[08:21] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:26] <davmor2> Classic today Shakespears Sister Stay
[08:27] <MooDoo> morning
[08:27] <davmor2> MooDoo: Ow am ya?
[08:28] <MooDoo> cracking mate, not bad at all
[08:29] <davmor2> is it just me that pictures MooDoo waving his plasticine fists either side of head doing a wallace voice when he says Cracking?
[08:36] <zmoylan-pi> break out the cheese and crackers for a test...
[08:38] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: I hear a distant cracker crumbling and the sound of a Cracking Cheese Gromit!
[08:41] <bashrc> wensleydale?
[08:41] <zmoylan-pi> what else?
[08:41] <Myrtti> white stilton mmmmmm
[08:46] <zmoylan-pi> then it wouldn't be wallace...
[08:47] <davmor2> nice piece of cheddar or Wensleydale
[08:50] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Frappe Day! 😃
[08:51]  * zmoylan-pi throws a soggy tea bag at JamesTait 
[08:52]  * JamesTait composts it.
[08:52] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2ICtCO8TCw
[08:53] <JamesTait> o_O
[08:54] <davmor2> JamesTait: Lipstick stains still on her coffee cup
[08:55] <JamesTait> Blimey, that's stretching.
[08:55] <davmor2> JamesTait: it was that or aggadoo again
[08:56] <zmoylan-pi> i used to use a random mp3s to wake me up till the theme of jaws was one mornings selction... gave up soon after that... :-)
[08:56] <davmor2> JamesTait: you come up with cappuccino day next and you'll see a stretch
[08:56] <davmor2> JamesTait: I might actually have to think about it
[08:57] <popey> http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/07/argos-uk-wide-same-day-deliveries/
[08:57] <popey> wonder if they have anything worth buying
[08:58] <zmoylan-pi> i buy a tonne of stuff from argos, usb drives, ext hard drives, laptops.  great bargins in the 2-3 weeks before a new catalog comes out
[08:59] <zmoylan-pi> and their returns policy isn't too bad.  went back with a dodgy seagate ext drive and replaced no quibble.  ditto a hp netbook which took a week to show an error saying it's hard drive was wonky.
[09:00] <zmoylan-pi> i also got a 5" kobo ereader their for €50 which was a bargin
[09:00] <davmor2> popey: I got my test router from there when pc world, currys, apollo, and maplins let me down with only having routers of £70+
[09:01] <zmoylan-pi> cheap, cheerful and good returns policy.  what else do you want? :-)
[09:01] <popey> interessin
[09:01] <popey> I never even think of shopping there
[09:01] <zmoylan-pi> it's kinda considered real working class but what does that matter when they have what you want?
[09:01] <davmor2> popey: I'm actually starting to think of it first again now and then compare everyones prices to theirs :)
[09:02] <zmoylan-pi> when i need something for the house or computing i check them first... then look elsewhere if i can't see something i like. easy to flip through paper catalog...
[09:03] <popey> well that's annoying.
[09:03] <popey> just found something i bought for 270 quid on amazon
[09:03] <popey> 200 on argos :S
[09:03] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: look online instead they have stuff in all the time that isn't in the paper catalogue
[09:03] <davmor2> popey: you're welcome
[09:03] <popey> oh, no, different model
[09:03] <popey> phew
[09:04] <popey> stand down :)
[09:04] <zmoylan-pi> true davmor2 but i like to have a shufty through paper copy as a habit
[09:05] <popey> yeah, my kids love flicking through the catalog
[09:05] <zmoylan-pi> they even have smart watches in their now
[09:08] <popey> i bought something from ebay and I'm worried it a) won't arrive or b) will be broken or c) won't be the thing it says in the description :S
[09:08] <popey> (it was supposed to arrive yesterday and didn't)
[09:09] <bashrc> don't sweat the small stuff
[09:15] <popey> heh
[09:16] <TwistedLucidity> popey: Did you use PayPal?
[09:16] <TwistedLucidity> If so, I have found them to be awesome when the seller messes up.
[09:17] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:17] <TwistedLucidity> As for Amazon, they're no longer always the cheapest (insert snide remark about VAT here)
[09:17] <TwistedLucidity> brobostigon: Greeting homonid
[09:17] <brobostigon> morning TwistedLucidity
[09:21] <TwistedLucidity> One thing I like about Argos is being able to order x,y,z and have it delivered to the local store; then I can collect it when out doing the shopping.
[09:22] <TwistedLucidity> That's much more convenient than having a delivery driver turn up at an unknown time and two large dogs charge the door to find out who this human is, why are they here and do they have any biscuits?
[09:24] <popey> TwistedLucidity: yes, but I want the thing :)
[09:24] <popey> it was 180 quid when I paid, i went back to look at it two days later and the price hiked to 280 quid
[09:24] <popey> which makes me wonder if they mispriced it
[09:26] <TwistedLucidity> If they actually took payment, that's their problem. If they were going to claim error on their part, you should have heard by now.
[09:35] <diddledan> morning
[09:44] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:02] <diddledan> joy: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/10/06/peeple-goes-into-hiding-to-retool-the-app
[10:03] <diddledan> it's not dead yet!
[10:04] <zmoylan-pi> but it's such a good idea that would never be used to hassle people /sarcasm
[10:06] <popey> "yay"
[10:30]  * TwistedLucidity creates 25,000 sock puppet accounts, votes self as "Most super-awesome person on planet", profit?
[10:31] <zmoylan-pi> remember to use real phone numbers, get them from a hacked database online :-)
[10:31] <popey> yay, windows support call
[10:32] <zmoylan-pi> 1) turn if off and on again
[10:32] <zmoylan-pi> 2) see #1
[10:32] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: The Ashley Madison dump good enough?
[10:32] <zmoylan-pi> that'll do nicely
[10:32] <Myrtti> 55 inch tv is scary after several years of 32 inch
[10:32] <zmoylan-pi> you could script it up in perl 6 TwistedLucidity.  it'll be a mark of the end times :-)
[10:33] <zmoylan-pi> having to turn your head to see different sides of the screen? :-)
[10:33] <popey> ooh, i have to press windows+r
[10:33] <TwistedLucidity> Myrtti: I recommend Mr. Scroggins' eye-expanders so you can take it all in.
[10:34] <zmoylan-pi> or sit further away so it occupies the same space the 32" did in your field of vision :-)
[10:34] <TwistedLucidity> I actually calculated our desired screen size based on viewing distance....
[10:35] <zmoylan-pi> outside the window of curry's? :-D
[10:35] <TwistedLucidity> One thing I don't get about "Peeple"...how can they guarantee "no negative reviews". Have people forgotten Scott Adams and his Dogbert character?
[10:36] <popey> my computer contains more than 1000 errors!
[10:36] <popey> according to this indian chap
[10:36] <TwistedLucidity> "TwistedLucidity's contribution had a lasting impact on copany profits."
[10:36] <zmoylan-pi> gosh! givee him the credit card number you just made up to fix it!!
[10:36] <TwistedLucidity> popey: Oh noes! Teh viruses!
[10:37] <popey> ooh, now I'm using msconfig
[10:37] <popey> I'm an expert
[10:37] <TwistedLucidity> I really should create a honeypot VM in case they ever call me.
[10:37] <popey> ditto
[10:38] <TwistedLucidity> Give it a desktop background with something like "Interpol Phone Fraud Task Force".
[10:38] <popey> ooh, there are stopped services!
[10:38] <TwistedLucidity> All I get are insurance scams. B-o-r-i-n-g-!
[10:39] <zmoylan-pi> have os/2 running in a vm and have them walk you through that :-)
[10:39] <TwistedLucidity> popey: Please tell us you are recording this.....
[10:39] <popey> sadly not
[10:39] <popey> home phone
[10:40] <TwistedLucidity> Poop
[10:40] <popey> ooh, transferring me to an expert
[10:40] <TwistedLucidity> An expensive expert....
[10:41] <popey> recording now
[10:41] <TwistedLucidity> He he he he
[10:41] <zmoylan-pi> talk really really slow....
[10:41]  * TwistedLucidity high fives popey
[10:43] <zmoylan-pi> put rick astley on in background... :-)
[11:00] <davmor2> popey: It's not a scam honest gov'nor
[11:09] <popey> well, that escalated quickly
[11:09] <popey> he called me an effing bar steward
[11:10] <davmor2> popey: hahahahaha
[11:10] <zmoylan-pi> now record the lenght of the call and next time it happens try and keep them on longer... :-D
[11:10] <davmor2> popey: he must have you on google + and know you ;)
[11:12] <popey> phoned me back :)
[11:13] <zmoylan-pi> though the best response was the guy who pretended to be cops at a crime scene and demanded to know what relationship the junk caller had with the person at the scene...
[11:29] <davmor2> popey: how the call back going?
[11:29] <popey> at one point he said I'm too stupid to own a computer
[11:29] <davmor2> popey: hahahaha
[11:29] <popey> accused me of stealing this one
[11:29] <zmoylan-pi> oh i don't own a computer, i rent mine :-P
[11:29] <popey> went a bit mental
[11:30] <popey> zmoylan-pi: oh, you're too stupid too, join the club
[11:30] <davmor2> popey: he really does know you then ;)
[11:31] <davmor2> popey: This is comedy gold it really is :)
[13:33] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[13:35] <popey> evening
[13:37] <bigcalm> Yay home time!
[14:50] <diddledan> popey I love those phone calls
[14:50] <diddledan> popey it's always fun to play stupid
[14:52] <diddledan> now where's my delivery>
[14:52] <diddledan> ?
[15:03] <diddledan> ergh: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9006988/Mass-suicide-protest-at-Apple-manufacturer-Foxconn-factory.html
[15:03] <diddledan> I'm glad that the environment is improving, but this proves how far we still need to go
[15:25] <diplo> thaty was 2012, think things have had to cahnge down there
[15:25] <diddledan> oh. then why did they tweet it earlier?!
[15:25] <diddledan> silly twitterers
[15:26] <diplo> I swear I just read posted date was 2012 when I read it a mo ago, I could be wrong
[15:26] <diplo> :D
[15:26] <diplo> By Malcolm Moore, in Shanghai12:04PM GMT 11 Jan 2012
[15:26] <diddledan> yeah you're right it definitely says 2012
[15:26] <diplo> Probably happened again :/
[15:27] <diddledan> but the twits mentioned it as though it was new so I read it and reposted it in here
[15:27] <diddledan> I didn't check the date :-/
[15:30] <awilkins> This is the working model we're being encouraged to adopt by Our Glorious Leaders!
[15:31] <awilkins> Presumably Health & Safety will have guidelines for the anti-suicide netting that will be required.
[15:31] <awilkins> It should definitely be up to BSI standards
[15:31] <diddledan> awilkins, espeially as the DWP is making suicidal folk return to work
[15:31] <awilkins> Next Trade Union Bill : attempted suicide only legal if 40% of your co-workers really hate you.
[15:32] <awilkins> Or you get 3 poor performance reports in a row
[15:43] <diddledan> lol: https://youtu.be/U-aVkMClvBs
[16:08] <Oli> Does anybody know about a bodged-and-recalled python3 update on 14.04 in the last 24 hours? I've just seen two questions on Ask Ubuntu about ending up on  the trusty-proposed version without enabling trusty-proposed.
[16:10] <popey> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500768
[16:10] <lubotu3`> Ubuntu bug 1500768 in python3.4 (Ubuntu Trusty) "python3.4.3 SRU break requests" [High,Triaged]
[16:15] <diddledan> so I'm leaving in 15 minutes and my parcel still hasn't arrived :-(
[16:18] <bashrc> #parcelangst
[16:20] <diddledan> haha, speak of the devil
[16:23] <Oli> Thanks popey!
[16:41] <davmor2> man the devil delivers diddledan stuff no wonder he's so evil ;)
[16:42] <diddledan> lol
[16:42] <diddledan> and I'm late leaving
[16:42] <diddledan> :-p
[16:42] <davmor2> diddledan: yeah but your smiling :)
[16:42] <Adriannom> hi. i have a fresh install of 14.04 using nvidia drivers. whatever screen resolution i set changes back to "auto" on reboot. how do i change the resolution permanently? write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[16:43] <davmor2> Adriannom: where are you setting it?
[16:43] <daftykins> you shouldn't have a xorg.conf at all
[16:43] <Adriannom> davmor2, nvidia-settings
[16:43] <daftykins> use the ubuntu display settings prog
[16:44] <Adriannom> ok, rebooting, brb
[16:46] <Adriannom> thanks guys that was it :)
[16:47] <daftykins> np
[16:52] <Azelphur> So good news on my Korean monitor escapade, I got my money back from lightnsale (The take my money and run guy) got a response from another eBay seller (dream-seller) and he agreed to give me 3% off for all 4 monitors. I'm also buying a newer model, the AMH A409U at only £30 more than what I would have paid for them off lightnsale
[16:56] <daftykins> that's good!
[17:04] <popey> davmor2: is your hudl2 busted? Mine (on reboot) is stuck on the hudl* screen, never actually finishes booting
[17:04] <davmor2> nope mine is good
[17:09] <popey> bah
[17:10] <popey> http://ttselectrical.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4011/related/1
[17:22] <popey> cleared cache, finally boots!
[17:22] <davmor2> popey: yay
[17:22] <popey> phew!
[17:23] <popey> Good on Tesco for having a decent support site geared towards idiots
[17:23] <popey> (like me)
[17:24] <daftykins> must take a fair chunk to do the app optimising step on those things if they're all encrypted as that page states
[17:53] <davmor2> popey: now come on it's not your fault you have no idea how to use computers and steal them
[17:53] <davmor2> :)
[17:55] <davmor2> popey: I hoped you clicked on the yes it was useful button
[18:44] <davmor2> just leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBYjZTdrJlA
[19:39] <diddledan> evening
[20:17] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[22:32] <diddledan> yesterday's agents of shield was fun
[22:33] <diddledan> just fini watching
[22:41] <zmoylan-pi> must gett his weeks muppets...
[22:41] <diddledan> meh
[22:43] <diddledan> drupal8 is now at RC status
[22:44] <diddledan> and some dude called max has a furry driveway
[22:45] <diddledan> (he called it: mad max's fury road)
[22:47] <diddledan> has there been a solar flare? (apparently the northerners can see the aurora as far south as prestatyn)
[22:47] <diddledan> and the brecan beacons are also able to see it
[22:48] <zmoylan-pi> people saying in ireland as far south as peoples republic of cork
[22:49] <diddledan> nasa are firing giant wily werewolfs into space again: https://www.ustream.tv/embed/13567824?html5ui
[22:49] <zmoylan-pi> i say we send a ship with putin, obama and cameron to sun to fix it
[22:50] <diddledan> I think we should bump them off first else they'll end-up politicising and removing the rocket's benefits
[22:51] <zmoylan-pi> we just label the rocket an illegal immigrant and they'll want to deport it from earth
[22:51] <diddledan> imagine the red tape if the vulcans arrived
[22:52] <diddledan> "what do you mean you don't have a passport?"
[22:53] <zmoylan-pi> one of my favourite lines from trek was paris telling the crew of tuvok trying to use pure logic to avoid a parking ticket
[22:54] <diddledan> lol
[22:54] <diddledan> avg are gonna sell your data: https://grahamcluley.com/2015/10/week-avg-flogs-web-browsing-search-history/
[22:54] <zmoylan-pi> went off avg a long time ago.  still have the t-shirt though :-)
[22:55] <diddledan> https://cdn-grahamcluley.pressidium.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/metadata.jpeg
[22:55] <diddledan> haha
[22:55] <diddledan> well done, eff!
[22:56] <diddledan> the whole video is here: https://youtu.be/BMwPe2KqYn4
[23:07] <diddledan> 10seconds
[23:07] <diddledan> it blew up
[23:07] <diddledan> :-p
[23:08] <diddledan> by eck it's fast