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forty3hey05:20
thepeterso ... is there a way how to not send my number of caller id when making call?07:00
jgdxthepeter, not via the ui07:04
thepeterjgdx okay I didn't expect that :D07:04
jgdxthepeter, you could file a bug for that. If you need it right away, it can be done on the command line07:05
jgdxgiven that ofono actually implements it07:05
thepeterjgdx and through terminal? :P07:07
thepeterjgdx if there is a script which can be just run as is with turning on and off separate sim modems that would be easy enough for me (:07:11
jgdxthepeter, not exactly, but you could try $ gdbus call -y -d org.ofono -o /ril_0 -m org.ofono.CallSettings.SetProperty HideCallerId enabled07:13
jgdxI haven't tested that, though. Might fail.07:13
dholbachgood morning07:14
thepeterjgdx thx will try when I get to it (:07:19
thepeterI would like to learn how to implement these scripts into system07:20
thepeterin time of course :P07:20
thepeteruhmI meant  UI07:21
jgdxthepeter, cool, it all starts with a bug07:27
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Artemhi08:03
guest42315Artem, hi08:05
ArtemTell me please, Ubuntu Touch use Dalvnik?08:07
guest42315Artem, nope (c++/qml)08:09
jgdxabeato, hey, is HideCallerId supported?08:15
abeatojgdx, it should08:17
jgdxabeato, cool, we should really expose that08:18
abeatojgdx, but as usual must be supported by the operator too08:18
jgdxwe should start our own operating service08:19
abeatogoogle is following that track actually ;p08:23
jgdxhow hard can it be08:28
seb128jgdx, that's the spirit ;-)08:30
Artemi have ROM memory of my Ubuntu Touch Device, can i emulerat it?08:30
abeatoactually starting a mvno is not such a huge investment08:30
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Frappe Day! 😃08:50
Sleep_Walkerdoes Aquaris E4.5 support microSDXC cards (64GB)?08:55
Sleep_Walkerhave anyone tried?08:55
popeySleep_Walker: pretty sure ogra_ has put large SDHC  cards in his09:05
Sleep_Walkerwell, the question is about SDXC09:13
Sleep_Walkerbut if he tried cards bigger than 32GB, there was no other choice09:14
Sleep_Walkerogra_: can you please confirm that microSDXC is working?09:14
jgdxanyone here have lifx bulbs in their home, and an ubuntu phone?09:17
ogra_Sleep_Walker, i run a 128G SDXC card in my bq, works fine as long as you format it with the phone or manually as vfat ...09:20
lotuspsychjehow can i disable auto brightness dim on the BQ?09:23
lotuspsychjeits bit anoying when watching youtubes09:23
Sleep_Walkerogra_: excellent, thanks!09:27
Hugaohey guys!! I have a question, I have installed Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7 and it's awesome, but how I change my user name, I tried chfn phablet but it says "cannot lock /etc/passwd"09:42
lotuspsychjeHugao: default user is phablet09:43
lotuspsychjeHugao: wich channel did you install?09:43
Hugaolotuspsychje: yes I know, but i want to change the name that appears on the lock screen09:47
lotuspsychjeHugao: i dont think thats possible09:48
Hugaolotuspsychje: channel -> ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu09:48
lotuspsychjeHugao: best channel for n7 is devel-proposed so i hear09:48
Hugaolotuspsychje: hmmmm ok thanks for the tip09:48
Hugaothe stable it's working great so far09:49
lotuspsychjeHugao: yeah but i think devel-proposed it maintained better for tablets09:49
Hugaoalright I will try it09:49
Hugaothanks09:49
lotuspsychjenp09:49
lotuspsychjeHugao: on the bq same username /home/phablet09:50
Hugaolotuspsychje: The channel that you said is ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu-developer right?10:11
lotuspsychjedevel-proposed yes10:11
Hugaolotuspsychje: thank you10:11
thepeterjgdx is there kind of manual /API how to work with these properties on or.ofono?10:12
thepetercause it doen't know method SetProperty on ...CallSettings10:13
thepeterabeato as jgdx proposed I am trying gdbus call -y -d org.ofono -o /ril_1 -m org.ofono.CallSettings.SetProperty HideCallerId enabled on Bq5 pise mi unknown keyword:10:19
thepeterenabled10:19
lotuspsychjesomeone knows howto disable auto dim, its bit anoying when watching youtube i have to tap to get brightness back10:20
thepeterabeato sorry switching between too many languages :P so the script gives me that answer :P10:20
Hugaolotuspsychje: On the settings pane of the screen, there's an option to disable10:21
abeatothepeter, which answer? "enabled"?10:21
lotuspsychjeHugao: i dint have 'addapt to surrounding' enabled10:21
mcphaillotuspsychje: I'm not sure you _can_ adjust that yet. I think it is a work in progress10:22
lotuspsychjemcphail: tnx10:23
abeatothepeter, try first "/usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems |grep HideCallerId" to see the current value10:24
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Artema11:31
ogra_b11:33
guest42315c11:38
svijd11:38
popeyj11:38
guest42315err!11:38
svij#blamepopey11:38
davmor2svij: that's #blamepopeyâ„¢11:39
guest42315hm.. C is for Canonical! OMG google is buying canonical!11:43
svijguest42315: Alphabet, not google :P11:49
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guest42315svij, right :)12:01
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popeyJamesTait: at some point we need to discuss the UI of myapps, it's become almost unusably obtuse.13:32
JamesTaitpopey, I'm really not the best person to speak to about UI.  I suspect beowulf would be your best bet.13:33
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jgdx!seen jgdx14:43
ubot5`I have no seen command14:43
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GarheadeQuick question on the N7 Image. Is there no screen rotation or am I missing a setting?15:46
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ogra_Garheade, should still be there for apps ...15:50
dobeywhich N7 image? you're going to have to be a little more specific i think. there are multiple channels, and many builds15:51
Garheadedobey: I just installed the devel/ubuntu15:52
ogra_well, i guess all of them have the new shell nowadays15:52
ogra_ouch15:52
Garheadewait, not devel... rc-proposed15:52
ogra_dont use the devel channel anywhere15:52
ogra_ah15:52
ogra_and if you open a website in the browser it doesnt rotate ?15:53
dobeyok15:53
Garheadeogra_: you're correct, the apps do rotate, I just didn't do enough testing I guess.15:53
ogra_the dash being in landscape is kind of expected for tablets15:54
Garheadeogra_ what brought on that choice?15:54
ogra_ask design :)15:54
ogra_bug 146533115:55
ubot5`bug 1465331 in Ubuntu UX "[scopes] should Dash rotate" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146533115:55
ogra_there is an open bug/question to them here :)15:55
GarheadeThanks. I'll read up15:55
mcphailIs it still the plan to ocntinue with vivid/overlay when wily is released? What is going to happen with security updates when vivid is eol'd? Is everything going to be backported?15:56
ogra_likely15:56
mcphailsounds like a lot of work15:56
ogra_wily wont see phones ... wily+1 will though15:56
ogra_given the set of packages used to create the phone images is rather small i doubt it will be a lot effort15:57
dobeymcphail: well, the phones aren't using the wily kernel, so security updates in that respect would come from the android kernel getting them, not wily15:57
mcphaildobey: was thinking about things like NetworkManager etc15:57
ogra_mcphail, there is no reason why NM couldnt be just pushed to the overlay PPA from wily or wily+1 (until there is the switch to it)15:58
ogra_in fact i think that is what is happening already15:58
dobeyindeed15:58
mcphailaah. OK, cool15:58
ogra_and eventually (on the road to 16.04) snappy will sneak into the phones15:59
mcphailogra_: you couldn't resist :)15:59
ogra_:D15:59
ogra_i know popey is watching :)15:59
popeyI am?15:59
ogra_now you are15:59
popeynow I am15:59
ogra_mcphail, well, not sure the phone will actually be snappy by 16.04, but it is very likely that snappy will replace click until then16:00
ogra_snappy is marklar ... it has a million meanings ...16:01
ogra_http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=marklar16:01
mcphailogra_: yes, the .click/snappy layer wasn't worrying me. Rather the system image running unsupported software when vivid dies. Quite happy if it is all being backported in the PPA16:01
ogra_yeah, the teams will take care of that16:01
* mcphail is going to make a 1970's style square medal with the words "Snappy fixed it for me"16:02
ogra_+116:02
* mcphail thinks http://themcphails.uk/snappy.jpg should be added to the /topic16:24
mcphailWhat's the plan for the kernel when we move to wily+1. Will the old kernel be kept for driver compatibility?16:31
ogra_thats up to the HW ...16:31
ogra_we might switch to an android 5.0 base which likely brings new kernels16:31
ogra_(not sure, someone from the phone team would have to answer that)16:32
mcphailso devices without 5.0 will be left behind?16:32
ogra_well, as long as their hybris layer still works they wont16:33
ogra_(and preinstalled devices definitely wont be left behind)16:34
mcphail:) hooray!16:34
ogra_the above was more about ports :)16:34
dobeyogra_: we might as well switch to 6.0 now16:38
dobeyand just skip 5.0 entirely16:38
ogra_well16:38
ogra_if the devices have 6.0 trees16:38
dobeyyeah16:38
dobeyand 6.0 didn't break more stuff for ubuntu itself16:38
ogra_not sure if either meizu or bq plan to16:38
dobeydo they have 5.x trees?16:38
ogra_bq does16:38
dobeyhmm, seems even mako isn't getting 6.0?16:40
mcphaildobey: google tend to stop support for a phone after 2 major releases16:41
dobey"Marshmallow also introduces "verified links" that can be configured to open directly in their specified application without further user prompts."16:42
dobeylol, so they have url-dispatcher now16:42
mcphailimitation is the sincerest form of flattery16:45
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thepeterso what is proper way to set properties value (ofono.HideCallerId)?17:51
thepeteror better question why when I go "gdbus call -y -d org.ofono -o /ril_1 -m org.ofono.CallSettings.SetProperty HideCallerId enabled" - it gives me "unknown keyword: enabled" error17:57
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mariogripahoneybun: https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/2015-10-07-jpg.380150/ celluar on oneplus one :D :D23:11
popeyoooh!23:17
ahoneybunno signal though mariogrip XD23:21
ahoneybunit looks great on OnePlus One23:22
ahoneybunso device flash works with the One23:24
mariogripahoneybun: still working on cellular that is needed before i push an update, and yeah device flash works23:26
ahoneybunplease do post a updated screenshot on that forum or here... for me lol23:30

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