[05:20] <forty3> hey
[07:00] <thepeter> so ... is there a way how to not send my number of caller id when making call?
[07:04] <jgdx> thepeter, not via the ui
[07:04] <thepeter> jgdx okay I didn't expect that :D
[07:05] <jgdx> thepeter, you could file a bug for that. If you need it right away, it can be done on the command line
[07:05] <jgdx> given that ofono actually implements it
[07:07] <thepeter> jgdx and through terminal? :P
[07:11] <thepeter> jgdx if there is a script which can be just run as is with turning on and off separate sim modems that would be easy enough for me (:
[07:13] <jgdx> thepeter, not exactly, but you could try $ gdbus call -y -d org.ofono -o /ril_0 -m org.ofono.CallSettings.SetProperty HideCallerId enabled
[07:13] <jgdx> I haven't tested that, though. Might fail.
[07:14] <dholbach> good morning
[07:19] <thepeter> jgdx thx will try when I get to it (:
[07:20] <thepeter> I would like to learn how to implement these scripts into system
[07:20] <thepeter> in time of course :P
[07:21] <thepeter> uhmI meant  UI
[07:27] <jgdx> thepeter, cool, it all starts with a bug
[08:03] <Artem> hi
[08:05] <guest42315> Artem, hi
[08:07] <Artem> Tell me please, Ubuntu Touch use Dalvnik?
[08:09] <guest42315> Artem, nope (c++/qml)
[08:15] <jgdx> abeato, hey, is HideCallerId supported?
[08:17] <abeato> jgdx, it should
[08:18] <jgdx> abeato, cool, we should really expose that
[08:18] <abeato> jgdx, but as usual must be supported by the operator too
[08:19] <jgdx> we should start our own operating service
[08:23] <abeato> google is following that track actually ;p
[08:28] <jgdx> how hard can it be
[08:30] <seb128> jgdx, that's the spirit ;-)
[08:30] <Artem> i have ROM memory of my Ubuntu Touch Device, can i emulerat it?
[08:30] <abeato> actually starting a mvno is not such a huge investment
[08:50] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Frappe Day! 😃
[08:55] <Sleep_Walker> does Aquaris E4.5 support microSDXC cards (64GB)?
[08:55] <Sleep_Walker> have anyone tried?
[09:05] <popey> Sleep_Walker: pretty sure ogra_ has put large SDHC  cards in his
[09:13] <Sleep_Walker> well, the question is about SDXC
[09:14] <Sleep_Walker> but if he tried cards bigger than 32GB, there was no other choice
[09:14] <Sleep_Walker> ogra_: can you please confirm that microSDXC is working?
[09:17] <jgdx> anyone here have lifx bulbs in their home, and an ubuntu phone?
[09:20] <ogra_> Sleep_Walker, i run a 128G SDXC card in my bq, works fine as long as you format it with the phone or manually as vfat ...
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> how can i disable auto brightness dim on the BQ?
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> its bit anoying when watching youtubes
[09:27] <Sleep_Walker> ogra_: excellent, thanks!
[09:42] <Hugao> hey guys!! I have a question, I have installed Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7 and it's awesome, but how I change my user name, I tried chfn phablet but it says "cannot lock /etc/passwd"
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> Hugao: default user is phablet
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> Hugao: wich channel did you install?
[09:47] <Hugao> lotuspsychje: yes I know, but i want to change the name that appears on the lock screen
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> Hugao: i dont think thats possible
[09:48] <Hugao> lotuspsychje: channel -> ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> Hugao: best channel for n7 is devel-proposed so i hear
[09:48] <Hugao> lotuspsychje: hmmmm ok thanks for the tip
[09:49] <Hugao> the stable it's working great so far
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> Hugao: yeah but i think devel-proposed it maintained better for tablets
[09:49] <Hugao> alright I will try it
[09:49] <Hugao> thanks
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> np
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> Hugao: on the bq same username /home/phablet
[10:11] <Hugao> lotuspsychje: The channel that you said is ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu-developer right?
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> devel-proposed yes
[10:11] <Hugao> lotuspsychje: thank you
[10:12] <thepeter> jgdx is there kind of manual /API how to work with these properties on or.ofono?
[10:13] <thepeter> cause it doen't know method SetProperty on ...CallSettings
[10:19] <thepeter> abeato as jgdx proposed I am trying gdbus call -y -d org.ofono -o /ril_1 -m org.ofono.CallSettings.SetProperty HideCallerId enabled on Bq5 pise mi unknown keyword:
[10:19] <thepeter> enabled
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> someone knows howto disable auto dim, its bit anoying when watching youtube i have to tap to get brightness back
[10:20] <thepeter> abeato sorry switching between too many languages :P so the script gives me that answer :P
[10:21] <Hugao> lotuspsychje: On the settings pane of the screen, there's an option to disable
[10:21] <abeato> thepeter, which answer? "enabled"?
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> Hugao: i dint have 'addapt to surrounding' enabled
[10:22] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure you _can_ adjust that yet. I think it is a work in progress
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: tnx
[10:24] <abeato> thepeter, try first "/usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems |grep HideCallerId" to see the current value
[11:31] <Artem> a
[11:33] <ogra_> b
[11:38] <guest42315> c
[11:38] <svij> d
[11:38] <popey> j
[11:38] <guest42315> err!
[11:38] <svij> #blamepopey
[11:39] <davmor2> svij: that's #blamepopey™
[11:43] <guest42315> hm.. C is for Canonical! OMG google is buying canonical!
[11:49] <svij> guest42315: Alphabet, not google :P
[12:01] <guest42315> svij, right :)
[13:32] <popey> JamesTait: at some point we need to discuss the UI of myapps, it's become almost unusably obtuse.
[13:33] <JamesTait> popey, I'm really not the best person to speak to about UI.  I suspect beowulf would be your best bet.
[14:43] <jgdx> !seen jgdx
[14:43] <ubot5`> I have no seen command
[15:46] <Garheade> Quick question on the N7 Image. Is there no screen rotation or am I missing a setting?
[15:49] <maggots> quit
[15:50] <ogra_> Garheade, should still be there for apps ...
[15:51] <dobey> which N7 image? you're going to have to be a little more specific i think. there are multiple channels, and many builds
[15:52] <Garheade> dobey: I just installed the devel/ubuntu
[15:52] <ogra_> well, i guess all of them have the new shell nowadays
[15:52] <ogra_> ouch
[15:52] <Garheade> wait, not devel... rc-proposed
[15:52] <ogra_> dont use the devel channel anywhere
[15:52] <ogra_> ah
[15:53] <ogra_> and if you open a website in the browser it doesnt rotate ?
[15:53] <dobey> ok
[15:53] <Garheade> ogra_: you're correct, the apps do rotate, I just didn't do enough testing I guess.
[15:54] <ogra_> the dash being in landscape is kind of expected for tablets
[15:54] <Garheade> ogra_ what brought on that choice?
[15:54] <ogra_> ask design :)
[15:55] <ogra_> bug 1465331
[15:55] <ubot5`> bug 1465331 in Ubuntu UX "[scopes] should Dash rotate" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465331
[15:55] <ogra_> there is an open bug/question to them here :)
[15:55] <Garheade> Thanks. I'll read up
[15:56] <mcphail> Is it still the plan to ocntinue with vivid/overlay when wily is released? What is going to happen with security updates when vivid is eol'd? Is everything going to be backported?
[15:56] <ogra_> likely
[15:56] <mcphail> sounds like a lot of work
[15:56] <ogra_> wily wont see phones ... wily+1 will though
[15:57] <ogra_> given the set of packages used to create the phone images is rather small i doubt it will be a lot effort
[15:57] <dobey> mcphail: well, the phones aren't using the wily kernel, so security updates in that respect would come from the android kernel getting them, not wily
[15:57] <mcphail> dobey: was thinking about things like NetworkManager etc
[15:58] <ogra_> mcphail, there is no reason why NM couldnt be just pushed to the overlay PPA from wily or wily+1 (until there is the switch to it)
[15:58] <ogra_> in fact i think that is what is happening already
[15:58] <dobey> indeed
[15:58] <mcphail> aah. OK, cool
[15:59] <ogra_> and eventually (on the road to 16.04) snappy will sneak into the phones
[15:59] <mcphail> ogra_: you couldn't resist :)
[15:59] <ogra_> :D
[15:59] <ogra_> i know popey is watching :)
[15:59] <popey> I am?
[15:59] <ogra_> now you are
[15:59] <popey> now I am
[16:00] <ogra_> mcphail, well, not sure the phone will actually be snappy by 16.04, but it is very likely that snappy will replace click until then
[16:01] <ogra_> snappy is marklar ... it has a million meanings ...
[16:01] <ogra_> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=marklar
[16:01] <mcphail> ogra_: yes, the .click/snappy layer wasn't worrying me. Rather the system image running unsupported software when vivid dies. Quite happy if it is all being backported in the PPA
[16:01] <ogra_> yeah, the teams will take care of that
[16:02]  * mcphail is going to make a 1970's style square medal with the words "Snappy fixed it for me"
[16:02] <ogra_> +1
[16:24]  * mcphail thinks http://themcphails.uk/snappy.jpg should be added to the /topic
[16:31] <mcphail> What's the plan for the kernel when we move to wily+1. Will the old kernel be kept for driver compatibility?
[16:31] <ogra_> thats up to the HW ...
[16:31] <ogra_> we might switch to an android 5.0 base which likely brings new kernels
[16:32] <ogra_> (not sure, someone from the phone team would have to answer that)
[16:32] <mcphail> so devices without 5.0 will be left behind?
[16:33] <ogra_> well, as long as their hybris layer still works they wont
[16:34] <ogra_> (and preinstalled devices definitely wont be left behind)
[16:34] <mcphail> :) hooray!
[16:34] <ogra_> the above was more about ports :)
[16:38] <dobey> ogra_: we might as well switch to 6.0 now
[16:38] <dobey> and just skip 5.0 entirely
[16:38] <ogra_> well
[16:38] <ogra_> if the devices have 6.0 trees
[16:38] <dobey> yeah
[16:38] <dobey> and 6.0 didn't break more stuff for ubuntu itself
[16:38] <ogra_> not sure if either meizu or bq plan to
[16:38] <dobey> do they have 5.x trees?
[16:38] <ogra_> bq does
[16:40] <dobey> hmm, seems even mako isn't getting 6.0?
[16:41] <mcphail> dobey: google tend to stop support for a phone after 2 major releases
[16:42] <dobey> "Marshmallow also introduces "verified links" that can be configured to open directly in their specified application without further user prompts."
[16:42] <dobey> lol, so they have url-dispatcher now
[16:45] <mcphail> imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
[17:51] <thepeter> so what is proper way to set properties value (ofono.HideCallerId)?
[17:57] <thepeter> or better question why when I go "gdbus call -y -d org.ofono -o /ril_1 -m org.ofono.CallSettings.SetProperty HideCallerId enabled" - it gives me "unknown keyword: enabled" error
[23:11] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/2015-10-07-jpg.380150/ celluar on oneplus one :D :D
[23:17] <popey> oooh!
[23:21] <ahoneybun> no signal though mariogrip XD
[23:22] <ahoneybun> it looks great on OnePlus One
[23:24] <ahoneybun> so device flash works with the One
[23:26] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: still working on cellular that is needed before i push an update, and yeah device flash works
[23:30] <ahoneybun> please do post a updated screenshot on that forum or here... for me lol