| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:12 |
|---|---|---|
| sgclark | good evening | 07:17 |
| soee | goor morning :) | 07:19 |
| lordievader | Hey soee, sgclark | 07:20 |
| lordievader | How are you both doing? | 07:20 |
| sgclark | trying to finsh backports but falling asleep haha | 07:21 |
| lordievader | Perhaps it is a better idea to continue tommorow? | 07:22 |
| lordievader | Falling asleep at the keyboard ain't a good thing. | 07:22 |
| sgclark | that will be the certain outcome yes | 07:22 |
| sgclark | Riddell: yofel: or anyone interested https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/5485548/+listing-archive-extra needs review. It is for trusty to add an upstream patch and I went ahead and made the the last release while I was at it. | 07:34 |
| sgclark | akonadi | 07:34 |
| vip | hi ho | 07:35 |
| sgclark | hiyas | 07:36 |
| soee | someone is using Kmail in 15.10 ? | 09:17 |
| yofel | me | 09:19 |
| zokiDimovski | I am too. | 09:21 |
| soee | yofel, zokiDimovski any problems with it or is it stable enough to be used as primary mail client ? | 09:22 |
| yofel | WFM as my primary client, even the random akonadi hangups seem to be gone in wily. I still have Thunderbird installed as fallback though - just in case | 09:23 |
| zokiDimovski | I just got "akonadi resource" crash. | 09:25 |
| yofel | SIGH | 09:25 |
| zokiDimovski | yofel: do you have problem with icon on kmail after you invoke it from systray? | 09:27 |
| zokiDimovski | soee: well I took the risk and put 15.10 on my production machine. and it's stabel enough. don't have any problem with sending/recieving. | 09:29 |
| soee | zokiDimovski: 15.10 works pretty fine for me to - i have it on 2 machines. Im just curious about Kmail | 09:30 |
| soee | can i timport accounts from thunderbird ? | 09:30 |
| soee | *can it | 09:30 |
| zokiDimovski | soee: the only problem I have now is that "akonadi resource" is crashing. The icon after I open the app from systray. and maybe some other stuff. | 09:30 |
| zokiDimovski | soee: don't know if you can import account. but you can import the messages. | 09:31 |
| zokiDimovski | soee: I've never used thunderbird though, as my primary email client. Kmail was always my choice. | 09:32 |
| yofel | I don't use the systray icon. If I start kmail normally the icon works fine. But I think the message windows have no icon | 09:32 |
| zokiDimovski | yofel: yes, the icon is still there if I use kmail from task manager all is good. but after I put it in systray and the open it, the icon is gone. | 09:34 |
| yofel | Please file a bug then, I have no idea what's responsible for assigning the right icon there | 09:35 |
| zokiDimovski | I will. I'm reading now to get to know my self with the procedure. | 09:38 |
| zokiDimovski | yofel: I've upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10. I would like to test this on new installation, just to see if I have the same problem there. | 09:39 |
| zokiDimovski | soee: you said 15.10 is working fine on you two machines. I'm waiting a lot for the desktop to start. This was not the case on 15.04. Even on ssd, is very very slow. | 09:54 |
| soee | the loading screen afer sddm or when booting | 09:55 |
| soee | ? | 09:55 |
| zokiDimovski | the loading screen after sddm. | 09:55 |
| soee | yes it is longer a lot | 09:55 |
| soee | but thi is due to Plasma 5 changes i think | 09:56 |
| zokiDimovski | this morning the desktop didn't started after the updates. I had to restart sddm and then it started. Don't know why is this happening, but everyday I'm testing this and the last 3 3-4 days, always happens. | 09:58 |
| soee | zokiDimovski: it doesnt start for me only if i use nvidia profile on my optimus tech laptop | 10:07 |
| soee | with intel it works fine | 10:07 |
| soee | ok, kmail configured ... lets see how it works | 10:07 |
| soee | kmail sends notifications to systray when i close client ? | 10:07 |
| yofel | it should by default, you need to check "switch offline on kmail shutdown" in the resource retrieval options if you don't want that | 10:17 |
| soee | yofel: i want, but atm. i have notification message only | 10:23 |
| soee | no systray entry | 10:23 |
| yofel | oh the tray icon, That's Settings>Appearance>System Tray | 10:23 |
| soee | yes just found it :) thank you | 10:26 |
| soee | we need some nicer icon for the systray imo, i'll post request for breeze theme | 10:27 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 10:58 |
| soee | yofel: is there some option to mark message as read when i open it ? | 11:07 |
| yofel | soee: Settings>Misc>Folders>Mark selected message as read after 0sec | 11:51 |
| yofel | then disable the message preview | 11:51 |
| yofel | or not if you use it | 11:51 |
| soee | yofel: yes, thank you. Kmail works great so far | 11:53 |
| soee | 5 accounts configured | 11:53 |
| soee | setting icons size for menubar in Kmail to 256x256 is cool :) | 11:58 |
| clivejo | anyone know why Telegram Desktop doesnt have a Taskbar icon? | 12:23 |
| clivejo | yet it does have a system tray icon :/ | 12:23 |
| soee | there never was taskabr linke i other apps for Telegram | 12:25 |
| clivejo | can I make one? | 12:31 |
| popey | hello.. seems something amiss with kdenlive in wily.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/+bug/1504526 | 12:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1504526 in kdenlive (Ubuntu) "Could not start process Cannot talk to klauncher: "The name org.kde.klauncher5 was not provided by any .service files"" [Undecided,New] | 12:31 |
| dracnoc | Hi. Using kub1510b2 - has anyone else come up against a random freeze in muon discover? Works normally for me installing a new app, but afterwards becomes unresponsive. Clicking X brings up the unresponsive/terminate application window. | 12:32 |
| ovidiu-florin | sitter: what's the difference between apt update and apt-get update? | 12:38 |
| soee | dracnoc: sorry, never used discover :/ | 12:39 |
| soee | i pefere old muon :) | 12:39 |
| sitter | ovidiu-florin: using different frontends | 12:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | sitter: I'm not sure I understand | 12:40 |
| sitter | man apt | 12:40 |
| BluesKaj | discover doesn't cover all packages in my experience, good old muon does | 12:51 |
| sitter | popey: only happens when opening a file dialog? | 12:56 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: That is the difference between a software center and a package manager. | 12:56 |
| popey | sitter: I haven't got much further in to find out, because without clips I can't really do much | 12:57 |
| sitter | true true | 12:58 |
| sitter | popey: please try to install kinit and restart kdenlive | 12:58 |
| sitter | see if that fixes it | 12:58 |
| popey | ok | 12:58 |
| popey | sitter: yes, i now see files in the file dialog | 12:59 |
| popey | sitter: thank you :) | 13:04 |
| sitter | fix uploaded | 13:06 |
| soee | uh new mesa updates | 13:21 |
| soee | someone used this email client https://nylas.com/N1/ ? | 13:28 |
| soee | https://www.calligra.org/news/calligra-2-9-8-released/ | 13:41 |
| Riddell | clivejo: your favourite package has a new version ^^ ! | 13:55 |
| clivejo | Riddell: yippeee | 14:01 |
| Riddell | sgclark: any luck getting testers? | 14:03 |
| howlymowly | hi everyone ... short question: in kubuntu 15.10 newest updates I am trying to add a printer but it just doesn't work? it wont show up in the list of printers I have? | 14:04 |
| soee | howlymowly: it doesnt show on the list when you click to add new printer ? | 14:11 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, testers for ? | 14:15 |
| Riddell | howlymowly: maybe you don't have all the drivers installed | 14:15 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: what what? | 14:15 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: oh sgclark made packages for plasma for vivid and an update to kdepim for trusty | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, ok, no vivid install here, and I don't use pim on trusty | 14:17 |
| yofel | I can try it here later | 14:31 |
| soee | clivejo: i'm ready to test new Calligra if you package it | 14:32 |
| yofel | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 14:36 |
| yofel | kubuntu-desktop kwin kwin-addons kwin-common kwin-x11 | 14:36 |
| yofel | hm... | 14:36 |
| clivejo | thats not good | 14:37 |
| soee | yofel: on Trusty ? | 14:37 |
| yofel | vivid with staging-plasma | 14:37 |
| soee | ah, ok | 14:37 |
| yofel | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12724029/ | 14:39 |
| yofel | looks like frameworks hasn't been published yet | 14:39 |
| * yofel waits | 14:40 | |
| === adrian is now known as alvesadrian | ||
| Riddell | hmm, applications 15.08.2 | 16:32 |
| Riddell | this might be worth it for kdepim fixes | 16:32 |
| sgclark | yeah I cant get pim to build on vivid | 17:47 |
| sgclark | frameworks are still being worked on. I was up too late working on them. | 17:48 |
| sgclark | oh the trusty fix was akonadi not kdepim | 18:10 |
| marco-parillo | Did I just see KDE Frameworks 5.15 fly by on a Wily upgrade? | 18:14 |
| yofel | likely | 18:15 |
| Riddell | fly like a bird on the wind | 18:15 |
| Riddell | testing welcomed | 18:15 |
| marco-parillo | Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a bannana. I pretty much use Wily all the time so if major breakage occurs, I will shout. And I may try to post something on the Wire and on G+ | 18:16 |
| Riddell | marco-parillo: not yet, wait for upstream to announce it first | 18:16 |
| Riddell | which is due tomorrow | 18:17 |
| marco-parillo | OK. I think I made that mistake on Plasma 5.4.2, and Phornix caught me. | 18:17 |
| sgclark | Riddell: someone taking applications? | 18:39 |
| Riddell | sgclark: not yet, feel free to if you want but you already have backports on the go so as ever don't overload yourself | 18:40 |
| sgclark | well, pim will not build on vivid so I hope that it will cure my ail. kf5 is just a matter of hitting the rebuild script. so I will claim applications. | 18:41 |
| Riddell | go for it :) | 18:41 |
| sgclark | cool will do | 18:41 |
| Rick_Timmis | Got some good results with Wily Beta1 today.. | 18:42 |
| Rick_Timmis | All installed 600+ updates, configured and looking good | 18:43 |
| Rick_Timmis | I'll run it as the main daily workstation at the office next week.. | 18:43 |
| Rick_Timmis | Looking very shiny :-) | 18:43 |
| BluesKaj | seems so today Rick_Timmis, had a few probs 2 days ago ..no desktop, but all is well for the time being | 18:45 |
| Rick_Timmis | Hmm, well the daily grind might show up some issues next week, but I hope not it looking gorgeous and I just order a shinny new SSD to install it on | 18:46 |
| yofel | so, 5.15 update went well, except that it killed kinit | 18:47 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, I'll be looking for ssd sales at the end of the month | 18:48 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, so is that why I couldn't get a desktop a couple of days back | 18:49 |
| BluesKaj | ? | 18:50 |
| yofel | probably not, at least nothing like that happened to me | 18:50 |
| yofel | hm, plasma just froze.. | 18:50 |
| BluesKaj | the splash screen wouldn't finish then I had no screen at all | 18:51 |
| yofel | if you still had a mouse, I saw something like that when plasma for some reason didn't remove a lockfile from the previous session | 18:51 |
| yofel | took a while to figure out what was wrong... | 18:51 |
| yofel | plasma needs to learn how to communicate problems better :/ | 18:52 |
| BluesKaj | I managed to get the desktop once a few mesa apps were upgraded so i assumed it was OpenGL or some such that wasn't rendering | 18:53 |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| yofel | that turned out to be a broken NFS mount, lovely how that can freeze half of the system | 19:01 |
| sgclark | valorie: ping | 19:02 |
| sgclark | ouch | 19:02 |
| lordievader | yofel: Yeah, if plasma wants something from a broken NFS mount it will just hang... | 19:06 |
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| yofel | so, gave nvidia another try, without luck. Not sure how those guys on the lp bug were able to login at all. Maybe lightdm isn't as easy to break as sddm | 19:25 |
| yofel | or maybe I couldn't figure out how to login with sddm without seeing anything | 19:32 |
| yofel | switched to lightdm, obviously managed to do an invisible login, and suddenly I have a working nvidia session o.O | 19:33 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, I had to login the VT then enable sddm, but that was after the mesa upgrades and then I was able to login with sddm | 19:35 |
| yofel | nah, intel+mesa works fine here, this is just about nvidia optimus | 19:39 |
| yofel | but I did notice that the login takes a bit longer than normal... at least judging from how long the splash screen stays up | 19:39 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, well, nvidia here so mesa was the problem for me | 19:44 |
| === palasso_ is now known as palasso | ||
| claydoh | yofel, I got nvidia working (optimus) by enabling autologin on sddm, lol. | 20:01 |
| claydoh | some talk of scripting a screen bla ning/unblanking somewhere, but I didn't need that | 20:01 |
| claydoh | this is 15.10 and nvidia-352 | 20:02 |
| yofel | yeah, that would work too - after all I just had to figure out how to login somehow | 20:14 |
| yofel | maybe I'll do the same | 20:14 |
| valorie | sgclark: here for another half-hour or so | 20:19 |
| valorie | what's up? | 20:19 |
| sgclark | valorie: I am going to seagl thingy and just wondering if your around that weekend | 20:26 |
| valorie | which weekend? | 20:27 |
| valorie | I've lost track | 20:27 |
| sgclark | 24th | 20:27 |
| valorie | oh, next weekend? | 20:27 |
| valorie | himm | 20:27 |
| valorie | I mean, hmmm | 20:27 |
| valorie | are you coming up by train? | 20:27 |
| sgclark | yes | 20:27 |
| valorie | 2 weeks, not next week, silly Valorie | 20:27 |
| sgclark | right 2 weeks | 20:27 |
| valorie | Friday night, or Sat. morning? | 20:28 |
| sgclark | sorry just found out about it | 20:28 |
| sgclark | have not got tickets yet, wanted to reach out to you first | 20:28 |
| valorie | no problem, I'm on their mail list, but have been ignorning mail | 20:28 |
| valorie | I can pick you up either time | 20:28 |
| valorie | it's a nice lil conf | 20:29 |
| valorie | Deb Richardson is awesome and fantastic and you should totally meet her | 20:29 |
| sgclark | I guess we are teaming up with washinton loco, I am the only one there for oregon.. | 20:29 |
| valorie | someone is doing a table? | 20:30 |
| valorie | woah | 20:30 |
| valorie | am I out of the loop or what | 20:30 |
| sgclark | yeah both our loco one table I think | 20:30 |
| valorie | that is wonderful and cool | 20:30 |
| valorie | as I recall last year I tried to get a room for us on Sat. night but that didn't materialize | 20:32 |
| valorie | it's an hour drive, but doable | 20:32 |
| valorie | from here, I mean | 20:32 |
| sgclark | I can get funding for a room if that is easier | 20:33 |
| sgclark | Walter is taking care of all the logistics as he cannot come | 20:33 |
| sgclark | will have ubuntu swag, would be nice to have some kubuntu swag but I am beyond broke | 20:34 |
| valorie | if you get funding for a room, I can provide the car and meals | 20:38 |
| sgclark | deal and thanks! | 20:38 |
| valorie | I've got DVDs left from the lfnw | 20:38 |
| valorie | I'll bring those and whatever else I can dig up | 20:38 |
| valorie | if you don't get funding for a room, we'll just drive more | 20:39 |
| valorie | :-) | 20:39 |
| valorie | my car is a hybrid; easy on gas | 20:39 |
| sgclark | :) | 20:39 |
| sgclark | should be able to | 20:39 |
| sgclark | will let you know. Look forward to seeing you! | 20:40 |
| sgclark | applications 15.08.2 running, off to the store bbl | 20:40 |
| sgclark | ahoneybun: did you do something with DVD covers? that would be nice | 20:42 |
| valorie | see y'all on Sunday | 20:42 |
| sgclark | kk have a good weekend | 20:42 |
| valorie | he has some we could print out, I guess? | 20:42 |
| valorie | might be fun | 20:42 |
| sgclark | yeah that would be great I think | 20:42 |
| ahoneybun | I have the cover and back done | 20:52 |
| ahoneybun | need to grab the source files from ovidiu-florin's server I think | 20:52 |
| ahoneybun | sgclark: valorie ^ | 20:53 |
| ahoneybun | sgclark: you could also make the booklet andrea and I are making | 20:54 |
| ahoneybun | something like this maybe: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c5/58/2d/c5582d18b6215f8ee77f35e35e842959.jpg | 20:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: source files of what? | 21:08 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: the dvd | 21:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | do you need the server URL again? | 21:11 |
| ahoneybun | I don't even have the software installed anyway | 21:11 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: do you have a kde identty? | 21:18 |
| ahoneybun | yep | 21:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | you can use share.kde.org | 21:19 |
| ahoneybun | the login button does not work | 21:20 |
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