[07:12] Good morning. [07:17] good evening [07:19] goor morning :) [07:20] Hey soee, sgclark [07:20] How are you both doing? [07:21] trying to finsh backports but falling asleep haha [07:22] Perhaps it is a better idea to continue tommorow? [07:22] Falling asleep at the keyboard ain't a good thing. [07:22] that will be the certain outcome yes [07:34] Riddell: yofel: or anyone interested https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/5485548/+listing-archive-extra needs review. It is for trusty to add an upstream patch and I went ahead and made the the last release while I was at it. [07:34] akonadi [07:35] hi ho [07:36] hiyas [09:17] someone is using Kmail in 15.10 ? [09:19] me [09:21] I am too. [09:22] yofel, zokiDimovski any problems with it or is it stable enough to be used as primary mail client ? [09:23] WFM as my primary client, even the random akonadi hangups seem to be gone in wily. I still have Thunderbird installed as fallback though - just in case [09:25] I just got "akonadi resource" crash. [09:25] SIGH [09:27] yofel: do you have problem with icon on kmail after you invoke it from systray? [09:29] soee: well I took the risk and put 15.10 on my production machine. and it's stabel enough. don't have any problem with sending/recieving. [09:30] zokiDimovski: 15.10 works pretty fine for me to - i have it on 2 machines. Im just curious about Kmail [09:30] can i timport accounts from thunderbird ? [09:30] *can it [09:30] soee: the only problem I have now is that "akonadi resource" is crashing. The icon after I open the app from systray. and maybe some other stuff. [09:31] soee: don't know if you can import account. but you can import the messages. [09:32] soee: I've never used thunderbird though, as my primary email client. Kmail was always my choice. [09:32] I don't use the systray icon. If I start kmail normally the icon works fine. But I think the message windows have no icon [09:34] yofel: yes, the icon is still there if I use kmail from task manager all is good. but after I put it in systray and the open it, the icon is gone. [09:35] Please file a bug then, I have no idea what's responsible for assigning the right icon there [09:38] I will. I'm reading now to get to know my self with the procedure. [09:39] yofel: I've upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10. I would like to test this on new installation, just to see if I have the same problem there. [09:54] soee: you said 15.10 is working fine on you two machines. I'm waiting a lot for the desktop to start. This was not the case on 15.04. Even on ssd, is very very slow. [09:55] the loading screen afer sddm or when booting [09:55] ? [09:55] the loading screen after sddm. [09:55] yes it is longer a lot [09:56] but thi is due to Plasma 5 changes i think [09:58] this morning the desktop didn't started after the updates. I had to restart sddm and then it started. Don't know why is this happening, but everyday I'm testing this and the last 3 3-4 days, always happens. [10:07] zokiDimovski: it doesnt start for me only if i use nvidia profile on my optimus tech laptop [10:07] with intel it works fine [10:07] ok, kmail configured ... lets see how it works [10:07] kmail sends notifications to systray when i close client ? [10:17] it should by default, you need to check "switch offline on kmail shutdown" in the resource retrieval options if you don't want that [10:23] yofel: i want, but atm. i have notification message only [10:23] no systray entry [10:23] oh the tray icon, That's Settings>Appearance>System Tray [10:26] yes just found it :) thank you [10:27] we need some nicer icon for the systray imo, i'll post request for breeze theme [10:58] 'Morning all [11:07] yofel: is there some option to mark message as read when i open it ? [11:51] soee: Settings>Misc>Folders>Mark selected message as read after 0sec [11:51] then disable the message preview [11:51] or not if you use it [11:53] yofel: yes, thank you. Kmail works great so far [11:53] 5 accounts configured [11:58] setting icons size for menubar in Kmail to 256x256 is cool :) [12:23] anyone know why Telegram Desktop doesnt have a Taskbar icon? [12:23] yet it does have a system tray icon :/ [12:25] there never was taskabr linke i other apps for Telegram [12:31] can I make one? [12:31] hello.. seems something amiss with kdenlive in wily.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/+bug/1504526 [12:31] Launchpad bug 1504526 in kdenlive (Ubuntu) "Could not start process Cannot talk to klauncher: "The name org.kde.klauncher5 was not provided by any .service files"" [Undecided,New] [12:32] Hi. Using kub1510b2 - has anyone else come up against a random freeze in muon discover? Works normally for me installing a new app, but afterwards becomes unresponsive. Clicking X brings up the unresponsive/terminate application window. [12:38] sitter: what's the difference between apt update and apt-get update? [12:39] dracnoc: sorry, never used discover :/ [12:39] i pefere old muon :) [12:39] ovidiu-florin: using different frontends [12:40] sitter: I'm not sure I understand [12:40] man apt [12:51] discover doesn't cover all packages in my experience, good old muon does [12:56] popey: only happens when opening a file dialog? [12:56] BluesKaj: That is the difference between a software center and a package manager. [12:57] sitter: I haven't got much further in to find out, because without clips I can't really do much [12:58] true true [12:58] popey: please try to install kinit and restart kdenlive [12:58] see if that fixes it [12:58] ok [12:59] sitter: yes, i now see files in the file dialog [13:04] sitter: thank you :) [13:06] fix uploaded [13:21] uh new mesa updates [13:28] someone used this email client https://nylas.com/N1/ ? [13:41] https://www.calligra.org/news/calligra-2-9-8-released/ [13:55] clivejo: your favourite package has a new version ^^ ! [14:01] Riddell: yippeee [14:03] sgclark: any luck getting testers? [14:04] hi everyone ... short question: in kubuntu 15.10 newest updates I am trying to add a printer but it just doesn't work? it wont show up in the list of printers I have? [14:11] howlymowly: it doesnt show on the list when you click to add new printer ? [14:15] Riddell, testers for ? [14:15] howlymowly: maybe you don't have all the drivers installed [14:15] BluesKaj: what what? [14:16] BluesKaj: oh sgclark made packages for plasma for vivid and an update to kdepim for trusty [14:17] Riddell, ok, no vivid install here, and I don't use pim on trusty [14:31] I can try it here later [14:32] clivejo: i'm ready to test new Calligra if you package it [14:36] The following packages will be REMOVED: [14:36] kubuntu-desktop kwin kwin-addons kwin-common kwin-x11 [14:36] hm... [14:37] thats not good [14:37] yofel: on Trusty ? [14:37] vivid with staging-plasma [14:37] ah, ok [14:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12724029/ [14:39] looks like frameworks hasn't been published yet [14:40] * yofel waits === adrian is now known as alvesadrian [16:32] hmm, applications 15.08.2 [16:32] this might be worth it for kdepim fixes [17:47] yeah I cant get pim to build on vivid [17:48] frameworks are still being worked on. I was up too late working on them. [18:10] oh the trusty fix was akonadi not kdepim [18:14] Did I just see KDE Frameworks 5.15 fly by on a Wily upgrade? [18:15] likely [18:15] fly like a bird on the wind [18:15] testing welcomed [18:16] Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a bannana. I pretty much use Wily all the time so if major breakage occurs, I will shout. And I may try to post something on the Wire and on G+ [18:16] marco-parillo: not yet, wait for upstream to announce it first [18:17] which is due tomorrow [18:17] OK. I think I made that mistake on Plasma 5.4.2, and Phornix caught me. [18:39] Riddell: someone taking applications? [18:40] sgclark: not yet, feel free to if you want but you already have backports on the go so as ever don't overload yourself [18:41] well, pim will not build on vivid so I hope that it will cure my ail. kf5 is just a matter of hitting the rebuild script. so I will claim applications. [18:41] go for it :) [18:41] cool will do [18:42] Got some good results with Wily Beta1 today.. [18:43] All installed 600+ updates, configured and looking good [18:43] I'll run it as the main daily workstation at the office next week.. [18:43] Looking very shiny :-) [18:45] seems so today Rick_Timmis, had a few probs 2 days ago ..no desktop, but all is well for the time being [18:46] Hmm, well the daily grind might show up some issues next week, but I hope not it looking gorgeous and I just order a shinny new SSD to install it on [18:47] so, 5.15 update went well, except that it killed kinit [18:48] yeah, I'll be looking for ssd sales at the end of the month [18:49] yofel, so is that why I couldn't get a desktop a couple of days back [18:50] ? [18:50] probably not, at least nothing like that happened to me [18:50] hm, plasma just froze.. [18:51] the splash screen wouldn't finish then I had no screen at all [18:51] if you still had a mouse, I saw something like that when plasma for some reason didn't remove a lockfile from the previous session [18:51] took a while to figure out what was wrong... [18:52] plasma needs to learn how to communicate problems better :/ [18:53] I managed to get the desktop once a few mesa apps were upgraded so i assumed it was OpenGL or some such that wasn't rendering === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [19:01] that turned out to be a broken NFS mount, lovely how that can freeze half of the system [19:02] valorie: ping [19:02] ouch [19:06] yofel: Yeah, if plasma wants something from a broken NFS mount it will just hang... === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [19:25] so, gave nvidia another try, without luck. Not sure how those guys on the lp bug were able to login at all. Maybe lightdm isn't as easy to break as sddm [19:32] or maybe I couldn't figure out how to login with sddm without seeing anything [19:33] switched to lightdm, obviously managed to do an invisible login, and suddenly I have a working nvidia session o.O [19:35] yofel, I had to login the VT then enable sddm, but that was after the mesa upgrades and then I was able to login with sddm [19:39] nah, intel+mesa works fine here, this is just about nvidia optimus [19:39] but I did notice that the login takes a bit longer than normal... at least judging from how long the splash screen stays up [19:44] yofel, well, nvidia here so mesa was the problem for me === palasso_ is now known as palasso [20:01] yofel, I got nvidia working (optimus) by enabling autologin on sddm, lol. [20:01] some talk of scripting a screen bla ning/unblanking somewhere, but I didn't need that [20:02] this is 15.10 and nvidia-352 [20:14] yeah, that would work too - after all I just had to figure out how to login somehow [20:14] maybe I'll do the same [20:19] sgclark: here for another half-hour or so [20:19] what's up? [20:26] valorie: I am going to seagl thingy and just wondering if your around that weekend [20:27] which weekend? [20:27] I've lost track [20:27] 24th [20:27] oh, next weekend? [20:27] himm [20:27] I mean, hmmm [20:27] are you coming up by train? [20:27] yes [20:27] 2 weeks, not next week, silly Valorie [20:27] right 2 weeks [20:28] Friday night, or Sat. morning? [20:28] sorry just found out about it [20:28] have not got tickets yet, wanted to reach out to you first [20:28] no problem, I'm on their mail list, but have been ignorning mail [20:28] I can pick you up either time [20:29] it's a nice lil conf [20:29] Deb Richardson is awesome and fantastic and you should totally meet her [20:29] I guess we are teaming up with washinton loco, I am the only one there for oregon.. [20:30] someone is doing a table? [20:30] woah [20:30] am I out of the loop or what [20:30] yeah both our loco one table I think [20:30] that is wonderful and cool [20:32] as I recall last year I tried to get a room for us on Sat. night but that didn't materialize [20:32] it's an hour drive, but doable [20:32] from here, I mean [20:33] I can get funding for a room if that is easier [20:33] Walter is taking care of all the logistics as he cannot come [20:34] will have ubuntu swag, would be nice to have some kubuntu swag but I am beyond broke [20:38] if you get funding for a room, I can provide the car and meals [20:38] deal and thanks! [20:38] I've got DVDs left from the lfnw [20:38] I'll bring those and whatever else I can dig up [20:39] if you don't get funding for a room, we'll just drive more [20:39] :-) [20:39] my car is a hybrid; easy on gas [20:39] :) [20:39] should be able to [20:40] will let you know. Look forward to seeing you! [20:40] applications 15.08.2 running, off to the store bbl [20:42] ahoneybun: did you do something with DVD covers? that would be nice [20:42] see y'all on Sunday [20:42] kk have a good weekend [20:42] he has some we could print out, I guess? [20:42] might be fun [20:42] yeah that would be great I think [20:52] I have the cover and back done [20:52] need to grab the source files from ovidiu-florin's server I think [20:53] sgclark: valorie ^ [20:54] sgclark: you could also make the booklet andrea and I are making [20:57] something like this maybe: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c5/58/2d/c5582d18b6215f8ee77f35e35e842959.jpg [21:08] ahoneybun: source files of what? [21:08] ovidiu-florin: the dvd [21:11] do you need the server URL again? [21:11] I don't even have the software installed anyway [21:18] ahoneybun: do you have a kde identty? [21:19] yep [21:19] you can use share.kde.org [21:20] the login button does not work