI scale levels" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:00 |
| Trevinho | well better https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1359211 | 14:01 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1359211 in unity (Ubuntu) "Mouse cursor tiny when hovering unity elements in high DPI mode" [High,Confirmed] | 14:01 |
| davmor2 | Trevinho: okay pick one bug and lets link them all to that one | 14:02 |
| willcooke | larsu, attente - could one of you add this to your list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/1473269 | 14:06 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1473269 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "Wily login screen shows an all black notification bubble" [High,Confirmed] | 14:06 |
| willcooke | It needs to be fixed before release | 14:06 |
| seb128 | it's a gtk 3.16 on non compositor issue | 14:06 |
| seb128 | (ld preloading old gtk fixes it) | 14:06 |
| seb128 | it does it under wmaker as well | 14:06 |
| seb128 | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=749637 seems to have hints | 14:06 |
| ubot5` | Gnome bug 749637 in Backend: X11 "No transparency in other window managers with compositor." [Normal,New] | 14:06 |
| attente | i can try bisecting it | 14:06 |
| larsu | woah I just had a weird deja vu | 14:06 |
| seb128 | "think it's because rgba is not enabled when the window manager doesn't support _GTK_FRAME_EXTENTS. This happens since 3.16." | 14:06 |
| larsu | read the bug | 14:06 |
| larsu | then irc | 14:06 |
| larsu | seb said the exact same thing | 14:06 |
| seb128 | lol | 14:07 |
| larsu | attente: I'm on it | 14:07 |
| willcooke | thanks larsu | 14:07 |
| larsu | seb128: ya I guess this is it | 14:07 |
| larsu | seb128: I wanted to remove that for a long time, but am still blocked by Trevinho | 14:07 |
| larsu | ah wait, that can't be it | 14:07 |
| larsu | we also don't have frame extents in compiz/unity | 14:08 |
| seb128 | well it's not csd windows in any case since it's notify-osd bubbles | 14:08 |
| larsu | right, and not gtkwindow | 14:08 |
| larsu | seb128: but we have compositing in the greeter, no? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | I don't think so | 14:09 |
| seb128 | we don' thave a wm there | 14:09 |
| larsu | but transparency used to work, no? | 14:10 |
| seb128 | it did | 14:10 |
| seb128 | it worked under wmaker as well | 14:10 |
| seb128 | and still does it if you ldpreload old libgtk | 14:10 |
| larsu | what's old for you? | 14:10 |
| larsu | 3.14? | 14:10 |
| seb128 | I guess it could be attente's bisect of the week :p | 14:10 |
| seb128 | I tried 3.12 because I had an old copy handy on disk | 14:11 |
| larsu | weird | 14:11 |
| seb128 | I could try 3.14 if that's useful | 14:11 |
| attente | lol, sure | 14:11 |
| Laney | 07/10 15:06:49 <attente> i can try bisecting it | 14:12 |
| Laney | HAHA | 14:12 |
| willcooke | feels like we should have a special section in the weekly news for "Attente's bisect of the week" | 14:15 |
| didrocks | attente, *ZE* bisecter | 14:15 |
| willcooke | didrocks, live session has normal volume blips | 14:15 |
| willcooke | probably aliens | 14:15 |
| didrocks | willcooke: really weird, I wonder if it's not another package or race creating this | 14:16 |
| didrocks | because if we are 3 thinking not having changed that… and it did change… | 14:16 |
| willcooke | I'll install and play around | 14:16 |
| attente | :D | 14:16 |
| didrocks | (personnaly, I prefer it off TBH, but that's personal taste ;)) | 14:16 |
| willcooke | :) | 14:17 |
| * larsu wonders how he can reproduce this problem without installing all the time | 14:18 | |
| willcooke | larsu, a hacky method might be to use snapshots of a virtual machine | 14:18 |
| willcooke | *on | 14:18 |
| larsu | hm, right | 14:19 |
| seb128 | larsu, what problem? the gtk one? | 14:21 |
| larsu | ya | 14:21 |
| seb128 | installing what? | 14:21 |
| seb128 | just jhbuild and LD_PRELOAD? | 14:21 |
| larsu | well yeah, but I need to restart the greeter all the time, right? (and log out..) | 14:21 |
| seb128 | not if you work under wmaker | 14:21 |
| seb128 | which is what I would do | 14:22 |
| seb128 | stop compiz, start wm | 14:22 |
| larsu | oh really? | 14:22 |
| seb128 | or icewm or whatever wm you like that's not a compositor | 14:22 |
| seb128 | yeah, that was part of the deja vu things I wrote :p | 14:22 |
| seb128 | wmaker (I assume any session without compositor) has the same issue | 14:23 |
| larsu | this is true indeed | 14:23 |
| larsu | hm, compiz restarts itself | 14:23 |
| seb128 | stop compiz? | 14:23 |
| larsu | oh wow this is awesome | 14:24 |
| seb128 | I think it's an upstart session job | 14:24 |
| larsu | unity7 is, yeah | 14:24 |
| larsu | thanks seb128 | 14:24 |
| seb128 | yw | 14:24 |
| larsu | I've got the best desktop now | 14:24 |
| * larsu needs to play with this before working on this bug | 14:25 | |
| seb128 | lol | 14:25 |
| larsu | it's got buttons in all the corners | 14:25 |
| seb128 | larsu, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/linux.png that was my desktop at school! | 14:27 |
| seb128 | I really liked the dock icons on the right, they were big enough to get useful content ;-) | 14:28 |
| larsu | haha | 14:28 |
| larsu | nice | 14:28 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, at least, the python SRU didn't break requests + ssl this time | 14:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, new SRU? or security update? | 14:37 |
| didrocks | security update | 14:37 |
| larsu | so ... the blur only works when compiz is running | 14:38 |
| larsu | I guess we just want opaque background on the greeter then? | 14:38 |
| seb128 | yes | 14:38 |
| seb128 | that's how it was before | 14:38 |
| willcooke | wfm | 14:38 |
| larsu | hm, I never noticed that :) | 14:39 |
| willcooke | who does syncing of tzdata-latest from Debian? | 14:39 |
| larsu | Laney | 14:39 |
| larsu | (me guesses, of course) | 14:40 |
| seb128 | willcooke, we are uptodate | 14:40 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/1503560 | 14:41 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1503560 in tzdata (Ubuntu) "Turkey delays winter time to 8th of November 04:00" [Undecided,New] | 14:41 |
| seb128 | yeah, that's not the most annoy part | 14:41 |
| seb128 | we have time before november | 14:41 |
| willcooke | ah, so that can just come in to W after release and it'll be sorted | 14:41 |
| seb128 | willcooke, right but http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/10/02/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t15:22 | 14:42 |
| seb128 | unsure how much of an issue that is though | 14:42 |
| seb128 | willcooke, to note that debian didn't do the 2015g update yet | 14:42 |
| seb128 | so we have nothing to sync | 14:42 |
| seb128 | seems usually infinity does the update, since it needs to go to stable branches as well | 14:42 |
| willcooke | I see, thanks seb128 | 14:43 |
| seb128 | yw | 14:43 |
| * willcooke stops poking around at random bugs | 14:43 | |
| seb128 | willcooke, you might ask to infinity if he's going to handle that update | 14:44 |
| seb128 | that would be useful, since Norfolk changes took action on sunday | 14:44 |
| willcooke | http://cdn.meme.am/instances/64673788.jpg | 14:44 |
| seb128 | which means some users might have a wrong tz data | 14:44 |
| willcooke | seb128, ack, will do | 14:44 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:44 |
| seb128 | larsu, http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jqJ_QZD5EbE/TxH98_IH5tI/AAAAAAAAARc/ZBRp25GG41k/s1600/new_email.png | 14:45 |
| larsu | thanks :) | 14:46 |
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| Laney | 07/10 15:37:45 <aurel32> adsb: I have uploaded tzdata-2015g to wheezy and jessie | 14:56 |
| Laney | how about that | 14:56 |
| attente | ok... i have a good and a bad | 15:08 |
| larsu | attente: I said I was on it | 15:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, good ;-) we still need somebody to do the SRUs/security updates through old series | 15:11 |
| larsu | attente: gtk_widget_set_opacity() ? | 15:11 |
| Laney | probably the person who always does them will do | 15:13 |
| Laney | :-) | 15:13 |
| attente | larsu: haven't bisected that far yet. you have the commit already? | 15:14 |
| larsu | attente: I think it's 4cf6edda5 | 15:16 |
| larsu | even though that's a bit early | 15:17 |
| larsu | attente: it is | 15:19 |
| larsu | ha! thinking > bisecting | 15:19 |
| * larsu drinks an espresso | 15:19 | |
| attente | larsu: you win this round... | 15:20 |
| larsu | attente: you've won a lot before ;) | 15:22 |
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| larsu | problem is I don't really know why this commit is a problem :/ | 15:38 |
| seb128 | larsu, maybe try asking mclasen if he has an idea? | 15:40 |
| seb128 | or Company | 15:40 |
| larsu | ya | 15:40 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, davmor2, willcooke, with the u-s-d fixes from https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-settings-daemon/xsettings-fixes-backport/+merge/273710 the cursor is doubled for new windows when setting scaling to 2, but yeah some parts are only fixed after a compiz restart | 15:41 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128. What's the next steps? Trevinho do you need to make some changes as well? | 15:55 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: did you say the new animals should be in the slide show on today's daily is still monkey and in yelp too | 16:00 |
| Laney | yelp is docs team | 16:01 |
| attente | the recent kernel breaks my graphics... | 16:01 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: no, I haven't done the upload | 16:02 |
| cyphermox | perhaps I should do it today, so it doesn't get forgotten | 16:02 |
| didrocks | have a good evening guys! | 16:02 |
| davmor2 | Laney: yeah but it's fun to blame cyphermox for everything ;) | 16:03 |
| Laney | agreed | 16:03 |
| Laney | but if you want to try to nudge them I suggest mailing their list :-) | 16:03 |
| davmor2 | Laney: I think cyphermox said there was a package already | 16:04 |
| attente | hi, has anyone cross compiled gtk+3.0 for armhf? i'm getting missing build-depends in a wily armhf schroot | 16:28 |
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| seb128 | ok, I'm done reviewing g-s-d plugins changes from git that are worth backporting | 17:15 |
| seb128 | sorry for the mps spam | 17:15 |
| seb128 | dobey, oh, I couldn't land the ubuntuone-client-data fixes through CI since the vcs isn't set up for that (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/InlinePackaging) | 17:17 |
| dobey | huh? | 17:17 |
| seb128 | dobey, I think it's basically adding a .bzr-builddeb dir and bootstraping and giving CI the right to commit | 17:18 |
| dobey | no | 17:18 |
| seb128 | dobey, seems like it was landing by autolanding before, not CI train | 17:18 |
| dobey | it is set up to land via CI train | 17:18 |
| seb128 | weird | 17:19 |
| dobey | is something complaining? | 17:19 |
| seb128 | dobey, I tried to do a landing this morning and the changelog included all the commit since 1 it looked like | 17:20 |
| seb128 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/InlinePackaging states that you need a " * Automatic snapshot from revision <rrrr> (bootstrap)" | 17:20 |
| seb128 | in the changelog to bootstrap | 17:20 |
| seb128 | also Mirv said that you need a .bzr-builddeb | 17:20 |
| seb128 | which it doesn't have | 17:20 |
| dobey | no we don't need a .bzr-builddeb | 17:20 |
| seb128 | k | 17:20 |
| dobey | what silo is it in? | 17:21 |
| seb128 | I did abondon the silo | 17:21 |
| seb128 | since Mirv suggested that the project needs bootsrapping | 17:21 |
| dobey | oh, well that makes it hard for me to see what the problem is | 17:21 |
| seb128 | dobey, https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-025-1-build/123/console | 17:23 |
| dobey | it was bootstrapped like 21 months ago | 17:23 |
| seb128 | was the jenkins job | 17:23 |
| dobey | ./apport/source_ubuntuone-client-data.py:20:1: E302 expected 2 blank lines, found 1 | 17:23 |
| dobey | that's why it failed to build | 17:23 |
| seb128 | wait | 17:23 |
| seb128 | I fixed that | 17:23 |
| seb128 | https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-025-1-build/124/console | 17:24 |
| seb128 | sorry | 17:24 |
| seb128 | dobey, it generated https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-025-1-build/124/artifact/ubuntuone-client-data_content.diff | 17:24 |
| seb128 | see the changelog | 17:24 |
| seb128 | oh | 17:24 |
| dobey | how was the silo configured? | 17:24 |
| seb128 | wily landing | 17:24 |
| seb128 | dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/486 | 17:24 |
| dobey | ok, that's a weird bug in ci train | 17:25 |
| seb128 | I should maybe have landed it with the buggy changelog | 17:26 |
| dobey | ah | 17:27 |
| dobey | yes | 17:27 |
| seb128 | but I assumed that it would not make the release team reviewer want to approve it | 17:27 |
| dobey | so the problem is that the version in wily was from before the changes were made so it would work in ci train | 17:27 |
| dobey | and ci train has a bug that causes it to generate insane changelog messages like that :( | 17:28 |
| seb128 | I guess we can manually upload/commit to trunk and next landing is going to be fine? | 17:28 |
| dobey | i can't say if that would be true or not | 17:29 |
| dobey | unless the bug in ci train code gets fixed, possibly not | 17:29 |
| dobey | i guess i could manually land your changes and do an upload and try | 17:31 |
| seb128 | that would be great ;-) | 17:31 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: yes, there's something to do in unity also... Or probably compiz. I've gave a look, but it needs more study | 17:39 |
| willcooke | ack. thanks Trevinho | 17:54 |
| willcooke | g'night all | 17:55 |
| dobey | seb128: ok, merged the changes to u-c-d trunk, and just uploaded (i think, been a long time since i've dput anything to archive) | 18:11 |
| seb128 | dobey, thanks! upload seems fine, it's in the queue, though it has some changes not documented in the changelog, let's see in the reviewer complain about those | 18:13 |
| dobey | seb128: "* Automatic snapshot (bootstrap)" entry covers that i think ;) | 18:16 |
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