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pittio/15:00
infinity\o15:00
sil2100o/15:00
caribou\o/15:01
infinityslangasek: Do you mind if I s/pitti/cyphermox/ for the release sprint?15:01
infinitycyphermox: And do you? :P15:01
pittigreat! now infinity broke the nice wave pattern15:01
infinityI'm a terrible person.15:02
tdaitxo/15:02
sil2100You want them to... change nicknames for the sprint?15:02
sil2100wow15:02
barry~o~15:02
slangasekinfinity: hmm, give me a bit to think about it and we'll talk about it after the meeting?15:02
pittiça va ! je suis un Canadien maintenant !15:02
dokofirst budapest, then canada ...15:02
slangasek#startmeeting15:02
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Oct  8 15:02:58 2015 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:02
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:02
dokoI'll go last ...15:03
slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round15:03
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx)15:03
slangasekrobru pitti infinity sil2100 barry doko caribou tdaitx bdmurray slangasek cyphermox15:03
robruI win!15:04
robrulp:cupstream2distro15:04
robru- sometimes lp doesn't respond to a copyPackage even if it copies successfully. Catch & warn the resulting exception rather than exploding15:04
robru- fix (again) the performance regression when marking silos dirty.15:04
robru- support manual sources in dual silos properly.15:04
robru- discover ppa source names so users no longer need to type them by hand15:04
robru- fix race condition in publisher that was causing duplicate statuses in the audit log15:04
robru- clarify error when releasing wily trunk for vivid.15:04
robru- stop considering duplicate assignment attempts as an error, tell the user the silo is already assigned, and set bileto status correctly15:04
robru- force all dual silos to publish wily+vivid into overlay.15:04
robrulp:bileto15:04
robru- Auto-linkify bug numbers in description15:04
robru- Stop letting long lines overflow cards.15:04
robru- fix bug with comment box losing contents during page refresh15:04
robru- discover and display artifacts URL to user.15:04
robru- totally redesign web frontend, fixing many UX issues15:04
robru- allow people to limit searches to only active requests15:04
robru- increase audit logging to include when users edit requests15:04
robru- streamline some redundant logic between a couple db model classes15:04
robru(done)15:04
slangasekpitti:15:05
pittiautopkgtest:15:05
pitti - Correctly install main linux kernel for DKMS tests in LXC15:05
pitti - Don't clobber already passed tests with failures from new uploads (#1501697)15:05
pitti - Fine-tune tests triggered by gcc packages15:05
pitti - Make linux* depend on linux-meta* (#1498807)15:05
pitti - Discuss better/earlier autopkgtest coverage for silos with robru, slangasek, and jibel15:05
pittimisc:15:05
pitti - langpack-o-matic: Fix erroneously discarded languages, rebuild wily packs15:05
pitti - various bug fixes in networkd (#1500992), open-iscsi (#1501033), python-dbusmock, systemd (#1492546), udev (#795494 and others)15:05
pitti - postgresql: Prepare new upstream security/bug fix releases for all supported Ubuntu releases (#1504132)15:05
pitti - tons of tiny requests, mails, bug triage, and other catch-up after sprint week15:05
pittiEND15:05
infinity- Kernel SRUs15:05
infinity- Emergency kernel security update15:05
infinity- s390x bootstrapping15:05
infinity- Release prep15:05
infinity- Finalizing release sprint details15:05
infinity- Lots of queue reviews15:05
infinity(done)15:06
sil2100- Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails15:06
sil2100- RTM Status meetings15:06
sil2100- OTA-7 preparations15:06
sil2100  * Preparing the snapshot, coordinating translations, announcements15:06
sil2100- +1 maintenance, working through the list of FTBFS from the wily test-rebuild:15:06
sil2100  * Fixed unity-voice build failure15:06
sil2100  * Poked barry for syncing wheel to fix its FTBFS15:06
sil2100  * Requested sync of python-traceback215:06
sil2100  * Preparation of changes for ubuntuone-client-data15:06
sil2100  * Work on python-pysaml2 FTBFS - still a few failures left15:06
sil2100  * Check sponsor request for sflphone15:06
sil2100- Refreshed touch seeds, removing friends from the seeds15:06
sil2100- Play around with a new UI mockup for requests15:06
sil2100- Looking into possible solutions of displaying OTA tags on images15:06
sil2100  * Investigated the idea of an OTA map15:06
sil2100  * Looked into appending tags in system-image server json files15:06
sil2100(done)15:06
barrydebuntu: LP: #1501805; wheel 0.26.0-1; git transition in dpmt (it is happening!); research for LP: #1500768; pex 1.0.3-2 and 1.0.3-2ubuntu1 to unblock wheel promotion in wily-proposed.15:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1501805 in python-apt (Ubuntu) "Sync python-apt 1.0.1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150180515:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1500768 in python3.4 (Ubuntu Trusty) "python3.4.3 SRU break requests" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150076815:06
barrysystem-image: discussion, research, etc. around LP: #147556815:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1475568 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Use OTA terminology in system settings" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147556815:06
barryrecovered from a server crash, including landscape breakages (issue reported, diagnosed, resolved)15:06
barry--done--15:06
cariboudoko ?15:09
caribouor should I go next ?15:09
caribouBugfix :15:09
caribou- Bug #1496317 Wily failed kdump crash smb reviewed it. Minor fixes. Will need to be SRUed15:09
caribou- sosreport autopkgtests15:09
caribou- Memory leak analysis15:09
caribou- mpt2sas firmware version for Trusty15:09
caribou- 70-persistent-rule bug SRU15:09
caribouBooked flights for sprint15:09
ubottubug 1496317 in kexec-tools (Ubuntu) "kexec fails with OOM killer with the current crashkernel=128 value" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149631715:09
caribouDone15:09
tdaitxShort week:15:09
tdaitx1. US biometrics collection on last Thursday afternoon15:09
tdaitx2. US visa interview on Monday, flight to and back from São Paulo15:09
tdaitxCurrent/Past15:09
tdaitx- Squid bugs squash^W triage; was checking if my 3.3.14 update fixed any (no such luck), so I decided to spend a few more minutes in each to triage them15:09
tdaitx- Updated Squid3 from 3.3.8-1ubuntu16 to 3.3.14-0ubuntu1 (LP: #1502178)15:09
tdaitx- Fix mesa FTBFS; missing mirclient dependency on either mir-client-platform-mesa or on mesa's configure.ac (LP: #1503450)15:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1502178 in squid3 (Ubuntu) "update squid from 3.3.8 to 3.3.14" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150217815:09
tdaitx- Investigated fix for LP: #1073478; needs SRU15:09
tdaitx- Trying to get JDK-8073139 reviews up and running again15:09
tdaitx- Finished my Core Dev application wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TiagoDaitx/CoreDeveloperApplication)15:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1503450 in Mir "mesa FTBFS due to missing Requires in mirclient" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150345015:09
tdaitxNext steps15:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1073478 in squid3 (Ubuntu) "squid3 logrotate fails when squid is not running" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107347815:10
tdaitx- get icedtea 2.7-preXX packaged and building15:10
tdaitx- triage openjdk 7 to check which bugs have been fixed by icedtea 2.715:10
tdaitx- get some comments and endorsements for my core dev application15:10
tdaitx- verify OpenJDK 6 TLS patch (LP: #1482924)15:10
tdaitxWaiting/On hold15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1482924 in openjdk-7 (Ubuntu) "Regressions due to USN-2696-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148292415:10
tdaitx- waiting OCA to submit webrevs for 7093640 backport (set TLS 1.1 as default for JDK 6 and TLS 1.2 as default for JDK 7); not blocking anything for now, just waiting15:10
tdaitx(done)15:10
bdmurraysubmitted RT regarding updating apport on staging, prod retracers x 215:10
bdmurraydiscovered and fixed Traceback with apport on production retracers15:10
bdmurrayfixed different apport traceback with -dbgsym packages15:10
bdmurrayrewrite of cql async query for failed to retrace bucketing15:10
bdmurrayconfirmed that we are retracing less foreign origin packages on 12.0415:10
bdmurrayfixed privacy issue with LP: #149436115:10
bdmurrayupdate meta-release-proposed file for LP: #149702415:10
bdmurrayupdated meta-release files for the ubuntu-release-upgrader in vivid-updates15:10
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 1494361 could not be found15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1497024 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "release upgrades should jump over unsupported releases" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149702415:10
bdmurrayT, V SRU verification of LP: #149702415:10
bdmurrayT, V SRU verification of LP: #149819315:10
bdmurrayirc discussion re fix for LP: #1498697 (rejected upload in the queue)15:10
bdmurrayrls-w bug review15:10
bdmurrayuploaded update-manager fix for LP: #121511415:10
bdmurrayuploaded ubuntu-release-upgrader fix for LP: #131351415:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1498193 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Trusty) "demoted.cfg is a broken symlink in the upgrader tarball" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149819315:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1498697 in tgt (Ubuntu Precise) "Targets are not consistently shown with large numbers of targets" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149869715:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1215114 in update-manager (Ubuntu Wily) "_get_linux_packages function needs updating" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121511415:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1313514 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Blacklist entry for ubuntu-release-upgrader should be more specific so it doesn't match ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt if kubuntu-desktop is not the desktop meta package" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131351415:10
bdmurraytested and uploaded a fix for whoopsie bug LP: #138935715:10
bdmurrayretrace of autofs crash bug LP: #150303415:10
bdmurrayreported ubiquity LP: #1503441 regarding installer crashing with a 8GB install15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1389357 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "whoopsie reuses CRASH_DB_IDENTIFIER on next run" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138935715:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1503034 in autofs (Ubuntu) "Autofs 5.1.1-1ubuntu2 crashes with segfault on startup" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150303415:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1503441 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "8 GB isn't enough to install Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150344115:11
bdmurrayresearch into and uploaded ubuntu-release-upgrader fix for LP: #150252915:11
bdmurray✔ done15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1502529 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) ""Upgrading Ubuntu to version " not translated" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150252915:11
pittibdmurray: thanks for the -dbgsym fix, that also was the one breaking the tests15:11
bdmurraypitti: Ah, I didn't see that test failure.15:11
dokotdaitx, wait, is 2.7-preXX meant to be the next release, not 2.6.2?15:11
pittibdmurray: I didn't get it locally either, but during the CI autopkgtest run15:11
bdmurraypitti: Is there a way to subscribe to emails about those?15:12
pittibdmurray: not email, just XSS for now (http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/data/feeds/a/apport.xml)15:12
pittiemail notifications are coming15:12
slangasek * still working on recruiting for the open positions15:13
slangasek * discussions about improving the autopkgtest system use with silos and generally15:13
doko- finish libav/ffmpeg transition, remove libav from wily15:13
doko- finish libept transition15:13
doko- backported ppc64el and s390 support for libseccomp15:13
doko- hdf5 transition15:13
doko- looking at a python3.4 regression in trusty-updates15:13
slangasek * meetings: POWER, s390x15:13
doko- report a GCC memory hog upstream, found in insighttoolkit415:13
doko- fixing build failures15:13
slangasek * looking at juju on s390x to figure out if we will have performance problems there like we did on POWER due to memory pressure15:13
doko- prepared and started the test rebuild, buildd give backs15:13
slangasek * trying to figure out the system-image key rotation, it looks like we won't have quorum at the sprint so this will need to be done in London15:13
doko- one more GCC update15:13
doko- openjdk-7 and openjdk-8 updates15:13
slangasek * reviewed and tested the patches to bug #1439769, to land in wily15:13
doko- still trying to build gcc-snapshot on all archs15:13
slangasek * sprint travel planning15:13
doko- prepare python-greenlet and valgrind SRU's, validate them15:13
slangasek(done)15:13
ubottubug 1439769 in update-manager (Ubuntu Vivid) "various linux packages being marked as manually installed, still prevents 'apt-get autoremove' from doing the right thing for kernels" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143976915:13
doko(done)15:13
slangasekhmm :)15:13
dokooops15:13
slangasekcyphermox:15:13
tdaitxdoko, I'm trying to check that with andrew, but he is out this week, anyway I only saw 2.7-pre tags being added15:13
cyphermoxeep, I wasn't quite ready15:14
cyphermoxso;15:14
cyphermox - firmware update stuff15:14
cyphermox - upload ubiquity-slideshow15:14
cyphermox - fixed usb-modeswitch15:14
cyphermox - discussions/review for upstart-watchdog fixes15:14
cyphermoxand multipath bugfixes15:14
tdaitxdoko, anyway, he has released both micro and minor releases together in the past15:14
cyphermoxalong with random other things, I forget :/15:14
cyphermox(done)15:14
dokosee above: ^ ^15:15
doko(done)15:15
slangasekok15:16
slangasekany questions?15:16
slangasekinfinity: maybe you want to discuss the python3.4 SRU15:16
barryslangasek: key rotation!15:16
caribouCan someone sponsor LP: #127346215:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1273462 in lsb (Ubuntu Trusty) "Users can mistakenly run init.d scripts and cause problems if an equivalent upstart job already exists" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127346215:16
caribouthat's the bug we discussed extensively a while back15:16
infinitydoko: You missed the conversation barry and I just had on mumble, but I think the sane way forward is to back out that one commit in python3.4 itself, rather than try to fix all the rdeps to cope with it.15:16
infinitydoko: Interface/defaults changes like that aren't particularly SRU-friendly (and there's no guarantee we won't break third-party code, even if we fixed everything we ship in the distro).15:17
barryinfinity, doko i'm going to bring this up as a general point of discussion on the new linux-sig@python.org15:17
bdmurrayPlease have a look at the rls-w-tracking bugs - http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html15:17
dokowait, which commit?15:17
infinitydoko: The bit that changes the behaviour incompatibly. :P15:18
pittibdmurray: wow, what happened with the kernel bugs? > 1.50015:18
dokoI'm lost ...15:18
barrydoko: this is for LP: #1500768 and it's related to 3.4.3 changes for PEP 476.15:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1500768 in python3.4 (Ubuntu Trusty) "python3.4.3 SRU break requests" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150076815:19
bdmurraypitti: Its all those CVEs I guess15:19
barrydoko: you might want to join linux-sig if you're not already, or read it via gmane15:20
slangasekcaribou: I'm willing to sponsor bug #1273462 but then I wonder if anyone else will approve the SRU :)15:20
ubottubug 1273462 in lsb (Ubuntu Trusty) "Users can mistakenly run init.d scripts and cause problems if an equivalent upstart job already exists" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127346215:20
caribouslangasek: I can ping arges about it15:20
pittihow about I sponsor, you approve? :-)15:21
dokobarry, there's nothing about this on the ml ... https://mail.python.org/pipermail/linux-sig/2015-October/thread.html15:22
barrydoko: not yet :)15:23
slangasekdoko: are you ok with infinity's suggestion, to back out the behavior change?15:23
pittihttps://xkcd.com/1172/15:24
dokoslangasek, I didn't nail it down to a single commit yet. so if he has the commit, that's fine. however reverting the whole pep commit is probably not the right solution15:24
barryi don't know which commit it is15:25
infinitydoko: Oh, I was using "commit" in the abstract sense, I don't have a pointer, sorry.15:25
infinitydoko: But if it's just a default flag being inverted, as barry suggests, it should be a 1-liner to revert the behaviour, I'd hope.15:26
* doko goes back to work on that15:26
infinity(But, y'know, python, so who knows)15:26
slangasekdoko: ok.  as various folks have pointed out, rolling back the package from -updates doesn't help the users that have already upgraded over the two weeks that the package was in -updates; so if we're all agreed that reverting this change is a sensible path forward, and if you can prioritize working on it, that would be excellent15:26
dokosure15:26
slangasekthanks15:26
barrythanks15:26
dokoone more thing, ftbfs ...15:27
dokothere are still plenty ...15:27
infinitybarry, doko: I don't think identifying "the commit" is all that important, if you can find the magic 1-liner required to invert the default and that fixes the problem, yay.15:27
slangasek[TOPIC] Releees15:27
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Releees
barrypep 476 has more information in the Implementation section15:28
slangasekdoko: current pointer for the ftbfs list?15:28
cyphermoxwe have a scary werewolf in the slideshow since today.15:28
slangasekthere's http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151001-wily.html15:28
slangasekwhich doesn't have many interesting packages on it; there's some GL package I've never heard of failing to build on two architectures? glibc, anyone heard of it?15:29
bdmurraycyphermox: do you have a link to the scariness?15:29
infinitycyphermox: Oh, did you do my usual gimping?  Should I review it? :P15:29
cyphermoxbdmurray: just a sec; fetching the werevervet.15:29
cyphermoxftbfs are more important though ;)15:30
infinityslangasek: The glibc failures are probably just some racy tests, but I'll look.15:30
pittislangasek: yes, I think the other day the kernel warned me while it saw a double-free that it detected a glibc; that glibc thingy is likely the culprit!15:30
cyphermoxbdmurray: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html/revision/71915:30
slangasekdoko: fwiw shim is on that list and will be fixed the next time we need to upload shim for other reasons and not before15:30
slangasekpitti: these people and their newfangled GL extensions15:31
dokoslangasek, ok, I'll make a note15:31
dokoand there are packages stuck in -proposed ... http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html15:31
slangasekyaboot ftbfs, solution: remove it from main15:31
infinityAhh, yeah, both those glibc tests are known-flaky.  Need to fix those upstream once and for all.15:31
infinityyaboot it on my hitlist, but I failed to find time to switch ppc to grub this cycle.  Maybe I can do it before release for kicks. :P15:32
cyphermoxdoko: I'll look at shim when I get to upload it next, I guess. the bug is already assigned to me.15:32
pittidoko: did all of these build just once, or twice? i. e. is it still likely to find a lot of flakiness there, or are these more or less "stable" failures?15:33
pittiI've seen a lot of "please retry foo" requests on IRC recently15:33
pittinot that they wouldn't be important to fix, but I guess they are a bit less urgent than the stable FTBFS15:33
dokopitti, look at the build date. main finished around Oct 315:33
slangasekpitti: if they've built at all they're considered good for these purposes.  Given the number of consistently-failing builds, getting flaky builds to be non-flaky isn't the priority15:34
dokoI can give back the amd64 and i386 builds, sure15:34
barrythat's part of the problem, and i saw it repeatedly in the py35asdefault ppa.  one fix can cascade a bunch of other fixes if you do a mass retry15:34
pittiright; I wonder about e. g. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/219449079/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-i386.gnutls28_3.3.15-5ubuntu2_BUILDING.txt.gz15:34
infinityslangasek: Oh, ouch, that yaboot explosion is actual work to fix.  e2fslibs forced a sad.15:34
pittisuch things (failure of one test case named "mini-loss-time") certainly smell flaky-ish15:34
slangasekinfinity: grub!15:35
infinityslangasek: On the flip side, yaboot has never had a CVE in the history of ever, so still low prio to care if it builds. :P15:35
slangasekmore important question, why are there ruby packages in the core packageset15:35
infinityslangasek: grub2 is definitely the right answer, though.  I need to sidegrade my PowerStation to grub from yaboot and make sure that's working before I try to flip the installers/ISOs/world.15:35
infinity(Also need to hunt down community people with Macs, since Apple's OF is far more likely to break than the SLOF on my machine)15:36
dokonext time I'll do the test rebuild as a group, so that more people can give back build15:37
dokos15:37
slangasekbarry: looking at http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151001-wily.html#core there's really not a whole lot of cascading to be done fwiw15:37
slangasekdoko: you just need to rope the TB members into doing the give-backs for you, apparently15:37
dokoheh15:38
pittislangasek: wow, ruby-flexmock is in the extra seed15:38
pittioh, gem2deb is in main15:39
pittithat probably pulls in tons of stuff15:39
slangasekpitti: "in main" != "in the core packageset"15:39
dokoI already remove a lot of deps from gem2deb15:39
infinityslangasek: "in the core packageset" just means it's an intersection of more than one flavour.  Which is likely, if ruby is being trasitively pulled in by something lowish in the stack.15:40
slangasekinfinity: gem2deb isn't low in the stack, ruby has only ever been in main because of server15:40
slangasekand chef+puppet15:40
dokoyes, still need write that email ...15:40
slangasek:)15:41
pittithose, and xapian-bindings15:41
pittiand subversion15:41
dokoI don't think we can remove the whole ruby from main, even if we demote chef+puppet15:42
slangasekI'm not sure why subversion is in main either15:42
slangasekanyway15:42
slangasekftbfs bugs15:42
slangasekpeople will work on them yes?15:43
dokopitti, gnutls ftbfs persists15:43
barryyes15:43
infinityAll popular version control systems were in main pretty much since Ubuntu's inception.15:43
dokojust mention on #ubuntu-devel which one you are starting to work on ...15:43
infinityMight be worth revisiting now that the world has (mostly) settled on git as the winner.15:43
pittislangasek: that finally is something which we can change -- it's still in supported-development seed, probably for hysterical raisins?15:43
barry+115:43
pittislangasek: it might have made sense in 2005, but probably not any more15:43
* pitti sighs reading/tracking germinate output15:44
pittiand it's not like it'd go very far if we demote it15:44
pittioh dear, we still have *cvs* in main15:44
slangasekyes, I think I suggested culling subversion already a while back; though I guess one of the git bridges might care about it15:44
pitti(seeded)15:45
pittibut not tla -- outrageous!15:45
infinitypitti: Right, CVS was there for the same reason.15:45
infinitypitti: tla was dropped like a hot potato when bazaar happened, because reasons.15:45
barryinfinity: can you add RCS support please?15:45
infinitybarry: If you have CVS, you have RCS.  Oh, except not, it's only a suggests.15:46
pittiah yes, git build-deps on cvs argh15:46
infinitybarry: But, really, CVS is just a "user-friendly" RCS. :P15:46
pittiso even unseeding it wouldn't help15:46
infinityFor some definition of "friendly".15:46
barryprobably "less user-antagonistic"15:46
infinitypitti: We waste exactly zero effort on "maintaining" CVS, so it doesn't really matter.15:47
infinitySVN is a bit more of a time suck, but then there's the discussion of "would we really stop maintaining it just because it's in universe?"15:47
slangasekI don't think we need to loop over the germinate output in realtime here15:47
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:47
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
slangasekanything else today?15:47
barrymonday is a usa holiday but i will probably swapday it15:47
cyphermoxyeah. monday holiday in Canada too.15:48
slangasekah, I'm taking my holiday, don't want to miss out on that Canadian cranberry sauce15:48
cyphermoxI don't think Catou will want me to swap it15:48
infinityslangasek: Just want to resolve the cyphermox/sprint thing before we forget.  Should we take that to mumble?15:48
cyphermoxslangasek: make your own!15:48
infinityAnd I'll probably take Monday off to go cast a few dozen votes against Harper.15:49
cyphermoxcranberry sauce is so easy and delicious to make :)15:49
slangasekinfinity: we should take it to post-meeting, at least15:49
infinityYay, advanced polls.15:49
cyphermoxinfinity: oh, good plan.15:49
infinitycyphermox: Yeah, if you're sprinting, you'll miss the election, so do vote this weekend. :)15:49
cyphermoxtoo bad I was planning to go up north this weekend :/15:50
cyphermoxI don't have any OB.15:51
slangasek#endmeeting15:52
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slangasekthanks, all!15:52
caribouthanks slangasek !15:52
barrythanks!15:52
pittithanks everyone15:52
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