| tsdgeos | bzoltan_: back sorry i had to leave early yesterday, had to accomodate for me forgetting my bag and come back after 15min of walking on the rain :D | 07:22 |
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| bzoltan_ | tsdgeos: :) No worries | 07:37 |
| bzoltan_ | tsdgeos: we had talked about the topic with other folks. | 07:38 |
| bzoltan_ | tsdgeos: we can recap if you wish. | 07:38 |
| tsdgeos | bzoltan_: that'd be great :) | 07:39 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: merged already? | 08:17 |
| bzoltan_ | tsdgeos: do you want a hangout or mumble? | 08:19 |
| tsdgeos | bzoltan_: no strong preference | 08:19 |
| bzoltan_ | tsdgeos: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/em9sdGFuLmJhbG9naEBjYW5vbmljYWwuY29t.g04rj4pc565qsh6humb980bt1k?authuser=0 | 08:20 |
| tsdgeos | pstolowski: so https://code.launchpad.net/~stolowski/unity8/pkg-version-into-varlib/+merge/272398 means you stop doing a dpkg -l on runtime on the plugin? | 08:59 |
| pstolowski | tsdgeos, yes | 09:02 |
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| mzanetti | greyback_, you don't happen to know of a way where I can figure the connected screens in qml? | 10:07 |
| greyback_ | mzanetti: the multimonitor branch has a qml Screens plugin, which returns a model of the screens | 10:08 |
| mzanetti | greyback_, qtmir? | 10:08 |
| greyback_ | yeah | 10:08 |
| mzanetti | ah... I was reading through the unity8 multimonitor branch | 10:09 |
| mzanetti | thanks | 10:09 |
| mzanetti | perfect, just what I was looking for | 10:10 |
| greyback_ | cool | 10:11 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, "merged already"? | 10:39 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: nothing :D ignore me | 10:39 |
| Saviq | ack | 10:39 |
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| pstolowski | mzanetti, hey, i'm going to land my unity8 change in silo 35 | 13:07 |
| mzanetti | Saviq, you ok with that? ^ | 13:07 |
| mzanetti | pstolowski, saviq is currently landing the things for us, please sync with him on conflicts | 13:08 |
| mzanetti | pstolowski, apart from that, I'm fine with landing it | 13:08 |
| Saviq | pstolowski, you rebuilt today? there was a unity8 landing overnight | 13:08 |
| pstolowski | Saviq, yes, I rebuilt ~2hrs ago | 13:09 |
| Saviq | pstolowski, ok go for it then, leave a note to QA that they're packaging changes alone | 13:09 |
| Saviq | so they don't spend a lifetime testing it | 13:09 |
| pstolowski | Saviq, it's packaging change for unity8 only, in the plugin there is actual code change for this fix | 13:10 |
| Saviq | pstolowski, sure, I mean so they don't spend a lifetime testing the shell | 13:10 |
| pstolowski | Saviq, ah, ok, yeah | 13:11 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, dropped bug #1504538 on you since you're the last that touched the screen grabber :) | 13:17 |
| ubot5` | bug 1504538 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Screenshots are not orientated properly" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1504538 | 13:17 |
| tsdgeos | ltinkl: reportingPage vs reporting_page ?¿ | 13:17 |
| ltinkl | tsdgeos, ye, working on it :) | 13:17 |
| tsdgeos | k | 13:18 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, hmm, unlikely I broke something there... but let's see | 13:19 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, oh no, I'm not saying you broke it | 13:20 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, just you touched it last, so might as well fix the bug :) | 13:20 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, haha, fair enough :) | 13:20 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, not critical of course | 13:20 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, on that note, we should have a test for the fix you made last night | 13:20 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, which one? the plaintext? | 13:21 |
| Saviq | feed some \n\n into a notification and check that lineCount ends up expected | 13:21 |
| Saviq | yup | 13:21 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, ok | 13:21 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, but that, too, is medium prio | 13:21 |
| Saviq | will add a bug so we don't forget | 13:21 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, thx | 13:23 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, noticed we're not rotating in windowed mode, that on purpose? | 13:24 |
| Saviq | or just Not Yet There™? | 13:24 |
| mzanetti | Saviq, not really on purpose, no. more like not implemented yet | 13:24 |
| Saviq | ack | 13:24 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, bug #1504549 | 13:26 |
| ubot5` | bug 1504549 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "No unit test for multiline notifications" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1504549 | 13:26 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, ack | 13:26 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, what's the URL to that silos page? | 13:37 |
| Saviq | dandrader, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/ | 13:38 |
| dandrader | Saviq, thanks | 13:39 |
| mzanetti | dandrader, hey, about this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/noStretchOnResize/+merge/271604 | 13:39 |
| mzanetti | dandrader, just to make sure we're not both waiting on each other... | 13:39 |
| mzanetti | so far my assumption is you'll fix the out-of-sync resizing | 13:40 |
| mzanetti | but we're not going for any outline or something that would require design interaction | 13:40 |
| mzanetti | does that match with your state on it? | 13:40 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, I've a big update in the works in https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/noStretchOnResize-WIP | 13:41 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, gonna push to that MP once it's ready (almost there) | 13:41 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, a much larger change though | 13:41 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, yes, no outline | 13:42 |
| mzanetti | ack | 13:44 |
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| Saviq | ltinkl, mzanetti, https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/platformPlugin/+merge/273974/comments/691480 | 14:04 |
| mzanetti | Saviq, don't think so... in pocketPC mode you still don't want to shut down the phone | 14:05 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, ye a good question :) I tend to think a phone is still a phone, with just some external devices connected | 14:05 |
| mzanetti | well, I guess design could convince me otherwise... | 14:05 |
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| mzanetti | we've discussed this for a while this morning and came to this conclusion | 14:06 |
| mzanetti | Saviq, as indicated by the bug kgunn reported, he seems to expect this particular thing to still behave like a phone too | 14:06 |
| mzanetti | unless design comes up with some more complete story around it, IMO this is the best we can do | 14:07 |
| mzanetti | s/unless/until/ | 14:07 |
| Saviq | ok | 14:07 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, you mention some supported values (like computer, laptop etc.) in the doc | 14:07 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, but then use only one of them (and two others) in the code | 14:08 |
| Saviq | that on purpose? | 14:08 |
| kgunn | mzanetti: i honestly didn't think about it until i just read saviq's comment | 14:08 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, yup, our devices don't get detected, so the property is empty; unlike regular laptops/PCs | 14:08 |
| kgunn | and i do think we'll likely need to change policies there somehow | 14:08 |
| kgunn | e.g. mouse movement should also wakeup screen | 14:09 |
| Saviq | oh yeah, that's for sure | 14:09 |
| mzanetti | kgunn, definitely... silo0 actually did that | 14:09 |
| ltinkl | kgunn, the phone screen? | 14:09 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, both screens | 14:09 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, and phone screen if there's no external one, I'd say so | 14:09 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, why the phone? there's just the notice | 14:09 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, ah right, in case of no monitor attached | 14:10 |
| Saviq | or maybe suspending the phone should disconnect the mouse so they can both go to sleep | 14:10 |
| kgunn | well, there is a potential of a configuration w/o a screen too | 14:10 |
| kgunn | s/screen/external monitor | 14:10 |
| ltinkl | ye | 14:10 |
| * Saviq wonders if BT connection can be established when phone deep-sleep | 14:10 | |
| mzanetti | yes | 14:11 |
| ltinkl | well I still do think that for this very case of power button, it should dim the screen on the phone and bring up the power dialog on a PC | 14:11 |
| Saviq | then kbd/mouse input should wake yeah | 14:11 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, eek, so unexpected | 14:11 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, you need to do one, or the other :) | 14:11 |
| Saviq | not both | 14:11 |
| mzanetti | Saviq, in deep-sleep, it wakes up like twice a minute for a few secs and works through things | 14:11 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, ack | 14:11 |
| mzanetti | there's a chance the mouse gave up in the meantime... but normally it would work | 14:11 |
| Saviq | and if it doesn't straight away you'd just press the power button on the phone | 14:12 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, why unexpected? people are used to their phone power button to handle the screen, not to shutdown; why change it depending on whether we get a mouse connected? | 14:12 |
| Saviq | and if connected to power, it would work because it won't deep sleep | 14:12 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, if it blanks the phone screen (I'm not saying it shouldn't), it shouldn't show the dialog | 14:13 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, because then you press the phone power button to see the clock (when we have the phone working as a phone still despite an external screen) | 14:14 |
| Saviq | and the dialog comes up | 14:14 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, well wait... it doesn't show the dialog :) | 14:14 |
| Saviq | or something | 14:14 |
| mzanetti | yeah, I'm with ltinkl here... even if I dock my phone to a pc, I still expect the power button to act phone-ish, not like the Power button on my laptop | 14:14 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, owait, I misunderstood | 14:14 |
| ltinkl | seems so :) | 14:14 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, I read "show the dialog on the PC" | 14:14 |
| Saviq | as "show the dialog on the external screen" | 14:14 |
| ltinkl | in "PC mode" | 14:14 |
| ltinkl | like a true PC, desktop mode | 14:14 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, you mean, *on a PC* ;) | 14:15 |
| Saviq | not in PC mode | 14:15 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, mzanetti, should it also dim the external screen do you think? | 14:15 |
| mzanetti | right now I'd say yes | 14:15 |
| ltinkl | can't do | 14:15 |
| ltinkl | can we? | 14:15 |
| mzanetti | but again, I'd allow design to convince me otherwise if they come up with a complete story | 14:15 |
| Saviq | sure we can | 14:15 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, just disable the output | 14:16 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, screen suspends | 14:16 |
| ltinkl | how do we dim the external monitor? | 14:16 |
| ltinkl | ah ok | 14:16 |
| Saviq | what your laptop does today | 14:16 |
| Saviq | I think we actually do that with the phone already | 14:16 |
| Saviq | lemme connect it to my monitor | 14:16 |
| * mzanetti waits for the crash :D | 14:16 | |
| ltinkl | well I was thinking "dim == change the brightness" which we can't do obviously | 14:16 |
| ltinkl | (for an external monitor) | 14:17 |
| mzanetti | there are some that allow that too | 14:17 |
| greyback_ | mir doesn't have any knobs for that (yet?) | 14:18 |
| mzanetti | sounds like we found some new trello cards | 14:18 |
| mzanetti | handling display/kbd brightness buttons | 14:18 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, from my MP: "To get access to platform properties like form factor to be able to distinguish whether we run on a PC or on a phone/tablet." | 14:19 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, "on _a_ PC" | 14:19 |
| ltinkl | :) | 14:19 |
| greyback_ | as it's relevant, mir is gaining api to allow shell send hint to clients of the form factor the shell has decided | 14:19 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, I think morphis might be interested in the chassis bit (re: bluetooth device class) | 14:21 |
| morphis | Saviq: for sure | 14:22 |
| Saviq | ok no, we just go *black* | 14:22 |
| mzanetti | heh :D | 14:22 |
| ltinkl | morphis, hi, what do you need it for exactly? | 14:22 |
| Saviq | morphis, https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/platformPlugin/+merge/273974 | 14:22 |
| Saviq | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/hostnamed/ | 14:23 |
| morphis | ltinkl: setting the bluetooth device class | 14:23 |
| ltinkl | morphis, setting? isn't that what the device already provide? | 14:23 |
| morphis | ltinkl: it isn't set in hardware | 14:23 |
| ltinkl | morphis, ah | 14:23 |
| morphis | you have to configure that once you startup the bluetooth stack | 14:23 |
| ltinkl | morphis, is it bluez5 btw? | 14:24 |
| morphis | yes | 14:24 |
| ltinkl | morphis, http://api.kde.org/frameworks-api/frameworks5-apidocs/bluez-qt/html/index.html | 14:24 |
| ltinkl | morphis, there you go | 14:24 |
| morphis | hostnamed is one of the things we're using | 14:24 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, I think you're missing the point | 14:24 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, ye maybe :) | 14:25 |
| morphis | ltinkl: I don't need anything to access bluez5 :) | 14:25 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, morphis maintains the BT stack for us :) | 14:25 |
| ltinkl | ah yes, that was the missing point :) | 14:25 |
| morphis | :) | 14:25 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, he needs somewhere to read the hardware form factor | 14:25 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, to set the device class appropriately | 14:25 |
| morphis | Saviq: the approach from https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/platformPlugin/+merge/273974 will only work for devices which provide the DMI interface | 14:26 |
| Saviq | seems like hostnamed could be it (we'd have to see where it gets the value) | 14:26 |
| Saviq | morphis, oh ok, so that wraps DMI | 14:26 |
| morphis | so not on our Touch devices | 14:26 |
| morphis | yes | 14:26 |
| Saviq | ok so as you were ;D | 14:26 |
| morphis | bluez4 did access DMI directly and now we're using hostnamed for that | 14:26 |
| morphis | Saviq: yeah :) | 14:26 |
| ltinkl | then I'd say have a look at hostnamed code; the docu says: "will be determined automatically from DMI/SMBIOS/ACPI firmware information" | 14:26 |
| Saviq | and we need a fallback for that on android | 14:27 |
| morphis | ltinkl: exactly that is what it does | 14:27 |
| morphis | Saviq: so right now it looks like this: | 14:27 |
| morphis | 1. If hostnamed is present and has the chassis property set, we will take that | 14:27 |
| morphis | 2. If /etc/ubuntu-touch-session.d/android.conf has the FORM_FACTOR variable set, we will use that | 14:27 |
| mzanetti | Saviq, summarized my thoughts https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/platformPlugin/+merge/273974/comments/691489 | 14:28 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, already replied | 14:29 |
| morphis | mzanetti: +1 | 14:29 |
| morphis | ltinkl: you might want to use the FORM_FACTOR variable as fallback too if you need more information on non-pc platforms | 14:30 |
| ltinkl | morphis, does it use the same values? | 14:31 |
| ltinkl | morphis, as hostnamed | 14:31 |
| morphis | ltinkl: right now it only uses smartphone and tablet | 14:31 |
| morphis | but I would vote for using the same values there | 14:31 |
| morphis | everything else doesn't make sense | 14:31 |
| morphis | ltinkl: but respect that this variable isn't there yet | 14:32 |
| morphis | I will introduce it soon for all devices (mako, flo, krillin, arale) | 14:32 |
| ltinkl | morphis, hmm, what I'd like to see is hostnamed uses a config file, and we fill it with our own default values for the known products | 14:32 |
| Saviq | morphis, we only really need to know if we're on a pc now | 14:32 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, yeah, if only hostnamed accepted that upstream ;) | 14:32 |
| ltinkl | morphis, then you wouldn't need a separate config file | 14:32 |
| morphis | ltinkl: we could try to extend systemd, yes :) | 14:32 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, I think it would, those properties are read/write | 14:33 |
| morphis | they are rw? | 14:33 |
| ltinkl | yes | 14:33 |
| morphis | why that? | 14:33 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, we need to think about replacing that whole file with something smarter (see ubuntu-phone ML re: bluetooth device class) | 14:33 |
| ltinkl | man hostnamectl | 14:33 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, when we get there, that will definitely be one option | 14:33 |
| morphis | ltinkl: I see | 14:34 |
| morphis | ltinkl, Saviq: we could also go the way that we setup an upstart job on touch which calls hostnamectl set-chassis <value from FORM_FACTOR> | 14:34 |
| ltinkl | yup, that would be nice | 14:34 |
| ltinkl | (if we can't go with a config file) | 14:35 |
| morphis | ltinkl: still have to extend systemd to acccept "smartphone" | 14:35 |
| ltinkl | I don't see why not, the other systemd services have them too | 14:35 |
| ltinkl | morphis, there is a value for that already, "handset" | 14:35 |
| Saviq | morphis, yeah, it feels like hostnamed would be "downstream" for our whole solution for the android.conf replacement | 14:36 |
| Saviq | morphis, especially as we have more values than fit there | 14:36 |
| Saviq | but sounds like bug #1427106 could be fixed with hostnamed | 14:37 |
| ubot5` | bug 1427106 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[System Settings] There should be a way to set a custom device name" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1427106 | 14:37 |
| morphis | ltinkl: hm | 14:37 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, so for that bug, there is a way | 14:37 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, at the same service, there is PrettyHostname field that can be set | 14:38 |
| morphis | ltinkl: that is doable if we take "handset" for our phones | 14:38 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, which is basically your custom device name | 14:38 |
| morphis | ltinkl, Saviq: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/hostname/hostnamed.c#L101 | 14:38 |
| ltinkl | morphis, haa nice, so /etc/machine-info it is :) | 14:39 |
| morphis | ltinkl: so we have that config file already | 14:39 |
| ltinkl | even better | 14:39 |
| morphis | ltinkl: only the question if our hostnamed in the overlay-ppa already supports it :) | 14:39 |
| ltinkl | morphis, heh, easy to try out :) | 14:40 |
| ltinkl | morphis, this is krillin as of now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12724041/ | 14:41 |
| ltinkl | morphis, let me try to create that config file there | 14:41 |
| morphis | works | 14:41 |
| ltinkl | ok :) | 14:41 |
| ltinkl | morphis, you mean with your custom config? | 14:42 |
| morphis | so now the questions is where does /etc/machine-info come from | 14:42 |
| morphis | ltinkl: just added CHASSIS="handset" to /etc/machine-info and restarted hostnamed | 14:42 |
| morphis | then it turned up in hostnamectl | 14:42 |
| ltinkl | nowhere currently, I guess we need to ship it with the device images | 14:42 |
| morphis | not sure if we are not doing that already | 14:43 |
| ltinkl | no idea | 14:43 |
| morphis | otherwise we can easily do that | 14:43 |
| morphis | ltinkl, Saviq: I will take care to sort that | 14:44 |
| ltinkl | morphis, great, thx | 14:44 |
| morphis | but good that we've found this | 14:45 |
| morphis | then we don't need this FORM_FACTOR one anymore | 14:45 |
| ltinkl | heh, it now supports "watch" as well as the form factor :D | 14:45 |
| * ltinkl missing "brain_implant" | 14:45 | |
| morphis | :D | 14:46 |
| Saviq | morphis, ltinkl, I'd say it gets generated with defaults by hostnamed | 14:52 |
| morphis | possible | 14:53 |
| ltinkl | Saviq, generated? I don't have it | 14:53 |
| morphis | but I doubt that on the phone if the file isn't mounted as read-write | 14:53 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, on phone I do | 14:53 |
| ltinkl | ah | 14:53 |
| morphis | on mako it exists | 14:53 |
| Saviq | but indeed on laptop I don't | 14:53 |
| ltinkl | so which package does it come from? | 14:54 |
| ltinkl | if any | 14:54 |
| Saviq | ooh that's where PRETTY_HOSTNAME is stored | 14:54 |
| Saviq | ltinkl, must come from device tarball | 14:54 |
| ltinkl | ok, so we can also ship the form factor thingy | 14:54 |
| morphis | right | 14:54 |
| ltinkl | on PC it's probably only detected at runtime | 14:55 |
| ltinkl | since a PC has a BIOS | 14:55 |
| tsdgeos | mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/use_sdk12/+merge/273182/comments/691502 | 14:57 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos, mhm, fair enough | 14:58 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos, but hmm... if we're going to move to 1.3 for ota8, we probably should get those fixed asap | 15:11 |
| tsdgeos | one is merged into staging already | 15:12 |
| tsdgeos | the other one let me check | 15:12 |
| * tsdgeos opens | 15:12 | |
| tsdgeos | https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/abstractbutton_longpress/+merge/272926 hasn't landed yet | 15:14 |
| tsdgeos | or it has | 15:15 |
| tsdgeos | it has | 15:15 |
| tsdgeos | let me retriiger CI then | 15:15 |
| tsdgeos | done | 15:18 |
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| ubot5` | bug 987060 in Unity HUD "massive memory leak in unity-panel-service and hud-service when invoking the hud on Firefox profiles with large amounts of bookmarks LTS 12.04 14.04" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/987060 | 16:13 |
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