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mariogripYEEEY!!! \o/, I can now say cellular works on the Oneplus one https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B74IZ6Q2msPDMldRdVFjNDVUSm8/view?usp=sharing00:31
mariogripahoneybun: ^00:31
ahoneybun@@@@@@@@@@@ mariogrip00:34
ahoneybunnice00:34
mariogrip:D00:38
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dholbachgood morning07:28
JonathanFergusonCan I get some direction for my question on Launchpad regarding the error "FAILED (remote: (InvalidSize))" invoked by fastboot. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+question/27203107:43
popeyJonathanFerguson: nexus 7 2012?07:52
JonathanFergusonpopey: Yes07:52
popeyYou know we don't support that device anymore?07:52
JonathanFergusonYes, I do.07:53
popeyok07:53
popeySo even if you did flash it, it won't work.07:53
mcphailOn that subject, are we due some Ubuntu tablet news? Should I try to get hold of a 2013 Nexus 7 or are there consumer devices on the way?08:25
popeynot this year08:25
mcphailOK, cheers08:26
nhainesBut the 2013 Nexus 7 works fine.08:26
popeyit does08:26
nhainesIt's almost pleasant.08:26
popeyIt's one of the two devices which support video out08:26
mcphailQuite hard to find a decent one, though08:26
mcphailLots of 2012's around08:27
nhainesI got a new one cheap via Groupon.08:27
mcphailI'll keep an eye out08:27
nhainesThe touch screen on a 2013 Nexus 7, unlike the N5, is terrible though.08:28
popeyit is?08:28
nhainesYes.  You sort of get used to it, though.08:28
popeynever noticed08:28
nhainesMine's not particularly accurate.08:29
mcphailI think that's common amongst tablets. Hardware tends to be less impressive08:32
popeyThe 2012 Nexus 7 was a bit terrible08:33
popeyBut I still use mine daily as a second screen for irc notifications08:33
mcphailpopey: how much kit do you carry around with you??? :)08:35
popeymcphail: I don't move :)08:39
* mcphail pictures popey in a davros-like chair08:39
popeyhttp://imgur.com/E2Gzh0O08:41
popeythere you go08:41
popeymy desk08:41
mcphailpopey: do you have a picture of Jono on your desk??? Is there something we should know?08:42
popeyInspiration :)08:43
mcphailha!08:43
ogra_you really need a http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files/2/7/4/dunechair.jpg08:43
didrocksI bet it's not as cleaned as it was on the photo today :)08:45
popeyCorrect!08:46
Sleep_Walkerpopey: that is not recent photo, take new one :b08:52
Sleep_WalkerI want to see new dust and new mess :b08:52
popeynope :)08:53
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy Curious Events Day! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ08:54
mcphailHmm. I can't transfer any files with "?" in the name over MTP on 14.04. Is this a known bug? Does it still affect 15.04?09:25
mcphail(and is the bug within the desktop or phone mtp code...?)09:26
Wolfy17Hello09:27
tathhumcphail, afau you need newer *something* which is available on sdk-ppa... or some other ppa related to touch09:27
* tathhu goes back to bed09:27
mcphailtathhu: the sdk-ppa is installed09:28
Wolfy17Is it possible to install ubuntu touch on S4 Mini? GT-I919509:28
mcphailWolfy17: not easily, no09:29
mcphailWolfy17: It is listed under the "abandoned ports" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices09:30
Wolfy17Oh no... Even abandoned? -_- ok, thank you so much09:30
mcphailWolfy17: if you are technically adept, you could try to port it yourself. But Samsung devices are rarely friendly for porting09:32
Wolfy17I rhink that Samsung will alaways give lots of problems09:32
Wolfy17I know :(09:32
Wolfy17So I'll keep cyanogenmod09:33
Wolfy17Or buy an Ubuntu Phone when possible09:33
mcphailWolfy17: yes, I think the commercial route is the best09:34
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faenilmorning people10:18
faenilmy BQ was stuck this morning, UI frozen but power button working10:18
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tathhubeen there10:51
tathhulol10:51
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* Mirv is on fire, fixes camera with Qt 5.511:35
sturmflut2abeato: do I remember correctly that you know everything about ofono and network-manager?11:41
davmor2sturmflut2: no nobody everything about ofono and network-manager ;)11:44
davmor2+knows11:44
davmor2sturmflut2: he does know more than most though :)11:45
sturmflut2davmor2: fair point12:01
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sturmflut2There was an e-mail to the ubuntu-phone mailing list from a guy trying to attach an USB-to-Ethernet controller to control their hardware with an Ubuntu phone, and I would have expected that network-manager gets confused, but seems it also shuts down the modem completely so you not only lose the mobile data connection, but also can't make calls any longer12:03
sturmflut2cyphermox: ^^12:07
abeatosturmflut2, certainly not all, but I know more about ofono than about NM ;)12:08
abeatosturmflut2, for NM certainly cyphermox or awe can help more12:10
sturmflut2I'm assuming it is a NM problem, but I don't know enough about this stuff.12:10
abeatosturmflut2, losing the mobile data might happen, but not being able to call anymore is weird12:12
sturmflut2abeato: I thought so too, yes.12:13
faenilhow can I get notes out of the Notes application?12:34
popeywhich notes application :)12:34
faenilpopey: "Notes"12:43
faenilthe one with fancy text editing fucntionality12:44
popeyfaenil: hmm, are you storing the text in evernote or just locally?12:47
faenillocally, and I'd like to avoid setting up evernote, popey :)12:48
popeywe should probably have an export option to get notes out12:48
popeywe don't have an export12:48
faenilyeah...at least send via email :D12:48
faenilat the very least :D12:48
kophyhello there13:10
kophyi would like to know if i can install ubuntu touch on my samsung galaxy S313:10
kophyplease i need help13:12
faenilkophy: it depends if someone has ported ubuntu touch to S3 already :)13:15
faenilkophy: in this case, it seems someone did the job already:) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/i930013:15
faenilbut please check the website to know what's workign and what's not13:16
faenilpopey: sed -e 's/<[^>]*>//g' on enml files :)13:45
faenilif anyone needs to recover text from the notes taken with the ubuntu phone Notes app ("Reminders") ^13:46
popeynice one!13:47
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oSoMoNgreyback_, who would be the best person to review https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/qtubuntu/ubuntuscreen-physicalsize/+merge/273965 ?14:04
greyback_oSoMoN: me14:04
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oSoMoNgreyback_, excellent! itโ€™s a nice and easy one, perfect for a Friday afternoon :)14:06
greyback_oSoMoN: yeah that should do the trick short-term14:07
oSoMoNgreyback_, what do you mean, will it require a different implementation longer-term ?14:08
greyback_oSoMoN: more qtubuntu's handling of screens in general needs expanding - it assumes a single screen at the moment14:10
greyback_and a single resolution14:10
greyback_nothing for you to worry about currently14:11
oSoMoNgreyback_, ok, thanks for explaining14:16
jnxdSo, anyone considered making a swype-like keyboard for ubuntu touch?15:12
ogra_there was a thread on the mailing list15:14
jnxdogra_: seems like it didn't go anywhere though :(15:22
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mariogripanyone have an idea what this "modem subsystem failure reason" means?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12723995/16:06
mariogripmodem subsystem failure reason: FW@wfw_rxagc.c:3284 Assertion (rxlmAllocPtr->wb_used[chainCfg.wb_idx] == 0) fai.16:06
lotuspsychjemariogrip: played with firmware of any kind?16:08
lotuspsychjemariogrip: this thread links up to a github bug maybe of any use? https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/issues/1916:10
mariogriplotuspsychje: Thanks, i16:13
Guest42341mariogrip, Softpedia: OnePlus One just got cellular support running for Ubuntu Touch. you did it!16:14
mariogripGuest42341: Awesome :D :D16:15
ogra_if softpedia says so it must be true16:15
lotuspsychjemariogrip: this guy got same error too: https://www.prolixium.com/blog?id=101316:15
lotuspsychjeogra_: lol16:15
mariogripxP16:15
Guest42341mariogrip, link http://news.softpedia.com/news/oneplus-one-with-ubuntu-touch-just-got-cellular-support-494224.shtml16:16
mariogriplotuspsychje: that has a different failure reason16:17
lotuspsychjeok16:17
ogra_mariogrip, your grid unit px value is wrong :)16:18
mariogripYeah, i know. xP16:19
mariogripbtw, ogra_ any ideas: modem subsystem failure reason: FW@wfw_rxagc.c:3284 Assertion (rxlmAllocPtr->wb_used[chainCfg.wb_idx] == 0) fai. (this happens at random times at boot, sometimes it gets time to network, sometimes it crashes before i even enter sim pin)16:21
mariogripconnect to network*16:21
ogra_nope ... probably awe or abeato could help16:21
mariogripawe_  abeato : any ideas: modem subsystem failure reason: FW@wfw_rxagc.c:3284 Assertion (rxlmAllocPtr->wb_used[chainCfg.wb_idx] == 0) fai. (this happens at random times at boot, sometimes it gets time to network, sometimes it crashes before i even enter sim pin)16:22
mariogripconnect to network*16:22
awe_mariogrip, have your tried a SIM w/no PIN16:25
mariogripyes16:25
awe_I'd start there for simplicity sake16:25
awe_same thing?16:25
mariogripyes16:25
awe_where is the error message you pasted above reported?16:25
awe_syslog?16:25
awe_radio log?16:25
mariogripsyslog (kernel)16:26
mariogriphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12723995/16:26
awe_mariogrip, without looking at the corresponding kernel code, there's not much I can offer.  It's an assertion that failed, so some condition that should never happen in theory....happened16:30
awe_bad timing of system startup16:31
awe_is it usable after it restarts16:31
awe_or does it keep doing this in a loop?16:31
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mariogripno, just once. but if i restart ofono and rild it does it again16:33
jnxdpopey: was just seeing that music app video, and wondered, can we have "now playing" as a bottom edge feature?16:34
mariogripawe_: I use the CM kernel: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_kernel_oneplus_msm8974 (cm-11.016:35
ahayzenjnxd, that was the original plan to have it as bottom edge on the phone.. but it got complicated and we got sidetracked on convergence, we will probably reinvestigate again :-)16:35
mariogripwith some modification to support aosp (video drivers)16:36
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popeywell, it kinda is bottom edge16:36
popeyif you tap the bar at the bottom16:36
jnxdahayzen: how about at least some more controls like next and back. it could work by swipe, or replace the name labels.16:38
ahayzenjnxd, interesting ideas :-)16:39
ahayzenjnxd, hopefully we'll have a session @ UOS where we can discuss things :-)16:40
jnxdpopey: that's far from even almost there. you promised swipes, not taps :P16:40
popeya swipe is but a long tap16:40
jnxdahayzen: and hopefully by then I know enough of how to do these things to at least give you guys a mock-up16:41
ahayzenjnxd, there is a branch somewhere where you swipe the bottom 'toolbar' upwards to view the now playing16:41
jnxdpopey: one that moves and is far more fluid.16:42
ahayzenjnxd, https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/remix-bottom-edge-001 might be it...but that is a *really* old music-app version we need to reinvestigate and update the branch16:42
jnxdhmm16:42
ahayzeni wouldn't even attempt to do a pull as it is on the old /remix branch not the new /refactor one :-)16:43
ahayzenjnxd, after this round of changes i'll try and put it on my list of things to look at again :-)16:43
jnxdahayzen: thanks (y). BTW, I'm not on rc-proposed, and was wondering whats the status on being able to stop music when the phone is locked?16:44
ahayzenjnxd, thats all WIP at the moment :-)16:45
ahayzenjnxd, so we are working on the support to have the controls in the indicator-sound, assuming thats what you mean ?16:46
jnxdahayzen: how about getting the cues from the button on the earphone?16:47
awe_mariogrip, I honestly can't spare the cycles today as I have some BT work I have to finish up before the long weekend16:47
ahayzenjnxd, yup that will then be able to work as the backend will then be able to control the music-app without it running16:47
jnxdahayzen: well, not quite my idea, but yeah, that'll be pretty good too.16:47
ahayzenjnxd, as in with it in the background16:48
awe_mariogrip, I would suggest trying to determine why the assert is there, and what condition it's guarding.16:48
jnxdahayzen: but I can't control the music app with the button even when it is running16:48
jnxdon the foreground, rather16:49
ahayzenjnxd, yup :-) but when we land this with the new platform support, it should hopefully all start working or at least give the platform the ability to add the support :-)16:49
mariogripawe_: okey, thanks16:49
awe_mariogrip, my bet is that is somehow configuration or fw related.  You're trying to power on the radio, and the kernel driver blows an assert16:49
jnxdahayzen: is this regularly updated: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1L3eGhOe-0eEmKtUurthpUEaweFradSFb3t6W-KiIZMU/edit#slide=id.g3e005603e_410 ?17:00
ahayzenjnxd, not really, usually we get a new one when there are new designs17:01
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jnxdahayzen: it refers to weeks 40 and 41. Are they of this year or the last?17:02
ahayzenyup IIRC that was last year, blimey thats gone quick17:02
jnxdahayzen: I don't see many changes though17:03
ahayzenjnxd, its mostly been backend stuff17:03
jnxdahayzen: okie17:03
ahayzenjnxd, we had a design refresh then we refactored all our code as it had become a mess :-)17:04
jnxdahayzen: so how different would ota-7 be?17:05
ahayzenjnxd, hah not really any different we may land the new listitem support shortly after...but meanwhile we are working on convergence and the support for being able to control the app via headphone controls/indicator/etc17:06
ahayzenthey are quite big items as you can probably imagine17:06
jnxdahayzen: yup. are you guys trying for music specifically, or will there be framework for any other app to implement it if needed?17:08
ahayzenjnxd, hopefully any app will be able to use it :-)17:09
jnxdahayzen: yet more random thoughts from me, but why don't you let the controls show up on the welcome circle?17:11
tathhu^that17:11
ahayzenjnxd, that would be something design would need to agree and that platform would need to implement, but again won't be possible until this new backend is finished :-)17:11
jnxdahayzen: indeed. But IMO it'd be far cooler than the current set-up where we're just stalking our own past selves :D17:15
ahayzenjnxd, yup agreed, i have discussed it before, but we need to backend support first obviously :-) we'll get there eventually17:16
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jnxdin the bug list, there's a column for high, med, low, and another for incomplete, triaged etc. what do the signs on that rom mean?18:39
tathhufaenil, just linux things :P18:42
tathhuCONNECT 31.3.153.5:2001418:42
tathhuay lmao18:42
tathhu":D"18:42
faenilwhat? :D18:43
faeniljnxd: sorry I don't get your question :/18:44
mariogripawe_ & ogra_ : I fixed it kinda, My test sim card was broken.... i tried with a different sim card and it worked just fine....18:44
jnxdfaenil: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app take a look at this18:44
awe_was the card physically broken?18:44
awe_or bad data?18:44
awe_if the latter, it shouldn't cause crashes18:45
faeniljnxd: if you click on a bug it will tell you more18:45
faeniljnxd: it will tell what those values mean18:45
jnxdI meant column, not rom.18:45
tathhu 16:45      faenil| popey: sed -e 's/<[^>]*>//g' on enml files :)18:45
tathhu:P18:45
mariogripI guess physically broken, should not be bad data.18:45
faeniltathhu: ah :D18:45
mariogripawe_: Tested it in android, does the same ting... well it was only a sim card i use for testing/developing anyway.18:47
ahayzenjnxd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance for the difference importances18:48
jnxdahayzen: faenil: thanks. got the idea18:49
ahayzenjnxd, and for the statuses https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Bug%20statuses18:49
ahayzen:-)18:49
faeniljnxd: cheers18:51
awe_mariogrip, wow.... if it does the same in android; sounds like a fragile BSP19:01
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