| === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam | ||
| === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away | ||
| davidcalle | Good morning | 07:24 |
|---|---|---|
| dholbach | good morning | 07:28 |
| rpadovani | dholbach, dpm sturmflut2 svij so see you guys in a couple of weeks in berlin \o/ | 09:47 |
| svij | rpadovani: \o/ | 09:47 |
| === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN | ||
| svij | rpadovani: if you want listen to a talk in english (which is now german) I could ask the speaker if he would do it in english | 10:07 |
| dpm | rpadovani, awesome! | 10:09 |
| dpm | rpadovani, my talk will be in English | 10:09 |
| rpadovani | dpm, thanks :-) svij well, mivoligo and I don't know german, so more talks there are in english, better is for us, but don't bohter to much, I appreciate the main target of the ubucon are germans :-) | 10:24 |
| svij | rpadovani: sure :) | 10:31 |
| dholbach | rpadovani, nice! | 10:35 |
| nik90 | popey: ping | 10:47 |
| sturmflut2 | rpadovani: Jep, means I will prepare my talk in english too :) | 10:58 |
| svij | I guess we could do that too, dholbach | 11:00 |
| dholbach | sure | 11:00 |
| popey | nik90: pong! | 11:02 |
| nik90 | popey: Hey | 11:02 |
| nik90 | popey: I had a discussion with bartosz about clock app release. And bartosz had a good reason to push out a new update v3.6 sometime next week. | 11:02 |
| nik90 | bartosz landed a good number of critical bug fixes related to timezone changes, and with the upcoming winter time change, it will be nice to push clock app update to test that publicly :) | 11:03 |
| nik90 | popey: There is still one MP currently being reviewed. I will help review and test that to get it merged by sunday. Once that happens, clock app v3.6 can be sent to QA. | 11:04 |
| nik90 | as always I have also updated the changelog at http://pad.ubuntu.com/clock-app-changelog | 11:04 |
| popey | excellent! | 11:05 |
| popey | thanks nik90 | 11:05 |
| === _salem is now known as salem_ | ||
| === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle | ||
| Agathezol | anyone know why gcc on ubuntu 15.04 is significantly more picky about object and library order than gcc on other platforms? i.e. gcc -g ../someobj.o -lsctp myobj.o -o mybin - will fail, but revers -lsctp and ../someobj.o will succeed. i normally develop on gentoo platforms so I'm assuming compile time flags for gcc or some ubuntu config I don't know about. | 15:37 |
| mcphail | Agathezol: I've never noticed Ubuntu being particularly picky. You always need to get the order right | 15:43 |
| Agathezol | mcphail it is certainly more picky than my gentoo box with the same glibc. make files that work fine there fail on ubuntu and it's a library lniking order issue | 15:48 |
| Agathezol | mcphail but i think after some more comparison that it might be related to multilib support. my other platform (gentoo) doesn't have multilib enabled in gcc, which probably affects link-order resolution | 15:48 |
| Agathezol | not a huge issue ultimately, just one that's been nagging at me a bit | 15:49 |
| mcphail | Agathezol: really? That shouldn't be the case | 15:49 |
| mcphail | Agathezol: anyway, that's why God invernted the autotools | 15:49 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: heh, i guess, my code has almost no external dependencies, so i very rarely use them. noticed it primarilly with librt and libsctp | 15:50 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: but i was mostly curious why one was more picky than the other | 15:51 |
| mcphail | Agathezol: I suspect it must be something unique to your Gentoo install. Google is full of link-order errors from all the popular distros | 15:53 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: potentially, they are very old installs that have been updated for years | 15:56 |
| Agathezol | so, newer gcc (4.8.x instead of 4.9.x like ubuntu) but potientially some old useflag or something affecting the compile | 15:57 |
| mcphail | Agathezol: useful, though :) | 15:57 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: sure, though i'd rather have my makefile be portable to my laptop running ubuntu so i don't have to ssh to the dev server everytime i want to wrok on the code :P | 15:58 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: anyway, thanks for thinking | 15:58 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: TJ- over on #ubuntu remembered the change that is giving me grief. --as-needed is used by the lniker by default now | 16:01 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: so if my .o that is using libsctp.so for instance occurs after the -lsctp flag it will fail to compile | 16:02 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: because the linker will ignore -lsctp since nothing is using it yet in the link order | 16:02 |
| mcphail | Agathezol: ha! Compiler flags suck. | 16:05 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: ya, now to see if i can disable that flag with a cflag or something | 16:05 |
| mcphail | Agathezol: honestly, just use autotools and let them take the strain. | 16:06 |
| mcphail | Agathezol: (or whatever build system of your choice) | 16:06 |
| mcphail | Hand-rolling makefiles is an exercise in madness, if you want portability | 16:08 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: it would be, but the code is proprietary. this is the first time it's left a gentoo machine, and that's only for my convenience | 16:08 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: turns out though i can just add --no-as-needed to my CFLAGS, apparently | 16:08 |
| mcphail | nice | 16:09 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: heh, or not, gcc doesn't recognize the option | 16:10 |
| mcphail | aargh | 16:10 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: wow, maybe ubuntu added a patch to remove it. the option is in the ld man page | 16:12 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: oh well, i know the error now, i can deal with it now that i understand it | 16:12 |
| mcphail | Agathezol: can you add it to LDFLAGS? (scraping the back of my gcc knowledge here...) | 16:13 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: ya, that was my first thought, but the ld flags just pass on the gcc cli so it's not liking that either | 16:14 |
| mcphail | Agathezol: actually, try "-Wl,--no-as-needed" | 16:14 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: woh, what did that do? | 16:15 |
| mcphail | Agathezol: passes options to linker | 16:15 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: wild, guess i've never used a linker option before | 16:15 |
| Agathezol | mcphail: that worked fine, thans much! | 16:15 |
| mcphail | Ha! np | 16:15 |
| mcphail | Can someone remind me what package to install to trial the unity8 desktop on desktop? Is it ubuntu-desktop-next or ubuntu-desktop-mir? Is this a good environment for developing mir apps? | 20:19 |
| mcphail | (On wily) | 20:19 |
| tathhu | (is there an ppa for unity8 on trusty?) | 20:25 |
| gerlowskija | I'm working through the scopes-development-in-golang tutorial (https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/tutorials/developing-scopes-go/). I'm trying to experiment with different category layouts, but I can't find any documentation on the JSON format for RegisterCategory. Does anyone now where I should be looking for this? | 21:37 |
| gerlowskija | In tweaking the category-layout value, I've found that horizontal-list and grid seem to work, but I've just been taking guesses to find those two options. | 21:41 |
| === Guest87130 is now known as balloons | ||
| === salem_ is now known as _salem | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!