[00:31] <mariogrip> YEEEY!!! \o/, I can now say cellular works on the Oneplus one https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B74IZ6Q2msPDMldRdVFjNDVUSm8/view?usp=sharing
[00:31] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: ^
[00:34] <ahoneybun> @@@@@@@@@@@ mariogrip
[00:34] <ahoneybun> nice
[00:38] <mariogrip> :D
[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[07:43] <JonathanFerguson> Can I get some direction for my question on Launchpad regarding the error "FAILED (remote: (InvalidSize))" invoked by fastboot. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+question/272031
[07:52] <popey> JonathanFerguson: nexus 7 2012?
[07:52] <JonathanFerguson> popey: Yes
[07:52] <popey> You know we don't support that device anymore?
[07:53] <JonathanFerguson> Yes, I do.
[07:53] <popey> ok
[07:53] <popey> So even if you did flash it, it won't work.
[08:25] <mcphail> On that subject, are we due some Ubuntu tablet news? Should I try to get hold of a 2013 Nexus 7 or are there consumer devices on the way?
[08:25] <popey> not this year
[08:26] <mcphail> OK, cheers
[08:26] <nhaines> But the 2013 Nexus 7 works fine.
[08:26] <popey> it does
[08:26] <nhaines> It's almost pleasant.
[08:26] <popey> It's one of the two devices which support video out
[08:26] <mcphail> Quite hard to find a decent one, though
[08:27] <mcphail> Lots of 2012's around
[08:27] <nhaines> I got a new one cheap via Groupon.
[08:27] <mcphail> I'll keep an eye out
[08:28] <nhaines> The touch screen on a 2013 Nexus 7, unlike the N5, is terrible though.
[08:28] <popey> it is?
[08:28] <nhaines> Yes.  You sort of get used to it, though.
[08:28] <popey> never noticed
[08:29] <nhaines> Mine's not particularly accurate.
[08:32] <mcphail> I think that's common amongst tablets. Hardware tends to be less impressive
[08:33] <popey> The 2012 Nexus 7 was a bit terrible
[08:33] <popey> But I still use mine daily as a second screen for irc notifications
[08:35] <mcphail> popey: how much kit do you carry around with you??? :)
[08:39] <popey> mcphail: I don't move :)
[08:39]  * mcphail pictures popey in a davros-like chair
[08:41] <popey> http://imgur.com/E2Gzh0O
[08:41] <popey> there you go
[08:41] <popey> my desk
[08:42] <mcphail> popey: do you have a picture of Jono on your desk??? Is there something we should know?
[08:43] <popey> Inspiration :)
[08:43] <mcphail> ha!
[08:43] <ogra_> you really need a http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files/2/7/4/dunechair.jpg
[08:45] <didrocks> I bet it's not as cleaned as it was on the photo today :)
[08:46] <popey> Correct!
[08:52] <Sleep_Walker> popey: that is not recent photo, take new one :b
[08:52] <Sleep_Walker> I want to see new dust and new mess :b
[08:53] <popey> nope :)
[08:54] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Curious Events Day! 😃
[09:25] <mcphail> Hmm. I can't transfer any files with "?" in the name over MTP on 14.04. Is this a known bug? Does it still affect 15.04?
[09:26] <mcphail> (and is the bug within the desktop or phone mtp code...?)
[09:27] <Wolfy17> Hello
[09:27] <tathhu> mcphail, afau you need newer *something* which is available on sdk-ppa... or some other ppa related to touch
[09:27]  * tathhu goes back to bed
[09:28] <mcphail> tathhu: the sdk-ppa is installed
[09:28] <Wolfy17> Is it possible to install ubuntu touch on S4 Mini? GT-I9195
[09:29] <mcphail> Wolfy17: not easily, no
[09:30] <mcphail> Wolfy17: It is listed under the "abandoned ports" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[09:30] <Wolfy17> Oh no... Even abandoned? -_- ok, thank you so much
[09:32] <mcphail> Wolfy17: if you are technically adept, you could try to port it yourself. But Samsung devices are rarely friendly for porting
[09:32] <Wolfy17> I rhink that Samsung will alaways give lots of problems
[09:32] <Wolfy17> I know :(
[09:33] <Wolfy17> So I'll keep cyanogenmod
[09:33] <Wolfy17> Or buy an Ubuntu Phone when possible
[09:34] <mcphail> Wolfy17: yes, I think the commercial route is the best
[10:18] <faenil> morning people
[10:18] <faenil> my BQ was stuck this morning, UI frozen but power button working
[10:51] <tathhu> been there
[10:51] <tathhu> lol
[11:35]  * Mirv is on fire, fixes camera with Qt 5.5
[11:41] <sturmflut2> abeato: do I remember correctly that you know everything about ofono and network-manager?
[11:44] <davmor2> sturmflut2: no nobody everything about ofono and network-manager ;)
[11:44] <davmor2> +knows
[11:45] <davmor2> sturmflut2: he does know more than most though :)
[12:01] <sturmflut2> davmor2: fair point
[12:03] <sturmflut2> There was an e-mail to the ubuntu-phone mailing list from a guy trying to attach an USB-to-Ethernet controller to control their hardware with an Ubuntu phone, and I would have expected that network-manager gets confused, but seems it also shuts down the modem completely so you not only lose the mobile data connection, but also can't make calls any longer
[12:07] <sturmflut2> cyphermox: ^^
[12:08] <abeato> sturmflut2, certainly not all, but I know more about ofono than about NM ;)
[12:10] <abeato> sturmflut2, for NM certainly cyphermox or awe can help more
[12:10] <sturmflut2> I'm assuming it is a NM problem, but I don't know enough about this stuff.
[12:12] <abeato> sturmflut2, losing the mobile data might happen, but not being able to call anymore is weird
[12:13] <sturmflut2> abeato: I thought so too, yes.
[12:34] <faenil> how can I get notes out of the Notes application?
[12:34] <popey> which notes application :)
[12:43] <faenil> popey: "Notes"
[12:44] <faenil> the one with fancy text editing fucntionality
[12:47] <popey> faenil: hmm, are you storing the text in evernote or just locally?
[12:48] <faenil> locally, and I'd like to avoid setting up evernote, popey :)
[12:48] <popey> we should probably have an export option to get notes out
[12:48] <popey> we don't have an export
[12:48] <faenil> yeah...at least send via email :D
[12:48] <faenil> at the very least :D
[13:10] <kophy> hello there
[13:10] <kophy> i would like to know if i can install ubuntu touch on my samsung galaxy S3
[13:12] <kophy> please i need help
[13:15] <faenil> kophy: it depends if someone has ported ubuntu touch to S3 already :)
[13:15] <faenil> kophy: in this case, it seems someone did the job already:) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/i9300
[13:16] <faenil> but please check the website to know what's workign and what's not
[13:45] <faenil> popey: sed -e 's/<[^>]*>//g' on enml files :)
[13:46] <faenil> if anyone needs to recover text from the notes taken with the ubuntu phone Notes app ("Reminders") ^
[13:47] <popey> nice one!
[14:04] <oSoMoN> greyback_, who would be the best person to review https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/qtubuntu/ubuntuscreen-physicalsize/+merge/273965 ?
[14:04] <greyback_> oSoMoN: me
[14:06] <oSoMoN> greyback_, excellent! it’s a nice and easy one, perfect for a Friday afternoon :)
[14:07] <greyback_> oSoMoN: yeah that should do the trick short-term
[14:08] <oSoMoN> greyback_, what do you mean, will it require a different implementation longer-term ?
[14:10] <greyback_> oSoMoN: more qtubuntu's handling of screens in general needs expanding - it assumes a single screen at the moment
[14:10] <greyback_> and a single resolution
[14:11] <greyback_> nothing for you to worry about currently
[14:16] <oSoMoN> greyback_, ok, thanks for explaining
[15:12] <jnxd> So, anyone considered making a swype-like keyboard for ubuntu touch?
[15:14] <ogra_> there was a thread on the mailing list
[15:22] <jnxd> ogra_: seems like it didn't go anywhere though :(
[16:06] <mariogrip> anyone have an idea what this "modem subsystem failure reason" means?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12723995/
[16:06] <mariogrip> modem subsystem failure reason: FW@wfw_rxagc.c:3284 Assertion (rxlmAllocPtr->wb_used[chainCfg.wb_idx] == 0) fai.
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> mariogrip: played with firmware of any kind?
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> mariogrip: this thread links up to a github bug maybe of any use? https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/issues/19
[16:13] <mariogrip> lotuspsychje: Thanks, i
[16:14] <Guest42341> mariogrip, Softpedia: OnePlus One just got cellular support running for Ubuntu Touch. you did it!
[16:15] <mariogrip> Guest42341: Awesome :D :D
[16:15] <ogra_> if softpedia says so it must be true
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> mariogrip: this guy got same error too: https://www.prolixium.com/blog?id=1013
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> ogra_: lol
[16:15] <mariogrip> xP
[16:16] <Guest42341> mariogrip, link http://news.softpedia.com/news/oneplus-one-with-ubuntu-touch-just-got-cellular-support-494224.shtml
[16:17] <mariogrip> lotuspsychje: that has a different failure reason
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> ok
[16:18] <ogra_> mariogrip, your grid unit px value is wrong :)
[16:19] <mariogrip> Yeah, i know. xP
[16:21] <mariogrip> btw, ogra_ any ideas: modem subsystem failure reason: FW@wfw_rxagc.c:3284 Assertion (rxlmAllocPtr->wb_used[chainCfg.wb_idx] == 0) fai. (this happens at random times at boot, sometimes it gets time to network, sometimes it crashes before i even enter sim pin)
[16:21] <mariogrip> connect to network*
[16:21] <ogra_> nope ... probably awe or abeato could help
[16:22] <mariogrip> awe_  abeato : any ideas: modem subsystem failure reason: FW@wfw_rxagc.c:3284 Assertion (rxlmAllocPtr->wb_used[chainCfg.wb_idx] == 0) fai. (this happens at random times at boot, sometimes it gets time to network, sometimes it crashes before i even enter sim pin)
[16:22] <mariogrip> connect to network*
[16:25] <awe_> mariogrip, have your tried a SIM w/no PIN
[16:25] <mariogrip> yes
[16:25] <awe_> I'd start there for simplicity sake
[16:25] <awe_> same thing?
[16:25] <mariogrip> yes
[16:25] <awe_> where is the error message you pasted above reported?
[16:25] <awe_> syslog?
[16:25] <awe_> radio log?
[16:26] <mariogrip> syslog (kernel)
[16:26] <mariogrip> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12723995/
[16:30] <awe_> mariogrip, without looking at the corresponding kernel code, there's not much I can offer.  It's an assertion that failed, so some condition that should never happen in theory....happened
[16:31] <awe_> bad timing of system startup
[16:31] <awe_> is it usable after it restarts
[16:31] <awe_> or does it keep doing this in a loop?
[16:33] <mariogrip> no, just once. but if i restart ofono and rild it does it again
[16:34] <jnxd> popey: was just seeing that music app video, and wondered, can we have "now playing" as a bottom edge feature?
[16:35] <mariogrip> awe_: I use the CM kernel: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_kernel_oneplus_msm8974 (cm-11.0
[16:35] <ahayzen> jnxd, that was the original plan to have it as bottom edge on the phone.. but it got complicated and we got sidetracked on convergence, we will probably reinvestigate again :-)
[16:36] <mariogrip> with some modification to support aosp (video drivers)
[16:36] <popey> well, it kinda is bottom edge
[16:36] <popey> if you tap the bar at the bottom
[16:38] <jnxd> ahayzen: how about at least some more controls like next and back. it could work by swipe, or replace the name labels.
[16:39] <ahayzen> jnxd, interesting ideas :-)
[16:40] <ahayzen> jnxd, hopefully we'll have a session @ UOS where we can discuss things :-)
[16:40] <jnxd> popey: that's far from even almost there. you promised swipes, not taps :P
[16:40] <popey> a swipe is but a long tap
[16:41] <jnxd> ahayzen: and hopefully by then I know enough of how to do these things to at least give you guys a mock-up
[16:41] <ahayzen> jnxd, there is a branch somewhere where you swipe the bottom 'toolbar' upwards to view the now playing
[16:42] <jnxd> popey: one that moves and is far more fluid.
[16:42] <ahayzen> jnxd, https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/remix-bottom-edge-001 might be it...but that is a *really* old music-app version we need to reinvestigate and update the branch
[16:42] <jnxd> hmm
[16:43] <ahayzen> i wouldn't even attempt to do a pull as it is on the old /remix branch not the new /refactor one :-)
[16:43] <ahayzen> jnxd, after this round of changes i'll try and put it on my list of things to look at again :-)
[16:44] <jnxd> ahayzen: thanks (y). BTW, I'm not on rc-proposed, and was wondering whats the status on being able to stop music when the phone is locked?
[16:45] <ahayzen> jnxd, thats all WIP at the moment :-)
[16:46] <ahayzen> jnxd, so we are working on the support to have the controls in the indicator-sound, assuming thats what you mean ?
[16:47] <jnxd> ahayzen: how about getting the cues from the button on the earphone?
[16:47] <awe_> mariogrip, I honestly can't spare the cycles today as I have some BT work I have to finish up before the long weekend
[16:47] <ahayzen> jnxd, yup that will then be able to work as the backend will then be able to control the music-app without it running
[16:47] <jnxd> ahayzen: well, not quite my idea, but yeah, that'll be pretty good too.
[16:48] <ahayzen> jnxd, as in with it in the background
[16:48] <awe_> mariogrip, I would suggest trying to determine why the assert is there, and what condition it's guarding.
[16:48] <jnxd> ahayzen: but I can't control the music app with the button even when it is running
[16:49] <jnxd> on the foreground, rather
[16:49] <ahayzen> jnxd, yup :-) but when we land this with the new platform support, it should hopefully all start working or at least give the platform the ability to add the support :-)
[16:49] <mariogrip> awe_: okey, thanks
[16:49] <awe_> mariogrip, my bet is that is somehow configuration or fw related.  You're trying to power on the radio, and the kernel driver blows an assert
[17:00] <jnxd> ahayzen: is this regularly updated: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1L3eGhOe-0eEmKtUurthpUEaweFradSFb3t6W-KiIZMU/edit#slide=id.g3e005603e_410 ?
[17:01] <ahayzen> jnxd, not really, usually we get a new one when there are new designs
[17:02] <jnxd> ahayzen: it refers to weeks 40 and 41. Are they of this year or the last?
[17:02] <ahayzen> yup IIRC that was last year, blimey thats gone quick
[17:03] <jnxd> ahayzen: I don't see many changes though
[17:03] <ahayzen> jnxd, its mostly been backend stuff
[17:03] <jnxd> ahayzen: okie
[17:04] <ahayzen> jnxd, we had a design refresh then we refactored all our code as it had become a mess :-)
[17:05] <jnxd> ahayzen: so how different would ota-7 be?
[17:06] <ahayzen> jnxd, hah not really any different we may land the new listitem support shortly after...but meanwhile we are working on convergence and the support for being able to control the app via headphone controls/indicator/etc
[17:06] <ahayzen> they are quite big items as you can probably imagine
[17:08] <jnxd> ahayzen: yup. are you guys trying for music specifically, or will there be framework for any other app to implement it if needed?
[17:09] <ahayzen> jnxd, hopefully any app will be able to use it :-)
[17:11] <jnxd> ahayzen: yet more random thoughts from me, but why don't you let the controls show up on the welcome circle?
[17:11] <tathhu> ^that
[17:11] <ahayzen> jnxd, that would be something design would need to agree and that platform would need to implement, but again won't be possible until this new backend is finished :-)
[17:15] <jnxd> ahayzen: indeed. But IMO it'd be far cooler than the current set-up where we're just stalking our own past selves :D
[17:16] <ahayzen> jnxd, yup agreed, i have discussed it before, but we need to backend support first obviously :-) we'll get there eventually
[18:39] <jnxd> in the bug list, there's a column for high, med, low, and another for incomplete, triaged etc. what do the signs on that rom mean?
[18:42] <tathhu> faenil, just linux things :P
[18:42] <tathhu> CONNECT 31.3.153.5:20014
[18:42] <tathhu> ay lmao
[18:42] <tathhu> ":D"
[18:43] <faenil> what? :D
[18:44] <faenil> jnxd: sorry I don't get your question :/
[18:44] <mariogrip> awe_ & ogra_ : I fixed it kinda, My test sim card was broken.... i tried with a different sim card and it worked just fine....
[18:44] <jnxd> faenil: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app take a look at this
[18:44] <awe_> was the card physically broken?
[18:44] <awe_> or bad data?
[18:45] <awe_> if the latter, it shouldn't cause crashes
[18:45] <faenil> jnxd: if you click on a bug it will tell you more
[18:45] <faenil> jnxd: it will tell what those values mean
[18:45] <jnxd> I meant column, not rom.
[18:45] <tathhu>  16:45      faenil| popey: sed -e 's/<[^>]*>//g' on enml files :)
[18:45] <tathhu> :P
[18:45] <mariogrip> I guess physically broken, should not be bad data.
[18:45] <faenil> tathhu: ah :D
[18:47] <mariogrip> awe_: Tested it in android, does the same ting... well it was only a sim card i use for testing/developing anyway.
[18:48] <ahayzen> jnxd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance for the difference importances
[18:49] <jnxd> ahayzen: faenil: thanks. got the idea
[18:49] <ahayzen> jnxd, and for the statuses https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Bug%20statuses
[18:49] <ahayzen> :-)
[18:51] <faenil> jnxd: cheers
[19:01] <awe_> mariogrip, wow.... if it does the same in android; sounds like a fragile BSP