[00:32] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: how is the battery?
[00:33] <popey> mariogrip: so, should I get a OPO? :)
[00:34] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: haven't tested much on the battery, but it seems to be good
[00:34] <mariogrip> popey: yeah :D
[00:34] <popey> :)
[00:41] <aherrns> Hi everyone! Greetings from Paraguay
[00:42] <aherrns> Got a question: I have bought an ASUS T300 chi, planning to format it and install ubuntu touch
[00:42] <aherrns> Any idea of how to? The only instructions I have are for an ANDROID TABLET. And this is a windows one.
[00:45] <ahoneybun> !Devices ahayzen
[00:45] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, o/
[00:45] <ahoneybun> opps
[00:45] <ahoneybun> sorry
[00:45] <ahoneybun> o/ anyway
[00:45] <ahayzen> too slow ;-) hehe
[00:47] <ahoneybun> yep
[00:47]  * ahoneybun is gaming
[00:49] <ahayzen> :-)
[06:42] <bshah> hi, can anyone tell me what custom patches are applied in clockworkmod recovery?
[07:25] <Mirv> yay, I managed to fix video playback with Qt 5.5
[07:36] <Mirv> bshah: sorry, I've no idea about those parts of Ubuntu phone, but I wonder if the Android source package has any answers? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/20150818-1500-0ubuntu2 . With some quick googling, I didn't find anything directly mentioning clockworkmod, that's why it's a guess.
[07:37] <Mirv> I'm afraid we'd need someone more knowledgeable in those parts for the real answer
[07:37] <bshah> okay, thanks anyway
[07:42] <dholbach> good morning
[09:09] <jppiiroinen> o/
[09:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy World Sight Day! 😃   👓   👁
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:53] <Saviq> ogra_, did you get a mail reject msg from yahoo after you posted to phone ML?
[10:53] <ogra_> Saviq, nope
[10:54] <Saviq> I got two earlier today (but late, like 20 mins later), let's see if it comes again, looks like a user has trouble with mail fwds
[10:54] <Saviq> yeah just got one more :/
[10:59] <popey> yeah, i got one the other day
[11:02] <Saviq> popey, can you unsubscribe https://launchpad.net/~cohensam from the list?
[11:02] <Saviq> popey, I tried contacting him directly, but got the same rejections
[11:13] <popey> Saviq: is he the one bouncing?
[11:13] <Saviq> popey, afaics, yes
[11:13] <Saviq> popey, https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=cohensamm
[11:13] <ogra_> funny that i dont get these bounces
[11:14] <Saviq> ogra_, it's yahoo that's dumb, sending bounces to list posters' emails...
[11:15] <ogra_> hmm, perhaps google filters it for me ... my @ubuntu.com account gets routed through gmail
[11:16] <popey> Saviq: seems I can't. pat can
[11:16] <Saviq> popey, k, tx, will talk to him later
[11:34] <guest42315> unsubscribing ubuntu phone mailing list... too much spam. the whole concept of mailing list is weird o_O. we need something better than mailing lists
[11:34]  * guest42315 EWWWW mailing lists 
[11:34] <Kniple> mailing lists are pretty nice
[11:35] <guest42315> yeah.. not for me, sorry
[11:36] <popey> developers tend to like mailing lists
[11:36] <Sleep_Walker> :D
[11:37] <guest42315> ^^ some developers, maybe
[11:37] <popey> meh
[11:37] <guest42315> eww
[11:37] <popey> we get it, move on
[11:37] <tathhu> ayyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[11:38] <tathhu> guest42315, thanks, gotta unsub from sailfishos mailing list :P last time i've read it was like 6months ago
[11:39] <guest42315> :))
[11:39] <guest42315> popey, maybe we should have something else for people who don't like mailing lists
[11:39] <guest42315> popey, but i don't know what
[11:40] <guest42315> oh well. i don't really care that much :))
[11:40] <popey> we do
[11:40] <popey> we have basically _every_ other method there is
[11:40] <popey> but the fact is developers congregate on mailing lists, you _won't_ move them
[11:40] <k1l> isnt there a section in ubuntuforums or  discourse or askubuntu?
[11:40] <popey> yes, all of those
[11:41] <k1l> reddit got one too, iirc :)
[11:41] <popey> http://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/phone-and-tablet
[11:41] <popey> yes, exactly, plenty of places
[11:42] <guest42315> popey, i don't want to move anyone from mailing lists :)) i just unsubscibed because i get too much spam and i don't like the concept. if people like mailing lists good for them
[11:42] <popey> its not spam, it's email
[11:42] <guest42315> yeah email spam
[11:42] <popey> le sigh
[11:42]  * popey goes back to doing other things
[11:43]  * k1l goes back to writing emails
[11:43] <k1l> ;p
[11:43] <guest42315> :)) you people do really love mailing lists :))
[11:43]  * guest42315 back to beer
[11:45] <ogra_> popey, Saviq oooh, i just got an aol reject mail for cohensamm, so yes, i get it too ...
[11:46] <Saviq> ogra_, yup, will unsubscribe him when Pat's around
[11:46] <ogra_> yeah
[12:42] <mpt> mandel, hi, should bug 1215901 still be In Progress?
[12:42] <ubot5`> bug 1215901 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Additional errors message in system update ui" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215901
[13:42] <jfred> okay now that's gonna get annoying... how do you dismiss a calendar notification?
[13:43] <jfred> the notification goes away when I unlock the phone, then it reminds me again a few minutes later -_-
[14:31] <matv1> wrt to the discussion mardy started yesterday and specifically popeys call for a need for some kind of overlay application for monitoring network activity (because 'networking' is a default grant for a clickapp): I feel we really need to strive for RARC-blocking networking across the line. It that something that would be possible?
[14:32] <mpt> awe_, alecu, pete-woods, charles: I tweaked the network activity indicator spec following our call. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking?action=diff&rev2=301&rev1=300>
[14:33] <awe_> thanks mpt!
[15:02] <alecu> mpt: thanks!
[15:04] <mpt> matv1, where can I find out about “RARC blocking”? Google shows me nothing relevant
[15:04] <matv1> Have you looked at popeys screenshot?
[15:05] <matv1> Rick Astly Related Content
[15:05] <matv1> user safety in mind ;)
[15:06] <matv1> I guess I will need to file a bug
[15:06] <popey> :)
[15:08] <mpt> No wonder I couldn’t find it
[15:09] <matv1> sorry mpt ;) popey made me do it
[16:35] <dragos> hi guys i find "ubuntu for android" not "ubuntu on android"
[16:36] <dragos> how can i install it
[16:36] <dragos> ubuntu for android
[16:38] <awe_> dragos, you can't... it was a special project which only ran on limited hw
[16:38] <awe_> and is not actively being developed anymore
[16:38] <dragos> but i really need it
[16:39] <jfred> why?
[16:39] <awe_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_for_Android
[16:39] <dragos> because my phone dosent supoort ubuntu touch
[16:39] <awe_> dragos, whether you need it or not, it's not available, so it's a moot point
[16:39] <dragos> of im trying to port ubuntu touch on my phone
[16:39] <dragos> but i get: breakfast command not found
[16:42] <dragos> awe_
[16:43] <dragos> im using ubuntu 14.04
[16:47]  * thepeter_ would like to know why "enabled" is unknown when trying to assign vaule by 'gdbus call -y -d org.ofono -o /ril_1 -m org.ofono.CallSettings SetProperty HideCallerId enabled' on his bq5
[16:48] <dragos> can somebody help me?
[16:58] <dragos> how can i install ubuntu on android
[16:58] <dragos> or ubuntu on phone?
[18:18] <mhall119> sil2100: popey asked me to file this and poke you about it https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1504259
[18:18] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1504259 in Canonical System Image "rc-proposed images using old terminal" [Undecided,New]
[18:19] <sil2100> mhall119: ah, yessssssss... yeah, that one is 'sort of' in progress :)
[18:20] <sil2100> mhall119: penk, the person that's responsible for our krillin and arale custom tarballs, was supposed to pick up the mako tarballs and update them
[18:20] <sil2100> But I suppose he has a bit too much work right now
[18:20] <sil2100> Actually, since I made the ubuntu-pd tarball, I suppose I could pick that up too
[18:23] <mhall119> thanks sil2100
[18:43] <dhbiker> um
[18:44] <dhbiker> keyboard doesn't pop up
[18:44] <dhbiker> any shortcut for that ?
[18:45] <ogra_> power button ...
[18:45] <ogra_> (hold til reboot i mean)
[18:45] <dhbiker> ah
[18:46] <ogra_> is that o the stable channel ?
[18:46] <dhbiker> rc
[18:46] <ogra_> thats bad
[18:46] <ogra_> pmcgowan, ^^
[18:48] <pmcgowan> hmmm?
[18:48] <ogra_> keyboard not popping up on rc image
[18:48] <pmcgowan> dhbiker, what lead to that?
[18:48] <pmcgowan> do you know
[18:49] <dhbiker> not really... only thing the phone did was open few docs... wifi switching and music playing
[18:49] <pmcgowan> where were you trying to use the keyboard
[18:49] <dhbiker> anywhere
[18:49] <dhbiker> not popping up on messages
[18:49] <pmcgowan> yuck
[18:50] <dhbiker> web browser
[18:50] <dhbiker> nada
[18:50] <pmcgowan> dhbiker, do you have a crash file
[18:50] <pmcgowan> maybe for maliit
[18:50] <pmcgowan> bfiller, this familiar at all?
[18:50] <dhbiker> if you tell me where can i find it
[18:50] <dhbiker> maybe :D
[18:51] <pmcgowan> dhbiker, do you connect with usb? adb shell ls -l /var/crash
[18:51] <pmcgowan> or ls in the terminal app
[18:52] <pmcgowan> or Elleo ^^
[18:52] <dhbiker> media hub server only
[18:52] <dhbiker> err
[18:54] <bfiller> pmcgowan, dhbiker : look for crash file in /var/crash
[18:54] <dhbiker> no crash file for that
[18:54] <dhbiker> only media hub server
[18:58] <pmcgowan> bfiller, I found one old report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/1489580
[18:58] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1489580 in ubuntu-keyboard (Ubuntu) "keyboard doesn't show up" [Undecided,New]
[18:58] <pmcgowan> but that user didnt report it again
[18:59] <pmcgowan> dhbiker, can you mark that as also affecting you and add your device and build number info to the bug
[18:59] <pmcgowan> bfiller, although Elleo  mentions a know qtmir bug there
[19:01] <dhbiker> done pmcgowan
[19:01] <pmcgowan> thanks
[19:03] <dhbiker> also arale has horrible battery autonomy when playing back music
[19:03] <dhbiker> is this normal ? ... like 8-10 hours of play time and that's it ?
[19:05] <davmor2> ogra_: pmcgowan: rc would basically be what is in stable and not what is being propped for ota7 though right?
[19:05] <ogra_> davmor2, i thought sil2100 had copied the last rc-proposed there already
[19:06] <sil2100> To rc?
[19:06] <pmcgowan> he is on 135 which is latest rc-proposed
[19:06] <sil2100> No, currently we do it once it passes validation in QA
[19:07] <pmcgowan> davmor2, ^^
[19:08] <pmcgowan> so that may mean the qtmir fix was incomplete
[19:08] <pmcgowan> Saviq, in case you know of something in progress ^^
[19:08] <sil2100> rc-proposed is what has the release candidate right now
[19:08] <pmcgowan> we just need to watch for this one
[19:08]  * sil2100 didn't read the backlog so doesn't know what's the discussion about
[19:08] <pmcgowan> osk didnt appear
[19:13] <greyback> Elleo: what known qtmir bug?
[19:14] <pmcgowan> greyback, I couldnt find any open ones
[19:14] <greyback> I'm not aware of anything either.
[19:21] <Elleo> greyback, pmcgowan: that bug was fixed a while back now, iirc qtmir got stuck in a loop attempting to process resize events when the keyboard surface got resized between a fullscreen app and a normal sized app
[19:22] <greyback> Elleo: ok
[19:22] <pmcgowan> I will add a qtmir task to this bug and we can monitor
[19:25] <pmcgowan> dhbiker, there is a bug in progress on that, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1475678
[19:25] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1475678 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Unity8 not informing clients that they are not visible and thus can stop rendering" [High,In progress]
[19:25] <dhbiker> oh ok
[19:26] <dhbiker> i hope you're not mad at me :D
[19:26] <pmcgowan> dhbiker, no we love bug reports :)
[19:48] <oSoMoN> greyback, hey, if you’re around, could you please confirm/invalidate bug #1504293 ?
[19:48] <ubot5`> bug 1504293 in qtubuntu "Screen.pixelDensity is incorrect on all devices" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1504293
[19:48] <atk33> someone know something about the meizu mx4 flashing
[19:48] <atk33> ?
[19:55] <greyback> oSoMoN: you need it soon?
[19:55] <greyback> you're right, it's not being set
[19:56] <oSoMoN> greyback, ideally, soon, but at the very least if you can confirm the bug so that it’s on the radar, that would be a good start :)
[19:57] <oSoMoN> greyback, how hard would it be to reimplement QPlatformScreen::physicalSize(), is the information readily exposed by mir ?
[19:58] <greyback> oSoMoN: yeah it's not a big deal. It's confirmed
[19:58] <oSoMoN> thanks
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> is it a known bug that telegram crashes on startup on bq 4.5?
[20:26] <pmcgowan> lotuspsychje, I would say no, version?
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> pmcgowan: version of telegram?
[20:27] <pmcgowan> lotuspsychje, yes and the os
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> holdon lemme check
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> tail syslog spitted out some errors apparmor
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> pmcgowan: 15.04 r25
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> pmcgowan: telegram1.3.20.114
[20:31] <pmcgowan> thanks, we should probably just enter a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/telegram-app, do you know if you get an app update recently, did it recently break?
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> pmcgowan: after first install it worked like a charm
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> i just updated the 400mb update before
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> now it just freezes on me instead of crashing
[20:33] <pmcgowan> lotuspsychje, do you want to enter a bug or shall I , then get karni to check it, I have not heard of this before
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> pmcgowan: check the telegram reviews in uapp explorer, more users complain about crashes
[20:36] <pmcgowan> lotuspsychje, https://bugs.launchpad.net/telegram-app/+bug/1473053
[20:36] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1473053 in Telegram app "[bq 5] Telegram crashes" [Critical,Fix committed]
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> aha lemme check that
[20:36] <pmcgowan> yeah sounds like thats recent
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> pmcgowan: got a link to that v2 telegram wich i can try on the phone?
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> Downloads
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> v2 does not have any download files.
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> maybe they working hard until new release as click app
[20:54] <popey> lotuspsychje: its not ready yet
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> popey: ok tnx
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> popey: it wasnt crashing on my nexus7 if i can recall
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> !info telegram-app
[20:56] <ubot5`> Package telegram-app does not exist in vivid
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> would be nice to see click app versions in here